Re: [MBZ] 119 timing chain issues, update

2009-01-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well I got it back, its pretty beat up. Its the same color (black) as the one with the broken valve cover. Both the fenders are shot, the interior is shot, dont know what all works and what doesnt yet. No key, no title, front bumper is also fubar. The tumbler is out of the ignition so it

Re: [MBZ] 119 timing chain issues, update

2009-01-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well its always possible to get a clear title, thats no problem. Mitch Haley wrote: Kevin Kraly wrote: I guess you have a TOUGH decision to make. which one would be the best driver? Do you swap parts onto the one with the good engine, or swap engines? At least the latter would allow you to

Re: [MBZ] 119 timing chain issues, update

2009-01-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Kevin Kraly wrote: I guess you have a TOUGH decision to make. which one would be the best driver? Do you swap parts onto the one with the good engine, or swap engines? At least the latter would allow you to change the necessary parts with the engine out of the car. Not so tough, you fix

Re: [MBZ] 119 timing chain issues, update

2009-01-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Frederick wrote: but a river out of the crankshaft seal he just replaced. Seal got turned inside out when he pushed it over the crank end? I can't imagine a grooved crank surface causing a river even if it had 300,000 miles on the old seal, and those are the only two causes that come to

Re: [MBZ] 119 timing chain issues, update

2009-01-12 Thread Peter Frederick
Can't turn it inside out, the boss comes off and you push it into the seal going back in. I can't wait to hear the rest of the story. I'm hoping he doesn't have to drop and re-seal the pan! Peter On Jan 12, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: but a river out

Re: [MBZ] 119 timing chain issues, update

2009-01-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Frederick wrote: Can't turn it inside out, the boss comes off and you push it into the seal going back in. D'uh! Seal bears on harmonic balancer/pulley hub, not crank nose, right? You can tell I haven't worked on one of these, can't you? Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] 119 timing chain issues, update

2009-01-12 Thread Peter Frederick
Yup. Like Hans says, what was wrong with using a wear ring that was easy to replace? I guess somebody thought the hub would last long enough -- so now when you have to replace it the second time (replacement seals are offset to the rear 5 mm), you get to replace a $300 hub instead of a

Re: [MBZ] 119 timing chain issues, update

2009-01-11 Thread Wonko the Sane
So much for the buying freeze. On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Well, Chris mccann just left after coming down from KC to pick up that SDL tranny off me. I then got on craigslist and what do I see listed in the KC area but a 93 500SEL. No title, no

Re: [MBZ] 119 timing chain issues, update

2009-01-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, thats blown. Since the buying freeze has happened, I have bought about 3 cars. Wonko the Sane wrote: So much for the buying freeze. On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Well, Chris mccann just left after coming down from KC to pick up that SDL

Re: [MBZ] 119 timing chain issues, update

2009-01-11 Thread Wilton Strickland
What!!?? $750 for a car? 'Thought your limit was $500. Good luck with it. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 7:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] 119

Re: [MBZ] 119 timing chain issues, update

2009-01-11 Thread E M
Just think of all the extra parts you'll get for $750. You'll keep your 140 going for ages, and if something goes awol, just pull the part you need off your back up. ;-) Ed 300E 2009/1/11 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Well, Chris mccann just left after coming down from KC to pick up

Re: [MBZ] 119 timing chain issues, update

2009-01-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep, its great. I have always had parts cars to backup all my other cars, but never had a 140 parts car. Knowing my luck though it will turn out to actually be too nice to part out. E M wrote: Just think of all the extra parts you'll get for $750. You'll keep your 140 going for ages, and

Re: [MBZ] 119 timing chain issues, update

2009-01-11 Thread Peter Frederick
Timing chain issues! Visited my buddy Hans (the supplier of choice for all things Mercedes, along with tool lending and expert advice!) and he was working (still) on the 560 that came in for a water pump replacement before Xmas. Because of family stuff, it sat for a few days before he

Re: [MBZ] 119 timing chain issues, update

2009-01-11 Thread Kevin Kraly
I guess you have a TOUGH decision to make. which one would be the best driver? Do you swap parts onto the one with the good engine, or swap engines? At least the latter would allow you to change the necessary parts with the engine out of the car. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi,