Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be)Ford Diesels?

2007-01-12 Thread Bob Rentfro
Curt mentioned: Honda has a brilliant diesel marketing campaign in the UK based largely on an American radio personality... Whom is that? Bob R

Re: [MBZ] Attachments...

2007-01-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It was setup that way, and it will soon be that way again. Jim Cathey wrote: I thought we had this list set so that attachments, such as pictures or PDF's, etc., would be squirreled off to the side and replaced with a link. My mail reader was just choked for five minutes downloading Clay's

Re: [MBZ] Rubber bumper insert 240D

2007-01-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
There is a tab that usually is broken off by now. In order to keep it from sliding around, you just run a sheet metal screw into it. John W. Reames III wrote: Speaking of bumpers, how are the plastic pieces behind the rubber strip on an 85 123.133 (300Dt) held together in the center? -j.

Re: [MBZ] Studded tires and 300sd fuel mileage

2007-01-12 Thread Tony Wirtel
Tony Wirtel wrote: Just resurrected an '85 300sd that has studded snows on the back. Anyone have a ballpark figure for how much MPG running studded tires costs? I have no idea- am only running the car for a few weeks to get to know it before I sell it. Tony Wirtel 300sd, 300e Four

[MBZ] Cold starting

2007-01-12 Thread Jim Cathey
It's 11 degrees (F) right now, the Frankenheap (115 200D) started right up with less than a second of cranking after the cigar lighter (salt shaker?) gizmo was glowing cherry red. (That takes 10-15 seconds.) Delo 400 and some wretched POS too-small used battery of unknown vintage from U-Pull,

Re: [MBZ] Cold starting

2007-01-12 Thread Peter Frederick
Let that resistance element get yellow hot and it will ALWAYS start right up -- 30 - 90 seconds, if you can hold the damned knob out that long... Peter

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars?

2007-01-12 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hey Kaleb, I think it's about time to remind fellow listers to CHANGE the SUBJECT:! We are very far afield from what shows above! FEDS have nothing to do with cold starts, etc I'm in a DBR mode on all these Subjects... Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jan 11, 2007, at 6:50 PM, Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] Rubber bumper insert 240D

2007-01-12 Thread Allan Streib
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a tab that usually is broken off by now. In order to keep it from sliding around, you just run a sheet metal screw into it. On my 300d the front bumper rubber keeps detaching on the drivers side. I've fixed it at least three times, getting

Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD update and ACC system

2007-01-12 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Kevin - the main exhaust pipe connects to the back of the turbo with a 3-bolt flange (10mm, and not easy access unless you have a good assortment of tools. Use plenty of PB blaster!). The pipe then goes aft and sharply down, with the expansion section about 1 foot back, then the pipe

Re: [MBZ] Ford Diesels?

2007-01-12 Thread kevin kraly
Trampas, Good choices on vehicles! For minivans, my parents have a '05 Chrysler TC with the stow 'n go rear seating which has been quite handy on more than a few occasions. The Odyssey and Sienna are much better vans though, IMO. I currently have the '06 Dodge q-cab with the Cummins engine,

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be) Ford Diesels?

2007-01-12 Thread kevin kraly
I can't wait until we see the MB powered Grand Cherokee (which the MB dealers who have the proper tools won't be allowed to touch!) I guess it's just like the Dodge/Cummins situation. Only Dodge dealers can work on the Cummins engines, not the Cummins certified service centers who, no doubt,

Re: [MBZ] Servicing Diesels?

2007-01-12 Thread Werner Fehlauer
So who services the M-B CDI engines in the Mercedes-Benz/Freightliner/Dodge Sprinter vans (not to mention the many Class C motor homes built on that chassis)? I suspect that no fancy M-B dealer would want to have one in his service lane, but the engine is definitely the same as used in the

[MBZ] SDL update

2007-01-12 Thread Luther
So, installed a new thermostat tonight and filled up the coolant system. After I burped the system, I took it on a mostly interstate drive of about 1 hour. The temp ran mostly between 90-105, and was never above 105. At idle, there is no constant building of pressure that causes the coolant

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be)Ford Diesels?

2007-01-12 Thread Tjohn
Garrison Keillor, the guy from A Prarie Home Companion on a lot of public radio stations. You can find the commerical on the net if you poke around a bit. On 1/11/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt mentioned: Honda has a brilliant diesel marketing campaign in the UK based largely

[MBZ] rubbing compound on hood

2007-01-12 Thread Allan Streib
My 300D was, at some point in its past, resprayed. It was clearly a mask and spray kind of job -- the body moulding, etc was not removed but it does not look bad, really. The exception is the hood, which has lost all of its gloss. The paint is a metalic silver -- I'd like to try using a rubbing

[MBZ] exhaust expansion pipe (83 300SD)

2007-01-12 Thread kevin kraly
Thanks, Werner, for the info on the exhaust pieces! Did yours have soot all around the leaky section so that you knew exactly where it was? I do have a set of jackstands and ramps as well. Will either of these get the car high enough to do the job? I had to buy some ratchet extensions to

[MBZ] CHange subject lines, was Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars?

2007-01-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, we need to start watching the subject lines. People who are not interested will delete things they probably would want to read if the subject is not changed. Chuck Landenberger wrote: Hey Kaleb, I think it's about time to remind fellow listers to CHANGE the SUBJECT:! We are very far

Re: [MBZ] Rubber bumper insert 240D

2007-01-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The end tab breaks off and lets the plastic strip move. Just put one screw in the end where teh broken off tab is, will work fine. Allan Streib wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a tab that usually is broken off by now. In order to keep it from sliding around,

Re: [MBZ] Rubber bumper insert 240D

2007-01-12 Thread Alan Clarke
I said to Hell with it and used 3M yellow weatherstrip adhesive. Alan 85 Turbo 123 MICHAEL ESH wrote: What is the correct way to insert the rubber bumper pad into the bumper on a 1983 240 D. Thanks, Mike in Michigan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] exhaust expansion pipe (83 300SD)

2007-01-12 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Kevin - I found that the crack didn't show hardly any soot, as the metal is smooth and the crack just a hairline. I had to remove the air filter and the filter mounting bracket. I used an offset 10mm to get leverage on the nuts, and a universal adapter for the hard to reach parts. I found

Re: [MBZ] replacing the heater fan in a 1979 240D?

2007-01-12 Thread M.Afzaal.Khan
Trampas the bushes for Mercedes motors are of a softer material to avoid the bedding in period. one place with info and availability is www mercedessource' that I read about. Regards mak - I did this once on a W126, got brushes from auto parts store that were bigger and then filed

Re: [MBZ] exhaust expansion pipe (83 300SD)

2007-01-12 Thread kevin kraly
Thanks again! Would it be best to get at the air filter nuts and the top flange fasteners with the car on the ground, and then go for the lower ones once it's raised? I don't have an garage with an indoor lift (the garage at our next house WILL be equipped with one), and it will be heated as

Re: [MBZ] Rubber bumper insert 240D

2007-01-12 Thread John W. Reames III
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: There is a tab that usually is broken off by now. In order to keep it from sliding around, you just run a sheet metal screw into it. Thanks! -j.

Re: [MBZ] Servicing Diesels?

2007-01-12 Thread John W. Reames III
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Werner Fehlauer wrote: So who services the M-B CDI engines in the Mercedes-Benz/Freightliner/Dodge Sprinter vans (not to mention the many Class C motor homes built on that chassis)? I suspect that no fancy M-B dealer would want to have one in his service lane, but the

Re: [MBZ] The Motor Stadt in Stuttgart, Germany

2007-01-12 Thread Jeff Zedic
Nice Photo Mathieu! For those of you that don't want to register with the Times, I've copied and pastd the article to the list: Jeff Zedic London, UK THE taxi driver, a middle-aged man from Indiahttp://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/asia/india/overview.html?inline=nyt-geo, wasted no time as

Re: [MBZ] The Motor Stadt in Stuttgart, Germany

2007-01-12 Thread MICHAEL ESH
That is a beautiful picture, thansk - Original Message - From: Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Motor Stadt in Stuttgart, Germany Rich et al, That car (#18) is a

Re: [MBZ] SDL update

2007-01-12 Thread Tom Hargrave
I did the same thing about 3 years ago decided to pull the head when it got worse. About 130,000 miles later, it has not gotten worse and I still have not pulled the head. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars?

2007-01-12 Thread Curt Raymond
What, you haven't seen it yet? Garrison Keilor(sp?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMWp5D2ulfA I like the song, the animation and the concept... Never mind that its basically saying the same as we do, that modern diesels don't have to be smoking clattering pieces of crap... -Curt Date: Thu,

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars?

2007-01-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That would be a great vehicle. If you are really looking for one, I would check out www.gm-diesel.com for things to watch out for. Curt Raymond wrote: Interesting. My wife and I have been looking at a diesel Blazer 6.2 lately -Curt Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:50:32 -0600 From: Kaleb C.

Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars?

2007-01-12 Thread L. Mark Finch
And after you've assimilated that catchy little tune, have a look at this: http://eclectech.co.uk/parp.php On Jan 12, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: What, you haven't seen it yet? Garrison Keillor(sp?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMWp5D2ulfA I like the song, the animation and

Re: [MBZ] exhaust expansion pipe (83 300SD)

2007-01-12 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:53:38 -0800 kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (the garage at our next house WILL be equipped with one), and it will be heated as well. Sounds like a plan! If I'm lucky, it MAY just be one of the donuts leaking, Unfortunately, you won't know until you get in

Re: [MBZ] exhaust expansion pipe (83 300SD)

2007-01-12 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Craig et al: The museum and original workshop in Manheim clearly has a large sign that has the name as Carl. Also, the lapel pins they sell in the gift shops all say C.Benzcie. Ergo, Herr Benz's fist name is Carl, not Karl, which would be the more usual German spelling. No such problem with

Re: [MBZ] YOU PEOPLE BEHAVE

2007-01-12 Thread andrew strasfogel
...said not to blow my nose for awhile... I really love a dentist with a SENSE OF HUMOR. On 1/11/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I had my first one pulled about 6 years ago, it cost 300 some dollars. Just had the one done because I didnt have insurance at the time, and it

[MBZ] Electrical Motor repair

2007-01-12 Thread andrew strasfogel
I'm currently at home recovering from (probably successful) back surgery and left behind at work the name of a person (in the Midwest, IIRC) who repairs small electrical motors. I got this info from someone on the list (of course) a couple months ago. I am looking to fix my W111 coupe wiper

[MBZ] Part OT Turbo boost percentage and Turbo Talk

2007-01-12 Thread Zoltan Finks
Nothing but fun: I was looking through a photography magazine from the mid-80's yesterday, and happened upon a two-page, beautiful advertisement for the Chrysler Laser - remember those? Along with claiming, and having little pictures to prove, that it out-slalomed the Porsche 944, out-braked the

[MBZ] OT: need source of late model Nissan truck salvage parts

2007-01-12 Thread Allan Streib
See subject. If anyone has knowledge please email me (off-list is fine). Thanks. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230

Re: [MBZ] Part OT Turbo boost percentage and Turbo Talk

2007-01-12 Thread jwreames
Wiki claims the NA version is 79 or 87 HP and the Turbo is 121 or 123 HP, so between ~40% and 55%... Torque is also kicked up QUITE a bit... I want to say 75-100% -j. -- John Reames 1985 300d (223K Gerta) 1991 Cherokee (149K the fishbowl) 1999 E300Dt (140K Hans) (the leaky one) 1999 E300Dt

Re: [MBZ] Part OT Turbo boost percentage and Turbo Talk

2007-01-12 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wiki claims the NA version is 79 or 87 HP and the Turbo is 121 or 123 HP, so between ~40% and 55%... Torque is also kicked up QUITE a bit... I want to say 75-100% -j. Torque increased by 45% Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh

Re: [MBZ] Rubber bumper insert 240D

2007-01-12 Thread MICHAEL ESH
Thanks to all who responded. I now have a front bumper with the correct rubber strip installed. Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rubber

Re: [MBZ] Rear Brake Job - 1983 240 D

2007-01-12 Thread MICHAEL ESH
Thanks to all who helped. I have pads and rotors on the rear. The parking brakes were fine, I just cleaned them up a bit and adjusted and we are back in business. Mike - Original Message - From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Rear Brake Job - 1983 240 D

2007-01-12 Thread Allan Streib
MICHAEL ESH [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have pads and rotors on the rear. The parking brakes were fine, I just cleaned them up a bit and adjusted and we are back in business. I always wondered, for a car with rear disks, how would the parking brakes ever really wear out? All they do is hold

Re: [MBZ] diesel blazer

2007-01-12 Thread Curt Raymond
I like 'em because the 6.2 is stupid simple, like the older MB diesels. Its known for longevity and reasonable economy. Sure its not real powerful but I don't need to pull 10,000# with it. The early '80s Blazer chassis gave a reasonably comfortable ride too. -Curt Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007

Re: [MBZ] Turbo hp boost percentage

2007-01-12 Thread RELNGSON
so how many percent does the turbo raise the typical five-cylinder MB diesel The hp as listed in the owner's manual for my '78 300D was 77 versus the first year '78 300SD's 124hp which is about 62%. And if you are thinking that this 62% increase could be applied to some turbo

Re: [MBZ] Rear Brake Job - 1983 240 D

2007-01-12 Thread Werner Fehlauer
E-brake shoes can disintegrate, dry out and crumble due to years of no use, and also can become useless if impregnated with grease from failed bearing seals. They do rarely wear out, as you said. The actuating cables and linkage can also fail due to rust and abuse, rendering the E-brake

[MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-12 Thread LarryT
I saw this on the MB Classic's page - I assume it;s assume it's an early editorial comment that was never updated - see for yourself - From the original automobile, Karl Benz's Patent Motorwagen in 1886, to the Model Year 2002 lineup, our products have always been crafted in accordance with a

Re: [MBZ] Turbo hp boost percentage

2007-01-12 Thread Werner Fehlauer
I would hope that no one would try to simply bolt on the turbo parts of a newer engine to the block of an older one, and expect it to live very long. That extra mechanical loading of bearings and rods may turn the thing into an I.E.D., and the additional thermo load will surely do bad things

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-12 Thread Werner Fehlauer
LarryT - IMO, if D-C tried to make their new cars with the same attention to detail and hand-craftsmanship of the 70s and 80s, they would pricing their cars at least twice as high as they presently are. In 1990, a 300D stickered out for around $40k, while the 2007 model is just over $50k. In

Re: [MBZ] Rear Brake Job - 1983 240 D

2007-01-12 Thread John M McIntosh
On Jan 12, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Werner Fehlauer wrote: E-brake shoes can disintegrate, dry out and crumble due to years of no use, and also can become useless if impregnated with grease from failed bearing seals. They do rarely wear out, as you said. The actuating cables and linkage can

Re: [MBZ] Rear Brake Job - 1983 240 D

2007-01-12 Thread OK Don
Wife, daughters, etc. - the list goes on - Also popular is leaving E-brake on then drive, which causes lots of parts to be replaced, don't ask my wife about this... John -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will

[MBZ] UNconfirmed Diesel Runon and Bus Accident

2007-01-12 Thread Zoltan Finks
Was just overhearing the TV and a news brief stated that there was a bus accident in PA (involving the thing rolling unmanned? - need more info). The driver said he or she tried to shut off the ignition but could not stop the bus. Brian

Re: [MBZ] UNconfirmed Diesel Runon and Bus Accident

2007-01-12 Thread David Brodbeck
Zoltan Finks wrote: Was just overhearing the TV and a news brief stated that there was a bus accident in PA (involving the thing rolling unmanned? - need more info). The driver said he or she tried to shut off the ignition but could not stop the bus. Can happen. Some diesels have an

Re: [MBZ] Turbo hp boost percentage

2007-01-12 Thread jwreames
Don't forget that the newer engines, such as the om606 are possessed of (perhaps possessed by is more accurate) a computer-controlled wastegate, so it will be difficult to bump the boost. I seem to recall that the VNT's do a little better job at lighter loads. I also seem to recall that all

Re: [MBZ] Rear Brake Job - 1983 240 D

2007-01-12 Thread Zoltan Finks
Allan, is there any way around having to give one's phone number and full name before being able to browse that site? Brian On 1/10/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a pressure bleeder I bought from www.germanautoparts.com and I would never bleed any other way after having