Re: [MBZ] blah blah blah

2008-02-24 Thread Kevin Kraly
I was wondering when RLE would say something. Finances are part of what's keeping me from that E320 Bluetec. The other part is that it won't tow the boat or travel trailer and costs 10K more than the truck that CAN tow. I've thought of how nice it may be to own both, but I would be quite

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Kevin Kraly
However, you have much less protection when you use a debit card than when you use a credit card. This topic came up on the local news just the other day. Credit cards have more fraud protection than debit cards. Most likely, if someone somehow steals your card or gets the number and drains

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Kevin Kraly
I use a credit card but pay my bill off every month. More of us should live this way. It's oh so easy to overspend and end up just paying half of it and carry it over to the next month, BT, DT! It's nice to have that credit there for an emergency too. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?

2008-02-24 Thread LarryT
Craig, I don't have the original email with the spreadsheet link - I got an answer of 238 - is that correct? Would like to know if I can hack it as a 5th grader. Also - glad you pointed out the grammer problem - grammer has become a pet peeve of mine even though I hated studying it in high

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Jeff Zedic
On 24/02/2008, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a credit card but pay my bill off every month. In the credit card industry, a person doing thsi is known as a deadbeat! What does that tell you about them? Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-24 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I couldn't agree more. Only exception is the G-wagon. I would have and would buy that any day. I wish they would export a diesel version to the US. Dimitri --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cars between the late late 90's, up until recently, didn't interest me much, but before that, and

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Insane wrote: I live in Jefferson, Iowa. I use the debit card at the ATM and for PayPal. Debit card? Paypal? You just got two letters added to your last name for a month. Do yourself a favor. Join Penfed.org. Apply for their 5% cashback fuel card (5% of at the pump purchases

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yup, if you don't do that those bastards will put your account in a revolving balance and you'll end up paying interest on a purchase you made one minute ago. Dimitri --- Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a credit card but pay my bill off every month. More of us should live this way.

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-24 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
You are the exception rather than the rule. Most people have credit cards. You almost need them to exist here. You can't even rent a car without one. That being said, I agree with your philosophy but it is unfortunately impractical in this day and age. Even in Europe where people refrained

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards

2008-02-24 Thread Allan Streib
Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yup, if you don't do that those bastards will put your account in a revolving balance and you'll end up paying interest on a purchase you made one minute ago. Which cards are these? I have not carried a credit card balance in years and they all

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards

2008-02-24 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:34:07 -0500 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yup, if you don't do that those bastards will put your account in a revolving balance and you'll end up paying interest on a purchase you made one minute ago. Which

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-24 Thread Allan Streib
Debt is not always a bad thing. It can make sense to pay over time for things you will use or benefit from over that time. Even if you have the cash, you might consider financing if the terms are really good. I've done this to get zero percent loans for 12 - 18 months for appliances and home

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?

2008-02-24 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:50:23 -0500 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig, I don't have the original email with the spreadsheet link - I got an answer of 238 - is that correct? Would like to know if I can hack it as a 5th grader. Nope. Sorry, that's not even close. Also - glad you

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-24 Thread Gary Hurst
there you have it. and you guys think i just draw this up off the top of my twisted mind? On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I still shop at Sears, for tools that is, and would definitely still buy a new mercedes. I believe that the quality

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im thinking you want to trade a quantum for a SLC Wonko the Sane wrote: I beg to differ. The only folks to whom I have a debt is my mortgage company, and that is only because I didn't have a $75K balance in my checking account when I purchased this house. I have no credit cards. I use a debit

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You do not get the same protections from a fake visa or mc as you do from a real one. Mitch Haley wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: Good ideas there. However, you have much less protection when you use a debit card than when you use a credit card. I can't rattle off the particulars, but they are

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-24 Thread Gary Hurst
as much as it hurts my prostate to say these words, kleb and i are maybe close to being on the same page on this matter. there is no more mercedes magic. i go throw up now On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just about every car on the road is about the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Good for you, way to go. Should everybody who doesnt follow this lifestyle be shot? Wonko the Sane wrote: We live in entirely different economic environments. I buy diesel (and, regrettably, gas for Debbie's Buick) on the debit card. I buy groceries on the debit card. I do PayPal for eBay on

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Just about every car on the road is about the same quality and safety as a MB now days, or for that matter, they all look pretty much the same. Nothing really special about MB anymore. Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Hey, I still shop at Sears, for tools that is, and would definitely still buy a new

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No joke, I see a MB going down the road, looks like a honda till I notice a MB star on the trunk. Makes me laugh, looks like somebody just stuck a star on their Honda to impress people Gary Hurst wrote: as much as it hurts my prostate to say these words, kleb and i are maybe close to being

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-24 Thread tom savage
Gary Hurst wrote: as much as it hurts my prostate to say these words, kleb and i are maybe close to being on the same page on this matter. there is no more mercedes magic. i go throw up now You've obviously not driven a new S550. There is hope. Tom ___

Re: [MBZ] New Grandfather

2008-02-24 Thread Redghost
congratulations grandpa! clay ] On 20 Feb 2008, at 17:17, Tom Hargrave wrote: Rumor is, I am now a Grandfather. It’s been a busy day - mostly keeping Joey, my son occupied while his wife went through the earlier stages of child birth! Karen, my Wife, was not able to fly in from

Re: [MBZ] 190D question

2008-02-24 Thread Jim Cathey
I tackled the EPC again, and this time noticed something I didn't see before: a ball stud screwed directly (?) into the intake manifold. I took a screen shot and merged it into the page. Then I went out into the garage. Yes! Once I knew what to look for I found a threaded boss on the intake

[MBZ] Tool shopping, was Sears

2008-02-24 Thread tom savage
95% of my tools are Craftsman. Some are older than I am and are just great. Some are much newer - the screwdriver shafts rust and the sockets are fragile. It is really sad what has become of Sears, but that is a subject for another post. I'd like to upgrade my stock as the need arises, or

Re: [MBZ] was:W220 rust, now: What would You Buy Today?

2008-02-24 Thread Robert Rentfro
Klebaroosky typeth: Just about every car on the road is about the same quality and safety as a MB now days, or for that matter, they all look pretty much the same. Nothing really special about MB anymore. Sad isn't. So, if yous were going to go out today and buy a new car, what would it be

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards

2008-02-24 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Sears Mastercard will automatically put your account in a revolving balance if you do not pay the balance in full. That means that if you make the minimum payment on its due date and then 2 days later pay it in full, you will still be paying interest on any purchases made after you made the

Re: [MBZ] Tool shopping, was Sears

2008-02-24 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Try www.aeincorporated.com/Hazet for Hazet tools. They seem to be much cheaper than other sources. Make sure to get the retailer price which is basically wholesale. I don't think Snap-on is available anywhere else except for their website or a tool truck. Personally I like Mac Tools better.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards

2008-02-24 Thread Tony Wirtel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 24/02/2008, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use a credit card but pay my bill off

Re: [MBZ] was:W220 rust, now: What would You Buy Today?

2008-02-24 Thread Peter Frederick
I will take a Benz, please -- I survived an severe accident with minor injuries, quite certain it was because Benz builds VERY safe cars. Partially luck, as the impact was ahead of the door post, but mostly a result of the calibrated collapse of the body (the right side of the engine

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards

2008-02-24 Thread Peter Frederick
Banking in general and credit cards/loan making are GROSSLY under- regulated in the US, and have very badly distorted the view of the economic status of the country. All that excessive profit is counted as GDP. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?

2008-02-24 Thread MG
Sorry Larry, You horrible person you! How could you cut the legs off so many cats? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you didn't cut up any of those poor girls. :-) I wish I could download the spreadsheet but the crappy server dumps me out after sending only 90kb of it. Hmmm

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread MG
It tells me that the credit card companies deserve to have more people doing this. Manfred Who also pays them off every month so I must be a deadbeat and proud of it! Damed if they'll make any usurious money off of me. Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:32:47 -0600 From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?

2008-02-24 Thread Curt Raymond
Your reply made me go back and actually do it. I think you missed a multiple in there, remember each girl has 7 backpacks containing 7 cats. BTW can you forward my last analysis report? I got the mailed copy but seem to have missed the pdf. Maybe Yahoo's spam filter ate it. -Curt Date: Sun,

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-24 Thread Curt Raymond
Theres a guy along my commute that has a 300GD. I've seen it driving but never stopped. I'd surely love to have one of those but not for what I've seen that people want for them. -Curt Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 05:55:09 -0800 (PST) From: Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Curt Raymond
Good advice the stories about Paypal draining somebody's bank account due to some trumped up fraud charge are very frightening. Having your cc there protects you. -Curt Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:02:42 -0500 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?

2008-02-24 Thread Rory
Finally got it after several tries, don't know if my name was saved. On 2/24/08, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your reply made me go back and actually do it. I think you missed a multiple in there, remember each girl has 7 backpacks containing 7 cats. BTW can you forward my last

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-24 Thread Bill R
You can rent a car with a debit card. Not sure it that is true of all car rental agencies. I also have credit cards, all with $0 balances. BillR -Original Message- From: Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/24/08 9:00 AM

[MBZ] eBay English Major

2008-02-24 Thread Rick Knoble
Complete description in one sentence. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/wdbab23a1db370879_W0QQitemZ110226722369QQihZ001QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards

2008-02-24 Thread Allan Streib
I think I misinterpreted your original comment, I thought you were saying that people who paid their card in full every month were still paying interest. Allan Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sears Mastercard will automatically put your account in a revolving balance if you do not

Re: [MBZ] Tool shopping, was Sears

2008-02-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I don't think Snap-on is available anywhere else except for their website or a tool truck. You might get lucky at a pawn shop, although Craftsman is more common there. You can watch the classified ads, but you may have to buy somebody's complete collection to get a

[MBZ] eBay English W108 240D

2008-02-24 Thread Hendrik Fay
While we are onto English ebay, this should get the klatta crowd excited. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MERCEDES-DIESEL-W108-1971-MANUAL-TAX-FREE-LOW-MILEAGE_W0QQitemZ290199833016QQihZ019QQcategoryZ31360QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] eBay English Major

2008-02-24 Thread Robert Rentfro
That one is about 5 miles from me. I thought about going to look at it except the house across the street has the sun in the back yard. BobR. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 1:09 PM To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] eBay English W108 240D

2008-02-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik Fay wrote: While we are onto English ebay, this should get the klatta crowd excited. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MERCEDES-DIESEL-W108-1971-MANUAL-TAX-FREE-LOW-MILEAGE_W0QQitemZ290199833016QQihZ019QQcategoryZ31360QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem A W108 240D? How slow is that? I think

Re: [MBZ] blah blah blah

2008-02-24 Thread LarryT
Agree with your comments about the 560SEL - especially the W126 since IMO that's one of the best vehicles made in recent history. There are 2 local cars I'm lusting after - an 87 300SDL and a 89 SEL - the diesel is $2500 and the gasser is $3000. In the end the diesel will probably win as I

Re: [MBZ] eBay English Major

2008-02-24 Thread Robert Rentfro
Look at the photos... Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] eBay English Major except the house across the street has the sun in the

Re: [MBZ] Craigs List

2008-02-24 Thread Jim Cathey
Ya think this guy got a little carried away with his zero's? Mercedes E320 4Matic 2002 - $150 - Just left out the decimal point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email

Re: [MBZ] was:W220 rust, now: What would You Buy Today?

2008-02-24 Thread Gary Hurst
that 2009 honda diesel mentioned here the other day is something i'd take a long look at. subaru wrx if i could get my fat self into in. cadillac cts. a bunch of stuff i'd be interested in. or maybe just cheap out and get some discontinued closeout model on the big discount On Sun, Feb 24,

[MBZ] Craigs List

2008-02-24 Thread LarryT
Ya think this guy got a little carried away with his zero's? Mercedes E320 4Matic 2002 - $150 - ?? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info

Re: [MBZ] was:W220 rust, now: What would You Buy Today?

2008-02-24 Thread Hendrik Fay
That's exactly the point, while some cars score well in safety ratings due to having 300 air bags, the actual strength of the body is what saves you in a high impact crash. Sure a lot of manufacturers (predominately European) have looked over MB's back fence and build strong cars but a lot of

Re: [MBZ] eBay English Major

2008-02-24 Thread Rick Knoble
except the house across the street has the sun in the back yard. BobR. Huh? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: [MBZ] Tool shopping, was Sears

2008-02-24 Thread Luther
Try Armstrong tools. Quality tools 100% USA made. http://www.armstrongtools.com/ Luther On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:51:32 -0600, tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 95% of my tools are Craftsman. Some are older than I am and are just great. Some are much newer - the screwdriver shafts rust and

Re: [MBZ] was:W220 rust, now: What would You Buy Today?

2008-02-24 Thread tom savage
Gary Hurst wrote: that 2009 honda diesel mentioned here the other day is something i'd take a long look at. subaru wrx if i could get my fat self into in. cadillac cts. a bunch of stuff i'd be interested in. or maybe just cheap out and get some discontinued closeout model on the big

Re: [MBZ] was:W220 rust, now: What would You Buy Today?

2008-02-24 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
The now discontinued SL1 models are supposed to be reliable with engines doing 300-400,000 miles. They are very basic, cheap feeling cars that just keep on going. A good alternative for those who don't want to buy Japanese. Dimitri --- tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote:

Re: [MBZ] was:W220 rust, now: What would You Buy Today?

2008-02-24 Thread Loren Faeth
That impact is not too much different than Peter's 300D took. Peter walked away, not exactly unscathed, but in pretty good shape, considering. At 03:25 PM 2/24/2008, you wrote: That's exactly the point, while some cars score well in safety ratings due to having 300 air bags, the actual

[MBZ] SLC pics are up

2008-02-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Took some pics of the 78 450SLC euro and the 81 380SLC that I posted about a few days ago. Had several people interested but no deals yet. Will also probably be listing them on ebay or craigslist this week. http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/78450slc/ http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/81380slc/ --

Re: [MBZ] was:W220 rust, now: What would You Buy Today?

2008-02-24 Thread Jeff Zedic
I'd be very tempted to buy the current version of my car, the Audi A4 TDI. I really like the new styling and the car has been flawless for me as well as very efficient. Wonder if it has a 6 speed? (no auto gears for me!) Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] eBay English Major

2008-02-24 Thread Rick Knoble
Look at the photos... Bob R Ahhh. Okay. http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/db/e3/ef12_12.JPG AZ car = NO RUST. I am actually considering this car for my kid. He will be 15 in June. Give him a year to learn how to work on it and how to drive it. Obviously it has vacuum issues and probably

Re: [MBZ] was:W220 rust, now: What would You Buy Today?

2008-02-24 Thread Hendrik Fay
What annoys me is the depreciation factor of buying a new/newish car. Soon as you drive out of the dealer there is a few grand gone. A couple of dings and paint chips and a few more grand are wiped off. Kids stain the carpet/seats = more value lost. Now perhaps someone could tell me the

Re: [MBZ] eBay English Major

2008-02-24 Thread Robert Rentfro
Rick typed: AZ car = NO RUST. Only if it's been here all its life. Many an AZ car has spent most of its life elsewhere. Be careful. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email

Re: [MBZ] was:W220 rust, now: What would You Buy Today?

2008-02-24 Thread Gary Hurst
the big saturn seems highly regarded. the little roadster strikes me as pretty cool. i just don't know anything about suv and minivans and such. saturn was founded on teh premise of being a different kind of car company and they used to try to treat people right. now they are just another

Re: [MBZ] blah blah blah

2008-02-24 Thread E M
Not sure about the diesels, as I don't see many around here. They don't seem to change hands all that often here. As for the gassers, the bottom end is $1500, but to be honest, even though they are drivers and are roadworthy, I look at them as a used engine for $1500 and a lot of extra parts

Re: [MBZ] Craigs List

2008-02-24 Thread E M
Start high and leave yourself room to haggle, right. ha ha ha Ed 300E On 24/02/2008, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya think this guy got a little carried away with his zero's? Mercedes E320 4Matic 2002 - $150 - ?? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil

Re: [MBZ] was:W220 rust, now: What would You Buy Today?

2008-02-24 Thread E M
People can kill themselves in pretty much anything if they try hard enough, but all things being equal, and we know they seldom are, I'll take my chances in a Benz. Airbags are great on the first hit, but get tagged on a highway where you may get banged half a dozen times before you come to a

Re: [MBZ] blah blah blah

2008-02-24 Thread Allan Streib
E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As an example of paying for the right car, I called a dealer the other day who had a '94 gasser wagon, with 200,000 kms on it for a Happy Meal under $7000. I told the guy, I won't haggle on price, but you're asking top buck, so if I come and see it, it better be

[MBZ] somebody should buy this

2008-02-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://mobile.craigslist.org/rvs/582152211.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,

[MBZ] Mercedes Problems Spreadsheet

2008-02-24 Thread LarryT
Howdy - I finally got around to creating a first draft of what we discussed a month or 2 ago - a spreadsheet with things to look for when considering another MB - so we don't go over the same ground again and again on the email list and risk forgetting something. This is only a first

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Problems Spreadsheet

2008-02-24 Thread Tom Hargrave
You need to delimit by year. For example, the 240D from 74 through 76 was a 115 body, not a 123 body. The 300D was also a 115 body for one year - 1976. The 300TD was a wagon. You also had the 300CD coupe. Then you had the non-turbo turbo 300D's. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Problems Spreadsheet

2008-02-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Actually, there was a 115 300D from 75-76 Tom Hargrave wrote: You need to delimit by year. For example, the 240D from 74 through 76 was a 115 body, not a 123 body. The 300D was also a 115 body for one year - 1976. The 300TD was a wagon. You also had the 300CD coupe. Then you had the

Re: [MBZ] grammer

2008-02-24 Thread RELNGSON
Also - glad you pointed out the grammer problem - grammer has become a pet peeve of mine even though I hated studying it in high school. ;-) Didn't do all that swell in spelling, either. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.

Re: [MBZ] debit, noooo...

2008-02-24 Thread RELNGSON
Debit cards, yes a pretty bad idea all around.  They offer much less protection than credit cards against fraudulent use, without any real benefit. Exactly right. Lose one and find out. And records must be kept. I use my Visa card maybe 20 times per month and pay off the balance when the

Re: [MBZ] debit, noooo...

2008-02-24 Thread Wonko the Sane
If I remember correctly, aren't you an attorney? Some of us don't live in that same economy come payday. On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use my Visa card maybe 20 times per month and pay off the balance when the bill comes. -- LT Don

Re: [MBZ] Tool shopping, was Sears

2008-02-24 Thread David Bruckmann
I deal with a couple of German heavy machinery manufacturers who used to specify Hazet for their repair/maintenance tool sets. They have both told me that they're having BIG problems with Hazet's declining quality lately, sometimes with dozens of tools being returned as defective. It's reached

Re: [MBZ] grammer

2008-02-24 Thread Gary Hurst
i was gonna take that shot myself, but had a moment of charitable weakness On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also - glad you pointed out the grammer problem - grammer has become a pet peeve of mine even though I hated studying it in high school. ;-) Didn't do

[MBZ] Canadian single payer health care

2008-02-24 Thread RELNGSON
www.freemarketcure.com/brainsurgery.php ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___

Re: [MBZ] Canadian single payer health care

2008-02-24 Thread John M McIntosh
Tsk, should have hop a $199 west jet plane to BC and gone visiting http://www.findprivateclinics.ca/British_Columbia/Diagnostic_Imaging/Radiology/MRI_Scan/lc-2-0-82-0.html For the most part the canadian health system sorts people by need, versus $$$. Personal experience also indicates it's by

Re: [MBZ] debit, noooo...

2008-02-24 Thread E M
Cheques are pretty much unheard of here. Stand in line at a grocery store, and 90% probably pay by debit. Ed 300E On 24/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debit cards, yes a pretty bad idea all around. They offer much less protection than credit cards against fraudulent

Re: [MBZ] debit, noooo...

2008-02-24 Thread E M
If you don't carry a balance, a credit card can be great. Allows you to defer payment for a month. Keep your money in your hands for an extra month earning interest. Having said that, a credit card is a bad bad way to finance any purchase. Treat it like you would cash, and don't carry a

Re: [MBZ] debit, noooo...

2008-02-24 Thread Timothy Robinson
I learned a quick lesson decades ago (college trip) travelling with AMEX Travelers' Cheques. It was difficult to cash them or have them accepted in many places. Forget waiting at a hotel desk with dozens of other students each wanting to cash a $50. Those were the days before ATM terminals and

Re: [MBZ] somebody should buy this

2008-02-24 Thread Luther
So get on it, that's an extra bedroom. Luther On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:39:18 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://mobile.craigslist.org/rvs/582152211.html -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD

Re: [MBZ] somebody should buy this

2008-02-24 Thread E M
Converted by mercedes executives? Mercedes executives don't strike me as the camp ground types. Ed 300E On 25/02/2008, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So get on it, that's an extra bedroom. Luther On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:39:18 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] somebody should buy this

2008-02-24 Thread Zeitgeist
Yeah, but it's not a speed demon...what good is it to me, if it's not a speed demon? On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So get on it, that's an extra bedroom. Luther On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:39:18 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] debit, noooo...

2008-02-24 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:04:43 -0600 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I remember correctly, aren't you an attorney? Some of us don't live in that same economy come payday. But that's the whole point. Live in your own economy, just as you do when you use a debit card. Budget when you

Re: [MBZ] somebody should buy this

2008-02-24 Thread Jim Cathey
http://mobile.craigslist.org/rvs/582152211.html Yeah, that sort of thing is attractive to me. Prolly won't happen though, as they never show up locally! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Problems Spreadsheet

2008-02-24 Thread Jim Cathey
You need to delimit by year. For example, the 240D from 74 through 76 was a 115 body, not a 123 body. The 300D was also a 115 body for one year - 1976. The 300D has the honor of being three different body styles in the US: 115, 123, and 124. I think it might be the front runner in the

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Problems Spreadsheet

2008-02-24 Thread Loren Faeth
190D has been in 3 different bodies in the USA 50's Ponton (190D and 190Db, the 60s 110 body (190Dc) and the 80s 201 (190D). In the rest of the world, the 200D has been in many bodies: 110, 114/115, 123, and maybe more, like the 124. There have been lots of 230, 250 and 280 gassers also.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Ed Booher
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good advice the stories about Paypal draining somebody's bank account due to some trumped up fraud charge are very frightening. Having your cc there protects you. -Curt I heard about some of those horror stories about

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards

2008-02-24 Thread Ed Booher
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Banking in general and credit cards/loan making are GROSSLY under- regulated in the US, and have very badly distorted the view of the economic status of the country. All that excessive profit is counted as GDP.

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Problems Spreadsheet

2008-02-24 Thread Tom Hargrave
The answer is to delimit by body / engine. This way, chassis trim issues can be addressed by body then drive line issues can be addressed by engine. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [MBZ] Tool shopping, was Sears and now tool quality

2008-02-24 Thread Hendrik Fay
Seems to be going that way in a lot of things, bought a Grundig TV a while back and it is a complete piece of junk. Guess it is a case of an investment company coming in and cutting costs to maximize profit and the good name that has been build up over many years ends up as junk as well. Far

Re: [MBZ] grammer

2008-02-24 Thread Hendrik Fay
Yeah right, you're just slow. Gary Hurst wrote: i was gonna take that shot myself, but had a moment of charitable weakness On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also - glad you pointed out the grammer problem - grammer has become a pet peeve of mine even though I

Re: [MBZ] Canadian single payer health care

2008-02-24 Thread Hendrik Fay
Be fair, from what I remember they said another 100 years of war in the middle east or until there is no more oil in the middle east, whichever occurs first. Also you seem to have missed the fine print in the Democrat spin which was health care for all (who can pay big bucks to get the doctors

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Problems Spreadsheet

2008-02-24 Thread Hendrik Fay
It's a work in progress but would do well being a wiki. Spose under W220 we could write: rusteverywhere. Hendrik Tom Hargrave wrote: You need to delimit by year. For example, the 240D from 74 through 76 was a 115 body, not a 123 body. The 300D was also a 115 body for one year - 1976. The

Re: [MBZ] was:W220 rust, now: What would You Buy Today?

2008-02-24 Thread Ed Booher
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sad isn't. So, if yous were going to go out today and buy a new car, what would it be taking the above quote from Okieland into consideration? And I mean normal working man going out to buy a car. Bob R Bob,

[MBZ] How much do I love my car?

2008-02-24 Thread E M
How much do I love my car? Well, washed it by hand early today, for the 3rd time in 7 days, and was out with a bottle of Armorall at 10:30pm in the dark, and -5, doing the tires and rubber bits. Think I've fallen under the Mercedes spell over the past 8 months. What's the best way to wash the

Re: [MBZ] Tool shopping, was Sears

2008-02-24 Thread Ed Booher
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM, tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to upgrade my stock as the need arises, or at least the stuff that sees heavy use. My question is: Anyone have any recommendations as to the best places to buy Snap-on, Stahwille, or Hazet? I haven't Thanks,

Re: [MBZ] Canadian single payer health care

2008-02-24 Thread John M McIntosh
There has to be some irony when a Canadian and New Zealander are discussing the merits or lack of for universal health care in the USA, quite a slow night on the list. On Feb 24, 2008, at 10:37 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: Be fair, from what I remember they said another 100 years of war in

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards

2008-02-24 Thread Ed Booher
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yup, if you don't do that those bastards will put your account in a revolving balance and you'll end up paying interest on a purchase you made one minute ago. Which cards