Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2006, ****UPDATE***

2006-03-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Dont know, have not heard from him yet.

LT Don wrote:


Marshall is going to be attending?

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because the guest of honor is needing to
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Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2006, ****UPDATE***

2006-03-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
We are going to sacrafice a calf to the great Rusty!!  Hope we dont burn 
down the trailer park :)


Rusty Cullens wrote:

No, ME. 


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Marshall is going to be attending?

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because the guest of honor is needing to
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices

2006-03-03 Thread John W. Reames III

I'd buy BioD exclusively, even at a higher cost, if I didn't have to drive 
20-25 miles off of my commute (97mi each way) to get the stuff, especially 
when there's a diesel pump ~50 feet off of my commute... (I'd put up with 
2-3 miles out of the way, but I pass at least 3 fuel stations with pumps 
that close to my commute and at least 2 more that are within .1 miles...)

I wanted to load up on  a tankful last I was up my father-in-law's 
(Westminster, MD) but the place only likes to sell minimum 40 gallons... 
which would take a bit of work to fit in one of our vehicles :)

 
 




Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices

2006-03-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

We are getting screwed.

Brian Chase wrote:

I'm sure this has been covered before, so bear with me, but does anyone 
think that diesel will go back to being cheaper than gas? Or are we doomed 
to pay more from now on? Has there been some special tax applied to diesel? 
Why is it so much more now?


Brian
83 240D



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The attached web site will give the lowest fuel (gas  diesel) prices by 
zip

code.  It may be helpful to you.

-- http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=src=Netx


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Re: [MBZ] W123 power steering filter

2006-03-03 Thread John W. Reames III
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, John Berryman wrote:
 lots of holes, when you move the fluid out of the way. Leave some  
 breathing room when you fill it. There is no fill line, I leave an  
 inch or so space.
The fill line is the points of the triangles on the side of the plastic 
spindle inside the reservoir.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices

2006-03-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
There is a bid difference between record profits and profit MARGINS. 
The profits can be record but the margins stay the same.


Luther Gulseth wrote:

More BioD or Ethanol production will not lower prices.  The powers that be know that the market can handle the price it's currently at, they're money hungry, and won't let the price drop much (record profits from Exon/Mobil last 4th quarter???).  BioD production can cost less than diesel per gallon, but yet the BioD prices are similar to the petro prices.  Also, stations that sell B99 can receive a tax refund of $0.99/gal for each gallon of BioD they sell.  Where does that money go?  Deffinately NOT to the consumerit stays at the money hungry suplier.  


If you had a product to sell, and you knew the top dollar that it would fetch 
that wouldn't diminish the volume of sales, wouldn't you push the price to the 
top dollar???

Luther




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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices

2006-03-03 Thread Bob Rentfro

I believe the screwing will continue

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 149K
Litchfield Park, AZ


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We are getting screwed.

Brian Chase wrote:


I'm sure this has been covered before, so bear with me, but does anyone
think that diesel will go back to being cheaper than gas? Or are we 
doomed
to pay more from now on? Has there been some special tax applied to 
diesel?

Why is it so much more now?

Brian
83 240D



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The attached web site will give the lowest fuel (gas  diesel) prices by
zip
code.  It may be helpful to you.

-- http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=src=Netx


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Re: [MBZ] Headlight Troubles

2006-03-03 Thread John W. Reames III
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Loren Faeth wrote:

 Yeah, but Marshall never told you to replace the fuses for that side.  So I 
 will

Before your pistons melt :):) 
-j.





Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices

2006-03-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

BT, WRONG

Curt Raymond wrote:


Short term answer to a long term problem.
  If you want to see a long term solution tell your elected officials to impose 
a $1 across the board fuel tax. That'll get people interested in improving 
fleet economy NOW. It'll also create renewed interest in mass transit and for 
that matter bicycles, motorcycles, scooters and the like. Not to mention 
increase investment in solar, wind and hydropower.
   
  However we Americans are not interested in solutions, we're interested in golden bullet bandaids like simply drilling for more oil. No matter how the oil people say it isn't so, theres a finite amount of the stuff and once its gone its gone.
   
  -Curt
   


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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-03 Thread Curt Raymond
How much did you pay for it? It sounds like the deal of the year for sure. Bet 
you can make a tidy profit on that one.
   
  -Curt
   
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Curt Raymond wrote:
 40-45mph? Good lord I don't even think about 5th until I'm above 55. In 
 actuality getting on the highway I don't get into 4th until around 50.

   Supposedly this car has like year old injectors which I think is possible, 
 it sounds a bit more like a big rig diesel than either my 240D or 300TD did. 
 It did quiet down a bit with Mobil 1 in the crankcase.
   I need to do return lines, in fact I put together a list on Rusty's site 
 today (BTW the new site looks great guys but Hursty, if you're gonna say 
 between you gotta have 2 numbers, between 30 Mercedes doesn't make sense) 
 and with all my needs and *wants* filled in its like $400... Shoulda done 
 that last month and gotten a specially good deal.

   Economy continues to improve as the old crappy fuel gets more diluted. I 
 need to lay off the throttle some to get the economy way up. I started into 
 that today, unlike my 240D I don't need to floor it every time I take off 
 from a stop.

It will take hundreds or thousands of miles of driving before an OM60x 
engine that been run on conventional oil will completely quiet down when 
changed to Mobil 1!! One of my 190Ds took 40kmi (but 5-10kmi is more usual).

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Door seals

2006-03-03 Thread Jeff Zedic

Marshall,

 I'd hate to start an avalanche of work for you, but I'd like to see 
the relevant data for the W124. My driver's door has an annopying wind 
noise and I was just going to replace the seal.


Thanks!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300 TD



Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices

2006-03-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Levi Smith wrote:
 Anyone have any idea why HHO is getting to be more expensive than diesel?
 (since as far as I'm aware, HHO is either the same, or LESS refined than
 diesel...)

Delivery has something to do with it. I can recall about 20 years ago
when we were doing good to get Farm Bureau to deliver 300 gallons for
less (with no road tax) than you'd pay to fill up at the station.
Buying farm gas at the station was a far better deal.



Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2006

2006-03-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah it would be. Consider it one long Italian tuneup. :)
  Marshall says that a car always runs better after a long highway trip, we'd 
be talking what 5-6000 miles roundtrip? Tell you what, you come out and I'll 
change the oil for free while you're here.
   
  -Curt
   
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That would be crazy far from me

Bob Rentfro
AZ
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 Which reminds me, I should start planning ChowdaQ 2006 soon so it 
doesn't 
 become a disaster like last year. I'm thinking mid-May...

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On Mar 2, 2006, at 7:08 PM, John W. Reames III wrote:

 The fill line is the points of the triangles on the side of the  
 plastic
 spindle inside the reservoir.

 -j.


So how much air space does that leave?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2006

2006-03-03 Thread Bob Rentfro

Sweet!


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Yeah it would be. Consider it one long Italian tuneup. :)
 Marshall says that a car always runs better after a long highway trip, 
we'd be talking what 5-6000 miles roundtrip? Tell you what, you come out 
and I'll change the oil for free while you're here.


 -Curt

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That would be crazy far from me

Bob Rentfro
AZ
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Which reminds me, I should start planning ChowdaQ 2006 soon so it

doesn't

become a disaster like last year. I'm thinking mid-May...

 -Curt





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Re: [MBZ] I found an 82 300CD

2006-03-03 Thread David Brodbeck

ernest breakfield wrote:

   why would someone *not* fix the AC?


Probably because Portland's climate is (I think) a lot like Seattle's, 
which means you might only really want A/C for two or three weeks out of 
the year.  Not worth the cost, especially when it's just going to die 
again of disuse.




Re: [MBZ] Door seals

2006-03-03 Thread David Brodbeck

Jim Cathey wrote:

I use strips of bicycle inner tube to shim out rubber gasketing.
A dab of weatherstrip glue holds it in place.
  


Rope caulk from the hardware store works pretty well, too.  Comes with 
its own glue built in. ;)




Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices

2006-03-03 Thread David Brodbeck

Loren Faeth wrote:
If you want lower fuel prices and are a resident of the US, write or call 
your senators and representatives and demand relaxation of regulations 
against drilling and refining.  In particular, ask them to grow a spine and 
allow drilling in the arctic tundra.
  


Hmm.  Would that reduce prices at the pump, or just result in higher oil 
company profits?  I have my doubts that increased supply will help much 
unless we either get more competition in the industry or get more 
regulation.


Other questions are whether the volume of oil pumped from ANWR would be 
enough of a percentage of global production to drop the price noticably, 
and whether the production increase would be matched by a cut by OPEC, 
making the overall supply the same and keeping the price propped up.


I tend to think drilling in ANWR (and lots of more sensitive places) is 
inevitable as other established oil fields run dry in the future, but I 
DON'T think drilling there will ever result in a glut of oil that will 
drop the price of fuel significantly.




Re: [MBZ] Fuel Prices

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey
(Westminster, MD) but the place only likes to sell minimum 40 
gallons...

which would take a bit of work to fit in one of our vehicles :)


Not my latest 240D acquisition!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Door seals

2006-03-03 Thread Bill Gallagher
My driver's door has a wind noise just in real cold weather like 20F and 
below.. years ago the MB dealer told me it needs a new door-cost 
$2,000.00 Went on a cruise instead 
   Reading the threads, seems like the upper door hinge just needs to 
be move about a 1/8 inch or less to cure the problem ... but that does 
not seem to be a easy job to control the movement any suggestions ?


Bill
1981 300 TD



Jeff Zedic wrote:

Marshall,

  I'd hate to start an avalanche of work for you, but I'd like to see 
the relevant data for the W124. My driver's door has an annopying wind 
noise and I was just going to replace the seal.


Thanks!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300 TD

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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey

How much did you pay for it?


$500.  Cost me $100 to go get it.


It sounds like the deal of the year for sure.


That remains to be seen!


Bet you can make a tidy profit on that one.


That was the plan.  If it doesn't work out, I won't do
it again.

I dumped out the fuel filters and blew through them, they
passed air freely.  I blew into the fuel feed line back to
the tank with compressed air, so that should have cleared
(if only temporarily) the tank screen.  I and the driveway
are now covered in fuel.

I checked the vacuum shutoff valve and it doesn't seem to leak.
Sucking on it directly shuts off the engine.  There is no vacuum on
the valve when the key is on.  A test drive after all of this was
no different.  Gutless.  Injection pump?  That would not be nice.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] SWMBO translation (was: sort of MB related)

2006-03-03 Thread OK Don
No ---

 Any thoughts on this subject?


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'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
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Re: [MBZ] Door seals

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey

Reading the threads, seems like the upper door hinge just needs to
be move about a 1/8 inch or less to cure the problem ... but that does
not seem to be a easy job to control the movement any suggestions 
?


It's not.  What I've done is to just barely loosen the hinge bolts
and then tap with a soft mallet to get it to scoot little by little.
It's still not easy.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Door seals

2006-03-03 Thread David Brodbeck

Jim Cathey wrote:

Reading the threads, seems like the upper door hinge just needs to
be move about a 1/8 inch or less to cure the problem ... but that does
not seem to be a easy job to control the movement any suggestions 
?



It's not.  What I've done is to just barely loosen the hinge bolts
and then tap with a soft mallet to get it to scoot little by little.
It's still not easy.
  


Also, scribe around the hinge plate before you start, so if you make 
things worse you have a baseline to go back to.  (And you probably 
*will* make things worse, the first time you try it.)




Re: [MBZ] Grafting used front end parts from '78 to '84 W123

2006-03-03 Thread Zeitgeist
Y'up, I suspected the draglink and/or tierods, but they appear to be
reasonably tight.  I do like the idea of having someone turn the wheel
while I'm down there to see what's flexing the most.  The engine
mounts are shot on this thing too...

On 3/1/06, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have you gone under the car and had someone move the steering wheel slightly
 so you could see what is worn first? My brother's 300D had a similar 
 vibration,
 and it was a wiped out joint on the drag link.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (210k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)



Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-03 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 05:04:36PM -0800, Jim Cathey wrote:
 I dumped out the fuel filters and blew through them, they
 passed air freely.  I blew into the fuel feed line back to
 the tank with compressed air, so that should have cleared
 (if only temporarily) the tank screen.  I and the driveway
 are now covered in fuel.
 
 I checked the vacuum shutoff valve and it doesn't seem to leak.
 Sucking on it directly shuts off the engine.  There is no vacuum on
 the valve when the key is on.  A test drive after all of this was
 no different.  Gutless.  Injection pump?  That would not be nice.

Pump timing, restriction in the exhaust, EGR stuck the wrong way... few 
possibilities. How about a hand pump sucking a LOT of air?

K



Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)

2006-03-03 Thread Christopher McCann
My Indy (who uses all M1 products) INSISTS that TSUV/delvac  1/turbo diesel 
truck is too thin for my car in MO, even in winter since  it does not get THAT 
cold. Is he just nuts?
  
  ON THE OTHER HAND, is M1 15W-50 TOO THICK to use in Western Missouri winter, 
wearing out my engine further at start up?
  
  I do not have a leaking oil problem (I did until about 10,000 miles of M1 
15W-50).
  
  Thoughts o' wise men?
  
  Chris

Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  One of the main reasons to get 
Mobil1 Truck and SUV oil was to save a few 
cents over the price of Delvac1.  The last time I bought Delvac 1 a few 
months back, it cost me $5.50 a quart, based on $22 for a gallon jug.  It 
appears that the price differential is getting pretty small? Besides local 
Mobil oil distributors, most decent truck stops sell Delvac 1 in gallon jugs 
at about the same price.
Bottom line: rather than spend a lot of time looking for the elusive Mobil1 
TSUV, just buy the real thing, Delvac1!

Werner

- Original Message - 
From: James Zavesky 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1


 Bought 18  TS 5W40 quarts at two different Murrays in Cleveland for the
 600SEL and E320 @ $5.49/qt

 James Zavesky

 - Original Message - 
 From: OK Don 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1


 I found TS 5W40 at O'Reilly's this afternoon - $5.59/qt. I bought 10,
 and changed the oil on Rattled.

 On 2/26/06, Dave M.  wrote:
  I posted about this exact topic a week or two ago. Short version is,
  Mobil is screwing with their formulas AGAIN. The Mobil-1 5W-40 is now
  re-named Turbo Diesel Truck formula. But I have yet to see this at
  any store, let alone in 5qt jugs at Wal-Mart. There's also a new
  10W-40 'Extended Performance' version which looks tempting in place of
  the thicker 15W-50 'Extended Performance'. Neither of these is on the
  shelf at the 2 Wal-Marts near me.
 
  For Delvac-1, World Impex has it on sale for $25/gallon at the moment,
  but who knows what SH will be (I didn't check):
 
  http://www.worldimpex.com/item_detail.html?sku=238657
 
 
  :-)
 
  -Dave M.
 
   --
   Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:25:17 -0500
   From: Allan Streib 
   Subject: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1
  
  
   I know -- not another oil thread.  I admit I don't normally read them
   myself, so I probably have missed discussion of this.  So I do
   apologize if this is old news, but... I was at Wal Mart yesterday
   looking for Mobil 1 Truck and SUV  and I noticed that it is now 5W-30
   weight and no longer diesel rated.
  
   Looking around, they had nothing else they had in stock as far as
   Mobil 1 seemed suitable.  I am overdue for an oil change, so I picked
   up 2 gallons of Chevron Delo -- inexpensive, and good oil (though not
   Mobil 1).
  
   It's a bit frustrating that they keep reformulating and relabeling
   these oils.  Hopefully they are at least improving them in the
   process.
  
   So, for reference next time, what is the recommended M1 oil for an MB
   diesel?  Do I need to hunt down some Devlac 1?
  
   Allan
 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 shifting right or wrong or can I not count?

2006-03-03 Thread Christopher McCann
thanks Marshall. Will verify that my tranny is 722.1 or 722.3
  
  Chris

Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Christopher McCann wrote:
 1. When I start from a stop at normal speed or slowly, I only count three 
 gears - i.e. - seems to start in second.
   2. When I floor it from a dead stop, I get 4 gears.
   
   Is this right?
   
   Thanks!
   
   (speaking of '85 300SD here)

The Mercedes Automatic Transmissions Maintenance  Diagnostic (Thru 
1989) MB 056-89 (3/89) shows that cars with OM617 turbodiesel engines 
(with either 722.1 or 722.3 series transmissions) remain in 2nd gear 
when standing still (to prevent creep) but should drop into 1st as soon 
as the accelerator is moved to accelerate. If your car doesn't always 
drop into 1st, a slight adjustment (shortening) of the shift linkage 
(cable) should correct that. Other cars with other engines behave VERY 
differently (may stand in 1st, start in 1st, or start in 2nd, or 1st or 
2nd gear start may depend on the position of the accelerator pedal).

Marshall
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I've checked http://www.1010tires.com/ , but TireRack is always cheaper.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

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 Any other source for cheap tires besides tire rack?  Getting ready to
 order some tires from them and wondered if there was anybody cheaper out
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   84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)

2006-03-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I was just at walmart and the truck and SUV in the 5qt jugs is 5W30 or 
something like that, wtf?


Christopher McCann wrote:


My Indy (who uses all M1 products) INSISTS that TSUV/delvac  1/turbo diesel 
truck is too thin for my car in MO, even in winter since  it does not get THAT 
cold. Is he just nuts?
  
  ON THE OTHER HAND, is M1 15W-50 TOO THICK to use in Western Missouri winter, wearing out my engine further at start up?
  
  I do not have a leaking oil problem (I did until about 10,000 miles of M1 15W-50).
  
  Thoughts o' wise men?
  
  Chris


Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  One of the main reasons to get Mobil1 Truck and SUV oil was to save a few 
cents over the price of Delvac1.  The last time I bought Delvac 1 a few 
months back, it cost me $5.50 a quart, based on $22 for a gallon jug.  It 
appears that the price differential is getting pretty small? Besides local 
Mobil oil distributors, most decent truck stops sell Delvac 1 in gallon jugs 
at about the same price.
Bottom line: rather than spend a lot of time looking for the elusive Mobil1 
TSUV, just buy the real thing, Delvac1!


Werner

- Original Message - 
From: James Zavesky 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:07 PM

Subject: Re: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1




Bought 18  TS 5W40 quarts at two different Murrays in Cleveland for the
600SEL and E320 @ $5.49/qt

James Zavesky

- Original Message - 
From: OK Don 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:46 PM

Subject: Re: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1




I found TS 5W40 at O'Reilly's this afternoon - $5.59/qt. I bought 10,
and changed the oil on Rattled.

On 2/26/06, Dave M.  wrote:


I posted about this exact topic a week or two ago. Short version is,
Mobil is screwing with their formulas AGAIN. The Mobil-1 5W-40 is now
re-named Turbo Diesel Truck formula. But I have yet to see this at
any store, let alone in 5qt jugs at Wal-Mart. There's also a new
10W-40 'Extended Performance' version which looks tempting in place of
the thicker 15W-50 'Extended Performance'. Neither of these is on the
shelf at the 2 Wal-Marts near me.

For Delvac-1, World Impex has it on sale for $25/gallon at the moment,
but who knows what SH will be (I didn't check):

http://www.worldimpex.com/item_detail.html?sku=238657


:-)

-Dave M.



--
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:25:17 -0500
From: Allan Streib 
Subject: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1



I know -- not another oil thread.  I admit I don't normally read them
myself, so I probably have missed discussion of this.  So I do
apologize if this is old news, but... I was at Wal Mart yesterday
looking for Mobil 1 Truck and SUV  and I noticed that it is now 5W-30
weight and no longer diesel rated.

Looking around, they had nothing else they had in stock as far as
Mobil 1 seemed suitable.  I am overdue for an oil change, so I picked
up 2 gallons of Chevron Delo -- inexpensive, and good oil (though not
Mobil 1).

It's a bit frustrating that they keep reformulating and relabeling
these oils.  Hopefully they are at least improving them in the
process.

So, for reference next time, what is the recommended M1 oil for an MB
diesel?  Do I need to hunt down some Devlac 1?

Allan


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-1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf 
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Re: [MBZ] online tire dealers

2006-03-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I just ordered 4 of those kumho 795's, the 70k mile tires.  Hope they 
are good.


dave walton wrote:

I've checked http://www.1010tires.com/ , but TireRack is always cheaper.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

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Any other source for cheap tires besides tire rack?  Getting ready to
order some tires from them and wondered if there was anybody cheaper out
there.
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 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Door Hinge Grease Application

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey
OK, apologize in advance for the stupid questions, but where do you 
lubricate on the hinges?  Is there a zerk or just a tight spot?


No zerk, just a little round pit in the hinge that the point
of the special gun presses into.  Unless you're talking about
a 201, where I don't see a grease fitting at all.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey

I should mention that it takes well over a second to rev up to
redline with no load.

-- Jim




[MBZ] Another good thing about Bolton Landing NY

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


AP Press Report:

Nationwide, the admission rate for treatment of methamphetamine or  
amphetamine abuse rose from 28,000 in 1993 to nearly 136,000 patients  
in 2003, the report said. The review analyzed data on the  
approximately 1.8 million patients admitted each year for substance  
abuse treatment.


The report found 18 states with meth treatment rates higher than the  
national rate: Oregon was highest, followed by Hawaii, Iowa,  
California, Wyoming, Utah, Nevada, Washington, Montana, Arkansas,  
Nebraska, Oklahoma, Minnesota, South Dakota, Colorado, Missouri,  
Idaho and Kansas.


Northeastern states had relatively low rates of treatment admissions  
for meth and amphetamine abuse in 1993 and those rates remained low  
in 2003, the report said.


	One of my buddy's Xs is making it locally or was so I hear. That's  
about the only report of meth I've heard around here. Its a good  
thing they passed legislation limiting purchases of pseuda-fed and  
made the stores put it behind the counter, buyers have to show ID and  
sign a guest book. Strangely, many people mentioned to me that it was  
a problem in their area while I was on the disaster trail, just over  
the past few years. North Carolina, Florida, Louisiana, Texas,  
Mississippi, Alabama are places I was told it was epidemic. What's it  
like in Oregon? People up all night and day?








Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)

2006-03-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well I said screw it and bought all the delvac 1300 4 qt jugs they had 
on the shelf for 7.90 each.  I dont need not high dollar synthetic, do it?


Christopher McCann wrote:


Kaleb,
  
  read the first messages all the way at the bottom of my post and you  will see that we hae this thread about a week ago. They are changing  TSUV to 5W30 and replacing it with Turbo Diesel Truck Formula,  which no one can seem to find. General consensus - screw it and go with  Delvac 1.


Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I was just at walmart and the truck and SUV in the 5qt jugs is 5W30 or 
something like that, wtf?


Christopher McCann wrote:



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Re: [MBZ] 123 Power Steering Filter

2006-03-03 Thread LT Don
Send me your mailing address offline and what I pulled out can be yours for
free. You seem to be the sort of individual who enjoys holding relics in
your hand and pondering the whys of engineering.

On 3/2/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Mar 2, 2006, at 5:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  LT Don,
  The plate was only used with the ceramic ring
  [Original ?]
  ,cause I found the same thing.Scares me 'cause that might mean this
  was never
  changed  I did this @ 172,000 miles. The new filter has holes
  facing up. Next
  time I'll switch to synthetic now that all you guys are
  brainwashing me.Thanks
  Johnny B for your input of the 1 inch gap-I didn't know
 
  Bob


 I have yet to see a ceramic piece in the PS pump. Any PS filter I
 ever saw had a pleated paper filter doing the dirty work. I wonder if
 yours got petrified and came apart.

 Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


I neglected to mention that I tried to check chain stretch, but I'm
not sure I did it right.  I got a figure greater than 20 degrees.
The hand pump, when unscrewed, leaks a lot.

-- Jim



	If you rotated the engine watching the cam mark come around and  
stopped it when it was lined up, read the # of degrees on the damper,  
then you did it right. 20 degrees is crazy sloppy. In one way I hope  
your wrong but in another it may be the running problem. I would  
replace the filters with new BTW. If you end up needing the chain, at  
least you'll have fresh filters.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)

2006-03-03 Thread Dave M.
Yes, your indy is nuts. The 5W-40 weight is basically identical to
Delvac-1, arguable the best diesel synthetic on the market, period.
However, 15W-50 is not too thick, and if that makes you both happier,
it would be a fine second choice. There is also a new 10W-40 variety
that might be a good compromise. I'm waiting to see which if these
three, if ANY, finally appear at Wal-Mart

Kaleb - sheesh, where the hell have you BEEN? We've had a number of
threads on the TS 5W-30 topic in the past 2 weeks. Short answer -
they are renaming 5W-40 (what we want) to Turbo Diesel Truck, and
calling the 5W-30 Truck and SUV. VERY confusing. I have not seen the
5W-40 on the shelf, at any store, as of yet. I'm still looking.

For everyone else, yeah, Delvac-1 would be preferable, the deterrent
there is cost, and it can be hard to find locally. Yeah, I know you
can buy it via the internet, but with SH costs it ends up being close
to $30 per gallon (or $37.50 for 5 quarts, to compare to the Wal-Mart
jugs). And at that price, we can buy Amsoil from Johnny Bee a lot
cheaper!

:)

-Dave M.

 --
 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 17:29:40 -0800 (PST)
 From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)


 My Indy (who uses all M1 products) INSISTS that TSUV/delvac  1/turbo
 diesel truck is too thin for my car in MO, even in winter since  it does not
 get THAT cold. Is he just nuts?

  ON THE OTHER HAND, is M1 15W-50 TOO THICK to use in Western
 Missouri winter, wearing out my engine further at start up?

  I do not have a leaking oil problem (I did until about 10,000 miles of M1 
 15W-50).

  Thoughts o' wise men?

  Chris



[MBZ] what a shame

2006-03-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Think Im going to bid on it, bet it would be a mother to load on a trailer.

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Re: [MBZ] Door seals

2006-03-03 Thread Marshall Booth

David Brodbeck wrote:



Also, scribe around the hinge plate before you start, so if you make 
things worse you have a baseline to go back to.  (And you probably 
*will* make things worse, the first time you try it.)


VERY good suggestion!!

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Power Steering Filter

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:07 PM, LT Don wrote:

Send me your mailing address offline and what I pulled out can be  
yours for
free. You seem to be the sort of individual who enjoys holding  
relics in

your hand and pondering the whys of engineering.



	Take some  digi-pics and post them here. I can't divulge my  
location, wouldn't be prudent.


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Re: [MBZ] what a shame

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Think Im going to bid on it, bet it would be a mother to load on a  
trailer.


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Benz-300SEL-4- 5L_W0QQitemZ4617675409QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Leave engine running, he says it pumps up.  That was a shame, indeed.

-- Jim




[MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?

2006-03-03 Thread David Johnson
Dear Listers,
I forgot to turn off the headlights today for 4 hours,
and my Interstate is dead.
Is Optima 34 Red top the right choice for my 83 300DT?
Or is it the 34R or some other new option?
Thanks.
David



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Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:08 PM, Dave M. wrote:


For everyone else, yeah, Delvac-1 would be preferable, the deterrent
there is cost, and it can be hard to find locally. Yeah, I know you
can buy it via the internet, but with SH costs it ends up being close
to $30 per gallon (or $37.50 for 5 quarts, to compare to the Wal-Mart
jugs). And at that price, we can buy Amsoil from Johnny Bee a lot
cheaper!

:)

-Dave M.



	Amen. None of my stuff has blowed up from using  
it. yet.


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Door seals

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:11 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:


VERY good suggestion!!

Marshall
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Better idea: Use a Sharpie and wash it off with alkihol and a Q-Tip.

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Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)

2006-03-03 Thread Christopher McCann
prolly splitting hairs then...never stopped me before. I have a  ton-o-15W50 at 
home (like several years supply) so since the difference  isn't huge, I'll just 
worry about this when that supply dries up.
  
  Thanks!
  
  Chris

Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Yes, your indy is nuts. The 5W-40 weight 
is basically identical to
Delvac-1, arguable the best diesel synthetic on the market, period.
However, 15W-50 is not too thick, and if that makes you both happier,
it would be a fine second choice. There is also a new 10W-40 variety
that might be a good compromise. I'm waiting to see which if these
three, if ANY, finally appear at Wal-Mart

Kaleb - sheesh, where the hell have you BEEN? We've had a number of
threads on the TS 5W-30 topic in the past 2 weeks. Short answer -
they are renaming 5W-40 (what we want) to Turbo Diesel Truck, and
calling the 5W-30 Truck and SUV. VERY confusing. I have not seen the
5W-40 on the shelf, at any store, as of yet. I'm still looking.

For everyone else, yeah, Delvac-1 would be preferable, the deterrent
there is cost, and it can be hard to find locally. Yeah, I know you
can buy it via the internet, but with SH costs it ends up being close
to $30 per gallon (or $37.50 for 5 quarts, to compare to the Wal-Mart
jugs). And at that price, we can buy Amsoil from Johnny Bee a lot
cheaper!

:)

-Dave M.

 --
 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 17:29:40 -0800 (PST)
 From: Christopher McCann 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)


 My Indy (who uses all M1 products) INSISTS that TSUV/delvac  1/turbo
 diesel truck is too thin for my car in MO, even in winter since  it does not
 get THAT cold. Is he just nuts?

  ON THE OTHER HAND, is M1 15W-50 TOO THICK to use in Western
 Missouri winter, wearing out my engine further at start up?

  I do not have a leaking oil problem (I did until about 10,000 miles of M1 
 15W-50).

  Thoughts o' wise men?

  Chris

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   If you rotated the engine watching the cam mark come around and
 stopped it when it was lined up, read the # of degrees on the damper,
 then you did it right. 20 degrees is crazy sloppy.

The mark is on the side of the cam tower, towards the fuel filter.
20 degrees (or 25) ATDC is what I got measuring the pip on the tower
against a little notch in the the gear (or washer).  Basically off the
end of 

Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)

2006-03-03 Thread Christopher McCann
i usually plug in when it gets even remotely cold, just to make life  nicer 
for the engine...so prolly doing OK. It does NOT get that cold  here.
  
  Chris

John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
On Mar 2, 2006, at 8:29 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:

 My Indy (who uses all M1 products) INSISTS that TSUV/delvac  1/ 
 turbo diesel truck is too thin for my car in MO, even in winter  
 since  it does not get THAT cold. Is he just nuts?

   ON THE OTHER HAND, is M1 15W-50 TOO THICK to use in Western  
 Missouri winter, wearing out my engine further at start up?

   I do not have a leaking oil problem (I did until about 10,000  
 miles of M1 15W-50).

   Thoughts o' wise men?

   Chris


 Most of my MB diesels are currently running M 1 15-50. It was 18  
below yesterday, to give you some scope.

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Damn -- I hate to miss meeting the Great Rusty - we'll be out of State
both weekends -- ya'll have a good time anyways!

On 3/2/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We are going to sacrafice a calf to the great Rusty!!  Hope we dont burn
 down the trailer park :)

 Rusty Cullens wrote:

  No, ME.
 

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Re: [MBZ] Door Hinge Grease Application

2006-03-03 Thread Christopher McCann
no, 124 and 126...where do you find 3 oz grease cans to screw on it...or 
doesn;t it owrk like that...and what kind of grease?
  
  Chris

Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   OK, apologize in advance for the 
stupid questions, but where do you 
 lubricate on the hinges?  Is there a zerk or just a tight spot?

No zerk, just a little round pit in the hinge that the point
of the special gun presses into.  Unless you're talking about
a 201, where I don't see a grease fitting at all.

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   If you rotated the engine watching the cam mark come around and
 stopped it when it was lined up, read the # of degrees on the damper,
 then you did it right. 20 degrees is crazy sloppy.

Isn't a cam gear tooth good for 18 degrees?  Could the cam timing
have jumped, or been made wrong by highly-specialized Columbia Gorge
mercy-dees chevcanics?

I guess what I'm asking for is a guide on how to recognize the
difference between a 20-degree clapped-out death chain, and a
2-degree nearly new one that somebody installed wrong.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2006, ****UPDATE***

2006-03-03 Thread LT Don
BOTH?

On 3/2/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Damn -- I hate to miss meeting the Great Rusty - we'll be out of State
 both weekends -- ya'll have a good time anyways!

 On 3/2/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We are going to sacrafice a calf to the great Rusty!!  Hope we dont burn
  down the trailer park :)
 
  Rusty Cullens wrote:
 
   No, ME.
  

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Re: [MBZ] Door Hinge Grease Application

2006-03-03 Thread Marshall Booth

Christopher McCann wrote:
OK, apologize in advance for the stupid questions, but where do you  lubricate on the hinges?  Is there a zerk or just a tight spot? 


If you mean a 124/201 or later car - there is NO fitting. Fittings on 
123/126 and earlier sedans.


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Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey

I forgot to turn off the headlights today for 4 hours,
and my Interstate is dead.


Does your buzzer not work?  My wife relies heavily upon ours.
Putting one into the SL (which didn't have one) was _way_
cheaper and less PITA than even one dead battery incident.
And there would have been many more than one!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


The car has 300kmi on it, it may be the original chain.  If there
is confidence that I did the test right I guess I'll be needing a
chain!  Goodie, I've never done one of those before.

But could 20deg stretch cause it to only have power enough to go
up hills in 1?  It is truly a dog, as soon as it upshifts it drops
in RPM, and keeps dropping.  Feels like it's got a Briggs motor
under the hood.  It could be that the pump is more out of time
than the chain stretch would account for.  For that matter, it
needn't be stretch, somebody could have put it back together
all wrong.  Records are incomplete, to say the least.

-- Jim



	Hint. Don't stop. I never saw one get so bad that it wouldn't drive  
somewhat normal. Saw plenty of blown chains/engines. thankfully none  
I owned.


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:

i usually plug in when it gets even remotely cold, just to make  
life  nicer for the engine...so prolly doing OK. It does NOT get  
that cold  here.


  Chris



	I started my 190D Euro yesterday morning. If I was lucky it was only  
10-12 below by that time. I haven't installed the block heater yet.  
In fact I don't have one in stock either. That's how nice I am to my  
engines. I dare them not to start and run.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] 123 Power Steering Filter

2006-03-03 Thread OK Don
My 115 chassis cars all came with the ceramic rings. They all got
replaced with the newer paper element filters -
'70 220D, RIP
'76 300D, RIP
'76 300D, RIP



 I have yet to see a ceramic piece in the PS pump. Any PS filter I
 ever saw had a pleated paper filter doing the dirty work. I wonder if
 yours got petrified and came apart.

 Johnny B.

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Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?

2006-03-03 Thread David Johnson
Jim,
There's no buzzer here.  The only time I heard a
buzzer was for the seatbelt, and that one came on only
once during the last 2 years. 
How would I intstall the buzzer for the headlight? 
Any part number for Rusty?
Thanks.
David
83 300DT.

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 Does your buzzer not work?  My wife relies heavily
 upon ours.
 Putting one into the SL (

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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey

Hint. Don't stop. I never saw one get so bad that it wouldn't drive
somewhat normal. Saw plenty of blown chains/engines.


I don't understand.  What shouldn't I stop?  I don't want to buy a
chain if it's already got a new one in it that is misinstalled.  But
how to detect this...

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:32 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


I guess what I'm asking for is a guide on how to recognize the
difference between a 20-degree clapped-out death chain, and a
2-degree nearly new one that somebody installed wrong.

-- Jim



	Pul it out and compare the length to a new one. Look inside the hump  
of the valve cover. Any grooves? Aluminum in the oil? Is the chain  
sloppy enough to move by hand?
	You could do the not recommended and turn the engine backwards after  
overshooting by some and have a look see.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] 123 Power Steering Filter

2006-03-03 Thread LT Don
All RIP?  Have you considered a career in marketing?

On 3/2/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My 115 chassis cars all came with the ceramic rings. They all got
 replaced with the newer paper element filters -
 '70 220D, RIP
 '76 300D, RIP
 '76 300D, RIP




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Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2006, ****UPDATE***

2006-03-03 Thread OK Don
Yup - two week, 3800 mile trip, June 10th through the 25th. Route
takes us by your house the 16th or 17th --

On 3/2/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 BOTH?

 On 3/2/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Damn -- I hate to miss meeting the Great Rusty - we'll be out of State
  both weekends -- ya'll have a good time anyways!

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'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go



Re: [MBZ] 123 Power Steering Filter

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:45 PM, OK Don wrote:


My 115 chassis cars all came with the ceramic rings. They all got
replaced with the newer paper element filters -



	I guess i've only seen cars that had some kind of maintenance, spose  
I could be having a pre- senior moment too.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey

There's no buzzer here.  The only time I heard a
buzzer was for the seatbelt, and that one came on only
once during the last 2 years.


Don't you have a key-in buzzer?


How would I intstall the buzzer for the headlight?
Any part number for Rusty?


Oh, if only it were that easy.  When they put that
in factory I think it accompanied a change from positive
to negative ground door switches.  Not a trivial change,
in other words.  I flanged in a small 12V relay powered
by the parking light circuit that is in-line with the
key-in switch.  It fakes key-in when the lights are
on.  But a detailed examination of your car's schematic
would show what was necessary.  One ruined battery saved
certainly would pay for the effort, IMHO.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2006, ****UPDATE***

2006-03-03 Thread LT Don
I know and am planning ... will even buy some more propane by then.  Iowa
chops sound ok?  How many we serving and what is your brand of beer? ..
Loren / IA Don, want to come up for it?

(IA Don probably doesn't even know who I am talking about.)

D.

On 3/2/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Route takes us by your house the 16th or 17th --




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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


I don't understand.  What shouldn't I stop?  I don't want to buy a
chain if it's already got a new one in it that is misinstalled.  But
how to detect this...

-- Jim




	I meant don't stop when you're winding the new one in. Ask the  
person you bought it from if someone tried to fix it? If the  
backwards test doesn't reveal anything obvious.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2006, ****UPDATE***

2006-03-03 Thread LT Don
D'oh ... make that IA _DAN_, not IA Don. Damn'd fingers!

On 3/2/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know and am planning ... will even buy some more propane by then.  Iowa
 chops sound ok?  How many we serving and what is your brand of beer? ..
 Loren / IA Don, want to come up for it?

 (IA Don probably doesn't even know who I am talking about.)

 D.


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Re: [MBZ] 123 Power Steering Filter

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:51 PM, LT Don wrote:


All RIP?  Have you considered a career in marketing?



Cremation furnaces?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] 123 Power Steering Filter

2006-03-03 Thread LT Don
Actually, the ceramic or whatever it is (feel free to step in, Marshall)
seems to do the intended job. My car has about 215,000+ MILES (not K) and
the wheels still turn smoothly as needed. Yea, the new Rusty Filter is in
there now, but this car has steered for longer than some on this list have
been alive, and I think with the original filter.

I continue to hold to the fact that the Benz engineers (WW II not
withstanding) did not have their heads up their rectums. Truth be told, I
almost hated removing the ceramic thing and putting in paper, but logic made
me do so.

On 3/2/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:45 PM, OK Don wrote:

  My 115 chassis cars all came with the ceramic rings. They all got
  replaced with the newer paper element filters -


 I guess i've only seen cars that had some kind of maintenance,
 spose
 I could be having a pre- senior moment too.

 Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2006, ****UPDATE***

2006-03-03 Thread OK Don
Well, if the OkieQ is the 17th - I'd expect you to be down here while
I'm up there -- BUT, YES - Iowa chops would be GREAT. Beer - the
darker the better. should dtand up on it's own when poured out of the
bottle ---
Three of us, but the son eats like two --

On 3/2/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know and am planning ... will even buy some more propane by then.  Iowa
 chops sound ok?  How many we serving and what is your brand of beer? ..
 Loren / IA Don, want to come up for it?


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'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Power Steering Filter

2006-03-03 Thread LT Don
Naw, I meant changing the PS filter then suddenly a car that was RIP.

You won't appreciate Don (either of us) until you actually do so. We are
the same thing, only different.

Maybe at OkieQ 2006 -- at least one of us.

On 3/2/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:51 PM, LT Don wrote:

  All RIP?  Have you considered a career in marketing?


 Cremation furnaces?

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Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2006, ****UPDATE***

2006-03-03 Thread LT Don
If I am in OkieLand, I will give directions to the house and put some Iowa
Chops in the frig, plus tell you where the key is.  The gas grill is outside
the back door.



On 3/2/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, if the OkieQ is the 17th - I'd expect you to be down here while
 I'm up there -- BUT, YES - Iowa chops would be GREAT. Beer - the
 darker the better. should dtand up on it's own when poured out of the
 bottle ---
 Three of us, but the son eats like two --

 On 3/2/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I know and am planning ... will even buy some more propane by
 then.  Iowa
  chops sound ok?  How many we serving and what is your brand of beer? ..
  Loren / IA Don, want to come up for it?
 

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 '90 300D 243K, Rattled
 '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
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 '78 450SLC 67K, brown car
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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey

Pull it out and compare the length to a new one.


Problematic.  I'd need another chain to run in as a placeholder
(unless I really want to make the chain job harder), _and_ a
new chain to measure.  I have neither, though I might be able
to use the dead/rusty chain from the thrown-rod 190D or the
one I changed out of the SDL that is now weighing down the
cupholder in the SL...  Still leaves me shy one new chain
measurement though.

I'd think a 20deg chain would flop sideways nearly as well
as it bent in the normal direction.


Look inside the hump of the valve cover. Any grooves?


Clean.


Aluminum in the oil?


Would need to drain I guess.


Is the chain sloppy enough to move by hand?


I can press in a bit over the chain guide that's
by the tensioner, so it's not taut there.


You could do the not recommended and turn the engine backwards after
overshooting by some and have a look see.


I'll try that.  I can do lots of stuff, but it ought to be
obvious by now that I don't know what I'm doing.  Yet!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)

2006-03-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
I used to start my 1977 300D without a heater. My record is 14F above
freezing with conventional 15W40 diesel oil. My secret? I used to keep a
battery charger on the battery. If choosing between the two, a warm battery
is more valuable than a warm block. The glow plugs will take the same hit
from the battery regardless and extreme cold saps most of your battery's
energy.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:

 i usually plug in when it gets even remotely cold, just to make
 life  nicer for the engine...so prolly doing OK. It does NOT get
 that cold  here.

   Chris


I started my 190D Euro yesterday morning. If I was lucky it was only
10-12 below by that time. I haven't installed the block heater yet.
In fact I don't have one in stock either. That's how nice I am to my
engines. I dare them not to start and run.

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Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey

I meant don't stop when you're winding the new one in. Ask the


Ah, I get it.  I plan (whenever I actually do one) to use
copper 12ga wire to tie the chains to the sprocket in a
rather tedious but presumably fail-safe baby steps method.


person you bought it from if someone tried to fix it?


I don't think he knew that much, the poor car spent at least
ten years with three owners in the Columbia Gorge, which isn't
exactly full of MB's.  I have receipts for three batteries,
for example.  And the disabled vacuum and AC systems speak
to a certain level of... inexperience I guess we'll say.

The last owner had vague plans of powering a Lincoln welder
with the motor, as he was sure the tranny was bad.


If the backwards test doesn't reveal anything obvious.


OK.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Door seals

2006-03-03 Thread Bill Gallagher
Just put cotton in the right ear is a low cost solution ...  get some at 
your next doctor's visit . never guess what it will be used for ...


bill
1981 300 TD





John Berryman wrote:

On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:11 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:

  

VERY good suggestion!!

Marshall
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Better idea: Use a Sharpie and wash it off with alkihol and a Q-Tip.

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Re: [MBZ] Door Hinge Grease Application

2006-03-03 Thread Bill Gallagher

What other grease fittings are on a 123/126 

bill
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Marshall Booth wrote:

Christopher McCann wrote:
  
OK, apologize in advance for the stupid questions, but where do you  lubricate on the hinges?  Is there a zerk or just a tight spot? 



If you mean a 124/201 or later car - there is NO fitting. Fittings on 
123/126 and earlier sedans.


Marshall

  




Re: [MBZ] Door seals

2006-03-03 Thread OK Don
Taht won't keep the ear warm - but ear muffs 

On 3/2/06, Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go



Re: [MBZ] NICE 123 Great color combination on ebay

2006-03-03 Thread Loren Faeth
I think Midnight blue is the best looking color on the 123.  It looks like 
our 240D, but is in better shape.  It has lived in a more hospitable climate.


At 05:29 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:

[http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/84-MERCEDES-300D-TURBO-DIESEL-BOOKS-RECO
RDS-LOW-MILES_W0QQitemZ4618022909QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem]





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Re: [MBZ] online tire dealers

2006-03-03 Thread Loren Faeth
I just ordered a pair from Community tire.  I think they are in St. 
Louis.  They have a price buster For $35 a tire you get S or T rated 
tires, but no choice of brand.  On their route, they deliver and if you 
don't like the Price Buster, you can send them back.  They deliver to my 
brother's shop, so I just get them there.  I am not sure if they will 
ship.  I can get the 800 Number if anyone is interested.


Loren

At 07:30 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:

Any other source for cheap tires besides tire rack?  Getting ready to
order some tires from them and wondered if there was anybody cheaper out
there.
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  90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
  84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Door seals

2006-03-03 Thread Marshall Booth
Marshall Booth wrote:

 The door MAY become bent OR the hinge can move a bit so that the top (or =

 bottom) are no longer properly positioned. There are pages of body panel =

 alignment data (for each chassis model) in the TDM in section 60. Later =

 tonight I'll TRY to scan the 201 air gap page and post it.

Air gaps from 1988 TDM

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] what a shame

2006-03-03 Thread Loren Faeth
Maybe someone can tell you the dimensions of the support blocks.  If not, 
cut some wedges out of 2x4s and take along 2 jacks.  Jack up one end, then 
stuff the blocks/wedges in, then do the same on the other end.  If you take 
a battery and some gas, it might even start and drive on the trailer.


At 08:09 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:

Think Im going to bid on it, bet it would be a mother to load on a trailer.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-73-Mercedes-Benz-300SEL-4-5L_W0QQitemZ4617675409QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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  84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2006, ****UPDATE***

2006-03-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

well its a once in a lifetime opportunity, you can change your other plans

OK Don wrote:


Damn -- I hate to miss meeting the Great Rusty - we'll be out of State
both weekends -- ya'll have a good time anyways!

On 3/2/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


We are going to sacrafice a calf to the great Rusty!!  Hope we dont burn
down the trailer park :)

Rusty Cullens wrote:



No, ME.




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Re: [MBZ] online tire dealers

2006-03-03 Thread LT Don
Send it.

Guess which car it is for?

On 3/2/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just ordered a pair from Community tire.  I think they are in St.
 Louis.  They have a price buster For $35 a tire you get S or T rated
 tires, but no choice of brand.  On their route, they deliver and if you
 don't like the Price Buster, you can send them back.  They deliver to my
 brother's shop, so I just get them there.  I am not sure if they will
 ship.  I can get the 800 Number if anyone is interested.

 Loren

 At 07:30 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:
 Any other source for cheap tires besides tire rack?  Getting ready to
 order some tires from them and wondered if there was anybody cheaper out
 there.
 --
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90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)

2006-03-03 Thread LT Don
You shoulda gone Priest, bro' but I am sure the wife'd disagree.

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 prolly splitting hairs then...never stopped me before.




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Re: [MBZ] W123 power steering filter

2006-03-03 Thread LT Don
Plastic?  I ain't got no stinkin' plastic in MY PS reservoir. And the
triangle now floats to the top of wherever the spring is.

On 3/2/06, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, John Berryman wrote:
  lots of holes, when you move the fluid out of the way. Leave some
  breathing room when you fill it. There is no fill line, I leave an
  inch or so space.
 The fill line is the points of the triangles on the side of the plastic
 spindle inside the reservoir.

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Re: [MBZ] C280

2006-03-03 Thread RELNGSON
 For what it is worth, a friend of mine has one of these same year and
 model and he loves it. He has over 200K on it and has never had any
 problems with. He swears by the C280 rather than the newer 220, 230, or
 240.
 
Having purchased a '95 C280 new, (drove it six years) I find it hard to 
believe that a 200K mile car had never had problems. In fact, flat impossible. 
There can't be a single M104 engine on the planet that hasn't had a head 
gasket, 
just as one example.

Even so, the W202 C280 is a pretty good car and far better than the W201, 
diesel or not. All of the designed in faults would have been repaired long ago 
on 
someone else's nickel.

Here's mine. Garnet red metallic with Saddle full leather:

http://members.aol.com/relngson/C280PHOTOS/C280PIC01.jpg

RLE




Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?

2006-03-03 Thread David Johnson


--- Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't you have a key-in buzzer?

Nope.  A very silent car. all around!


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Re: [MBZ] wind noises

2006-03-03 Thread RELNGSON
No, not Kleb this time.

The window frame 'fix' involves running the glass down and then
some _very_ heavy-handed (by hand and/or rubber mallet) bending of
the window frame inwards towards the car with the door open.  Not
a task for the faint-hearted!

Nothing to it. When some miscreant tried to pry the RF door of my 300D open 
while it was parked in a relative's drive in San Mateo, the upper door frame 
was out a bit at the top, maybe 1/2 inch.

I rolled the window down, put my knee against the garnish rail at the rear 
edge, grabbed the top of the door frame and pulled it back into position.

Fixed.

RLE


Re: [MBZ] Boutique oil

2006-03-03 Thread RELNGSON
,Kaleb - sheesh, where the hell have you BEEN? We've had a number of
threads on the TS 5W-30 topic in the past 2 weeks. Short answer -
they are renaming 5W-40 (what we want) to Turbo Diesel Truck, and
calling the 5W-30 Truck and SUV. VERY confusing. I have not seen the
5W-40 on the shelf, at any store, as of yet. I'm still looking.

Personally, I'm waiting for M1 for Black sedans with Java leather seats. I'm 
just sure there will be a special reformulation just for that.

Hope it doesn't take too long sine my car is due for a change in 3400 miles.

RLE


Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey

Don't you have a key-in buzzer?


Nope.  A very silent car. all around!


Then yours is broken, and maybe that's all that's wrong?
Does your door have one switch in the frame, or two?
The buzzer should go if the door is opened and the key
is off but hasn't yet been removed (activating the
steering lock).

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] OkieQ 2006, ****UPDATE***

2006-03-03 Thread OK Don
It would be easier to drive to Atlanta -- Mom's 80th. BD party.

On 3/2/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 well its a once in a lifetime opportunity, you can change your other plans


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'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go



Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Cathey

So I called the PO.  He said that he sold the car to me for about what
he was into it for.  It was not running when he got it, and he removed
the clogged-up Racor filter and flushed out the fuel tank.  Then it
would start, but wouldn't shut off.  So he bypassed the vacuum system.
(No mysteries here, yet.)  The people he got it from had received the
car in lieu of money they were owed, so it probably didn't run then.
That owner was some girl described as a bit of a 'flake', and there
were three-year-old plates on the car at the time.  So, lost in the
misty past is what could have happened to the car, but it is not out
of the realm of possibility that the 'flake' utilized a bozo mechanic
who turned a running car into a white elephant.  _My_ white elephant!

So, a botched chain installation is still high on my list!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Four barrel enthusiast

2006-03-03 Thread Peter Frederick
Not actually a rich mixture, rather the charge density is so low it 
won't burn properly -- high CO and high unburned hydrocarbons from the 
very high manifold vacuum (and hence very low combustion chamber 
pressure -- usually below atmospheric).


The slow close throttle prevents some of the pollution.  On the KE-Jet, 
the fuel is shut off instead, which works better -- you get proper 
closed throttle deceleration.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] Okie Q

2006-03-03 Thread James Jetton
Wonder if people would mind posting home towns and distances to okie q just for 
entertainment.  Mine is Greensboro, NC and mapquest shows the distance to 
Claremore Ok to be a 1083 miles  lovely jaunt in the SDL.  I had a wonderful 
day due to my wonderful wife.  She knew I had taken a day off to catch up on 
some work around the house.  She let me off the hook, knowing I was antsy to 
work on the diesel.  So to make a long story short, 8:30am to 6pm.  Drilled out 
two broken lug bolts previoud owner had installed with a hammer drill.  Anyway, 
got those monsters our without buggering up the wheels.  Changed the front 
bearings, rotors, pads, shocks.  Rewired the XM radio to be less obstrusive.  
Weather was warm, had some good tunes playing, phone was turned off.  Got 
everything changed, with minor cuts and bruises.  A wonderful day!!


James Jetton
1987 300 SDL 138k
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I don;'t know about how much cheaper for other brands , but I always buy 
Nokians and can't get them in Arkansas, so I mail order them from 
www.meadowcreektire.com in colorado and they always have the lowest 
price on Nokians and I usually get them in 2-3 days.

-Robert



Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Any other source for cheap tires besides tire rack?  Getting ready to 
 order some tires from them and wondered if there was anybody cheaper out 
 there.
   




Re: [MBZ] Door seals

2006-03-03 Thread Luther Gulseth

Or an eversharp pencil, accurate as the knife and cleaner than a sharpie.

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On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:11 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:


VERY good suggestion!!

Marshall
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Better idea: Use a Sharpie and wash it off with alkihol and a Q-Tip.

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[MBZ] My Car (And what it going on with Mobil 1)

2006-03-03 Thread James Jetton
Mobil 1 15-50 is almost impossible to find in this area, I did find Shell 
Rotella T synthetic 5w-40 for 14.32 a jug.  Anyone have anything negative to 
say about shell synthetic?


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Just bring an assortment of plumbing/air fitting s  to cobble something 
to tap some pressure into the suspension to get it off the ground. 
Shouldn't be too hard to load after that.

-Robert

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Think Im going to bid on it, bet it would be a mother to load on a trailer.

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-73-Mercedes-Benz-300SEL-4-5L_W0QQitemZ4617675409QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
   




Re: [MBZ] Boutique oil

2006-03-03 Thread Loren Faeth
It is clear that the marketing clowns are running the M1 show.  It is all 
about hype (for the harley crowd)  I am seriously thinking about trying the 
NAPA or JohnnyB's oil.


At 10:27 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:

,Kaleb - sheesh, where the hell have you BEEN? We've had a number of
threads on the TS 5W-30 topic in the past 2 weeks. Short answer -
they are renaming 5W-40 (what we want) to Turbo Diesel Truck, and
calling the 5W-30 Truck and SUV. VERY confusing. I have not seen the
5W-40 on the shelf, at any store, as of yet. I'm still looking.

Personally, I'm waiting for M1 for Black sedans with Java leather seats. I'm
just sure there will be a special reformulation just for that.

Hope it doesn't take too long sine my car is due for a change in 3400 miles.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] online tire dealers

2006-03-03 Thread Loren Faeth

And cheat Jeff out of a sale?

At 09:49 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:

Send it.

Guess which car it is for?

On 3/2/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just ordered a pair from Community tire.  I think they are in St.
 Louis.  They have a price buster For $35 a tire you get S or T rated
 tires, but no choice of brand.  On their route, they deliver and if you
 don't like the Price Buster, you can send them back.  They deliver to my
 brother's shop, so I just get them there.  I am not sure if they will
 ship.  I can get the 800 Number if anyone is interested.

 Loren

 At 07:30 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:
 Any other source for cheap tires besides tire rack?  Getting ready to
 order some tires from them and wondered if there was anybody cheaper out
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Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?

2006-03-03 Thread David Johnson
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 Does your door have one switch in the frame, or two?
Only one that I can see.
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Re: [MBZ] Optima 34 Red Top?/Lights left on Buzzer

2006-03-03 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 3/2/2006 9:12:05 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Nope.  A very silent car. all around


No buzzer when key left in lock, or lights left on, usually means the time  
delay  that turns the front interior light on and off has also  failed.  To 
confirm, does the front interior light come on when the  driver's door is 
opened? 
 And it should stay on after the driver's door is  closed for a preset time 
delay.
 
NOTE:  The passenger front door switch operates the front interior  light 
directly without the combination time delay relay/buzzer.
 
The circuit already exists to warn of key in or lights left on.  You  need to 
fix it.
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 140 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


I'll try that.  I can do lots of stuff, but it ought to be
obvious by now that I don't know what I'm doing.  Yet!

-- Jim


	Not for lack of trying. There may be a chain length chart. I was  
thinking I saw a measurement but realized it was in a Suzuki MC manual.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] MY CAR (and what is going on with Mobil 1)

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 10:13 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:


I used to start my 1977 300D without a heater. My record is 14F above
freezing with conventional 15W40 diesel oil. My secret? I used to  
keep a
battery charger on the battery. If choosing between the two, a warm  
battery
is more valuable than a warm block. The glow plugs will take the  
same hit
from the battery regardless and extreme cold saps most of your  
battery's

energy.

Thanks,



	Bring your charger and dino oil up here where you can really give it  
a run for your money. 14F, childs play!! That's about where I switch  
to long sleeves. Make sure you top off exit 15 or further North so  
you get enough kero into her.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Door Hinge Grease Application

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 10:25 PM, Bill Gallagher wrote:


What other grease fittings are on a 123/126 

bill



	None but I would recommend they put some for the rear wheel bearings  
next time they fire up the 123/126 lines and send a new batch through.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-03 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 2, 2006, at 11:34 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


So, a botched chain installation is still high on my list!

-- Jim



It'll be real cool if you're right.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



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