Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer

2014-09-25 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Craig via Mercedes wrote: Anthropomorphic Global Warming is a bogus scare intended to take from some people and give to others. Those scientists who support it are on the lucrative take. Better watch it or Bobby Kennedy will sic a SWAT team on you:

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2014-09-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
While we're at it, did you hear that hogwash about the earth not being flat? On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig via Mercedes wrote: Anthropomorphic Global Warming is a bogus scare intended to take from some people and give to

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2014-09-25 Thread clay via Mercedes
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-81450930/ There is no man made warming associated with Pacific Coast warming trends. clay On Sep 24, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:43:28 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan

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2014-09-25 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 16:42:09 -0700 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-81450930/ There is no man made warming associated with Pacific Coast warming trends. With Wildfires Increasing, How Should We Fund Efforts to Stop Them?, by Joseph

Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer

2014-09-24 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
What does the shop say about the leak seal stuff? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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2014-09-24 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Also remember that if the evaporator leak is small, you can probably drive for years by simply topping up the charge each spring. Don't forget to also add an ounce or two of oil occasionally, as some of that leaks out with the refrigerant. Max Dillon, Charleston SC

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2014-09-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
They didn't say how bad the evaporator leak is, however, the system was working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost most (not all) of the refrigerant over the last week. I have to suspect that's the evaporator leak, as the hose wouldn't suddenly start leaking - they said it was just

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2014-09-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Trust me it is not the way to go unless you are dumping the car Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: They didn't say how bad the evaporator leak is, however, the system was working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost

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2014-09-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, I would tend to agree, so now I need to really assess how much longer I want to keep it and whether or not it's worth repairing. Doesn't make a lot of sense to put $3400 into a $3000 car. I see that evaporators are relatively cheap, but I'm really concerned about doing the job and the

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2014-09-24 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Evaporator replacement: It's just time and patience. Two people on this list who I'll bet have more physical limitations than you have done the job. I'm going to be tackling that job next year or the next, just need to make the time... Replace the hose, have them evaluate the size of the leak

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2014-09-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The evap on my 97 e300 is leaking. It has been sitting for a year till I get time to pull the dash and replace it. It is a keeper so I am not going the stop leak route Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Evaporator

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2014-09-24 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Understand this is a 140? Yep, real bummer. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:51 AM Subject: [MBZ] AC Bummer Just got the word from the shop.

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2014-09-24 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
, 2014 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer They didn't say how bad the evaporator leak is, however, the system was working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost most (not all) of the refrigerant over the last week. I have to suspect that's the evaporator leak, as the hose wouldn't suddenly

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2014-09-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
At this point I think I may replace the hose then see how well it will hold a vacuum at that point. I can better gauge the size of the leak at that point. Dan On Sep 24, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Evaporator replacement: It's just time and

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2014-09-24 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Good move. Wilt - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer At this point I think I may replace the hose then see how well it will hold

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2014-09-24 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I did about half of this job troubleshooting my 126 HVAC issues, which I eventually solved with string and shoe goo. Mu main lessons-learned are (1) devise a system to identify and store the many different kinds of clips and fasteners and (2) take a lot of cell phone or digital photos along the

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2014-09-24 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
when I had my evaporator leak I was told the leak sealer stuff usually worked if the leak only needed refilling at the most_once _a year - any quicker and the leak was likely too large to fix with the sealer stuff. Don't be overwhelmed at the prospect of replacing the evap - it's just a

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2014-09-24 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
So you end up with $6400 in a car you could sell for $3000. How much will you drive it after you fix it? The real calculation is miles per dollar, not how many dollars in a car worth X dollars, unless you are trying to sell/trade cars rather than drive them. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Dan

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2014-09-24 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 24/09/2014 4:25 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: So you end up with $6400 in a car you could sell for $3000. How much will you drive it after you fix it? The real calculation is miles per dollar, not how many dollars in a car worth X dollars, unless you are trying to sell/trade cars rather than

Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer

2014-09-24 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: At this point I think I may replace the hose then see how well it will hold a vacuum at that point. I can better gauge the size of the leak at that point. You might want to have a micron gauge like they use in HVAC work. Mitch.

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2014-09-24 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Dan, Try the stop leak.  If that doesn't work, then cut an access hole in the dash, replace the evap, then hinge the piece you cut out and the next time you have a problem you'll have access to the dash.  I can't believe any engineer would require you to remove a dash to work on

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2014-09-24 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Sawzall, angle grinder, welder. What other tools are needed? --R On 9/24/14 6:21 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote: Dan, Try the stop leak. If that doesn't work, then cut an access hole in the dash, replace the evap, then hinge the piece you cut out and the next time you have a

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2014-09-24 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Yep. Double one if it, as you said, --looks neat. Wilton - Original Message - From: rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer Dan, Try the stop leak. If that doesn't work

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2014-09-24 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
years. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer Sawzall, angle grinder, welder. What other tools are needed? --R On 9/24/14 6:21 PM, rogerhga

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2014-09-24 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dan wrote: ...the system was working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost most ... of the refrigerant over the last week. Murderer!! We don't like murderers here!! Take it to banned!! ...what with climate change every other day, etc... ...and climate change at United Nations... You are

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2014-09-24 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:43:28 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan wrote: ...the system was working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost most ... of the refrigerant over the last week. Murderer!! We don't like murderers here!! Take it to banned!! ...what