Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-15 Thread redghost
I love REPC. Addictive place that filled my home with more computers than a soul can use. Had to junk to when I got Gump. No diesel power computers there On Sunday, March 12, 2006, at 06:25 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: Last time I needed a new

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:38:35 -0500 (EST) John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: got it for $1.07 including tax because the guy wanted $200 for shipping and I could pick it up instead! Was it an eBay special, with exorbitant shipping to miss the fees? Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-14 Thread John W. Reames III
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Craig McCluskey wrote: Was it an eBay special, with exorbitant shipping to miss the fees? Maybe it was but I'm not so sure.. UPS is exorbitant (I went to UPS, did not use the ebay tool) when the weight exceeds 120 lbs Since it is 3000VA 208 in/out with 400VA of 120, it

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-14 Thread OK Don
Wow! It takes a LOT to make that 6000 grunt! Of coarse, there are the plastic wheels - maybe they were grunting. We're just now decommissioning several 6000s that were full of disks and running exchange. Real work horses that just kept on going. and I swear the proliant (6000-old iron but it

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-13 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:07:21 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your SmartUPS is the rack-mount model where the batteries slide in single-file, I recommend running the PowerChute monitoring software and replacing the pack at the first sign that the internal temperature has

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-13 Thread OK Don
Crap - mine is a rack mount - APC 2200 with six or eight batteries that slide into the case - thigh fit when they're not damaged. My batteries aren't overheating yet, but they don't provide near the run time I thought they might. I'll have to check them soon. I have it wired (with plugs) between

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-13 Thread David Brodbeck
OK Don wrote: Crap - mine is a rack mount - APC 2200 with six or eight batteries that slide into the case - thigh fit when they're not damaged. Yeah, that's a design flaw in most APC UPSs, including a lot of the one- and two-battery desktop ones. The batteries tend to swell when they fail,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-13 Thread David Brodbeck
Mitch Haley wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: Last time I needed a new UPS, I went to RePC and bought two APCs off the as is shelf for $2 each. Is that in Michigan? Nope. I'm living in Washington, now. RePC has two outlets, one in Seattle and one in Tukwila.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-13 Thread Jim Cathey
Crap - mine is a rack mount - APC 2200 with six or eight batteries that slide into the case - thigh fit when they're not damaged. My batteries aren't overheating yet, but they don't provide near the run time I thought they might. I'll have to check them soon. I think my 2000 is rated at

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-13 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006, OK Don wrote: Crap - mine is a rack mount - APC 2200 with six or eight batteries that slide into the case - thigh fit when they're not damaged. My batteries aren't overheating yet, but they don't provide near the run time I thought they might. I'll have to check them soon.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-12 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 11, 2006, at 6:27 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Nothing stops lightning, but the surge induced by nearby strikes can possibly be blocked by a (good) surge protector. Close enough, though, and it either fries the stuff directly, or induces enough EMF in the cables and such to do harm. _All_

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-12 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:00:54 -0500 John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 11, 2006, at 6:27 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Nothing stops lightning, but the surge induced by nearby strikes can possibly be blocked by a (good) surge protector. Close enough, though, and it either fries the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-12 Thread Jim Cathey
They do stand behind their products, though. When I was in Texas, I bought off eBay an older model 2 kVA UPS made by APC that could have external batteries connected to it. I planned on connecting a large set of batteries and using it as a backup source for our house. Mine (APC Smart-UPS 2000)

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-12 Thread Mitch Haley
David Brodbeck wrote: Last time I needed a new UPS, I went to RePC and bought two APCs off the as is shelf for $2 each. Is that in Michigan?

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-12 Thread Jim Cathey
If your SmartUPS is the rack-mount model where the batteries slide in single-file, I recommend running the PowerChute monitoring software and replacing the pack at the first sign that the internal temperature has gotten higher than usual. No, it's the tower job. The batteries are loose in the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection [was: Re: Wulf is back! AND Stanadyne in line fuel heater (free)]

2006-03-11 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 11, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: John, What do you use for lightning protection? You should at least have power and phone/DSL/cable surge protection. A small UPS would be great, too. I have several of the APC (American Power Conversion) products which are working

Re: [MBZ] OT: Electronic surge protection

2006-03-11 Thread Jim Cathey
I don't have a UPS but everything had surge protectors. I think lightning was a little more than what they were designed for. Nothing stops lightning, but the surge induced by nearby strikes can possibly be blocked by a (good) surge protector. Close enough, though, and it either fries