Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL - HELP!!

2014-07-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I always try to take a copy of the CL ad with me. If there is a serious disconnect between it and the actual car, I ask the seller to read it to me and point out the attributes they describe in the ad. In this case the seller said the car had been garaged all of its life. The roof paint was

[MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller

2014-07-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
A couple weeks ago a guy on BW puts a 1993 400SEL up for sale. He wants $3500. Full records, second owner, 210k miles, southern car, etc. From the photos, and he posts a lot of them, the car looks really nice. Warts? It's got a CEL. He doesn't know what it is, but the car drives fine. He wants

Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL - HELP!!

2014-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I always try to take a copy of the CL ad with me. If there is a serious disconnect between it and the actual car, I ask the seller to read it to me and point out the attributes they describe in the ad. I once drove 50 miles one way to pick up an old Filter

Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller

2014-07-23 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Pull a Kaleb. If he makes contract regarding your $1800 offer, tell him your offer is now $1200 (or less). Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jul 23, 2014 7:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A couple weeks ago a guy on BW puts a 1993 400SEL up for sale. He wants $3500.

[MBZ] Failyah to communicate

2014-07-23 Thread Van Knutson via Mercedes
Last night he bumps it, saying he's got to get it out of the driveway and he's accepting reasonable offers. I send him a PM and offer him $1800 with the offer good for 24 hours. After all, it's a $2000 car in my market No response. Something tells me I'm not going to get one. Dan

[MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue

2014-07-23 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Question for the list: Last year I had a used tranny installed in my 1980 300SD. The tranny was from a recycler in AZ. It supposedly only had 95K on it. My indie installed it. He said everything looked good and really clean, but it had been sitting in a really dry environment for who knows how

Re: [MBZ] Failyah to communicate

2014-07-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
What's that smell in this room? Didn't you notice it, Brick? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room?... There ain't nothin' more powerful than the odor of mendacity... You can smell it. It smells like death. Big Daddy, Cat on a Hot Tin Roof Sent from my iPad

Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller

2014-07-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
No need to be a d*ck about it. I helped him out with trying to figure out what the issues were, and even gave some direction on better marketing approaches. If he has unrealistic expectations of what it's worth, he's not getting it out of the driveway for a while. I'll pull a Kleb if he

Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller

2014-07-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah. His logic was all screwed up. Several people pointed that out. Like most delusional sellers, he ignored it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: In other words, he wants to dump the car while

Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue

2014-07-23 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
as for fluid, i'd try some trick shift On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:35 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Question for the list: Last year I had a used tranny installed in my 1980 300SD. The tranny was from a recycler in AZ. It supposedly only had 95K on it. My indie

[MBZ] Who lives in Kollyfawnya?

2014-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-man-driving-mercedes-killed-peacock-with-pellet-gun-officials-say-20140722-story.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue

2014-07-23 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Roger, quick reply. I have used M1 ATF in 3 MB trannies. 1 is still In Progress but shifts better, flaring stopped, downshift clunks gone etc. Miracle fluid. Fred said it might take 10k miles to feel difference. My 90 has 239k miles on original tranny- last 110k on M1 shifrs like new. YMMV On Jul

[MBZ] Mitch's Crackhead Neighbor

2014-07-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Wait for the bad news. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2086306-1985-300d-turbo-michigan.html#post9522026 Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Mitch's Crackhead Neighbor

2014-07-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yea, but it will be worth at least $17k when done. At this rate, I have a fortune sitting in the back yard. On 7/23/2014 10:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Wait for the bad news.

Re: [MBZ] W124 LCA's Vs BJ's?

2014-07-23 Thread Fmiser via Mercedes
Rich wrote: Also, worth taking the BJs and associated bits to a Benz shop to have them press the new BJ in with the proper tool, will take just a few minutes and not cost much, Fmiser wrote: Unless the nearest shop is over 100 miles [160 km] away. Then it can be quicker

Re: [MBZ] Mitch's Crackhead Neighbor

2014-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Interior is about a 7-8 out of 10. Of course, I didn't bother to clean it at all, but that'll clean right up. For another $200 I will detail it. --R On 7/23/14 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Wait for the bad news.

[MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-23 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
FYI - In case anyone is interested. I gave up any thought of doing it myself... Here's the cost comparison of installing complete LCA's Vs BJ's Bushings: *RR LCAs -* Labor - RR LCAs $240 (LR) Parts - 2 LCA's Bolts- $194 ea = $402 Total = *$642* *RR BJs, Bushings Bolts:* Labor = $300 (LR)

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-23 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I would wonder the opposite if 112 extra was cheap to have it all done at once since it seems you plan to keep the car. My 2 cents. On Jul 23, 2014 12:12 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: FYI - In case anyone is interested. I gave up any thought of doing it myself...

Re: [MBZ] Mitch's Crackhead Neighbor

2014-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Is that a good blue dash or a dash cover? I get the idea the offset on those silly wheels is more fitting for a 124 than a 123. I'd give a Kaleb (Five Benjamins) for it but not with my present backlog of unfinished projects. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller

2014-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I am a little hung up on the meaning of BW and CEL. I didn't want to appear stupid, but probably a little late for that... On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah. His logic was all screwed up. Several people pointed that out. Like most

Re: [MBZ] Who lives in Kollyfawnya?

2014-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Nice catch, Rich. I met a guy less than 10 miles from the DC beltway who has 13 laying hens in his b ack yard (all varieties and egg colors imaginable). Roosters are prohibited by Montgomery COunty (MD ordinance. He is selling out and moving his wife + 2 pre-teen boys to a 20 acre farm in North

Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller

2014-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I am a little hung up on the meaning of BW and CEL. I didn't want to appear stupid, but probably a little late for that... BW made me hesitate for a few seconds, before I realized it must be BenzWorld. CEL = Check Engine Light SES = Service Engine Soon

Re: [MBZ] Mitch's Crackhead Neighbor

2014-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
How do you get MB Tex to blister like that? You could claim it's reptile skin. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is that a good blue dash or a dash cover? I get the idea the offset on those silly wheels is more fitting for a 124 than a

Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller

2014-07-23 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
There's no stupid question. If one doesn't know, how ya gonna find out 'fya don't ask. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July

Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue

2014-07-23 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
+1 on the M1 ATF. Definitely sounds like it may help your transmission. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller

2014-07-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sorry. BW = BenzWorld, as in BenzWorld forums CEL = Check Engine Light Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 23, 2014, at 12:58 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: There's no stupid question. If one doesn't know, how ya gonna find out 'fya don't ask. ;) Wilton -

Re: [MBZ] Mitch's Crackhead Neighbor

2014-07-23 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎It's not tex. It's leather.  Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.   Original Message   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 11:56 AM To: Mitch Haley; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mitch's Crackhead Neighbor How do

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-23 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Double check your labor quotes, doesn't make sense that there is only one extra hour required (assuming $60 per hour) to remove/install four bushings and two ball joints. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller

2014-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not to be too harsh about it, there are a ton of stupid questions asked all the time. I can provide an example of a such a question I posed in my Glacial Geology class in grad school, if someone really wants to hear it. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-23 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Ordering them from our Emperor of Parts, I assume? After all, he has been of assistance with identifying proper vendors and sorting out part numbers, right? It's important that you pay it back, so to speak. At least it's the right thing to do, of course. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 23,

Re: [MBZ] Who lives in Kollyfawnya?

2014-07-23 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Mike Ditka lives in CA? I'm surprised, this is too easy. Tell the Sierra Club a non-native species is destroying the habitat, they will sue for said invaders to be removed, Fish and Wildlife will spend millions of tax-payer dollars killing them, rich liberal's Mercedes and other high-end cars

Re: [MBZ] Mitch's Crackhead Neighbor

2014-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
That's rare. I thought my 1983 wagon was the only 123 with leather seating. Mine hasn't cracked like that, though. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: ‎It's not tex. It's leather. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original

Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-23 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:30:47 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On a more positive note, some of you might enjoy having a look at this: http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/5-happiest-cities-in-u-s-all-in-1-state/ Apparently the study was done by some group from an Ivy League

Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-23 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
So what makes 'em so happy? Is it sold by the gallon? Half gallon jar? Quart jar? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:59 PM

Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller

2014-07-23 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: Not to be too harsh about it, there are a ton of stupid questions asked all the time. What stupid questions have you come across recently? ...is that stupid enough?... Now tell us your stupid Glacial Geology Grad School question. mao ___

Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-23 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Grant wrote: Failure of the citizens to resist and punish criminal acts foster an environment which offer least resistance.. Flesh that out for me/us, please. What can a citizen do to resist and punish? Perhaps what I do is what you will flesh out - I participate as little as possible in the

Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-23 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
WILTON wrote: So what makes 'em so happy? Is it sold by the gallon? Half gallon jar? Quart jar? ;) I imbibed some moonshine in NC - interesting experience. Everyone used the same Mason jar in the freezer. Open freezer, take a swig, put the jar back in the freezer. Good stuff? - I dunno,

[MBZ] W123 parts

2014-07-23 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts-- 123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers lamps, condenser, radiator, etc. Strangely enough I have a oil cooler. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905

Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue

2014-07-23 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I also used M 1 gear oil in manny tranny of my stick 240D. +1 on the M1 ATF. Definitely sounds like it may help your transmission. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

[MBZ] Fw: OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-23 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
- Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S. Now you've reminded me, and I'm gonna hafta tell it again. ;) One day in the summer of

Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue

2014-07-23 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:49:58 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I also used M 1 gear oil in manny tranny of my stick 240D. +1 on the M1 ATF. Definitely sounds like it may help your transmission. Use only ATF in Mercedes manual transmissions. Gear oil will damage

Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-23 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
so, did it kill the corn near to where you poured it?? Randy On 23/07/2014 5:19 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: Now you've reminded me, and I'm gonna hafta tell it again. ;) One day in the summer of ’47, at 13, I was driving a mule pulling an empty tobacco truck (used to haul the

Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue

2014-07-23 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Is that spec for 78 240D? MB indy shop put it in. On Jul 23, 2014 6:47 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:49:58 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I also used M 1 gear oil in manny tranny of my stick 240D. +1 on the M1 ATF. Definitely

Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue

2014-07-23 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
ATF is, I don't know about M1, though I did use it in the '70 220D, '81 240D, and '84 190D - all with manual tranny's. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is that spec for 78 240D? MB indy shop put it in. On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:49:58

Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue

2014-07-23 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
My brother had it done so I will check records. Tranny wss fine. This is the deadhead 240D curt has. On Jul 23, 2014 8:09 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: ATF is, I don't know about M1, though I did use it in the '70 220D, '81 240D, and '84 190D - all with manual tranny's. On Wed, Jul 23,

Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue

2014-07-23 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 19:46:40 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is that spec for 78 240D? MB indy shop put it in. Sounds like you need to find a new indy shop. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD Tranny Issue

2014-07-23 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Thats spec for most manual transmissions. My '88 GMC used the same. The Jetta uses GL4 gear oil but the transmission on that FWD car is really a transaxle... -Curt From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

2014-07-23 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Alex, I'll take Mercedes Repairs for $300. What is the stuff John needs to repair front end damage? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jul 23, 2014 5:48 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts-- 123.133, hood, grille, driver fender,

Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison

2014-07-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Lower control arms come with new bushings and new ball joints, so it's just a swap complete. Have to do a front end alignment in either case if you replace the bushings, ball joints usually not. Labor is about the same, it only take a couple minutes to pop the bushings and ball joints in

Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

2014-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If you're asking me, I have two spare grilles IIRC and a bunch of palomino door and rear wagon panels On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts-- 123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille,

Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller

2014-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
OK, you twisted my arm. We learned that when the glaciers advanced during the ice age they gouged the bedrock with linear markings. These lines. still visible, indicate in which direction the glacier was moving. My hand shot up and I posed this question: When the glaciers retreated didn't they

Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller

2014-07-23 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Mention of glacial activity reminds me of an area in the hills near Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland, where the rounded, granite top of a hill was polished to a mirror finish by the glacier now visible about 10 miles away. I enjoyed driving my truck up onto it and watching my many visitors,