On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:55:02 -0700, Kevin wrote
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:12:02AM -0400, Rusty Cullens wrote:
Avoid like the plague, they only made them for 2 years, used
parts are impossible to find, new parts are few and far between.
Head prone to cracking, and if the parts guy
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:41:53 -0400, Steve MacSween wrote
The LeSharos have a cult
following existing outside of all reason, sort of like the
Westie Vanagons.
I expect some of the cult following has to do with the fuel economy. They
supposedly get close to 20 mpg. That may not sound
now quote what the hydraulic window lifters cost.
Dave M. wrote:
That's not a W115, it's a W100... a 100.012 to be specific. One of the
most expensive cars on the planet to own. If you aren't used to
spending whatever you like and having accountants figure out your
finances, run away.
For
I have been afraid of them myself. Im sticking with my GM diesels for
now although I wouldnt mind having a cummins.
Kevin wrote:
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 10:52:55AM -0700, Gabriel S. wrote:
why isn't the powerstroke 7.3 a true diesel?
It is a medium duty diesel engine used in things a
Gas 2.35
Diesel 2.51
See a problem with this picture?
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Dan has one I think he would sell, ask him on the biodiesel list.
Christopher McCann wrote:
Are these things hard to find, or am I looking in all
the wrong places? Wife is gettting tired of feeding
the gas hog Sienna and has been ASKING for a diesel
wagon with 3rd seat (!!). Better not let
http://worldclassmotorcars.com/index.htm
TOP DOLLAR asked but showroom condition . Must call, no replay by
e-mail .no 300 TD Listed as of 9/16/05
Bill
1981 300 TD
Christopher McCann wrote:
Are these things hard to find, or am I looking in all
the wrong places? Wife is gettting
THIS Place sell one one for about $345.00.. it's brand new .
http://www.etrailer.com/products.asp?model=300TDcategory=hitchyear=1981make=Mercedes-Benzt1=h=e
Bill
1981 300 td
Steve MacSween wrote:
Dude, for $700 I'll MAKE you one here in my driveway. Just paypal me right
away ;-).
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I have been afraid of them myself. Im sticking with my GM diesels for
now although I wouldnt mind having a cummins.
Did you see that white 3500 with 6.2L that the guy only wants $3k with rebuilt
motor?
http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/9721.html
BTW, my buddy
then you would have a car that is not worth hardly anything at all. I
have seen it done, its quite a shame to ruin such a car by cheaping out
on the repairs like that.
R A Bennell wrote:
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Example: The injection pump for the engine has a current list price of
probababy harder than toads 300E
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-MERCEDES-380-SEC-COUPE-PARTS-CAR-WRECKED_W0QQitemZ8000618865QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76
David Brodbeck wrote:
If you really want to see a motorhome with cult status, though, check out
the old front-wheel-drive, V-8 powered GMC motorhomes. People will spend a
mint on restoring those things. They have an insane following.
Thanks, I never realized those were FWD. From looking at
Bill Gallagher wrote:
THIS Place sell one one for about $345.00.. it's brand new .
http://www.etrailer.com/products.asp?model=300TDcategory=hitchyear=1981make=Mercedes-Benzt1=h=e
Looks great for pulling a lawnmower or Hobie Cat, but a class 1 hitch has a
lower rating
than a S123
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Gas 2.35
Diesel 2.51
See a problem with this picture?
I paid $3.179 for diesel, today. Gas was something like $2.899.
Partly my fault; diesel is only $2.999 in Auburn, but I was on I-5 when
I needed it.
Christopher McCann wrote:
OK, Tom, we have a definite quorum (spelling?) - when
do we do this?
Well, my schedule is pretty open. Just need two weeks notice to make
sure I won't have to work Saturday morning. You've got a family and
will be doing the traveling, so really whatever works for
Mike Piles wrote:
I'm in St louis,
Whereaboots? I'm in Edwardsville.
Tom
George Gregory wrote:
I’m in St Louis
Car shake at start?
Tom
Mitch Haley wrote:
Thanks, I never realized those were FWD. From looking at them, I had assumed
they were rear engined, the floor is too low for driveshafts. Toronado
drivetrain
with 455 V8. I bet it makes the Toronado with the same engine look thrifty by
comparison. I like the early mockup
Lets see the top three have those interesting prices that say there
are none in this region, good luck, seller sets the price point.
However the one at trinityfarms has been for sale for a *long* time
(years?), never did respond to my email, or attempts to contact.
The Burgundy one, like those
Christopher McCann wrote:
Are these things hard to find, or am I looking in all
the wrong places?
Fewer than 2400 300TD turbos were manufactured and sold worldwide in
1987 and '87 was the ONLY year the 124.193 300TD turbo was brought to
North America and some of those went to (and are still
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mmm did see
1984 MERCEDES-BENZ 300CD TURBO DIESEL, 2dr, 217857kms, Beige,
Automatic, All Equipped, Leather Interior, Sunroof, in mint
condition,very rare model $15,800.00 2205 E.HASTINGS ST.
VANCOUVER.WWW.JJ MOTORCARS.COM 2205 E.HASTINGS ST. VANCOUVER.WWW.JJ
Did not notice the rating issue, good point ...I had, some place a URL
of another Hitch site went for $500. Can't recall the rating I found
this info on a Google search a year or more ago
MB hitches are expensive .
bill
Mitch Haley wrote:
Bill Gallagher wrote:
THIS
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Thats not a 115, its a 600
But they DO look like 115s when driving toward you on the interstate.
Really big, really shiny 115s. I couldn't figure out why an old
strichacht should look so majestic until I realized the car coming
toward me was this one:
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is pretty cool, kind of 60s futuristic. It reminds me of a
scaled-up version of the Brubaker Box:
http://www.rodster.com/articles/BrubakerBox.htm
Oh, here we go again. I had just about forgotten my teenage years with the
dogeared copies of
Ya, I'm sure I saw one 70 Km NE of Frankfurt in August, we *all* got
whiplash turning our heads to watch it float by.
Although we were on a country road it didn't have a spec of dirt on
it, *very elegant*. I wasn't driving so I got the best look in.
On 16-Sep-05, at 8:31 PM, tom savage
Had a ride in a LWB 600 two years ago. I sat up front with the driver while
everyone else piled in the back. This thing had 2 way radio between the
driver and the passengers. Just an incredible car..
It's pretty much restored now - very nice ride.
Then just go to a welding shop and tell them you want
a class II hitch. They will find enought sheet metal
under there to tack it to.
I did the DeLan hitch and the muffler rubs on it -
PITA. But it pulls a small trailer just fine. I
wouldn't recommend using that tranny to pull anything
heavier
Looks like something sitting high off the ground hit it. I'd bet someone
driving one of those gas guzzling SUV's and yapping on a cell phone no doubt :))
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
probababy harder than toads 300E
Mitch.
I have a 1976 GMC out in the garage - has not been out of there for 9 years.
Economy is not bad with the original carburetor she did around 10 mpg.
Overhauled the engine and I went to digital fuel injection 15 years ago the
result was 12.5 - 13.5 mpg and bunch more torque, had to rebuild
Randy wrote:
With prices like that I think I would be putting a Chevy engine under the
hood and a Ford rear end under it if anything went wrong with it. That might
be a bit sacrilegious but good lord, those prices are silly and no one would
ever know if you kept the hood and your mouth closed.
The vin is:
WDBDB26D4GF235928
Not sure how you read the engine from the vin.
Ron Dwelle
On Sep 16, 2005, at 4:02 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:
Ron Dwelle wrote:
I called on a 190 D for sale in N. Carolina. The guy insists that it's
a 4 cylinder, 5-speed, and 1986. He claims it's a rare
Thanks Trampas and Marshall.
The alternator on this car does not have the removable regulator/brush
ass'y.
More testing reveiled a bad battery as the culprit.
In case someone is interrested, I used the starter for a true load test.
Connect a voltmeter across the battery posts with the engine
I posted somewhere in the past a drawing for a Class I/II hitch that mounts
where the bumper attaches to the body.
The dimensions are for a 126 chassis but can be modifies to fit any chassis
and can be beefed up to a Class III.
My cost was ~ $ 75 for material and labor. I can pass the drawing
Wow, actually I'm impressed it managed 10 mpg with the original carb setup.
I have been told that the contemporary Winnies often got down to half that.
(Anyone remember when the highways were full of Winnebagos during the
summer? I saw a REALLY old one last week, obviously some guy getting it back
I would love to have a W126 limo, with a 603 or 617 it would be a great
commuter car. Anyone know of a cheap one on east coast.
Regards,
Trampas
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On Behalf Of BenzBarn
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 12:23 AM
wouldn't that be even SLOWER than a standard 126?
On 9/17/05, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would love to have a W126 limo, with a 603 or 617 it would be a great
commuter car. Anyone know of a cheap one on east coast.
Regards,
Trampas
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From: [EMAIL
How rare is a 190D 2.5 turbo? I saw one this morning with 165kmi on it, and
didn't look too bad otherwise.
Aside from rarity, how is this car to drive and own?
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Sunil Hari
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
513-205-7474
Then just go to a welding shop and tell them you want
a class II hitch. They will find enought sheet metal
under there to tack it to.
Karl,
VERY poor advice...Welds on sheet metal will crack under vibration and
heavy stress loads of a trailer hitch..Yes, save the money and have a
etrailer.com has them for $345, but there is no photo to verify if they are
like any others you may have seen.
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 139K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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From: Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday,
I suspect Hans and Mike are referring to a Class II design along the lines
of one that my friend and I just removed (!!! -- took hours) from an Audi.
It replaces the bumper entirely, and slides into/bolts into the original
bumper slots. Massive piece of work, straight from der Fatherland.
Mac
On 9/16/05, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And A Response
With prices like that I think I would be putting a Chevy engine under the
hood and a Ford rear end under it if anything went wrong with it. That
might
be a bit sacrilegious but good lord, those prices are silly and no one
yea, probably
Sunil Hari wrote:
wouldn't that be even SLOWER than a standard 126?
On 9/17/05, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would love to have a W126 limo, with a 603 or 617 it would be a great
commuter car. Anyone know of a cheap one on east coast.
These things are a scarce as hen's teeth, but if you find one, they are
very nice.
the only real problems they have other than cracking head (which
doesn't appear to be a problem in the 5 cylinder later models) is a
very high rate of fail evaporators on the AC -- my TE blew out, the DT
is
It will have all the 190 woes (some shared by the W124), and is both
scarce (one year production for the US) and FAST.
They get decent milage, although nothing like the 190D manny tranny.
Peter
On 9/14/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve MacSween wrote:
So he then got rid of it, went out and bought one of those ghastly
little
3-cylinder Suzukis badged as a Pontiac,
Firefly?
I saw one of those in Sault St Marie about ten years ago, and thought
why can't we get
The wagon was never available with a diesel except for 87.
Peter Frederick wrote:
These things are a scarce as hen's teeth, but if you find one, they are
very nice.
the only real problems they have other than cracking head (which
doesn't appear to be a problem in the 5 cylinder later
Randy:
You would covert a scarce, very valuable collector's car into a
junkyard queen waiting to get towed off. Besides, a Chevy engine won't
fit, only a Ford or Chyrlser unless you want to remove the front
subframe, and you will then enjoy a serious performance loss.
They normally sell,
On 9/14/05, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I remember they Omni/Horizon only used the 1.6VW and 2.2Chrysler.
OH and my favorite...The GLH Turbo with
2.2 Chrysler Turbo engine. Mike
With all the talk of the Chrysler 2.2 engines does anyone remember the 2.2Hemi?
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On 9/14/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i thought the spirit was a competent and underrated car
Eagle Spirit or Plymouth Spirit? The Plymouth/Dodge K twins were awesome
with the Mitsu 3.0 6
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Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Can anyone tell me where the drain valve is on an 87 300D? the manual shows
it on the lower drivers side of the radiator, but its not there!
Any help is appreciated.
--
OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!!
Midwest City, Oklahoma
On 9/17/05, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/14/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i thought the spirit was a competent and underrated car
Eagle Spirit or Plymouth Spirit? The Plymouth/Dodge K twins were awesome
with the Mitsu 3.0 6
Oops, the Dodge was the
Bottom side, right lower corner (passenger side).
Hard to see as I remember. I think it's up inside a hole in the frame,
maybe.
Check the other side, too, as you may not have the original radiator in
there.
Peter
From the EPC --
The engine is 602.911 10 019626.
Transmission is 717411 00 429727. (manual)
Color code is 199, interior is 178.
It is a USA 190D 2.5 with a 5 cyl. engine (if original).
On 9/17/05, Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The vin is:
WDBDB26D4GF235928
Not sure how you read
I'd like that drawing - no sense in re-inventing something!
Thanks.
On 9/17/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I posted somewhere in the past a drawing for a Class I/II hitch that mounts
where the bumper attaches to the body.
The dimensions are for a 126 chassis but can be modifies to
You can always just pull the lower radiator hose -- --
On 9/17/05, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bottom side, right lower corner (passenger side).
Hard to see as I remember. I think it's up inside a hole in the frame,
maybe.
Check the other side, too, as you may not have the
Thanks Peter and Don. I will find it or pull the lower hose.
On 9/17/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can always just pull the lower radiator hose -- --
On 9/17/05, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bottom side, right lower corner (passenger side).
Hard to see as I
Less than 1500 imported IIRC.
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD
- Original Message -
From: Sunil Hari
To: Mercedes mailing list
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:36 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo - rare?
How rare is a 190D 2.5 turbo? I saw one this morning with 165kmi on it,
Fewer than 1400 201.128s (190D 2.5 turbo) were MANUFACTURED in '87 (the
ONLY year they were imported to the US) and only some of those
manufactured were brought to th US.
They drive almost a nicely as a 124 (actually just a little more
sportingly), are more economical, are very fast (top speed
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 12:29:22 -0500 Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Check the other side, too, as you may not have the original radiator in
there.
I bought an all-metal 300D radiator from Atlanta Stuttgart Auto Parts when
they were in business. I didn't notice that it had no drain
The WDBDB26D4GF235928 identifies the car as an '86 or later (may have
been MANUFACTURED i late '85 but model yar 1986+) 201.126 having a 2.5
liter 5 cylinder normaly aspirated engine. I'm in VA without my books so
can't be SURE it's a factory 5 speed (that's part of the VIN
information).
If it's
Thanks, OK Don. Apparently the seller is full of sh*t. I asked him at
least twice if he was sure it was a 4 cylinder, if he was sure it was
an 86, if he was sure it was the original engine. He said yes to all,
and even got a little indignant. Wonder if his other claims are equally
accurate.
Thanks, Marshall. It sounds as though it's nearly identical to my euro
190D 2.5 5-speed, which is an 85. This has been my wife's car, but my
son has been driving it more and more and recently has claimed it as
his own. So my wife wants another (she doesn't like our 87 190D turbo
nearly as
PUT THE CHEVY IN IT 396 MABEY !!
Well I'm in if you guys are starting the list, don't know how many
people you are up to now.
On 9/8/05, Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I'll join and hope it covers Sun's Solaris.
Bill
1981300 TD
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Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Anyone know what the difference in the AWD diesel vs AWD gas is, then? I
would imagine they would be similar. I guess what I'm asking is what is the
max torque rating on the AWD gas if someone was so inclined to drop the
diesel engine in on top of the gas.
On 9/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL
And the other was an AMC Spirit rather than Eagle. Mike
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From: Ed Booher
To: Mercedes mailing list
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche
On 9/17/05, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/14/05, JabbaHursty
Quite a few of us over there now.
On 9/17/05, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well I'm in if you guys are starting the list, don't know how many
people you are up to now.
On 9/8/05, Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I'll join and hope it covers Sun's Solaris.
Not so, in fact, perhaps PETA could be brought on-board with this
idea! It's a win-win situation - they get to kill pets to save them
from suffering, and we get to burn them in our cars!
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050914/cgw054.html?.v=22
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaKillsAnimals.cfm
Kaleb,
This is what I've been saying forever now. All you Okies and the WA-WAs get
the stuff man. Stuck in Indianapolis, IN everyone still thinks their 45 year
old Benz is still worth 10K since that's what they were new or whatever!
Gah!
Everyone! Move to IN and bring all your MB with you!
Just added my name suppose I should be saying this to the other list
now :)
On 9/17/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quite a few of us over there now.
On 9/17/05, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well I'm in if you guys are starting the list, don't know how many
Dieselers,
Our daily driver fleet of 4 diesels has been running
on commercial B20 mix for 6 months with zero problems.
For the last month or so I been testing some 100% WVO
based biodiesel in the 77 240D. The stuff is
processed by a local hobbyist/activist from used
restaurant oil. It runs
Diesel Experts,
While debugging the bio fuel problem on the 77 240D I
noticed that someone installed a Racor 'Water
Separator' on the fuel supply line. It mounts on the
fender wall and the label says 'empty water daily'.
Anybody know anything about this gadget? It was
filled with algae so I
Sounds to me like the guy is smoking something, according to that vin thats a
85.. Run a carfax
Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, OK Don. Apparently the seller is full of sh*t. I asked him at
least twice if he was sure it was a 4 cylinder, if he was sure it was
an 86, if he was
Likely you have algae in the tank, and this may or may not be related
to biodiesel use -- the biodiesel tends to clean the tank (it's a
better solvent than regular diesel), but the problem is pretty common
on that age Benz.
You will need to run the tank as low as you can (the screen will plug
Some of the later 80's cars like the Plymouths used a Mitsu build 2.6
Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/14/05, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I remember they Omni/Horizon only used the 1.6VW and 2.2Chrysler.
OH and my favorite...The GLH Turbo with
2.2 Chrysler Turbo
Speaking of Isuzu, they just so happen to make one heck of a tough diesel
Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/14/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve MacSween wrote:
So he then got rid of it, went out and bought one of those ghastly
little
3-cylinder Suzukis badged as a
ned kleinhenz wrote:
Although my RV was often parked in a campground slot right next to a GM
Motorhome, I'm sure the two camping experiences were much different.
Somewhere I've got a picture of my old VW Vanagon next to a huge diesel
pusher RV with a satellite dish and the whole nine yards.
oops! my goof that is a 86 2.5 L 5 cyl diesel. at least thats what carfax states
OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From the EPC --
The engine is 602.911 10 019626.
Transmission is 717411 00 429727. (manual)
Color code is 199, interior is 178.
It is a USA 190D 2.5 with a 5 cyl. engine (if
WDBDB26D4GF235928
Year/Make/Model: 1986 MERCEDES-BENZ 190D 2.5
Body Style: SEDAN 4 DR
Engine Type: 2.5L L5 DIESEL
Manufactured In: GERMANY
Search Results: 25 records found in our database
What is a record?
Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, OK Don.
Our '81 240D has one - it was installed by the dealer when it was
bought in MPLS. There's a filter in there as well. I change it every
now and again -- -
On 9/17/05, B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Diesel Experts,
While debugging the bio fuel problem on the 77 240D I
noticed that someone
I ended up pulling the lower hose. No drain plug. It was pretty easy though.
On 9/17/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 12:29:22 -0500 Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Check the other side, too, as you may not have the original radiator in
there.
I
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