Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Aww geez, I was trying to make a funny. Say "weird music and sinful dancing" in a funny voice, that's what I was thinking when I wrote it... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 15/12/2016 3:45 PM, Curt

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 15/12/2016 3:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: What's wrong with 10.11? I've been using it for months and other than an incompatibility with the version of Media Composer I had its been just as good as 10.8 on my early 2013 MacBook Pro... Your "everything was better in the old days"

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
What's wrong with 10.11? I've been using it for months and other than an incompatibility with the version of Media Composer I had its been just as good as 10.8 on my early 2013 MacBook Pro... Your "everything was better in the old days" arguments are as old as the hills. Do you want to complain

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
A series of bad experiences with various flavors. Difficulty finding software to do what I need. As Jim said, the only problem isa web browser on mac. For winders, security and browsers are still the problems. orifice and email works on old versions of each. fmiser via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-15 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Curley wrote: OS 10.11 and winders 10 SUCK worse than 10.6 and XP. El crap is much worse than 10.6. Winders Wisss-ta was a disaster, 7 offered no improvement, 8 was a disaster, and 10 offers no improvement And so what is keeping you from abandoning the bunch and using *nix? Linux is

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Were it not for the browser problem, I'd still be using my Pismo running 10.3.9! These MacPro 1,1 machines would be very nice on 10.6, I'd use that happily. But for the browsers. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
OS 10.11 and winders 10 SUCK worse than 10.6 and XP.XP with the "classic" interface was the peak of M$ os, and I have little experience with OS 10 other than 10.6 and 10.11, but 10.6 is the peak of Apfel Mac OS in my experience. I know prior versions had shortcomings, and later had

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-14 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Until and unless someone comes up with non-silicon wafer based semiconductor based transistors, we are at the end of the road. No more speed, no more cores, just about the only thing that will change is the details of the designs and software. Apple is doing the one thing I've always

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That doesn't bother me, as sagging sales will determine if they need to put the magsafe and/or earphone jacks back on or not. (BTW, I agree with you; they are worse than the old products) What burns me is that in 5 yrs you will HAVE to do with out them because they will turn your computer

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Look at the new phone with no headphone port. That's a poor decision. The new laptop doesn't have a magsafe power supply either. The new Apple hardware is all worse than that which it replaces. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Meade Dillon via

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
RIP Jobs? I wonder if he would have tolerated this. Really sounds like the bean counters have won control over the engineers. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > The patches work, for now, but once

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
We're running two Mac Pro 1,1 machines using El Capitan. Some work was required, primarily getting a couple of 4870 video cards for them. Also, the patch gave them both the same ID that Time Machine uses as a key, so only one of them could be backed up. (I have a patched EFI patch for the

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-14 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
If it's any consolation, there is a large community of Mac users who have successfully circumvented the issues with EFI BIOS on older models (CD, C2D) and are running current operating systems successfully. I know I've done it, and it was easy and simple to do. It extended the life of my Mac

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > it seems to me that the roles have reversed, and rather than having 20 yr > old macs working and a 2 or 3 yr old windoze boz won't run the new windoze; > now we have 10 or 15 yr old windoze boxes running and 5 yr old macs dead. Sure seems that way. It's pretty infuriating. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: new Computers

2016-12-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>‎Its enough to make someone turn to >penguins. >+1 Rick  Sent from an outdated smartphone with more computing power than the original space shuttle‎ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or