Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-23 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-23 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
HA! Could be it was all that he could get... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Ebay has MTC brand monovalves for between $17 and $55. Are these Chinese? MANUFACTURERPART NUMBERCONDITIONMTC 000-835-06-44 BRAND NEW OTHER PART NUMBERS: 1-147-213-007 / 1147213007 /0008350644 / 1-147-213-007 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-23 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
G: I've had one of Garys in the 300D for about 3 years; still works well. I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Larry, when you say controller you mean the push button module, right? BTW, thanks for the troubleshooting tip - I will defintely try this and unplug the monovalve assembly over the weekend. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:29 AM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-23 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Yes don't touch them. Buy OE or suffer. You risk blowing your engine. Ask Jon. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ebay has MTC brand monovalves for between $17 and $55. Are these Chinese? MANUFACTURERPART

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-23 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The real thing is over $100, what do you think? I'll make it real simple, cheap parts on eBay will always be a gamble, how much of a gambler are you? -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-23 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Larry, when you say controller you mean the push button module, right? On that system, the actual controller is separate from the pushbutton module. Every PBU I've had has had problems, but I've never had a controller go bad. The PBU just selects functions, and gates the signals for the mode

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would start with looking at the monovalve. As for the disparity in prices, I would suspect that the URO folks are somehow involved. A URO rep surfaced a while ago over at BenzWorld and he tried to defend their products. Needless to say he went quiet rather quickly as people took him to

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-22 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
That system has two primary ills: bad solder joints in the pushbutton array, and a split monovalve insert. The former makes it insane, and unable to do what it should, and the latter just plain prevents heat. The tertiary ill is a rotted foam hose going to the cabin air temperature sensor,

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
A piece of 1/2 foam pipe insulation works wonders as a replacement for the original rotted part. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That system has two primary ills: bad solder joints in the pushbutton array, and a

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Does it blow warmer when sitting at idle? Thats a sure sign of monovalve. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 1:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You didn't answer the question and you responded only to me although from your response it would appear you meant to respond to everybody. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yeah, GMail in conversation mode aggregates all responses, although some are private. I still am getting used to this. Also, your questions was in tiny type that I could barely read. Anyway, at idle there doesn't appear to be much difference in heat. My tech is betting it's the monovalve, with

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-22 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Hi Andrew, Go with a new OE mono-valve. I had the same issue and bought 2 chinese mono-valves from Rusty before crying uncle. The OE ($146 IIRC) has worked perfectly since it was installed almost 3 winters ago. The cheap Chinese ones would get a little tear in the rubber diaphragm allowing

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-22 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎  Original Message   From: Jon Agne via Mercedes Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:16 PM To: Andrew Strasfogel; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Jon Agne Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I did both, and my wife has no

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-22 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: Anyway, at idle there doesn't appear to be much difference in heat. My tech is betting it's the monovalve, with the ACC module a close second. I have a spare ACC module so will test this first before purchasing a monovalve. I did notice that the faster I drove and the

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!

2014-12-22 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via