Re: [MBZ] Tightening Connecting Rod bolts.

2005-09-06 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 13:54:51 -0400 Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 The deviation from circular can not be more than 0.05 mm - that's 
 0.0002 (unless I lost a decimal point somewhere). For a new or rebored 
 block the limit is between none to 0.014mm.


Sorry, Marshall, you did lose a decimal point.


0.05 mm ~= 0.002

   0.014 mm ~= 0.00055


Nevertheless, the point about being well beyond spec is well taken.



Craig



Re: [MBZ] 3 Cly. 240D

2005-09-06 Thread johnvi
Marshall,
Great to hear from you. You first replied to my messages before I bought this
car. I found the MBZ list when I was looking for a MB Diesel.  I have now had
this car for almost 5 years and almost 80K miles. I am now at a point where the
car needs much attention before it continues on with the 500K miles I am told it
will go.
I adjusted the valves about 5,000 miles ago, I will start by checking them. I
will also start spraying the injectors and lines with PB blaster and check
them next.  I need to get a socket or official MB tool to remove the injectors,
which do I need to get?
Thank you for your help,
John Ingram
83 240D 235K


You say the valves are adjusted. Adjusting valves days or weeks ago
doesn't insure proper operation. You REALLY need to examine the valves
NOW to insure that there is sufficient valve clearance. Any time after
the valves are adjusted, valve adjustment can change - it usually
doesn't happen quickly, but it can.

I don't expect that valves are the major factor though. I think it's
MUCH more likely to be fuel delivery. Probably either an injector or
delivery valve problem. Easiest check is to isolate which cylinder and
exchange THAT injector with another and see if the problem moves with
the injector or remains (suggesting a delivery valve).

Marshall

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Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

2005-09-06 Thread thargrav
They are.

Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com

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 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  The New Orleans Times-Picayune has published an open letter to the 
  President:
 
 You Bush haters are a sad, bitter lot.
 
 Alan Duff
 Knoxville, TN 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Tightening Connecting Rod bolts.

2005-09-06 Thread Marshall Booth

Craig McCluskey wrote:


Sorry, Marshall, you did lose a decimal point.


0.05 mm ~= 0.002

   0.014 mm ~= 0.00055


Nevertheless, the point about being well beyond spec is well taken.


I was ALMOST sure I missed a decimal point, but even with that - what 
was measured was 3X worse than Mercedes allows!


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Re: [MBZ] OT-video camera

2005-09-06 Thread Bill Gallagher
The best color is Sony followed by Panasonic . hope you are looking 
at HD, if not it's a wast of money  HD 1080i format will show 
quality just under a 16 mm movie camera with color like Star War and 
beyond . enough to display a trillion colors 


http://www.camcorderinfo.com   is a good place to start pay close 
attention to the color bar test .and see the color difference 
between each model poor color will look like your non-HD tv of today 
..


Bill
1981 300 TD




Gerald R. Flintrop wrote:


Luther,

I've been lusting after the Samsung Duo-Cam, for several reasons. Best
street price I've found is around $479.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1682930,00.asp 


Jerry   Ö¿Ö
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Subject: [MBZ] OT-video camera

I'm in the market for a good digital video camera.  I don't want to break  
a budget, but would like a good quality camera, reliable, still shot  
feature, firewire output.  What are good brands/models to look at?  TIA  
all.


 





Re: [MBZ] why do I have to pour gas down my carbs to get my 250 to start?

2005-09-06 Thread Peter Frederick
Most likely dry carbs (all the gas evaporated) compounded by sticky 
chokes.


Both chokes must close (and open) properly to get good cold starts, and 
if it's been sitting while in the summer, the carbs are going to by 
dry, so you have to crank until they fill.


This scenario will by greatly exacerbated by having ancient, mostly 
diesel fuel gasoline in the tank.  Old gas smells horrible, and most of 
the volatile fraction will have evaporated, making it very hard to 
start the car.


I would recommend DRIVING the car once a week, long enough to keep 
fairly fresh gas in the tank and all the moving parts moving.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

2005-09-06 Thread Bill Gallagher
Your remarks make me recall the 911 commission report about Ashcroft 
actions . The first plane go into the towers and he is at a meeting 
and told about it the meeting continues... the second aircraft goes 
into the second tower and he is told about it and the meeting goes on 
.. the third aircraft crashes in the Penetigon, where Ashcroft is 
having the meeting, and goes out to the parting lot to look at the 
damage  Recall, Ashcroft is Secretary of Defense and has the job of 
defending the USA .
   Bush is frustrated cuz he can't contact the secretary of state to 
get the info about the attack .

   You should read the 911 report, it goes far beyond your thinking .

Bill


redghost wrote:

Lack of action by people told to evacuate is not going to sway me into 
thinking that George Bush  would have swooped in and saved the 
stragglers in WTC, victims of tornados, hurricanes, wild fires, 
political unrest, or NOLA looting.  At some point these people become 
sad but acceptable casualties.  Stuff happens, people die, it is sad.  
Do the next load of people learn from the failure to survive of the 
last bunch?  Got me on that one.


And under the who was in office theory of blame for tragic events, the 
Shuttle disasters are the doing of republicans, Atomic attacks on urban 
areas are democrat caused, the riots in Watts and across the nation as 
well as the deaths of college kids in 1968 is the fault of democrats.   
The Berlin Wall is Kennedy's fault?  The Iran Hostage crisis was caused 
by Jimmy Carter?  Democrat governors in Kalifornia cause earthquakes 
and wild fires?


Next you will tell me Bush is Great because we get the new CDI, while 
Clinton was horrid for allowing the rod benders to be sold, and forced 
DCB to no longer sell diesel cars.


On Sunday, September 4, 2005, at 05:33 PM, Bill Gallagher wrote:

 


People stayed in the second world trade tower, even though they were
told to evacuate., look what happen to them .why don't you
complain about their actions
   What rocks me after reading 254 pages of the 911 commission report
and read the news about NO, they still don't get it, they did not get 
it

right, and looking for whom to blame  . history repeats itself and
it's done so soon We have two great tragic events in US History
under the same leadership .. focus on that


Bill
1981 300 TD


David Brodbeck wrote:

   


redghost wrote:


 


The federal government is there to protect its citizens and to render
aid as best it can.  The MANDATORY evacuation was given, which should
have been heeded and would have reduced casualties had the laggards
followed it.   Bush is not able to stop Category 4 hurricanes in 
their

path, nor able to swoop down and rescue trapped home owners or
hospitalized people personally.  Those are not his job.


   


So how WERE the hospitalized people supposed to follow the evacuation
order, without government help?  I'm floored by the argument that 
those
people somehow made a choice to stay because they felt like ignoring 
the

evacuation order.

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Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

2005-09-06 Thread Harry  M.
I think that there will be more of the who's to blame for this The real 
question now lies in what do we do to prevent it from happening again? The 
government did not tell the terrorist to fly the planes into the WTC. The 
govenment did not tell someone to bomb the Federal building in Ok. The 
govenment did not tell Katrina to wipe out a entire city and kill innocent 
people. Nobody is to blame for certain forces beyond our control, including 
mother nature. So now the focus should truly be on what do we do to clean up 
this mess and keep our blame where it should be... silenced! I see US Coast 
Guard and Army National Guard attempt rescues and food and water drops only to 
be bum rushed by mobs of angry people? Hey we come to help so just rush our 
choppers and make them crash so more people die. Ha!



Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You understand a small portion of the big problem size of it beyond 
the resources of the locals . National and International aid is 
needed . Thing big time disaster . the red flag are flying 
strong and bright . 140 mph winds, waves 20 to 30 feet high, force 
equal to about 25 atomic bombs approaching the gulf coast.. Get it 

Bill



Harry  M. wrote:

I'm sure this will be one event to go down in history where there is alot of 
so called finger pointing They knew what would happen if they stayed there 
and failed to listen. Now they blame the government for not acting when they 
were in desperate need of help. The true blame should be on their own local 
and state law enforcement agencies for not responding to this disaster and 
making sure there was a proper evac plan to get the citizens out. Same 
situation in Florida and those people were smart enough to know what get the 
hell out means. 



Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

People stayed in the second world trade tower, even though they were 
told to evacuate., look what happen to them .why don't you 
complain about their actions
   What rocks me after reading 254 pages of the 911 commission report 
and read the news about NO, they still don't get it, they did not get it 
right, and looking for whom to blame  . history repeats itself and 
it's done so soon We have two great tragic events in US History 
under the same leadership .. focus on that


Bill
1981 300 TD


David Brodbeck wrote:

    

redghost wrote:
 

      

The federal government is there to protect its citizens and to render 
aid as best it can.  The MANDATORY evacuation was given, which should 
have been heeded and would have reduced casualties had the laggards 
followed it.   Bush is not able to stop Category 4 hurricanes in their 
path, nor able to swoop down and rescue trapped home owners or 
hospitalized people personally.  Those are not his job.
   

        

So how WERE the hospitalized people supposed to follow the evacuation
order, without government help?  I'm floored by the argument that those
people somehow made a choice to stay because they felt like ignoring the
evacuation order.

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Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

2005-09-06 Thread Marshall Booth

Bill Gallagher wrote:
Your remarks make me recall the 911 commission report about Ashcroft 
actions . The first plane go into the towers and he is at a meeting 
and told about it the meeting continues... the second aircraft goes 
into the second tower and he is told about it and the meeting goes on 
.. the third aircraft crashes in the Penetigon, where Ashcroft is 
having the meeting, and goes out to the parting lot to look at the 
damage  Recall, Ashcroft is Secretary of Defense and has the job of 
defending the USA .
Bush is frustrated cuz he can't contact the secretary of state to 
get the info about the attack .

You should read the 911 report, it goes far beyond your thinking .


Ashcroft was the Attorney General! Rumsfeld is the Sec. of Defense. Rice 
is the Sec. of State.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

2005-09-06 Thread Bill Gallagher
O.K ..   you have exposed my learning disability  get those 
names mixed up from time to time .


Bill


Marshall Booth wrote:


Bill Gallagher wrote:
 

Your remarks make me recall the 911 commission report about Ashcroft 
actions . The first plane go into the towers and he is at a meeting 
and told about it the meeting continues... the second aircraft goes 
into the second tower and he is told about it and the meeting goes on 
.. the third aircraft crashes in the Penetigon, where Ashcroft is 
having the meeting, and goes out to the parting lot to look at the 
damage  Recall, Ashcroft is Secretary of Defense and has the job of 
defending the USA .
   Bush is frustrated cuz he can't contact the secretary of state to 
get the info about the attack .

   You should read the 911 report, it goes far beyond your thinking .
   



Ashcroft was the Attorney General! Rumsfeld is the Sec. of Defense. Rice 
is the Sec. of State.


Marshall
 





Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

2005-09-06 Thread LT Don
Stop confusing them with facts, Marshall. 

On 9/5/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Bill Gallagher wrote:
  Your remarks make me recall the 911 commission report about Ashcroft
  actions . The first plane go into the towers and he is at a meeting
  and told about it the meeting continues... the second aircraft goes
  into the second tower and he is told about it and the meeting goes on
  .. the third aircraft crashes in the Penetigon, where Ashcroft is
  having the meeting, and goes out to the parting lot to look at the
  damage  Recall, Ashcroft is Secretary of Defense and has the job of
  defending the USA .
  Bush is frustrated cuz he can't contact the secretary of state to
  get the info about the attack .
  You should read the 911 report, it goes far beyond your thinking .
 
 Ashcroft was the Attorney General! Rumsfeld is the Sec. of Defense. Rice
 is the Sec. of State.
 
 Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 240d park/neutral interlock question

2005-09-06 Thread OK Don
I'm a t least a close second - since I'm still in the middle of the year and 
a half engine swap in the SLC -- which is what I've been doing all weekend - 
it sure seems more coplicated than the last swap I did - a 115 300D.

On 9/5/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 thats no joke. I just got done mowing my back yard that was neck high
 because I put off mowing it for so long. The reason being of course is
 that I have to move about a dozen cars around when I go to mow the back
 yard.
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers

2005-09-06 Thread OK Don
So, why are the 115 220Ds getting 6 to 10 more mpg than a 123 240D? The 240D 
isn't THAT much larger an engine, and the 123 might be a tad lighter than a 
115?

My first MB was a '70 220D, and I got almost exactly the same mileage that 
Clay is getting.


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Re: [MBZ] OT-video camera

2005-09-06 Thread Mike Canfield
I have the Sony HC-21 Handycam and it works great.  With an extra battery 
and some tapes it was about $500.  I compared ease of use(touch screen and 
small size), price and mostly the quality of the lens and the power of the 
zoom.  The Sony excelled in all of them.  My $.02, Mike
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Subject: [MBZ] OT-video camera



I'm in the market for a good digital video camera.  I don't want to break
a budget, but would like a good quality camera, reliable, still shot
feature, firewire output.  What are good brands/models to look at?  TIA
all.

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Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

2005-09-06 Thread redghost

At that time Powell was Sec State, Rice was National Security

On Monday, September 5, 2005, at 05:06 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:


Bill Gallagher wrote:

Your remarks make me recall the 911 commission report about Ashcroft
actions . The first plane go into the towers and he is at a 
meeting
and told about it the meeting continues... the second aircraft 
goes

into the second tower and he is told about it and the meeting goes on
.. the third aircraft crashes in the Penetigon, where Ashcroft is
having the meeting, and goes out to the parting lot to look at the
damage  Recall, Ashcroft is Secretary of Defense and has the job 
of

defending the USA .
Bush is frustrated cuz he can't contact the secretary of state to
get the info about the attack .
You should read the 911 report, it goes far beyond your thinking 
.


Ashcroft was the Attorney General! Rumsfeld is the Sec. of Defense. 
Rice

is the Sec. of State.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers

2005-09-06 Thread redghost
Fewer power drain things attached to the engine.  Nothing other than 
the alternator and water pump going on Gump.  The 616 cars probably had 
automatics, which rob some power, power steering and AC suck more.


Maybe the location of the oil filter and having the oil bath air filter 
increases mileage?


On Monday, September 5, 2005, at 06:06 PM, OK Don wrote:

So, why are the 115 220Ds getting 6 to 10 more mpg than a 123 240D? 
The 240D isn't THAT much larger an engine, and the 123 might be a tad 
lighter than a 115?


My first MB was a '70 220D, and I got almost exactly the same mileage 
that Clay is getting.



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Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

2005-09-06 Thread redghost
I suspect that Ashcroft was Attorney General and against boobies, 
Rumsfield was the SecDef and a booby



On Monday, September 5, 2005, at 05:01 PM, Bill Gallagher wrote:


Your remarks make me recall the 911 commission report about Ashcroft
actions . The first plane go into the towers and he is at a meeting
and told about it the meeting continues... the second aircraft goes
into the second tower and he is told about it and the meeting goes on
.. the third aircraft crashes in the Penetigon, where Ashcroft is
having the meeting, and goes out to the parting lot to look at the
damage  Recall, Ashcroft is Secretary of Defense and has the job of
defending the USA .
Bush is frustrated cuz he can't contact the secretary of state to
get the info about the attack .
You should read the 911 report, it goes far beyond your thinking 
.


Bill


redghost wrote:


Lack of action by people told to evacuate is not going to sway me into
thinking that George Bush  would have swooped in and saved the
stragglers in WTC, victims of tornados, hurricanes, wild fires,
political unrest, or NOLA looting.  At some point these people become
sad but acceptable casualties.  Stuff happens, people die, it is sad.
Do the next load of people learn from the failure to survive of the
last bunch?  Got me on that one.

And under the who was in office theory of blame for tragic events, the
Shuttle disasters are the doing of republicans, Atomic attacks on 
urban

areas are democrat caused, the riots in Watts and across the nation as
well as the deaths of college kids in 1968 is the fault of democrats.
The Berlin Wall is Kennedy's fault?  The Iran Hostage crisis was 
caused

by Jimmy Carter?  Democrat governors in Kalifornia cause earthquakes
and wild fires?

Next you will tell me Bush is Great because we get the new CDI, while
Clinton was horrid for allowing the rod benders to be sold, and forced
DCB to no longer sell diesel cars.

On Sunday, September 4, 2005, at 05:33 PM, Bill Gallagher wrote:




People stayed in the second world trade tower, even though they were
told to evacuate., look what happen to them .why don't you
complain about their actions
   What rocks me after reading 254 pages of the 911 commission report
and read the news about NO, they still don't get it, they did not get
it
right, and looking for whom to blame  . history repeats itself 
and

it's done so soon We have two great tragic events in US History
under the same leadership .. focus on that


Bill
1981 300 TD


David Brodbeck wrote:




redghost wrote:




The federal government is there to protect its citizens and to 
render
aid as best it can.  The MANDATORY evacuation was given, which 
should

have been heeded and would have reduced casualties had the laggards
followed it.   Bush is not able to stop Category 4 hurricanes in
their
path, nor able to swoop down and rescue trapped home owners or
hospitalized people personally.  Those are not his job.




So how WERE the hospitalized people supposed to follow the 
evacuation

order, without government help?  I'm floored by the argument that
those
people somehow made a choice to stay because they felt like ignoring
the
evacuation order.

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[MBZ] why do I have to pour gas down my carbs to get my 250

2005-09-06 Thread boernermc
Kaleb,
Sounds like the vent valve is staying open  fuel is evaporating from the float 
bowl.  Leather (IIRC) accel. pump seals dry out and pump little fuel until the 
bowl fills  they swell again.
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Re: [MBZ] 240d park/neutral interlock question

2005-09-06 Thread Mike Canfield

HEHEHEHE.They do have the headquarters there.  Mike
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Oh, Mike must be an honorary citizen of NOLA

On Monday, September 5, 2005, at 07:49 AM, Mike Canfield wrote:


Mac,
  I have crowned myself group leader for procrastinators 
anonymous.Never

do today what you can put off till tomorrow.LOLOL, Mike



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[MBZ] A/C condensor for '78 450SLC

2005-09-06 Thread OK Don
Does anyone have pros/cons for the aftermarket vs. Behr condensors? I
need to replace the one in the '78 450SLC.

The choices so far are:
Rusty - $250, ? warranty, http://tinyurl.com/d3y8y, Behr
eBay 1 - $150, 30 day warranty, http://tinyurl.com/ah7ss, after market
eBay 2 - $120, 90 day warranty, http://tinyurl.com/d4sdw, after market

Any experience with the less expensive units? Are they a waste of
money and time, or OK for 5-10 years?


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'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC
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Re: [MBZ] why do I have to pour gas down my carbs to get my 250 to start?

2005-09-06 Thread OK Don
You don't drive it enough!

On 9/5/05, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Most likely dry carbs (all the gas evaporated) compounded by sticky
 chokes.
 
 Both chokes must close (and open) properly to get good cold starts, and
 if it's been sitting while in the summer, the carbs are going to by
 dry, so you have to crank until they fill.
 
 This scenario will by greatly exacerbated by having ancient, mostly
 diesel fuel gasoline in the tank.  Old gas smells horrible, and most of
 the volatile fraction will have evaporated, making it very hard to
 start the car.
 
 I would recommend DRIVING the car once a week, long enough to keep
 fairly fresh gas in the tank and all the moving parts moving.
 
 Peter



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Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers

2005-09-06 Thread Zeitgeist
My '73 220D w/powersteering never got less than 30 mpg, and I'm a bit
puzzled that the 123 series cars get less than that.  My'87 300TD has
never gotten less than 26 mpg (usually no less than 30 mpg) and the
'84 300D seems to consistently get between 24 and 25 mpg.

The location of that oil filter made me NOT want to drive it and
accumulate enough miles to necessitate an RR--evil placement, that.

btw: it's nice to wander off topic and discuss MBs for a change.

On 9/5/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fewer power drain things attached to the engine.  Nothing other than
 the alternator and water pump going on Gump.  The 616 cars probably had
 automatics, which rob some power, power steering and AC suck more.
 
 Maybe the location of the oil filter and having the oil bath air filter
 increases mileage?

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (208k)
'84 300D (203k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)



[MBZ] 27mm socket

2005-09-06 Thread johnvi
As I recall that is the same size I will need to turn the crankshaft to check
thr cam chain, right?

its a 27mm deep socket

 -
 What size socket do I need to remove the injecter?




Re: [MBZ] 240d park/neutral interlock question

2005-09-06 Thread Mike Canfield
OH NO...Sounds WAY too familiarI sell Suzuki and Geo 4x4 parts and 
have a yard full of them to mow around.  Been glad it has been dry this 
summer so the grass didn't grow much after I mowed it a couple 
times..Mike
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thats no joke.  I just got done mowing my back yard that was neck high
because I put off mowing it for so long.  The reason being of course is
that I have to move about a dozen cars around when I go to mow the back
yard.

Steve MacSween wrote:

Watch it. Our list owner is I believe the acknowledged King 
Procrastinatius

of Mercedes Land.

mac

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Re: [MBZ] Tightening Connecting Rod bolts.

2005-09-06 Thread dave walton
Any pointers on how to procure a rebuilt engine would be appreciated. My 
local mercedes dealer is useless - on a good day.
It is curious that the cylinder wall rim above the area of travel of the top 
piston ring is roughly as out of round as the area where the piston travels. 
It is possible that I missed a decimal point, but I doubt I'm that lucky...
Unfortunately I did not find this list until long after I had purchased the 
car. I appreciate everyone's help and patience.

Thanks

-Dave Walton


On 9/5/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Craig McCluskey wrote:
 
  Sorry, Marshall, you did lose a decimal point.
 
 
  0.05 mm ~= 0.002
 
  0.014 mm ~= 0.00055
 
 
  Nevertheless, the point about being well beyond spec is well taken.
 
 I was ALMOST sure I missed a decimal point, but even with that - what
 was measured was 3X worse than Mercedes allows!
 
 Marshall
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[MBZ] W108 Zenith carb question

2005-09-06 Thread Roberto

Hello guys

After a month out on a vacation trip I am back to the list, this time I have 
a question about mix screw on a doble Zenith carburators of my 280s W108, I 
know is a sily question but I am a little confuse about what my service 
manual describe, I use to make a running test in a small hill near home, if 
I drive the car without the air filter and the air filtes container (I mean 
the black can over the carbs) the car perfoms very well, but when I put the 
filter on the car fail  in the high end of the power band some kind of lack 
of something. I friend told me that could be a rich mix (lack of air) so I 
have to reset the mixrure screw. Wich side turn make the mixture richer?.

Greetings


From the sunny lands of Caracas Venzuela


Roberto
1972 280S W108 





Re: [MBZ] 3 Cyl. 240D

2005-09-06 Thread Steve MacSween
Others have chimed in with good advice, John. I would put my money on you
having dirty injectors. But obviously that's my shot in the twilight, so
don't take it as any sort of gospel.

One thing you *may* want to do is run through a tin of Diesel Purge, though
I don't think anyone has yet mentioned it. I have done this on two cars I
purchased that supposedly had motor issues, as a sort of canary down the
coal mine quick test to see if I was dealing with fuel/injector issues, or
potentially something more serious. (Incidentally, in both cases I was
rewarded with results that indicated bad diagnoses given to previous owners
of the cars, by shops.)

Here I am talking about the method of putting the intake and return lines
right into a clean container filled with Purge, and running the car directly
off that. My experience, FWIW, has been that an even seriously clogged
injector comes to life (may take a minute or two) with straight Diesel Purge
running through it, and will run pretty normally for a while that way. Once
it's back on diesel, however, it will probably soon pooch out again.

Variations on this, if you are hesitant to pull those lines, are (1) to just
dump the Purge into the tank, if it's below 1/4 at the time, and/or (2) to
replace the big (spin-on) fuel filter and fill the new one with Purge before
you install it. However, neither of those methods is as effective.

Just in closing, I always thought the general wisdom was that it was a good
idea to have the injectors professionally cleaned/tested every 100k miles or
so, even sooner for cars that see lots of short trips and city use, even if
no problems were evident. It isn't particularly expensive, and it's good
preventative maintenance.

Cheers

mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does the engine run as though it has a dead cylinder at all rpm ranges, and
 under load, or just while idling?
 It seems to run on all 4 cylinders at driving speed. Up until the time it
 started running on 3 cylinders it was an intermittent problem.
 
 Have the injectors ever been tested/cleaned and/or rebuilt?
 No, car has 235K.
 
 Did this come on gradually or suddenly (for example, after a fillup)?
 Gradually, the Italian Tune-up seemed to clear it up at first. It gradually
 got worse and worse.




Re: [MBZ] 27mm socket

2005-09-06 Thread redghost
I found that the 616 has head bolts that got in the way of removal.  
Hex key for that.  Also good to get a spanner of a certain size to grab 
the upper body of the injector.PB blaster and Kroil to loosen, and 
the spanner makes a good whacking platform to knock the injector loose.


On Monday, September 5, 2005, at 07:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

As I recall that is the same size I will need to turn the crankshaft 
to check

thr cam chain, right?

its a 27mm deep socket

 -
 What size socket do I need to remove the injecter?


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Re: [MBZ] 27mm socket

2005-09-06 Thread Peter Frederick
Go to Sear, they have a nice one for about $8 last time I bought one 
(who knows what it is now!).


27 mm fits the injectors too.

Peter




Re: [MBZ] 27mm socket

2005-09-06 Thread David Brodbeck
Peter Frederick wrote:
 Go to Sear, they have a nice one for about $8 last time I bought one 
 (who knows what it is now!).
 
 27 mm fits the injectors too.

I've used that socket to remove injectors on VWs, before.  One caution
-- be careful not to put a side load on it, or you may damage the return
line fittings by mashing them against the wall of the socket.  I usually
used a cheater pipe so I didn't have to apply as much sideways force
when I broke the injectors loose.



Re: [MBZ] 27mm socket

2005-09-06 Thread Bob Rentfro

[EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:

As I recall that is the same size I will need to turn the crankshaft to 
check

thr cam chain, right?

its a 27mm deep socket



I am able to turn mine with a 17mm (I believe) on the power steering 
sproket. It's not the knucklebuster the 27mm on the main crank is.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 139K
Litchfield Park, AZ






Re: [MBZ] OT-video camera

2005-09-06 Thread Harry  M.
I picked up a HP Photosmart that takes exellent pictures and comes with a 
docking station that links up with a HP printer. The whole package was under 
$300


Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have the Sony HC-21 Handycam and it works great.  With an extra battery 
and some tapes it was about $500.  I compared ease of use(touch screen and 
small size), price and mostly the quality of the lens and the power of the 
zoom.  The Sony excelled in all of them.  My $.02, Mike
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Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:49 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT-video camera


 I'm in the market for a good digital video camera.  I don't want to break
 a budget, but would like a good quality camera, reliable, still shot
 feature, firewire output.  What are good brands/models to look at?  TIA
 all.

 -- 
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Re: [MBZ] OT-video camera

2005-09-06 Thread Gerald R. Flintrop
Is that a video, a still, or a combination?

Jerry   Ö¿Ö
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Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 9:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT-video camera

I picked up a HP Photosmart that takes exellent pictures and comes with a
docking station that links up with a HP printer. The whole package was under
$300








Re: [MBZ] Tightening Connecting Rod bolts.

2005-09-06 Thread Marshall Booth

dave walton wrote:
Any pointers on how to procure a rebuilt engine would be appreciated. My 
local mercedes dealer is useless - on a good day.
It is curious that the cylinder wall rim above the area of travel of the 
top piston ring is roughly as out of round as the area where the piston 
travels. It is possible that I missed a decimal point, but I doubt I'm 
that lucky...
Unfortunately I did not find this list until long after I had purchased 
the car. I appreciate everyone's help and patience.


Try contacting Constanine. He replaced his OM603.97 with a Mercedes 
supplied engine a few months ago. Not sure if it was new or rebuilt, 
long or short block.


Constantine N. Polites [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dave M. had a price sheet, but his site no longer seems to be accessable.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] why do I have to pour gas down my carbs to get my 250 to start?

2005-09-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Thanks, makes sense.  What about the fact though that it doesnt want to 
start even after running a while.  You shut it off, then try to start it 
right away and it doenst seem to get fuel.


Peter Frederick wrote:

Most likely dry carbs (all the gas evaporated) compounded by sticky 
chokes.


Both chokes must close (and open) properly to get good cold starts, and 
if it's been sitting while in the summer, the carbs are going to by 
dry, so you have to crank until they fill.


This scenario will by greatly exacerbated by having ancient, mostly 
diesel fuel gasoline in the tank.  Old gas smells horrible, and most of 
the volatile fraction will have evaporated, making it very hard to 
start the car.


I would recommend DRIVING the car once a week, long enough to keep 
fairly fresh gas in the tank and all the moving parts moving.


Peter


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Re: [MBZ] why do I have to pour gas down my carbs to get my 250 to start?

2005-09-06 Thread LT Don
You replaced the fuses, I assume? 

On 9/6/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thanks, makes sense. What about the fact though that it doesnt want to
 start even after running a while. You shut it off, then try to start it
 right away and it doenst seem to get fuel.
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] 240d park/neutral interlock question

2005-09-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well Im in the middle of a 4 year long swap on my euro project.  The 
euro engine is in, just have to hook everything up now.  Next is my 8 
year long 240D engine swap, followed by my almost a year after the first 
5  year engine swap on another 240D.


OK Don wrote:

I'm a t least a close second - since I'm still in the middle of the year 
and a half engine swap in the SLC -- which is what I've been doing all 
weekend - it sure seems more coplicated than the last swap I did - a 115 
300D.


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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


thats no joke.  I just got done mowing my back yard that was neck high
because I put off mowing it for so long.  The reason being of course is
that I have to move about a dozen cars around when I go to mow the back
yard.



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Re: [MBZ] why do I have to pour gas down my carbs to get my 250

2005-09-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

good place to start, thanks.

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Kaleb,
Sounds like the vent valve is staying open  fuel is evaporating from the float 
bowl.  Leather (IIRC) accel. pump seals dry out and pump little fuel until the bowl 
fills  they swell again.
Mike Boerner
87 300sdl 125k, 87 300d 130k, 01 320ml


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Re: [MBZ] 27mm socket

2005-09-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
right.  You need one with thin walls though so it will fit around the 
fuel return nipples.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


As I recall that is the same size I will need to turn the crankshaft to check
thr cam chain, right?

its a 27mm deep socket

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 What size socket do I need to remove the injecter?


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Re: [MBZ] When Kleb hits NOLA

2005-09-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
It's like a giant size kid's truck. I want one!

On 9/2/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 http://makeashorterlink.com/?H2B331ABB
 
 Bound to need this wonder to get all his new toys home
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Isama Ben Ladin dead (OT, no guns)

2005-09-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
Then by your logic, since the media focusses on the pain, death, 
destruciton, and suffering more than focussing on the overwhelming number of 
survivors, then this proves that the crisis is a creation of the liberal 
media out to get Bush!


 On 9/4/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 It could also be the speed and views of the media on the ground. We
 hit the ground sort of running in Indonesia, and the happy media people
 tell stories of what great good we get done along with the tear stories
 so that the do gooders look gooder.
 
 Media is on the scene, balance shifts to showing what is not getting
 done, instead of the do gooder stories. A little bias goes a long way
 
 On Saturday, September 3, 2005, at 04:06 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote:
 
  Not confirmed, but, how else could it be.
  He died last night from laughing so hard over what the U S A is doing
  right now.
  The LEADER, POLICE and SAVIOR of the free world fails where third
  world countries succeeded: help thy neighbour in dire need.
  I remember the big wave that hit Indonesia last year - we were there
  next day.
  Now it happens in our back yard.
  We watch it on the news and feel sorry for the low lives who should be
  held responsible fortheir neglect to heed warnings, butdemandhelp
  me!, shitin the halls and rapeand loot.
  Isama laughed him self to death, I am crying.
  
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Re: [MBZ] Isama Ben Ladin dead (OT, no guns)

2005-09-06 Thread thargrav
Andrew,

You are correct - its the same type of coverage as Iraq. And I know better. My 
youngest Son was on the ground there and he constantly told us about the good 
that was being done in that country.

Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com

Quoting andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Then by your logic, since the media focusses on the pain, death, 
 destruciton, and suffering more than focussing on the overwhelming
 number of 
 survivors, then this proves that the crisis is a creation of the
 liberal 
 media out to get Bush!
 
 
  On 9/4/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
  It could also be the speed and views of the media on the ground. We
  hit the ground sort of running in Indonesia, and the happy media
 people
  tell stories of what great good we get done along with the tear
 stories
  so that the do gooders look gooder.
  
  Media is on the scene, balance shifts to showing what is not getting
  done, instead of the do gooder stories. A little bias goes a long way
  
  On Saturday, September 3, 2005, at 04:06 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote:
  
   Not confirmed, but, how else could it be.
   He died last night from laughing so hard over what the U S A is
 doing
   right now.
   The LEADER, POLICE and SAVIOR of the free world fails where third
   world countries succeeded: help thy neighbour in dire need.
   I remember the big wave that hit Indonesia last year - we were
 there
   next day.
   Now it happens in our back yard.
   We watch it on the news and feel sorry for the low lives who should
 be
   held responsible fortheir neglect to heed warnings, butdemandhelp
   me!, shitin the halls and rapeand loot.
   Isama laughed him self to death, I am crying.
   
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Re: [MBZ] OT-video camera

2005-09-06 Thread andrew strasfogel
Does Nikon make one?

On 9/6/05, Gerald R. Flintrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Is that a video, a still, or a combination?
 
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 docking station that links up with a HP printer. The whole package was 
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Re: [MBZ] Isama Ben Ladin dead (OT, no guns)

2005-09-06 Thread Bob DuPuy
Hey Andrew,
Why don't you take your negative anti america liberal attitudes and shove 
them up your ass. Either do something to help, lend a positive sugestion 
about what can be done, or shut up.
 Bob DuPuy
Parrish, Fl


[MBZ] stop the e-mail????

2005-09-06 Thread Jwtdiesel
How can I stop the e-mail for a few weeks? Jay




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Re: [MBZ] stop the e-mail????

2005-09-06 Thread LT Don
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Simply select no mail at the appropriate place. 

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Re: [MBZ] stop the e-mail????

2005-09-06 Thread Jwtdiesel
Thanks, Don.




Thank you, Jay 
95 MB E300D 93K The new baby
83 MB 300D 241K The silver coffin
99 Mercury Sable wagon 24 valve 80K 
Cannondale SR500
Allentown,Pa.
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Re: [MBZ] Plate light (failed inspection)

2005-09-06 Thread 72benz250
Hey LT,

Yeah it is working and I did that over the weekend looks like I'll pass the 
inspection today.

I'm just wondering where that connector is and how it's routed.

I prefer to fix things properly than to do a bubba patch ;)

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I assume that the tail lights are working, right?  Why not power the license 
plate lights by tapping into a tail light +12v with an inline splice? That 
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Re: [MBZ] W108 Zenith carb question

2005-09-06 Thread 72benz250
Hey Roberto,

Sounds like your air filter is clogged. When was the last time it was replaced. 
You can try tapping it on the floor. If it leaves a ring of dirt all arround 
then you need a replacement.

Otherwise turning the screw in will make it leaner. Try 1/8 of a turn at a 
time. Too much and you will damage your engine.

Also check your plugs. Black is too rich, white is too lean, brown is just 
right.

Good luck.

-- Original message -- 

 Hello guys 
 
 After a month out on a vacation trip I am back to the list, this time I have 
 a question about mix screw on a doble Zenith carburators of my 280s W108, I 
 know is a sily question but I am a little confuse about what my service 
 manual describe, I use to make a running test in a small hill near home, if 
 I drive the car without the air filter and the air filtes container (I mean 
 the black can over the carbs) the car perfoms very well, but when I put the 
 filter on the car fail in the high end of the power band some kind of lack 
 of something. I friend told me that could be a rich mix (lack of air) so I 
 have to reset the mixrure screw. Wich side turn make the mixture richer?. 
 Greetings 
 
 From the sunny lands of Caracas Venzuela 
 
 Roberto 
 1972 280S W108 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] why do I have to pour gas down my carbs to get my 250 to start?

2005-09-06 Thread 72benz250
Anybody try the seafoam treatment? works very well to clean up gummed up 
carburators.

Kaleb, when gasoline evaporates it leaves behind a varnish. This varnish makes 
everything sticky and blocks up ports.

If the car still runs, go to autozone and pickup some carb cleaner that you add 
to your fuel tank. STP has one, Seafoam is another. drive it around for a few 
days to see if you can get it to clean up and run properly again. If not then 
you need to rebuild the carbs. I just finished working on mine and they are a 
bear.

How old is the gas in the tank? I had 2 year old fuel I had to get rid of. I 
attached one of those 2 gallon emergency tanks to the carburetors and ran 
with that and piped the old fuel to another tank using the mechanical pump.

-- Original message -- 

 Got a 69 250 and have not messed with it too much since I have had it. 
 Used to start it very once in a while and it would usually fire right 
 up. Then it got to where you had to pump the hell out of the pedal then 
 crank it and it would start. Now you have to pour a little gas down the 
 carbs a couple of times then it will start and run. Shut if off and try 
 to restart right away and no start. Dont know a thing about carbs but 
 anybody have any idea what the problem could be? Need to see about a 
 procedure for going thru and setting the carbs up correct. For all I 
 know they might need to be rebuilt. 
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[MBZ] hard to start cold

2005-09-06 Thread 72benz250
Hi all,

This morning I attempted to start my car cold, about 75' this morning and I 
had a miserable time.

I eventualy got tired of trying to crank it, took off the air filter , opened 
the choke to disable the fast idle and she was able to start ok-ish. Stalled 
until she hit about 180 on the gauge.

I think the choke housing is on too tight and making it run too rich. Over the 
past few weeks I have not had any problem firing it up in the upper 90's - 
100's in the afternoon without the filter on. Now with the filter and the 
colder temp is when the problem occurs.

She is running the the vacuum line on advance if that makes any difference.

How tight should the choke be at that temp? should it be closed all the way(2.4 
mm openening)

72 250 M130 W114

George

Re: [MBZ] why do I have to pour gas down my carbs to get my 250 to start?

2005-09-06 Thread LT Don
I use it every spring in my motorcycle. Magic stuff. Brother-in-law also 
reports good results with his old Gold Wing. 

On 9/6/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Anybody try the seafoam treatment? works very well to clean up gummed up 
 carburators.
  
 
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] W108 Zenith carb question

2005-09-06 Thread Don Teresa Merriman
Plug readings work well when using leaded gas, not so good with unleaded, 
the lead left the residue that you could read. Have your friend follow you 
up the hill with  without the filter. Black smoke, too rich, blue smoke a 
oil burner, white smoke is the death smoke of water in the engine. When you 
get tired of trying to make the Zeniths work put on a couple of Webers that 
were designed to replace a crummy carb that Ford put on Pintos. Bolt pattern 
the same, linkage takes some fabrication. I did this conversion years ago 
and it worked bitching.
 Adios Don

 On 9/6/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Hey Roberto,
  Sounds like your air filter is clogged. When was the last time it was 
 replaced. You can try tapping it on the floor. If it leaves a ring of dirt 
 all arround then you need a replacement.
  Otherwise turning the screw in will make it leaner. Try 1/8 of a turn at 
 a time. Too much and you will damage your engine.
  Also check your plugs. Black is too rich, white is too lean, brown is 
 just right.
  Good luck.
   
 -- Original message -- 
 
  Hello guys 
  
  After a month out on a vacation trip I am back to the list, this time I 
 have 
  a question about mix screw on a doble Zenith carburators of my 280s 
 W108, I 
  know is a sily question but I am a little confuse about what my service 
  manual describe, I use to make a running test in a small hill near home, 
 if 
  I drive the car without the air filter and the air filtes container (I 
 mean 
  the black can over the carbs) the car perfoms very well, but when I put 
 the 
  filter on the car fail in the high end of the power band some kind of 
 lack 
  of something. I friend told me that could be a rich mix (lack of air) so 
 I 
  have to reset the mixrure screw. Wich side turn make the mixture 
 richer?. 
  Greetings 
  
  From the sunny lands of Caracas Venzuela 
  
  Roberto 
  1972 280S W108 
  
  
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[MBZ] Steering Vibration

2005-09-06 Thread ned kleinhenz
My '95 E300D (124 body) has an awful steering wheel vibration at ~65 mph. At 
any other speed, very little vibration is noticable.
I rotated the tires front to back and that did not change anything. From a 
web search, I found another list that suggesedt this may be caused by 
failure of the front caster bushings (on a 140).
Does anybody on this list have experience with this problem?

Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2


[MBZ] OT: finding hydraulic fluid

2005-09-06 Thread Sunil Hari
I need to find hydraulic oil for my racket stringer (I swear, I'm not making 
this up). I can't find any where I've looked that meets my specs - looked at 
Lowe's, Advance Auto, and a local transmission shop.

Specs - very lightweight (0, 5 or 10W MAX), with NO detergents or additives 
at all. I need 3 quarts.

Any suggestions as to where I could find some oil that meets these specs? 
I've never bought hydraulic fluid and don't know where to start.

-- 
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1984 MB 300D Turbo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
513-205-7474


Re: [MBZ] OT: finding hydraulic fluid

2005-09-06 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 9/6/2005 9:06:14 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I need  to find hydraulic oil for my racket stringer (I swear, I'm not making 
this  up).  I can't find any where I've looked that meets my specs - looked 
at  Lowe's, Advance Auto, and a local transmission shop.

Specs - very  lightweight (0, 5 or 10W MAX), with NO detergents or additives 
at  all.   I need 3 quarts.

Any suggestions as to where I could  find some oil that meets these specs?  
I've never bought hydraulic fluid  and don't know where to start.



Sunil,
 
Jack oil is hydraulic oil and is available at most any auto parts  store.  
Don't know what the specs are but I suspect your  stringer is an older unit and 
they are concerned about anti foaming,  etc.  If it was mine, I would use 
Mobil 1 ATF and avoid having any  hydraulic fluid on site.
 
If you must have hydraulic, Graingers has an on line catalog with a good  
search engine.  You can usually buy without a wholesalers license by paying  
cash.
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 137 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] OT: finding hydraulic fluid

2005-09-06 Thread Len Sokoloff
You probably want something like Fork Oil, available at bike shops.  I
have some 10W in the garage that I use for the dampers on my Solex
carbs.
 
Len
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunil Hari
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:06 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] OT: finding hydraulic fluid
 
I need to find hydraulic oil for my racket stringer (I swear, I'm not
making this up).  I can't find any where I've looked that meets my specs
- looked at Lowe's, Advance Auto, and a local transmission shop.

Specs - very lightweight (0, 5 or 10W MAX), with NO detergents or
additives at all.   I need 3 quarts.

Any suggestions as to where I could find some oil that meets these
specs?  I've never bought hydraulic fluid and don't know where to start.

-- 
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1984 MB 300D Turbo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [MBZ] OT: finding hydraulic fluid

2005-09-06 Thread Potter, Tom E
Check out the oil sold for hydraulic jacks. It is available at your FLAPS.
 

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sunil Hari
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 11:06 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] OT: finding hydraulic fluid


I need to find hydraulic oil for my racket stringer (I swear, I'm not making 
this up).  I can't find any where I've looked that meets my specs - looked at 
Lowe's, Advance Auto, and a local transmission shop.

Specs - very lightweight (0, 5 or 10W MAX), with NO detergents or additives at 
all.   I need 3 quarts.

Any suggestions as to where I could find some oil that meets these specs?  I've 
never bought hydraulic fluid and don't know where to start.

-- 
Sunil Hari
1984 MB 300D Turbo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
513-205-7474 



Re: [MBZ] Disaster

2005-09-06 Thread Bucks2
How many of us work in large organizations? Or if you know someone who works 
in one ask them about it. Let's imagine a big report is about to go out from 
your New Orleans office. This report is to the shareholders, or the board of 
directors or to whomever you think is an important person in your large 
company. 

The computer that this report is on breaks down. When does the chairman of 
the board get called? Don't you have procedures in place to take care of this? 
Haven't you planned in advance? Do you have backup computers and copies of the 
document? Do you call the IS guy to come and take a look? Do you notify your 
boss of the problem, then he notifies his boss. And if you need more resources 
do you tell your boss who tells his boss and up the chain? 

What would happen if when the computer failed the chairman of the board comes 
in and demands information and tells you what to do? You bow your neck and 
ask what he's doing there before you've even had a chance to try to solve the 
problem, don't you? And what would the chairman do if you called him before you 
even called the IS guy? He'd ask why you weren't following the procedures, 
wouldn't he? 

So let's ask New Orleans why they didn't use those now flooded school busses 
to evacuate the poor, homeless, etc. Let's ask Mayor Nagin why he didn't know 
if Federal help had been requested, as reported in the New York Times story 
where he's berating the president for not sending every greyhound bus. 

Let's ask Governor Blanco of LA why she was haggling over who would be in 
charge of the National Guard units. (you do know that the Governor of each 
state 
is in charge of the National Guard in that state, don't you? SHE didn't send 
them in at the right time) The Feds were asking her to share the authority for 
them to help coordinate the rescue effort.

One sign of the continuing battle over who was in charge was Governor 
Blanco's refusal to sign an agreement proposed by the White House to share 
control 
of National Guard forces with the federal authorities.

Under the white house plan, Lt. Gen Russel L. Honore would oversee both the 
National Guard and the active duty federal troops, reporting jointly to the 
president and Ms. Blanco.

She would lose control when she had been in control from the very 
beginning, said Ms. Bottcher, the governors press secretary.

One of the basics is that New Orleans apparently thought the Feds were going 
to swoop in and save the day without them doing anything for themselves. The 
local ambulance complains about not knowing when some donated choppers were on 
the ground due to poor communications. That's local stuff. 

The feds have told us repeatedly that if my jurisdiction has a problem, we 
need to be self sufficient for at least 2 days while they get set up to help. 
Did they tell NO they'd be there in 2 hours? I doubt it. 

If anyone thinks that the president of the US, the head of FEMA or anyone 
else at that level needs to run out of the room shouting orders, you're sadly 
mistaken. Large organizations move slowly. They can do tremendous things, but 
it 
doesn't happen immediately. You the individual citizen should be self 
sufficient for 3 days. NO wasn't. They are looking for someone to blame other 
than 
themselves. Because of course, we're not responsible for ourselves, are we?

As a side note, 4 of my firefighters are serving on the USAR teams in LA. I 
hope they stay safe and are able to help those in need at this time. 

Ken

In a message dated 9/5/2005 6:04:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Mercedes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Your remarks make me recall the 911 commission report about Ashcroft 
actions . The first plane go into the towers and he is at a meeting 
and told about it the meeting continues... the second aircraft goes 
into the second tower and he is told about it and the meeting goes on 
.. the third aircraft crashes in the Penetigon, where Ashcroft is 
having the meeting, and goes out to the parting lot to look at the 
damage  Recall, Ashcroft is Secretary of Defense and has the job of 
defending the USA .
Bush is frustrated cuz he can't contact the secretary of state to 
get the info about the attack .
You should read the 911 report, it goes far beyond your thinking .

Bill


Re: [MBZ] Tightening Connecting Rod bolts

2005-09-06 Thread Dave M.
Pretty sure Constantine got a factory rebuilt long block. Expect the cost to 
be $6-$7k plus labor  misc parts. Suddenly six conrods doesn't sound as 
expensive, if you already have the engine apart. Photos of that crate engine 
are here:

http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603.970_crate_engine/



Dave's site is up  running but the domain name has changed. The engine 
price PDF at this link, but I haven't updated the prices in a while... 
you'll need to call Rusty for current numbers:

http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/OM60X/OM603_rebuilt_engines.pdf


:-)

Dave M.

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Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 01:23:10 -0400
From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tightening Connecting Rod bolts.

dave walton wrote:
 Any pointers on how to procure a rebuilt engine would be appreciated. My
 local mercedes dealer is useless - on a good day.
 It is curious that the cylinder wall rim above the area of travel of the
 top piston ring is roughly as out of round as the area where the piston
 travels. It is possible that I missed a decimal point, but I doubt I'm
 that lucky...
 Unfortunately I did not find this list until long after I had purchased
 the car. I appreciate everyone's help and patience.

Try contacting Constanine. He replaced his OM603.97 with a Mercedes
supplied engine a few months ago. Not sure if it was new or rebuilt,
long or short block.

Constantine N. Polites [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dave M. had a price sheet, but his site no longer seems to be accessable.

Marshall


Re: [MBZ] Plate light (failed inspection)

2005-09-06 Thread 72benz250
Hey Craig,

This is the way the terminal to the drivers side rear light looks like

AB
| |
1 2
3 4
5 6*

A  B are the Right  Left plate lights they connect through a terminal ( | )  
to connections 1  2. As it stands neither of them have power when the lights 
are on.

6* does have power to the tail light and I have jumped 6 to 1 in order to pass 
the inspection.

The diagram attached shows that there is a connector (43) between the light and 
the dash mounted switch. Full diagram is located at 
http://mb.braingears.com/114_115_Disk1/program/ETM/54_5_8.pdf Hopefuly there is 
a loose connection there and I don't need to tear apart the dash looking for 
the culprit.

Thanks for all your help.

Georgeplatelight.jpg

Re: [MBZ] Steering Vibration

2005-09-06 Thread Dave M.
There are no caster bushings on a 124, that's a 140-specific issue. I
would start by testing the steering shock - disconnect one end and see
how much damping there is, it should take a lot of muscle to move it
in  out. Otherwise look for any play in steering linkages,
particularly the idler arm bushings. Check wheel bearing play too.

Wouldn't hurt to get the wheels balanced on a good machine like a
Hunter GSP9700. Make sure your wheels have weights on the inside AND
outside (dynamic balance), not a single weight in the center (static
balance). A lot of shops do static balance on alloy wheels because
they think people would rather have nasty vibrations than look at a
little lead weight clipped on the outside edge where everyone can see
it. (My word, what a fashion faux pas THAT would be!) Every time I get
my wheels balanced I need to make sure I explicitly ask for this and
they always look at me like I'm nuts for wanting a weight on the
outside, but it's been the only way I can get a smooth ride. The MB
2-piece weights are sweet, they don't damage the wheel.

=)

-Dave M.

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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:00:54 -0400
From: ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Steering Vibration

 
 My '95 E300D (124 body) has an awful steering wheel vibration at ~65 mph. At
 any other speed, very little vibration is noticable.
 I rotated the tires front to back and that did not change anything. From a
 web search, I found another list that suggesedt this may be caused by
 failure of the front caster bushings (on a 140).
 Does anybody on this list have experience with this problem?
 
 Ned Kleinhenz
 '95 E300D x2



Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting

2005-09-06 Thread redghost

He did unspeakable things to a cigar.  That is unforgivable

On Monday, September 5, 2005, at 08:48 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:


Alan Duff wrote:

From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The New Orleans Times-Picayune has published an open letter to the
President:



You Bush haters are a sad, bitter lot.


I find it amusing when Republicans complain about that, considering
their hate of Clinton is so strong and irrational that they're *still*
finding things to blame on him.

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Re: [MBZ] Isama Ben Ladin dead (OT, no guns)

2005-09-06 Thread redghost
Nope, just that what they choose to show is not the happy helpers that 
are doing work, but the horrific destruction.  Both are true, one gets 
more airtime and thus tells a less balanced story.  This morning we get 
the stories of people who did get off their duff and with what little 
was available before outside help arrived had set up solutions.   No 
more blood and tears to shoot, so lets do the happy stories


On Tuesday, September 6, 2005, at 06:00 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Then by your logic, since the media focusses on the pain, death, 
destruciton, and suffering more than focussing on the overwhelming 
number of survivors, then this proves that the crisis is a creation 
of the liberal media out to get Bush!



 
On 9/4/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It could also be the speed and views of the media on the ground.  We
hit the ground sort of running in Indonesia, and the happy media people
tell stories of what great good we get done along with the tear stories
so that the do gooders look gooder.

Media is on the scene, balance shifts to showing what is not getting
done, instead of the do gooder stories.  A little bias goes a long way

On Saturday, September 3, 2005, at 04:06 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote:

 Not confirmed, but, how else could it be.
 He died last night from laughing so hard over what the U S A is doing
 right now.
 The LEADER, POLICE and SAVIOR of the free world fails where third
 world countries succeeded: help thy neighbour in dire need.
 I remember the big wave that hit Indonesia last year - we were there
 next day.
 Now it happens in our back yard.
 We watch it on the news and feel sorry for the low lives who should 
be

 held responsible fortheir neglect to heed warnings, butdemandhelp
 me!, shitin the halls and rapeand loot.
 Isama laughed him self to death, I am crying.



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Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




[MBZ] Need valve for self-levelling system

2005-09-06 Thread David Bruckmann

Hello gang,

My SLS valve gave up, and they appear to be unobtanium at the moment; 
out of stock at Rusty's suppliers and no ETA. Ditto in Canada.


If anyone has a valve in reasonable shape (I don't care if the car 
sagged or whatever... as long as it isn't corroded to hell), I'd be 
interested in relieving you of it.


D.



Re: [MBZ] Isama Ben Ladin dead (OT, no guns)

2005-09-06 Thread redghost

1984

We see what the press shows, and read what the media provides.  If the 
Afro-Asian conglomerate is attacking us, we are at peace with the 
Austro-pacific Hegemony.  All we see is the war, not the feel good 
stories



On Tuesday, September 6, 2005, at 06:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Andrew,

You are correct - its the same type of coverage as Iraq. And I know 
better. My
youngest Son was on the ground there and he constantly told us about 
the good

that was being done in that country.

Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com

Quoting andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Then by your logic, since the media focusses on the pain, death,
destruciton, and suffering more than focussing on the overwhelming
number of
survivors, then this proves that the crisis is a creation of the
liberal
media out to get Bush!


 On 9/4/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It could also be the speed and views of the media on the ground. We
hit the ground sort of running in Indonesia, and the happy media

people

tell stories of what great good we get done along with the tear

stories

so that the do gooders look gooder.

Media is on the scene, balance shifts to showing what is not getting
done, instead of the do gooder stories. A little bias goes a long way

On Saturday, September 3, 2005, at 04:06 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote:


Not confirmed, but, how else could it be.
He died last night from laughing so hard over what the U S A is

doing

right now.
The LEADER, POLICE and SAVIOR of the free world fails where third
world countries succeeded: help thy neighbour in dire need.
I remember the big wave that hit Indonesia last year - we were

there

next day.
Now it happens in our back yard.
We watch it on the news and feel sorry for the low lives who should

be

held responsible fortheir neglect to heed warnings, butdemandhelp
me!, shitin the halls and rapeand loot.
Isama laughed him self to death, I am crying.

Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D
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Re: [MBZ] Disaster

2005-09-06 Thread David Brodbeck
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:32:00 EDT, Bucks2 wrote
 If anyone thinks that the president of the US, the head of FEMA or anyone 
 else at that level needs to run out of the room shouting orders, you're sadly 
 mistaken. Large organizations move slowly. They can do tremendous things, but 
 it doesn't happen immediately.

Yes, but people saw this problem coming literally miles away.  Would it have 
been reasonable to expect them to prepare ahead, so that they could have given 
help immediately when it was asked for?  Instead, key people were on vacation 
or shopping for shoes and going to musicals.  If the company I worked for saw a 
potential disaster coming they'd want me nearby and on call.  I think it's 
reasonable to expect the same of our government officials.

 


[MBZ] [OT Oly, WA only] '03 TDI JETTA compatible VAG COM

2005-09-06 Thread David Goldsmith
Any listers in the Oly, WA area got an '03 TDI JETTA
compatible VAG-COM I can visit you to use?  Thanks!

DG

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Re: [MBZ] 27mm socket

2005-09-06 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As I recall that is the same size I will need to turn the crankshaft to check
 thr cam chain, right?
 
 its a 27mm deep socket
 
  -
  What size socket do I need to remove the injecter?

A 1-1/16 inch socket will also work.

A word of caution though!

Many of the sockets that I looked at have a shoulder inside that the
upper-body of the injector runs into. I finally found a 3/4 drive
impact socket that had the necessary clearance.

Also, injector bodys can be slightly different. The extra clearance the
long-sought-after socket had over the ordinary socket was only
necessary for 3 of the replacement injectors. All of the old ones, an a
couple of the new ones worked fine with a standard deep socket.

Anyway, you may be fine - but if you happen to have one of those short
hex section injectors you might have to hunt for a suitable socket.

   Philip, tool collector



Re: [MBZ] Isama Ben Ladin dead (OT, no guns)

2005-09-06 Thread Gerald R. Flintrop
Bob,

 

How can he “shove”, as you suggest? His head is already occupying that
space.

 

Jerry   Ö¿Ö

~

 

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On Behalf Of Bob DuPuy
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 7:21 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Isama Ben Ladin dead (OT, no guns)

 



Hey Andrew,

Why don't you take your negative anti america liberal attitudes and shove
them up your ass. Either do something to help, lend a positive sugestion
about what can be done, or shut up.

 

Bob DuPuy

Parrish, Fl



Re: [MBZ] Need valve for self-levelling system

2005-09-06 Thread Marshall Booth

David Bruckmann wrote:

Hello gang,

My SLS valve gave up, and they appear to be unobtanium at the moment; 
out of stock at Rusty's suppliers and no ETA. Ditto in Canada.


If anyone has a valve in reasonable shape (I don't care if the car 
sagged or whatever... as long as it isn't corroded to hell), I'd be 
interested in relieving you of it.


Pretty sure that Meade Dillon has/had (2 weeks ago) a used one.

Now I've got 
two old valves to play with, going to see if I can fix those and sell them 
on Ebay.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[MBZ] hard to start cold

2005-09-06 Thread Mike Boerner
How tight should the choke be at that temp? should it be closed all the
way(2.4 mm openening)

George,
I'm pretty sure there's a specified choke gap adjustment.  That said, the
choke gap clearance depends on the choke heater covers being set at their
index marks, the choke actuating rods (tensioned by the choke heater cover)
being set correctly (at the rod/setscrew interface at the top of the rod),
and the choke vacuum pull-off being set correctly (locknut and set-screw in
vicinity of rod).  This should only take a week or so to straighten out.
Good luck.
Mike Boerner
87 300sdl 125K; 87 300d 135k; 01 320ml 38k




Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers

2005-09-06 Thread Marshall Booth

OK Don wrote:
So, why are the 115 220Ds getting 6 to 10 more mpg than a 123 240D? The 
240D isn't THAT much larger an engine, and the 123 might be a tad 
lighter than a 115?


Most 220Ds are not routinely getting 6-10 mpg better mpg than 240Ds 
unless driven very differently. Many fewer W115 220D/240Ds were 
automatics (most of the W115 automatics have been retired). A manual 
transmission accounts for 10-15% improvement in economy. Some 220Ds 
didn't have power steering and they were a little lighter. The smaller 
engine in a lighter car DID give a little better (27.75 mpg for the 220D 
vs 24.75 for the 240D both in a W115 chassis or ~ 12% - those are 
Mercedes' numbers) economy all other things being equal. A 220D was 
about 3 seconds slower 0-60 than a 240D.


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Re: [MBZ] Disaster

2005-09-06 Thread Bucks2
You have good points. Let's think about them though. 

saw the problem coming miles away.  Yes, they knew it would hit somewhere. 
But as hurricanes come ashore they move. So, you move your rescue equipment 
OUT of the area likely to be hit so it would be ready when needed. The local 
government should be implementing plans to get people out of the area. The 
Mayor 
and Governor should have taken an active role in moving people. If you've seen 
the pictures of the flooded busses you just have to ask why they weren't used 
to move people out of the area. Have you seen all the flooded and ruined 
cars? Why weren't they used to remove people?  On the news today we are seeing 
many interviews with people saying things aren't all that bad and that they 
don't 
want to leave. 

they could have given help immediately when it was asked for?? There is 
some question about when the governor asked for assistance. Until that answer 
is 
given, I'm not too sure that the delay was caused by the Feds. The mayor says 
he doesn't know when or even if help was requested. I'm sure there is a record 
somewhere of when the Governor asked for help. That will be a big part of the 
inquiry. Disasters are local problems, the Feds only come in when requested. 
There is much controversy whenever the Feds require a state to do something. 
Remember the states rights controversy that pops up every so often.

key people were on vacation or shopping for shoes and going to musicals.? If 
the company I worked for saw a potential disaster coming they'd want me 
nearby and on call.? I think it's reasonable to expect the same of our 
government 
officials.  Nearby and on call? You don't think that Bush/Rice/Rumsfeld/etc. 
are putting on boots and sloshing through the water do you? They aren't 
responders, they are administrative people. They approve expenditures. That can 
and 
is done by telephone. Condi Rice, I'll bet a paycheck, is NEVER out of 
telephone range. You know the president isn't. There is no such thing as 
vacation 
away from work in those positions. While the media would like you to think that 
they were fiddleing while rome burned, what exactly did you want them to do? 
Does the top dog in your company come to the scene and tell you what to do? Or 
do you follow premade plans on how to solve problems until the scope of the 
problem is known, you relay the info to the leaders and then a more precise 
plan 
is worked out? Are you more concerned that Condi was buying shoes or that she 
was buying expensive shoes? Would it have made a difference if she was buying 
hip boots? 

Ken 



In a message dated 9/6/2005 11:56:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Disaster
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:32:00 EDT, Bucks2 wrote
 If anyone thinks that the president of the US, the head of FEMA or anyone 
else at that level needs to run out of the room shouting orders, you're sadly 
mistaken. Large organizations move slowly. They can do tremendous things, but 
it doesn't happen immediately.

Yes, but people saw this problem coming literally miles away.??Would?it have 
been reasonable to expect them to prepare ahead, so that they could have given 
help immediately when it was asked for?? Instead, key people were on vacation 
or shopping for shoes and going to musicals.? If the company I worked for saw 
a potential disaster coming they'd want me nearby and on call.? I think it's 
reasonable to expect the same of our government officials.


Re: [MBZ] [OT Oly, WA only] '03 TDI JETTA compatible VAG COM

2005-09-06 Thread Zeitgeist
I think there are only two or maybe three listers total here in
Olympia, and I don't have one.  Did you post this request over on the
tdi club site?

On 9/6/05, David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Any listers in the Oly, WA area got an '03 TDI JETTA
 compatible VAG-COM I can visit you to use?  Thanks!

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (208k)
'84 300D (203k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)



Re: [MBZ] [OT Oly, WA only] '03 TDI JETTA compatible VAG COM

2005-09-06 Thread David Goldsmith
Yeah, two different places (I waited a couple days
after the first post before cross-posting) and also to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], all before posting here; no
positive responses yet.  Thanks.

DG

--- Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think there are only two or maybe three listers
 total here in
 Olympia, and I don't have one.  Did you post this
 request over on the
 tdi club site?
 
 On 9/6/05, David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Any listers in the Oly, WA area got an '03 TDI
 JETTA
  compatible VAG-COM I can visit you to use? 
 Thanks!
 
 Casey
 Olympia, WA
 Biodiesel:
 '87 300TD intercooler (208k)
 '84 300D (203k)
 Gashuffer:
 '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)
 
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Re: [MBZ] Disaster

2005-09-06 Thread David Brodbeck
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 15:26:58 EDT, Bucks2 wrote 
 The local government should be implementing plans to get people out of
 the area.

Certainly I agree.  I'm not sure any local government has the resources to 
pull that off without federal help, though, especially in this era of tight 
budgets.

 There is much controversy whenever the Feds require a state to do
 something. Remember the states rights controversy that pops up every
 so often.

A lot of the controversy comes in because the feds often require states to 
do things without providing any funding for it.  States rights is just an 
excuse for inaction; neither party really believes in it unless it's 
momentarily convenient for them.

 Are you more concerned that Condi was buying shoes or that she was buying
 expensive shoes? Would it have made a difference if she was buying
 hip boots?

I don't care if she was buying flip-flops, frankly.  The point is she wasn't 
in a position to do the most good.  No amount of communications technology 
can substitute for being physically in the office with key people, when it 
comes to getting things done.  Besides, it sends a political message when a 
disaster happens and people in charge simply go on with their personal 
recreation.  It looks bad; it says those people are beneath our notice.  
They aren't even worth interrupting a vacation for.  (And for the record, I 
disagree with the people who are playing the race card, here.  The people 
stranded in New Orleans weren't ignored because they were black; they were 
ignored because they were *poor*.)

While Condi was busy watching Spamalot, Al Gore actually got off his duff 
and chartered a relief flight.  That's leadership.



Re: [MBZ] [OT Oly, WA only] '03 TDI JETTA compatible VAG COM

2005-09-06 Thread Zeitgeist
Did you trip a fault code?  If I had kept my '96 Passat, I'd of picked
up the VAG-COM myself.  I wanted to bypass the EGR to avoid coking up
the intake, which requires that the computer be tricked into accepting
this as normal operation.  Good luck.

On 9/6/05, David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah, two different places (I waited a couple days
 after the first post before cross-posting) and also to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], all before posting here; no
 positive responses yet.  Thanks.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (208k)
'84 300D (203k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)



Re: [MBZ] OT: finding hydraulic fluid

2005-09-06 Thread Sunil Hari
My stringer is from the late 60s/early 70s. Weighs more than a hundred 
pounds - got a huge motor, hydraulic reservoir, and solid iron parts.

Is Mobil 1 ATF thin enough? Also, why would they be so adamant in mandating 
no detergents or additives? 

Also, I checked at my local auto parts stores, and all they seem to carry is 
something called 32. It has a bunch of additives and detergents in it.

On 9/6/05, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Check out the oil sold for hydraulic jacks. It is available at your FLAPS.
  
 Thomas E. Potter
 Telephone: (713) 215-2877
 Fax: (713) 215-2551
 Mobile: (832) 794-0536
 
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 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
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 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2005 11:06 AM
 *To:* Mercedes mailing list
 *Subject:* [MBZ] OT: finding hydraulic fluid
 
 I need to find hydraulic oil for my racket stringer (I swear, I'm not 
 making this up). I can't find any where I've looked that meets my specs - 
 looked at Lowe's, Advance Auto, and a local transmission shop.
 
 Specs - very lightweight (0, 5 or 10W MAX), with NO detergents or 
 additives at all. I need 3 quarts.
 
 Any suggestions as to where I could find some oil that meets these specs? 
 I've never bought hydraulic fluid and don't know where to start.
 
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 1984 MB 300D Turbo
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[MBZ] 300TD

2005-09-06 Thread frederick w moir

Hi,All. 
Local Want Ad.
	85 300TD New starter. alt., calipers,rotors and muffler sys. Gray w/tan 
int. 220k miles Many extra parts. $700 Motivated seller.

 E mail is better. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jefferson MA) 508-829-7358

	83 300TD Runs. Gd for parts. Midnight blue w/blue int. 200k miles $150 OBO 
E mail is better [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Jefferson MA) 508-829-7358

 FYI. this is in tin worm country.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA





Re: [MBZ] Disaster

2005-09-06 Thread BenzBarn
Seems to be a responsible view - everyone looking out for themselves in case a 
disaster strikes. Makes good sense really...

However, look at what happened. The State level of government was just as 
smashed up as everything around it. It would seem that after they went through 
the storm it sort of washed away any logic along with it. The federal 
government has a play in this but I'm not American so I'm not sure what that is.

So, you hunker down with 5 or 6 days worth of food and water. Everything looks 
bad and then when the dam breaks you find that your house is sitting in 10 feet 
of water. You move upstairs or in the attic to get away from certain death. 
Your food and water is down stairs in the fridge where it's now contaminated 
and you couldn't get to it anyway.So much for being prepared.

A few years ago we had an ice storm that covered most of eastern Ontario and 
Quebec. The main power lines all fell down and most of the area was with power 
for quite a while. The army was in there by the next day or so. Anyone needing 
power for essential services were donated generators to keep things going. 
Anyone who heated with wood wasn't too bad off and some people even stayed in 
their barns with livestock just to stay warm. Travel in this area was almost 
impossible with heavy sheets of ice covering everything. People were 
uncomfortable, frustrated and worried but for the most part they felt 
reasonably safe. I don't think there was too much looting.
In short - everyone pulled together. There was almost no fore warning for this 
storm and few people had more than what you or I would have around the house at 
any given time as far as supplies go. Oddly, candles were in short supply along 
with flashlight batteries which we shipped in by the truck load.
 Few people really understand what it's like to go without power for a few 
weeks. In the winter everything will freeze solid after a day or so. You can 
move to a place down the road or to a shelter but you may come back to nothing 
if there isn't any law and order in the area.

Up here if things get too out of hand the PM invokes the War Measures Act. It 
happened before in about 1970 when the FLQ got out of control in Quebec. People 
were rounded up and there was martial law from what I remember.


Re: [MBZ] 27mm socket

2005-09-06 Thread Marshall Booth

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

As I recall that is the same size I will need to turn the crankshaft to check
thr cam chain, right?

its a 27mm deep socket

 -
 What size socket do I need to remove the injecter?


You can use a 27 mm OR a 1 1/16 (1 1/16=26.99 mm). I've been using a 
Sears Craftsman deep socket 1 1/16 for doing injectors and crank 
sockets for about 40 years.


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[MBZ] W124 sunroof kaput

2005-09-06 Thread Dave M.
Hi all,

I just had a sickening experience... hearing unnatural noises when
trying to open my sunroof (down  back) from a popped-up state.
Something is broken but I can't tell what exactly. There's a bar that
goes across the width, on the rear of the opening... the left side
moves back, the right side stays put. Right now it's stuck/jammed in
the popped-up state, which I guess is better than wide open, but still
doesn't make the car useful in wet weather. Fiddling with it, I can
get the left side to lower partially but not the right. Anyone have
tips on how to get it closed without screwing things up worse? At the
moment I'd be content with getting it shut and then disconnecting the
motor.

I know the general wisdom is to NOT attempt a DIY repair, and take it
directly to a shop that knows how to fix this type of sunroof (very
different than the simple, old W123 style). I'm probably going to end
up doing that but not right away, if possible. I looked up the prices
for some of the parts, and if it needs a new frame (eek), cost of
everything will be $1000 *wholesale* - plus labor!!! (The old frame
was superceded to a new style, which requires a half-dozen extra
updated items, hence the higher cost.)

BTW - this is on my 87 300D. The updated sunroofs started, I think, in
late 1987 model year. Hmm... maybe I could rape the sunroof mechanism
from my parts car! Anyone attemped a DIY repair on these and lived to
tell the story?

:-(

-- 
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Boise, ID
1994 E500 - 94kmi  (Q-ship)
1987 300D - 258kmi (Sportline)



Re: [MBZ] [OT Oly, WA only] '03 TDI JETTA compatible VAG COM

2005-09-06 Thread David Goldsmith
The full story: very shortly after getting my car back
from Dr. Dan's last Thurs., the Check Engine light
came on, so I quickly brought it back to him.  His
VAG-COM returned a glow plug #3 problem, which he
reported is a very common problem on that car.  But
upon checking it (removing it and sending a current
through it), it appeared to be working fine (it glowed
orange-red), so he put it back in, reset my onboard
diagnostic computer, and sent me on my merry way.  I
got back to Oly without the check engine light
reawakening, but the next day my wife reports that
it's lit again.  I was going to take the car (my
wife's) back to Dr. Dan's today, but she needed it
down in Oly, so I thought I'd continue to try to find
someone down in Oly I could prevail upon to see if
it's still complaining about GP3 before taking it back
to Dan's, probably tomorrow.  Thanks!

DG

--- Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did you trip a fault code?  If I had kept my '96
 Passat, I'd of picked
 up the VAG-COM myself.  I wanted to bypass the EGR
 to avoid coking up
 the intake, which requires that the computer be
 tricked into accepting
 this as normal operation.  Good luck.
 
 On 9/6/05, David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Yeah, two different places (I waited a couple days
  after the first post before cross-posting) and
 also to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], all before posting here;
 no
  positive responses yet.  Thanks.
 
 Casey
 Olympia, WA
 Biodiesel:
 '87 300TD intercooler (208k)
 '84 300D (203k)
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Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers

2005-09-06 Thread Kevin
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:51:04PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 I drove my wrecked 72 220D stick up and down the street today.  Hell, if 
 it wasnt for the rust I would put a new hood and grille on that thing 
 and keep it.

You probably have a hood and grille in the yard somewhere you can bolt
on it, then drive it until the fenders rust off. Then pull the hood, grille,
and driveline for another car...

K



Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers

2005-09-06 Thread Kevin
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 07:16:21PM -0700, Zeitgeist wrote:
 My '73 220D w/powersteering never got less than 30 mpg, and I'm a bit
 puzzled that the 123 series cars get less than that.  My'87 300TD has
 never gotten less than 26 mpg (usually no less than 30 mpg) and the
 '84 300D seems to consistently get between 24 and 25 mpg.

Of the four in the family,
85 190D 2.2 five speed - 40-41 mpg before pirellis were installed, about 36-38
afterwards (tires too sticky).
87 300D - 30-32 mpg depending on drive before head swap. mileage would probably
be better if I fixed that leaky return hose or injector or whatnot, it's about
the same right now.
87 300TD - 26-27 mpg, for some reason this car always got way low mileage.
78 300D (brother's car) - 18-22 mpg, not even consistent, but mostly driven 
around town. whether or not he has to take the freeway or not probably explains
the wide range, but I was certainly expecting better from this car.

 The location of that oil filter made me NOT want to drive it and
 accumulate enough miles to necessitate an RR--evil placement, that.

I've mostly shyed away from 115s for that reason, and the heater motor. I
can't imagine the oil filter being any worse to get at than on a 2000 taurus
with the 24v engine, though...

 btw: it's nice to wander off topic and discuss MBs for a change.

I agree.

K



Re: [MBZ] why do I have to pour gas down my carbs to get my 250 to start?

2005-09-06 Thread Kevin
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:50:07PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Got a 69 250 and have not messed with it too much since I have had it. 
 Used to start it very once in a while and it would usually fire right 
 up.  Then it got to where you had to pump the hell out of the pedal then 
 crank it and it would start.  Now you have to pour a little gas down the 
 carbs a couple of times then it will start and run.  Shut if off and try 
 to restart right away and no start.  Dont know a thing about carbs but 
 anybody have any idea what the problem could be?  Need to see about a 
 procedure for going thru and setting the carbs  up correct.  For all I 
 know they might need to be rebuilt.

Sound all gummed up to me, and like everyone else said, you probably
have old gas in the tank which isn't making anything any better.

Provided there aren't soft parts inside the carb, and provided you have dealt
with the stale gas issue, blasting the snot out of both carbs with carb
cleaner will likely solve the problem. DO NOT DO THIS IF PARTS OF THE CARB
AREN'T FRIENDLY WITH CARB CLEANER, like a variable venturi ford, and don't
ask how I know that (at least it wasn't me or my car, I was just making sure
the beer didn't get warm).

The fact that it will continue to run after gas was poured down it rules
out a fuel pump, the engine would die immediately after running the carb
dry if it was the fuel pump. The problem is either the carbs themselves
being dirty, or bad fuel.

K



Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers

2005-09-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Kevin wrote:
 85 190D 2.2 five speed - 40-41 mpg before pirellis were installed, about 36-38
 afterwards (tires too sticky).

Are the new tires larger diameter than the old?
Did the new tires come with an alignment job? Did they botch the toe-in?



Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers

2005-09-06 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 05:21:33PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote:
 Kevin wrote:
  85 190D 2.2 five speed - 40-41 mpg before pirellis were installed, about 
  36-38
  afterwards (tires too sticky).
 
 Are the new tires larger diameter than the old?
 Did the new tires come with an alignment job? Did they botch the toe-in?

Same diameter (within a few mm), same alignment. Used wheels on rims that
were a lot cleaner, just the tires are way wider (205 instead of 175) and 
a lot sticker (pirelli p4000s compared to bottom of the line goodyears). A
set of marshall's favorite X-1s would easily solve the problem, but they're
NLA.

Those tires are almost dead (bought the rims more than the tires), so I'll
have some experimenting to do.

K



Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers

2005-09-06 Thread Mitch Haley
Kevin wrote:
  Kevin wrote:
   85 190D 2.2 five speed - 40-41 mpg before pirellis were installed, about 
   36-38
   afterwards (tires too sticky).
 
 Same diameter (within a few mm), same alignment. Used wheels on rims that
 were a lot cleaner, just the tires are way wider (205 instead of 175) 

I suspect it's the width. Going from 165/80-13 to 195/60-14 on a Plymouth
Horizon cost me over one mpg.



Re: [MBZ] [OT Oly, WA only] '03 TDI JETTA compatible VAG COM

2005-09-06 Thread redghost

I bet the http://forums.biodieselnow.com/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=8

would have a large bunch of tdi types to ask

On Tuesday, September 6, 2005, at 12:36 PM, David Goldsmith wrote:


Yeah, two different places (I waited a couple days
after the first post before cross-posting) and also to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], all before posting here; no
positive responses yet.  Thanks.

DG

--- Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I think there are only two or maybe three listers
total here in
Olympia, and I don't have one.  Did you post this
request over on the
tdi club site?

On 9/6/05, David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Any listers in the Oly, WA area got an '03 TDI

JETTA

compatible VAG-COM I can visit you to use?

Thanks!

Casey
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Biodiesel:
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'84 300D (203k)
Gashuffer:
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Re: [MBZ] W124 sunroof kaput

2005-09-06 Thread Kevin J. Slater
Go ahead Marshall, you tell him..

...Kevin

Dave M. wrote:

Hi all,

I just had a sickening experience... hearing unnatural noises when
trying to open my sunroof (down  back) from a popped-up state.
Something is broken but I can't tell what exactly. There's a bar that
goes across the width, on the rear of the opening... the left side
moves back, the right side stays put. Right now it's stuck/jammed in
the popped-up state, which I guess is better than wide open, but still
doesn't make the car useful in wet weather. Fiddling with it, I can
get the left side to lower partially but not the right. Anyone have
tips on how to get it closed without screwing things up worse? At the
moment I'd be content with getting it shut and then disconnecting the
motor.

I know the general wisdom is to NOT attempt a DIY repair, and take it
directly to a shop that knows how to fix this type of sunroof (very
different than the simple, old W123 style). I'm probably going to end
up doing that but not right away, if possible. I looked up the prices
for some of the parts, and if it needs a new frame (eek), cost of
everything will be $1000 *wholesale* - plus labor!!! (The old frame
was superceded to a new style, which requires a half-dozen extra
updated items, hence the higher cost.)

BTW - this is on my 87 300D. The updated sunroofs started, I think, in
late 1987 model year. Hmm... maybe I could rape the sunroof mechanism
from my parts car! Anyone attemped a DIY repair on these and lived to
tell the story?

:-(

  





Re: [MBZ] Disaster

2005-09-06 Thread Bucks2
From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Disaster
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 15:26:58 EDT, Bucks2 wrote 
 The local government should be implementing plans to get people out of
 the area.

Certainly I agree.  I'm not sure any local government has the resources to 
pull that off without federal help, though, especially in this era of tight 
budgets.
The buses were parked in the lot. The diesel fuel, now unusable, was in the 
tanks. That takes no resources. 


 There is much controversy whenever the Feds require a state to do
 something. Remember the states rights controversy that pops up every
 so often.

A lot of the controversy comes in because the feds often require states to 
do things without providing any funding for it.  States rights is just an 
excuse for inaction; neither party really believes in it unless it's 
momentarily convenient for them.
I agree. 


 Are you more concerned that Condi was buying shoes or that she was buying
 expensive shoes? Would it have made a difference if she was buying
 hip boots?

I don't care if she was buying flip-flops, frankly.  The point is she wasn't 
in a position to do the most good.  No amount of communications technology 
can substitute for being physically in the office with key people, when it 
comes to getting things done.  Besides, it sends a political message when a 
disaster happens and people in charge simply go on with their personal 
recreation.  It looks bad; it says those people are beneath our notice.  
They aren't even worth interrupting a vacation for.  (And for the record, I 
disagree with the people who are playing the race card, here.  The people 
stranded in New Orleans weren't ignored because they were black; they were 
ignored because they were *poor*.)
And what did she do? Did she finish what she was doing in that store and go 
back to her office in Washington? Are you saying she should have dropped the 
shoes she was trying on and ran out? 


While Condi was busy watching Spamalot, Al Gore actually got off his duff 
and chartered a relief flight.  That's leadership.
Who paid for Al's flight? And what did he put on it? I haven't heard anything 
about that. Please tell me more. 

Ken


Re: [MBZ] Disaster

2005-09-06 Thread redghost
WTF is Condi even getting involved in a DOMESTIC issue?  The woman is 
the SECRETARY OF STATE!  She deals with foreign weenies and disasters, 
not local monkey shines.  I will grant that the Governor of LA has 
acted like it is some third world nation not aligned with USA, but 
Condi has nothing to do with the whole thing.


I have no expectation that should I need heart surgery, my mailman 
shows up, unless it is to deliver mail.  I want the cardiologist and 
his crew there.


On Tuesday, September 6, 2005, at 02:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 While Condi was busy watching Spamalot, Al Gore actually got off his 
duff

and chartered a relief flight.  That's leadership.


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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Re: [MBZ] Disaster

2005-09-06 Thread Bucks2
Good thought except that your emergency supplies are canned goods. When you 
put away emergency supplies you don't know if the emergency is going to knock 
out electricity so if they require cold then you've put the wrong stuff away. 
When you move upstairs you take your supplies with you so now you're just a 
little higher with adequate supplies. 

I live in earthquake country so my fire dept. has a borchure which says:

Store 1 gallon of water per person per day, (3 day minimum)
Non-perishable food for each person - foods that require no refrigeration, 
cooking, or preparation. Rotate the food supply every 6 months.
Keep a 7 day supply of medication on hand at all times
First aid kit 
Unscented household bleach to purify water
Battery operated radio
Bedding, 
Family documents in waterproof containers
extra food etc. for pets
Etc. 

In addition there is another booklet prepared for Y2K which tells how to turn 
off power supply, natural gas, etc. All is available free from your local 
authorities. 


In a message dated 9/6/2005 1:49:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, you hunker down with 5 or 6 days worth of food and water. Everything 
looks bad and then when the dam breaks you find that your house is sitting in 
10 
feet of water. You move upstairs or in the attic to get away from certain 
death. Your food and water is down stairs in the fridge where it's now 
contaminated 
and you couldn't get to it anyway.So much for being prepared.


Re: [MBZ] a question for LT don and other 240D drivers

2005-09-06 Thread Marshall Booth

Kevin wrote:

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 05:21:33PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote:


Kevin wrote:


85 190D 2.2 five speed - 40-41 mpg before pirellis were installed, about 36-38
afterwards (tires too sticky).


Are the new tires larger diameter than the old?
Did the new tires come with an alignment job? Did they botch the toe-in?



Same diameter (within a few mm), same alignment. Used wheels on rims that
were a lot cleaner, just the tires are way wider (205 instead of 175) and 
a lot sticker (pirelli p4000s compared to bottom of the line goodyears). A

set of marshall's favorite X-1s would easily solve the problem, but they're
NLA.

Those tires are almost dead (bought the rims more than the tires), so I'll
have some experimenting to do.


If you have 14 wheels (as some early '85s did) then the size I would 
choose  is 185/70x14 (the factory sized them at 175/70x14, but the 
speedometer on the three 201.122 I've owned have been perfect with 
185s). If you have 15 wheels then 185/65x15s are correct. A 195 or 
205/60x15 or 195/65x15 will cost you 1-2 mpg. Run the fronts at 30-32 
psi and the rears at ~36-38 psi. Any lower WILL cost you mpg.


With the recent fuel shortage (even before the Gulf shut down) poor 
quality fuel has cut mpg by 2-4 mpg in MY cars.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] LobstaQ

2005-09-06 Thread Christopher McCann
not sure...think 75 and 76

Christopher

--- Harry  M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Was it 74 and 75 or 75 and 76 they were made ?
 
 Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 My editor has a Cosworth Vega - there is a sizeable
 Cosworth Vega following. I think only 4,000 or so
 were
 made over two years.
 
 CM
 
 --- Harry  M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Oh man, I was hoping I read that right. Guess I
  shouldn't be embarresed to say I owned a Vega.
 Seem
  to recall though there was one very desirable
 model
  called the cosworth vega. Ah yes, the ford
 trilogy
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[MBZ] trans leak

2005-09-06 Thread Luther Gulseth
my '83 SD has been eating trans fluidseems to be about 1/2 pint every  
1000 miles, maybe more, I'm not sure.  WHare are the possible locations  
for the leak?  My pan gasket looks clean so I'm clueless about where to  
look now.  Are there common leak points on these trans?  TIA all,


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'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)



Re: [MBZ] hard to start cold

2005-09-06 Thread Peter Frederick

Typically the chokes should be closed at 70 F.

They must close completely, but unload at full throttle part way open 
(so you can keep it from flooding).


Check fast idle cam (this won't affect starting, but will cause it to 
stall til it warms up from too low idle), chokes (both carbs), mixture 
(too lean and it won't start, set with a CO meter) and carb balance.


Also verify that you have proper accelerator pump delivery -- if they 
aren't working right, it will be hard to start.


Dead gas must be drained or driven out, too

Verify that you have equal vaccum on both carbs and that the valves are 
adjusted correctly.


One of the best things about fuel injection is that you avoid the vast 
majority of the cold start problems carbs give you.


Peter
On Tuesday, September 6, 2005, at 10:39  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Hi all,
 
This morning I attempted to start my car cold, about 75' this 
morning and I had a miserable time.

 
I eventualy got tired of trying to crank it, took off the air filter , 
opened the choke to disable the fast idle and she was able to start 
ok-ish. Stalled until she hit about 180 on the gauge.

 
I think the choke housing is on too tight and making it run too rich. 
Over the past few weeks I have not had any problem firing it up in the 
upper 90's - 100's in the afternoon without the filter on. Now with 
the filter and the colder temp is when the problem occurs.

 
She is running the the vacuum line on advance if that makes any 
difference.

 
How tight should the choke be at that temp? should it be closed all 
the way(2.4 mm openening)

 
72 250 M130 W114
 
George
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] trans leak

2005-09-06 Thread Christopher McCann
I had an ATF seep issue once becuase it was over
filled and about to burst the seals - luckily I caught
it, took some out and then no more seeping.

I assume you are checking according to the manual
(HOT) and not adding too much...

Christopher



--- Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 my '83 SD has been eating trans fluidseems to be
 about 1/2 pint every  
 1000 miles, maybe more, I'm not sure.  WHare are the
 possible locations  
 for the leak?  My pan gasket looks clean so I'm
 clueless about where to  
 look now.  Are there common leak points on these
 trans?  TIA all,
 
 -- 
 Luther  KB5QHU
 Alma, Ark
 '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
 '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
 '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
 
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