Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

But what is a "Lifestyle Delivery Vehicle" ? On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, at 12:48, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > EVs are ideal for this sort of application -- daily routes that can manage an > entire day's driving under full load, then return to home base for overnight > recharging. > > On Mon, Jan 8,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

OK apparently "Lifestyle" is the name of the platform and "Delivery" is one of the configuration options available. https://www.canoo.com/canoo/ On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, at 12:58, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > But what is a "Lifestyle Delivery Vehicle" ? > > > On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, at 12:48,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

Possibly. I would think this could be managed by the chargers. Ramping up, throttling based on demand, techniques like this aren’t unknown. -D > On Jan 8, 2024, at 3:20 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > They also don't go very far or terribly fast in most cases... > > Its the charging that would

Re: [MBZ] Wheel/tire sizes?

And…duh! Since the profiles and diameters are the same, the tires will be the same diameter, so hence, no difference effectively. However, the sidewalls will be angled somewhat on the wider tire. Hmm. -D > On Jan 8, 2024, at 6:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > This is not

Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

I'd take off the new/used starter and try to turn the engine over before writing it off. Mitch. On 2024-01-08 15:49, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: As it turns out the engine in this car is out of the bad range for M272 350 engines.  ___

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

EVs are ideal for this sort of application -- daily routes that can manage an entire day's driving under full load, then return to home base for overnight recharging. On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 12:44 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

Some years back the local school district here asked the transportation manager to look into electric school buses. He did some research and reported back that they didn't make economic sense compared to diesel buses given the costs, battery technology, infrastructure needed for charging,

Re: [MBZ] Kleb car!!!

If it had "programming" it could" Start Run Roll Stop On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 3:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Live dangerously, the engine could crater on you… > > < > https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/orlando-2006-mercedes-clk-350/7705421527.html > > >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

All energy is generated by fossils fuels. How much fossil fuel is used to produce wind mills, or the batteries for these busses? Or solar panels? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 8, 2024, at 5:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > A quick Google search suggests that most of the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

As consumption is a concern with these, I would expect some pretty fancy software to manage the operation of the charger. This is not new, by any means. I’ve worked with industrial chargers for large battery banks that had these capabilities decades ago. Current limiting, load shedding, etc.,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 20:46:12 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > And they all need to be recharged by the time they're put into use > again. > > This is a case where failure is not acceptable, they MUST be recharged > in the time allowed so the electricity for them to be recharged

Re: [MBZ] Wheel/tire sizes?

This is not unlike the conundrum that my recently acquired AMG chrome staggered monoblocks have presented: They (as in all four) have 245/45 tires on them, despite being 8.5” on the fronts and 9.5” on the rears. And I have verified that they are, in fact, different pairs of wheels. I’ll have

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

They also don't go very far or terribly fast in most cases... Its the charging that would be an issue. -Curt On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 03:18:37 PM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: That’s sort of unexpected for a school district in IN… That said, think about the vehicle - a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

Well done, Craig! I would also posit that as a school district and government entity, they’re likely not paying anything near $0.20/kWH for their electricity, so I would expect that amount to be lower. What if we took your numbers and went so far as to suggest that a typical bus gets 10 mpg

[MBZ] Wheel/tire sizes?

On this 07E350 it appears to have staggered wheels (I have not pulled any off to see the exact sizes) with tires the following sizes: F 265/35ZR18 97Y R 285/35ZR18 97Y On my other cars (CL500, CL600) with staggered wheels I have F 245/45 ZR18 96Y. R 275/40 ZR18 99Y which makes sense as the

[MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

The article suggested they were around $40k apiece which is expensive for what is essentially a mini-van but not completely absurd considering today's absurd vehicle market... -Curt On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 02:13:22 PM EST, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: It would be

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

That’s sort of unexpected for a school district in IN… That said, think about the vehicle - a school bus would be the ideal EV platform, I would think, with loads of space for batteries. -D > On Jan 8, 2024, at 2:29 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Some years back the local

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 20:20:38 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > They also don't go very far or terribly fast in most cases... > > Its the charging that would be an issue. And as Rick posted Thu, 17 Nov 2022 21:18:58 +: https://youtu.be/ptI6BRVC1Kw Electric Cars:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

And in northern cold climates the batteries will degrade capacity and output considerably, and will require self-heating to make them work.  All that will degrade range considerably, I don't know how much a battery is affected in that regard. --FT On 1/8/24 5:38 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 22:55:08 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes" wrote: > Well done, Craig! Thank you! > I would also posit that as a school district and government entity, > they’re likely not paying anything near $0.20/kWH for their > electricity, so I would expect that amount to be lower.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

I guess in theory you could have timers so they didn't all start charging at the same time, but that adds to the complexity and cost of the charging infrastructure (and adds to its fallibility). On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, at 15:10, Curt Raymond wrote: > The Edison guys talked about the fundamental

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

And they all need to be recharged by the time they're put into use again. This is a case where failure is not acceptable, they MUST be recharged in the time allowed so the electricity for them to be recharged MUST be available. We're talking batteries in the 250kwh range, if you're discharging

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

Good point, Floyd, hadn’t thought about that. -D > On Jan 8, 2024, at 5:57 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > And in northern cold climates the batteries will degrade capacity and output > considerably, and will require self-heating to make them work. All that will > degrade range

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

And the diesel comes from oil pumped in the neighborhood, so there's that to consider too. --FT On 1/8/24 6:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: A quick Google search suggests that most of the electricity generated in OK is by way of fossil fuels so that puts a bit of a damper on the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

Also, school busses are not currently noted for catching on fire. What are the chances of roasting a busload of chilluns due to a minor accident? (Road hazard staking the battery pack?) Wouldn't take many of those to Hindenburg the entire concept, and any/everyone who voted for it. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Harmon Garden sound system - 2008 R320 CDI - 179k miles - $9, 680

Seems a LOT cheaper than $9700. On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 11:23 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Oddly specific price? > > > https://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/cto/d/climax-mercedes-2008-r320-awd-cdi/7705292871.html > ___ >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

The Edison guys talked about the fundamental problem with electric busses in one of their videos. This would particularly apply to school busses. School busses run on a fixed schedule, they pretty much all head out and return at the same time. So plug in all those busses, with their great big

Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 15:49:40 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > As it turns out the engine in this car is out of the bad range for M272 > 350 engines.  I'm not sure I checked that before and forgot I had, or > never checked it.  In any case that suggests that the balance shaft > issue

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

Something that is butt ugly Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 8, 2024, at 11:59 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > But what is a "Lifestyle Delivery Vehicle" ? > > >> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, at 12:48, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> EVs are ideal for this sort of application -- daily routes

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

It would be instructive to know what taxpayer subsidies are involved in this company and these products. Here in SC the state legislators have been handing out huge subsidies and FILOTs to various companies including a bunch of electric vehicle companies and suppliers. There was a company

Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

As it turns out the engine in this car is out of the bad range for M272 350 engines.  I'm not sure I checked that before and forgot I had, or never checked it.  In any case that suggests that the balance shaft issue is not the problem here, and it is something else that I will have to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

A quick Google search suggests that most of the electricity generated in OK is by way of fossil fuels so that puts a bit of a damper on the green side of electric school buses too. Randy On 08/01/2024 4:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Well done, Craig! I would also posit that as

Re: [MBZ] Anyone interested in a 2018 Porch Cayenne 95kmi

Yes she is. She thought I *might* expand my tolerance to another German brand in the interest of assisting in the sale --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 8, 2024, at 8:50 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 20:26:53 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > >>

Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

On 2024-01-08 20:32, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: I was able to spin the engine backwards a bit but going forward it hit a hard stop. Interestingly the timing marks on the crank pulley has 0deg right on top. Not sure if that means anything. Hydrolock #1? Dropped valve?

Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

Yeah I’m thinking that but the gear spun freely, and in any case shouldn’t be engaged to the flywheel. The old one looked fine too and at this point I’m thinking the starter isn’t the issue. I was able to spin the engine backwards a bit but going forward it hit a hard stop. Interestingly the

Re: [MBZ] Wheel/tire sizes?

Yeah that’s kinda weird that a tire shop would have done that. I wonder if these wheels are actually staggered (and I think they might be) so shortening the sidewalls by pushing them out actually makes them shorter such that the overall diameters are the same. But the rears are 20mm wider which

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

yes that is the oversight of the green movement. also how about the Lithium in the EV batteries? On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, 6:24 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > All energy is generated by fossils fuels. How much fossil fuel is used to > produce wind mills, or the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

Same in Indiana. Since the activists (in combination with some bad project management) succeeded in killing the Marble Hill nuclear project in the 1980s, it's nearly all coal and natural gas now, except for some wind power in the northwest part of the state. On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, at 18:04,

[MBZ] OT Kleb needs this

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Re: [MBZ] 2007 SL550R - 29k miles - $19,900

Beautiful color. I think the light interior color goes well with it and does look good in a summer cruiser. Very beachie --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 8, 2024, at 11:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Remarkably low miles and a decent color. I'm not that crazy about light >

Re: [MBZ] Anyone interested in a 2018 Porch Cayenne 95kmi

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 21:02:04 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > Yes she is. She thought I *might* expand my tolerance to another German > brand in the interest of assisting in the sale Is that *might* going to change to will? Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

> Also, school busses are not currently noted for catching on fire. What are the chances of roasting a busload of chilluns due to a minor accident? (Road hazard staking the battery pack?) Wouldn't take many of those to Hindenburg the entire concept, and any/everyone who voted for it. Hmm.

Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

I pulled all the plugs no joy. Next is cam covers. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 9, 2024, at 12:53 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2024-01-08 20:32, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > >> I was able to spin the engine backwards a bit but going forward it hit a >> hard stop.

Re: [MBZ] Anyone interested in a 2018 Porch Cayenne 95kmi

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 20:26:53 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > White/brown, all dealer serviced, last “major” service recently done. > > It’s her baby so she thinks it’s precious (and she treated it as such), > was thinking $26k but $18-20 is probably more realistic given market >

Re: [MBZ] Anyone interested in a 2018 Porch Cayenne 95kmi

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 20:26:53 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > White/brown, all dealer serviced, last “major” service recently done. > > It’s her baby so she thinks it’s precious (and she treated it as such), > was thinking $26k but $18-20 is probably more realistic given market >

[MBZ] 2007 SL550R - 29k miles - $19,900

Remarkably low miles and a decent color. I'm not that crazy about light interiors but they look better in a convertible. https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-louis-2007-mercedes-benz-sl550r/7705501832.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 04:11:51 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > > Also, school busses are not currently noted for catching on fire. > > What are the chances of roasting a busload of chilluns due to a > minor accident? (Road hazard staking the battery pack?) > Wouldn't take many of those to

Re: [MBZ] Anyone interested in a 2018 Porch Cayenne 95kmi

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Re: [MBZ] the odometer screen went out, and I was told it's an issue with the transmission. 2004 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 600 Sedan 4D, $5, 500

You can use an app instead of the odometer. On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 10:13 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Malik is a Dreamer > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/397028322672045 > > -- > --FT > ___ >

[MBZ] Harmon Garden sound system - 2008 R320 CDI - 179k miles - $9, 680

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[MBZ] the odometer screen went out, and I was told it's an issue with the transmission. 2004 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 600 Sedan 4D, $5, 500

Malik is a Dreamer https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/397028322672045 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] Well. It's certainly.... visible 2012 Mercedes-Benz cls-class Twin turbo trade trade trade, $1

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