Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
With my massive array of solar roof panels and EV hookup, it makes more sense to drive an EV for routine errands. I watched the Fisker Product Vision Day show on youtube last night. They have some really cool vehicles about to reach the market. The only one in my price range is the Pear, due in

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Do they have orange PlasticDip on the door handles? -D From: Mercedes on behalf of Allan Streib via Mercedes Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 9:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Allan Streib Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf I think some of the Fisker cars look

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I think some of the Fisker cars look good, but I've never seen one in the wild. Are they actually making any of them? On Fri, Aug 4, 2023, at 07:38, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > With my massive array of solar roof panels and EV hookup, it makes more > sense to drive an EV for routine

[MBZ] 2004 SL500 - 105k miles - $14,800

2023-08-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
The soft focus photos double the car's value. https://muncie.craigslist.org/cto/d/daleville-2004-mercedes-sl500/7650648116.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I've seen the "no mow" stuff in northern AZ, but the funny thing is that grass is really rare there due to the climate. Most people, if they want grass, get the fake stuff. One of the things I love about the place. Other than having to rake pine needles twice a year, there's nothing else

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Imagine how HOAs will react when you park a new Aptera in front of your town home. On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 4:50 PM mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > On 2023-08-04 15:21, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Fri, 04 Aug 2023 14:31:31 -0400 mitch--- via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > >> I have never seen an

Re: [MBZ] What ev to buy

2023-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Agreed, if we get an EV I'll look hard at the Bolt. They discounted it recently, it seems like a lot of value. Have you ridden in a Prius? I haven't been in the latest generation (looks a lot like a Tesla if you ask me) but the older ones rode pretty rough. They're decent cars but but a lot

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2023-08-04 15:21, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Fri, 04 Aug 2023 14:31:31 -0400 mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: I have never seen an Aptera, but there's a Pulse sitting on a trailer in Bellevue Michigan this summer. (made in Owosso MI in the mid 1980s)

Re: [MBZ] Picking these up tomorrow

2023-08-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You stole those wheels. Aren't they usually $200+ retail? On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 1:16 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Staggered 18s off a 09E that’s currently in limp mode due to trans issues. > Could be an interesting visit. > > Also has a 107 that looks

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Why would they care? If it's not a recreational vehicle or a trailer, there's not a lot they could do about it. -D From: Mercedes on behalf of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 4:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That is just too sad. On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 5:38 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It depresses home values - doesn't conform to norms. > > On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 5:47 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Why would they care?

Re: [MBZ] AAA

2023-08-04 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 12:49:58 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > AAA doesnt pay enough. Drivers will take any other call first, even if > they accept the AAA. USAA towing is worthless for the same reason. I have found USAA's towing to be quite useful here in New Mexico. Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I drove a 2016 e-Golf today and was impressed at the fit and finish, comfort, ample power and acceleration, and functional design. It has regenerative braking, which actually increases range when in use, or at least holds it steady. Has only 44.5 k miles and shows no signs of wear or abuse. If

Re: [MBZ] What ev to buy

2023-08-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Bolts are more expensive than comparable Leafs. On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 4:41 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Agreed, if we get an EV I'll look hard at the Bolt. They discounted it > recently, it seems like a lot of value. > > > Have you ridden in a Prius? I haven't

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf NOW MB CL500

2023-08-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Borderline? On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 2:49 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I was driving the CL500 this afternoon. It has been raining the road > was still a bit wet. The car has wide Toyo tires on the back that I > think are a pretty hard compound, or they are

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
All electric cars made in the last 10-15 years have regenerative braking. Not a special feature... I bought my 2015 Jetta TDI in 2019, it had 60k on it. I paid right around $9k which was pretty much top dollar at the time but it was in very good shape and low mileage for a TDI. Car prices are

Re: [MBZ] Picking these up tomorrow

2023-08-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
He stole them out from under Kleb. He was too busy dealing with Mrs. Kleb breaking the GL again. -D From: Mercedes on behalf of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 5:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Subject:

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It depresses home values - doesn't conform to norms. On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 5:47 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Why would they care? If it's not a recreational vehicle or a trailer, > there's not a lot they could do about it. > > -D >

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Wouldn’t in Flagstaff. Mostly old hippies. -D On Aug 4, 2023, at 6:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:  It depresses home values - doesn't conform to norms. On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 5:47 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: Why would they care?

[MBZ] OT There appears to be some sort of altered state involved here -- Meyers Manx Build, $1

2023-08-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Someone please translate https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/596865635691207 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] What ev to buy

2023-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've been thinking about an EV as well. Now that I rarely commute we really don't need 2 diesel cars. Angie's Golf has been down with a bad tire for 2 months. I went to start it yesterday and the battery was dead. It'd been moved around the yard a few times so that wasn't a real surprise. Even

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A couple months ago I was at the vast northern estate, cruising in to camp on a road I had recently cut the bushes back on. It had rained a little bit and there were a bunch of green leaves on the grass making it pretty slippery. I was only in 2wd and when I got to the first turning hill

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2023-08-04 11:36, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I saw an Aptera driving north on I-35 in OKC years ago - sounds like they might be getting close to production. Aptera Motors I have never seen an Aptera, but there's a Pulse sitting on a trailer in Bellevue Michigan this

Re: [MBZ] AAA

2023-08-04 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
AAA doesnt pay enough. Drivers will take any other call first, even if they accept the AAA. USAA towing is worthless for the same reason. Charge air cooling leaks cause a lot of hard to pinpoint issues in these newer cars. On Fri, Aug 4, 2023, 11:50 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] 2004 SL500 - 105k miles - $14,800

2023-08-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I know that neighborhood well. My former hardwood supplier is in Daleville. I know exactly where it is along SR 67. As for the car, despite the Vaseline on the lens it looks nice, but I would avoid any SL later than 2001. This has hydropneumatic suspension (ABC) and will drain your wallet

Re: [MBZ] OT There appears to be some sort of altered state involved here -- Meyers Manx Build, $1

2023-08-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Prety straightforward, really. The seller has a genuine Meyers Manx kit car. They'll assemble it for you for $30k. At least that was my take. -D From: Mercedes on behalf of Floyd Thursby via Mercedes Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 11:05 AM To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] half the fleet has issues today

2023-08-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
My wife bought reader type safety glasses that she likes better than the regular readers. On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 10:18 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I'm old enough now I need readers to see what I'm doing. Though on that > job, admittedly half of it was by feel.

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> This was on my 2018 RAM 1500 classic. Its the basest of base models but > apparently the traction control is pretty smart. > I would expect an EV to be able to do better. Until it doesn't. All these ladies aids are not producing better drivers. And when the ladies aids puke due to dirty

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Interesting. The only thing I have found good about traction control is switching it off. I was trying to climb a snowy hill in my Volvo last winter. It's an XC90 but front-wheel drive only. When the wheels started to slip, it backed off the power, and I came to a stop. Could not get going

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
If momentum is ANY part of your driving solution, especially going uphill, traction control is worse than useless. "We keep you from getting in an accident by keeping you from getting home." *TM* Or perhaps: "In our cars in winter you'll die of exposure, not trauma." *TM* -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] What ev to buy

2023-08-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Up until 2017 all EVs except Tesla have a range of around 75 miles. On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 12:32 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Other than tires the only service was a failed 12 volt battery > > Hmm, I first read that as _fires_, not tires. Freudian slip much?

Re: [MBZ] What ev to buy

2023-08-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I would consider one for the Flagstaff house. It would be fine for running errands. That and have an IC vehicle for longer trips. I'm not remotely close to that decision yet, but it's been in the back of my mind. -D From: Mercedes on behalf of Andrew

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 04 Aug 2023 14:31:31 -0400 mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > I have never seen an Aptera, but there's a Pulse sitting on a trailer > in Bellevue Michigan this summer. (made in Owosso MI in the mid 1980s) > >

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Isn't this a little like saying you shouldn't use an impact driver to run long screws when building things because you should be using nails/spikes? If you don't regularly drive nails/spikes you won't be any good at it so the impact driver is making you a worse carpenter. Traction control is a

[MBZ] Make a cash Offer. No title 1994 Mercedes SL500,$1,950

2023-08-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Was running when parked, needed throttle body work and was missing on one cylinder from a bad plug wire. Put over $3,000 in transmission before it was parked. Everything there, some things in better shape than others. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/768945285028881 -- --FT

Re: [MBZ] Make a cash Offer. No title 1994 Mercedes SL500,$1,950

2023-08-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Pre-facelift R129. Avoid at all costs. -D From: Mercedes on behalf of Floyd Thursby via Mercedes Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Floyd Thursby Subject: [MBZ] Make a cash Offer. No title 1994 Mercedes SL500,$1,950 Was

Re: [MBZ] What ev to buy

2023-08-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
That's a possibility, but one of the main reasons I would want an EV for running around locally is the lack of need for maintenance/repairs. Bring in an IC car, even if it's a hybrid, and you kind of defeat that. -D From: Mercedes on behalf of Bob Rentfro via

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I bet they'll do well, they're heavy but more importantly they're balanced since the batteries are stashed all around the car. One of Angie's family has a Tesla Model 3. They've had it for 2 or 3 years now and absolutely love it. Their other car is a Subaru wagon that they use for hauling the

Re: [MBZ] What ev to buy

2023-08-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The thing I dislike about hybrids is not the hybrid itself but that people buy a big stupid SUV but get a hybrid so its "green"... -Curt On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 11:44:58 AM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: Wouldn’t a hybrid be the gateway vehicle to an EV? Buy a Toyota Venza

Re: [MBZ] AAA

2023-08-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
The issue was the upper intercooler hose came loose. I would have never guessed that from the description I was given of the problem. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2023, at 6:32 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 18:17:34 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > >>

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf NOW MB CL500

2023-08-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I was driving the CL500 this afternoon.  It has been raining the road was still a bit wet.  The car has wide Toyo tires on the back that I think are a pretty hard compound, or they are more for dry conditions.  Anyway, I took a turn with a bit of verve and the back end broke loose (which it

Re: [MBZ] What ev to buy

2023-08-04 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Wouldn’t a hybrid be the gateway vehicle to an EV? Buy a Toyota Venza (supposedly a Lexus in Toyota badging) before going electric? AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 4, 2023, at 8:38 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > I would consider one for the Flagstaff house. It would be

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I've looked at these for the AZ house. My biggest concern was driving it in the winter. Not as far as range or charging, but ground clearance and handling. I just wonder how well these will do in snow? -D From: Mercedes on behalf of OK Don via Mercedes Sent:

[MBZ] has 18 inch rims lowered in the back 2004 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 320 Wagon 4D, $2, 500

2023-08-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
i.e., needs new rear SLS accumulators.  Looks a little worn but at $2k could be a reasonable hauler https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/823538955876749 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The Fisker array sort of reminds me of vapor ware. I'll believe all these gee whiz vehicles when I see them on the local roads. On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 9:44 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Do they have orange PlasticDip on the door handles? > > -D >

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I saw an Aptera driving north on I-35 in OKC years ago - sounds like they might be getting close to production. Aptera Motors If I were in the market for a new car, I'd consider one of these. On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:15 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

2023-08-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
EVs are pretty heavy, so in theory they should be good snow cars. But they are also torquey, and have specific tire requirements to accomodate their weight, so I don't know how they do in reality. Cold weather does reduce the range substantially. On Fri, Aug 4, 2023, at 10:43, dan penoff.com

Re: [MBZ] What ev to buy

2023-08-04 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Chevy Bolt seems like excellent value. Tesla is getting sued for lying about range in their specs, which they have been doing for years. This has to impact their energy efficiency, because they are going less miles in tbe same battery pack charge. So it could be fraud on an EPA/CARB level. For

[MBZ] Picking these up tomorrow

2023-08-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Staggered 18s off a 09E that’s currently in limp mode due to trans issues. Could be an interesting visit. Also has a 107 that looks decent, quit running with black smoke from the exhaust. Hmmm https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1369357890594863/ --FT Sent from iFōn