Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'

2011-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
I went to a rat rod show in Houston where there was an old pickup of some sort, quite ratty, but it was bagged and could scrape along like that. It was actually kinda cool in a ratty kind of way. --R On 4/21/2011 10:49 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Easy, they set the air-ride to normal when

Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 123 engine into a w126 300SDL - will it fly?

2011-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
In theory, it should be possible, because the first series of 126 had the OM617 as an engine option for certain parts of the world. you would want to keep the engine and trans matched. you may need a torch, a welder, a machine shop and a stack of cash to make it happen. THen again, if the

Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 123 engine into a w126 300SDL - will it fly?

2011-04-22 Thread Allan Streib
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 07:52 -0500, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: a stack of cash This generally makes anything possible when it comes to modifying a car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Ugly wheels

2011-04-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
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[MBZ] 123 Center Tie Rod

2011-04-22 Thread Tim C
I was putting my new tie rods (which Rusty shipped superfast - if only I were as quick :) onto my '77 300D this morning. Outers went on beautifully; however, I'm having a problem with the center. I can get the new rod's cylindrical shafts about 60% in, and it is frightfully tight. I used my

Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 123 engine into a w126 300SDL - will it fly?

2011-04-22 Thread John Reames
The trans mount crossmember mounts to nuts that can be moved forwards or backwards (into different slots) in the frame rails. I believe that the engine compartment crossmember is the same across all 126's, but this would require verification in the EPC. Presuming that it is the same, you

Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 123 engine into a w126 300SDL - will it fly?

2011-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Is there any major difference in oil pan between the 617.951 and 617.952? I'm thinking that unless you already had a surplus 300D engine, it'd be easier to buy a wrecked or rusted 300SD for a drivetrain donor. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] OT: We Be Slammin'

2011-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
E M wrote: I like how they slapped on a piece of 2x2 to aid in heel and toe. hee hee 2 million dollar car, and a 25 cent performance modification. Gotta love it! I think it was a $7,000 car back then. (which would have bought a pretty decent house when my parents were graduating High

[MBZ] OT Bentley CGT v. old pickup

2011-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
The pickup won. Out for lunch saw this altercation. Bentley had the RF fender/light/hood crunched, truck no apparent damage (not that it would likely be noticeable). Probably at least a $40k bill. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 123 engine into a w126 300SDL - will it fly?

2011-04-22 Thread Rolf
The only differences between 951 and 952 is engine mount arms and the oil pressure sensor. -Rolf On 04/22/2011 10:51 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Is there any major difference in oil pan between the 617.951 and 617.952? I'm thinking that unless you already had a surplus 300D engine, it'd be

Re: [MBZ] OT Bentley CGT v. old pickup

2011-04-22 Thread Rick Knoble
No pictures? Rick Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The pickup won. Out for lunch saw this altercation. Bentley had the RF fender/light/hood crunched, truck no apparent damage (not that it would likely be

Re: [MBZ] OT Bentley CGT v. old pickup

2011-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
It was a drive-by sighting, on the other side of the road. I have seen this car before, driven by a trophy wife, I'm sure daddy can cover it no problem. --R On 4/22/2011 2:24 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: No pictures? Rick Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Rich

Re: [MBZ] 123 Center Tie Rod

2011-04-22 Thread Craig
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:42:14 -0400 Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: Open to any suggestions. Take pictures and send them to Rusty. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 123 Center Tie Rod

2011-04-22 Thread OK Don
I don't remember the ends having different tapers, but it's possible. Swap ends and try again? Craigs suggestion is probably the best -- On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:42:14 -0400 Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: Open to any

Re: [MBZ] 123 Center Tie Rod

2011-04-22 Thread Peter Hertzing
having just done this r u sure ur putting them in the way they came out? On 4/22/11, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the ends having different tapers, but it's possible. Swap ends and try again? Craigs suggestion is probably the best -- On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Craig

[MBZ] Serpentine Belt

2011-04-22 Thread Larry T
Howdy! Just changed the Serpentine Belt on my 91 300D 2.5T today - It had approximately 61,000 miles of normal back and forth to work driving - about 60 mi RT - mix of few stop signs and numerous stops per mile. The underside of the old belt had numerous cracks in the ribbed section. It

Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt

2011-04-22 Thread andrew strasfogel
Merely out of curiosity (I drive W123 cars), what happens if it fails? On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Howdy! Just changed the Serpentine Belt on my 91 300D 2.5T today - It had approximately 61,000 miles of normal back and forth to work driving - about

Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt

2011-04-22 Thread Rolf
The same as if all the belts failed on your w123. -Rolf On 04/22/2011 05:14 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Merely out of curiosity (I drive W123 cars), what happens if it fails? On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Larry Tl02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Howdy! Just changed the Serpentine Belt on my

Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt

2011-04-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
One good reason to keep driving the oldies. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: The same as if all the belts failed on your w123. -Rolf On 04/22/2011 05:14 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Merely out of curiosity (I drive W123 cars), what happens if it

Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt

2011-04-22 Thread WILTON
You lose engine and cabin cooling, power steering and elec. genning. Could mess up radiator, too, if it gets tangled in fan. Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 5:14

Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt

2011-04-22 Thread OK Don
The one that failed on my car did so gradually - letting the flapping end cut a tranny cooling line - before the serp belt failed completely. Not fun, even at only 50 miles from home. On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:01 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: You lose engine and cabin cooling, power

Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt

2011-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
Same thing as if the fan/alt belts break on your smoky ol 617. You stop soon or ruin the engine by overheating. No belt =no waterpump=overheated engine. Even my 62 190Dc and my grandparent's '50 shovey with only one belt did the same. Merely out of curiosity (I drive W123 cars), what

[MBZ] Blower amperage on '83 300D?

2011-04-22 Thread Gerry Archer
Does anyone know, or have a rough idea of how many amps a blower in an '83 300D should draw at max speed? I straight wired and tested the blower with a panel type ammeter and guessed that it was drawing somewhere between five and ten amps. This blower didn't seem to run as fast or blow as hard

Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt

2011-04-22 Thread Fmiser
Tl02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Just changed the Serpentine Belt on my 91 300D 2.5T today - It had approximately 61,000 miles On 04/22/2011 05:14 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Merely out of curiosity (I drive W123 cars), what happens if it fails? Rolf wrote: The same as

[MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread WILTON
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Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Walt Zarnoch
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Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110422/cf584e86/attachment-0005.jpg Universal hand drive? Great car for rural mail carriers. They can sit on the right while working, and sit on the left to commute. Mitch. ___ http

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Allan Streib
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Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Craig
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 20:42:29 -0400 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: But Wilton... the wheels... those WHEELS!!! Indeed! They are ugly. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: But Wilton... the wheels... those WHEELS!!! It's got Wilton Wheels, what did you expect? MLH. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

[MBZ] Wagner Brake Company

2011-04-22 Thread Jerry Herrman
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Re: [MBZ] Wagner Brake Company

2011-04-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Jerry Herrman wrote: Anyone know if the Wagner brake parts company is still in business? I haven't bought Wagner pads in, well, over three weeks. Federal-Mogul owns them now. http://www.fmsmartchoice.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Walt Zarnoch
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Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread WILTON
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Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt - and the letter n missing

2011-04-22 Thread Fmiser
Fmiser wrote: Tl02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Just changed the Serpentine Belt on my 91 300D 2.5T today - It had approximately 61,000 miles On 04/22/2011 05:14 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Merely out of curiosity (I drive W123 cars), what happens if it fails?

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
Yeah but does the bloody thing fly? Hendrik who is used to pilot controls WILTON wrote: I've been advocating automobile controls like this for 35 to 40 years. Half of the joy stick is much like that on B-52's 'till about 1983 - it was used to fly the airplane

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
back to it's roots, the patentwagen was steered with a joystick of sorts. Hendrik who still prefers the old fashioned round thingy in front of him Mitch Haley wrote: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110422/cf584e86/attachment-0005.jpg Universal hand drive

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
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Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt

2011-04-22 Thread Rolf
Have you seen the video on replacing a belt in 2 min or less? Not for the faint of heart. -Rolf On 4/22/2011 7:21 PM, Fmiser wrote: Tl02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Just changed the Serpentine Belt on my 91 300D 2.5T today - It had approximately 61,000 miles On 04/22/2011 05:14 PM,

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread OK Don
This isn't the first time we've seen a joystick in a Mercedes concept car - seems like they trot it out every other year or so. Maybe someday it'll be an actual option you can order, or even standard, though I won't hold my breath. I'd like to try it - On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Jaime

Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt

2011-04-22 Thread OK Don
I don't think it will work on a 60x engine quite like it does on an aircooled VW . On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Have you seen the video on replacing a belt in 2 min or less? Not for the faint of heart. -Rolf -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread E M
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Re: [MBZ] old car with joystick

2011-04-22 Thread RELNGSON
Ectually, that beast was an MB study mockup about ten years ago. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] vapor car

2011-04-22 Thread RELNGSON
...Isn't this already about 10 years old?  The car looks like a pre-facelift W220! You and I must be the only ones here who recognize this old mockup from, yes, 10 years ago. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Mountain Man
I will never have money for this arrangement - ever. Absolutely zero appeal for this customer. This is all glass cockpit stuff - zero mechanical connection in the passenger compartment. I am not confident in that technology, ever. Not a car for me - ever. mao

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Isn't there something like that for handicapped (er, physically-challenged, er, alternatively physicalled) drivers? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] vapor car

2011-04-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
And the medal for having a super dooper memory is on it's way. However you realize that Wilton gets excited by joysticks, his missus may as well but I don't know this for sure. He's probably busy, even as I type, putting a joystick in the 126. Hendrik who gets excited but not by joysticks

Re: [MBZ] vapor car

2011-04-22 Thread Rich Thomas
I will not continue with the aircraft analogies, and what sort of thing excites me. --R On 4/22/2011 10:57 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: And the medal for having a super dooper memory is on it's way. However you realize that Wilton gets excited by joysticks, his missus may as well but I don't

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR THE CHAIRMAN 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
The problem for you is that the insurance companies, under the direction of the secret order that rules the world, will make you buy a joystick car, which will be fully automated (the joystick is just for show) and will only take you to places that the government decides you have to go to.

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
Yes it's called a wheelchair. Hendrik Rich Thomas wrote: Isn't there something like that for handicapped (er, physically-challenged, er, alternatively physicalled) drivers? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] vapor car

2011-04-22 Thread WILTON
I'd have no problem whatever driving the 126 with a joystick. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] vapor car And the medal for having a super

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
Sure if you get strapped into the seat with a racing harness, so you sit nice and still while holding onto the stick, wouldn't want any sudden movements. Although I see the door handle is pretty sturdy, perhaps the idea is to hang onto the door handle nice and tight. Hendrik E M wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] vapor car

2011-04-22 Thread Allan Streib
What happens if you don't USE Mobil-1 oil and your FUSES MELT and you have no STEERING control? I'm in the corner with those who prefer mechanical steering. Allan On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 23:09 -0400, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I'd have no problem whatever driving the 126 with a joystick.

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread WILTON
'Bout 10 years ago, I had a large high-lift machine here in the yard for 2 months or so doing some work high up all around the house. It was Diesel-powered and controlled/driven with a joystick. I drove it very easily back and forth and all around wherever I needed it. 'Felt very

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread WILTON
'Could work VERY well for a handicapped driver. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015 Isn't there something like that

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
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Re: [MBZ] vapor car

2011-04-22 Thread Dieselhead
Same thing as an airbus when Windows CE for Airbus locks up. It crashes. Same thing as when your toada computer decides it no longer wants to respond to user input. You crash. What happens if you don't USE Mobil-1 oil and your FUSES MELT and you have no STEERING control? I'm in the

Re: [MBZ] NEW FOR 2015

2011-04-22 Thread E M
I'm sure all such things could easily be taken into account with such a system. Just as you can apply throttle in many cars today, and the car can figure out what you mean by it, whether it's a slip of your foot, or you really do want to get a move on. A system like this wouldn't work