Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

2015-02-06 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels?

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 Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
 
 At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes..
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world-embraces-
 diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment_r=0
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Re: [MBZ] Greenest and Meanest for 2015 Model year from Greencars.org

2015-02-06 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Isn't that the reason you have MB wagons? So you can toss the groceries 
in the back.


RB


On 06/02/2015 10:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Agree - they are quite impractical, but I am tempted to get one as a single
occupant commuter car.  Could toss the groceries in the back.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Lame that the two meanest were both work trucks. You can't haul much
with a Smart...
-Curt
   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 11:01 AM
  Subject: [MBZ] Greenest and Meanest for 2015 Model year from Greencars.org

Mercedes tops the list for the Smart electric but has two on the meanest
list as well.
 GreenestModel Year 2015 Make and model Specifications Emission standard
a MPG city MPG hwy Green Score Mercedez-Benz Smart Fortwo Elec. Drive
Convertible / Coupe 1, b Electric (Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.61 2.77
61 Chevrolet
Spark EV b Electric (Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.81 3.24 59 Fiat 500E b
Electric
(Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.63 3.21 59 Toyota Prius C 1.5L 4, auto CVT
SULEV
II / Bin 3 53 46 57 Nissan Leaf b Electric (Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.75
3.01 57 Toyota Prius Plug-in Hybrid 2, c Electric (Li-ion bat.) / 1.8L 4,
auto CVT PZEV / Bin 3 3.90 / 51 3.04 / 49 54 Lexus CT 200H 1.8L 4,
auto CVT SULEV
II / Bin 3 51 48 54 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.5L 4, auto CVT Bin 3 44 47 54
Honda
Civic Natural Gas 1.8L 4, auto [CNG] PZEV / Bin 2 27 38 54 Mitsubishi
Mirage 1.2L
3, auto CVT Bin 5 / LEV II 37 44 54 Ford Focus Electric b Electric (Li-ion
bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.27 2.94 53 Volkswagen Jetta Hybrid 1.4L 4, auto [P]
PZEV
/ Bin 3 42 48 53


[CNG] denotes compressed natural gas
[P] Denotes Premium Gasoline.
Auto CVT denotes continuously variable automatic transmission.
a A listing with two emission standards (e.g., Tier 2 Bin 2/ PZEV) denotes
a single vehicle carrying both a federal and a California emission
certification. Green Scores for such listings reflect the cleaner of the
two certifications.
b Fuel economy for electric vehicles is provided in miles per
kilowatt-hour.
c Fuel economy for plug-in hybrids is provided in miles per gallon for
gasoline operation and in miles per kilowatt-hour for electric operation
1. The gasoline-powered version of this vehicle scores a 53
2. The non-plug in Prius also earns a Green Score of 54
- See more at:
http://greenercars.org/greenest-meanest/greenest#sthash.hc0PhKlF.dpuf

Meanest
 Model Year 2015 Make and model Specifications Emission standard a MPG
city MPG hwy Green Score Ram 2500 (CLASS 2B) 1, 2 5.7L 8, auto 4wd LEV II
12
17 17 Chevrolet G2500 Express / GMC Savana (CARGO CONVERSION) (MDPV)
3, 4, 5 6.0L
8, auto Bin 8 / ULEV II 10 15 18 Bugatti Veyron 8.0L 16, auto Awd [P] Bin 5
/ LEV II 8 15 19 Bentley Mulsanne 6.8L 8, auto stk [P] Bin 5 / LEV II 11 18
21 Mercedes-Benz G 63 AMG 5.5L 8, auto 4wd [P] ULEV II / Bin 5 12 14
21 Mercedes-Benz
G 550 5.5L 8, auto 4wd [P] ULEV II / Bin 5 12 15 22 Rolls-Royce Phantom
Drophead Coupe 6 6.7L 12, auto stk [P] Bin 5 / LEV II 11 19 23 Lamborghini
Aventador Roadster 6.5L 12, auto Awd [P] Bin 5 / LEV II 10 16 23 Toyota
Sequoia FFV 7 5.7L 8, auto stk 4wd Bin 5 13 17 23 Lexus LX 570 5.7L 8, auto
stk 4wd [P] ULEV II / Bin 5 12 17 23 Ferrari FF 6.3L 12, auto 4wd [P] Bin 5
/ LEV II 11 16 23 Nissan Armada 5.6L 8, auto 4wd Bin 5 / LEV II 12 18 23


auto stk denotes manually adjustable automatic transmission
a. A listing with two emission standards (e.g., Tier 2 Bin 2/ PZEV) denotes
a single vehicle carrying both a federal and a California emission
certification. Green Scores for such listings reflect the cleaner of the
two certifications.
1. The 2wd version of this vehicle earns a Green Score of 18
2. The ULEV version of this vehicle earns a Green Score of 21
3. The Tier 2-only versions of these vehicles (bin 8 ) also earn a Green
Score of 18
4. The passenger versions of these vehicles earn a Green Score of 19
5. The 3500 version of these vehicles earn a Green Score of 19
6. The Rolls-Royce Phantom EWB also earns a Green Score of 23
7. The non-FFV version of this vehicle also earns a Green Score of 23
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http://greenercars.org/greenest-meanest/meanest#sthash.vKgvzAUe.dpuf
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Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

2015-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
T Boone Pickens wants USA to invest $$billions converting heavy duty trucks
and diesel trucks to LNG.  Would help emissions and wipe out the trade
deficit.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Seems like they might want to re-think diesel trucks, buses, construction
 equipment etc.
 Those engines tend to be bigger and dirtier than most cars.
 I think a lot of the newer big diesel trucks are better than they used to
 be but there still seems to be a fair amount of black smoke coming out of
 trucks, buses, trains etc.

 RB

 On 06/02/2015 1:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

 Here it is:
 http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/01/france-
 planning-to-eliminate-diesel-powered-cars/


 I also read London plans to follow suit.

 In the US, taxes are much higher on Diesel (reverse of Europe), which
 explains much.

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 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:38 PM
 To: 'Andrew Strasfogel'; 'Mercedes Discussion List'
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

 Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels?

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 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM
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 Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

 At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes..

 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world-

 embraces-

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[MBZ] LNG Was: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

2015-02-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Andy sez: T Boone Pickens wants USA to invest $$billions converting 
heavy duty trucks

and diesel trucks to LNG.  Would help emissions and wipe out the trade
deficit.


If T Boone wants it done, he can use his own money to convince some 
big fleets to convert.  I don't care to have money taken at gunpoint 
(taxes) to set up a system for T Boone, or anyone else to make more 
money.



T Boone (not so Slim) Pickins

I like the real Slim Pickens

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Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

2015-02-06 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Here it is:
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/01/france-planning-to-eliminate-diese
l-powered-cars/

I also read London plans to follow suit.  

In the US, taxes are much higher on Diesel (reverse of Europe), which
explains much.

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 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:38 PM
 To: 'Andrew Strasfogel'; 'Mercedes Discussion List'
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
 
 Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels?
 
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  Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM
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  Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA
 
  At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes..
 
  http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world-
 embraces-
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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
It is really no different if you buy a dell, etc.  The restore discs 
are specific to that hardware.




What Curt said. There is no downgrade path.

Point of reference for the Mac folks out there:

I bought a Late 2008 MacBook from someone this week. They wanted to 
wipe it before they sent it to me, so they tossed an OS X 10.6.4 CD 
in it it (it was running OS X 10.6.6), booted from the CD and ran 
the installer.


Every time they tried this, the installer would fail, saying that 
Cannot install OS X on this system.  I had them erase and 
partition the drive, etc., all to no avail.


So Wednesday night, after a good hour of email exchanges with the 
guy, who wanted to pull the plug and call off the sale, I asked him 
if the CD he was using was the original restore disk for the MacBook.


No, it's from the iMac I'm emailing you from.

head slap

Restore disks for Apple products are hardware specific, that is, you 
typically can't use a restore disk from a laptop to restore a 
desktop and vice-versa.  The image is unique and has drivers for the 
type of hardware only.


The only media you can use cross hardware are retail installers.

I told him to pack up the machine and send it and I would install a new OS.

Oy.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

2015-02-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

At least until they can figure out a way to tax them more

--R


On 2/6/15 2:37 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels?


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Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes..

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world-embraces-
diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment_r=0
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Re: [MBZ] Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
I use Acronis Trueimage, and have used it several times.  It's pretty user
friendly and can shrink or expand volumes to suit a new drive.  It also can
do automated backups, but I don't use that feature.  I think you can get a
free trial perion, although I bought it on sale for about $10 IIRC.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 6:36 AM
To: Mercedes List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Korean malware FIXED

Randy,

There are any number of programs out there for free that will allow you to
clone a hard drive. CloneZilla is good as are others. Most of these have
walk throughs that show how it's done.

I haven't cloned a personal (PC) drive in some time, so I can't offer
specifics as far as software recommendations. I clone Mac drives regularly
using Carbon Copy, a Mac program for cloning that's been around for years. I
also use Disk Utility to make compressed image files for archive and backup
purposes as well.  Disk Utility is a native program that's been a part of
the Mac OS for years, and it's probably one of the best things they ever put
together in that regard.

The PC work I've done has been enterprise level stuff, so the tools I used
aren't typically available to the general public, or they're rather
expensive for the average person.

There have got to be some list members out there with PCs that are cloning
drives.

??

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 5, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 So, can you tell me in simple terms how to do this?
 
 I have a portable hard drive and would like to do essentially a clone of
the hard drive on my computer.
 I understand there is a way to do it by booting from a flash drive so that
the whole of C can be accessed to copy it.
 I assume I could use something like ghost or clonezilla to make the copy.
 The question is - exactly what do I need on the flash drive to make it
bootable and let me make the copy?
 It is Windows 7 Home Premium.
 
 My IT guy says it is simple and he will do it for me but he is busy and
despite a number of reminders, has yet to do so.
 He is good however, in the sense that when I had a hard drive going bad,
he came and got my computer  and copied and replaced it all within about 2
or 3 hours.
 
 Part of the business is a backup service that copies changes to files in
the night and stores it off site. However, that would not recover the whole
C drive if it was needed.
 Thus, I would like to have something that could put this back where it was
pretty quickly if a problem arose.
 I understand it would need to be redone pretty regularely in order to be
of much use.
 
 Part of the problem is that over time we tinker with programs etc and then
if we do a clean install, things don't look or work like they did before.
 I am pretty happy with the machine right now and would like to be able to
preserve that look and feel.
 
 RB
 
 On 04/02/2015 5:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Of all the times I've tried, I never got Windows to roll back using the
native recovery utility.
 
 I'm not bashing, just relating my experience.
 
 I am a great believer in clean installs.  Keep a clean image and good,
regular backups, and when something like this occurs you just nuke and start
fresh.  It makes life so much easier.
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 On Feb 4, 2015, at 6:23 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 A bit late since you have fixed it, but is there not a means of telling
Windows to go back to an earlier date in order to avoid issues like this
that crop up?
 
 RB
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

2015-02-06 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Seems like they might want to re-think diesel trucks, buses, 
construction equipment etc.

Those engines tend to be bigger and dirtier than most cars.
I think a lot of the newer big diesel trucks are better than they used 
to be but there still seems to be a fair amount of black smoke coming 
out of trucks, buses, trains etc.


RB

On 06/02/2015 1:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

Here it is:
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/12/01/france-planning-to-eliminate-diesel-powered-cars/

I also read London plans to follow suit.

In the US, taxes are much higher on Diesel (reverse of Europe), which
explains much.


-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:38 PM
To: 'Andrew Strasfogel'; 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

Didn't France just start some effort to ban Diesels?


-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:44 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes..

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world-

embraces-

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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I have been prompted many times for updates so I probably have done this
already...

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 It is really no different if you buy a dell, etc.  The restore discs are
 specific to that hardware.


  What Curt said. There is no downgrade path.

 Point of reference for the Mac folks out there:

 I bought a Late 2008 MacBook from someone this week. They wanted to wipe
 it before they sent it to me, so they tossed an OS X 10.6.4 CD in it it (it
 was running OS X 10.6.6), booted from the CD and ran the installer.

 Every time they tried this, the installer would fail, saying that Cannot
 install OS X on this system.  I had them erase and partition the drive,
 etc., all to no avail.

 So Wednesday night, after a good hour of email exchanges with the guy,
 who wanted to pull the plug and call off the sale, I asked him if the CD he
 was using was the original restore disk for the MacBook.

 No, it's from the iMac I'm emailing you from.

 head slap

 Restore disks for Apple products are hardware specific, that is, you
 typically can't use a restore disk from a laptop to restore a desktop and
 vice-versa.  The image is unique and has drivers for the type of hardware
 only.

 The only media you can use cross hardware are retail installers.

 I told him to pack up the machine and send it and I would install a new
 OS.

 Oy.

 Dan


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Re: [MBZ] OT Getting NSA on the case

2015-02-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Having lived in Mid East for quite some time.. I happen to have a good
command of Arabic curses I suggest you may find Neek Hallack useful..
it involves a physically impossible sex act with yourself.. if you get the
meaning...

The standard progression of a word fight is to always insult your women
first.. then you.. then knives and blood.. Lovely culture.. once you get
used to the open sewers, disease and violence.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So every coupla days I am working and along about 4-430 I get a call from
 Technical Services or 'Technical Department or computer services or
 some such and the Indian/Paki tells me my Windows computer has a virus and
 I need to type in some IP address to get it working.  Of course this is
 complete BS but no matter how nasty I am to them they keep calling.  So the
 last coupla times I start in yelling wasalaam aleikum Muhammed! and
 asking where the bomb is, if it is in Washington DC and throw a few Obamas
 and allahuwa akbars in there for good measure.  Usually the guy is so
 surprised he doesn't say much so I repeat it a few times more.  The other
 day one started saying something in some language I could not understand,
 and after he tells me in English what insults he was saying about my wife.
 I threw in a few more bomb, Obama, Washington DC, allahuwa akbars, etc.  He
 finally cussed me in English and rang off.

 So I'm thinking this ought to get NSA's attention monitoring inbound phone
 calls from that part of the world.  I'm giving them plenty to work on.

 I'm hoping a coupla black Suburbans show up soon, and together we can find
 out who these guys are!  Get some use out of them!

 --R (whose Windows computers  got enough viruses to die)



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Re: [MBZ] OT Getting NSA on the case

2015-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I had a couple at work this week with the bill collector scam where they say 
there's legal action being taken against you and give you the case number so 
you can call them and settle up.

I called one back today and told them I was from the County's Security 
Department and I wanted the caller's name, their supervisor, information about 
their business, etc., so I could forward the information to the legal 
department for possible prosecution.

The guy very hurriedly said, I have removed your number from our list! and 
hung up.

Hee.

Dan


 On Feb 6, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't get those ones, I get the This is a very important call about your 
 credit card bill which it of course isn't...
 At one point last year I had them all stopped for awhile I was so nice to the 
 people calling, I'd ask for their callback number in case we got 
 disconnected, then when they told me they didn't do that I commiserate with 
 how people are mean to them. One lady I kept on the phone for maybe half an 
 hour. If you waste enough of their time in the right way apparently they 
 don't call back for awhile.
 Actually the best thing I've done is to get rid of the answering machine. We 
 get way fewer of the calls now that half the time nobody picks up.
 -Curt
  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 4:45 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT Getting NSA on the case
 
 So every coupla days I am working and along about 4-430 I get a call 
 from Technical Services or 'Technical Department or computer 
 services or some such and the Indian/Paki tells me my Windows computer 
 has a virus and I need to type in some IP address to get it working.  Of 
 course this is complete BS but no matter how nasty I am to them they 
 keep calling.  So the last coupla times I start in yelling wasalaam 
 aleikum Muhammed! and asking where the bomb is, if it is in Washington 
 DC and throw a few Obamas and allahuwa akbars in there for good 
 measure.  Usually the guy is so surprised he doesn't say much so I 
 repeat it a few times more.  The other day one started saying something 
 in some language I could not understand, and after he tells me in 
 English what insults he was saying about my wife.  I threw in a few more 
 bomb, Obama, Washington DC, allahuwa akbars, etc.  He finally cussed me 
 in English and rang off.
 
 So I'm thinking this ought to get NSA's attention monitoring inbound 
 phone calls from that part of the world.  I'm giving them plenty to 
 work on.
 
 I'm hoping a coupla black Suburbans show up soon, and together we can 
 find out who these guys are!  Get some use out of them!
 
 --R (whose Windows computers  got enough viruses to die)
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Guided install which was like a disk image but slower...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 5:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED
   
Not for HP.  They shipped a disk with the basic Windoze OS on it and a second 
one with the froo-froo garbage they wanted you to load.  They might have done 
it at one time, or now, but 4-6 years ago they were pretty generic.

I know because I'm a former HP certified tech, and I've got stacks of the 
things

Dan


 On Feb 6, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 It is really no different if you buy a dell, etc.  The restore discs are 
 specific to that hardware.
 
 
 What Curt said. There is no downgrade path.
 
 Point of reference for the Mac folks out there:
 
 I bought a Late 2008 MacBook from someone this week. They wanted to wipe it 
 before they sent it to me, so they tossed an OS X 10.6.4 CD in it it (it was 
 running OS X 10.6.6), booted from the CD and ran the installer.
 
 Every time they tried this, the installer would fail, saying that Cannot 
 install OS X on this system.  I had them erase and partition the drive, 
 etc., all to no avail.
 
 So Wednesday night, after a good hour of email exchanges with the guy, who 
 wanted to pull the plug and call off the sale, I asked him if the CD he was 
 using was the original restore disk for the MacBook.
 
 No, it's from the iMac I'm emailing you from.
 
 head slap
 
 Restore disks for Apple products are hardware specific, that is, you 
 typically can't use a restore disk from a laptop to restore a desktop and 
 vice-versa.  The image is unique and has drivers for the type of hardware 
 only.
 
 The only media you can use cross hardware are retail installers.
 
 I told him to pack up the machine and send it and I would install a new OS.
 
 Oy.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Getting NSA on the case

2015-02-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

NSA will, inshallah!

--R


On 2/6/15 5:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

The better way, however, would be to put these people out of
business and in jail where they belong.

Can you help me do that?

Thanks,


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] OT Getting NSA on the case

2015-02-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
So every coupla days I am working and along about 4-430 I get a call 
from Technical Services or 'Technical Department or computer 
services or some such and the Indian/Paki tells me my Windows 
computer has a virus and I need to type in some IP address to get it 
working.  Of course this is complete BS but no matter how nasty I am 
to them they keep calling.  So the last coupla times I start in 
yelling wasalaam aleikum Muhammed! and asking where the bomb is, 
if it is in Washington DC and throw a few Obamas and allahuwa 
akbars in there for good measure.  Usually the guy is so surprised 
he doesn't say much so I repeat it a few times more.  The other day 
one started saying something in some language I could not 
understand, and after he tells me in English what insults he was 
saying about my wife.  I threw in a few more bomb, Obama, Washington 
DC, allahuwa akbars, etc.  He finally cussed me in English and rang 
off.


So I'm thinking this ought to get NSA's attention monitoring inbound 
phone calls from that part of the world.  I'm giving them plenty 
to work on.


I'm hoping a coupla black Suburbans show up soon, and together we 
can find out who these guys are!  Get some use out of them!


--R (whose Windows computers  got enough viruses to die)


More likely they would label you and toss you in the clink.  You 
represent a target that is much lower risk to themselves, than any 
real tea roar rist.


Same as the po lice only want to hand out speeding tickets to 
productive citizens.  Much lower risk to them than chasing bad guys.


Net result is the buy guys walk free.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Getting NSA on the case

2015-02-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
In my state, anyone making collections has to have a special license to do
so, so the first question that gets ask is What is your license number for
your company registered with the state?

That cuts right to the bone quickly.. most are not... but most people don't
even know the requirement for license.


On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I had a couple at work this week with the bill collector scam where they
 say there's legal action being taken against you and give you the case
 number so you can call them and settle up.

 I called one back today and told them I was from the County's Security
 Department and I wanted the caller's name, their supervisor, information
 about their business, etc., so I could forward the information to the legal
 department for possible prosecution.

 The guy very hurriedly said, I have removed your number from our list!
 and hung up.

 Hee.

 Dan


  On Feb 6, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I don't get those ones, I get the This is a very important call about
 your credit card bill which it of course isn't...
  At one point last year I had them all stopped for awhile I was so nice
 to the people calling, I'd ask for their callback number in case we got
 disconnected, then when they told me they didn't do that I commiserate with
 how people are mean to them. One lady I kept on the phone for maybe half an
 hour. If you waste enough of their time in the right way apparently they
 don't call back for awhile.
  Actually the best thing I've done is to get rid of the answering
 machine. We get way fewer of the calls now that half the time nobody picks
 up.
  -Curt
   From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 4:45 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] OT Getting NSA on the case
 
  So every coupla days I am working and along about 4-430 I get a call
  from Technical Services or 'Technical Department or computer
  services or some such and the Indian/Paki tells me my Windows computer
  has a virus and I need to type in some IP address to get it working.  Of
  course this is complete BS but no matter how nasty I am to them they
  keep calling.  So the last coupla times I start in yelling wasalaam
  aleikum Muhammed! and asking where the bomb is, if it is in Washington
  DC and throw a few Obamas and allahuwa akbars in there for good
  measure.  Usually the guy is so surprised he doesn't say much so I
  repeat it a few times more.  The other day one started saying something
  in some language I could not understand, and after he tells me in
  English what insults he was saying about my wife.  I threw in a few more
  bomb, Obama, Washington DC, allahuwa akbars, etc.  He finally cussed me
  in English and rang off.
 
  So I'm thinking this ought to get NSA's attention monitoring inbound
  phone calls from that part of the world.  I'm giving them plenty to
  work on.
 
  I'm hoping a coupla black Suburbans show up soon, and together we can
  find out who these guys are!  Get some use out of them!
 
  --R (whose Windows computers  got enough viruses to die)
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Getting NSA on the case

2015-02-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:45:13 -0500 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So every coupla days I am working and along about 4-430 I get a call 
 from Technical Services or 'Technical Department or computer 
 services or some such and the Indian/Paki tells me my Windows computer 
 has a virus and I need to type in some IP address to get it working.

I have occupied them a few times by playing dumb. Because I sing tenor,
they think I am a woman. Last time their next-level-up person asked me
what operating system I was using. I know I use Linux, but I asked him,
How do I find that? He started having me do something, but since I had
been sitting there awhile, I told him I needed to go to the bathroom
(which was true!). He said he would wait. I came quietly back and pressed
the mute button on my phone and went back to the computer work I had been
doing. After awhile of waiting, he gave up.

**BUT**, they had previously had me go to a special website of theirs to
log in (which NoScript prevents me doing) and then, when that failed,
download indirectly through their website from legitimate companies which
make desktop sharing software. I dutifully download the executable files,
but for some strange reason, I always get the message, Cannot execute
binary file. :-)

After the conversation was over, I looked up their website with whois and
then contacted their website or DNS provider. The first time their DNS
was provided by GoDaddy. I fired off an email to their abuse address.

The second time their website was hosted by jimdo.com a website operator
in Germany which provided ewss.jimdo.com. At their page
http://support.jimdo.com/contact/inappropriate-content/ , I sent them this
following message:

Message: I have been repeatedly contacted by people who say they
are from the Computer Technical Support Department who say my
computer has told them it has problems. They want me to run
applications on my computer to give them access to it.

They have me go to the website at ewss.jimdo.com and tried
various things to get a desktop-sharing program to run. (That
page lists the following contact information: 

PHONE: (815) 123 4567
ADDRESS: 123 A Street, Miami, FL 38297 )

They have three levels of personnel with Chinese accents and I am
passed up the chain when the previous level cannot get the
desktop-sharing program to run (which it won't because I run
Linux). I succeeded in wasting an hour of their time (and,
unfortunately, an hour of my time as well), keeping them from
harming someone who isn't as knowledgable about computers.

The better way, however, would be to put these people out of
business and in jail where they belong.

Can you help me do that?

Thanks,


Craig


I got the reply,

Hello Craig,

The website that you reported has been blocked. Thank you
for reporting it. 


I have also reported them to the Internet Crime Center at
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx



 So I'm thinking this ought to get NSA's attention monitoring inbound 
 phone calls from that part of the world.  I'm giving them plenty to 
 work on.
 
 I'm hoping a coupla black Suburbans show up soon, and together we can 
 find out who these guys are!  Get some use out of them!

Yes, indeed.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Getting NSA on the case

2015-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I don't get those ones, I get the This is a very important call about your 
credit card bill which it of course isn't...
At one point last year I had them all stopped for awhile I was so nice to the 
people calling, I'd ask for their callback number in case we got disconnected, 
then when they told me they didn't do that I commiserate with how people are 
mean to them. One lady I kept on the phone for maybe half an hour. If you waste 
enough of their time in the right way apparently they don't call back for 
awhile.
Actually the best thing I've done is to get rid of the answering machine. We 
get way fewer of the calls now that half the time nobody picks up.
-Curt
  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 4:45 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT Getting NSA on the case
   
So every coupla days I am working and along about 4-430 I get a call 
from Technical Services or 'Technical Department or computer 
services or some such and the Indian/Paki tells me my Windows computer 
has a virus and I need to type in some IP address to get it working.  Of 
course this is complete BS but no matter how nasty I am to them they 
keep calling.  So the last coupla times I start in yelling wasalaam 
aleikum Muhammed! and asking where the bomb is, if it is in Washington 
DC and throw a few Obamas and allahuwa akbars in there for good 
measure.  Usually the guy is so surprised he doesn't say much so I 
repeat it a few times more.  The other day one started saying something 
in some language I could not understand, and after he tells me in 
English what insults he was saying about my wife.  I threw in a few more 
bomb, Obama, Washington DC, allahuwa akbars, etc.  He finally cussed me 
in English and rang off.

So I'm thinking this ought to get NSA's attention monitoring inbound 
phone calls from that part of the world.  I'm giving them plenty to 
work on.

I'm hoping a coupla black Suburbans show up soon, and together we can 
find out who these guys are!  Get some use out of them!

--R (whose Windows computers  got enough viruses to die)



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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-06 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

True story. Junior Johnson was a moonshine runner and early champion stock car 
racer.
He was sitting in a bar talking to one of the revenuers who had tried to catch 
him without success. The revenuer suggested that he go to one of race tracks in 
NC and sign up as a driver.
He did, and was so successful, he gave up running moonshine. Not sure if he was 
a Baptist:

Johnson was born in Wilkes County, North Carolina, the fourth of seven 
children of Lora Belle Money and Robert Glenn Johnson, Sr. His father, a 
lifelong bootlegger, spent nearly twenty of his sixty-three years in prison, as 
their house was frequently raided by revenue agents. Junior spent one year in 
prison in Ohio for having an illegal still, although he was never caught in his 
many years of transporting bootleg liquor at high speed.[1]

In 1955, Johnson began his career as a NASCAR driver. In his first full season, 
he won five races and finished sixth in the 1955 NASCAR Grand National points 
standings.snip

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Johnson#Presidential_pardon

Gerry


Rich Thomas wrote:
 All them ol boys were the ones who had already started drankin and 
 runnin shine
 --R
 
 On 2/5/15 12:02 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
 
  No, I think Baptists love stock car racing.
  The south is full of Baptists and that is where stock car racing came 
  from.
 
  RB
 
  On 05/02/2015 8:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
  Stock car racing could lead to dancing, perhaps even drinking and 
  s-x, so it is verboten.
 
  --R
 
 
  On 2/4/15 9:46 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
  Had no idea there was a stock car race track.  I guess baptists 
  don't do stock cars?
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Not for HP.  They shipped a disk with the basic Windoze OS on it and a second 
one with the froo-froo garbage they wanted you to load.  They might have done 
it at one time, or now, but 4-6 years ago they were pretty generic.

I know because I'm a former HP certified tech, and I've got stacks of the 
things

Dan


 On Feb 6, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 It is really no different if you buy a dell, etc.  The restore discs are 
 specific to that hardware.
 
 
 What Curt said. There is no downgrade path.
 
 Point of reference for the Mac folks out there:
 
 I bought a Late 2008 MacBook from someone this week. They wanted to wipe it 
 before they sent it to me, so they tossed an OS X 10.6.4 CD in it it (it was 
 running OS X 10.6.6), booted from the CD and ran the installer.
 
 Every time they tried this, the installer would fail, saying that Cannot 
 install OS X on this system.  I had them erase and partition the drive, 
 etc., all to no avail.
 
 So Wednesday night, after a good hour of email exchanges with the guy, who 
 wanted to pull the plug and call off the sale, I asked him if the CD he was 
 using was the original restore disk for the MacBook.
 
 No, it's from the iMac I'm emailing you from.
 
 head slap
 
 Restore disks for Apple products are hardware specific, that is, you 
 typically can't use a restore disk from a laptop to restore a desktop and 
 vice-versa.  The image is unique and has drivers for the type of hardware 
 only.
 
 The only media you can use cross hardware are retail installers.
 
 I told him to pack up the machine and send it and I would install a new OS.
 
 Oy.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

2015-02-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Jewish for sure!

--R


On 2/6/15 5:45 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

He did, and was so successful, he gave up running moonshine. Not sure if he was 
a Baptist:


Johnson was born in Wilkes County, North Carolina,




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Re: [MBZ] Greenest and Meanest for 2015 Model year from Greencars.org

2015-02-06 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote:
 Agree - they are quite impractical, but I am tempted to get one as a single
 occupant commuter car.

I have always wanted Smart.
I guess I gotta wait another decade and then they might be affordable.
Scratch that - I wanna make sure I am dirt long before then.  I like
you guys too much to hang around another decade.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Cloning Windows Drives [was: Re: Korean malware FIXED]

2015-02-06 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Dan Penoff wrote:
   There have got to be some list members out there with PCs that are
   cloning drives.
  I cloned drives for Windows machines at the Lab by using my Linux
  Personal Computer and the dd command, once from the source disk to free
  space on a disk in the Linux PC, and then from the image on the PC's
  disk to the target disk. It worked great; no muss, no fuss.

I used the xcopy command: xcopy c:\*.*d:\ /c/h/e/k/r (on run) to clone disks on 
the old (86?) based MS OS's. Haven't tried it on the later versions. 
Gerry

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[MBZ] On way back

2015-02-06 Thread wiltonw--- via Mercedes
Making some progress on way back with neu computenmachine.
'Like the progress;'Don't like das computenmachine.

Wilton

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[MBZ] Very OT: One that got away

2015-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Watch how the tables are turned in this ice fishing clip.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2942312/The-one-got-away-Ice-fisherman-left-humiliated-outsmarted-catch-wriggles-water-taking-rod-attached-it.html
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[MBZ] W123 multi-purpose stalk

2015-02-06 Thread G. M. Brown via Mercedes
Has anyone on the list tried/succeeded to rebuild their W123 multi-purpose 
stalk (turn signal, headlight flasher, windshield wiper/washer, and cruise 
control stalk)?
I've obtained a replacement and will hopefully install it tomorrow . . . cross 
your fingers that the replacement works.  TIA.

G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC
  
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Re: [MBZ] LNG Was: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

2015-02-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
TBP has all kinds of schemes that generally involve getting money, 
somehow, from the gummint to support them and make him money.  He had 
some big thing with wind machines a coupla years ago if I recall.


I have met his boy, Tom I think, a coupla times, who appears to have 
fallen far from the tree, and hit every branch on the way down.

--R


On 2/6/15 4:12 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Andy sez: T Boone Pickens wants USA to invest $$billions converting 
heavy duty trucks

and diesel trucks to LNG.  Would help emissions and wipe out the trade
deficit.


If T Boone wants it done, he can use his own money to convince some 
big fleets to convert.  I don't care to have money taken at gunpoint 
(taxes) to set up a system for T Boone, or anyone else to make more 
money.



T Boone (not so Slim) Pickins

I like the real Slim Pickens

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[MBZ] OT Getting NSA on the case

2015-02-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
So every coupla days I am working and along about 4-430 I get a call 
from Technical Services or 'Technical Department or computer 
services or some such and the Indian/Paki tells me my Windows computer 
has a virus and I need to type in some IP address to get it working.  Of 
course this is complete BS but no matter how nasty I am to them they 
keep calling.  So the last coupla times I start in yelling wasalaam 
aleikum Muhammed! and asking where the bomb is, if it is in Washington 
DC and throw a few Obamas and allahuwa akbars in there for good 
measure.  Usually the guy is so surprised he doesn't say much so I 
repeat it a few times more.  The other day one started saying something 
in some language I could not understand, and after he tells me in 
English what insults he was saying about my wife.  I threw in a few more 
bomb, Obama, Washington DC, allahuwa akbars, etc.  He finally cussed me 
in English and rang off.


So I'm thinking this ought to get NSA's attention monitoring inbound 
phone calls from that part of the world.  I'm giving them plenty to 
work on.


I'm hoping a coupla black Suburbans show up soon, and together we can 
find out who these guys are!  Get some use out of them!


--R (whose Windows computers  got enough viruses to die)



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Re: [MBZ] LNG Was: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

2015-02-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:26:56 -0500 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 TBP has all kinds of schemes that generally involve getting money, 
 somehow, from the gummint to support them and make him money.  He had 
 some big thing with wind machines a coupla years ago if I recall.
 
 I have met his boy, Tom I think, a coupla times, who appears to have 
 fallen far from the tree, and hit every branch on the way down.

Fallen far or fallen not far?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] LNG Was: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

2015-02-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
TBP has all kinds of schemes that generally involve getting money, 
somehow, from the gummint to support them and make him money.  He 
had some big thing with wind machines a coupla years ago if I recall.


I have met his boy, Tom I think, a coupla times, who appears to have 
fallen far from the tree, and hit every branch on the way down.

--R


Funny how the rich guys seem to be able to get the gummit goobers to 
rob the populace for them. (at gunpoint)


Big topic here and now is if texas oil bazillionaires can use eminent 
domain to run a pipleline for their enrichment.  Same for some other 
rich folk to run a DC powerline to the East, with no usage in state. 
It has been likened to allowing eminent domain to be used to build a 
private toll road parallel to I-80 with no on ramps or off ramps  in 
the state.  Put that way, it seems obviously wrong.  As a pipeline or 
powerline, it does not seem so wrong, unless it is your land they 
want to tear up.


They have found some loophole that will allow them to become a 
public utility with no customers, but then they can use eminent 
domain for personal enrichment.



From personal experience, 2 overland highlines and one LP pipeline 
ran over our land when I was young.  In each case, the company lied 
about what they would do and what they would not do.  The contractors 
ran through muddy fields and made a huge mess each time.  The 
companies did not pay restitution like they promised. 
Contractors/transmission companies  will run through the fields and 
damage crops as long as the highline or pipeline exists without 
compensation.



In theory, we need to move crude from ND to refineries.   That is in 
the national interest.  However, the landowners should get a piece of 
the action, not be screwed on installation, and screwed evermore.


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[MBZ] OT Airplane pR0n

2015-02-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-story-of-the-ultrasecret-a-12-oxcart-father-of-the-1684070908

--R



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Re: [MBZ] Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Clonezilla works well but is not super intuitive. Make a bootable USB with 
unetbootin, then you've got a choice, if you've got another drive of the same 
size you can clone your disk to that drive. Otherwise you can make a disk image 
which will be much smaller.Last I played with it a Win7 disk image (just the 
OS, not backing up files) was around 9GB. A 64GB USB drive should cover you 
well for the OS and some media (documents, images and whatnot).
The interface is utilitarian and since I don't do it often it always takes me a 
few fits and starts to get going. I've got a script for the computers at work 
that saves everything off to a network location. Taking a disk image to a 
Windows share is fairly slow but effective, its considerably faster to a USB 
drive.
-Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 9:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Korean malware FIXED
   
Randy,

There are any number of programs out there for free that will allow you to 
clone a hard drive. CloneZilla is good as are others. Most of these have walk 
throughs that show how it's done.

I haven't cloned a personal (PC) drive in some time, so I can't offer specifics 
as far as software recommendations. I clone Mac drives regularly using Carbon 
Copy, a Mac program for cloning that's been around for years. I also use Disk 
Utility to make compressed image files for archive and backup purposes as well. 
 Disk Utility is a native program that's been a part of the Mac OS for years, 
and it's probably one of the best things they ever put together in that regard.

The PC work I've done has been enterprise level stuff, so the tools I used 
aren't typically available to the general public, or they're rather expensive 
for the average person.

There have got to be some list members out there with PCs that are cloning 
drives.

??

Dan

Sent from my iPad



 On Feb 5, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 So, can you tell me in simple terms how to do this?
 
 I have a portable hard drive and would like to do essentially a clone of the 
 hard drive on my computer.
 I understand there is a way to do it by booting from a flash drive so that 
 the whole of C can be accessed to copy it.
 I assume I could use something like ghost or clonezilla to make the copy.
 The question is - exactly what do I need on the flash drive to make it 
 bootable and let me make the copy?
 It is Windows 7 Home Premium.
 
 My IT guy says it is simple and he will do it for me but he is busy and 
 despite a number of reminders, has yet to do so.
 He is good however, in the sense that when I had a hard drive going bad, he 
 came and got my computer  and copied and replaced it all within about 2 or 3 
 hours.
 
 Part of the business is a backup service that copies changes to files in the 
 night and stores it off site. However, that would not recover the whole C 
 drive if it was needed.
 Thus, I would like to have something that could put this back where it was 
 pretty quickly if a problem arose.
 I understand it would need to be redone pretty regularely in order to be of 
 much use.
 
 Part of the problem is that over time we tinker with programs etc and then if 
 we do a clean install, things don't look or work like they did before.
 I am pretty happy with the machine right now and would like to be able to 
 preserve that look and feel.
 
 RB
 
 On 04/02/2015 5:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Of all the times I've tried, I never got Windows to roll back using the 
 native recovery utility.
 
 I'm not bashing, just relating my experience.
 
 I am a great believer in clean installs.  Keep a clean image and good, 
 regular backups, and when something like this occurs you just nuke and start 
 fresh.  It makes life so much easier.
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 On Feb 4, 2015, at 6:23 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 A bit late since you have fixed it, but is there not a means of telling 
 Windows to go back to an earlier date in order to avoid issues like this 
 that crop up?
 
 RB
 
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Re: [MBZ] Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Randy,

There are any number of programs out there for free that will allow you to 
clone a hard drive. CloneZilla is good as are others. Most of these have walk 
throughs that show how it's done.

I haven't cloned a personal (PC) drive in some time, so I can't offer specifics 
as far as software recommendations. I clone Mac drives regularly using Carbon 
Copy, a Mac program for cloning that's been around for years. I also use Disk 
Utility to make compressed image files for archive and backup purposes as well. 
 Disk Utility is a native program that's been a part of the Mac OS for years, 
and it's probably one of the best things they ever put together in that regard.

The PC work I've done has been enterprise level stuff, so the tools I used 
aren't typically available to the general public, or they're rather expensive 
for the average person.

There have got to be some list members out there with PCs that are cloning 
drives.

??

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 5, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 So, can you tell me in simple terms how to do this?
 
 I have a portable hard drive and would like to do essentially a clone of the 
 hard drive on my computer.
 I understand there is a way to do it by booting from a flash drive so that 
 the whole of C can be accessed to copy it.
 I assume I could use something like ghost or clonezilla to make the copy.
 The question is - exactly what do I need on the flash drive to make it 
 bootable and let me make the copy?
 It is Windows 7 Home Premium.
 
 My IT guy says it is simple and he will do it for me but he is busy and 
 despite a number of reminders, has yet to do so.
 He is good however, in the sense that when I had a hard drive going bad, he 
 came and got my computer  and copied and replaced it all within about 2 or 3 
 hours.
 
 Part of the business is a backup service that copies changes to files in the 
 night and stores it off site. However, that would not recover the whole C 
 drive if it was needed.
 Thus, I would like to have something that could put this back where it was 
 pretty quickly if a problem arose.
 I understand it would need to be redone pretty regularely in order to be of 
 much use.
 
 Part of the problem is that over time we tinker with programs etc and then if 
 we do a clean install, things don't look or work like they did before.
 I am pretty happy with the machine right now and would like to be able to 
 preserve that look and feel.
 
 RB
 
 On 04/02/2015 5:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Of all the times I've tried, I never got Windows to roll back using the 
 native recovery utility.
 
 I'm not bashing, just relating my experience.
 
 I am a great believer in clean installs.  Keep a clean image and good, 
 regular backups, and when something like this occurs you just nuke and start 
 fresh.  It makes life so much easier.
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 On Feb 4, 2015, at 6:23 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 A bit late since you have fixed it, but is there not a means of telling 
 Windows to go back to an earlier date in order to avoid issues like this 
 that crop up?
 
 RB
 
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[MBZ] Greenest and Meanest for 2015 Model year from Greencars.org

2015-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Mercedes tops the list for the Smart electric but has two on the meanest
list as well.
GreenestModel Year 2015 Make and model Specifications Emission standard
a MPG city MPG hwy Green Score Mercedez-Benz Smart Fortwo Elec. Drive
Convertible / Coupe 1, b Electric (Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.61 2.77
61 Chevrolet
Spark EV b Electric (Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.81 3.24 59 Fiat 500E b Electric
(Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.63 3.21 59 Toyota Prius C 1.5L 4, auto CVT SULEV
II / Bin 3 53 46 57 Nissan Leaf b Electric (Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.75
3.01 57 Toyota Prius Plug-in Hybrid 2, c Electric (Li-ion bat.) / 1.8L 4,
auto CVT PZEV / Bin 3 3.90 / 51 3.04 / 49 54 Lexus CT 200H 1.8L 4,
auto CVT SULEV
II / Bin 3 51 48 54 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.5L 4, auto CVT Bin 3 44 47 54 Honda
Civic Natural Gas 1.8L 4, auto [CNG] PZEV / Bin 2 27 38 54 Mitsubishi
Mirage 1.2L
3, auto CVT Bin 5 / LEV II 37 44 54 Ford Focus Electric b Electric (Li-ion
bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.27 2.94 53 Volkswagen Jetta Hybrid 1.4L 4, auto [P] PZEV
/ Bin 3 42 48 53


[CNG] denotes compressed natural gas
[P] Denotes Premium Gasoline.
Auto CVT denotes continuously variable automatic transmission.
a A listing with two emission standards (e.g., Tier 2 Bin 2/ PZEV) denotes
a single vehicle carrying both a federal and a California emission
certification. Green Scores for such listings reflect the cleaner of the
two certifications.
b Fuel economy for electric vehicles is provided in miles per kilowatt-hour.
c Fuel economy for plug-in hybrids is provided in miles per gallon for
gasoline operation and in miles per kilowatt-hour for electric operation
1. The gasoline-powered version of this vehicle scores a 53
2. The non-plug in Prius also earns a Green Score of 54
- See more at:
http://greenercars.org/greenest-meanest/greenest#sthash.hc0PhKlF.dpuf

Meanest
Model Year 2015 Make and model Specifications Emission standard a MPG
city MPG hwy Green Score Ram 2500 (CLASS 2B) 1, 2 5.7L 8, auto 4wd LEV II 12
17 17 Chevrolet G2500 Express / GMC Savana (CARGO CONVERSION) (MDPV)
3, 4, 5 6.0L
8, auto Bin 8 / ULEV II 10 15 18 Bugatti Veyron 8.0L 16, auto Awd [P] Bin 5
/ LEV II 8 15 19 Bentley Mulsanne 6.8L 8, auto stk [P] Bin 5 / LEV II 11 18
21 Mercedes-Benz G 63 AMG 5.5L 8, auto 4wd [P] ULEV II / Bin 5 12 14
21 Mercedes-Benz
G 550 5.5L 8, auto 4wd [P] ULEV II / Bin 5 12 15 22 Rolls-Royce Phantom
Drophead Coupe 6 6.7L 12, auto stk [P] Bin 5 / LEV II 11 19 23 Lamborghini
Aventador Roadster 6.5L 12, auto Awd [P] Bin 5 / LEV II 10 16 23 Toyota
Sequoia FFV 7 5.7L 8, auto stk 4wd Bin 5 13 17 23 Lexus LX 570 5.7L 8, auto
stk 4wd [P] ULEV II / Bin 5 12 17 23 Ferrari FF 6.3L 12, auto 4wd [P] Bin 5
/ LEV II 11 16 23 Nissan Armada 5.6L 8, auto 4wd Bin 5 / LEV II 12 18 23


auto stk denotes manually adjustable automatic transmission
a. A listing with two emission standards (e.g., Tier 2 Bin 2/ PZEV) denotes
a single vehicle carrying both a federal and a California emission
certification. Green Scores for such listings reflect the cleaner of the
two certifications.
1. The 2wd version of this vehicle earns a Green Score of 18
2. The ULEV version of this vehicle earns a Green Score of 21
3. The Tier 2-only versions of these vehicles (bin 8 ) also earn a Green
Score of 18
4. The passenger versions of these vehicles earn a Green Score of 19
5. The 3500 version of these vehicles earn a Green Score of 19
6. The Rolls-Royce Phantom EWB also earns a Green Score of 23
7. The non-FFV version of this vehicle also earns a Green Score of 23
- See more at:
http://greenercars.org/greenest-meanest/meanest#sthash.vKgvzAUe.dpuf
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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Looks like they stopped supporting this printer beginning with Mavericks (OS X 
10.9).

You can buy a copy of VueScan to support the scanning side of it, but I think 
you're out of luck on the printing side from the looks of things.

Look at Apple's support thread on this at: 
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5495385

There may be a workaround in there.

Dan

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 On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I connected it up but no go as there is no driver supported by the Mac.
 
 On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 You need to look in Preferences to see that it's installed first.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
  On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I obtained a Canon Pixma MP780 color all in one machine but I can't find it
  on my IMac menu.  Ideas?
 
  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  On Feb 4, 2015, Curly McLain wrote:
 
  From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Korean malware FIXED
  Date: February 4, 2015 2:39:07 PM PST
 
 
  I'm thinking of investing $70 in Eset, an antivirus program that was
  top rated in Consumers Reports in 2010. Either that or really
  biting the bullet and switching to a Linux program or Apple.
  Gerry
  --
  I think the Mac is worth the money.  I am tired of fighting with M$
  so even though XP was pretty decent.
 
  I have been struggling all afternoon to install a HP 2840 CLJ in Mac
  10.6.8, XP or ubuntu with no success.   on the mac, it starts up a HP
  setup assistant, which can't find the printer.  end of the show... no
  way to install it manually that I can find.  the printer add thing
  does not find the printer.
 
  XP problems, and ubunto is requiring a bunch of command line stuff I
  don't understand at all.  Jury is still out on ubuntu.  HPLIP 3.12.2
  has to be removed, and 3. 15.2 installed.  Who know what happens
  after that...
 
  just found out.  got to where I can launch a gui interface.  Now it
  can't find the printer.  Same as on the Mac.  Stupid HP.
  Overpriced, and crappy and make you buy a new printer because they
  won't update the drivers.
  ---
 
  Curly,
  I just installed an HP printer on my Mac (after the ink nozzle failed on
  my previous one).
  Have you tried going to System Preferences/ Hardware/Print  Scan? On my
  Mac, that window has a +/- thing on the left side of the window that 
  allows
  adding or removing a printer. When I did + it gave me a new screen to add
  in the new printer. Hope you have good luck. It can be frustratingŠ
  Regards,
  Addison
 
  Yes, that was the first thing i tried.  no printer showed up.  Finally
  unplugged the USB cable at the printer and plugged it in again, and the
  printer showed up. (Both mac and ubuntu machines.)  Now it only prints
  blank pages. 'Nother problem.
 
  It wasted the first half day cleaning itself and trashing cartridges.
  Before that, I had to take out the memory and plug it back in to get rid 
  of
  the 79 error after several unsuccessful restarts. Wasted most of the day
  and still have no working color printer.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 09:35:47 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 There have got to be some list members out there with PCs that are
 cloning drives.

I cloned drives for Windows machines at the Lab by using my Linux
Personal Computer and the dd command, once from the source disk to free
space on a disk in the Linux PC, and then from the image on the PC's disk
to the target disk. It worked great; no muss, no fuss.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The best workaround for me is to install Mavericks so I can at least
print from the MP780.  What is Mavericks and how to I install it?  How
would it affect my other applications?  My IMac is  running OS 10.9.5

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Looks like they stopped supporting this printer beginning with Mavericks
 (OS X 10.9).

 You can buy a copy of VueScan to support the scanning side of it, but I
 think you're out of luck on the printing side from the looks of things.

 Look at Apple's support thread on this at:
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5495385

 There may be a workaround in there.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I connected it up but no go as there is no driver supported by the Mac.
 
  On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  You need to look in Preferences to see that it's installed first.
 
  Dan
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
   On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   I obtained a Canon Pixma MP780 color all in one machine but I can't
 find it
   on my IMac menu.  Ideas?
  
   On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
   mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   On Feb 4, 2015, Curly McLain wrote:
  
   From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Korean malware FIXED
   Date: February 4, 2015 2:39:07 PM PST
  
  
   I'm thinking of investing $70 in Eset, an antivirus program that
 was
   top rated in Consumers Reports in 2010. Either that or really
   biting the bullet and switching to a Linux program or Apple.
   Gerry
   --
   I think the Mac is worth the money.  I am tired of fighting with M$
   so even though XP was pretty decent.
  
   I have been struggling all afternoon to install a HP 2840 CLJ in Mac
   10.6.8, XP or ubuntu with no success.   on the mac, it starts up a
 HP
   setup assistant, which can't find the printer.  end of the show...
 no
   way to install it manually that I can find.  the printer add thing
   does not find the printer.
  
   XP problems, and ubunto is requiring a bunch of command line stuff I
   don't understand at all.  Jury is still out on ubuntu.  HPLIP 3.12.2
   has to be removed, and 3. 15.2 installed.  Who know what happens
   after that...
  
   just found out.  got to where I can launch a gui interface.  Now it
   can't find the printer.  Same as on the Mac.  Stupid HP.
   Overpriced, and crappy and make you buy a new printer because they
   won't update the drivers.
   ---
  
   Curly,
   I just installed an HP printer on my Mac (after the ink nozzle
 failed on
   my previous one).
   Have you tried going to System Preferences/ Hardware/Print  Scan?
 On my
   Mac, that window has a +/- thing on the left side of the window
 that allows
   adding or removing a printer. When I did + it gave me a new screen
 to add
   in the new printer. Hope you have good luck. It can be frustratingŠ
   Regards,
   Addison
  
   Yes, that was the first thing i tried.  no printer showed up.
 Finally
   unplugged the USB cable at the printer and plugged it in again, and
 the
   printer showed up. (Both mac and ubuntu machines.)  Now it only
 prints
   blank pages. 'Nother problem.
  
   It wasted the first half day cleaning itself and trashing cartridges.
   Before that, I had to take out the memory and plug it back in to get
 rid of
   the 79 error after several unsuccessful restarts. Wasted most of the
 day
   and still have no working color printer.
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] Cloning Windows Drives [was: Re: Korean malware FIXED]

2015-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
As I think Clonezilla is just a head-end for dd my experience is that the image 
just plops onto whatever size partition you have leaving the free space in that 
partition usable. There might be a parameter in Clonezilla for that which might 
also allow you to make the free space another partition but I don't recall.
The space is not lost forever at any rate.
-Curt
  From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 11:30 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Cloning Windows Drives [was: Re: Korean malware FIXED]
   
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:06:11 -0700 Craig via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 09:35:47 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  There have got to be some list members out there with PCs that are
  cloning drives.
 
 I cloned drives for Windows machines at the Lab by using my Linux
 Personal Computer and the dd command, once from the source disk to free
 space on a disk in the Linux PC, and then from the image on the PC's
 disk to the target disk. It worked great; no muss, no fuss.


When one copies the image of a smaller disk onto a larger disk, is the
excess space on the larger disk lost and gone forever or can it be
recovered by resizing the image to fit the new disk or making a new
partition on the new disk?




Crai

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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Since I have an updated MacOS 109.5 how would I go back to 10.8?

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:07:37 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  The best workaround for me is to install Mavericks so I can at least
  print from the MP780.  What is Mavericks and how to I install it?  How
  would it affect my other applications?  My IMac is  running OS 10.9.5
 
  On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
   Looks like they stopped supporting this printer beginning with
   Mavericks (OS X 10.9).


 You didn't understand what Dan said.

 Dan said they STOPPED supporting your printer with Mavericks (which
 he defined as 10.9). You need MacOS 10.8.x.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] NOT CHEAP 300TD WAS RE: 300td pretty cheap

2015-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Someone should ask the seller to explain these anomalies.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:38 AM, MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Don't know about the euro part but it does have a turbo, you can see the
 intake bow. It does have SLS as you can see the pump on the front of the
 engine and you can also see the hoses going to and from the pump just
 behind the radiator on the left side. Also just a little bit of the SLS
 reservoir is visible at the extreme left of the picture. There is however
 no AC or electric fan on the front of the engine and a strange looking
 vacuum driven cruise control activator. Never seen one like it on an 83
 300TD. I have 3 of them and have looked a about 5 more. Also never seen one
 on an 83 300D.

 Manfred

 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 14:42:17 -0600
 From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com

 Probably EUro or RTW version.  Probably made without SLS, probably
 NON-turbo, as Euros were NA.  I think turbos were mostly NorteAmerika
 and Japan markets.



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Re: [MBZ] Law Enforcement I can embrace

2015-02-06 Thread Alice Strickland via Mercedes
'Was in Copenhagen couple weeks in Dec 78; missed the speed regulators, but it 
WAS cold and rainy Dec.

Wilton

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 -Original Message-
 Makes one wonder how this goes down with the local Islamic population.  
 

 From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes

 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 9:15 AM
 
 http://ffwww.youtube.com/embed/CPwW1HlAPys
 
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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Well, there's always Freecycle.  I can give it away.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 You'd reinstall everything. The problem will be fixing yourself up with a
 bootable copy of 10.x since you've likely got no install media. Apple makes
 this VERY difficult for you. They don't want you going to an older OS, they
 want you to upgrade like a good little droid.
 -Curt
   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Craig diese...@pisquared.net; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 11:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

 Since I have an updated MacOS 109.5 how would I go back to 10.8?

 On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 wrote:

  On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:07:37 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
   The best workaround for me is to install Mavericks so I can at least
   print from the MP780.  What is Mavericks and how to I install it?  How
   would it affect my other applications?  My IMac is  running OS 10.9.5
  
   On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
   mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
Looks like they stopped supporting this printer beginning with
Mavericks (OS X 10.9).
 
 
  You didn't understand what Dan said.
 
  Dan said they STOPPED supporting your printer with Mavericks (which
  he defined as 10.9). You need MacOS 10.8.x.
 
 
  Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Airplane pR0n

2015-02-06 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks, those aircraft have always fascinated me.
-- 
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Charleston, SC
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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I obtained a Canon Pixma MP780 color all in one machine but I can't find it
on my IMac menu.  Ideas?

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 On Feb 4, 2015, Curly McLain wrote:

 From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Korean malware FIXED
 Date: February 4, 2015 2:39:07 PM PST


  I'm thinking of investing $70 in Eset, an antivirus program that was
  top rated in Consumers Reports in 2010. Either that or really
  biting the bullet and switching to a Linux program or Apple.
  Gerry

 --
 I think the Mac is worth the money.  I am tired of fighting with M$
 so even though XP was pretty decent.

 I have been struggling all afternoon to install a HP 2840 CLJ in Mac
 10.6.8, XP or ubuntu with no success.   on the mac, it starts up a HP
 setup assistant, which can't find the printer.  end of the show... no
 way to install it manually that I can find.  the printer add thing
 does not find the printer.

 XP problems, and ubunto is requiring a bunch of command line stuff I
 don't understand at all.  Jury is still out on ubuntu.  HPLIP 3.12.2
 has to be removed, and 3. 15.2 installed.  Who know what happens
 after that...

 just found out.  got to where I can launch a gui interface.  Now it
 can't find the printer.  Same as on the Mac.  Stupid HP.
 Overpriced, and crappy and make you buy a new printer because they
 won't update the drivers.
 ---

 Curly,
 I just installed an HP printer on my Mac (after the ink nozzle failed on
 my previous one).
 Have you tried going to System Preferences/ Hardware/Print  Scan? On my
 Mac, that window has a +/- thing on the left side of the window that allows
 adding or removing a printer. When I did + it gave me a new screen to add
 in the new printer. Hope you have good luck. It can be frustratingŠ
 Regards,
 Addison


 Yes, that was the first thing i tried.  no printer showed up.  Finally
 unplugged the USB cable at the printer and plugged it in again, and the
 printer showed up. (Both mac and ubuntu machines.)  Now it only prints
 blank pages. 'Nother problem.

 It wasted the first half day cleaning itself and trashing cartridges.
 Before that, I had to take out the memory and plug it back in to get rid of
 the 79 error after several unsuccessful restarts. Wasted most of the day
 and still have no working color printer.


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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You need to look in Preferences to see that it's installed first.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I obtained a Canon Pixma MP780 color all in one machine but I can't find it
 on my IMac menu.  Ideas?
 
 On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 On Feb 4, 2015, Curly McLain wrote:
 
 From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Korean malware FIXED
 Date: February 4, 2015 2:39:07 PM PST
 
 
 I'm thinking of investing $70 in Eset, an antivirus program that was
 top rated in Consumers Reports in 2010. Either that or really
 biting the bullet and switching to a Linux program or Apple.
 Gerry
 --
 I think the Mac is worth the money.  I am tired of fighting with M$
 so even though XP was pretty decent.
 
 I have been struggling all afternoon to install a HP 2840 CLJ in Mac
 10.6.8, XP or ubuntu with no success.   on the mac, it starts up a HP
 setup assistant, which can't find the printer.  end of the show... no
 way to install it manually that I can find.  the printer add thing
 does not find the printer.
 
 XP problems, and ubunto is requiring a bunch of command line stuff I
 don't understand at all.  Jury is still out on ubuntu.  HPLIP 3.12.2
 has to be removed, and 3. 15.2 installed.  Who know what happens
 after that...
 
 just found out.  got to where I can launch a gui interface.  Now it
 can't find the printer.  Same as on the Mac.  Stupid HP.
 Overpriced, and crappy and make you buy a new printer because they
 won't update the drivers.
 ---
 
 Curly,
 I just installed an HP printer on my Mac (after the ink nozzle failed on
 my previous one).
 Have you tried going to System Preferences/ Hardware/Print  Scan? On my
 Mac, that window has a +/- thing on the left side of the window that allows
 adding or removing a printer. When I did + it gave me a new screen to add
 in the new printer. Hope you have good luck. It can be frustratingŠ
 Regards,
 Addison
 
 Yes, that was the first thing i tried.  no printer showed up.  Finally
 unplugged the USB cable at the printer and plugged it in again, and the
 printer showed up. (Both mac and ubuntu machines.)  Now it only prints
 blank pages. 'Nother problem.
 
 It wasted the first half day cleaning itself and trashing cartridges.
 Before that, I had to take out the memory and plug it back in to get rid of
 the 79 error after several unsuccessful restarts. Wasted most of the day
 and still have no working color printer.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I connected it up but no go as there is no driver supported by the Mac.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 You need to look in Preferences to see that it's installed first.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I obtained a Canon Pixma MP780 color all in one machine but I can't find
 it
  on my IMac menu.  Ideas?
 
  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  On Feb 4, 2015, Curly McLain wrote:
 
  From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Korean malware FIXED
  Date: February 4, 2015 2:39:07 PM PST
 
 
  I'm thinking of investing $70 in Eset, an antivirus program that was
  top rated in Consumers Reports in 2010. Either that or really
  biting the bullet and switching to a Linux program or Apple.
  Gerry
  --
  I think the Mac is worth the money.  I am tired of fighting with M$
  so even though XP was pretty decent.
 
  I have been struggling all afternoon to install a HP 2840 CLJ in Mac
  10.6.8, XP or ubuntu with no success.   on the mac, it starts up a HP
  setup assistant, which can't find the printer.  end of the show... no
  way to install it manually that I can find.  the printer add thing
  does not find the printer.
 
  XP problems, and ubunto is requiring a bunch of command line stuff I
  don't understand at all.  Jury is still out on ubuntu.  HPLIP 3.12.2
  has to be removed, and 3. 15.2 installed.  Who know what happens
  after that...
 
  just found out.  got to where I can launch a gui interface.  Now it
  can't find the printer.  Same as on the Mac.  Stupid HP.
  Overpriced, and crappy and make you buy a new printer because they
  won't update the drivers.
  ---
 
  Curly,
  I just installed an HP printer on my Mac (after the ink nozzle failed
 on
  my previous one).
  Have you tried going to System Preferences/ Hardware/Print  Scan? On
 my
  Mac, that window has a +/- thing on the left side of the window that
 allows
  adding or removing a printer. When I did + it gave me a new screen to
 add
  in the new printer. Hope you have good luck. It can be frustratingŠ
  Regards,
  Addison
 
  Yes, that was the first thing i tried.  no printer showed up.  Finally
  unplugged the USB cable at the printer and plugged it in again, and the
  printer showed up. (Both mac and ubuntu machines.)  Now it only prints
  blank pages. 'Nother problem.
 
  It wasted the first half day cleaning itself and trashing cartridges.
  Before that, I had to take out the memory and plug it back in to get
 rid of
  the 79 error after several unsuccessful restarts. Wasted most of the day
  and still have no working color printer.
 
 
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[MBZ] OT- Wildlife/Game Camera Offer

2015-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
During our recent discussion regarding the issues my HOA has been encountering 
with vandalism in our park, someone contacted me privately and offered an old 
wildlife camera.  I know I responded with an offer to cover postage, but I 
don't recall hearing back.

If it's someone on the list, would you drop me a PM? I would really like to try 
this out...

Thank you,

Dan

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[MBZ] OT: NY Times article about diesel cars in the USA

2015-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
At first glance didn't see any reference to Mercedes..

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/automobiles/as-the-world-embraces-diesels-americans-still-play-hard-to-get.html?ref=energy-environment_r=0
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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
According to what you're telling us, you're running Mavericks right now if 
you're on OS X 10.9.5.

There is a combo update you might want to install if you haven't already.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 6, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The best workaround for me is to install Mavericks so I can at least print 
 from the MP780.  What is Mavericks and how to I install it?  How would it 
 affect my other applications?  My IMac is  running OS 10.9.5
 
 On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Looks like they stopped supporting this printer beginning with Mavericks (OS 
 X 10.9).
 
 You can buy a copy of VueScan to support the scanning side of it, but I 
 think you're out of luck on the printing side from the looks of things.
 
 Look at Apple's support thread on this at: 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5495385
 
 There may be a workaround in there.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
  On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 
  I connected it up but no go as there is no driver supported by the Mac.
 
  On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  You need to look in Preferences to see that it's installed first.
 
  Dan
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
   On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
   mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   I obtained a Canon Pixma MP780 color all in one machine but I can't 
   find it
   on my IMac menu.  Ideas?
  
   On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
   mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   On Feb 4, 2015, Curly McLain wrote:
  
   From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Korean malware FIXED
   Date: February 4, 2015 2:39:07 PM PST
  
  
   I'm thinking of investing $70 in Eset, an antivirus program that was
   top rated in Consumers Reports in 2010. Either that or really
   biting the bullet and switching to a Linux program or Apple.
   Gerry
   --
   I think the Mac is worth the money.  I am tired of fighting with M$
   so even though XP was pretty decent.
  
   I have been struggling all afternoon to install a HP 2840 CLJ in Mac
   10.6.8, XP or ubuntu with no success.   on the mac, it starts up a HP
   setup assistant, which can't find the printer.  end of the show... no
   way to install it manually that I can find.  the printer add thing
   does not find the printer.
  
   XP problems, and ubunto is requiring a bunch of command line stuff I
   don't understand at all.  Jury is still out on ubuntu.  HPLIP 3.12.2
   has to be removed, and 3. 15.2 installed.  Who know what happens
   after that...
  
   just found out.  got to where I can launch a gui interface.  Now it
   can't find the printer.  Same as on the Mac.  Stupid HP.
   Overpriced, and crappy and make you buy a new printer because they
   won't update the drivers.
   ---
  
   Curly,
   I just installed an HP printer on my Mac (after the ink nozzle failed 
   on
   my previous one).
   Have you tried going to System Preferences/ Hardware/Print  Scan? On 
   my
   Mac, that window has a +/- thing on the left side of the window that 
   allows
   adding or removing a printer. When I did + it gave me a new screen to 
   add
   in the new printer. Hope you have good luck. It can be frustratingŠ
   Regards,
   Addison
  
   Yes, that was the first thing i tried.  no printer showed up.  Finally
   unplugged the USB cable at the printer and plugged it in again, and the
   printer showed up. (Both mac and ubuntu machines.)  Now it only prints
   blank pages. 'Nother problem.
  
   It wasted the first half day cleaning itself and trashing cartridges.
   Before that, I had to take out the memory and plug it back in to get 
   rid of
   the 79 error after several unsuccessful restarts. Wasted most of the 
   day
   and still have no working color printer.
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
What Curt said. There is no downgrade path.

Point of reference for the Mac folks out there:

I bought a Late 2008 MacBook from someone this week. They wanted to wipe it 
before they sent it to me, so they tossed an OS X 10.6.4 CD in it it (it was 
running OS X 10.6.6), booted from the CD and ran the installer.

Every time they tried this, the installer would fail, saying that Cannot 
install OS X on this system.  I had them erase and partition the drive, etc., 
all to no avail.

So Wednesday night, after a good hour of email exchanges with the guy, who 
wanted to pull the plug and call off the sale, I asked him if the CD he was 
using was the original restore disk for the MacBook.

No, it's from the iMac I'm emailing you from.

head slap

Restore disks for Apple products are hardware specific, that is, you typically 
can't use a restore disk from a laptop to restore a desktop and vice-versa.  
The image is unique and has drivers for the type of hardware only.

The only media you can use cross hardware are retail installers.

I told him to pack up the machine and send it and I would install a new OS.

Oy.

Dan

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 On Feb 6, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 You'd reinstall everything. The problem will be fixing yourself up with a 
 bootable copy of 10.x since you've likely got no install media. Apple makes 
 this VERY difficult for you. They don't want you going to an older OS, they 
 want you to upgrade like a good little droid.
 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] NOT CHEAP 300TD WAS RE: 300td pretty cheap

2015-02-06 Thread MG via Mercedes
Don't know about the euro part but it does have a turbo, you can 
see the intake bow. It does have SLS as you can see the pump on 
the front of the engine and you can also see the hoses going to 
and from the pump just behind the radiator on the left side. Also 
just a little bit of the SLS reservoir is visible at the extreme 
left of the picture. There is however no AC or electric fan on 
the front of the engine and a strange looking vacuum driven 
cruise control activator. Never seen one like it on an 83 300TD. 
I have 3 of them and have looked a about 5 more. Also never seen 
one on an 83 300D.


Manfred

Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 14:42:17 -0600
From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com

Probably EUro or RTW version.  Probably made without SLS, probably
NON-turbo, as Euros were NA.  I think turbos were mostly 
NorteAmerika

and Japan markets.



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Re: [MBZ] Greenest and Meanest for 2015 Model year from Greencars.org

2015-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Agree - they are quite impractical, but I am tempted to get one as a single
occupant commuter car.  Could toss the groceries in the back.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Lame that the two meanest were both work trucks. You can't haul much
 with a Smart...
 -Curt
   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 11:01 AM
  Subject: [MBZ] Greenest and Meanest for 2015 Model year from Greencars.org

 Mercedes tops the list for the Smart electric but has two on the meanest
 list as well.
 GreenestModel Year 2015 Make and model Specifications Emission standard
 a MPG city MPG hwy Green Score Mercedez-Benz Smart Fortwo Elec. Drive
 Convertible / Coupe 1, b Electric (Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.61 2.77
 61 Chevrolet
 Spark EV b Electric (Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.81 3.24 59 Fiat 500E b
 Electric
 (Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.63 3.21 59 Toyota Prius C 1.5L 4, auto CVT
 SULEV
 II / Bin 3 53 46 57 Nissan Leaf b Electric (Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.75
 3.01 57 Toyota Prius Plug-in Hybrid 2, c Electric (Li-ion bat.) / 1.8L 4,
 auto CVT PZEV / Bin 3 3.90 / 51 3.04 / 49 54 Lexus CT 200H 1.8L 4,
 auto CVT SULEV
 II / Bin 3 51 48 54 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.5L 4, auto CVT Bin 3 44 47 54
 Honda
 Civic Natural Gas 1.8L 4, auto [CNG] PZEV / Bin 2 27 38 54 Mitsubishi
 Mirage 1.2L
 3, auto CVT Bin 5 / LEV II 37 44 54 Ford Focus Electric b Electric (Li-ion
 bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.27 2.94 53 Volkswagen Jetta Hybrid 1.4L 4, auto [P]
 PZEV
 / Bin 3 42 48 53


 [CNG] denotes compressed natural gas
 [P] Denotes Premium Gasoline.
 Auto CVT denotes continuously variable automatic transmission.
 a A listing with two emission standards (e.g., Tier 2 Bin 2/ PZEV) denotes
 a single vehicle carrying both a federal and a California emission
 certification. Green Scores for such listings reflect the cleaner of the
 two certifications.
 b Fuel economy for electric vehicles is provided in miles per
 kilowatt-hour.
 c Fuel economy for plug-in hybrids is provided in miles per gallon for
 gasoline operation and in miles per kilowatt-hour for electric operation
 1. The gasoline-powered version of this vehicle scores a 53
 2. The non-plug in Prius also earns a Green Score of 54
 - See more at:
 http://greenercars.org/greenest-meanest/greenest#sthash.hc0PhKlF.dpuf

 Meanest
 Model Year 2015 Make and model Specifications Emission standard a MPG
 city MPG hwy Green Score Ram 2500 (CLASS 2B) 1, 2 5.7L 8, auto 4wd LEV II
 12
 17 17 Chevrolet G2500 Express / GMC Savana (CARGO CONVERSION) (MDPV)
 3, 4, 5 6.0L
 8, auto Bin 8 / ULEV II 10 15 18 Bugatti Veyron 8.0L 16, auto Awd [P] Bin 5
 / LEV II 8 15 19 Bentley Mulsanne 6.8L 8, auto stk [P] Bin 5 / LEV II 11 18
 21 Mercedes-Benz G 63 AMG 5.5L 8, auto 4wd [P] ULEV II / Bin 5 12 14
 21 Mercedes-Benz
 G 550 5.5L 8, auto 4wd [P] ULEV II / Bin 5 12 15 22 Rolls-Royce Phantom
 Drophead Coupe 6 6.7L 12, auto stk [P] Bin 5 / LEV II 11 19 23 Lamborghini
 Aventador Roadster 6.5L 12, auto Awd [P] Bin 5 / LEV II 10 16 23 Toyota
 Sequoia FFV 7 5.7L 8, auto stk 4wd Bin 5 13 17 23 Lexus LX 570 5.7L 8, auto
 stk 4wd [P] ULEV II / Bin 5 12 17 23 Ferrari FF 6.3L 12, auto 4wd [P] Bin 5
 / LEV II 11 16 23 Nissan Armada 5.6L 8, auto 4wd Bin 5 / LEV II 12 18 23


 auto stk denotes manually adjustable automatic transmission
 a. A listing with two emission standards (e.g., Tier 2 Bin 2/ PZEV) denotes
 a single vehicle carrying both a federal and a California emission
 certification. Green Scores for such listings reflect the cleaner of the
 two certifications.
 1. The 2wd version of this vehicle earns a Green Score of 18
 2. The ULEV version of this vehicle earns a Green Score of 21
 3. The Tier 2-only versions of these vehicles (bin 8 ) also earn a Green
 Score of 18
 4. The passenger versions of these vehicles earn a Green Score of 19
 5. The 3500 version of these vehicles earn a Green Score of 19
 6. The Rolls-Royce Phantom EWB also earns a Green Score of 23
 7. The non-FFV version of this vehicle also earns a Green Score of 23
 - See more at:
 http://greenercars.org/greenest-meanest/meanest#sthash.vKgvzAUe.dpuf
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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:07:37 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 The best workaround for me is to install Mavericks so I can at least
 print from the MP780.  What is Mavericks and how to I install it?  How
 would it affect my other applications?  My IMac is  running OS 10.9.5
 
 On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Looks like they stopped supporting this printer beginning with
  Mavericks (OS X 10.9).


You didn't understand what Dan said.

Dan said they STOPPED supporting your printer with Mavericks (which
he defined as 10.9). You need MacOS 10.8.x.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Greenest and Meanest for 2015 Model year from Greencars.org

2015-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Lame that the two meanest were both work trucks. You can't haul much with a 
Smart...
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 11:01 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Greenest and Meanest for 2015 Model year from Greencars.org
   
Mercedes tops the list for the Smart electric but has two on the meanest
list as well.
    GreenestModel Year 2015 Make and model Specifications Emission standard
a MPG city MPG hwy Green Score Mercedez-Benz Smart Fortwo Elec. Drive
Convertible / Coupe 1, b Electric (Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.61 2.77
61 Chevrolet
Spark EV b Electric (Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.81 3.24 59 Fiat 500E b Electric
(Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.63 3.21 59 Toyota Prius C 1.5L 4, auto CVT SULEV
II / Bin 3 53 46 57 Nissan Leaf b Electric (Li-ion bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.75
3.01 57 Toyota Prius Plug-in Hybrid 2, c Electric (Li-ion bat.) / 1.8L 4,
auto CVT PZEV / Bin 3 3.90 / 51 3.04 / 49 54 Lexus CT 200H 1.8L 4,
auto CVT SULEV
II / Bin 3 51 48 54 Honda Civic Hybrid 1.5L 4, auto CVT Bin 3 44 47 54 Honda
Civic Natural Gas 1.8L 4, auto [CNG] PZEV / Bin 2 27 38 54 Mitsubishi
Mirage 1.2L
3, auto CVT Bin 5 / LEV II 37 44 54 Ford Focus Electric b Electric (Li-ion
bat.) ZEV / Bin 1 3.27 2.94 53 Volkswagen Jetta Hybrid 1.4L 4, auto [P] PZEV
/ Bin 3 42 48 53


[CNG] denotes compressed natural gas
[P] Denotes Premium Gasoline.
Auto CVT denotes continuously variable automatic transmission.
a A listing with two emission standards (e.g., Tier 2 Bin 2/ PZEV) denotes
a single vehicle carrying both a federal and a California emission
certification. Green Scores for such listings reflect the cleaner of the
two certifications.
b Fuel economy for electric vehicles is provided in miles per kilowatt-hour.
c Fuel economy for plug-in hybrids is provided in miles per gallon for
gasoline operation and in miles per kilowatt-hour for electric operation
1. The gasoline-powered version of this vehicle scores a 53
2. The non-plug in Prius also earns a Green Score of 54
- See more at:
http://greenercars.org/greenest-meanest/greenest#sthash.hc0PhKlF.dpuf

Meanest
    Model Year 2015 Make and model Specifications Emission standard a MPG
city MPG hwy Green Score Ram 2500 (CLASS 2B) 1, 2 5.7L 8, auto 4wd LEV II 12
17 17 Chevrolet G2500 Express / GMC Savana (CARGO CONVERSION) (MDPV)
3, 4, 5 6.0L
8, auto Bin 8 / ULEV II 10 15 18 Bugatti Veyron 8.0L 16, auto Awd [P] Bin 5
/ LEV II 8 15 19 Bentley Mulsanne 6.8L 8, auto stk [P] Bin 5 / LEV II 11 18
21 Mercedes-Benz G 63 AMG 5.5L 8, auto 4wd [P] ULEV II / Bin 5 12 14
21 Mercedes-Benz
G 550 5.5L 8, auto 4wd [P] ULEV II / Bin 5 12 15 22 Rolls-Royce Phantom
Drophead Coupe 6 6.7L 12, auto stk [P] Bin 5 / LEV II 11 19 23 Lamborghini
Aventador Roadster 6.5L 12, auto Awd [P] Bin 5 / LEV II 10 16 23 Toyota
Sequoia FFV 7 5.7L 8, auto stk 4wd Bin 5 13 17 23 Lexus LX 570 5.7L 8, auto
stk 4wd [P] ULEV II / Bin 5 12 17 23 Ferrari FF 6.3L 12, auto 4wd [P] Bin 5
/ LEV II 11 16 23 Nissan Armada 5.6L 8, auto 4wd Bin 5 / LEV II 12 18 23


auto stk denotes manually adjustable automatic transmission
a. A listing with two emission standards (e.g., Tier 2 Bin 2/ PZEV) denotes
a single vehicle carrying both a federal and a California emission
certification. Green Scores for such listings reflect the cleaner of the
two certifications.
1. The 2wd version of this vehicle earns a Green Score of 18
2. The ULEV version of this vehicle earns a Green Score of 21
3. The Tier 2-only versions of these vehicles (bin 8 ) also earn a Green
Score of 18
4. The passenger versions of these vehicles earn a Green Score of 19
5. The 3500 version of these vehicles earn a Green Score of 19
6. The Rolls-Royce Phantom EWB also earns a Green Score of 23
7. The non-FFV version of this vehicle also earns a Green Score of 23
- See more at:
http://greenercars.org/greenest-meanest/meanest#sthash.vKgvzAUe.dpuf
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[MBZ] Cloning Windows Drives [was: Re: Korean malware FIXED]

2015-02-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:06:11 -0700 Craig via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 09:35:47 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  There have got to be some list members out there with PCs that are
  cloning drives.
 
 I cloned drives for Windows machines at the Lab by using my Linux
 Personal Computer and the dd command, once from the source disk to free
 space on a disk in the Linux PC, and then from the image on the PC's
 disk to the target disk. It worked great; no muss, no fuss.


When one copies the image of a smaller disk onto a larger disk, is the
excess space on the larger disk lost and gone forever or can it be
recovered by resizing the image to fit the new disk or making a new
partition on the new disk?


Crai

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Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED

2015-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You'd reinstall everything. The problem will be fixing yourself up with a 
bootable copy of 10.x since you've likely got no install media. Apple makes 
this VERY difficult for you. They don't want you going to an older OS, they 
want you to upgrade like a good little droid.
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Craig diese...@pisquared.net; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 6, 2015 11:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Installing HP Printer was Korean malware FIXED
   
Since I have an updated MacOS 109.5 how would I go back to 10.8?

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:07:37 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  The best workaround for me is to install Mavericks so I can at least
  print from the MP780.  What is Mavericks and how to I install it?  How
  would it affect my other applications?  My IMac is  running OS 10.9.5
 
  On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
   Looks like they stopped supporting this printer beginning with
   Mavericks (OS X 10.9).


 You didn't understand what Dan said.

 Dan said they STOPPED supporting your printer with Mavericks (which
 he defined as 10.9). You need MacOS 10.8.x.


 Craig

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