[MBZ] OT History and future of the kilogram,
you know the other unit of measurement http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=ZMByI4s-D-Y Hendrik who is a few kilograms too heavy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.
Has the crank damper slipped, leaving no relationship between the timing marks and the actual crank position? Any chance the timing chain skipped some teeth when the IP was out of the car? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.
Mitch Haley wrote: Has the crank damper slipped, leaving no relationship between the timing marks and the actual crank position? Any chance the timing chain skipped some teeth when the IP was out of the car? And thirdly, does the engine now stumble and smoke when the original IP is put back in? If so, I'd worry more about the installation than the pump. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
On their facebook posting the other day --R On 6/30/13 6:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Did you make this up or did they really write that somewhere?! Jaime On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Thanks for the advice Guys! I plan to have a system leak test done when I can and go from there. So, are ACPods the vacuum things that operate the flaps, etc? It would sure make life easier if the problem is things like seals and o-rings ... ;-) Don't recall the term Pods before ... Thx agn, Larry On 6/30/2013 9:26 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: If you pull the car apart, make sure to replace the AC pods, they fail and some you have to pull the dash to replace. Hendrik who has a failed pod under the dash On 01/07/13 10:00, Larry T wrote: Thanks Wilton (and others) -- I will definitely do as suggested and have a full leak test done to be sure the problem is actually behind the dash. A couple of years ago my technician found a loose Schraeder valve was the cause of my loss of Freon. That was a easy problem to find and just as easy to fix! Maybe I'll get lucky again!? Thanks again to all who helped -- LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Vac pods are the actuators, yes. I replaced all of mine when I had the heat exchanger box on my table/bench. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Thanks for the advice Guys! I plan to have a system leak test done when I can and go from there. So, are ACPods the vacuum things that operate the flaps, etc? It would sure make life easier if the problem is things like seals and o-rings ... ;-) Don't recall the term Pods before ... Thx agn, Larry On 6/30/2013 9:26 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: If you pull the car apart, make sure to replace the AC pods, they fail and some you have to pull the dash to replace. Hendrik who has a failed pod under the dash On 01/07/13 10:00, Larry T wrote: Thanks Wilton (and others) -- I will definitely do as suggested and have a full leak test done to be sure the problem is actually behind the dash. A couple of years ago my technician found a loose Schraeder valve was the cause of my loss of Freon. That was a easy problem to find and just as easy to fix! Maybe I'll get lucky again!? Thanks again to all who helped -- LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Larry, If you do have a bad pod (Climate Control Actuator), you can replace the entire unit or just get the internal rubber diaphragms from Geo. Murphy. Some pods have one diaphragm and others have two - the number you need is obvious once disassembled. http://www.perfanalysis.com/climate-control/acc-version-ii/ Good luck, Dave On Jul 1, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Larry T wrote: Thanks for the advice Guys! I plan to have a system leak test done when I can and go from there. So, are ACPods the vacuum things that operate the flaps, etc? It would sure make life easier if the problem is things like seals and o-rings ... ;-) Don't recall the term Pods before ... Thx agn, Larry On 6/30/2013 9:26 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: If you pull the car apart, make sure to replace the AC pods, they fail and some you have to pull the dash to replace. Hendrik who has a failed pod under the dash On 01/07/13 10:00, Larry T wrote: Thanks Wilton (and others) -- I will definitely do as suggested and have a full leak test done to be sure the problem is actually behind the dash. A couple of years ago my technician found a loose Schraeder valve was the cause of my loss of Freon. That was a easy problem to find and just as easy to fix! Maybe I'll get lucky again!? Thanks again to all who helped -- LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Dave Cavner w123wa...@gmail.com wrote: If you do have a bad pod (Climate Control Actuator), you can replace the entire unit or just get the internal rubber diaphragms from Geo. Murphy. Some pods have one diaphragm and others have two - the number you need is obvious once disassembled. http://www.perfanalysis.com/climate-control/acc-version-ii/ Not correct, unfortunately. The pods on the 124 are different from the ones on the 123 and 126. No user-serviceable parts inside as it used to say on the back of TVs. Best just to replace them all when the dash is out. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Well, if you know the time, date, and position of the sun... I can imagine the car knowing the time and date to some fraction of a second, but would it know the angle of the sun well enough to locate itself within 200 miles or so? When you lose your GPS signal, you: - know where you are right now, including time, trajectory, and speed - know where the sun is, including which direction it is - know what time it is and where the sun is headed relative to your exact location Seems like it would be trivial to calculate, from light monitoring, which direction the car is turning; you still know speed and time, so it seems like it would be fairly simple to calculate a reasonably accurate course. That said I've never lost GPS when I was in a place where the sun was visible. Best, Tim no LORAN in cars? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: Seems like it would be trivial to calculate, from light monitoring, which direction the car is turning; you still know speed and time, so it seems like it would be fairly simple to calculate a reasonably accurate course. And -that- said, why not just use a compass and gyroscope? You've got initial location, speed, direction, seems like you could figure out elevation changes. Of course if you always know where you are then the GPS is just a check anyway. :) Best, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
Tim Crone wrote: That said I've never lost GPS when I was in a place where the sun was visible. Bingo! GPS and sun position are both line of sight. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
You caught the biggest issue here, Tim... if you have visible sun, you almost certainly have visibility to at least a few GPS satellites. But generally, in car navigation uses three things for positioning: GPS, Wheel speed, and a gyroscope. Between these there, positioning is very accurate even in challenging situations like in tunnels, inner city, etc. Even without GPS signal, a well calibrated system will keep its position very well for a long time. This is one huge advantage over the PND dash-top units that rely only on GPS. Jaime On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Well, if you know the time, date, and position of the sun... I can imagine the car knowing the time and date to some fraction of a second, but would it know the angle of the sun well enough to locate itself within 200 miles or so? When you lose your GPS signal, you: - know where you are right now, including time, trajectory, and speed - know where the sun is, including which direction it is - know what time it is and where the sun is headed relative to your exact location Seems like it would be trivial to calculate, from light monitoring, which direction the car is turning; you still know speed and time, so it seems like it would be fairly simple to calculate a reasonably accurate course. That said I've never lost GPS when I was in a place where the sun was visible. Best, Tim no LORAN in cars? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D hood release.
I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
I always know where I am, sometimes just not in relation to some other place --R (wherever you go, there you are!) On 7/1/13 11:06 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: You caught the biggest issue here, Tim... if you have visible sun, you almost certainly have visibility to at least a few GPS satellites. But generally, in car navigation uses three things for positioning: GPS, Wheel speed, and a gyroscope. Between these there, positioning is very accurate even in challenging situations like in tunnels, inner city, etc. Even without GPS signal, a well calibrated system will keep its position very well for a long time. This is one huge advantage over the PND dash-top units that rely only on GPS. Jaime On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Well, if you know the time, date, and position of the sun... I can imagine the car knowing the time and date to some fraction of a second, but would it know the angle of the sun well enough to locate itself within 200 miles or so? When you lose your GPS signal, you: - know where you are right now, including time, trajectory, and speed - know where the sun is, including which direction it is - know what time it is and where the sun is headed relative to your exact location Seems like it would be trivial to calculate, from light monitoring, which direction the car is turning; you still know speed and time, so it seems like it would be fairly simple to calculate a reasonably accurate course. That said I've never lost GPS when I was in a place where the sun was visible. Best, Tim no LORAN in cars? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
WILTON wrote: Just another little thing that makes living in Greenland enjoyable instead of the boring misery that it could be otherwise. - I was stationed in a number places during my 25 years in the USAF. One of the things I noticed was that a person's attitude had a lot more to do with their happiness than their actual surroundings. A lot of folks (especially junior enlisted) spent a lot of time complaining that their current assignment lacked specific things they enjoyed at home. Others took advantage of whatever was available and they had a good time. Wilton's comments on a place many would consider beyond the end of the world just reinforce this thought. Scott PreXACKLY! When I lived in paradise, I heard many military and military family members whining about there's nothing to do. They were insane. there are so many things to do, you can't do it all in a lifetime. hiking, biking, swimming, scuba, snorkel, snuba, learning the history and culture, visiting historic sites, free concerts, paid concerts, making music, making musical instruments are a few things that come to mind. You might learn the language, learn hula, make hula costumes, learn jungle or desert survival, camp, surf fish, make fishing tackle, make nets, repair nets the list is endless of things to do in Hawaii. Yet, many folks were unhappy cuz it twern't like home. Oh, and it was always entertaining to ride da bus, and to go Waikiki and watch the people. groups of Japanese tourists were always entertaining to watch. They always do as the leader says, buy expensive junk and take lots of pictures. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
--R (wherever you go, there you are!) No, no, no, don't tug on that! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook the handle end of the cable from the wall of the car and pull on the entire thing. Pop! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: --R (wherever you go, there you are!) No, no, no, don't tug on that! You never know what it might be attached to... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook the handle end of the cable from the wall of the car and pull on the entire thing. Pop! Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dogde WAS:Subaru Diesel
Reading in the manual for the current model Grand Caravan, and it had instructions for Diesel engine and in ( ) said (not in North America) I had seen earlier dogde vans in Yurp with Diesel engines. Does anyone know what Diesel engine they put in the Diesel Grand Caravan? I know the cheep liberty has an eyetalyeen Diesel, but I think that is an inline 4 cyl. I'd expect a v6 in the grand caravan. the MB 3.2 L v6 was probably slated for the USA G Caravan before the big divorce. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dogde WAS:Subaru Diesel
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I know the cheep liberty has an eyetalyeen Diesel, but I think that is an inline 4 cyl. I'd expect a v6 in the grand caravan. According to Wikipedia the base engine on the Grand Caravan in Europe, and the only diesel, is the same VM Motori 4-cylinder as was sold here in the Liberty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VM_Motori The Chevy Cruze diesel now on sale in the USA uses a smaller version from the same engine family. (VM Motori was part-owned by GM until recently.) VM Motori now is producing a V-6 diesel as well, which is the one in the 2013 Grand Cherokee (unlike the previous-generation GC which was available with the same Mercedes diesel as the ML). The Dodge Charger, Chrysler 300, and Jeep Wrangler have all been rumored over the past couple of years to be getting the V-6 in the USA as well. Confused yet? ;) I would like to see that 4-cylinder diesel in the new Dodge Dart--it's available in Europe in the Alfa Romeo sedan on which the Dart is based. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.
Since this problem started with the installation of another IP, and persists with a second IP, I would be very suspicious of the installer - doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result! Now, it is possible that you have two defective IPs, I've had that with alternators from FLAPS, but used Bosch IPs don't usually give that kind of trouble. I like the suggestion of checking the timing with the drip tube! THe ALDA, injectors, etc. did not go bad just when you changed the IP. It about has to be IP timing. Agreed Listen to OK Don. You don't have to go through the brain damage of drip tube timing. Just take off the valve cover and the #1 injection line. turn the engine over slowly (in the operating direction, CW facing the front of the engine.) and watch the cam lopes on #1. Exhaust is at the front of the engine, and #1 intake is the second lobe.After the intake lobe pushed the intake valve open and then lets it close, clear the fuel out of the taperec part of the top of the DV union on the top of the IP. You can blow this out with a soda straw, or soak it up with a paper towel. then turn the engine vey slowly until you see fuel start to rise in the small part of the DV union. This IS the beginning of delivery. Now read the cranshaft damper degree wheel at the pointer. It should be the setting for start of delivery or a couple of degrees late. If you don't get fuel, and you continue to turn the engine over until the exhaust valve opens and fuel is delivered about the time the exhaust valve closes, your IP is 360º out of time on the crank, or 180º out of time on the IP shaft. While this method is not 100% accurate for timing the IP, it WILL tell you if you are in the ballpark. I repeat it several times, because each time I can get closer to the actual start of injection. I used this method for timing OM 621s for years and I could get it within 1/2 degree of drip tube timing without all the hassle, or the danger of introducing dirt in the IP when you remove the DV for the trip tube timing by the book. If your timing is within 5 or even 10 degrees, you won't get the symptoms you describe. These engines are pretty forgiving. If timing is the issue, it was to be WAY out to get those symptoms. THat is why I asked a couple weeks ago how many times has this guy successfully changed IPs. It is a relevant question even if it makes you uncomfortable. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our 1980 300SD??S
Order linkage bushings, etc., from Gary at buyeuropharts.com Wilton Or better yet, buy them from the dealer or classic center. There are two. one at the shifter and one at the transmission. I think they are under a buck each at the stealership. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
On Jul 1, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: If you do have a bad pod (Climate Control Actuator), you can replace the entire unit or just get the internal rubber diaphragms from Geo. Murphy. Some pods have one diaphragm and others have two - the number you need is obvious once disassembled. http://www.perfanalysis.com/climate-control/acc-version-ii/ Not correct, unfortunately. The pods on the 124 are different from the ones on the 123 and 126. No user-serviceable parts inside as it used to say on the back of TVs. Best just to replace them all when the dash is out. Alex Clarification is good! George claims his kits work for all MBs from '81 - '91. There are also web forums with W124 owners saying they have successfully used his kits. He doesn't sell pods for the W124's oval legroom actuator or their small black pods but does supply those for the pods with the pink tops. If you pull the dash, you should probably check / replace them all. You aren't going to want to do it again any time soon. Dave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
That's right; that's good DR'ing - ded reckoning; gives you Probable Position (PP); add a sun line to it and you get a Most Probable Position (MP - a little better than just DR), but still not a Fix (known position). Cross a sun line with a bearing from another object of known location (star or earth-bound object) and one can get a Fix (know position). Course, in an earth-bound vehicle, one can usually look out the window at a known object/address and get a Fix - sometimes not possible if ya don't recognize what you're seeing. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Well, if you know the time, date, and position of the sun... I can imagine the car knowing the time and date to some fraction of a second, but would it know the angle of the sun well enough to locate itself within 200 miles or so? When you lose your GPS signal, you: - know where you are right now, including time, trajectory, and speed - know where the sun is, including which direction it is - know what time it is and where the sun is headed relative to your exact location Seems like it would be trivial to calculate, from light monitoring, which direction the car is turning; you still know speed and time, so it seems like it would be fairly simple to calculate a reasonably accurate course. That said I've never lost GPS when I was in a place where the sun was visible. Best, Tim no LORAN in cars? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
Yep; gyro makes course a little more accurate. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: Seems like it would be trivial to calculate, from light monitoring, which direction the car is turning; you still know speed and time, so it seems like it would be fairly simple to calculate a reasonably accurate course. And -that- said, why not just use a compass and gyroscope? You've got initial location, speed, direction, seems like you could figure out elevation changes. Of course if you always know where you are then the GPS is just a check anyway. :) Best, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.
Nice. I will store that info away in the back of my brain for future use. Does sound odd that 3 pumps are not working. Very curious to know what would happen if original pump was put back on. Seeing there is so much trouble I would not have a problem at all asking how many of these jobs he has successfully completed. He should not have a problem with answering honestly as he should understand your doubts. Mike On Jul 1, 2013 12:05 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Since this problem started with the installation of another IP, and persists with a second IP, I would be very suspicious of the installer - doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result! Now, it is possible that you have two defective IPs, I've had that with alternators from FLAPS, but used Bosch IPs don't usually give that kind of trouble. I like the suggestion of checking the timing with the drip tube! THe ALDA, injectors, etc. did not go bad just when you changed the IP. It about has to be IP timing. Agreed Listen to OK Don. You don't have to go through the brain damage of drip tube timing. Just take off the valve cover and the #1 injection line. turn the engine over slowly (in the operating direction, CW facing the front of the engine.) and watch the cam lopes on #1. Exhaust is at the front of the engine, and #1 intake is the second lobe.After the intake lobe pushed the intake valve open and then lets it close, clear the fuel out of the taperec part of the top of the DV union on the top of the IP. You can blow this out with a soda straw, or soak it up with a paper towel. then turn the engine vey slowly until you see fuel start to rise in the small part of the DV union. This IS the beginning of delivery. Now read the cranshaft damper degree wheel at the pointer. It should be the setting for start of delivery or a couple of degrees late. If you don't get fuel, and you continue to turn the engine over until the exhaust valve opens and fuel is delivered about the time the exhaust valve closes, your IP is 360º out of time on the crank, or 180º out of time on the IP shaft. While this method is not 100% accurate for timing the IP, it WILL tell you if you are in the ballpark. I repeat it several times, because each time I can get closer to the actual start of injection. I used this method for timing OM 621s for years and I could get it within 1/2 degree of drip tube timing without all the hassle, or the danger of introducing dirt in the IP when you remove the DV for the trip tube timing by the book. If your timing is within 5 or even 10 degrees, you won't get the symptoms you describe. These engines are pretty forgiving. If timing is the issue, it was to be WAY out to get those symptoms. THat is why I asked a couple weeks ago how many times has this guy successfully changed IPs. It is a relevant question even if it makes you uncomfortable. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Dave Cavner w123wa...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 1, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: The pods on the 124 are different from the ones on the 123 and 126. No user-serviceable parts inside as it used to say on the back of TVs. Best just to replace them all when the dash is out. Alex Clarification is good! George claims his kits work for all MBs from '81 - '91. There are also web forums with W124 owners saying they have successfully used his kits. You may be right. The last time I checked into this was about five years ago and at that time I remember postings from 124 owners saying the opposite (that Murphy said his repair kit would work on their pods and it didn't). I still think that it is better to not scrimp and just replace them wholesale--you don't want to have to pull the dash more than once! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:13 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Course, in an earth-bound vehicle, one can usually look out the window at a known object/address and get a Fix - sometimes not possible if ya don't recognize what you're seeing. ;) Hence the fun of http://geoguessr.com/ ... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Pfff, thats how I ALWAYS opened the hood on my '81 300TD. It even came with a pair of vice grips. My '85 190D had a nasty cable and kept breaking the under dash lever which sadly on the w201 is plastic. Had I kept the car I'd have replaced the cable. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:39:29 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: CABHyH=zjh2rfq3urzecqefe-t+0l7hl0rk71n+0jhjhagj2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook the handle end of the cable from the wall of the car and pull on the entire thing. Pop! Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
BTW, condensation down low above def vents on OUTSIDE of windshield of my 91 350SDL this morning; confirms that she's blowing ICE COLD; ambient temp = 79F; humidity 90%. Yep defrost vents are leaking; not worried 'bout it at all - just glad it's blowing ICE COLD. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dave Cavner w123wa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T On Jul 1, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: If you do have a bad pod (Climate Control Actuator), you can replace the entire unit or just get the internal rubber diaphragms from Geo. Murphy. Some pods have one diaphragm and others have two - the number you need is obvious once disassembled. http://www.perfanalysis.com/climate-control/acc-version-ii/ Not correct, unfortunately. The pods on the 124 are different from the ones on the 123 and 126. No user-serviceable parts inside as it used to say on the back of TVs. Best just to replace them all when the dash is out. Alex Clarification is good! George claims his kits work for all MBs from '81 - '91. There are also web forums with W124 owners saying they have successfully used his kits. He doesn't sell pods for the W124's oval legroom actuator or their small black pods but does supply those for the pods with the pink tops. If you pull the dash, you should probably check / replace them all. You aren't going to want to do it again any time soon. Dave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Replacing the hood release cable is a job even a citizen of Washington, D.C. can accomplish. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Pfff, thats how I ALWAYS opened the hood on my '81 300TD. It even came with a pair of vice grips. My '85 190D had a nasty cable and kept breaking the under dash lever which sadly on the w201 is plastic. Had I kept the car I'd have replaced the cable. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:39:29 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: CABHyH=zjh2rfq3urzecqefe-t+0l7hl0rk71n+0jhjhagj2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook the handle end of the cable from the wall of the car and pull on the entire thing. Pop! Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
What about serfs? --R On 7/1/13 12:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Replacing the hood release cable is a job even a citizen of Washington, D.C. can accomplish. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Pfff, thats how I ALWAYS opened the hood on my '81 300TD. It even came with a pair of vice grips. My '85 190D had a nasty cable and kept breaking the under dash lever which sadly on the w201 is plastic. Had I kept the car I'd have replaced the cable. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:39:29 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: CABHyH=zjh2rfq3urzecqefe-t+0l7hl0rk71n+0jhjhagj2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook the handle end of the cable from the wall of the car and pull on the entire thing. Pop! Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Replace the pods/actuators while the box is on the table/bench. I have spoken. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Dave Cavner w123wa...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 1, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: The pods on the 124 are different from the ones on the 123 and 126. No user-serviceable parts inside as it used to say on the back of TVs. Best just to replace them all when the dash is out. Alex Clarification is good! George claims his kits work for all MBs from '81 - '91. There are also web forums with W124 owners saying they have successfully used his kits. You may be right. The last time I checked into this was about five years ago and at that time I remember postings from 124 owners saying the opposite (that Murphy said his repair kit would work on their pods and it didn't). I still think that it is better to not scrimp and just replace them wholesale--you don't want to have to pull the dash more than once! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Got it opened? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Replacing the hood release cable is a job even a citizen of Washington, D.C. can accomplish. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Pfff, thats how I ALWAYS opened the hood on my '81 300TD. It even came with a pair of vice grips. My '85 190D had a nasty cable and kept breaking the under dash lever which sadly on the w201 is plastic. Had I kept the car I'd have replaced the cable. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:39:29 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: CABHyH=zjh2rfq3urzecqefe-t+0l7hl0rk71n+0jhjhagj2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook the handle end of the cable from the wall of the car and pull on the entire thing. Pop! Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D no start
Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt would not crank. Without charger no dash lights, nothing. Not sure what's going on. I replaced the starter on this car several years ago, my friend drove it for a few months then he couldn't start it. He let it sit for a year and a half and now this. What could be going on? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D no start
Bad battery or severely corroded battery terminals? Mike On Jul 1, 2013 12:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt would not crank. Without charger no dash lights, nothing. Not sure what's going on. I replaced the starter on this car several years ago, my friend drove it for a few months then he couldn't start it. He let it sit for a year and a half and now this. What could be going on? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dogde WAS:Subaru Diesel
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I know the cheep liberty has an eyetalyeen Diesel, but I think that is an inline 4 cyl. I'd expect a v6 in the grand caravan. According to Wikipedia the base engine on the Grand Caravan in Europe, and the only diesel, is the same VM Motori 4-cylinder as was sold here in the Liberty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VM_Motori The Chevy Cruze diesel now on sale in the USA uses a smaller version from the same engine family. (VM Motori was part-owned by GM until recently.) VM Motori now is producing a V-6 diesel as well, which is the one in the 2013 Grand Cherokee (unlike the previous-generation GC which was available with the same Mercedes diesel as the ML). The Dodge Charger, Chrysler 300, and Jeep Wrangler have all been rumored over the past couple of years to be getting the V-6 in the USA as well. Confused yet? ;) I would like to see that 4-cylinder diesel in the new Dodge Dart--it's available in Europe in the Alfa Romeo sedan on which the Dart is based. Alex No. not confused. just nothing there to be excited about. The promise of MB Diesel in all the 2007 dogdes WAS exciting. it just never materialized. and the cheep grand whatever Diesel was $60,000!!! LIke I told the salesdrone For $60k, I'd just buy a real Mercedes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D no start
So if battery was bad then why wouldn't it even crank with battery charger set 225A start mode. Why did it initially crank with battery charger and now not? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Bad battery or severely corroded battery terminals? Mike On Jul 1, 2013 12:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt would not crank. Without charger no dash lights, nothing. Not sure what's going on. I replaced the starter on this car several years ago, my friend drove it for a few months then he couldn't start it. He let it sit for a year and a half and now this. What could be going on? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D no start
Sure sounds like it to me, maybe an internal short? Last winter my 240D made a weird sound when I tried to start it in the airport parking garage, on the second attempt it started. Then a couple weeks later at work it was a no-go. I jumped out and with a crescent wrench pulled the ground cable of the battery (it was a little loose) rotated it a bit on the post and tightened it back up. A colleague I'd never spoken to before came over and asked me if I was all right, I told him to wait a second. Jumped in the car and it fired right up. As I closed the hood I said I'm all set, he said Color me amazed. Now he tells people around the office what a wizard I am. -Curt The man, the myth, the office legend Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 13:03:27 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D no start Message-ID: CALHJ_1CC=ezyovaps2opzznxcf8worj4egujhf6aqojfkan...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bad battery or severely corroded battery terminals? Mike On Jul 1, 2013 12:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt would not crank. Without charger no dash lights, nothing. Not sure what's going on. I replaced the starter on this car several years ago, my friend drove it for a few months then he couldn't start it. He let it sit for a year and a half and now this. What could be going on? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I'm Not Dead Yet, I'm Feeling Better!
I noticed that ATVM is still active on eBay. I thought he died a while back? Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D no start
Ground strap engine to body (on the 79 300TD is down above the transmission at back of block)? --R On 7/1/13 12:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt would not crank. Without charger no dash lights, nothing. Not sure what's going on. I replaced the starter on this car several years ago, my friend drove it for a few months then he couldn't start it. He let it sit for a year and a half and now this. What could be going on? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm Not Dead Yet, I'm Feeling Better!
Armin? He was in poor health wel over decade ago but his bottoless inventory lives on, I guess... On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I noticed that ATVM is still active on eBay. I thought he died a while back? Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D no start
Yep, that's what a coupla attorneys and judges said years ago when SWMBO called me that our 80 240D wouldn't start after a meeting with 'em for Arts Council fund raising. I rushed over, jumped out of the car with a stick, lifted the hood and told her to start it when I bang the starter. One bang with the stick and just a touch of starter and it fired right up, of course. Looks of amazement, cheering and acclamations, etc., from the assembled gallery as I lowered the hood and jumped back in my Caravan. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D no start Sure sounds like it to me, maybe an internal short? Last winter my 240D made a weird sound when I tried to start it in the airport parking garage, on the second attempt it started. Then a couple weeks later at work it was a no-go. I jumped out and with a crescent wrench pulled the ground cable of the battery (it was a little loose) rotated it a bit on the post and tightened it back up. A colleague I'd never spoken to before came over and asked me if I was all right, I told him to wait a second. Jumped in the car and it fired right up. As I closed the hood I said I'm all set, he said Color me amazed. Now he tells people around the office what a wizard I am. -Curt The man, the myth, the office legend Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 13:03:27 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D no start Message-ID: CALHJ_1CC=ezyovaps2opzznxcf8worj4egujhf6aqojfkan...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bad battery or severely corroded battery terminals? Mike On Jul 1, 2013 12:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt would not crank. Without charger no dash lights, nothing. Not sure what's going on. I replaced the starter on this car several years ago, my friend drove it for a few months then he couldn't start it. He let it sit for a year and a half and now this. What could be going on? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm Not Dead Yet, I'm Feeling Better!
And I see his feedback has gotten better. He must be dead. Dan On Jul 1, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Armin? He was in poor health wel over decade ago but his bottoless inventory lives on, I guess... On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I noticed that ATVM is still active on eBay. I thought he died a while back? Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
Dieselhead wrote: PreXACKLY! When I lived in paradise, I heard many military and military family members whining about there's nothing to do. They were insane. Somebody complained about being in Pearl Harbor, and the Japanese were not dropping bombs on him? Either they're insane, or they thought naval bases should come with more brothels. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm Not Dead Yet, I'm Feeling Better!
LOL! I met him a couple times ISO some parts for my W11 3.5 coupe. His place is near the Cal Ripken baseball complex north of Balmer. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: And I see his feedback has gotten better. He must be dead. Dan On Jul 1, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Armin? He was in poor health wel over decade ago but his bottoless inventory lives on, I guess... On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I noticed that ATVM is still active on eBay. I thought he died a while back? Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:06:47 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: You caught the biggest issue here, Tim... if you have visible sun, you almost certainly have visibility to at least a few GPS satellites. But generally, in car navigation uses three things for positioning: GPS, Wheel speed, and a gyroscope. Between these there, positioning is very accurate even in challenging situations like in tunnels, inner city, etc. Even without GPS signal, a well calibrated system will keep its position very well for a long time. This is one huge advantage over the PND dash-top units that rely only on GPS. PND? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
But it sure acts like one. On Jul 1, 2013 2:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm Not Dead Yet, I'm Feeling Better!
He had a finnie I looked at years ago. I was interested until I found that the description and the pictures didn't *quite* match up. When pressed about the details he got rather ugly, which I later found was not uncommon for him, or so others told me. Dan On Jul 1, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! I met him a couple times ISO some parts for my W11 3.5 coupe. His place is near the Cal Ripken baseball complex north of Balmer. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: And I see his feedback has gotten better. He must be dead. Dan On Jul 1, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Armin? He was in poor health wel over decade ago but his bottoless inventory lives on, I guess... On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I noticed that ATVM is still active on eBay. I thought he died a while back? Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D no start
It was the battery. Dead batteries can obviously present in weird ways! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2013, at 1:58 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, that's what a coupla attorneys and judges said years ago when SWMBO called me that our 80 240D wouldn't start after a meeting with 'em for Arts Council fund raising. I rushed over, jumped out of the car with a stick, lifted the hood and told her to start it when I bang the starter. One bang with the stick and just a touch of starter and it fired right up, of course. Looks of amazement, cheering and acclamations, etc., from the assembled gallery as I lowered the hood and jumped back in my Caravan. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D no start Sure sounds like it to me, maybe an internal short? Last winter my 240D made a weird sound when I tried to start it in the airport parking garage, on the second attempt it started. Then a couple weeks later at work it was a no-go. I jumped out and with a crescent wrench pulled the ground cable of the battery (it was a little loose) rotated it a bit on the post and tightened it back up. A colleague I'd never spoken to before came over and asked me if I was all right, I told him to wait a second. Jumped in the car and it fired right up. As I closed the hood I said I'm all set, he said Color me amazed. Now he tells people around the office what a wizard I am. -Curt The man, the myth, the office legend Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 13:03:27 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D no start Message-ID: CALHJ_1CC=ezyovaps2opzznxcf8worj4egujhf6aqojfkan...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bad battery or severely corroded battery terminals? Mike On Jul 1, 2013 12:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt would not crank. Without charger no dash lights, nothing. Not sure what's going on. I replaced the starter on this car several years ago, my friend drove it for a few months then he couldn't start it. He let it sit for a year and a half and now this. What could be going on? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk
Can the turn signal stalk on a 78 240D be repaired-as in, is it eligible to have the detents filed? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm Not Dead Yet, I'm Feeling Better!
Or to put it more politically correctly, he is/was a colorful character. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: He had a finnie I looked at years ago. I was interested until I found that the description and the pictures didn't *quite* match up. When pressed about the details he got rather ugly, which I later found was not uncommon for him, or so others told me. Dan On Jul 1, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! I met him a couple times ISO some parts for my W11 3.5 coupe. His place is near the Cal Ripken baseball complex north of Balmer. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: And I see his feedback has gotten better. He must be dead. Dan On Jul 1, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Armin? He was in poor health wel over decade ago but his bottoless inventory lives on, I guess... On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I noticed that ATVM is still active on eBay. I thought he died a while back? Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm Not Dead Yet, I'm Feeling Better!
Somebody gave him bad feedback for a W108 teleterometer last month. What is that, it looks like a Fahrenheit water temperature gauge? http://search.ebay.com/110738635939 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
So does water if it comes right down to it... I'd start with a REAL penetrating lubricant, about the only one at FLAPS is PB Blaster or Seafoam Deep Creep (which I don't like though Dimitri does I think), I've got some Rotunda from Ford thats fantastic but smells terrible. Once you get it free'd up clean it with carb cleaner and use some real cable lube which doesn't attract dirt. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 15:22:01 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: CAC35L=sareqn97yjsroxoo-zeqc5xy5xx03txzzfzmqtooc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 But it sure acts like one. On Jul 1, 2013 2:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R On 7/1/13 3:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But it sure acts like one. On Jul 1, 2013 2:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D no start
Shoulda seen the looks Toni used to get jumping the solenoid on our old 240d with a big allen wrench. Nuttin hotter than a cute chick under the hood of a German car...lol Mike On Jul 1, 2013 1:59 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, that's what a coupla attorneys and judges said years ago when SWMBO called me that our 80 240D wouldn't start after a meeting with 'em for Arts Council fund raising. I rushed over, jumped out of the car with a stick, lifted the hood and told her to start it when I bang the starter. One bang with the stick and just a touch of starter and it fired right up, of course. Looks of amazement, cheering and acclamations, etc., from the assembled gallery as I lowered the hood and jumped back in my Caravan. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D no start Sure sounds like it to me, maybe an internal short? Last winter my 240D made a weird sound when I tried to start it in the airport parking garage, on the second attempt it started. Then a couple weeks later at work it was a no-go. I jumped out and with a crescent wrench pulled the ground cable of the battery (it was a little loose) rotated it a bit on the post and tightened it back up. A colleague I'd never spoken to before came over and asked me if I was all right, I told him to wait a second. Jumped in the car and it fired right up. As I closed the hood I said I'm all set, he said Color me amazed. Now he tells people around the office what a wizard I am. -Curt The man, the myth, the office legend Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 13:03:27 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D no start Message-ID: CALHJ_1CC=ezYovAps2oPZZnXCf8W**OrJ4eGUJhf6AQojFkAnB2g@mail.**gmail.comezyovaps2opzznxcf8worj4egujhf6aqojfkan...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bad battery or severely corroded battery terminals? Mike On Jul 1, 2013 12:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt would not crank. Without charger no dash lights, nothing. Not sure what's going on. I replaced the starter on this car several years ago, my friend drove it for a few months then he couldn't start it. He let it sit for a year and a half and now this. What could be going on? Sent from my iPhone __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm Not Dead Yet, I'm Feeling Better!
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:27:16 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Somebody gave him bad feedback for a W108 teleterometer last month. What is that, it looks like a Fahrenheit water temperature gauge? http://search.ebay.com/110738635939 A misspelling of tele-therometer, something that displays the temperature remotely from where it is measured. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm Not Dead Yet, I'm Feeling Better!
Craig wrote: A misspelling of tele-therometer, something that displays the temperature remotely from where it is measured. Another misspelling? How many m's in that word, one or two? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm Not Dead Yet, I'm Feeling Better!
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 17:35:56 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: A misspelling of tele-therometer, something that displays the temperature remotely from where it is measured. Another misspelling? How many m's in that word, one or two? Oops! Tele-thermometer. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm Not Dead Yet, I'm Feeling Better!
Yep, I thought I made a mistake yesterday, but, as it turns out, I was wrong. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm Not Dead Yet, I'm Feeling Better! On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 17:35:56 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: A misspelling of tele-therometer, something that displays the temperature remotely from where it is measured. Another misspelling? How many m's in that word, one or two? Oops! Tele-thermometer. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Well, at least I don't use Armor All on my vinyl surfaces... On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R On 7/1/13 3:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But it sure acts like one. On Jul 1, 2013 2:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Craig __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Try it on your seats --R On 7/1/13 6:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Well, at least I don't use Armor All on my vinyl surfaces... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
PND = Personal Navigation Device? OK Don, whose PND in the Cessna brought us from 120 miles out to ringt over the center of the home runway - we were impressed, given that it is one of the least expensive available. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: This is one huge advantage over the PND dash-top units that rely only on GPS. PND? Craig -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 e300
I have a 95 E300D 375K miles and still going, dark metallic green paint. It is my daily transport to and from work. It still get 33 MPG out on the highway. I have put 100K miles on it and I am the second owner. A real nice ride. I am currently waiting on a center muffler section that I will be changing this weekend and it can't get here quick enough. What would make the car a Special edition? I did send another email with a photo attached but didn't get posted Bob Massmann Oregoina, Ohio -Original Message- From: Craig Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 10:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 e300 On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 20:39:21 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not in CS. Definitely a meat and potatoes crowd for the most part. No tofu that I ever saw. Just a lot of the outdoorsy stuff, hence the Subarus. And Jeeps. We had a 1961 Willys Utility Wagon with a Ford 302. It went really well and got better mileage than the '59 Wagon we had with the Hurrican inline 6 cylinder engine. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 e300
See link: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/3156724-post18.html On 7/1/2013 9:13 PM, rmassm...@embarqmail.com wrote: I have a 95 E300D 375K miles and still going. What would make the car a Special edition? Bob Massmann Oregoina, Ohio -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.
I will try your method tomorrow to see how close the timing is. Then I will work with mechanic directly to get this car back on the road. I will also ask about experience with these diesel pumps. Mike On Jul 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Since this problem started with the installation of another IP, and persists with a second IP, I would be very suspicious of the installer - doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result! Now, it is possible that you have two defective IPs, I've had that with alternators from FLAPS, but used Bosch IPs don't usually give that kind of trouble. I like the suggestion of checking the timing with the drip tube! THe ALDA, injectors, etc. did not go bad just when you changed the IP. It about has to be IP timing. Agreed Listen to OK Don. You don't have to go through the brain damage of drip tube timing. Just take off the valve cover and the #1 injection line. turn the engine over slowly (in the operating direction, CW facing the front of the engine.) and watch the cam lopes on #1. Exhaust is at the front of the engine, and #1 intake is the second lobe.After the intake lobe pushed the intake valve open and then lets it close, clear the fuel out of the taperec part of the top of the DV union on the top of the IP. You can blow this out with a soda straw, or soak it up with a paper towel. then turn the engine vey slowly until you see fuel start to rise in the small part of the DV union. This IS the beginning of delivery. Now read the cranshaft damper degree wheel at the pointer. It should be the setting for start of delivery or a couple of degrees late. If you don't get fuel, and you continue to turn the engine over until the exhaust valve opens and fuel is delivered about the time the exhaust valve closes, your IP is 360º out of time on the crank, or 180º out of time on the IP shaft. While this method is not 100% accurate for timing the IP, it WILL tell you if you are in the ballpark. I repeat it several times, because each time I can get closer to the actual start of injection. I used this method for timing OM 621s for years and I could get it within 1/2 degree of drip tube timing without all the hassle, or the danger of introducing dirt in the IP when you remove the DV for the trip tube timing by the book. If your timing is within 5 or even 10 degrees, you won't get the symptoms you describe. These engines are pretty forgiving. If timing is the issue, it was to be WAY out to get those symptoms. THat is why I asked a couple weeks ago how many times has this guy successfully changed IPs. It is a relevant question even if it makes you uncomfortable. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subaru Diesel
Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: I think the reason given for why they backed out from selling cars with the new diesel engine in the USA was the usual--our screwy emissions laws, especially in California. Yes, that's why. They don't want to import cars that they can't sell in the biggest markets (NY and CA). -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.
Update - I changed the injectors and there was no change. Installed new/used/unmolested ALDA, it actually runs a little worse. I drove it today about 20 miles on the highway. It started very hard and would not not stay running without pushing the accelerator to the floor until it started to gain rpm's. Once on the road it continued to smoke and top speed was 60 mph with very low power. Tomorrow I will pop the valve cover and check the timing using the non-drip method. Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Jul 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Since this problem started with the installation of another IP, and persists with a second IP, I would be very suspicious of the installer - doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result! Now, it is possible that you have two defective IPs, I've had that with alternators from FLAPS, but used Bosch IPs don't usually give that kind of trouble. I like the suggestion of checking the timing with the drip tube! THe ALDA, injectors, etc. did not go bad just when you changed the IP. It about has to be IP timing. Agreed Listen to OK Don. You don't have to go through the brain damage of drip tube timing. Just take off the valve cover and the #1 injection line. turn the engine over slowly (in the operating direction, CW facing the front of the engine.) and watch the cam lopes on #1. Exhaust is at the front of the engine, and #1 intake is the second lobe.After the intake lobe pushed the intake valve open and then lets it close, clear the fuel out of the taperec part of the top of the DV union on the top of the IP. You can blow this out with a soda straw, or soak it up with a paper towel. then turn the engine vey slowly until you see fuel start to rise in the small part of the DV union. This IS the beginning of delivery. Now read the cranshaft damper degree wheel at the pointer. It should be the setting for start of delivery or a couple of degrees late. If you don't get fuel, and you continue to turn the engine over until the exhaust valve opens and fuel is delivered about the time the exhaust valve closes, your IP is 360º out of time on the crank, or 180º out of time on the IP shaft. While this method is not 100% accurate for timing the IP, it WILL tell you if you are in the ballpark. I repeat it several times, because each time I can get closer to the actual start of injection. I used this method for timing OM 621s for years and I could get it within 1/2 degree of drip tube timing without all the hassle, or the danger of introducing dirt in the IP when you remove the DV for the trip tube timing by the book. If your timing is within 5 or even 10 degrees, you won't get the symptoms you describe. These engines are pretty forgiving. If timing is the issue, it was to be WAY out to get those symptoms. THat is why I asked a couple weeks ago how many times has this guy successfully changed IPs. It is a relevant question even if it makes you uncomfortable. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D no start
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt would not crank. Without charger no dash lights, nothing. Not sure what's going on. I replaced the starter on this car several years ago, my friend drove it for a few months then he couldn't start it. He let it sit for a year and a half and now this. What could be going on? Your description is not very concise nor will it logically parse. So with some guessing as to what you tried and what did and didn't work... If the lights work with the charger connected, and don't work with the charger disconnected, then likely the battery is dead. If there is no lights with or without the charger, then there isn't current flowing through them because it is interrupted someware. Likely locations are: battery cable body ground connection battery-to-starter cable connection at the starter A very dead battery that is robbing all the current leaving none for the car. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. Craig wrote: But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Andrew wrote: But it sure acts like one. So does water. And Elmers glue - until it sets. If you want lubricant properties, I suggest using a lubricant. LPS1, LPS2, and LPS3 are _my_ favorites. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Can the turn signal stalk on a 78 240D be repaired-as in, is it eligible to have the detents filed? I'm a bit confused... What detents? And why do you want to file them? What should this repair? I am pretty sure my 1978 W123 turn signal assembly is exactly the same as the 1985 W123. I don't know if that means its eligible to have the detents filed or not. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.
Hey Mike, Sounds like you are learning a valuable lesson that all of us that don't know should.With a 30 year old German car you are much better off just learning to do the job yourself. Not trying to rub it in or anything like that. Just hoping other lurkers may learn from your/our experiences as a group. Thanks for posting, Mike On Jul 1, 2013 11:29 PM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: Update - I changed the injectors and there was no change. Installed new/used/unmolested ALDA, it actually runs a little worse. I drove it today about 20 miles on the highway. It started very hard and would not not stay running without pushing the accelerator to the floor until it started to gain rpm's. Once on the road it continued to smoke and top speed was 60 mph with very low power. Tomorrow I will pop the valve cover and check the timing using the non-drip method. Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Jul 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Since this problem started with the installation of another IP, and persists with a second IP, I would be very suspicious of the installer - doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result! Now, it is possible that you have two defective IPs, I've had that with alternators from FLAPS, but used Bosch IPs don't usually give that kind of trouble. I like the suggestion of checking the timing with the drip tube! THe ALDA, injectors, etc. did not go bad just when you changed the IP. It about has to be IP timing. Agreed Listen to OK Don. You don't have to go through the brain damage of drip tube timing. Just take off the valve cover and the #1 injection line. turn the engine over slowly (in the operating direction, CW facing the front of the engine.) and watch the cam lopes on #1. Exhaust is at the front of the engine, and #1 intake is the second lobe.After the intake lobe pushed the intake valve open and then lets it close, clear the fuel out of the taperec part of the top of the DV union on the top of the IP. You can blow this out with a soda straw, or soak it up with a paper towel. then turn the engine vey slowly until you see fuel start to rise in the small part of the DV union. This IS the beginning of delivery. Now read the cranshaft damper degree wheel at the pointer. It should be the setting for start of delivery or a couple of degrees late. If you don't get fuel, and you continue to turn the engine over until the exhaust valve opens and fuel is delivered about the time the exhaust valve closes, your IP is 360º out of time on the crank, or 180º out of time on the IP shaft. While this method is not 100% accurate for timing the IP, it WILL tell you if you are in the ballpark. I repeat it several times, because each time I can get closer to the actual start of injection. I used this method for timing OM 621s for years and I could get it within 1/2 degree of drip tube timing without all the hassle, or the danger of introducing dirt in the IP when you remove the DV for the trip tube timing by the book. If your timing is within 5 or even 10 degrees, you won't get the symptoms you describe. These engines are pretty forgiving. If timing is the issue, it was to be WAY out to get those symptoms. THat is why I asked a couple weeks ago how many times has this guy successfully changed IPs. It is a relevant question even if it makes you uncomfortable. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Is fish oil not a lubricant? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:11 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. Craig wrote: But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Andrew wrote: But it sure acts like one. So does water. And Elmers glue - until it sets. If you want lubricant properties, I suggest using a lubricant. LPS1, LPS2, and LPS3 are _my_ favorites. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subaru Diesel
More specifically the laws require that Subaru make a California emissions model in a certain percentage in order to be eligible to market them in the whole country so they say F you USA. At least that is what I have heard... Mike On Jul 1, 2013 10:01 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: I think the reason given for why they backed out from selling cars with the new diesel engine in the USA was the usual--our screwy emissions laws, especially in California. Yes, that's why. They don't want to import cars that they can't sell in the biggest markets (NY and CA). -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
No fish oil in WD40 (wife's tale). It's petro distillates. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Is fish oil not a lubricant? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:11 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. Craig wrote: But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Andrew wrote: But it sure acts like one. So does water. And Elmers glue - until it sets. If you want lubricant properties, I suggest using a lubricant. LPS1, LPS2, and LPS3 are _my_ favorites. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
