Re: [MBZ] 911 erl

2007-03-31 Thread RELNGSON
The old 911 needs the heavier M1 - 15W50 preferably. 0W40 works for '90-present but before that the tolerances are just not tight enough. The M1 website recommends 0W40 for all the Porsches regardless of year. Let me know if you have any questions or comments - My question is, where does

[MBZ] CL W123 Gas Coupe In St. Louis

2007-03-31 Thread Rick Knoble
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/301778505.html Surely someone on this list needs this Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 31 00:38:26 2007 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.185]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63)

Re: [MBZ] OkieQ Dates

2007-03-31 Thread Curt Raymond
April 12-20th. I dunno how my work schedule will go but drop me a note if you can get out. -Curt Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:56:32 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OkieQ Dates To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] sorting by subject line?

2007-03-31 Thread RELNGSON
Taking Digest #129 as one glowing example, there were five posts out of nineteen using the subject line OkieQ Dates. Three by Rentfro, one each by Cathey and McCann. Not one of them had anything to do with the subject line. Tell me again how sorting these by any of the suggested methods would

[MBZ] Notes from the field: 123 vacuum issues

2007-03-31 Thread Zeitgeist
So, my el cheapo '84 300D has become a hot commodity for our 21 yr old daughter who recently had her parked Volvo 7-series totalled by an inattentive driver down in San Diego. This car has been driven almost daily by my wife, but has been severely neglected by me, due to its unfortunate

Re: [MBZ] sorting by subject line?

2007-03-31 Thread OK Don
By reading the posts in sequence, you see the topic change from the date/location to when good food is available, to quantities of tomatoes, etc. to which varieties to grow, back to holding the party during harvest instead of early June, etc. I guess the posts don't seem quite as random and

Re: [MBZ] $2500 TD

2007-03-31 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
The old-Only needs a starter ploy My .02 Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 9:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] OkieQ Dates

2007-03-31 Thread Mitch Haley
LT Don wrote: Don't even ask me about zucchini! The late Erma Bombeck suggested having the kids play softball with the excess zukes. (use the zukes for bats) Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: 123 vacuum issues

2007-03-31 Thread Scott Ritchey
The vacuum diagrams in the shop manual (see 80-260 and 80-900/901) are pretty good. Get a mitivac and a couple of golf tees. Then lift the carpet under the passenger's feet and check the circuits one at a time against the diagram. As I recall, all the circuits except the left rear door lock can

Re: [MBZ] columbus CL 300CD

2007-03-31 Thread Luther
That's a STEAL! Fix/shine/clean it up and it'll bring 6k plus on ePay Luther On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:16:13 -0600, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/303218942.html any takers? I'll check it out for anyone. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery, season finale

2007-03-31 Thread Jim Cathey
There's still a lot of stud noise. I'm starting to wonder if it's creeping in around the semi-loose window, or worse yet, channeling up through the door to the window from the big rusty holes in the bottom. Will try sealing the glass in its channel. But tomorrow is the last day I can legally

Re: [MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

2007-03-31 Thread Russ Williams
Thanks Rick, But those are the Engine Compartment Diagrams. I need the one for the Cabin. Russ W. Rick Knoble wrote: Hi Gang, Anybody have the PDF of the Vacuum Diagram for the 123 body. I'm try to track down a massive leak on a buddies 84 300D. Yeah. Click this link and then click on

Re: [MBZ] quick question bout '88 E300??

2007-03-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:37:16 -0500 E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Everyone, Was the crossmember under the front hood, on top of the rad factory painted to match the exterior? On every MB I've seen, yes. Also, were the inside bolts holding on the finders painted over? Yes. The car

Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: 123 vacuum issues

2007-03-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:15:48 -0700 Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it needs lots of front end work, 'cause it chews through tires at an alarming rate (inners wear really quickly). An alignment might help enough to make it tolerable. Craig

Re: [MBZ] OkieQ Dates

2007-03-31 Thread Bob Rentfro
10-4 - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OkieQ Dates April 12-20th. I dunno how my work schedule will go but drop me a note if you can get out. -Curt Date: Fri,

Re: [MBZ] sorting by subject line?

2007-03-31 Thread Bob Rentfro
I will make an effort to watch my subject line. Rentfro - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] sorting by subject line? Taking Digest #129 as one glowing example, there were five posts out of

Re: [MBZ] quick question bout '88 E300??

2007-03-31 Thread E M
Thanks Craig. I think the car may have had a little paint blow'n in to cover some stone chips, but I can't find any sign of damage due to an accident. I ended up buying it anyway. :-) Ed On 30/03/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:37:16 -0500 E M [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

2007-03-31 Thread LT Don
That is in the air conditioning section, I think. On 3/30/07, Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Rick, But those are the Engine Compartment Diagrams. I need the one for the Cabin. Russ W. -- http://don.homelinux.net/~don/

Re: [MBZ] M1 15W-50 at Costco

2007-03-31 Thread LarryT
Allan wrote:follow your owner's manual recommendations -- not Mobil's -- for oil weight Exactly Allan, well said - Mobil's priority is to sell oil not worrying about old cars like ours. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results

Re: [MBZ] columbus CL 300CD

2007-03-31 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
A 79 would be non turbo-right? When was the first turbo CD? This is tempting. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007

Re: [MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

2007-03-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
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Re: [MBZ] CL W123 Gas Coupe In St. Louis

2007-03-31 Thread tom savage
Rick Knoble wrote: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/301778505.html Wow. This car seems to be more black market than gray market. Doesn't appear to have a DOT tag in the door jamb, metric instrumentation, fire extinguisher still under the seat. Very cool. Wonder what its story is.

Re: [MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

2007-03-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:58:44 -0600 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent a ZIP file of all of my vacuum system information last night, but since it's 607 k, it's awaiting Kaleb's approval. Here is a diagram of the cabin vacuum system. I just took a good look at it and noticed that

Re: [MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

2007-03-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
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Re: [MBZ] OkieQ Dates - german grammar

2007-03-31 Thread Hans Neureiter
Ich gehe auf eine Wassermelone Skiingreise zum Schwarzen Meer This is perfectly correct. Ich gehe means simply I go and is not specific whether I fly, drive, walk or whatever. Or one could also say: Ich werde auf eine Wassermelone Skiingreise zum Schwarzen Meer gehen Now the verb is at the end.

Re: [MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

2007-03-31 Thread LarryT
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[MBZ] New German diesels get poor marks for Green ness

2007-03-31 Thread Zoltan Finks
I don't have an internet link, but I saw on TV (Motorweek) in their news segment that on the list of meanest (as opposed to greenest) vehicles were the VW Taureg TDI as number 1, and a Mercedes SUV CDI as number 2. And there were three other diesels in the top ten meanest, environment-hating

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] whole bunch or no reserve pismos on ebay

2007-03-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:34:14 -0400 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Pismo were PISMO and was a DOD acronym, what would it stand for? LT Don - any ideas? Portable Information System, Man Operated Craig

Re: [MBZ] OkieQ Dates

2007-03-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:52:24 -0500 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My weakness is green peppers and chili peppers -- I grew up in an Italian neighborhood (coal miners) in WV. How about Habañeros, which even Wal-Mart stocks here in New Mexico? Craig

Re: [MBZ] CL W123 Gas Coupe In St. Louis

2007-03-31 Thread Zoltan Finks
I really wonder too. I want it. Is the 280 a 2.8 four cyl., or a six cyl.? Did those come with a fire extinguisher under front seat in Europe, or did someone install that? Brian On 3/31/07, tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Knoble wrote:

Re: [MBZ] CL W123 Gas Coupe In St. Louis

2007-03-31 Thread Peter Frederick
Six, there was never, to my knowledge, a 2.8L four from Benz, 2.4 was the largest, and only in a diesel. Peter

Re: [MBZ] New German diesels get poor marks for Green ness

2007-03-31 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Try here: http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/motornews.shtml Notice it's a 'mercan group, still with their heads buried in the sand about emissions. I would imagine that if the same study were done in the UK or Europe, the results would be drastically different by their standards. ---Robert

Re: [MBZ] From Greenwire -- AIR POLLUTION: EPA issues guidance fordiesel engine NOx controls

2007-03-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
The earth's PROTECTIVE ozone layer is thinning - this is a big problem Ground level ozone (smog) is a BAD thing - burns the eyes, irritant, etc. On 3/30/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey I'm not a chemist or whatever one might need to be, but don't they keep telling us there is a

Re: [MBZ] From Greenwire -- AIR POLLUTION: EPA issues guidance fordiesel engine NOx controls

2007-03-31 Thread ernest breakfield
what i keep hearing is that there's a hole in the Ozone Layer; different than Ground-Level Ozone described here. what i'm still curious about is how GL Ozone would be involved in the formation of Particulate Matter,...? cheers! e R A Bennell wrote: Hey I'm not a chemist or whatever

Re: [MBZ] sorting by subject line?

2007-03-31 Thread ernest breakfield
they all help to delete something disinteresting? ;-) cheers! e [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taking Digest #129 as one glowing example, there were five posts out of nineteen using the subject line OkieQ Dates. Three by Rentfro, one each by Cathey and McCann. Not one of them had anything to

Re: [MBZ] From Greenwire -- AIR POLLUTION: EPA issues guidance fordiesel engine NOx controls

2007-03-31 Thread Peter Frederick
It causes smog -- that nasty soup of chemicals produced by the oxidation of unburned hydrocarbons by ozone. Some of this stuff (if not all), collects as water based microdroplets, and can also then dry into particulate matter. Add in the soot from diesels and the dust from gassers, fly ash

Re: [MBZ] german grammar

2007-03-31 Thread Jim Cathey
Ich gehe auf eine Wassermelone Skiingreise zum Schwarzen Meer This is perfectly correct. Ich gehe means simply I go and is not specific whether I fly, drive, walk or whatever. Was this always true? Or is it language drift? I'm just wondering where my teacher's STRONG opinion on this came

Re: [MBZ] columbus CL 300CD

2007-03-31 Thread Ralph W
I'm pretty sure it was late '81 when MB added the turbo. Definitely available in '82. I had an '81 parts coupe which I drove around a bit before parting out. It actually wasn't too bad. Nothing like a 240! If this one is rust free and has a straight body and the mileage is accurate it would be

[MBZ] 123 steering pump rebuild

2007-03-31 Thread Ralph W
My pump in the '83 coupe is leaking out the shaft. Anyone done this rebuild? Is it as simple as getting a pully puller and pulling the pully and replacing a seal. I have an old spare pump but this is the second leaky pump I've encountered and would like a long term fix if it's easy to do. TIA

Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: 123 vacuum issues

2007-03-31 Thread Rich Thomas
I know it needs lots of front end work, 'cause it chews through tires at an alarming rate (inners wear really quickly). The TD was doing this also, was one of those things I was gonna get a round to. My son calls one day and says the front wheel fell off as he was turning out of the school

Re: [MBZ] german grammar

2007-03-31 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Reminds me of Willie and Joe in More Mox Nix.. (that's dating myself .. mid 50's...) When they encountered einfahrt, durchfahrt, ausfahrt, etc., Willie or Joe commented... I don't know which way to fahrt Just a Saturday Phriday Phunny. Take care, Chuck On Mar 31, 2007, at 10:34

Re: [MBZ] From Greenwire -- AIR POLLUTION: EPA issues guidance fordiesel engine NOx controls

2007-03-31 Thread Rich Thomas
I think we need taller chimneys. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: The earth's PROTECTIVE ozone layer is thinning - this is a big problem Ground level ozone (smog) is a BAD thing - burns the eyes, irritant, etc.

Re: [MBZ] german grammar

2007-03-31 Thread OK Don
The original drawings of a lot of the Willie and Joe cartoons by Bill Mauldin (sp?) are in the 45th, Infantry Museum in OKC - there's a whole room full of them - great stuff. On 3/31/07, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reminds me of Willie and Joe in More Mox Nix.. (that's dating

[MBZ] Audio hackery

2007-03-31 Thread Jim Cathey
I decided to surprise my wife by putting the portable CD player in her car, currently the Chicken Wagon. (I bought her some books on disc she might like.) When I put the cassette adapter into the Becker it blew its fuse. Not the car's, but the one in the clip-on holder behind the radio. When

Re: [MBZ] Audio hackery

2007-03-31 Thread Rich Thomas
I saw something recently about this sort of thing, I think on the Make magazine website/blogs. The guy soldered in a connection on some part of the board inside his player, and got it to work OK. That was with a newer unit, so might not apply to vintage electronics.

[MBZ] Shattered glass Maserati

2007-03-31 Thread Rich Thomas
I wonder if an old Benz version would be sufficiently artistic. I saw a 300D a coupla years ago done up for the art car parade that was covered in little dolls and figurines and mirrors. An ignominious end to a good car. --R

Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-31 Thread Richard Smith
Its 4' high by 50' by 18. On 3/28/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I rent a 30 ton splitter once a year for $60 a day. Rent it Saturday afternoon and have to return it Monday morning when they open. I can split a stack 4' high by 50' in the time I have the splitter. So, would that

Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-31 Thread Richard Smith
I did split some locust wood with it. sections that were 18 long and maybe 10-12 across. That is some tough wood! It split it with no problem, but you had to run the splitter all the way throught it. That wood just does not want to come apart. It sure burns good, hot, and long though. Did not

Re: [MBZ] out of date advice

2007-03-31 Thread RELNGSON
Allan wrote:follow your owner's manual recommendations -- not Mobil's -- for oil weight Exactly Allan, well said - Mobil's priority is to sell oil not worrying about old cars like ours. Why not, if you believe that oil technology hasn't changed since the '70s. RLE

Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-31 Thread Mike Canfield
Yep, that's just over 6 face cord. Mike - Original Message - From: Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters Its 4' high by 50' by 18. On 3/28/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood Splitters

2007-03-31 Thread Mike Canfield
The straight grained locust splits nice. I will split that all day with a maul...Knots, on the other hand usually get hacked up with the chain saw. They suck. Mike - Original Message - From: Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] german grammar

2007-03-31 Thread Redghost
Might have to do with Anglo Saxon usage and the change of the form to relate to distance, such that one would travel a great distance and it would then be far. Where Gehe, is much closer to the short travel of going to a location not so farhe away. Been more than 35 years since I had to

Re: [MBZ] 911 erl

2007-03-31 Thread LarryT
RLE asked:where does this recommendation come from? Porsche issued a service bulletin years ago recommending M1 0W40 in every one of their engines back to 1973.5. Howdy, Have been looking unsuccessfully for my source - basically it said the engines of the '70s were not built to tolerences

Re: [MBZ] 500 SEL/SEC

2007-03-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Terry Geiger wrote: This 500 SEC is gray market with 5 speed manual. I bet it likes fuel. Drop a OM606 turbo in it. Could be the ultimate FrankenBenz. Can't you just imagine a 450hp superturbo 126 coupe mit 5sp?

Re: [MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

2007-03-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:59:49 -0500 Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gang, Anybody have the PDF of the Vacuum Diagram for the 123 body. I'm try to track down a massive leak on a buddies 84 300D. I thought I had a diagram but can't find it. And the only CD I have is for the 126

[MBZ] 123 Vacuum Diagram

2007-03-31 Thread Dan Steadman
: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070331/05967778/attachment.pdf