Re: [MBZ] Perpetual motion at last!

2015-03-10 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
OK Don wrote:
 You could also capture the flexing of the tire as
 it rolls and becomes flat at the bottom with a piezo-electric chip to
 generate electricity, or do both!

Great feature!!
It will make good use of our failing washboard and pothole asphalt
infrastructure and this feature might also enable better use of the
failing railroad infrastructure, turning railroad ties into wonderful
roads.
It is great that fedgov came up with such great idea!  We need more
fedgov for more better ideas.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] SL

2015-03-10 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

Another Mercedes and electronics type ... how did he find out that the
Tek scopes would sweeten the deal?


Coworker.  We'd talked Tek before.  That makes five Tek scopes
for me, now.  And one Heathkit!  I just fixed the little Tek 2336,
a wire had broken off of the focus control, it was _bad_ that way.
the beam width was nearly one major division!

How hard is the ride with them? You could swap the tires before you 
flip

the car ...


Seemed fine.  They're H, not Z rated.  Falken Ze512's, that was the Z
he was talking about.  I read mixed reviews of them.  The PO really 
liked

them, though.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Checking your 722.6 Transmission for Wear

2015-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Some of you might find this interesting reading:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w140-s-class/2212242-handy-way-determine-how-worn-out.html#post10709594

I'm going to check my cars and see where they end up.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Perpetual motion at last!

2015-03-10 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Mar 9, 2015 2:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 I think if all cars had a windmill on top that could generate electricity
to run the motors we would see huge fuel savings.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/29/video-imiev-has-wind-turbine-in-the-grill-solar-panel-on-the-r/

I vaguely recall BMW was working on wind turbines at around the same time,
to replace the alternator for performance reasons.  I can't imagine that
would work well in stop-and-go, though, and I couldn't find the article in
a few seconds of searching.

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It's always great sport trying to figure out local Arizona time.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 fmiser wrote:
  I think HI and AZ are the only states that still don't.

 NM is seriously considering no DST - just to be like their neighbor,
 perhaps.  Correct? Craig?
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD: The faster I drive the colder it gets

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Yes.  He sent my daughter a part and he still hasn't called me to get a 
CC to pay him.


--R



On 3/9/15 7:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

No

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2015, at 6:57 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

...has anyone heard from Gary or ordered anything recently?

My son ordered some stuff online a few weeks ago for his 240D.  Gary emailed 
him back offering to substitute better quality stuff at the same price.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of archer75--- 
via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 4:41 PM
To: Jon Agne; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD: The faster I drive the colder it gets

I bought one from Gary when he first started his parts business. It's still 
working well for however long that's been; 2, 3 years or more? IIRC the price 
was $30-$35.
BTW, has anyone heard from Gary or ordered anything recently? I sent him an 
email and received no reply.
Gerry

Jon Agne wrote:

Because it’s CRAP.  I went through 3 of these things from Rusty.  Finally 
ordered real MB part (yes, it’s expensive) and it has worked flawlessly now for 
3 years.  Same with the aux pump.  DO NOT order chinese versions.  You WILL 
regret it.

Jon



On Mar 9, 2015, at 12:09 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

This one is really cheap.  What's the catch?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W123-HVAC-Heater-Control-Mono-Valve-Kit-0008350644-/261484645304?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item3ce1b30bb8vxp=mtr
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W123-HVAC-Heater-Control-Mono-Valve-Kit-0008350644-/261484645304?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item3ce1b30bb8vxp=mtr

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Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The stealer guy said the ML wants service at like 10k intervals but the 
computer will tell the driver when it wants attention.  That seems kinda 
crazy but I guess our electronic overlords know best.


--R

On 3/9/15 10:52 PM, Tom Savage via Mercedes wrote:

On Mar 9, 2015 8:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



Fuel economy is not as good with the V6 due to the more restrictive
diesel particulate filter. Also it requires hard-to-find 229.52 oil to
keep the filter happy.

What are examples of 229.52 oil? Anything made by Mobil?


Here's the full list:
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.52_en.html

There are five times as many oils listed now as there were just a few
months ago. I'm running this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00R0CRISI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1425955466

I don't know what the max oil change interval is, probably 13k miles.
Kaleb is forgiven for using the wrong oil as my local dealer does the same
thing, but you really want to keep the filter healthy.

Tom
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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Where is he getting 250hp?
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion 
List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car
   
Plastic dip paint? WTF is he talking about?

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 needs a good plasti dip paint job and some rims

 Yo you needs some twennyfos yo

 And isn't plasti dip that stuff you use to put rubbery handles on tools?

 --R



 On 3/9/15 7:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

 We had a deal at 2500 and he backs out. I'm going to email him from a
 different email account and offer less

 turbo diesel mercedes 350sd
 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4924501562.html

 via cPro Craigslist App
 iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS
 Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android


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Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Where is this, Mitch?

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:25 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 My local RS stores are franchises that are not only staying open, but are
 expanding their parts departments and are already stocking third party
 electronic components.

 Needless to say, I give 'em my business all that I can.  :)

 -MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

needs a good plasti dip paint job and some rims

Yo you needs some twennyfos yo

And isn't plasti dip that stuff you use to put rubbery handles on tools?

--R



On 3/9/15 7:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

We had a deal at 2500 and he backs out. I'm going to email him from a different 
email account and offer less

turbo diesel mercedes 350sd
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4924501562.html

via cPro Craigslist App
iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS
Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android


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Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm worried about where I'll find that personal submarine I've always been 
wanting should I finally hit it rich.
-Curt

  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing
   
Oh no!  Now what overpriced weird stuff am I going to buy on the airplane?

--R



On 3/9/15 11:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 Sky Mall is also dead or about to be so. No Sky Mall catalog on my flight 
 yesterday.
 -Curt

        From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 10:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing
    
 Sharper Image stores have vanished too - except online they are still
 hawking their cool stuff.

 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So where will get our needles now?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 9, 2015, at 7:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I wonder if they're closing down their mailorder operation as well? I've
 bought several things there the stores didn't stock such as phonograph
 needles.
 Gerry
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Such a shame.
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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

2015-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
For whatever reason, I've never been able to get the US version to work.  I've 
tried it on different computers, with different credit cards, etc. and never 
had it work.

I've probably been banned.

Nearly everything in the online EPC can be found elsewhere if you look hard 
enough.  I have a DAS diagnostic system, so the EPC and WIS is a part of it, so 
it's a moot point for me.

Dan




 On Mar 9, 2015, at 10:59 PM, Tom Savage via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Mar 9, 2015 8:43 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 I looked at that the other day and it wanted some sort of paid
 subscription. Is that so?
 
 
 The global version carries a nominal subscription fee, but the version
 covering  US models only is free. It is only available in the US, and a
 credit card from an American bank is apparently sufficient proof that you
 are not French.
 
 Tom
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Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Better not be for $180,000.
Sky Mall always had crazy crap like that. I think they went out of business 
because much of their catalog was crazy crap nobody would ever buy.
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing
   
Is this the sub for a bath tub?


On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

I'm worried about where I'll find that personal submarine I've always been 
wanting should I finally hit it rich.
-Curt

      From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

Oh no!  Now what overpriced weird stuff am I going to buy on the airplane?

--R



On 3/9/15 11:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 Sky Mall is also dead or about to be so. No Sky Mall catalog on my flight 
 yesterday.
 -Curt

        From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 10:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing
   
 Sharper Image stores have vanished too - except online they are still
 hawking their cool stuff.

 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So where will get our needles now?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 9, 2015, at 7:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I wonder if they're closing down their mailorder operation as well? I've
 bought several things there the stores didn't stock such as phonograph
 needles.
 Gerry
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Such a shame.
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Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Oh no!  Now what overpriced weird stuff am I going to buy on the airplane?

--R



On 3/9/15 11:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Sky Mall is also dead or about to be so. No Sky Mall catalog on my flight 
yesterday.
-Curt

   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net; Mercedes Discussion List 
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  Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 10:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

Sharper Image stores have vanished too - except online they are still

hawking their cool stuff.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


So where will get our needles now?

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2015, at 7:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 

mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I wonder if they're closing down their mailorder operation as well? I've

bought several things there the stores didn't stock such as phonograph
needles.

Gerry

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Such a shame.

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Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I buy stuff from DealExtreme, it is really cheap but sometimes takes a 
month or 6 weeks to show up via Hong Kong post, but never a problem with 
anything.  Some stuff I got recently was shipped via Netherlands Post, I 
have no idea what that was about.


Their web site is like crack, usually by the time I get stuff I have 
lost interest in whatever project I was going to build but it is so 
cheap so doesn't really matter.  I bought all my LED lights for the new 
kitchen from them, good stuff at good prices.


--R



On 3/10/15 12:47 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
 I think their biggest mistake was hiring stupid staffers. The ones 
I've been to in the last couple years were strictly minimum wage and 
hired the idiots that were too stupid to work at Best Buy. I finally 
got to the point where they'd let me alone and I could go buy solder 
or connectors or whatnot.
The problem is that real makers wanted no part of Radio Shack because 
there was no help and worse the clerks would get in the way. Most 
real makers buy stuff online.
There are a few (dammed few) real old school electronics places 
around. Frys still carries a good stock of stuff and I'm fortunate 
enough to get to California often enough I can peruse the Frys in 
Burbank (going tomorrow I think). In Boston theres U Do it 
electronics, theres an independent in Littleton, MA too that is very 
good but I can't remember the name. The good independents make it on 
their staff, same as good hardware stores...

-Curt


Digikey   I get it in a day or two.

The indy store closed years ago.

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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Plastic dip paint? WTF is he talking about?

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 needs a good plasti dip paint job and some rims

 Yo you needs some twennyfos yo

 And isn't plasti dip that stuff you use to put rubbery handles on tools?

 --R



 On 3/9/15 7:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

 We had a deal at 2500 and he backs out. I'm going to email him from a
 different email account and offer less

 turbo diesel mercedes 350sd
 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4924501562.html

 via cPro Craigslist App
 iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS
 Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android


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Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The computer is sited in Washington, D.C. so it can track your every
movement and confiscate all your guns.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 The stealer guy said the ML wants service at like 10k intervals but the
 computer will tell the driver when it wants attention.  That seems kinda
 crazy but I guess our electronic overlords know best.

 --R

 On 3/9/15 10:52 PM, Tom Savage via Mercedes wrote:

 On Mar 9, 2015 8:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:


  Fuel economy is not as good with the V6 due to the more restrictive
 diesel particulate filter. Also it requires hard-to-find 229.52 oil to
 keep the filter happy.

 What are examples of 229.52 oil? Anything made by Mobil?

  Here's the full list:
 http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.52_en.html

 There are five times as many oils listed now as there were just a few
 months ago. I'm running this:
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00R0CRISI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1425955466

 I don't know what the max oil change interval is, probably 13k miles.
 Kaleb is forgiven for using the wrong oil as my local dealer does the same
 thing, but you really want to keep the filter healthy.

 Tom
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Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Is this the sub for a bath tub?

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I'm worried about where I'll find that personal submarine I've always been
 wanting should I finally hit it rich.
 -Curt

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  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

 Oh no!  Now what overpriced weird stuff am I going to buy on the airplane?

 --R



 On 3/9/15 11:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
  Sky Mall is also dead or about to be so. No Sky Mall catalog on my
 flight yesterday.
  -Curt
 
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   To: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net; Mercedes Discussion List 
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   Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 10:04 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing
 
  Sharper Image stores have vanished too - except online they are still
  hawking their cool stuff.
 
  On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  So where will get our needles now?
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 9, 2015, at 7:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I wonder if they're closing down their mailorder operation as well?
 I've
  bought several things there the stores didn't stock such as phonograph
  needles.
  Gerry
  Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
  Such a shame.
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That's what happens when you get in a hurry

Dan

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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Poos is so incompetent 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Oh believe me I know.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 That's what happens when you get in a hurry
 
 Dan
 
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 9:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Poos is so incompetent 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior update

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
If it has the acc 3 with puchbuttons, I think it does.  But I don't 
know.  Never drove a 123 300D on the road.



I don't think a 123 has a voltage regulator porcupine? 


I do think that removing and testing the fan motor is next.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 10, 2015 5:48:51 PM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Try getting a used fan and swap it out. (Car-part.com  Should be $25
or less)  Could be a bad porcupine also.   Max can tell you about
testing the porcupine.  Basically, power and ground in, modulated
power out.  should be full power on defrost.




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[MBZ] Urgently Needed: Viton(?) Injector Return Line

2015-03-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes
Someone on the list mentioned getting some tubing for injector return
lines from McMaster-Carr, IIRC. I also recall that it worked out well.

Since our '82 240D/3.0 is again our main driver, I have found that the
return lines are weeping rather badly. And since my lungs have recently
been insulted by something Shirley used to do some hand washing, I need
to fix the return lines so their leaks don't continue to exacerbate my
problems.

What did you buy?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Poos is so incompetent 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 10, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yes, we've all been there, so I'll be happy to share
 
 So I took the day off today to go with the wife and her sister, who is 
 visiting, to the Sunken Gardens, a relic of the old Florida tourista 
 places.  We take her car, the 2005 Mazda 6, since mine is not adequate for 
 three adults.
 
 As I drive her car over to St. Pete, it's missing and surging something 
 awful.  The CEL is flashing occasionally as well.  Great.
 
 I ask, Oh dear, has you car been acting up lately?
 
 Yeah, it's been running poorly since yesterday.
 
 (Great.  NOW she tells me.)
 
 I chide her for not telling me about before we left, or better yet, last 
 night when she got home.  A good example why I'm not keen about her driving 
 an MB, as I fear that a situation such as this would be ignored until it 
 escalated into something critical.  Grrr.  To her a car is nothing more than 
 transportation.
 
 So we get home this afternoon and I immediately put my scanner on it.  P0306, 
 both constant and pending, meaning that the COP for the number six cylinder 
 has gone south.  I'm thinking I'm living right, as cylinders one through 
 three in this car are in back and under the intake manifold, a job that is 
 not for the faint of heart and something I've already deferred to the dealer 
 in the past.
 
 Cylinders four through six are right in front under an easily removable 
 plastic cover.  Whew!
 
 I get online and using my perpetual 30% discount code for the Advanced Auto 
 that's nearby, I order one for pickup.
 
 I take my car out and drop off my dry cleaning and pick up the COP.  Get back 
 home, pop the cover off the engine, and in ten minutes I'm done. Time for a 
 test drive.
 
 I realized I needed to replenish my supply of cold beverages, so I drive to 
 the nearby grocery store to pick some up.  The car runs like crap.  Damn!  
 Fortunately, I had left the code scanner in the car and connected, so I was 
 scanning while I'm driving only to see the P0306 code again.  What???
 
 Hmm.  Could be a bad coil out of the box, could be a fouled plug.
 
 I get back home, toss the hood open and once again remove the plastic cover.
 
 I forgot to plug the coil in.
 
 head slap
 
 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Could be interesting

2015-03-10 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Bummer, no Dissel power option.  The Transit Connect and Ram Promaster do have 
Diesels, a 3.2l 5 cyl and 3.0l 4 cyl respectively  

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR who likes that Diesel sound

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 10, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 http://www.autonews.com/article/20150305/OEM04/150309896
 
 Too bad Jaime can't convince MomBUSA to get em to bring in the Vito Dissel in 
 place of the gasser.
 
 Even so, it might be an alternative to the dogde van in a few years.
 
 (Also borrowed from the MBCA Hawaii section)
 
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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I thought Kaleb said there was no shaking?

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:48 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Shaking at idle = motor mounts?

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car


  CAR SHAKE AT IDLE?

 --R

 On 3/10/15 11:04 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

 Yea, it drives fine, suspension and steering feel good, shifts are
 perfect if a little on the stiff side (good), has plenty of power, idles
 smooth and does not shake from side to side like it has uneven compression
 from a bent rod.




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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Shaking at idle = motor mounts?

Wilton

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CAR SHAKE AT IDLE?

--R

On 3/10/15 11:04 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Yea, it drives fine, suspension and steering feel good, shifts are 
perfect if a little on the stiff side (good), has plenty of power, idles 
smooth and does not shake from side to side like it has uneven 
compression from a bent rod.






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[MBZ] Hey Max, about that airbag...

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
This might be fun to do, but around our locale the use of a watermelon 
would not be advised


http://sploid.gizmodo.com/this-is-what-happens-when-an-airbag-deploys-a-hundredth-1690481385

--R



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Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Many moons ago I worked with this woman, a sales babe (she subscribed to 
this description and flaunted it, and totally was) was going on one 
evening at dinner about how she and her husband took showers together 
but one was always cold because both couldn't be under the shower together.


So I was flying back home a coupla days later from wherever this 
conversation took place, and saw a double shower head thing in that 
catalog, one shower head was on this long bending arm that could stick 
out and over the tub or whatever, and the other was where the normal 
shower head was.  So I ripped out that page and sent it to her.  She was 
totally crazy over it, and bought one.  At some time later when I saw 
her again somewhere, I got a FULL report on it. She loved it, and 
apparently so did her husband.  Like they both really loved it.  A lot.  
nudgenudgewinkwinksaynomore


--R (SkyMall-enabled Couples Therapist)



On 3/10/15 10:22 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Better not be for $180,000.
Sky Mall always had crazy crap like that. I think they went out of business 
because much of their catalog was crazy crap nobody would ever buy.
-Curt

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  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

Is this the sub for a bath tub?



On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

I'm worried about where I'll find that personal submarine I've always been 
wanting should I finally hit it rich.
-Curt

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  Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

Oh no!  Now what overpriced weird stuff am I going to buy on the airplane?

--R



On 3/9/15 11:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Sky Mall is also dead or about to be so. No Sky Mall catalog on my flight 
yesterday.
-Curt

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   To: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net; Mercedes Discussion List 
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   Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 10:04 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

Sharper Image stores have vanished too - except online they are still

hawking their cool stuff.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


So where will get our needles now?

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2015, at 7:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 

mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

I wonder if they're closing down their mailorder operation as well? I've

bought several things there the stores didn't stock such as phonograph
needles.

Gerry

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Such a shame.

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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yea, it drives fine, suspension and steering feel good, shifts are 
perfect if a little on the stiff side (good), has plenty of power, 
idles smooth and does not shake from side to side like it has 
uneven compression from a bent rod.



On 3/10/2015 9:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Have you done a test drive?

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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This thing has been bugging me big time.  I have wanted a
last model year 126 diesel for many many years but they
almost never come up for sale.  This one is pretty well
documented service wise.  It still has a chance of bending
rods I suppose but at 228K I think the big chance of that
has already passed.  I for some reason think the head gasket
was done which I believe is what the main cause of bent rods
is in the first place.  We had a deal at $2500 and then he
comes back and says he has to have $2800 just angers me.
Maybe I am wrong, maybe I should just pony up the extra
$300, I still think its probably decent deal but not as
cheap as I would have liked especially since it will need
tires, glow plugs, and rear muffler right off the bat.


On 3/10/2015 8:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

needs a good plasti dip paint job and some rims

Yo you needs some twennyfos yo

And isn't plasti dip that stuff you use to put rubbery
handles on tools?

--R



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We had a deal at 2500 and he backs out. I'm going to
email him from a different email account and offer less

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http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4924501562.html

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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
That's the power you get when you run it on FREE VEG OIL but then drops 
from 40mpg to more like 25 but it is still FREE


--R



On 3/10/15 10:21 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Where is he getting 250hp?
-Curt

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Plastic dip paint? WTF is he talking about?


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needs a good plasti dip paint job and some rims

Yo you needs some twennyfos yo

And isn't plasti dip that stuff you use to put rubbery handles on tools?

--R



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We had a deal at 2500 and he backs out. I'm going to email him from a
different email account and offer less

turbo diesel mercedes 350sd
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4924501562.html

via cPro Craigslist App
iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS
Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android


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Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Fortunately it was something simple...when I saw the codes the CEL was 
throwing, I was almost certain I had left it unplugged.

Six cylinder cars don't run well on five cylinders

Dan



 On Mar 10, 2015, at 9:26 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes my mother used to say that haste makes waste. Glad you have it  figured 
 out
 
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 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 That's what happens when you get in a hurry
 
 Dan
 
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  mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Poos is so incompetent
 
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[MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yes, we've all been there, so I'll be happy to share

So I took the day off today to go with the wife and her sister, who is 
visiting, to the Sunken Gardens, a relic of the old Florida tourista places.  
We take her car, the 2005 Mazda 6, since mine is not adequate for three adults.

As I drive her car over to St. Pete, it's missing and surging something awful.  
The CEL is flashing occasionally as well.  Great.

I ask, Oh dear, has you car been acting up lately?

Yeah, it's been running poorly since yesterday.

(Great.  NOW she tells me.)

I chide her for not telling me about before we left, or better yet, last night 
when she got home.  A good example why I'm not keen about her driving an MB, as 
I fear that a situation such as this would be ignored until it escalated into 
something critical.  Grrr.  To her a car is nothing more than transportation.

So we get home this afternoon and I immediately put my scanner on it.  P0306, 
both constant and pending, meaning that the COP for the number six cylinder has 
gone south.  I'm thinking I'm living right, as cylinders one through three in 
this car are in back and under the intake manifold, a job that is not for the 
faint of heart and something I've already deferred to the dealer in the past.

Cylinders four through six are right in front under an easily removable plastic 
cover.  Whew!

I get online and using my perpetual 30% discount code for the Advanced Auto 
that's nearby, I order one for pickup.

I take my car out and drop off my dry cleaning and pick up the COP.  Get back 
home, pop the cover off the engine, and in ten minutes I'm done. Time for a 
test drive.

I realized I needed to replenish my supply of cold beverages, so I drive to the 
nearby grocery store to pick some up.  The car runs like crap.  Damn!  
Fortunately, I had left the code scanner in the car and connected, so I was 
scanning while I'm driving only to see the P0306 code again.  What???

Hmm.  Could be a bad coil out of the box, could be a fouled plug.

I get back home, toss the hood open and once again remove the plastic cover.

I forgot to plug the coil in.

head slap

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes my mother used to say that haste makes waste. Glad you have it  figured
out
On Mar 10, 2015 9:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 That's what happens when you get in a hurry

 Dan

  On Mar 10, 2015, at 9:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Poos is so incompetent
 
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Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior update

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Good luck in getting the buttons to work properly. Currently I have 
to punch the button next to the defrost button to get the fan 
running, and then punch the middle or button on its right to get hot 
or cold. Spraying the buttons mechanisms with Deoxit improved the 
situation but I still have to go through the process of getting the 
fan running, and then punching the hot or cold button. I replaced 
all three control units with used units from Arizona, which didn't 
work at all until I resoldered the button unit. (The original unit 
had burnt up while driving; probably because I accidentally punched 
two buttons simultaneously). The Arizona units had the same defects.
I suspect that the problem might be in the pushbutton contacts or 
the mechanisms that engage one while disingaging another.

Gerry


All good reasons I love the 240D and older cars with the dual heat 
manual controls.   ACC was a gimmick to sell expensive cars, but is 
never allowed separate R and L control, and is always breaking. ()


My favorite 300D would be a 240D 3.0

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Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes



So we get home this afternoon and I immediately put my scanner on 
it.  P0306, both constant and pending, meaning that the COP for the 
number six cylinder has gone south.  I'm thinking I'm living right, 
as cylinders one through three in this car are in back and under the 
intake manifold, a job that is not for the faint of heart and 
something I've already deferred to the dealer in the past.


Cylinders four through six are right in front under an easily 
removable plastic cover.  Whew!



Dan


So mazda says #1 is #6 and so on?   Bass ackwards, even worse than 
whitworth and the prince of Darkness.



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[MBZ] Could be interesting

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

http://www.autonews.com/article/20150305/OEM04/150309896

Too bad Jaime can't convince MomBUSA to get em to bring in the Vito 
Dissel in place of the gasser.


Even so, it might be an alternative to the dogde van in a few years.

(Also borrowed from the MBCA Hawaii section)

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Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That's what happens when you let yourself run out of cold beverages -
never let that happen!

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 snip
 I realized I needed to replenish my supply of cold beverages, so I drive
 to the nearby grocery store to pick some up.  The car runs like crap.
 Damn!  Fortunately, I had left the code scanner in the car and connected,
 so I was scanning while I'm driving only to see the P0306 code again.
 What???

 Hmm.  Could be a bad coil out of the box, could be a fouled plug.

 I get back home, toss the hood open and once again remove the plastic
 cover.

 I forgot to plug the coil in.

 head slap

 Dan




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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

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2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Humbling Experience

2015-03-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I was thinking the same thing.

I believe the Adult Beverage Low Warning Light may have been flashing at
a high cyclic rate that caused a shadow which blanked out the coil
connection from normal vision recognition.

The ABLWL light works in conjunction with the ABOLL [Adult Beverage Over
Limit Light] which, as you know, causes CUSPMS  [Coyote Ugly Surprise
Partner Morning Syndrome] .

CUSPMS is recognized by all Divorce Court Judges, thus lending standing to
the validity of both the ABLWL light and the ABOLL.

:))

Grant...

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:25 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 That's what happens when you let yourself run out of cold beverages -
 never let that happen!

 On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  snip
  I realized I needed to replenish my supply of cold beverages, so I drive
  to the nearby grocery store to pick some up.  The car runs like crap.
  Damn!  Fortunately, I had left the code scanner in the car and connected,
  so I was scanning while I'm driving only to see the P0306 code again.
  What???
 
  Hmm.  Could be a bad coil out of the box, could be a fouled plug.
 
  I get back home, toss the hood open and once again remove the plastic
  cover.
 
  I forgot to plug the coil in.
 
  head slap
 
  Dan
 
 


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 learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
 for themselves.

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 2013 F150, 18 mpg
 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sounds like an autocentric Catfish.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Retain Snook, sue the kid in small claims court.

 Or get over it and find a different car to buy...
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 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Urgently Needed: Viton(?) Injector Return Line

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
1/8 ID viton tubing.I think it was Curt who used McMaster.  I 
bought it locally



Someone on the list mentioned getting some tubing for injector return
lines from McMaster-Carr, IIRC. I also recall that it worked out well.

Since our '82 240D/3.0 is again our main driver, I have found that the
return lines are weeping rather badly. And since my lungs have recently
been insulted by something Shirley used to do some hand washing, I need
to fix the return lines so their leaks don't continue to exacerbate my
problems.

What did you buy?

Thanks,

Craig



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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

K'leb car:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-4-DOOR-LOADED-1990-mercedes-benz-350-sdl-diesel-/251871916602?forcerrptr=truehash=item3aa4bc723aitem=251871916602pt=US_Cars_Trucks

not a 1991, but at kleb price, and rebuilt rodbender.

Wish I knew someone who'd  drive a car from Miami to Gulfport.

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Re: [MBZ] Checking your 722.6 Transmission for Wear

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I need to check my 97 e300, it shifts fine but I suspect it is 
getting a little on the worn out side.  I think that is the deal 
with these .6 boxes, they shift fine even when worn out until they 
just quit, but that is just my impression.



On 3/10/2015 6:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Some of you might find this interesting reading:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w140-s-class/2212242-handy-way-determine-how-worn-out.html#post10709594

I'm going to check my cars and see where they end up.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Have you done a test drive?

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 This thing has been bugging me big time.  I have wanted a last model year
 126 diesel for many many years but they almost never come up for sale.
 This one is pretty well documented service wise.  It still has a chance of
 bending rods I suppose but at 228K I think the big chance of that has
 already passed.  I for some reason think the head gasket was done which I
 believe is what the main cause of bent rods is in the first place.  We had
 a deal at $2500 and then he comes back and says he has to have $2800 just
 angers me.  Maybe I am wrong, maybe I should just pony up the extra $300, I
 still think its probably decent deal but not as cheap as I would have liked
 especially since it will need tires, glow plugs, and rear muffler right off
 the bat.


 On 3/10/2015 8:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

 needs a good plasti dip paint job and some rims

 Yo you needs some twennyfos yo

 And isn't plasti dip that stuff you use to put rubbery handles on tools?

 --R



 On 3/9/15 7:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

 We had a deal at 2500 and he backs out. I'm going to email him from a
 different email account and offer less

 turbo diesel mercedes 350sd
 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4924501562.html

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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
SO spring for the extra $300 - YOU WON'T REGRET IT.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Yea, it drives fine, suspension and steering feel good, shifts are perfect
 if a little on the stiff side (good), has plenty of power, idles smooth and
 does not shake from side to side like it has uneven compression from a bent
 rod.


 On 3/10/2015 9:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 Have you done a test drive?

 On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 This thing has been bugging me big time.  I have wanted a
 last model year 126 diesel for many many years but they
 almost never come up for sale.  This one is pretty well
 documented service wise.  It still has a chance of bending
 rods I suppose but at 228K I think the big chance of that
 has already passed.  I for some reason think the head gasket
 was done which I believe is what the main cause of bent rods
 is in the first place.  We had a deal at $2500 and then he
 comes back and says he has to have $2800 just angers me.
 Maybe I am wrong, maybe I should just pony up the extra
 $300, I still think its probably decent deal but not as
 cheap as I would have liked especially since it will need
 tires, glow plugs, and rear muffler right off the bat.


 On 3/10/2015 8:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

 needs a good plasti dip paint job and some rims

 Yo you needs some twennyfos yo

 And isn't plasti dip that stuff you use to put rubbery
 handles on tools?

 --R



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 We had a deal at 2500 and he backs out. I'm going to
 email him from a different email account and offer less

 turbo diesel mercedes 350sd
 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4924501562.html

 via cPro Craigslist App
 iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS
 Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android


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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
This thing has been bugging me big time.  I have wanted a last 
model year 126 diesel for many many years but they almost never 
come up for sale.  This one is pretty well documented service 
wise.  It still has a chance of bending rods I suppose but at 228K 
I think the big chance of that has already passed.  I for some 
reason think the head gasket was done which I believe is what the 
main cause of bent rods is in the first place.  We had a deal at 
$2500 and then he comes back and says he has to have $2800 just 
angers me.  Maybe I am wrong, maybe I should just pony up the 
extra $300, I still think its probably decent deal but not as 
cheap as I would have liked especially since it will need tires, 
glow plugs, and rear muffler right off the bat.



On 3/10/2015 8:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

needs a good plasti dip paint job and some rims

Yo you needs some twennyfos yo

And isn't plasti dip that stuff you use to put rubbery handles 
on tools?


--R



On 3/9/15 7:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
We had a deal at 2500 and he backs out. I'm going to email him 
from a different email account and offer less


turbo diesel mercedes 350sd
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4924501562.html

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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

2015-03-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I'm using both Vista and Windows 7, at home (work blocks the Java connection to 
servers not on a white list, I think).  Need to have current Java installed and 
set up correctly.  Mac is not supported.

Sometimes a Java update will kill it until the EPC developers catch up, may 
take a month or longer.  Choice is to roll back Java or do without EPC.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

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For whatever reason, I've never been able to get the US version to
work.  I've tried it on different computers, with different credit
cards, etc. and never had it work.



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Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Didn't that chain get bought by Family Dollar?  Or the other way 
around?  Might be reorientation over that.


--R



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Radio junk here was gone in a week after the announcement.

We used to have 2 radio junk stores.


Today I see the Dollar General is closing.   Bad sign when Dollar Gen 
can't make it.


Family Dollar near my Daughter's house is gone also, but Dollar Gen 
closed one and opened 2 new stores there.


I am wondering if we may be getting a new Dollar Gen.

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[MBZ] top gear stripped?

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Sounds like top gear may be stripped.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31824040

Borrowed form MBCA Hawaii section:


Don't know, don't care  no cable tv.

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[MBZ] OT Unbroken

2015-03-10 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Anyone read the book Unbroken by Laura Hillenbrand?

I am just about through it.
About Louis Zamperini - an American who crashed into the Pacific and 
survived 46 days in a life raft and then about 2 years as a Japanese POW.


I think there is a movie now too but have not seen it.

A pretty good read.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] top gear stripped?

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
There's a fine line between charm and irritating...

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
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 bub but but that was the charm of the show!

 --R



 On 3/10/15 2:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 I hadn't realized he was such an a**hole.  Good riddance.

 On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Sounds like top gear may be stripped.

 http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31824040

 Borrowed form MBCA Hawaii section:


 Don't know, don't care  no cable tv.

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Re: [MBZ] top gear stripped?

2015-03-10 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


We rednecks are offended that he has been suspended.
I think I will write to complain.

(or, in other words, let us make this into one more politically correct 
boring show so no one will want to watch it anyway)


RB

On 10/03/2015 1:43 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

bub but but that was the charm of the show!

--R





On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
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Sounds like top gear may be stripped.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31824040

Borrowed form MBCA Hawaii section:


Don't know, don't care  no cable tv.

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Re: [MBZ] top gear stripped?

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
So, when the producer said  The show's executive producer, Andy Wilman, 
described last year as an anus horribilis for the programme he was 
referring to Jeremy?


But the irritation was the charm, like how someone so irritating could 
be so... irritating.  It made it fun to watch him be subjected to 
unpleasant situations.


--R



On 3/10/15 2:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

There's a fine line between charm and irritating...

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
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bub but but that was the charm of the show!

--R



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I hadn't realized he was such an a**hole.  Good riddance.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
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Sounds like top gear may be stripped.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31824040

Borrowed form MBCA Hawaii section:


Don't know, don't care  no cable tv.

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Re: [MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

2015-03-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Radio junk here was gone in a week after the announcement.

We used to have 2 radio junk stores.


Today I see the Dollar General is closing.   Bad sign when Dollar Gen 
can't make it.


Family Dollar near my Daughter's house is gone also, but Dollar Gen 
closed one and opened 2 new stores there.


I am wondering if we may be getting a new Dollar Gen.

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Re: [MBZ] top gear stripped?

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not clear if his racial slurs occurred on or off the air.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 We rednecks are offended that he has been suspended.
 I think I will write to complain.

 (or, in other words, let us make this into one more politically correct
 boring show so no one will want to watch it anyway)

 RB

 On 10/03/2015 1:43 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

 bub but but that was the charm of the show!

 --R




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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Sounds like top gear may be stripped.

 http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31824040

 Borrowed form MBCA Hawaii section:


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Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior update

2015-03-10 Thread G. M. Brown via Mercedes
For anyone keeping track, I changed out the PBU with a spare I have and the 
same thing occurs where the interior fan does not come on when the Hi-speed fan 
and middle (lower) PBU button are depressed after the car is started but the 
fan will start when the defrost button is depressed, so it looks like I've 
gotta' look into the connection(s) to the fan itself.

G. M. Brown
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Re: [MBZ] top gear stripped?

2015-03-10 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
So, when the producer said  The show's executive producer, Andy  
Wilman, described last year as an anus horribilis for the programme  
he was referring to Jeremy?


But the irritation was the charm, like how someone so irritating could  
be so... irritating.  It made it fun to watch him be subjected to  
unpleasant situations.


--R

As the Lady Dowager in Downton Abbey remarked, there is a point at  
which malice is no longer amusing, and you've just reached it.


Top Gear has it's good points, but being a complete jerk on the air  
(and racially offensive at that) goes too far.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Unbroken

2015-03-10 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Supposed to be a great movie, which of course means it won't do well  
at the box office but will be around a long time.  NPR interviewed the  
director a couple months ago, and the guy it's based on got to see a  
preliminary cut, he died before it was finalized.


I plan to see it one way or another.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] top gear stripped?

2015-03-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I love Granny, but I fear her experience with the motors was limited 
only to her accepting the chauffeur into the family!


--R



On 3/10/15 6:23 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
So, when the producer said  The show's executive producer, Andy 
Wilman, described last year as an anus horribilis for the programme 
he was referring to Jeremy?


But the irritation was the charm, like how someone so irritating could 
be so... irritating.  It made it fun to watch him be subjected to 
unpleasant situations.


--R

As the Lady Dowager in Downton Abbey remarked, there is a point at 
which malice is no longer amusing, and you've just reached it.


Top Gear has it's good points, but being a complete jerk on the air 
(and racially offensive at that) goes too far.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
You can if you want, but it appears his ad is down. So either he is really a 
mommas boy and she told him he can't sell it for whatever reason so he took the 
ad down or he sold it.

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 On Mar 10, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
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 You want me to call him and act like an interested party?
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 I texted him this morning and told him I was still thinking about it and 
 would come look at it again tomorrow. He now says his mother won't let him 
 sell it at all. I suspect he is a flake and had somebody offer more than we 
 agreed to and he has come up with this story. Oh well. 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

I texted him this morning and told him I was still thinking about it and would 
come look at it again tomorrow. He now says his mother won't let him sell it at 
all. I suspect he is a flake and had somebody offer more than we agreed to and 
he has come up with this story. Oh well. 


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 On Mar 10, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 SO spring for the extra $300 - YOU WON'T REGRET IT.
 
 On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Yea, it drives fine, suspension and steering feel good, shifts are perfect 
 if a little on the stiff side (good), has plenty of power, idles smooth and 
 does not shake from side to side like it has uneven compression from a bent 
 rod.
 
 
 On 3/10/2015 9:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 Have you done a test drive?
 
 On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 This thing has been bugging me big time.  I have wanted a
 last model year 126 diesel for many many years but they
 almost never come up for sale.  This one is pretty well
 documented service wise.  It still has a chance of bending
 rods I suppose but at 228K I think the big chance of that
 has already passed.  I for some reason think the head gasket
 was done which I believe is what the main cause of bent rods
 is in the first place.  We had a deal at $2500 and then he
 comes back and says he has to have $2800 just angers me.
 Maybe I am wrong, maybe I should just pony up the extra
 $300, I still think its probably decent deal but not as
 cheap as I would have liked especially since it will need
 tires, glow plugs, and rear muffler right off the bat.
 
 
 On 3/10/2015 8:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
 
 needs a good plasti dip paint job and some rims
 
 Yo you needs some twennyfos yo
 
 And isn't plasti dip that stuff you use to put rubbery
 handles on tools?
 
 --R
 
 
 
 On 3/9/15 7:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 
 We had a deal at 2500 and he backs out. I'm going to
 email him from a different email account and offer less
 
 turbo diesel mercedes 350sd
 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/4924501562.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior update

2015-03-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I don't think a 123 has a voltage regulator porcupine?  

I do think that removing and testing the fan motor is next.
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On March 10, 2015 5:48:51 PM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Try getting a used fan and swap it out. (Car-part.com  Should be $25 
or less)  Could be a bad porcupine also.   Max can tell you about 
testing the porcupine.  Basically, power and ground in, modulated 
power out.  should be full power on defrost.



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Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior update

2015-03-10 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The W123 has a resistor network up by the air filter housing somewhere  
I think (I'll check with my brother).  At least somewhere up front on  
the passenger side, as my brother had to fix his where the car got hit.


If the connections at the resistor network are bad, the fan will work  
intermetently at any speed by high, where it's bypassed.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You want me to call him and act like an interested party?

Dan


 On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 I texted him this morning and told him I was still thinking about it and 
 would come look at it again tomorrow. He now says his mother won't let him 
 sell it at all. I suspect he is a flake and had somebody offer more than we 
 agreed to and he has come up with this story. Oh well. 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Looks like he has listed the car

2015-03-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Retain Snook, sue the kid in small claims court.

Or get over it and find a different car to buy...
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Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior update

2015-03-10 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Good luck in getting the buttons to work properly. Currently I have to punch 
the button next to the defrost button to get the fan running, and then punch 
the middle or button on its right to get hot or cold. Spraying the buttons 
mechanisms with Deoxit improved the situation but I still have to go through 
the process of getting the fan running, and then punching the hot or cold 
button. I replaced all three control units with used units from Arizona, which 
didn't work at all until I resoldered the button unit. (The original unit had 
burnt up while driving; probably because I accidentally punched two buttons 
simultaneously). The Arizona units had the same defects.
I suspect that the problem might be in the pushbutton contacts or the 
mechanisms that engage one while disingaging another.
Gerry

G. M. Brown wrote:

 For anyone keeping track, I changed out the PBU with a spare I have and the 
 same thing occurs where the interior fan does not come on when the Hi-speed 
 fan and middle (lower) PBU button are depressed after the car is started but 
 the fan will start when the defrost button is depressed, so it looks like 
 I've gotta' look into the connection(s) to the fan itself.
 
 G. M. Brown
 Brevard, NC
 
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