[MBZ] Today's S420 Fun

2015-09-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
In an effort to address the remaining items on my list for the 94 S420, I 
started in this morning around 8:30.

First thing was to add a couple of resistors to the coolant temperature sensor 
for the auxiliary fans.  On the 95 and earlier W140 cars, there is a sensor on 
the top front of the M119 engine that provides the setpoint (100 C) for the 
turning on of the auxiliary fans.  I added two 2.2k ohm resistors in parallel 
to get the desired 1.1k ohm resistance to lower the setpoint to around 92C.  Of 
course the little plastic connector body pretty much disintegrated when I 
attempted to disassemble it.  Something for the “list ‘o’ parts” to my dealer 
parts guy tomorrow.

Next was the fuel filter.  I wasn’t looking forward to this, as I really hate 
working around gasoline, but….

This car has the dual fuel pump setup with the filter that uses compression and 
banjo bolt fittings.  Fortunately, everything was neat and clean with no 
corrosion present.  One of the clamp screws for holding the filter and pumps in 
place was worn out, but with a good phillips bit and an offset screwdriver I 
was able to get enough torque on it to break it loose.

Filter and fittings all came loose without much effort.  Go the caps form the 
new filter on the old one pretty quick, so the amount of gas that came out 
wasn’t bad, maybe half a cup or so. Got everything in place, tightened up and 
tested with no leaks.  Put the cover back on and done.

I did find something on the old filter that shocked me a bit when I saw it.  I 
didn’t notice this until after I had removed it and it was draining in the pan:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x86sl4b6oab7l2g/S420%20Filter.JPG?dl=0 


And now that the garage is cleared out and car work is pretty much done for the 
weekend, I’m going to tear into my floor jack, I think.  That’s after I start 
the spouse’s birthday cake baking….

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun

2015-09-07 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Boy this even beats  a Cathey morning. I am still fixin to go out & detail
the black trim on my CD.
On Sep 7, 2015 11:24 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> In an effort to address the remaining items on my list for the 94 S420, I
> started in this morning around 8:30.
>
> First thing was to add a couple of resistors to the coolant temperature
> sensor for the auxiliary fans.  On the 95 and earlier W140 cars, there is a
> sensor on the top front of the M119 engine that provides the setpoint (100
> C) for the turning on of the auxiliary fans.  I added two 2.2k ohm
> resistors in parallel to get the desired 1.1k ohm resistance to lower the
> setpoint to around 92C.  Of course the little plastic connector body pretty
> much disintegrated when I attempted to disassemble it.  Something for the
> “list ‘o’ parts” to my dealer parts guy tomorrow.
>
> Next was the fuel filter.  I wasn’t looking forward to this, as I really
> hate working around gasoline, but….
>
> This car has the dual fuel pump setup with the filter that uses
> compression and banjo bolt fittings.  Fortunately, everything was neat and
> clean with no corrosion present.  One of the clamp screws for holding the
> filter and pumps in place was worn out, but with a good phillips bit and an
> offset screwdriver I was able to get enough torque on it to break it loose.
>
> Filter and fittings all came loose without much effort.  Go the caps form
> the new filter on the old one pretty quick, so the amount of gas that came
> out wasn’t bad, maybe half a cup or so. Got everything in place, tightened
> up and tested with no leaks.  Put the cover back on and done.
>
> I did find something on the old filter that shocked me a bit when I saw
> it.  I didn’t notice this until after I had removed it and it was draining
> in the pan:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x86sl4b6oab7l2g/S420%20Filter.JPG?dl=0 <
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x86sl4b6oab7l2g/S420%20Filter.JPG?dl=0>
>
> And now that the garage is cleared out and car work is pretty much done
> for the weekend, I’m going to tear into my floor jack, I think.  That’s
> after I start the spouse’s birthday cake baking….
>
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun

2015-09-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It should work on your car, I believe.  Here’s a good reference:

http://www.k6jrf.com/MB_CTS.html 

Dan


> On Sep 7, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Intriguing! I hadn't considered such a modification for my '87 wagon, I was 
> focusing on finding a temperature switch with lower set-points. I did find 
> one that is  lower, I think it drops the aux fan engagement temperature to 
> 110 Celsius, but if I can bring that even lower with your idea, I shall.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun

2015-09-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
All I got done was to put together a shelving unit in the shop then unloaded a 
load of parts that were in the truck I loaded Saturday.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Boy this even beats  a Cathey morning. I am still fixin to go out & detail
> the black trim on my CD.
> On Sep 7, 2015 11:24 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> In an effort to address the remaining items on my list for the 94 S420, I
>> started in this morning around 8:30.
>> 
>> First thing was to add a couple of resistors to the coolant temperature
>> sensor for the auxiliary fans.  On the 95 and earlier W140 cars, there is a
>> sensor on the top front of the M119 engine that provides the setpoint (100
>> C) for the turning on of the auxiliary fans.  I added two 2.2k ohm
>> resistors in parallel to get the desired 1.1k ohm resistance to lower the
>> setpoint to around 92C.  Of course the little plastic connector body pretty
>> much disintegrated when I attempted to disassemble it.  Something for the
>> “list ‘o’ parts” to my dealer parts guy tomorrow.
>> 
>> Next was the fuel filter.  I wasn’t looking forward to this, as I really
>> hate working around gasoline, but….
>> 
>> This car has the dual fuel pump setup with the filter that uses
>> compression and banjo bolt fittings.  Fortunately, everything was neat and
>> clean with no corrosion present.  One of the clamp screws for holding the
>> filter and pumps in place was worn out, but with a good phillips bit and an
>> offset screwdriver I was able to get enough torque on it to break it loose.
>> 
>> Filter and fittings all came loose without much effort.  Go the caps form
>> the new filter on the old one pretty quick, so the amount of gas that came
>> out wasn’t bad, maybe half a cup or so. Got everything in place, tightened
>> up and tested with no leaks.  Put the cover back on and done.
>> 
>> I did find something on the old filter that shocked me a bit when I saw
>> it.  I didn’t notice this until after I had removed it and it was draining
>> in the pan:
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x86sl4b6oab7l2g/S420%20Filter.JPG?dl=0 <
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x86sl4b6oab7l2g/S420%20Filter.JPG?dl=0>
>> 
>> And now that the garage is cleared out and car work is pretty much done
>> for the weekend, I’m going to tear into my floor jack, I think.  That’s
>> after I start the spouse’s birthday cake baking….
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun

2015-09-07 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

You can reuse that

--R



On 9/7/15 11:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I did find something on the old filter that shocked me a bit when I saw it.  I 
didn’t notice this until after I had removed it and it was draining in the pan:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x86sl4b6oab7l2g/S420%20Filter.JPG?dl=0  




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Re: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun

2015-09-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Intriguing! I hadn't considered such a modification for my '87 wagon, I was 
focusing on finding a temperature switch with lower set-points. I did find one 
that is  lower, I think it drops the aux fan engagement temperature to 110 
Celsius, but if I can bring that even lower with your idea, I shall.


-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 7, 2015 11:23:48 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>In an effort to address the remaining items on my list for the 94 S420,
>I started in this morning around 8:30.
>
>First thing was to add a couple of resistors to the coolant temperature
>sensor for the auxiliary fans.  On the 95 and earlier W140 cars, there
>is a sensor on the top front of the M119 engine that provides the
>setpoint (100 C) for the turning on of the auxiliary fans.  I added two
>2.2k ohm resistors in parallel to get the desired 1.1k ohm resistance
>to lower the setpoint to around 92C.  

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Re: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun

2015-09-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
For what?

I will say that when I drained it I didn’t get any crud out of it.  I guess 
that’s good.

Dan

> On Sep 7, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You can reuse that
> 
> --R
> 


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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-07 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Impressive Fred, nevertheless. Maybe you can recite Shakespeare at the
ChowdahQ. Could be a new feature.
On Sep 6, 2015 11:19 PM, "Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Mea Culpa.I read Henry V when I was 17 and my memory ain't what it
> was.Thank you for the correction.
>
> Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
>
> > Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 16:03:52 -0500
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > CC: fmi...@gmail.com
> >
> > > Fred wrote:
> > >
> > > Henry V, at Agincourt, his rev-up-the-troops speech.
> > > Once more into the breach, dear friends, once more and fill
> > > up the gaps with our english dead. etc.
> >
> > That is a slight mis-quote. It is "Once more __unto__ the breach..."
> >
> >  Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
> >  Or close the wall up with our English dead.
> >  In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
> >  As modest stillness and humility:
> >  But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
> >  Then imitate the action of the tiger;
> >
> >
> > Henry V does say "into the breach" - but elsewhere.
> >
> >  For you shall read that my great-grandfather
> >  Never went with his forces into France
> >  But that the Scot on his unfurnish'd kingdom
> >  Came pouring, like the tide into a breach,
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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-07 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Dwight.Like. Is , or not to was, that is the ask?I could depopulate the park in 
0.03 microseconds flat.
Even the flies had tears in their eyes and the clocks going round the wrong way.
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:15:54 -0400
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> CC: dwight.gi...@gmail.com
> 
> Impressive Fred, nevertheless. Maybe you can recite Shakespeare at the
> ChowdahQ. Could be a new feature.
> On Sep 6, 2015 11:19 PM, "Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
> > Mea Culpa.I read Henry V when I was 17 and my memory ain't what it
> > was.Thank you for the correction.
  
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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-07 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes could be a draw.
On Sep 7, 2015 9:25 AM, "Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Dwight.Like. Is , or not to was, that is the ask?I could depopulate the
> park in 0.03 microseconds flat.
> Even the flies had tears in their eyes and the clocks going round the
> wrong way.
> Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
>
> > Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:15:54 -0400
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > CC: dwight.gi...@gmail.com
> >
> > Impressive Fred, nevertheless. Maybe you can recite Shakespeare at the
> > ChowdahQ. Could be a new feature.
> > On Sep 6, 2015 11:19 PM, "Fred Moir via Mercedes"  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Mea Culpa.I read Henry V when I was 17 and my memory ain't what it
> > > was.Thank you for the correction.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun

2015-09-07 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Putting  Martha to shame
On Sep 7, 2015 1:42 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Hey, I even slept in to 6:30 this morning.  Forgot to turn the alarm off
> for a weekday and it went off at the usual 5:10.
>
> Already rebuilt my floor jack, too - just getting ready to reassemble.
>
> Dan
>
> > On Sep 7, 2015, at 1:36 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > 'Got all that done and wrote about it before noon - WOW!  ATTABOY!
> 'Makin' the rest of us look or feel bad.   ;<)
> >
> > Wilton
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun

2015-09-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I don't see how a similar modification can be done for my car.

Perhaps I could re-purpose the antenna switch to provide manual control of the 
aux fan...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 7, 2015 12:00:13 PM EDT, Max Dillon  wrote:
>Intriguing! I hadn't considered such a modification for my '87 wagon, I
>was focusing on finding a temperature switch with lower set-points. I
>did find one that is  lower, I think it drops the aux fan engagement
>temperature to 110 Celsius, but if I can bring that even lower with
>your idea, I shall.
>
>
>-- 
>Max Dillon
>Charleston SC
>'87 300TD
>'95 E300
>
>On September 7, 2015 11:23:48 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>In an effort to address the remaining items on my list for the 94
>S420,
>>I started in this morning around 8:30.
>>
>>First thing was to add a couple of resistors to the coolant
>temperature
>>sensor for the auxiliary fans.  On the 95 and earlier W140 cars, there
>>is a sensor on the top front of the M119 engine that provides the
>>setpoint (100 C) for the turning on of the auxiliary fans.  I added
>two
>>2.2k ohm resistors in parallel to get the desired 1.1k ohm resistance
>>to lower the setpoint to around 92C.  
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Re: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun

2015-09-07 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Got all that done and wrote about it before noon - WOW!  ATTABOY!  'Makin' 
the rest of us look or feel bad.   ;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Okie Benz" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 11:23 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun


In an effort to address the remaining items on my list for the 94 S420, I 
started in this morning around 8:30.


First thing was to add a couple of resistors to the coolant temperature 
sensor for the auxiliary fans.  On the 95 and earlier W140 cars, there is 
a sensor on the top front of the M119 engine that provides the setpoint 
(100 C) for the turning on of the auxiliary fans.  I added two 2.2k ohm 
resistors in parallel to get the desired 1.1k ohm resistance to lower the 
setpoint to around 92C.  Of course the little plastic connector body 
pretty much disintegrated when I attempted to disassemble it.  Something 
for the “list ‘o’ parts” to my dealer parts guy tomorrow.


Next was the fuel filter.  I wasn’t looking forward to this, as I really 
hate working around gasoline, but….


This car has the dual fuel pump setup with the filter that uses 
compression and banjo bolt fittings.  Fortunately, everything was neat and 
clean with no corrosion present.  One of the clamp screws for holding the 
filter and pumps in place was worn out, but with a good phillips bit and 
an offset screwdriver I was able to get enough torque on it to break it 
loose.


Filter and fittings all came loose without much effort.  Go the caps form 
the new filter on the old one pretty quick, so the amount of gas that came 
out wasn’t bad, maybe half a cup or so. Got everything in place, tightened 
up and tested with no leaks.  Put the cover back on and done.


I did find something on the old filter that shocked me a bit when I saw 
it.  I didn’t notice this until after I had removed it and it was draining 
in the pan:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/x86sl4b6oab7l2g/S420%20Filter.JPG?dl=0 



And now that the garage is cleared out and car work is pretty much done 
for the weekend, I’m going to tear into my floor jack, I think.  That’s 
after I start the spouse’s birthday cake baking….


Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun

2015-09-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Hey, I even slept in to 6:30 this morning.  Forgot to turn the alarm off for a 
weekday and it went off at the usual 5:10.

Already rebuilt my floor jack, too - just getting ready to reassemble.

Dan

> On Sep 7, 2015, at 1:36 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 'Got all that done and wrote about it before noon - WOW!  ATTABOY!  'Makin' 
> the rest of us look or feel bad.   ;<)
> 
> Wilton
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun

2015-09-07 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Lemme check that driving time to Tampa again.  ;<)

Just did - 10 hours.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Okie Benz" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun


Hey, I even slept in to 6:30 this morning.  Forgot to turn the alarm off 
for a weekday and it went off at the usual 5:10.


Already rebuilt my floor jack, too - just getting ready to reassemble.

Dan

On Sep 7, 2015, at 1:36 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
wrote:


'Got all that done and wrote about it before noon - WOW!  ATTABOY! 
'Makin' the rest of us look or feel bad.   ;<)


Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
So, at last we now know the true identity of the Bard himself.

Tis non other than Archer..

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:09 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> King Barack the First
> A play by: William Shakespeare XXV
>
> Prince Curly:
> Hark, Kaleb! Do I hear the clatter of horses hooves?
>
> Sir Kaleb:
> Nay, sire, 'tis but the clatter of Lord Andrews diesel,
> riven from the bowels of the Ruhr by the fierce Germanii.
> He returns to the Great Dismal Swamp to do service for
> Evil King Barack.
>
> Prince Curly:
> A pox on Evil King Barack! My bravest knight, Sir Donald, will make short
> work of King Baracks minions whence cometh the election.
>
> Sir Rich:
> Ah, but King Baracks legions are many. The strange and formidable warriors
> of Californicus will march to his aid in numbers unknown, and gold from
> many distant lands will flow into his coffers.
>
> (To be continued...)
> 
>
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 13:24:58 +
> Fred Moir via Mercedes  wrote:
>
> > Dwight.Like. Is , or not to was, that is the ask?I could depopulate the
> park in 0.03 microseconds flat.
> > Even the flies had tears in their eyes and the clocks going round the
> wrong way.
> > Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:15:54 -0400
> > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
> > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > CC: dwight.gi...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > Impressive Fred, nevertheless. Maybe you can recite Shakespeare at the
> > > ChowdahQ. Could be a new feature.
> > > On Sep 6, 2015 11:19 PM, "Fred Moir via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mea Culpa.I read Henry V when I was 17 and my memory ain't what it
> > > > was.Thank you for the correction.
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Re: [MBZ] Why your junker ain't worth as much now

2015-09-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sounds like you would be singing Obama's praise if we had rampant
inflation...

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> Interesting explanation.
>
>
> http://www.rabin.com/meet/Blog/August-2015/Market-Watch-The-Scrap-Metal-Industry.aspx
>
> Scrap metal prices have always been a indicator of world economic health.
> Low scrap prices = depression on the way.  High scrap prices = boom coming.
>
> Scrap metals, rendered oils and protein, foods, pretroleum, pretty much
> all the commodities are at lows that were unthinkable a couple years ago in
> the 'bummer depression.
>
>
> As a practical comparison, 4 yrs ago, a 5-7 yr old dogde van was worth
> $8-10k from private sellers.  This week I saw 5-7 yr old dogde vans mostly
> around $5K from private sellers.
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Work

2015-09-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Please send however many sons you have up north to work on my wagons. I
could learn how to supervise.

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> ATTABOY!
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> Wilton
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> To: "Okie Benz" 
> Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 7:59 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Today's Work
>
>
>
> Oldest son’s 1998 S420 needed a right front caliper, as one of the pistons
>> had stuck in it.
>>
>> Replaced the caliper and did brakes across the front axle with oldest son
>> doing the work while I supervised (and assisted as necessary.)  Took all of
>> maybe 45 minutes.  This is the second time he’s done brakes on a car, so
>> he’s becoming proficient with it.  Showed him how to bleed brakes with a
>> MityVac and siphon jar, too.
>>
>> Tomorrow I plan on doing the fuel filter on the 94 S420, as I keep
>> forgetting about it when I have the car.  I may take a swipe at the close
>> assist system, as it’s a bit hinky.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

2015-09-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I guess I would be. All it does is raise the temperature at the base of the
seedling flats to about 80 degrees.
On Sep 8, 2015 12:12 AM, "OK Don via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Plug one into a Kill-a-watt and measure the current it uses. I think you'll
> be surprised.
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 10:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > There is no heat requirement.  I use low wattage (?) seedling heat pads
> > that draw almost no current.  Typically these:
> >
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-MT10006--19-1-2-Inch-Seedling/dp/B0001WV010/ref=sr_1_1/187-6656968-8374561?ie=UTF8=1441681761=8-1=seed+heat+pad
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If you want to go solar...I just did a solar install on the motor
> home. I
> > > put 2 100W panels on the roof, an MPPT controller (so I could wire the
> > > panels in series and have the wiring handle the higher voltage more
> > > efficiently) and 2 Group 27 deep cycle batteries wired in parallel.
> The
> > > system works great.  The MH already had a 1600W inverter which I use
> very
> > > little.
> > >
> > > Total cost for all components was about $750. I spent more on the
> panels
> > to
> > > get flexible ones that I could tape with 3M VHB tape to the curved
> > > fiberglass roof. Rigid panels would cost about $50-100 less IIRC.
> > >
> > > The way to go is to figure out what your daily amperage usage would be.
> > > Battery capacity should be at least twice that amount, and solar input
> > > should obviously be enough to exceed usage.
> > >
> > > I agree with others that the heat requirement likely would overwhelm
> the
> > > capabilities of a solar system.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Andrew
> > > Strasfogel via Mercedes
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:11 AM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
> > > Subject: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application
> > >
> > > I would like to electrify my shed in the back 40 in order to provide 1)
> > > simple overhead lighting and 2) a 110V outlet for grow mats under my
> > > seedlings next spring.
> > >
> > > I might also want to recharge batteries for a B trimmer, although
> this
> > is
> > > a lesser priority.
> > >
> > > There is a sunny spot where I could erect a solar panel, about 15' from
> > the
> > > edge of the building.
> > >
> > > Anybody out there work with practical solar applications?
> > >
> > > Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

2015-09-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
There is no heat requirement.  I use low wattage (?) seedling heat pads
that draw almost no current.  Typically these:
http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-MT10006--19-1-2-Inch-Seedling/dp/B0001WV010/ref=sr_1_1/187-6656968-8374561?ie=UTF8=1441681761=8-1=seed+heat+pad

On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If you want to go solar...I just did a solar install on the motor home. I
> put 2 100W panels on the roof, an MPPT controller (so I could wire the
> panels in series and have the wiring handle the higher voltage more
> efficiently) and 2 Group 27 deep cycle batteries wired in parallel.  The
> system works great.  The MH already had a 1600W inverter which I use very
> little.
>
> Total cost for all components was about $750. I spent more on the panels to
> get flexible ones that I could tape with 3M VHB tape to the curved
> fiberglass roof. Rigid panels would cost about $50-100 less IIRC.
>
> The way to go is to figure out what your daily amperage usage would be.
> Battery capacity should be at least twice that amount, and solar input
> should obviously be enough to exceed usage.
>
> I agree with others that the heat requirement likely would overwhelm the
> capabilities of a solar system.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:11 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
> Subject: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application
>
> I would like to electrify my shed in the back 40 in order to provide 1)
> simple overhead lighting and 2) a 110V outlet for grow mats under my
> seedlings next spring.
>
> I might also want to recharge batteries for a B trimmer, although this is
> a lesser priority.
>
> There is a sunny spot where I could erect a solar panel, about 15' from the
> edge of the building.
>
> Anybody out there work with practical solar applications?
>
> Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

2015-09-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Plug one into a Kill-a-watt and measure the current it uses. I think you'll
be surprised.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 10:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There is no heat requirement.  I use low wattage (?) seedling heat pads
> that draw almost no current.  Typically these:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-MT10006--19-1-2-Inch-Seedling/dp/B0001WV010/ref=sr_1_1/187-6656968-8374561?ie=UTF8=1441681761=8-1=seed+heat+pad
>
> On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > If you want to go solar...I just did a solar install on the motor home. I
> > put 2 100W panels on the roof, an MPPT controller (so I could wire the
> > panels in series and have the wiring handle the higher voltage more
> > efficiently) and 2 Group 27 deep cycle batteries wired in parallel.  The
> > system works great.  The MH already had a 1600W inverter which I use very
> > little.
> >
> > Total cost for all components was about $750. I spent more on the panels
> to
> > get flexible ones that I could tape with 3M VHB tape to the curved
> > fiberglass roof. Rigid panels would cost about $50-100 less IIRC.
> >
> > The way to go is to figure out what your daily amperage usage would be.
> > Battery capacity should be at least twice that amount, and solar input
> > should obviously be enough to exceed usage.
> >
> > I agree with others that the heat requirement likely would overwhelm the
> > capabilities of a solar system.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Andrew
> > Strasfogel via Mercedes
> > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:11 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
> > Subject: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application
> >
> > I would like to electrify my shed in the back 40 in order to provide 1)
> > simple overhead lighting and 2) a 110V outlet for grow mats under my
> > seedlings next spring.
> >
> > I might also want to recharge batteries for a B trimmer, although this
> is
> > a lesser priority.
> >
> > There is a sunny spot where I could erect a solar panel, about 15' from
> the
> > edge of the building.
> >
> > Anybody out there work with practical solar applications?
> >
> > Andrew
> > Gentleman farmer and rabbit torturer
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Re: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun

2015-09-07 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

> I would start earlier if it wasn't for everyone else being asleep and it 
> waking them up.
> Got the floor jack rebuilt. Replaced the seal on the ram from my HF $8 box of 
> O rings. Nice.
> The rapid rise feature still doesn't work. Not sure why, but there's a tool 
> forum that has a section on floor jacks with a guy who is really well versed 
> on them, so I'm going to ask him and see if he knows.
> Otherwise, it seems to work well and doesn't leak. Yea!
> Dan
...
Mine didn't work either until I greased the external parts of the quick rise 
mechanism. Seemed to be a lot of friction from poorly machined parts.
It has worked well ever since.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] 'ello?

2015-09-07 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
King Barack the First
A play by: William Shakespeare XXV

Prince Curly:
Hark, Kaleb! Do I hear the clatter of horses hooves?

Sir Kaleb:
Nay, sire, 'tis but the clatter of Lord Andrews diesel,
riven from the bowels of the Ruhr by the fierce Germanii.
He returns to the Great Dismal Swamp to do service for
Evil King Barack.

Prince Curly:
A pox on Evil King Barack! My bravest knight, Sir Donald, will make short work 
of King Baracks minions whence cometh the election.

Sir Rich:
Ah, but King Baracks legions are many. The strange and formidable warriors of 
Californicus will march to his aid in numbers unknown, and gold from many 
distant lands will flow into his coffers.

(To be continued...) 


On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 13:24:58 +
Fred Moir via Mercedes  wrote:

> Dwight.Like. Is , or not to was, that is the ask?I could depopulate the park 
> in 0.03 microseconds flat.
> Even the flies had tears in their eyes and the clocks going round the wrong 
> way.
> Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
> 
> > Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 09:15:54 -0400
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'ello?
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > CC: dwight.gi...@gmail.com
> > 
> > Impressive Fred, nevertheless. Maybe you can recite Shakespeare at the
> > ChowdahQ. Could be a new feature.
> > On Sep 6, 2015 11:19 PM, "Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Mea Culpa.I read Henry V when I was 17 and my memory ain't what it
> > > was.Thank you for the correction.
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Re: [MBZ] Today's S420 Fun

2015-09-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would start earlier if it wasn't for everyone else being asleep and it waking 
them up.

Got the floor jack rebuilt. Replaced the seal on the ram from my HF $8 box of O 
rings. Nice.

The rapid rise feature still doesn't work. Not sure why, but there's a tool 
forum that has a section on floor jacks with a guy who is really well versed on 
them, so I'm going to ask him and see if he knows.

Otherwise, it seems to work well and doesn't leak. Yea!

Dan

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> On Sep 7, 2015, at 1:46 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Lemme check that driving time to Tampa again.  ;<)
> 
> Just did - 10 hours.
> 
> Wilton
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