Re: [MBZ] fools rush in

Neither you fn weird *^^%*)(^ I am going to kill you you (^)(*^( son of a (*^ and when I eat your liver I am going to _(*)(%^ you mother_*(^)^( so and so Hendrik who feels better now but should stop watching rubbish on TV and the internet Rich Thomas wrote: Which half would be rational? --R

Re: [MBZ] fools rush in

wow, hit a nerve, did he? :) Luther Hendrik Fay wrote: Neither you fn weird *^^%*)(^ I am going to kill you you (^)(*^( son of a (*^ and when I eat your liver I am going to _(*)(%^ you mother_*(^)^( so and so Hendrik who feels better now but should stop watching rubbish on TV and the

Re: [MBZ] Iinstalling Unwiredtools CLIMATE CONTROL

Cool. It takes a bit of heat to get them to come on doesn't it. Caught me at first also. BTW Billr I seem to remember you said your fan comes on all the time with the AC. Remember that for the next time we work on your car. I want to check why that is. It shouldn't be. Not that it matters

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

ernest breakfield wrote: why would we think an AGM batt would not outgas when charging? they have vents; (they're very subtle on the Optimas, but they're there) wouldn't they be for just this purpose?

Re: [MBZ] OT Any Q's This Year?

I had mentioned a tentative IndyQ for next year, as we're still getting settled as well as recovering from the wife being laid off for several months (she starts back to work June 8 - whoopee!) While we don't have a lot of room to park a lot of cars, we have the room to entertain. I could

[MBZ] Ethanol

Daughter found this article, quite interesting. Are any of the newer Benzes flex fuel? Would increased ethanol content have any adverse effects on newer (or older for that matter) engines/fuel systems? I know around here the boaters are having fits with ethanol-laced fuels as it absorbs

[MBZ] Auxiliary fans

It takes a bit of heat to get them to come on doesn't it. Speaking of auxiliary fans, I'm impressed at how much air the twin fans of the 560 SEL move, and how quietly. Could barely hear them when they kicked on while charging the AC, yet the hot blast of air made me have to get a string to tie

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

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that people would buy. Allan -- 1983 300D -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090527/8175fddc/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] Missing air dam - should I care? W123 wagon

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Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

with a battery that had the proper cranking amps ratings for my diesel. cheers! e -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090527/cf84c1f5/attachment.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT Any Q's This Year?

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the first hard drive I ever bought was 640MB to replace the 40MB in my 386sx. Mine was a 5MB ST-506. Went into my S100 68000-based system. Really fast compared to floppies, and back then files weren't too big and didn't take long to load. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] ac flush gun

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[MBZ] 560 SEL

Got the new window slider in today, always fun to use a BFH and an anvil to fix your car. Got the door panel back on, but not the handles and trim. The Becker is WAIT-ing on my bench now. We'll see tomorrow if it wants a CODE, which I don't have. The AC is charged, using a test refrigerant.

Re: [MBZ] ac flush gun

yes Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: is that thing refillable I guess? You just pour the flush into the bottle? Luther wrote: The contraption I used was a quart tank that you applied compressed air to and had a hose/nozzle to put into the a/c system and pushed a/c flush fluid through.

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

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Re: [MBZ] Missing air dam - should I care? W123 wagon

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Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

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they come on. -- Jim -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090527/c7de0905/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

[MBZ] A/C Q's on a 126.....

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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

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[MBZ] OT More on Chrysler

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Re: [MBZ] Average Vehicle Scrapping Age

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Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

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Re: [MBZ] FW: Mercedes Question - favor for a friend

If it's a Lemon, what makes them think EVERYTHING has been fixed? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Banned List' ban...@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:28 PM Subject: [MBZ] FW: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

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Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

I once saw someone whom had an old Volvo 740 diesel with low compression that needed to crank really fast to start. They had two optima red tops mounted side by side in the space of the normal huge diesel battery, and they were connected in parallel directly to the starter with enormous

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 42, Issue 146

In the marine industry it is even worse, There is a good chance that the boater will get his engine started and head to the lake in early spring and the combination of cool, dense air and low octane from moisture in the fuel did a great job detonating and melting pistons. For the last 10 years

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

Scott - It has been a few years since I have worked on many of those pumper carbs but as far as adjustments to the needle and seat, the parts that you would call the float valve in a float type carb, when you have it assembled to the point that you can view the needle seat relationship, the lever

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Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

ernest breakfield wrote: Optima has this warning buried on their site: Overcharging can cause the safety valves to open and battery gasses to escape, resulting in premature failure. These gasses are flammable! perhaps the vent i'm seeing on the tops of the Optimas is what they're calling

Re: [MBZ] OT More on Chrysler

Allan Streib wrote: If these dealerships are franchise businesses, how do they cost Chrysler anything? How will Chrysler save any money by having fewer franchise dealers? Only way I figure it is fewer dealers - less competition - higher retail prices. Higher retail prices - dealers can

[MBZ] Dead battery?

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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

suggests that you run them dry as the risk is less that leaving the bowl full of 90% fuel. -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090527/cfb7d484

Re: [MBZ] OT Any Q's This Year?

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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

anyone know the trick for these diaphragm carbs? Scott -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090527/1f7abb13/attachment.html ___ http

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Re: [MBZ] OT More on Chrysler

Mitch, First of all, that cartoon is 6 years old. Names were changed to protect the guilty. Secondly, why do you have to insert this crap into this List? On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: If these dealerships are franchise businesses,

Re: [MBZ] OT More on Chrysler

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Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

I wonder why he would say that. A starter will draw more amps with a larger cable, because the resistance of the whole circuit is lower. If the starter cables are noticeably warm after a hard cranking session, then you will get a higher cranking speed with larger cables. If the starter cables

Re: [MBZ] FW: Mercedes Question - favor for a friend

I sort of got the feeling that was part of the question: Should they be afraid of the 'lemon', or is it likely that the problems were fixed? It is under warranty for a bit yet. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

Curt Raymond wrote: Marshall chided me and said that the starter wouldn't draw any more amps just because the cable is bigger. Maybe not, but the starter will see more voltage and spin faster because the larger cables have less voltage drop. That's what you really want anyway. To get an

Re: [MBZ] OT More on Chrysler

I have been trying to figure that out myself, same with GM Allan Streib wrote: If these dealerships are franchise businesses, how do they cost Chrysler anything? How will Chrysler save any money by having fewer franchise dealers? Allan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92

Re: [MBZ] OT More on Chrysler

John Freer wrote: Mitch, First of all, that cartoon is 6 years old. Names were changed to protect the guilty. Secondly, why do you have to insert this crap into this List? First of all, I was seriously answering the question that Allan asked. Secondly: What cartoon? The one I sent to Banned

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

Less voltage drop across cables = more current flowing through circuit Ohm's law states I=V/R Where I is the current, V the (fairly constant) battery voltage, and R the total circuit resistance. If the voltage drop across the cables goes down (due to their resistance, which contributes to

Re: [MBZ] OT More on Chrysler

Breaking news here and there says that almost all (like all but a very few) the whacked dealers had donated to the Republicans. I guess we'll have to wait to see if that story is real or not. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have been trying to figure that out myself, same with GM Allan

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Rich Thomas wrote: Breaking news here and there says that almost all (like all but a very few) the whacked dealers had donated to the Republicans. I guess we'll have to wait to see if that story is real or not. A more likely theory is that the whacked dealers refused to overbuy on inventory

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

tyler wrote: Less voltage drop across cables = more current flowing through circuit Ohm's law states I=V/R But ohm's law is for resistive loads, not inductive. In some cases, starter current can go UP as voltage to the starter goes down. I thought you had an education in physics? Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

I was assuming that the starter would be approximately ohmic over the range of voltages provided by different cables. Perhaps this is a wrong assumption? If so, I apologize- I'm really not sure. I imagine it would depend on the design and load of the motor. Tyler Mitch Haley wrote: But

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

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Re: [MBZ] flex fuel

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[MBZ] Dead battery?

'Found the radio code - 'sure works nicely when you can punch in the right numbers - Yee--Hah!! Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090527/3cda2ffa/attachment.html

Re: [MBZ] FW: Mercedes Question - favor for a friend

Well, if the price is reduced because of the car's reputation and significant warranty remains, it may worth taking the chance. 'May depend on one's comfort level/confidence in the car vs the money expended. For example, if I didn't pay much, I wouldn't expect as much as I would for paying

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Curt Raymond wrote: I think his contention was that the stock cables were big enough and short enough that nothing I could put in would be any serious kind of improvement... Aha, the Marshall theory of Mercedes engineers know more about car design than you do. Which, generally speaking,

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

We used to make battery cables out of welding cable cutoffs and scraps, which would typically be 4/0 cable with a rubber jacket and very, very fine conductors (not like a 4/0 that would be used for building wiring, for example.) I can say that in every instance where I did this, and I did it

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

You have a good point, and it's probably what Marshall was getting at. Of course, as cables age and corrode their resistance can get higher, and eventually need replacement- especially if battery acid has seeped down the length of the cable, which is pretty common unless the car has always

Re: [MBZ] OT Any Q's This Year?

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As for the A/C, I've thought about just adding more R-12 to keep it cooling hopefully, for another few years (and running with 1 of 2 aux fans) OR see if the fan can be replaced without removing the evaporator. Obviously, if the evap needs to come out, (to R/R the fan) then I guess we'll

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery?

To get an idea how much improvement is possible, measure cranking voltage at the battery and at the starter simultaneously. Better, and easier, is to measure the voltage between the battery post and the starter terminal. (And for grins, between the battery's other post and the engine block.)

Re: [MBZ] Auxiliary fans

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[MBZ] Diesel Jag

Jaguar XF Diesel S review The 3.0-litre unit comes in two power and torque outputs: 236 or 271bhp, with 368 or 442lb ft of torque respectively. The transmission is a six-speed automatic. The secret to unleashing all this extra power is sequential turbocharging,

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Mitch Haley wrote: tyler wrote: Less voltage drop across cables = more current flowing through circuit Ohm's law states I=V/R But ohm's law is for resistive loads, not inductive. In some cases, starter current can go UP as voltage to the starter goes down. I thought you had an

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you live too far away Bob Rentfro wrote: All you clowns live too far away from me..or do I live too far away from you? Bob R Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D,

Re: [MBZ] Auxiliary fans

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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Jag

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Re: [MBZ] Iinstalling Unwiredtools CLIMATE CONTROL

I don't remember that, but it could well be. I'll check it sometime. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Iinstalling

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Jag

archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes: Part of the Jaguar appeal is a combination of ride and handling that eludes the German opposition. Jaguar, without appearing to try very hard, manages to outride, outhandle and outdo the competition in almost every measure..snip Yes, I'm sure it's a

[MBZ] Counts on the trip

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time. -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090527/818d56cc/attachment.html ___ http

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OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: FYI - massive number of Highway Patrol cars just after the speed limit drops to 65MPH 15 miles East (heading West) of Memphis on I-40. I saw 5 waiting, and 1 with a catch. Several were in VA as well, but not as many as we saw on the way East. In Indiana the

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Jag

Interesting except: My 4 year old CDI gets better mileage (35 mpg) and is only .7 seconds slower to 60. What's the big deal? John On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Jaguar XF Diesel S review The 3.0-litre unit comes in

Re: [MBZ] FW: Mercedes Question - favor for a friend

I think they were talking high $20k to low $30's. For that money I suspect they would want pretty trouble free. Bill -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:39 PM To: Mercedes

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