Re: [MBZ] Two things wrong

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 15, 2015 at 8:53 AM Curly McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> FIrst thing wrong:  In yurp, the barbarians are not at the gate, they 
> have been invited inside the gate to wreak havoc as they see fit.

Or, as Mark Stein might say:
The Barbarians Are Inside, And There Are No Gates

http://www.steynonline.com/7293/the-barbarians-are-inside-and-there-are-no-gates

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[MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Grndson said few minutes ago, "Shops, groc. stores, etc., are open - most 
stuff, 'cept cinemas, Eiffel Tower, etc., open.  'went to Starbucks this 
morning - only 'bout half usual # tables filled.  'Going to groc. store in few 
minutes.  'Pantry is only lightly stocked.  We don't keep much on hand.  'Sad 
time, but we're OK."

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Meant to say, "lived it."

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "WILTON" 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...


Precious - probably even more so when you've lived for several years (13 in
my case - well, 15½ if ya count my B-47 crew chief time) intimately involved
with all of that "stuff."

BTW, wing commander can't issue "go code."

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...


General "Buck" Turgidson 
: General Ripper 
called Strategic Air Command headquarters shortly after he issued the go 
code. I have a portion of the transcript of that conversation if you'd 
like me to to read it.


President Merkin Muffley 
: Read it!


General "Buck" Turgidson 
: Ahem... The Duty 
Officer asked General Ripper to confirm the fact that he *had* issued the 
go code, and he said, uh, "Yes gentlemen, they are on their way in, and no 
one can bring them back. For the sake of our country, and our way of life, 
I suggest you get the rest of SAC in after them. Otherwise, we will be 
totally destroyed by Red retaliation. Uh, my boys will give you the best 
kind of start, 1400 megatons worth, and you sure as hell won't stop them 
now, uhuh. Uh, so let's get going, there's no other choice. God willing, 
we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, 
through the purity and essence of our natural... fluids. God bless you 
all" and he hung up.


General "Buck" Turgidson 
: Uh, we're, still 
trying to figure out the meaning of that last phrase, sir.


President Merkin Muffley 
: There's nothing to 
figure out, General Turgidson. This man is obviously a psychotic.


General "Buck" Turgidson 
: We-he-ell, uh, I'd 
like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts 
are in.


President Merkin Muffley 
: General Turgidson! 
When you instituted the human reliability tests, you *assured* me there 
was *no* possibility of such a thing *ever* occurring!


General "Buck" Turgidson 
: Well, I, uh, don't 
think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because of a single 
slip-up, sir.





On Nov 14, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Mt favorite quote from Strangelove was:  President Merkin Muffley: 
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room



-Original Message-
From:  WILTON via Mercedes

Yes, I always get a big laugh from the "big board" comment, too.  ...




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[MBZ] Two things wrong

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

An irishman's view of paree

http://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/others/An-Irishman-in-Paris-The-Barbarians-are-at-the-Gate.html?utm_source=Sailthru_medium=email_campaign=The%20Best%20of%20IC%20-%20Draw%20November%2015_term=The%20Best%20of%20IC%20-%20Draw%20Sept-Oct%202015

FIrst thing wrong:  In yurp, the barbarians are not at the gate, they 
have been invited inside the gate to wreak havoc as they see fit. 
Unfortunately, our dear leader wants the same thing here.  It is up 
to us to stop the invasion.


Second thing wrong:  He asserts there were no W MD in sad dam land. 
There were.  There were large stores of gas, and it had been used on 
the K urds.  There was yellow cake, and there was a nuclear program. 
The son of an acquaintance was in charge of removing the yellow cake. 
It was shipped to Canada.  GW wanted to keep it quiet, so they either 
went along with the no W MD story, or they invented and propagated 
that story line.


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Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Precious - probably even more so when you've lived for several years (13 in 
my case - well, 15½ if ya count my B-47 crew chief time) intimately involved 
with all of that "stuff."


BTW, wing commander can't issue "go code."

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wilton - I gotta ask...


General "Buck" Turgidson 
: General Ripper 
called Strategic Air Command headquarters shortly after he issued the go 
code. I have a portion of the transcript of that conversation if you'd 
like me to to read it.


President Merkin Muffley 
: Read it!


General "Buck" Turgidson 
: Ahem... The Duty 
Officer asked General Ripper to confirm the fact that he *had* issued the 
go code, and he said, uh, "Yes gentlemen, they are on their way in, and no 
one can bring them back. For the sake of our country, and our way of life, 
I suggest you get the rest of SAC in after them. Otherwise, we will be 
totally destroyed by Red retaliation. Uh, my boys will give you the best 
kind of start, 1400 megatons worth, and you sure as hell won't stop them 
now, uhuh. Uh, so let's get going, there's no other choice. God willing, 
we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, 
through the purity and essence of our natural... fluids. God bless you 
all" and he hung up.


General "Buck" Turgidson 
: Uh, we're, still 
trying to figure out the meaning of that last phrase, sir.


President Merkin Muffley 
: There's nothing to 
figure out, General Turgidson. This man is obviously a psychotic.


General "Buck" Turgidson 
: We-he-ell, uh, I'd 
like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts 
are in.


President Merkin Muffley 
: General Turgidson! 
When you instituted the human reliability tests, you *assured* me there 
was *no* possibility of such a thing *ever* occurring!


General "Buck" Turgidson 
: Well, I, uh, don't 
think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because of a single 
slip-up, sir.





On Nov 14, 2015, at 9:32 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Mt favorite quote from Strangelove was:  President Merkin Muffley: 
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room



-Original Message-
From:  WILTON via Mercedes

Yes, I always get a big laugh from the "big board" comment, too.  ...




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Re: [MBZ] A project car

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

no tittle

--R


That's fair.  There's no car there either!

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Re: [MBZ] A project car

[G Mann via Mercedes]

No title
Serious terminal rust issues.

Unless this is the last one on the planet, and so rare it is worth being
preserved at all costs, I would not touch this car.

I have in the past restored cars with that much rust visible. It requires
the hand crafting of the destroyed and missing sheet metal parts. 4,000 man
hours later the body work was structurally and visually acceptable. Then
came the frame work which also had the same level of rust damage. The
customer had very deep pockets, and needed them.

Even though the car looked correct, drove correctly, I always felt I
cheated the man because the car should have been scrapped for parts and the
project done with a better car to start with. I knew all the compromises
that had to be made to make it "look right"..

So, thumbs down. besides.. "The doesn't blow cold" ;))

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> no tittle
>
> --R
>
> On 11/14/15 11:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-Coupe-/201467105142?forcerrptr=true=item2ee8600f76:g:PzAAAOSwwbdWMCAG=201467105142
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press 
reporting vs. "ground truth"?  
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 15, 2015 11:13:35 AM EST, WILTON via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Grndson said few minutes ago, "Shops, groc. stores, etc., are open -
>most stuff, 'cept cinemas, Eiffel Tower, etc., open.  'went to
>Starbucks this morning - only 'bout half usual # tables filled.  'Going
>to groc. store in few minutes.  'Pantry is only lightly stocked.  We
>don't keep much on hand.  'Sad time, but we're OK."
>
>Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Hillary! and US Embassy tweeted Fri morning "This evening's spontaneous 
demonstrations by some guys out walking around a result of cultural 
insensitivity to followers of the Prophet (PBUH) by French officials who 
are allowing a retrospective marathon of Jerry Lewis films to be 
presented at a cinema in Paris"


What difference, at this point, does it make?

--R (/s off)

On 11/15/15 1:20 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
'Just axed 'im.  Re. incident few min ago, he says, "Likely false 
alarm, but I can definitely hear the panic outside."


He's 2 blocks due N of Seine; 'bout 4 to 5 blocks due N of Notre Dame.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Max Dillon" 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris


Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American 
press reporting vs. "ground truth"?

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 15, 2015 11:13:35 AM EST, WILTON via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Grndson said few minutes ago, "Shops, groc. stores, etc., are open -
most stuff, 'cept cinemas, Eiffel Tower, etc., open.  'went to
Starbucks this morning - only 'bout half usual # tables filled.  'Going
to groc. store in few minutes.  'Pantry is only lightly stocked.  We
don't keep much on hand.  'Sad time, but we're OK."

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Link?  Otherwise, I call shenanigans.  Not even THEY are that blatant.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hillary! and US Embassy tweeted Fri morning "This evening's spontaneous
> demonstrations by some guys out walking around a result of cultural
> insensitivity to followers of the Prophet (PBUH) by French officials who
> are allowing a retrospective marathon of Jerry Lewis films to be presented
> at a cinema in Paris"
>
> What difference, at this point, does it make?
>
> --R (/s off)
>
>
> On 11/15/15 1:20 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> 'Just axed 'im.  Re. incident few min ago, he says, "Likely false alarm,
>> but I can definitely hear the panic outside."
>>
>> He's 2 blocks due N of Seine; 'bout 4 to 5 blocks due N of Notre Dame.
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Cc: "Max Dillon" 
>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press
>>> reporting vs. "ground truth"?
>>> --
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> '87 300TD
>>> '95 E300
>>>
>>> On November 15, 2015 11:13:35 AM EST, WILTON via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 Grndson said few minutes ago, "Shops, groc. stores, etc., are open -
 most stuff, 'cept cinemas, Eiffel Tower, etc., open.  'went to
 Starbucks this morning - only 'bout half usual # tables filled.  'Going
 to groc. store in few minutes.  'Pantry is only lightly stocked.  We
 don't keep much on hand.  'Sad time, but we're OK."

 Wilton
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[MBZ] OT: Solar performance - long

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Since we had the talk some time ago about Andrew possibly installing some solar 
power I thought I'd bring you up to date on the solar installation at camp.As a 
reminder Dad installed 1x 100w solar panel, charge controller, 2x 35ah 12v 
batteries and an 800w inverter.
The system powers the range hood which sports a 9w CF bulb and a fan which 
together pull around 80w running on high and a ceiling fan which pulls about 
40w on its one setting. This is measured at the output of the inverter with a 
kill-a-watt meter. When its on the inverter itself draws .5a at 12v or about 6w 
measured with a multimeter. The inverter also has 2 USB outputs, each draws 
.25a at 12v for another 6w when in use. The inverter draws a constant .01a when 
idling with the USB ports hot but not in use.

Most recently we had 4 guys for 9 days. Thats 4 cell phones and 4 tablets plus 
the wifi hot spot. Something was on the USB ports all the time, in fact I 
charged my tablet and phone in my truck because I couldn't get any time inside 
for it. So I figure we were using 6w 24 hours a day for 144w. The range hood 
light/fan combo ran every morning for about half an hour and the light ran 
every evening for about 2 hours, we didn't use the ceiling fan. That'd be 40w 
in the morning and 18 in the afternoon giving us a grand total of 202wh or 
around 16ah at 12v.
The 100w panel is angled for best capture in mid August at which time it should 
make (reliably) 400wh a day. Sadly this time of the year I'd be satisfied if we 
were making 1/4 that. We don't have good input monitoring (yet) so lets say 
100wh which is possibly generous. Certainly we did start making power about the 
time the sun came up with the panel showing constant 12v about half an hour 
later and it continued at that rate until the sun was well over the horizon. So 
we were using about twice our production. Actually thats true for the sunny 
days, I suspect on the cloudy and rainy days we were probably making more like 
50wh... 
Some of this will be improved by taking down some small trees to the east of 
the camp that shade the panel early in the day. There are other much larger 
trees which could be removed for more improvement but won't for ascetic 
reasons. 

Anyway the system behaved as expected, with an 8ah a day deficit voltage sagged 
badly so every other day I'd run the charger for awhile to prop it up which was 
a PITA.
The extended plan for next year is to add 2x 100w panels and 2x 35ah batteries 
though I may push for a third panel instead of the batteries to help during the 
cloudy times.
Other add on plans:2x 12v ports, we need more USB capacityammeter for incoming 
(ie solar) monitoring. I intend to put this in a box with the 12v portsbattery 
voltage monitoring - we currently have an input voltage monitor but not on the 
batteries, though in practice the batteries lag the panel by about .2v just 
about all the time.
Pics:http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134650599_HDR_zpsvaomkrrj.jpg
 the 
panelhttp://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134636443_HDR_zpshlloz7hl.jpg
 batteries, with the backup charger, note that this is actually on the outside 
of the camp, directly under the panel and just visible in that 
shot.http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134715244_zpszvgug8rj.jpg
 the brains of the operation, right to left, the inverter with the kill-a-watt 
hanging off it feeding the camp through the orange cord is connected to the 
charge controller which is connected to the batteries (middle posts) and to the 
solar (left side posts) also shown is the solar voltage and under that the 
shunt thats supposed to allow us to see solar amperage but that strangely only 
seems to work at voltages below 12v.
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Just saw this article on the w123 TD wagons

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

To paraphrase McArthur: They never die, they just rust away.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Dimitri via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 11:27 PM
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> Subject: [MBZ] Just saw this article on the w123 TD wagons
> 
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-12/the-vintage-
> mercedes-station-wagon-is-the-car-that-will-never-die
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Re: [MBZ] Stock up sale

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Not in Canada I don't. In the US you order from Midway USA, they have 
everything. Not the cheapest but an easy one stop shop. Super nice to deal with 
too.I suspect they know what they can and can not ship north of the border.

-Curt

  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Randy Bennell  
 Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stock up sale
   
On 12/11/2015 7:08 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
> Sad to see Kesselring's go. They were a great source for everything that
> shoots and all sorts of handloading supplies. They talked me into a gently
> used Rem 541T that shoots 1/2 MOA with discount store .22s when I was ready
> to spend more for a poorer quality 22.
>
> Another victim of BATFE overreach.
>
> Greg
>
>

Got any good recommendations of where to buy handloading supplies?
My younger son is looking to try his hand at loading his own as he has 
acquired a nice older rifle that has an uncommon cartridge.
It is a Browning and I am sorry I do not recall the calibre.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar performance - long

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Nice montage.  Where did you say the camp was?

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Since we had the talk some time ago about Andrew possibly installing some
> solar power I thought I'd bring you up to date on the solar installation at
> camp.As a reminder Dad installed 1x 100w solar panel, charge controller, 2x
> 35ah 12v batteries and an 800w inverter.
> The system powers the range hood which sports a 9w CF bulb and a fan which
> together pull around 80w running on high and a ceiling fan which pulls
> about 40w on its one setting. This is measured at the output of the
> inverter with a kill-a-watt meter. When its on the inverter itself draws
> .5a at 12v or about 6w measured with a multimeter. The inverter also has 2
> USB outputs, each draws .25a at 12v for another 6w when in use. The
> inverter draws a constant .01a when idling with the USB ports hot but not
> in use.
>
> Most recently we had 4 guys for 9 days. Thats 4 cell phones and 4 tablets
> plus the wifi hot spot. Something was on the USB ports all the time, in
> fact I charged my tablet and phone in my truck because I couldn't get any
> time inside for it. So I figure we were using 6w 24 hours a day for 144w.
> The range hood light/fan combo ran every morning for about half an hour and
> the light ran every evening for about 2 hours, we didn't use the ceiling
> fan. That'd be 40w in the morning and 18 in the afternoon giving us a grand
> total of 202wh or around 16ah at 12v.
> The 100w panel is angled for best capture in mid August at which time it
> should make (reliably) 400wh a day. Sadly this time of the year I'd be
> satisfied if we were making 1/4 that. We don't have good input monitoring
> (yet) so lets say 100wh which is possibly generous. Certainly we did start
> making power about the time the sun came up with the panel showing constant
> 12v about half an hour later and it continued at that rate until the sun
> was well over the horizon. So we were using about twice our production.
> Actually thats true for the sunny days, I suspect on the cloudy and rainy
> days we were probably making more like 50wh...
> Some of this will be improved by taking down some small trees to the east
> of the camp that shade the panel early in the day. There are other much
> larger trees which could be removed for more improvement but won't for
> ascetic reasons.
>
> Anyway the system behaved as expected, with an 8ah a day deficit voltage
> sagged badly so every other day I'd run the charger for awhile to prop it
> up which was a PITA.
> The extended plan for next year is to add 2x 100w panels and 2x 35ah
> batteries though I may push for a third panel instead of the batteries to
> help during the cloudy times.
> Other add on plans:2x 12v ports, we need more USB capacityammeter for
> incoming (ie solar) monitoring. I intend to put this in a box with the 12v
> portsbattery voltage monitoring - we currently have an input voltage
> monitor but not on the batteries, though in practice the batteries lag the
> panel by about .2v just about all the time.
> Pics:
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134650599_HDR_zpsvaomkrrj.jpg
> the panelhttp://
> i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134636443_HDR_zpshlloz7hl.jpg
> batteries, with the backup charger, note that this is actually on the
> outside of the camp, directly under the panel and just visible in that shot.
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134715244_zpszvgug8rj.jpg
> the brains of the operation, right to left, the inverter with the
> kill-a-watt hanging off it feeding the camp through the orange cord is
> connected to the charge controller which is connected to the batteries
> (middle posts) and to the solar (left side posts) also shown is the solar
> voltage and under that the shunt thats supposed to allow us to see solar
> amperage but that strangely only seems to work at voltages below 12v.
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[MBZ] an interesting euro 126 that is the complete opposite of green on green

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-/252172212851?forcerrptr=true=item3ab6a29a73:g:WpYAAOSwcdBWSOjS=252172212851 



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[MBZ] A Mac question

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Mac ?

I am trying to upgrade the old macbook 1.1 from 10.5 to 10.6 so I can 
get a web browser that works.


Thanks to Dan, I have the disk image for the 10.6 install.  It won't 
boot from the computer; says I have to put it on a disk.  It won't 
work on a normal dvd, but wants a dual layer DVD+ -.  There are no 
dual layer blank dvds to be bought in town, unless the univ bookstore 
has some tomorrow.  None at floormart or at worstbuy.  Staples packed 
up the tent and left.


I bought a WD "my passport" external drive, and first used it to back 
up the machine HD.  After the "must burn to disk" warning, i thought 
I could put the install file on the external drive and boot from 
that.  No dice!  It seems that the WD external drives made explicitly 
for Mac won't boot from a mac.  So, what is the mac equivalent of the 
MBR from a winders drive?


The next option seems to be a 16 GB USB stick.  I've found scripts to 
use to make a USB stick bootable using terminal.  At this point, and 
with 10 dvd DL costing $20-30, it seems like the USB stick may be the 
shortest route to success.


Anyone BTDT?  What are your thoughts, Mac guys?  Thanks

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Re: [MBZ] an interesting euro 126 that is the complete opposite of green on green

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-/252172212851?forcerrptr=true=item3ab6a29a73:g:WpYAAOSwcdBWSOjS=252172212851


not quite the opposite.  The opposing color to green is orange.

However, the 280SE Euro is droolworthy.  I bought a wrecked 280SE 
euro with the thought of putting the M110 engine in the 220Sb.


My second SDL was burgundy/burgundy leather and that was nice 
looking.  I only took it to one show, so I sold it.


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Re: [MBZ] an interesting euro 126 that is the complete opposite of green on green

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Closer, but technically, the opposite of green is magenta. Burgundy will do
however, since it's NOT green.
I'm always suspicious of a 200K engine compartment that is that clean - and
what's with the matching cam end covers? I think major work has been done,
beyond the claimed maintenance. However, if done correctly, that would be
one cool car . . .

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-/252172212851?forcerrptr=true=item3ab6a29a73:g:WpYAAOSwcdBWSOjS=252172212851
>>
>
> not quite the opposite.  The opposing color to green is orange.
>
> However, the 280SE Euro is droolworthy.  I bought a wrecked 280SE euro
> with the thought of putting the M110 engine in the 220Sb.
>
> My second SDL was burgundy/burgundy leather and that was nice looking.  I
> only took it to one show, so I sold it.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Just saw this article on the w123 TD wagons

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

"Selling for around $20,000."  You can have mine for $17.500 and the AC
REALLY blows ICE COLD

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> To paraphrase McArthur: They never die, they just rust away.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Dimitri via Mercedes
> > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 11:27 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Cc: Dimitri 
> > Subject: [MBZ] Just saw this article on the w123 TD wagons
> >
> > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-12/the-vintage-
> > mercedes-station-wagon-is-the-car-that-will-never-die
> >
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Re: [MBZ] A Mac question

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Hmm, that's very interesting, as I have 10.6 on a factory DVD and it's  
single layer, the drive in my early Intel books is not dual layer.


how big is the image?  If it will fit on a single layer DVD, try using  
Disk Utility to burn it.  I usually use DragonBurn, it's much faster  
and less cranky though.




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Re: [MBZ] A Mac question

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Thanks Peter.  Good thoughts, as usual!  It said it is 6.4Gb.  I 
tried several times using  normal dvds.   My MBPro 8.1 will burn DL, 
but I didn't stop to check the macbook 1.1 combo drive.  If it won't 
read DL, then the USB may be the only option.


I think I'll try buying a new USB Stick tomorrow.

There is a possibility of using "boot from remote drive" but I have 
not researched the requirements for doing so.


Hmm, that's very interesting, as I have 10.6 on a factory DVD and 
it's single layer, the drive in my early Intel books is not dual 
layer.


how big is the image?  If it will fit on a single layer DVD, try 
using Disk Utility to burn it.  I usually use DragonBurn, it's much 
faster and less cranky though.




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Re: [MBZ] A Mac question

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The universal disk is bigger than the specifics, the 10.6 disk is DL.

Macs won't boot from a HD unless it's got the OS 'installed' on it.
I think it was on purpose.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar performance - long

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Very cool - sounds like you are about to get it figured out and optimized
for your needs. Get any deer?

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Since we had the talk some time ago about Andrew possibly installing some
> solar power I thought I'd bring you up to date on the solar installation at
> camp.As a reminder Dad installed 1x 100w solar panel, charge controller, 2x
> 35ah 12v batteries and an 800w inverter.
> The system powers the range hood which sports a 9w CF bulb and a fan which
> together pull around 80w running on high and a ceiling fan which pulls
> about 40w on its one setting. This is measured at the output of the
> inverter with a kill-a-watt meter. When its on the inverter itself draws
> .5a at 12v or about 6w measured with a multimeter. The inverter also has 2
> USB outputs, each draws .25a at 12v for another 6w when in use. The
> inverter draws a constant .01a when idling with the USB ports hot but not
> in use.
>
> Most recently we had 4 guys for 9 days. Thats 4 cell phones and 4 tablets
> plus the wifi hot spot. Something was on the USB ports all the time, in
> fact I charged my tablet and phone in my truck because I couldn't get any
> time inside for it. So I figure we were using 6w 24 hours a day for 144w.
> The range hood light/fan combo ran every morning for about half an hour and
> the light ran every evening for about 2 hours, we didn't use the ceiling
> fan. That'd be 40w in the morning and 18 in the afternoon giving us a grand
> total of 202wh or around 16ah at 12v.
> The 100w panel is angled for best capture in mid August at which time it
> should make (reliably) 400wh a day. Sadly this time of the year I'd be
> satisfied if we were making 1/4 that. We don't have good input monitoring
> (yet) so lets say 100wh which is possibly generous. Certainly we did start
> making power about the time the sun came up with the panel showing constant
> 12v about half an hour later and it continued at that rate until the sun
> was well over the horizon. So we were using about twice our production.
> Actually thats true for the sunny days, I suspect on the cloudy and rainy
> days we were probably making more like 50wh...
> Some of this will be improved by taking down some small trees to the east
> of the camp that shade the panel early in the day. There are other much
> larger trees which could be removed for more improvement but won't for
> ascetic reasons.
>
> Anyway the system behaved as expected, with an 8ah a day deficit voltage
> sagged badly so every other day I'd run the charger for awhile to prop it
> up which was a PITA.
> The extended plan for next year is to add 2x 100w panels and 2x 35ah
> batteries though I may push for a third panel instead of the batteries to
> help during the cloudy times.
> Other add on plans:2x 12v ports, we need more USB capacityammeter for
> incoming (ie solar) monitoring. I intend to put this in a box with the 12v
> portsbattery voltage monitoring - we currently have an input voltage
> monitor but not on the batteries, though in practice the batteries lag the
> panel by about .2v just about all the time.
> Pics:
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134650599_HDR_zpsvaomkrrj.jpg
> the panelhttp://
> i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134636443_HDR_zpshlloz7hl.jpg
> batteries, with the backup charger, note that this is actually on the
> outside of the camp, directly under the panel and just visible in that shot.
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Camp/IMG_20151113_134715244_zpszvgug8rj.jpg
> the brains of the operation, right to left, the inverter with the
> kill-a-watt hanging off it feeding the camp through the orange cord is
> connected to the charge controller which is connected to the batteries
> (middle posts) and to the solar (left side posts) also shown is the solar
> voltage and under that the shunt thats supposed to allow us to see solar
> amperage but that strangely only seems to work at voltages below 12v.
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Just axed 'im.  Re. incident few min ago, he says, "Likely false alarm, but 
I can definitely hear the panic outside."


He's 2 blocks due N of Seine; 'bout 4 to 5 blocks due N of Notre Dame.

Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - note from Paris


Thanks for the updates.  Does he have time to comment on American press 
reporting vs. "ground truth"?

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 15, 2015 11:13:35 AM EST, WILTON via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Grndson said few minutes ago, "Shops, groc. stores, etc., are open -
most stuff, 'cept cinemas, Eiffel Tower, etc., open.  'went to
Starbucks this morning - only 'bout half usual # tables filled.  'Going
to groc. store in few minutes.  'Pantry is only lightly stocked.  We
don't keep much on hand.  'Sad time, but we're OK."

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Stock up sale

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Is anyone on the list planning to go to this sale?



Sad to see Kesselring's go. They were a great source for everything that
shoots and all sorts of handloading supplies. They talked me into a gently
used Rem 541T that shoots 1/2 MOA with discount store .22s when I was ready
to spend more for a poorer quality 22.

Another victim of BATFE overreach.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Stock up sale

http://murphyauction.com/Auction/Details/4771

For the folks who need home protection or feel the need to water the tree of
liberty



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