The problem I had in that regard was finding a set that was both decent off
road AND was not load range C. Lots of 1/2 ton sport utilities use that tire
size.
My 05 dodge has load range E BFG All terrain KOs in that size, but even though
they have the snowflake rating, they're a bit hard for a
Ok Don wrote: Since we're in line to get the ice/snow storm (only 30% chance
though), I went to put the snow tires that came with the car from Donald Snook
on this afternoon. When I let the first tire down, a LOT of 1 to 2 cracks
appeared on the sidewall. Crap - dry rotted tire. Off it came,
Nokian Hakkapeliitta or Bridgestone Blizzak's are the best out there that I
know of. Next would be the Cooper Weathermaster or Kelly Wintermark. If price
isn't the issue go with the Nokian's...they are awesome snow tires.
Mike
-Original Message-
Date: Tuesday, December 09, 2008
Sheesh, thats like an oil thread question.
I've got some nice Coopers on my 240D (courtesy Dwight). My 190D has some
cheapies from Tire Warehouse. Both are far better in the snow than any all
seasons I've had.
I've heard really good things about Blizzaks but can't give any substantive
data.
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snow tires
Sheesh, thats like an oil thread question.
I've got some nice Coopers on my 240D (courtesy Dwight). My 190D has some
cheapies from Tire Warehouse. Both are
far better in the snow than any all seasons I've had.
I've heard really good things about Blizzaks but can't
Of course the tire places tell you to buy 4 snow tires -- I recall my
Dad always just put them on the drive (rear) wheels. I can see that
putting them on the fronts could help with stopping/steering, but not
really with getting under way or climbing hills.
Allan
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Allan Streib wrote:
Of course the tire places tell you to buy 4 snow tires -- I recall my
Dad always just put them on the drive (rear) wheels. I can see that
putting them on the fronts could help with stopping/steering, but not
really with getting under way or climbing hills.
You stop and
that sad part is that i look back with nostalgia at the mid 80s chryslers
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Allan Streib wrote:
Of course the tire places tell you to buy 4 snow tires -- I recall my
Dad always just put them on the drive (rear) wheels. I can
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snow tires
that sad part is that i look back with nostalgia at the mid 80s chryslers
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Allan Streib wrote:
Of course the tire places tell you to buy 4 snow tires -- I recall my
Dad always just put them
In a message dated 11/29/2006 5:26:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Four Blizzaks on my 83 300D are super on ice or snow. I used to put 200 lbs
of roofing shingles in my trunk for the winter, but with the Blizzaks and no
extra weight it is
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:24:31 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 11/29/2006 5:26:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Four Blizzaks on my 83 300D are super on ice or snow. I used to put
200 lbs of roofing shingles in my
As I've told you before - you need to find another indie --
I sure wish I had put those snow tires on last night or this morning
-- freezing rain is pouring down right now -- and I just got home.
I asked him if he had any
snow tires. He told me they would not help on my car. He said that
Find a new mechanic.
Donald Snook wrote:
We are having our first snow/ice/freezing rain of the season here in
America's Heartland (Kansas) and I am planning to get snow tires. On my
most recent prior Mercedes, the snow tires came with the car mounted on
a second set of wheels (2 tires not
that means its headed this way. Its not freezing raining yet, but its
raining pretty good. Im headed to St Louis this weekend. Hope all the
crap has passed on by there by then.
OK Don wrote:
As I've told you before - you need to find another indie --
I sure wish I had put those snow
6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires
A few years ago I was caught in a snowstorm, and after getting tired of the
rear end sliding around on Remington tires, I stopped at a tire shop in
the town I was in and they had a set of 4 used very little Blizzacks. I
put them on the 300SDL, and have been
Holy cowThat guy is a moron.
Mike
- Original Message -
From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires
As I've told you before - you need to find another indie --
I sure
You're supposed to be at home Sunday afternoon to sell me a set of wheels -
On 11/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Im headed to St Louis this weekend. Hope all the
crap has passed on by there by then.
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the right
Thats this Sunday? Crap. Im gone this sunday. You should have come
last sunday, or next sunday.
OK Don wrote:
You're supposed to be at home Sunday afternoon to sell me a set of wheels -
On 11/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Im headed to St Louis this weekend. Hope
@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires
buy a set of 4 used factory rims off kaleb and a new set of bridgestone
blizzaks from tire rack - you'll be fine. that car wil go like a tank in the
snow
jim
- Original Message -
From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent
OK Don wrote:
As I've told you before - you need to find another indie --
Well, maybe a customer with an SDL complained to him that
snow tires didn't prevent him from driving into the ditch.
Indy's still a fool for believing it.
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires
OK Don wrote:
As I've told you before - you need to find another indie --
Well, maybe a customer with an SDL complained to him that
snow tires didn't prevent him from driving into the ditch.
Indy's
in the snow than all seasons would be.
Mike
- Original Message -
From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires
OK Don wrote:
As I've told you before - you need to find another
If this is the same guy that maintained the 300D 2.5, I think it goes
beyond snow tires. I found way too many short-cuts and worn parts that
needed replacing to consider it as having received good maintenance.
LUTHER - here's a set of 126 wheels for you -
On 11/30/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL
Check ebay, a single wheel will show up fairly often.
Luther wrote:
NOOO, I've already tried to buy rims from Kaleb and he's out of stock. Grrr,
only need 1 for a spare in my SDL.
Luthers
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL,
87 300SDL
let me know how much you want for them
Donald Snook wrote:
Thanks for all the advice about the snow tires. You confirmed my belief
that this guy was a moron (at least as it related to the use of snow
tires). I will be getting mine soon - not soon enough to deal with the
6-12 inches we are
, 2006 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires
OK Don wrote:
As I've told you before - you need to find another indie --
Well, maybe a customer with an SDL complained to him that
snow tires didn't prevent him from driving into the ditch.
Indy's still a fool for believing
Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
.
- Original Message -
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires
Are Blizzaks expensive? They sound like
9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires
Are Blizzaks expensive? They sound like they must be imported from
the planet Zarkon.
On 11/30/06, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More of a fool for passing it on.Any mechanic worth thier shorts
would know better than that line of bull
the best there is.Second only maybe to Nokian
Hakkapelitta's.
They make a world of difference over all seasons.
Mike
- Original Message -
From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow
maybe to Nokian
Hakkapelitta's.
They make a world of difference over all seasons.
Mike
- Original Message -
From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] snow tires
A few years ago I
Nokians seem to be more expensive than Blizzaks.
In recent prices I've seen, before shipping, mounting balancing ect, Nokians
cost ~ $100 to $120. Blizzaks seem to be in the $70 to $85 range.
I'll share the following information, with the careat that it is what I
learned 8 years ago and the
The nokians will last 4-5 years hereas the Blizzaks will be great for 1-2
and then decline. I sold them for 10 years. Get the Hakkas! (unless you plan
on selling th car sooner)
Jeff Zedic
Toronto
Bear in mind that us Okie's can barely spell snow, much less know how
to use the tires appropriate for driving in it.
Do I take it that you Northerners put the snow tires on in the late
fall, and leave them on till the flowers come up in the spring?
On 11/30/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah, here in NY, I've heard Thanksgiving to Easter as a basic reference
point. That said we have yet to see any real snow so far this year.
They're talking about maybe this weekend though...
Levi
On 11/30/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bear in mind that us Okie's can barely spell snow,
Keep in mind that we're lucky here in Toronto. They get MUCH worse snow to
the south of us in uptate NYMUCH WORSE! They get lake effect snowfall
and we get the warmth from the lakes instead!! hahaha...suckers!
I see a few cars with snows on, but mostly people wait until the first
Throw 100 kg of kitty litter in the trunk and some snows and you'll be
golden!
Jeff Zedic
Basking in the mild November weather in Toronto
Not seen any ice yet!
(or snow)
buy a set of 4 used factory rims off kaleb and a new set of bridgestone
blizzaks from tire rack - you'll be fine. that car wil go like a tank in the
snow
jim
- Original Message -
From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 5:13 PM
Donald Snook wrote:
We are having our first snow/ice/freezing rain of the season here in
America's Heartland (Kansas) and I am planning to get snow tires. On my
most recent prior Mercedes, the snow tires came with the car mounted on
a second set of wheels (2 tires not four). Well, I sold that
A few years ago I was caught in a snowstorm, and after getting tired of the
rear end sliding around on Remington tires, I stopped at a tire shop in
the town I was in and they had a set of 4 used very little Blizzacks. I
put them on the 300SDL, and have been using them each winter since. My
I wanted them twelve months ago, Walt, but the cost of shipping is a
significant percentage of buying them locally.
--
Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.
Walt,
are those bundts?
I am headed up Thursday and may need some tires for Gump
On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, at 07:02 PM, W. Lasher wrote:
Snow Tires for Sale:
I have 2 studded snow tires for sale
Cooper Weather master S/T
P197/70 R 14 M/S, These were used on my
Very interested in the snow tires. Wonder how much that would take to ship
to Iowa? Do you have an approximate weight?
On 11/3/05, W. Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Snow Tires for Sale:
I have 2 studded snow tires for sale
Cooper Weather master S/T
P197/70 R 14 M/S, These were used on my
D'oh, I was just up in Everett yesterday!
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (210k)
'84 300D (205k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
That sounds like good information to me. Generally you're looking for
narrower tires to cut through the snow, not ride on top. Taller helps to
give you a little more ground clearance, but it throws off the speedo and
generally is limited by fender clearance over bumps. As for tread patterns,
Levi,
I'm moving from an Audi quattro to a '93 300 turbodiesel, so I've got a
similar adjustment to make :)
I'm sticking with the Nokians...they've been wonderful tires, and I see no
reason to change. The Blizzaks, btw, will change characteristics as they
wear...the first layer of tread will
I know what you mean about the tread on the Blizzaks. That's kind-of a
trade-off. You only get the top 55% of the tread with the good snow
compound. (though the new ones have standard snow tire tread for the
bottom 45%, instead of all-season like the old ones) However, the other
factor is
Sure, Bill, the standard recommendation for a passenger car is to go
with a minus-zero tire for snow, one that's a size narrower and a size
higher in aspect ratio, such as 185-75-14 for a W123. I didn't check the
size comparison charts, but I think that size would be
appropriate.Taller,
I can't tell you much about pricing on the Nokians. Years ago, Hakkas used
to be cheap. Today, they're not...I think I paid about $150 or $160 per tire
for a 215/55 16 last year. I do buy from the expensive local shop because
they provide lifetime balancing/mounting/etc, so it ends up being less
Russ writes:
A new innovation from Nokian is the
introduction of plant oil (!) in the rubber compound
of their Hakkapelliita RSI. It
supposedly sheds moisture -- but I recall one user post
somewhere that they were a little slippery right out of the box.
I didn't notice any squirminess
BillR wrote:
Gee .I've not had any problems with them in the past 20 years. Never slid
around any of the three [partial] days I had to use the heater in the house.
How are they in hurricanes?
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