Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Glow Plug Relay

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yes my car has three connections as you describe. Big plug to glow plug, cable 
to battery and small plug. Small plug corresponds to 5 pins on relay. One 
connection on the plug is live only when ignition is turned on so I presume 
that is the ignition on. 

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> On May 13, 2023, at 12:37 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
> Used to be there were THREE connections to the relay:
> A big plug that went to the glow plugs, a big cable that
> went to the battery, and a small plug that was command
> and control.  The first two are Duh!, but they all need to
> be working correctly, or you don't get a good start.
> 
> IIRC there was an ignition-on signal, a start signal, and
> a dash lamp signal.  Ignition-on started the GP timer,
> start-release stopped the glow plugs, and the light was
> the light.
> 
> Not sure exactly what your car has.  Check the car schematic.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] I bought that rod bender that was the topic of conversation 10 years ago on BW and PP

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Bent rods show up in about a minute of run time, they NEVER bend straight over. 
 The piston cocks in the bore and the rings eat the bore out almost instantly.

You’d know if they were bent.

Peter

> On May 13, 2023, at 3:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had to come to KC to pickup a hard top I found for the SL so went ahead and 
> looked at it. Kid was asking $2800 for it. I paid him $1200 for it. Main 
> reason I was interested was due to it being the super rare Bornite color. 
> Anyway, according to the BW and PP posts this car has had a crap ton of work 
> done to it by a PO in Houston. Car has be beat on a little bit, or maybe 
> quite a bit but I think it’s got potential. It will need a dented in RF 
> fender replaced. The hood needs to be repainted. It also has some small rust 
> bubbles around the rear window seal on the passenger side. We know there 
> could be a lot more hiding under the seal. Also, in the corner on the drivers 
> side in the trunk drain channel, it’s got a bunch of silicone gooped in 
> there. I would suspect a rust hole maybe? Per carfax it was in WI when new 
> for a few years. Aside from the spots mentioned above it’s rust free. 
> Interior is actually in pretty good shape. Odo does not work. It starts and 
> runs great. Not much blowby, transmission shifts good, suspension feels good. 
> In the BW post it that guy was messing the piston protrusion properly it 
> would indicate it has bent rods. Just from casual observing it running it 
> does not show any signs of that at all so maybe he was not measuring 
> correctly. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I'm Half Tempted...

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Hell yeah. Take your scanner and see what the tranny is complaining about  Beat 
it down some, could be a good flip or driver. 

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> …to go check this out:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1475535956519314/
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Re: [MBZ] I'm Half Tempted...

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Probably needs a conductor plate. 

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Re: [MBZ] I bought that rod bender that was the topic of conversation 10 years ago on BW and PP

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Looks fairly decent 

--FT
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> On May 13, 2023, at 4:34 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had to come to KC to pickup a hard top I found for the SL so went ahead 
> and looked at it. Kid was asking $2800 for it. I paid him $1200 for it. Main 
> reason I was interested was due to it being the super rare Bornite color. 
> Anyway, according to the BW and PP posts this car has had a crap ton of work 
> done to it by a PO in Houston. Car has be beat on a little bit, or maybe 
> quite a bit but I think it’s got potential. It will need a dented in RF 
> fender replaced. The hood needs to be repainted. It also has some small rust 
> bubbles around the rear window seal on the passenger side. We know there 
> could be a lot more hiding under the seal. Also, in the corner on the drivers 
> side in the trunk drain channel, it’s got a bunch of silicone gooped in 
> there. I would suspect a rust hole maybe? Per carfax it was in WI when new 
> for a few years. Aside from the spots mentioned above it’s rust free. 
> Interior is actually in pretty good shape. Odo does not work. It starts and 
> runs great. Not much blowby, transmission shifts good, suspension feels good. 
> In the BW post it that guy was messing the piston protrusion properly it 
> would indicate it has bent rods. Just from casual observing it running it 
> does not show any signs of that at all so maybe he was not measuring 
> correctly. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[MBZ] I'm Half Tempted...

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

…to go check this out:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1475535956519314/

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[MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/234408049235359/

-D

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Re: [MBZ] I bought that rod bender that was the topic of conversation 10 years ago on BW and PP

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

My guess would be that someone messed up and replaced the gears incorrectly 
when the originals broke, or if it’s an electronic speedo, the caps are all 
dried out and it’s drifted way out of spec.

-D

On May 13, 2023, at 4:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I am still stumped at the inaccurate speedometer issue in my '85 300SD.  
Reads/counts mph and miles driven about 10 percent too low.  Tire size is 
correct so must be something else.

As an incentive, the first list member to unravel this mystery will receive a 
complimentary jar of my artisinal jalapeno pepper jelly.

On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 4:41 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
Very common. Gears disintegrate or come loose from their shaft and just spin.

-D

> On May 13, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> I've noticed that odometers on most '85 - 87 300SD/L turbodiesels with
> electric speedometers need repairs to start counting the miles again.
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 4:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I had to come to KC to pickup a hard top I found for the SL so went ahead
>> and looked at it. Kid was asking $2800 for it. I paid him $1200 for it.
>> Main reason I was interested was due to it being the super rare Bornite
>> color. Anyway, according to the BW and PP posts this car has had a crap ton
>> of work done to it by a PO in Houston. Car has be beat on a little bit, or
>> maybe quite a bit but I think it’s got potential. It will need a dented in
>> RF fender replaced. The hood needs to be repainted. It also has some small
>> rust bubbles around the rear window seal on the passenger side. We know
>> there could be a lot more hiding under the seal. Also, in the corner on the
>> drivers side in the trunk drain channel, it’s got a bunch of silicone
>> gooped in there. I would suspect a rust hole maybe? Per carfax it was in WI
>> when new for a few years. Aside from the spots mentioned above it’s rust
>> free. Interior is actually in pretty good shape. Odo does not work. It
>> starts and runs great. Not much blowby, transmission shifts good,
>> suspension feels good. In the BW post it that guy was messing the piston
>> protrusion properly it would indicate it has bent rods. Just from casual
>> observing it running it does not show any signs of that at all so maybe he
>> was not measuring correctly.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] I bought that rod bender that was the topic of conversation 10 years ago on BW and PP

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I am still stumped at the inaccurate speedometer issue in my '85 300SD.
Reads/counts mph and miles driven about 10 percent too low.  Tire size is
correct so must be something else.

As an incentive, the first list member to unravel this mystery will receive
a complimentary jar of my artisinal jalapeno pepper jelly.

On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 4:41 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Very common. Gears disintegrate or come loose from their shaft and just
> spin.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 13, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I've noticed that odometers on most '85 - 87 300SD/L turbodiesels with
> > electric speedometers need repairs to start counting the miles again.
> >
> > On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 4:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I had to come to KC to pickup a hard top I found for the SL so went
> ahead
> >> and looked at it. Kid was asking $2800 for it. I paid him $1200 for it.
> >> Main reason I was interested was due to it being the super rare Bornite
> >> color. Anyway, according to the BW and PP posts this car has had a crap
> ton
> >> of work done to it by a PO in Houston. Car has be beat on a little bit,
> or
> >> maybe quite a bit but I think it’s got potential. It will need a dented
> in
> >> RF fender replaced. The hood needs to be repainted. It also has some
> small
> >> rust bubbles around the rear window seal on the passenger side. We know
> >> there could be a lot more hiding under the seal. Also, in the corner on
> the
> >> drivers side in the trunk drain channel, it’s got a bunch of silicone
> >> gooped in there. I would suspect a rust hole maybe? Per carfax it was
> in WI
> >> when new for a few years. Aside from the spots mentioned above it’s rust
> >> free. Interior is actually in pretty good shape. Odo does not work. It
> >> starts and runs great. Not much blowby, transmission shifts good,
> >> suspension feels good. In the BW post it that guy was messing the piston
> >> protrusion properly it would indicate it has bent rods. Just from casual
> >> observing it running it does not show any signs of that at all so maybe
> he
> >> was not measuring correctly.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] I bought that rod bender that was the topic of conversation 10 years ago on BW and PP

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Very common. Gears disintegrate or come loose from their shaft and just spin.

-D

> On May 13, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've noticed that odometers on most '85 - 87 300SD/L turbodiesels with
> electric speedometers need repairs to start counting the miles again.
> 
> On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 4:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I had to come to KC to pickup a hard top I found for the SL so went ahead
>> and looked at it. Kid was asking $2800 for it. I paid him $1200 for it.
>> Main reason I was interested was due to it being the super rare Bornite
>> color. Anyway, according to the BW and PP posts this car has had a crap ton
>> of work done to it by a PO in Houston. Car has be beat on a little bit, or
>> maybe quite a bit but I think it’s got potential. It will need a dented in
>> RF fender replaced. The hood needs to be repainted. It also has some small
>> rust bubbles around the rear window seal on the passenger side. We know
>> there could be a lot more hiding under the seal. Also, in the corner on the
>> drivers side in the trunk drain channel, it’s got a bunch of silicone
>> gooped in there. I would suspect a rust hole maybe? Per carfax it was in WI
>> when new for a few years. Aside from the spots mentioned above it’s rust
>> free. Interior is actually in pretty good shape. Odo does not work. It
>> starts and runs great. Not much blowby, transmission shifts good,
>> suspension feels good. In the BW post it that guy was messing the piston
>> protrusion properly it would indicate it has bent rods. Just from casual
>> observing it running it does not show any signs of that at all so maybe he
>> was not measuring correctly.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA

[Clay via Mercedes]

I think USAA opened it up to spawn of spawn a number of years back.  #1 boy has 
USAA CIC on his car and abode.

Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur

> On May 13, 2023, at 8:31 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> not made available to anyone outside of the military or their dependents.
> 
> Well, and _former_ dependents.  At age 62, I'm not really dependent upon
> anyone now...
> 
> But, my son will have to find his own insurance I guess.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 300td deal

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I'll give you $1 sight unseen.

On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 4:34 PM rick hawkins via Mercedes <
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> Folks
>
> This could be a deal
>
> Xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] I bought that rod bender that was the topic of conversation 10 years ago on BW and PP

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I've noticed that odometers on most '85 - 87 300SD/L turbodiesels with
electric speedometers need repairs to start counting the miles again.

On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 4:34 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I had to come to KC to pickup a hard top I found for the SL so went ahead
> and looked at it. Kid was asking $2800 for it. I paid him $1200 for it.
> Main reason I was interested was due to it being the super rare Bornite
> color. Anyway, according to the BW and PP posts this car has had a crap ton
> of work done to it by a PO in Houston. Car has be beat on a little bit, or
> maybe quite a bit but I think it’s got potential. It will need a dented in
> RF fender replaced. The hood needs to be repainted. It also has some small
> rust bubbles around the rear window seal on the passenger side. We know
> there could be a lot more hiding under the seal. Also, in the corner on the
> drivers side in the trunk drain channel, it’s got a bunch of silicone
> gooped in there. I would suspect a rust hole maybe? Per carfax it was in WI
> when new for a few years. Aside from the spots mentioned above it’s rust
> free. Interior is actually in pretty good shape. Odo does not work. It
> starts and runs great. Not much blowby, transmission shifts good,
> suspension feels good. In the BW post it that guy was messing the piston
> protrusion properly it would indicate it has bent rods. Just from casual
> observing it running it does not show any signs of that at all so maybe he
> was not measuring correctly.
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[MBZ] 300td deal

[rick hawkins via Mercedes]

Folks

This could be a deal

Xx rick

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Re: [MBZ] If poos is down south he needs to immediately buy this so he can flip it and make a lot of money

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Scammer.

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> https://www.facebook.com/groups/mbfanaticsfsft/permalink/6104780649575343/
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[MBZ] If poos is down south he needs to immediately buy this so he can flip it and make a lot of money

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Re: [MBZ] A tale of two R350s

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Looks like a squashed Honda Odyssey from the rear.

On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 2:52 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I like the black interior better but that’s a stupid ask
>
> —FT
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> > On May 13, 2023, at 2:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Same car, not the same price.
> >
> >
> https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/hamilton-2008-mercedes-r350/7620544501.html
> >
> >
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/d/park-ridge-mercedes-benz-r350-4matic/7620719036.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] A tale of two R350s

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I like the black interior better but that’s a stupid ask

—FT

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> On May 13, 2023, at 2:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> 
> Same car, not the same price.
> 
> https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/hamilton-2008-mercedes-r350/7620544501.html
> 
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/d/park-ridge-mercedes-benz-r350-4matic/7620719036.html
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[MBZ] A tale of two R350s

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Same car, not the same price.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/hamilton-2008-mercedes-r350/7620544501.html

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/d/park-ridge-mercedes-benz-r350-4matic/7620719036.html

The expensive one does look a little nicer/cleaner and has a better interior 
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Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: Chickens wearing backpacks

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

TMNC?  (Teenage Mutant Ninja Chickens.)

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[MBZ] Beyond OT: Chickens wearing backpacks

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The future is bright if you like chicken that has been free roaming.
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Glow Plug Relay

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On Sat, May 13, 2023, at 11:37, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

> start-release stopped the glow plugs

On my W116, if I know the engine is warm enough (e.g. after fueling or other
short stop) I won't wait for a full glow cycle. Ususally the glow light goes
out when I start the car, but occasionally it doesn't and it stays lit until
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Re: [MBZ] Talk Him Down, Blah Realtor Spec

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It’s a pretty basic transfer case. Transmission fluid to lube it.  They can get worn.  The axles CV joints can go bad but that’s kinda the same with 2WD cars too. --FTSent from iFōnOn May 13, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:Isn't that an early 4matic?  Any growing pains or issues?On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 11:53 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  wrote:Yeah maybe $3k--FTSent from iFōnOn May 13, 2023, at 10:59 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/196757249902509/ That’s worth looking at….at half the price. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Glow Plug Relay

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Ahh so the “activator” might not be working even if power is going through the 
system. That would be the main thing to check then

--FT
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> On May 13, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Used to be there were THREE connections to the relay:
> A big plug that went to the glow plugs, a big cable that
> went to the battery, and a small plug that was command
> and control.  The first two are Duh!, but they all need to
> be working correctly, or you don't get a good start.
> 
> IIRC there was an ignition-on signal, a start signal, and
> a dash lamp signal.  Ignition-on started the GP timer,
> start-release stopped the glow plugs, and the light was
> the light.
> 
> Not sure exactly what your car has.  Check the car schematic.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Talk Him Down, Blah Realtor Spec

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Isn't that an early 4matic?  Any growing pains or issues?

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> Yeah maybe $3k
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/196757249902509/
>
>
>
> That’s worth looking at….at half the price.
>
>
>
> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] 1965 Mercedes-Benz 190 four door sedan

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Tough to say without more details, but a reasonable price based on what I can 
see I would say between $3000-$5000. Cleaned up and sorted it’s a $10,000 car 
in today’s market, amazingly.

-D

On May 13, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What would you pay?

On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 8:16 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
Not at all. Looks liek it has some potential and isn’t in bad shape. My only 
concern would be the undercarriage, since it appears to have been parked over 
dirt.

-D

> On May 12, 2023, at 11:58 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> Not half bad, for half the asking price.
>
> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 10:33 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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>> Does not run,been stored  25 yrs.A engine rebuild was done 25 years
>> ago.All documents are available upon request.
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1086027876135126/
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Re: [MBZ] 1965 Mercedes-Benz 190 four door sedan

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I paid $100 for my 1966 230 that was in similar condition.

On Sat, May 13, 2023, at 12:07, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> What would you pay?
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 8:16 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Not at all. Looks liek it has some potential and isn’t in bad shape. My
>> only concern would be the undercarriage, since it appears to have been
>> parked over dirt.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> > On May 12, 2023, at 11:58 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Not half bad, for half the asking price.
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 10:33 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Does not run,been stored  25 yrs.A engine rebuild was done 25 years
>> >> ago.All documents are available upon request.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1086027876135126/
>> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 1965 Mercedes-Benz 190 four door sedan

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What would you pay?

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> Not at all. Looks liek it has some potential and isn’t in bad shape. My
> only concern would be the undercarriage, since it appears to have been
> parked over dirt.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 12, 2023, at 11:58 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Not half bad, for half the asking price.
> >
> > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 10:33 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> >
> >> Does not run,been stored  25 yrs.A engine rebuild was done 25 years
> >> ago.All documents are available upon request.
> >>
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1086027876135126/
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] I Admire Dawn's Exhaustive List

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Makes me wonder how much one could spend simply to salvage the cat.
converter and sell it.

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> With the miles and litany of issues, albeit mostly minor ones, $1500-$1800
> would be my range.
>
> -D
>
> On May 13, 2023, at 11:54 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> Start at $1500 offer, might not be bad with some minor work
>
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Turd for sale

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That car is inches away from a trip to the crusher.

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> What’s the matter? Too nice for the Back 40™?
>
> -D
>
> > On May 13, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Glow Plug Relay

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Used to be there were THREE connections to the relay:
A big plug that went to the glow plugs, a big cable that
went to the battery, and a small plug that was command
and control.  The first two are Duh!, but they all need to
be working correctly, or you don't get a good start.

IIRC there was an ignition-on signal, a start signal, and
a dash lamp signal.  Ignition-on started the GP timer,
start-release stopped the glow plugs, and the light was
the light.

Not sure exactly what your car has.  Check the car schematic.

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Re: [MBZ] One for AZ Bob?

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Gotcha. I’ll make a note of that as I watch the various venues for cars.

-D

> On May 13, 2023, at 12:32 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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> 
> Very specifically a green ‘71 or ‘72 220D, manual, Palomino….or something of 
> that ilk 
> 
> But, I know finding something like that gets tougher each day so I beginning 
> to open up to other diesel choices. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2023, at 9:04 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, I thought this was one you were looking for. What are you looking 
>> for, specifically?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On May 13, 2023, at 10:16 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ambitious pricing. The ‘75, ‘76 W115s are my least favorite on account of 
>> those bumpers and the W123 type steering wheel.
>> But still, I’m looking. You never know when you’ll see some type can’t live 
>> without.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 13, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Nice seats stuffed with memory foam. Geez for a crack price he should at 
>> least fix the seats properly.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 13, 2023, at 9:06 AM, Daniel Penoff via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <00e0e_789GHAjHgu0_0n20t2_600x450.jpg>
>> 1975 Mercedes 240d - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle 
>> automotive...
>> orlando.craigslist.org
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] One for AZ Bob?

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Very specifically a green ‘71 or ‘72 220D, manual, Palomino….or something of 
that ilk 
 
But, I know finding something like that gets tougher each day so I beginning to 
open up to other diesel choices. 

AZBob

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> On May 13, 2023, at 9:04 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I thought this was one you were looking for. What are you looking 
> for, specifically?
> 
> -D
> 
> On May 13, 2023, at 10:16 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Ambitious pricing. The ‘75, ‘76 W115s are my least favorite on account of 
> those bumpers and the W123 type steering wheel.
> But still, I’m looking. You never know when you’ll see some type can’t live 
> without.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 13, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Nice seats stuffed with memory foam. Geez for a crack price he should at 
> least fix the seats properly.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 13, 2023, at 9:06 AM, Daniel Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> <00e0e_789GHAjHgu0_0n20t2_600x450.jpg>
> 1975 Mercedes 240d - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle 
> automotive...
> orlando.craigslist.org
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA

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> not made available to anyone outside of the military or their dependents.

Well, and _former_ dependents.  At age 62, I'm not really dependent upon
anyone now...

But, my son will have to find his own insurance I guess.

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Re: [MBZ] Turd for sale

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What’s the matter? Too nice for the Back 40™?

-D

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Re: [MBZ] I Admire Dawn's Exhaustive List

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

With the miles and litany of issues, albeit mostly minor ones, $1500-$1800 
would be my range.

-D

On May 13, 2023, at 11:54 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Start at $1500 offer, might not be bad with some minor work

--FT
Sent from iFōn

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/769492631379086/



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Re: [MBZ] Knowing What it Takes to Fix a P0700....

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That’s a general high level TCM code. Probably conductor plate time?

Call it $3k and you’ve got a pretty nice deal. Take some dead presidents with 
you and let them do the talking.

-D

On May 13, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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TCM code?  Might need a new conductor plate?  Would need to dig into it a bit 
more. If it’s that $3k max even though it looks good

--FT
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mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


What does one offer for this low-miler?



https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1278077336445736/



Jesus….every single car in AZ is this wretched color.



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Re: [MBZ] One for AZ Bob?

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Sorry, I thought this was one you were looking for. What are you looking for, 
specifically?

-D

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mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Ambitious pricing. The ‘75, ‘76 W115s are my least favorite on account of those 
bumpers and the W123 type steering wheel.
But still, I’m looking. You never know when you’ll see some type can’t live 
without.

AZBob

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Nice seats stuffed with memory foam. Geez for a crack price he should at least 
fix the seats properly.

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Re: [MBZ] I Admire Dawn's Exhaustive List

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Start at $1500 offer, might not be bad with some minor work --FTSent from iFōnOn May 13, 2023, at 11:03 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/769492631379086/ AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] Talk Him Down, Blah Realtor Spec

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Yeah maybe $3k--FTSent from iFōnOn May 13, 2023, at 10:59 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/196757249902509/ That’s worth looking at….at half the price. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] Knowing What it Takes to Fix a P0700....

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TCM code?  Might need a new conductor plate?  Would need to dig into it a bit more. If it’s that $3k max even though it looks good--FTSent from iFōnOn May 13, 2023, at 11:06 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:What does one offer for this low-miler? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1278077336445736/ Jesus….every single car in AZ is this wretched color. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz-RV Coachman Prism - $75,000

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That’s not an unreasonable price 

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Re: [MBZ] 2000 E320 4matic - 63k miles - $6,999

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Stupid price but looks decent 

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> "Like new" but salvage title.
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[MBZ] 2012 C250 Coupe Sport - $13,000

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"Keep in mind if there is something out there cheaper thats a Coupe it will 
need work $"

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[MBZ] 2000 E320 4matic - 63k miles - $6,999

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"Like new" but salvage title.

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[MBZ] Mercedes Benz-RV Coachman Prism - $75,000

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If your idea of camping is sitting in a recliner watching DVD movies, this is 
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[MBZ] Knowing What it Takes to Fix a P0700....

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[MBZ] I Admire Dawn's Exhaustive List

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Re: [MBZ] One for AZ Bob?

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Crackish ask

—FT

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[MBZ] Turd for sale

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Send a message and ask if it’s still available 

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Re: [MBZ] One for AZ Bob?

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Re: [MBZ] One for AZ Bob?

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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Glow Plug Relay

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Get a wire and connect one end to the power coming into the relay then stick 
the other end on each pin in succession and see if you get power/heat to that 
particular plug. If the plugs get power you’ll know the problem is with the 
relay. If the plugs don’t heat up then there is some other issue. 

—FT

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> On May 13, 2023, at 8:57 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> How do I jumper around the relay? Battery positive terminal to what? The 
> harness has 5 pins. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2023, at 8:42 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So if you jumper around the relay do you get glows to the plugs?
>> 
>> —FT
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On May 13, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t hear the relay click but I don’t think it’s a mechanical relay. 
>>> Having no glow and then replacing the relay with factory new one and still 
>>> no glow makes me doubt that the new relay is bad though.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On May 12, 2023, at 9:31 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Can you hear or feel the relay click when the ignition switch is turned 
 on?  It sounds from all the symptoms like the mechanical relay is bad. Or 
 maybe be there isn’t enough current to actually activate the relay?  You 
 could still see volts but not current. Did you try running power directly 
 to the relay off the battery, bypass the ignition switch?
 
 --FT
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>> On May 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Ok so in addition to the wire that goes to the relay power lug, there is 
> a  second harness going to the relay which is comprised of 5 wires going 
> into a connector. One of these is purple with white stripe. One of these 
> 5 wires, not sure which without taking connector apart, is live only when 
> ignition is in on position. I’m guessing, therefore,  that there is 
> signal from key switch? So I’m guessing that if there is power to the 
> relay and there is signal from the key switch but there is no power 
> output from the relay at the five pins that go to the corresponding glow 
> plugs that the relay is bad. But this is a new relay. I realize that a 
> new relay could also be defective but I just don’t buy it. What could be 
> going on here?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 12, 2023, at 5:47 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  
>>> wrote:
>> I’m not sure how to check for that. There is constant power at the lug 
>> on the relay. With the ignition in the on position there is no power at 
>> any of the 5 pins on the relay that go to their respective glow plugs. 
>> I inspected the chaffed harness and while there are some exposed wires 
>> where the insulation has rubbed off, the wires appear to be intact and 
>> not obviously shorting on anything.
>> I’m at a loss here.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 12, 2023, at 12:43 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The signal from the keyswitch should be there at the relay.  If it's 
>>> not,
>>> of course it won't work.  Used to be the purple wire, IIRC.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Glow Plug Relay

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How do I jumper around the relay? Battery positive terminal to what? The 
harness has 5 pins. 

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> On May 13, 2023, at 8:42 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So if you jumper around the relay do you get glows to the plugs?
> 
> —FT
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 13, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t hear the relay click but I don’t think it’s a mechanical relay. 
>> Having no glow and then replacing the relay with factory new one and still 
>> no glow makes me doubt that the new relay is bad though.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 12, 2023, at 9:31 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can you hear or feel the relay click when the ignition switch is turned 
>>> on?  It sounds from all the symptoms like the mechanical relay is bad. Or 
>>> maybe be there isn’t enough current to actually activate the relay?  You 
>>> could still see volts but not current. Did you try running power directly 
>>> to the relay off the battery, bypass the ignition switch?
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
> On May 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Ok so in addition to the wire that goes to the relay power lug, there is 
 a  second harness going to the relay which is comprised of 5 wires going 
 into a connector. One of these is purple with white stripe. One of these 5 
 wires, not sure which without taking connector apart, is live only when 
 ignition is in on position. I’m guessing, therefore,  that there is signal 
 from key switch? So I’m guessing that if there is power to the relay and 
 there is signal from the key switch but there is no power output from the 
 relay at the five pins that go to the corresponding glow plugs that the 
 relay is bad. But this is a new relay. I realize that a new relay could 
 also be defective but I just don’t buy it. What could be going on here?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On May 12, 2023, at 5:47 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  
>> wrote:
> I’m not sure how to check for that. There is constant power at the lug 
> on the relay. With the ignition in the on position there is no power at 
> any of the 5 pins on the relay that go to their respective glow plugs. 
> I inspected the chaffed harness and while there are some exposed wires 
> where the insulation has rubbed off, the wires appear to be intact and 
> not obviously shorting on anything.
> I’m at a loss here.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 12, 2023, at 12:43 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The signal from the keyswitch should be there at the relay.  If it's 
>> not,
>> of course it won't work.  Used to be the purple wire, IIRC.
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Glow Plug Relay

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So if you jumper around the relay do you get glows to the plugs?

—FT

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> On May 13, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> I don’t hear the relay click but I don’t think it’s a mechanical relay. 
> Having no glow and then replacing the relay with factory new one and still no 
> glow makes me doubt that the new relay is bad though.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 12, 2023, at 9:31 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you hear or feel the relay click when the ignition switch is turned on? 
>>  It sounds from all the symptoms like the mechanical relay is bad. Or maybe 
>> be there isn’t enough current to actually activate the relay?  You could 
>> still see volts but not current. Did you try running power directly to the 
>> relay off the battery, bypass the ignition switch?
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On May 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok so in addition to the wire that goes to the relay power lug, there is a 
>>>  second harness going to the relay which is comprised of 5 wires going into 
>>> a connector. One of these is purple with white stripe. One of these 5 
>>> wires, not sure which without taking connector apart, is live only when 
>>> ignition is in on position. I’m guessing, therefore,  that there is signal 
>>> from key switch? So I’m guessing that if there is power to the relay and 
>>> there is signal from the key switch but there is no power output from the 
>>> relay at the five pins that go to the corresponding glow plugs that the 
>>> relay is bad. But this is a new relay. I realize that a new relay could 
>>> also be defective but I just don’t buy it. What could be going on here?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On May 12, 2023, at 5:47 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  
> wrote:
 I’m not sure how to check for that. There is constant power at the lug on 
 the relay. With the ignition in the on position there is no power at any 
 of the 5 pins on the relay that go to their respective glow plugs. 
 I inspected the chaffed harness and while there are some exposed wires 
 where the insulation has rubbed off, the wires appear to be intact and not 
 obviously shorting on anything.
 I’m at a loss here.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On May 12, 2023, at 12:43 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> The signal from the keyswitch should be there at the relay.  If it's not,
> of course it won't work.  Used to be the purple wire, IIRC.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Glow Plug Relay

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I don’t hear the relay click but I don’t think it’s a mechanical relay. Having 
no glow and then replacing the relay with factory new one and still no glow 
makes me doubt that the new relay is bad though.

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> On May 12, 2023, at 9:31 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can you hear or feel the relay click when the ignition switch is turned on?  
> It sounds from all the symptoms like the mechanical relay is bad. Or maybe be 
> there isn’t enough current to actually activate the relay?  You could still 
> see volts but not current. Did you try running power directly to the relay 
> off the battery, bypass the ignition switch?
> 
> --FT
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>> On May 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok so in addition to the wire that goes to the relay power lug, there is a  
>> second harness going to the relay which is comprised of 5 wires going into a 
>> connector. One of these is purple with white stripe. One of these 5 wires, 
>> not sure which without taking connector apart, is live only when ignition is 
>> in on position. I’m guessing, therefore,  that there is signal from key 
>> switch? So I’m guessing that if there is power to the relay and there is 
>> signal from the key switch but there is no power output from the relay at 
>> the five pins that go to the corresponding glow plugs that the relay is bad. 
>> But this is a new relay. I realize that a new relay could also be defective 
>> but I just don’t buy it. What could be going on here?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 12, 2023, at 5:47 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  
 wrote:
>>> I’m not sure how to check for that. There is constant power at the lug on 
>>> the relay. With the ignition in the on position there is no power at any of 
>>> the 5 pins on the relay that go to their respective glow plugs. 
>>> I inspected the chaffed harness and while there are some exposed wires 
>>> where the insulation has rubbed off, the wires appear to be intact and not 
>>> obviously shorting on anything.
>>> I’m at a loss here.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On May 12, 2023, at 12:43 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 The signal from the keyswitch should be there at the relay.  If it's not,
 of course it won't work.  Used to be the purple wire, IIRC.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1965 Mercedes-Benz 190 four door sedan

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Not at all. Looks liek it has some potential and isn’t in bad shape. My only 
concern would be the undercarriage, since it appears to have been parked over 
dirt.

-D

> On May 12, 2023, at 11:58 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Not half bad, for half the asking price.
> 
> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 10:33 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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>> Does not run,been stored  25 yrs.A engine rebuild was done 25 years
>> ago.All documents are available upon request.
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1086027876135126/
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Re: [MBZ] Oh...Another Tire Question

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

That’s like both of my MLs. Especially the 2008 - the stock 19” tires look tiny 
in the wheel wells. I don’t think they made a 20” wheel for it, but then, it 
wouldn’t look much bigger anyway. Same on the 2003 ML350, although not as 
pronounced.

As an aside, I hauled single cubic yards of topsoil with the 2003 ML350 last 
week in Flagstaff and it didn’t seem to have any effect on it’s performance. 
Moved right along without a bit of effort, or so it seemed.

-D

> On May 12, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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> Just to look a little better in the space. I’ve always thought the spec tires 
> looked small. 
> 
> AZBob
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>> On May 12, 2023, at 6:31 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> yes my tire people are good at info like that.
>> 
>>> On Fri, May 12, 2023, 8:19 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Talk to your tire guys?
>>> 
>>> There are numerous calculators online, but they are going the other
>>> direction, so to speak. As in “What tires will fit my wheels?” Without some
>>> tinkering I’m not sure they would even tell you that a particular size
>>> wouldn’t fit.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> On May 12, 2023, at 7:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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>>> 
>>> The stock wheels on the Dodge say LT265/70R17 is the prescribed tire size.
>>> That’s what is on it.
>>> How can I figure out how big of a tire will fit on that rim?  I feel it
>>> could accommodate a slightly wider or slightly higher profile tire on that
>>> rim.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
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