Re: [MBZ] Okie 450SLC Frankenbenz

2006-06-04 Thread Jim Cathey
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-Mercedes-450SLC-SLC- Coupe_W0QQitemZ4646349169QQcategoryZ39405QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem 1980? With the battery under the hood? Certainly in the SL's it had long moved to the trunk, and I thought the main reason was heat. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] chance at another Benz

2006-06-04 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:30:36 -0500 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can pick up a 94 (I think) E420 (has been babied w/ money no object) for $6500. Local car. Any thoughts? You'll never be satisified with the acceleration of the 240D again. But why the drastic change? Craig

[MBZ] It's Hot

2006-06-04 Thread Bob Rentfro
So...I get up to get ready for work and I look and it's 116 degrees on my patio. No whining about how hot any of you are. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 154K Litchfield Park, AZ

Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

2006-06-04 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
I'll trade you that nice dry 116 for a sticky humid 90 any day. at least you can hide in the shade and it does some good. --Robert Bob Rentfro wrote: So...I get up to get ready for work and I look and it's 116 degrees on my patio. No whining about how hot any of you are. Bob Rentfro

Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

2006-06-04 Thread Desert Rat
Bob...how do you handle it? Why it barely reached 113 here. Speaking of.I threw a bottle of Water Wetter in today and saw the temp drop about 3 degrees as compared to yesterday. (went to 2 notches below 100, stop and go with A/C on) That stuff works! On 6/3/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] chance at another Benz

2006-06-04 Thread Sunil Hari
buy it and drive it like you stole it. But it will sound like every other car on the road. On 6/3/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:30:36 -0500 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can pick up a 94 (I think) E420 (has been babied w/ money no object) for $6500.

Re: [MBZ] chance at another Benz

2006-06-04 Thread LT Don
Wife's car. I'd keep the 240D for me. Her personality would fit an E420 -- large bust'd redhead. Unfortunately, the 240D fits MY personality perfectly (sigh). D. On 6/3/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 17:30:36 -0500 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can

Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

2006-06-04 Thread Bob Rentfro
Water Wetter rocks. Back in the day the treads on that used to be as good as the oil treads. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

2006-06-04 Thread BillR
July 4th a couple of years ago my then AF Reserve daughter in Qatar reported 145 degrees. My eyeballs would melt. Son in Kuwait says 112 is normal. 'But it's a dry heat' - yeah, like in an oven. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob

[MBZ] '85 190E on CL -- Olympia

2006-06-04 Thread Zeitgeist
Hey, if any of you up here in the NW are interested in a cheap W201, I've taken a quick look at this one. It's beat, but can probably be had for way less than the asking price. I have pics of the (trashed) grey tex interior, if anyone cares to see them. It doesn't currently run, but I think it

Re: [MBZ] chance at another Benz

2006-06-04 Thread kevin kraly
buy it and drive it like you stole it. But it will sound like every other car on the road. Exactly, Sunil! Oh, it's a gasser? So what, but when it's a diesel, YEAH! Klatta Klatta Klatta Klatta Klatta and no EFI to deal with! Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela

Re: [MBZ] '85 190E on CL -- Olympia

2006-06-04 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Casey, Is it a 5 speed...?.. What's with the spoiler? and it looks like there is a badge on the right side of the trunk? On Jun 3, 2006, at 6:37 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: Hey, if any of you up here in the NW are interested in a cheap W201, I've taken a quick look at this one. It's beat,

Re: [MBZ] '85 190E on CL -- Olympia

2006-06-04 Thread Zeitgeist
Sorry, it's a slushbox. The spoiler looks like a 16v knock-off. The badge on the right side of the trunk says 2.3, which is correct for that model of 190E. Black w/grey interior is a nice combo, but it's just plain beat. On 6/3/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Casey, Is it a

Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

2006-06-04 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
145...that's insane! and I thought 125 going through Death Valley a few years ago in the middle of summer was bad ( actually it was nice and cool inside the van with both AC's cranking, but when we stepped out to take pictures the first time, we both scalded our hands on the door handles and I

Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

2006-06-04 Thread Luther Gulseth
or an August 100+ On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:24:42 -0500, Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll trade you that nice dry 116 for a sticky humid 90 any day. at least you can hide in the shade and it does some good. --Robert Bob Rentfro wrote: So...I get up to get ready for

Re: [MBZ] Okie 450SLC Frankenbenz

2006-06-04 Thread OK Don
I think it has Euro bumpers? That would explain the battery up front. The battery was moved to the trunk to make room for the ACC servo (that we all love). Wife will not be happy, but I'll have to at least look at this one -- On 6/3/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] chance at another Benz

2006-06-04 Thread OK Don
You're still just talking about it? Have your BIL go with you to check it out. Take your check book and Debbie (you won't let her drive it if you drive it first). On 6/3/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wife's car. I'd keep the 240D for me. Her personality would fit an E420 -- large bust'd

Re: [MBZ] Branson

2006-06-04 Thread James Jetton
It's called reciprocity, and most states practice it. It is the sharing of motor vehicle information, driving infractions, and other information you may consider minor until you try to register a vehicle in another state or get a permit to move one, then they sayoh, Mr. Striplin, we seem

Re: [MBZ] chance at another Benz

2006-06-04 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 6/3/2006 3:31:03 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can pick up a 94 (I think) E420 (has been babied w/ money no object) for $6500. Local car. Any thoughts? No, I won't give you the phone number of the seller. Don, The price is right,

Re: [MBZ] trades galore...

2006-06-04 Thread redghost
That is a very pretty car. On Friday, June 2, 2006, at 09:24 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote: So, tomorrow I will purchase a late 50's MB (attached picture) and trade it for a rebuilt OM617 (w/20kmi on the clock) for the Blue Bomber. Man, I love the bargining business.. -- Luther KB5QHU

Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

2006-06-04 Thread redghost
There is a BLUE version now instead of just the red. Blue is for use in DIESEL. I have two bottles. One is being put in Gump, the other for the e300d when I change coolant. On Saturday, June 3, 2006, at 04:53 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Water Wetter rocks. Back in the day the treads on that

Re: [MBZ] '85 190E on CL -- Olympia

2006-06-04 Thread redghost
Damn, I may have to bite. BiL and I can hammer that out and get it sold for mucho dinero, or maybe he wants to drive. On Saturday, June 3, 2006, at 06:37 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: Hey, if any of you up here in the NW are interested in a cheap W201, I've taken a quick look at this one. It's beat,

[MBZ] 114/115 stick wanted?

2006-06-04 Thread redghost
1972 Mercedes 220 DIESEL sedan, stick, Low miles on rebuilt motor, completely new brake system, new master and slave clutch cylinders, Very nice condition for it's age but not perfect. a few small cosmetic issues and a paint job before next winter would be a good idea for this classic. Last

Re: [MBZ] Branson

2006-06-04 Thread Zoltan Finks
James wrote: It's called reciprocity, and most states practice it. It is the sharing of motor vehicle information, driving infractions, and other information... I think that's what my friend was talking about. - brian -Robert wrote: ( never once was I actually speeding when pulled

Re: [MBZ] '85 190E on CL -- Olympia

2006-06-04 Thread John Berryman
On Jun 3, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: Sorry, it's a slushbox. The spoiler looks like a 16v knock-off. The badge on the right side of the trunk says 2.3, which is correct for that model of 190E. Black w/grey interior is a nice combo, but it's just plain beat. Anyone want to

Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

2006-06-04 Thread BillR
We agree on that. She would get up at 3:30 or so to work out because it was still cool - about 110 or so. Ever wonder why different parts of the world made progress in different ways at different times - A few months of that each year would change some things here also. Son said that the low

[MBZ] MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/

2006-06-04 Thread l02turner
Howdy - Tried to open http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/ but ai get a access is forbidden. I thought I had been in before but don;t recall doing anything different. Is it still possible to get into this site? Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo) A Blood Test for your oil -

Re: [MBZ] chance at another Benz

2006-06-04 Thread LT Don
I was wondering about the biodegradable wiring on this. Anyone have data on how many years after manufacture this starts to happen? On 6/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I That would be the era of the rotting underhood wiring harness, probably medium expensive on that model.

[MBZ] Paint Codes

2006-06-04 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Don't remember who was looking for MB Paint Codes, but found this site. http://www.landiss.com/paintcodes.htm Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ

Re: [MBZ] Porsche in PnP

2006-06-04 Thread Mitch Haley
redghost wrote: Axles from a Montero and the tranfercase should fit under the Porsche. That is a mid engine though, so might have to transplant a Fiero engine instead. There were a couple in the yard that would be good donors. I believe the engine/transaxle in the Citation is identical to

Re: [MBZ] 114/115 stick wanted?

2006-06-04 Thread Sunil Hari
I was looking for one, but not a 30-year-old car for $3000. On 6/4/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1972 Mercedes 220 DIESEL sedan, stick, Low miles on rebuilt motor, completely new brake system, new master and slave clutch cylinders, Very nice condition for it's age but not perfect. a

Re: [MBZ] trades galore...

2006-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have receipts for all those things for an engine I have sitting in my garage as well, does that make the engine good, no. What it tom ready to be rid of, the engine or the ponton? Tom has a bad habit of not follow up on deals. He has called me on a few different occasions wanting to deal,

Re: [MBZ] Branson

2006-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I had joked right afterwards that the next thing they would come up with would be a credit card machine you could use to pay right there in the cop car. Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: The driving record is what really sucks these days about getting a bogus ticket. I drove a semi for years and

Re: [MBZ] CA-spec '85 300D transmission?

2006-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, forgot about the starter deal. That would be the killer of it. The throttle cable is on the passenger side on both though. Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: that Im not 100% sure of. It wont have to be from a turbo though, the 190D/E etc all used the 722.4, which should

Re: [MBZ] chance at another Benz

2006-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Just depends on how many miles are on it, what kind of shape its in etc. You will have some expensive computer boxes on that car for the engine that can fail. Its also only going to get 20 tops highway miles if you keep your foot out of it. Oh, and you have to burn premium in it. Otherwise,

Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

2006-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
that sucks, hope your AC works good. Bob Rentfro wrote: So...I get up to get ready for work and I look and it's 116 degrees on my patio. No whining about how hot any of you are. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 154K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.striplin.net For

Re: [MBZ] chance at another Benz

2006-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
oh, about 10 or so. LT Don wrote: I was wondering about the biodegradable wiring on this. Anyone have data on how many years after manufacture this starts to happen? On 6/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I That would be the era of the rotting underhood wiring harness,

Re: [MBZ] Porsche in PnP

2006-06-04 Thread Ed Booher
On 6/4/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the engine/transaxle in the Citation is identical to the Fiero. After the Fiero came out, I figured that just about any FWD angine/trans/ subframe/suspension could be used to make a mid-engine car. How about The interesting thing to

Re: [MBZ] Jeep Adding Diesel Grand Cherokee

2006-06-04 Thread Robert Massmann
When is a new car reasonable? The last new car purchase of mine was 1991. 13 grand for a Honda Accord LX. Regards, Robert Massmann Wilmington, Ohio 87 190D 2.5 Turbo 255K? 85 300CD 327K 82 300D 327K 81 VW Rabbit Pickup 210K (Diesel) - Original Message - From: kevin kraly [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Branson

2006-06-04 Thread Russ Williams
Brian, If you don't pay. The issuing state WILL notify your state DMV and they will put a Revocation/Suspension Tag on your license DAHIK. When you go to renew you will have to pay the fine at an exorbitant price i.e. They add a handling fee to the original fine. BTDT. Russ W. Zoltan Finks

Re: [MBZ] '85 190E on CL -- Olympia

2006-06-04 Thread Zeitgeist
Needs a complete dash, windshield and driver's seat bottom. Like I said, it's beat. Here's some pics, if they're not stripped from the list: Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (215k) '84 300D (213k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg

[MBZ] Cheap MB Semi Tractor

2006-06-04 Thread Rick Knoble
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-Tractor-Project_W0QQitemZ4644798274QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Ends soon. No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jun 04 17:00:59 2006 Received: from

Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

2006-06-04 Thread dave walton
Do the military vehicles have AC? -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 On 6/3/06, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: July 4th a couple of years ago my then AF Reserve daughter in Qatar reported 145 degrees. My eyeballs would melt. Son in Kuwait says 112 is normal. 'But it's a dry heat' - yeah, like in an

Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

2006-06-04 Thread BillR
They are [were, in her case] both mechanics, so they don't drive them, they just work on them. The shops are not air conditioned, though. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 2:43 PM To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Branson

2006-06-04 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Just give them time, before you know it, they will have little handheld tablets similar to what ups has with a card swiper on it linked to satellite in the car . You know, since they're going to run it like a business anyway, they could at least give stamps :-) That would at least take some

Re: [MBZ] chance at another Benz

2006-06-04 Thread Marshall Booth
LT Don wrote: I was wondering about the biodegradable wiring on this. Anyone have data on how many years after manufacture this starts to happen? Ten years is about average for the life of the wiring harnesses, but there's a wide range. It's a very NICE car, but not one that should be

Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

2006-06-04 Thread Marshall Booth
redghost wrote: There is a BLUE version now instead of just the red. Blue is for use in DIESEL. I have two bottles. One is being put in Gump, the other for the e300d when I change coolant. The blue is for use in engine that have cavitation problems. Mercedes diesels (at least thru the

Re: [MBZ] 114/115 stick wanted?

2006-06-04 Thread OK Don
Yet another claim to be Last yr Mercedes did everything by hand -- and in the middle of a model's production run that went from '68 to'76. On 6/4/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking for one, but not a 30-year-old car for $3000. On 6/4/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/

2006-06-04 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - Tried to open http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/ but ai get a access is forbidden. I thought I had been in before but don;t recall doing anything different. Is it still possible to get into this site? Several people on another list have complained to Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] chance at another Benz

2006-06-04 Thread OK Don
Call Rusty in the morning and get a price for the engine wiring harness. Then find out when it was last replaced on the car you might be lucky, since you indicated that it's well cared for. On 6/4/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering about the biodegradable wiring on this.

Re: [MBZ] 1980 450SLC for sale in Memphis

2006-06-04 Thread Donald Snook
OK Don wrote: Donald, you continue to miss the point - one Mercedes is NOT ENOUGH. You need the SEL for hauling people around. You need the SLC for fun and class! Even though they are Mercedes', you need an extra car when you are relying on cars this old for your primary transportation.

Re: [MBZ] 1980 450SLC for sale in Memphis

2006-06-04 Thread OK Don
Agreed - your parking challenge is even wurse than mine. I had room to widen the drive on both sides, and can now park four cars in the drive. Of course, that means one is still in the street untill our son takes it off the school in the fall. If I buy that 450SLC in OKC

Re: [MBZ] Okie 450SLC Frankenbenz

2006-06-04 Thread Jim Cathey
The battery was moved to the trunk to make room for the ACC servo (that we all love). I disagree. Our '76 SL, for example has the rear battery and no ACC at all. I maintain that the battery was driven to the rear by the underhood heat issues of the early underhood catalytic converters (in 75

Re: [MBZ] Okie 450SLC Frankenbenz

2006-06-04 Thread OK Don
Could be. However, the changes introduced in '77 are listed as - * Catalytic converters moved downstream. Catalytic converters moved back beneath the floor * Climate-control system introduced (Type 1) * Battery moved to trunk I would think that if ACC was offered as an option, and

Re: [MBZ] It's Hot

2006-06-04 Thread Bob Rentfro
It's only 115 today. Don't think I'll need a sweater, though. My AC is doing fine. I have a 65 degree delta T, but the only issue is that it that once in awhile it still kinda does that failing into a mid position where I get the cold air out of all the cabin orificies. Bob Rentfro -

Re: [MBZ] Jeep Adding Diesel Grand Cherokee

2006-06-04 Thread Bob Rentfro
What is reasonable anymore? Houses are $400K, cars are $45K, fuel is $3.10, a round of golf is $135, a soda out of a machine at a hotel is $2, etc, etc, etc. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Robert Massmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] trades galore...

2006-06-04 Thread Luther Gulseth
engine to me, ponton to Tom. Engine came from wrecked 116. On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 10:08:03 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have receipts for all those things for an engine I have sitting in my garage as well, does that make the engine good, no. What it tom ready to be rid

Re: [MBZ] Jeep Adding Diesel Grand Cherokee

2006-06-04 Thread John Peterson
I never owned a new car- but I've had 16 used ones. If I had a new one I wouldn't be rigging a piece of string to my shutoff valve and feeding it through the radiator grill so that I can shut the car off without opening the hood (my shutoff valve is spoiled.) But new cars are no fun, they

Re: [MBZ] MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/

2006-06-04 Thread Luther Gulseth
Then the Ebayers will show up with the copied disks.. On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 15:44:14 -0500, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - Tried to open http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/ but ai get a access is forbidden. I thought I had been in before but don;t

Re: [MBZ] Porsche in PnP

2006-06-04 Thread Mitch Haley
The interesting thing to note is that the Fiero was a quick engineer vehicle. Lots of parts bin engineering in that one. Pontiac wanted a plastic 2-seat sports car to compete with the Corvette, but could never gain approval from GM for that. So they came up with a sporty commuter car, with

Re: [MBZ] Jeep Adding Diesel Grand Cherokee

2006-06-04 Thread Mitch Haley
What is reasonable anymore? A local dealer advertised a Hyundai Accent for $6500 after a $5000 rebate last week, that seemed reasonable to me. (the last new car I bought was about $4800 before taxes) Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Branson

2006-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: Just give them time, before you know it, they will have little handheld tablets similar to what ups has with a card swiper on it linked to satellite in the car . You know, since they're going to run it like a business anyway, they could at least give stamps

Re: [MBZ] MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/

2006-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So which email list might that be? Thats quite a shame that people would be that way on such a list. Marshall Booth wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - Tried to open http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/ but ai get a access is forbidden. I thought I had been in before but don;t recall doing

Re: [MBZ] 1980 450SLC for sale in Memphis

2006-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So you going to buy that thing? If not, I might. OK Don wrote: Agreed - your parking challenge is even wurse than mine. I had room to widen the drive on both sides, and can now park four cars in the drive. Of course, that means one is still in the street untill our son takes it off the school

Re: [MBZ] '88 126 Hesitation Problems and Intermittent Hard Start

2006-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Sounds like the throttle position sensor to me on the hesitation. As for the idle deal, sounds like you are talking about the idle air valve that you had replaced. Mark E. Peneguy wrote: Friends: Recently, I started having a problem with hesitation when I accelerate from a dead stop.

Re: [MBZ] trades galore...

2006-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
o, well you do know that 116 version is going to have to be modified a little to fit in the 123, and it will have 10 less hp. Luther Gulseth wrote: engine to me, ponton to Tom. Engine came from wrecked 116. On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 10:08:03 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: