Re: [MBZ] OT: Nothing more expensive than a cheap...

2021-01-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The capacitor problem is/was a _vendor_ issue. The caps themselves should have lasted much, much longer than they did. In particular, the ones Apple was getting would leak, and the juices would erode the fine traces of that era away, resulting in permanent death. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT: Nothing more expensive than a cheap...

2021-01-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I never got rid of a computer. The only old one I have that's likely of any interest is the NeXT cube, with printer. Maybe the Grid Compass with the orange plasma display... (The only DOS machine I ever owned, and only because of the display. Bought out of the thrift stream, cheap.) Still

Re: [MBZ] OT: Nothing more expensive than a cheap...

2021-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2021-01-05 19:57, Curt Raymond wrote: Tandy 1000 was apparently the rocketship for the era. I thought it had an 8086 or 8088 at 4.77MHz just like IBM, but I could be wrong. For all I know it might have had a V20 or V30. My Zenith MiniSport (RIP) has a V20, IIRC at 8MHz. Wiki is silent

Re: [MBZ] OT: Nothing more expensive than a cheap...

2021-01-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Its probably worth more now than what you paid for it. Unfortunately the capacitors on those older Macs are known to fail. Standard wisdom is to recap any new-to-you machine since the caps will leak and cause damage.On the one hand its kind of rotten that it happens, on the other hand 30 years

Re: [MBZ] OT: Nothing more expensive than a cheap...

2021-01-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The C64 lived a surprisingly long life. I watched a video yesterday about a CPU upgrade that was made in '96... Tandy 1000 was apparently the rocketship for the era. I actually missed out on the early DOS machines, my Atari 130XE was long in the tooth when I got it and in school we had Macs. I

Re: [MBZ] OT: Nothing more expensive than a cheap...

2021-01-05 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The only old computer of any interest I have is a Mac II I got from my next door neighbor when the company he worked for surplused out all the Mac equpment -- probably around 1995 or so. Got it for something like $25 -- not bad for a computer that cost $10,000 new minus monitor. Pretty spiff

Re: [MBZ] OT: Nothing more expensive than a cheap...

2021-01-05 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I sent my first computer, a TI-99/4a, to e-waste about five years ago. Had the expansion box and a dozen or so games. Could have sold it on eBay but didn't want to deal with packing and shipping it and the chance of getting scammed, so just tossed it. Allan Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes: >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Nothing more expensive than a cheap...

2021-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
My dad's first computer (1981 or 1982) was a C64. I think he gave it away, but I can ask mom about it. Had the tape drive, but that might have been about the extent of the accessories. He quickly set it aside for a Tandy 1000 with hard drive and letter quality Epson printer.