Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-13 Thread Larry T
When mine failed I had to get it back on the road and bought one from the local dealer - it was bad too! They gave me another one but it was a PITA Mine started going bad as I noticed the headlights would dim for 30 seconds or so before they came back - I figured it was the glow plugs or

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-11 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote: did you apologize to robert bosch yet for accusing him of being the new george lucas? Is that the cue for somebody to post a youtube of the Star Wars theme song? Methinks you meant to say Joseph Lucas, Prince of Darkness. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-11 Thread Larry T
I usually need multiple alternators until I get smart enough to replace the battery. -Curt Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 21:11:51 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D Message-ID: CAKOy

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-11 Thread Larry T
enough to replace the battery. -Curt Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 21:11:51 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D Message-ID: CAKOy= fuho3qrqcdus8jkmlqfoghnwurjxwr1y9fyrka2in0...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-11 Thread MG
You know I think I still have a can of that around somewhere from about 71 or 72. Wonder if it goes bad over time? Manfred Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:07:18 -0400 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net they used to sell Lucas Smoke at some creative LBC shops/stores Larry

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-11 Thread Rich Thomas
You gotta check to make sure the relay is unrelaying after the appointed operational time. This is what happened on the SD a coupla weeks ago with a fairly new relay too. A vexing problem, the shop replaced the alt pack but it still was killing the battery. New relay no problemo now. --R

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-11 Thread Peter Frederick
that relay can also have a broken contact the keeps it on even when not energized or shorts between battery and the coil, turning it on when it is NOT activated by the key. Happened in my Volvo, loose bit causing trouble. Peter ___

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
replaced the battery I usually need multiple alternators until I get smart enough to replace the battery. -Curt Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 21:11:51 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D Message-ID:     CAKOy

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Tim Crone
This thing wouldn't start today in the rain after I had been in the dentist chair for 90 minutes. AAA jumped me, drove straight to O'Reilly's to get a quick and dirty alternator check. Voltage check with engine running, 11.0 volts. Sowhich is more that likely the culprit...

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You probably just need to replace the alternator at this point Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: This thing wouldn't start today in the rain after I had been in the dentist chair for 90 minutes. AAA jumped me, drove straight to

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
did he figure out his general electrical problems yet? On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: You probably just need to replace the alternator at this point Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: This

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Bob Rentfro
: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D Message-ID: CAKOy=fuho3qrqcdus8jkmlqfoghnwurjxwr1y9fyrka2in0...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This thing wouldn't start today in the rain after I had been in the dentist chair for 90 minutes. AAA jumped me, drove straight

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Michael Canfield
So is the Advance Auto alternator still under warranty? Mike On Sep 10, 2013 10:27 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: This thing wouldn't start today in the rain after I had been in the dentist chair for 90 minutes. AAA jumped me, drove straight to O'Reilly's to get a quick and

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Michael Canfield
2013 21:11:51 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D Message-ID: CAKOy= fuho3qrqcdus8jkmlqfoghnwurjxwr1y9fyrka2in0...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Gary Hurst
to replace the battery. -Curt Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 21:11:51 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D Message-ID: CAKOy= fuho3qrqcdus8jkmlqfoghnwurjxwr1y9fyrka2in0

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble, Bob. I'm still playing with the alternator? regulator? battery? problem in my '83 300D because I want to figure out why I, and many other people, are having fairly frequent problems. I've set up a bench test with a new shop battery (that's

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Larry T
Tim, Cannot imagine how frustrated you must be!! Did you test the Glow Plug Relay? the test procedures are in the WSM -- I can look it up and send it to you if you'd like -- with all the electrical draw you have it sure sounds like the GPR. I suggest you also use a analog Volt Meter to

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Bob Rentfro
List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D Message-ID: CAKOy= fuho3qrqcdus8jkmlqfoghnwurjxwr1y9fyrka2in0...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This thing wouldn't start today in the rain after I had been

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Scott Ritchey
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:53 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D I don't understand why MB didn't put volt meters in their cars... I'll presume the light isn't on and say you need an alternator. If the light was on maybe a regulator would get it. I've NEVER gotten away

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
. -Curt Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 21:11:51 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D Message-ID: CAKOy=fuho3qrqcdus8jkmlqfoghnwurjxwr1y9fyrka2in0...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Dan Penoff
Buy a refractometer to check specific gravity. Far more accurate and much less messy. And you can use it to check coolant as well. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble, Bob. I'm still

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
Thanks. I'll look into those. Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Buy a refractometer to check specific gravity. Far more accurate and much less messy. And you can use it to check coolant as well. Dan On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Sorry to hear

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-09 Thread Larry T
If nothing else works, a short battery cable in black or red are available cheap from FLAPS Good luck - LarryT On 9/6/2013 11:10 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: So I go out to my car at the end of my 12 hour day and pop the hood. All looks fine. I touch the negative cable I made and installed a

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-09 Thread Bob Rentfro
This thing wouldn't start today in the rain after I had been in the dentist chair for 90 minutes. AAA jumped me, drove straight to O'Reilly's to get a quick and dirty alternator check. Voltage check with engine running, 11.0 volts. Sowhich is more that likely the culprit... alternator

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Bob Rentfro wrote: So I go out to my car at the end of my 12 hour day and pop the hood. All looks fine. I touch the negative cable I made and installed a week ago and it comes apart at the terminal connection. That explains everything. I guess my 2 ought crimping skills are lacking. Should

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-06 Thread Bob Rentfro
So I go out to my car at the end of my 12 hour day and pop the hood. All looks fine. I touch the negative cable I made and installed a week ago and it comes apart at the terminal connection. That explains everything. I guess my 2 ought crimping skills are lacking. Should have soldered it as

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-05 Thread Jim Cathey
I have battled this pig electrically from the day I bought it. New cabling, new voltage regulator, several new starters. VR/brush pack is not the only thing that can be wrong with an alternator. Have you tried a different one? -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-05 Thread WILTON
I sense a welling of disappointment; I know the feeling. I wish you well. Wilt - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:35 AM Subject: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D Pulling into the

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-05 Thread Jim Cathey
I have battled this pig electrically from the day I bought it. That car doesn't even need electricity to run. You could be having this problem with _any_ car, from any maker, and most of them would strand you as an extra bonus round. A lot to be said for finding/fixing this problem. I think

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-05 Thread Scott Ritchey
I had a 79 TD with electrical problems until I fixed them. I initially (it turned out) the alternator had a bad diode in the rectifier assembly that was sucking about 2 amps from the batt. After two tries replacing just the rectifier assembly with one bought locally (supposed to be the right

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-05 Thread Dan Penoff
' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D I had a 79 TD with electrical problems until I fixed them. I initially (it turned out) the alternator had a bad diode in the rectifier assembly that was sucking about 2 amps from the batt

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-05 Thread Dan Penoff
Almost sounds like you were running strictly on battery with no charging from the alternator. Were you able to start it? Dan On Sep 5, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Pulling into the parking lot this morning I realized I could not see because my headlights were

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-05 Thread WILTON
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D I had a 79 TD with electrical problems until I fixed them. I initially (it turned out) the alternator had a bad diode in the rectifier assembly that was sucking about 2 amps

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-05 Thread Curt Raymond
-0400 From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D Message-ID: BEBDEFF3E5194A2CA20EA5926C5C0056@ScottPC Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii I had a 79 TD with electrical problems until I fixed them.  I

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-05 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Maybe this was already mentioned... but... my random guess as to why you're having so many problems with an otherwise simple car: The glow plug relay is stuck on when driving. Jaime On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Pulling into the parking lot this

Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D

2013-09-05 Thread Peter Frederick
A stuck (or in my case, broken and shorted) glow plug relay will indeed run the battery flat with a good alternator, especially at night when you have the headlights on. Less power produced by the alternator than is getting used, so the battery goes flat. Happened to me on a trip, and