Re: [MBZ] Crumple zones
Unless I'm mistaken, the Ponton was the first chassis with crumple zones and a rigid passenger compartment. the Adenauer was the last car built with a separate chassis with body bolted on. Makes Detroit's refusal to do anything to make cars safer look pretty shabby. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Quick Question
TimothyPilgrim wrote: On that note, replace just the seal or the whole water pump? My first thought is that the rear bearing has been running in antifreeze. What does a pump cost? I'm going to change all my accessory belts while I'm at it since they're quite worn. Rusty wants US76.29 for a Laso and US44.67 for a Geba. According to the pics, both have real cast turbine impellers, not stamped sheet metal fins. Does he ship to Canada?
Re: [MBZ] newbie questions
Thanks. On your recommendation, I bought a case of Italian Tune Up on ebay, haven't received it yet. You are kidding. aren't you? Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD
Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry
300SD top speed is 102mph, I believe...you must be talking of the CD, no? Top speed on the 87 300TD is 123mph and I EASILY hit 100 the other day. The SD was screaming across Texas and I only got to 99mph b4 a big truck wouldn't move out of the way. Chris --- Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what kind of Benz you drive, but mine is usually passing the gass guzzlin SUV's. It's most happy at speeds approaching and exceeding 100mph. YMMV. Luther On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:32:52 -0500, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, but the benz goes slower and you wont miss the scenery! -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Question -- water pump
I bought a new water pump a couple of months ago at the local auto parts store when mine started spewing, new one has stamped steel impellers, don't recall how much it was (I was surprised it was not too much, maybe $20 or $30). Seems to be working fine. I was surprised they had one in stock. I took the opportunity with it off to run a lot of water through the system, did not get to the citric acid. Put in new G05. --R Mitch Haley wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: On that note, replace just the seal or the whole water pump? My first thought is that the rear bearing has been running in antifreeze. What does a pump cost? I'm going to change all my accessory belts while I'm at it since they're quite worn. Rusty wants US76.29 for a Laso and US44.67 for a Geba. According to the pics, both have real cast turbine impellers, not stamped sheet metal fins. Does he ship to Canada? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Trunk lock
don't try to make a copy of a crappy key. Get a new one from your local MB dealer. From your VIN code Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD
Re: [MBZ] 16v auction, oy!
what all could the blue smoke be? Burning oil, I know, but from what cause? In other words, what's the differential diagnosis? Is this worth the $3000 or so it will go for? On 10/25/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you look at those wheels? They wouldn't last a day among Michigan potholes, or even a railroad crossing. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4584225280 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] 16v auction, oy!
But they would sure be happy here in southern Callifornia. About how much it cost to rebuild her engine? On 10/25/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you look at those wheels? They wouldn't last a day among Michigan potholes, or even a railroad crossing. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4584225280 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Quick Question
Buy a pump from Rusty. Anything else is wasting time and money. In HI, because i usually only drove no more than the 40 miles into Hilo, I tried to get by without replacing a pump that was leaking a little. It seized halfway to Kona on a Sat. I had to let the car sit until I could order a pump on Mon and then it had to be shipped in. I was without wheels for about a week. It is not worth it, buy a new pump from Rusty NOW! At 05:59 PM 10/25/2005, you wrote: Thanks Marshall and Tom. The reason I ask is that I have reason to believe that my waterpump seal is blown (coolant coming out the weep hole at the pump top), and in my slow process of repair, I've removed the fan only. I just wanted to know if I ran into trouble with the rest of the repair and couldn't reassemble everything, if I could drive it to my indie instead of having it towed. On that note, replace just the seal or the whole water pump? What does a pump cost? I'm going to change all my accessory belts while I'm at it since they're quite worn. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/24/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: How long will my wagon run WITHOUT the main cooling fan before an irreversible problem develops? Until the thermostat opens or a while afterwords? Tim 1982 300TD Moby The fan shouldn't come on until the coolant temp reaches close to 100 deg C. Don't load the engine down and there should be NO problem at all (if all the rest of the car and cooling system are working as they should be). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Quick Question
Thanks Mitch and Loren. The short answer is that No, Rusty does not ship to Canada. I think it was due to past problems. Therefore, I won't be buying anything from him - I'll have to go to the dealer. Mitch, what are you describing regarding the rear bearing? The rear crank bearing or the rear pump bearing? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/25/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: On that note, replace just the seal or the whole water pump? My first thought is that the rear bearing has been running in antifreeze. What does a pump cost? I'm going to change all my accessory belts while I'm at it since they're quite worn. Rusty wants US76.29 for a Laso and US44.67 for a Geba. According to the pics, both have real cast turbine impellers, not stamped sheet metal fins. Does he ship to Canada? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry
I imagine it's limited by revs only? On 10/25/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 300SD top speed is 102mph, I believe...you must be talking of the CD, no? Top speed on the 87 300TD is 123mph and I EASILY hit 100 the other day. The SD was screaming across Texas and I only got to 99mph b4 a big truck wouldn't move out of the way. Chris --- Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what kind of Benz you drive, but mine is usually passing the gass guzzlin SUV's. It's most happy at speeds approaching and exceeding 100mph. YMMV. Luther On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:32:52 -0500, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, but the benz goes slower and you wont miss the scenery! -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
I would say that it would have been classified as a wagon, same as the Ford Bronco. Or in the vernacular of IH, International Scout, Anything less is just a car! Regards, -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry
so you are a wreckless driver? Luther Gulseth wrote: I don't know what kind of Benz you drive, but mine is usually passing the gass guzzlin SUV's. It's most happy at speeds approaching and exceeding 100mph. YMMV. Luther On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:32:52 -0500, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, but the benz goes slower and you wont miss the scenery! -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Quick Question
TimothyPilgrim wrote: Thanks Marshall and Tom. The reason I ask is that I have reason to believe that my waterpump seal is blown (coolant coming out the weep hole at the pump top), and in my slow process of repair, I've removed the fan only. I just wanted to know if I ran into trouble with the rest of the repair and couldn't reassemble everything, if I could drive it to my indie instead of having it towed. On that note, replace just the seal or the whole water pump? What does a pump cost? I'm going to change all my accessory belts while I'm at it since they're quite worn. If fluid come out of the weep hole you replace the pump! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Quick Question
Will do sir! In your experience, how difficult is it to do so? Remember, I've got the fan off already, and it's getting cool outside... Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/25/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: Thanks Marshall and Tom. The reason I ask is that I have reason to believe that my waterpump seal is blown (coolant coming out the weep hole at the pump top), and in my slow process of repair, I've removed the fan only. I just wanted to know if I ran into trouble with the rest of the repair and couldn't reassemble everything, if I could drive it to my indie instead of having it towed. On that note, replace just the seal or the whole water pump? What does a pump cost? I'm going to change all my accessory belts while I'm at it since they're quite worn. If fluid come out of the weep hole you replace the pump! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Quick Question
Ship it to me, I live 7 miles from the Canadian Post office and can re-mail it. contact me off-list if you are interested -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD On 10/25/05, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Mitch and Loren. The short answer is that No, Rusty does not ship to Canada. I think it was due to past problems. Therefore, I won't be buying anything from him - I'll have to go to the dealer. Mitch, what are you describing regarding the rear bearing? The rear crank bearing or the rear pump bearing? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/25/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: On that note, replace just the seal or the whole water pump? My first thought is that the rear bearing has been running in antifreeze. What does a pump cost? I'm going to change all my accessory belts while I'm at it since they're quite worn. Rusty wants US76.29 for a Laso and US44.67 for a Geba. According to the pics, both have real cast turbine impellers, not stamped sheet metal fins. Does he ship to Canada? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] CDI quesion
Thanks Marshall, I have a family member who is considering plunking down the 54K to buy a new CDI. Dwight Giles 1979 240D auto 244k + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 127K miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CDI quesion degcoast wrote: Anyone know any data on longevity of the3.2 CDI ? Any issues with that? Weren't they sold in Europe before being imported here a year or so ago? TIA, Dwight Dwight Giles 1979 240D auto 244k + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 127K miles Wickford, RI The 4, 5 and 6 cylinder versions of the CDI engines are in their 2nd or 3rd generation now. They have been available in Europe since the mid/late '90s. I would NOT be concerned about the mechanical issues - from the reports I read, the engines are quite durable and are likely to last a great many hundreds of thousands of miles, but they may NOT age well. I would be much more concerned about the durability or longevity of the electrical systems that control the entire injection/emissions systems - and am skeptical that they will last much more than 10 years. If you are driving 20+kmi a year, then a CDI diesel might be an ideal choice. If you are driving closer to 10kmi a year, I'd be afraid that the electronics and chassis will fail LONG before you've worn out the engine. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Quick Question
Okay thanks. But first I'll check out around here to see what I can find locally. I'd also like to do the work this weekend since it's supposed to be much warmer and sunny. If I can find a local pump in stock, I'll probably go that route. Tim On 10/25/05, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ship it to me, I live 7 miles from the Canadian Post office and can re-mail it. contact me off-list if you are interested -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD On 10/25/05, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Mitch and Loren. The short answer is that No, Rusty does not ship to Canada. I think it was due to past problems. Therefore, I won't be buying anything from him - I'll have to go to the dealer. Mitch, what are you describing regarding the rear bearing? The rear crank bearing or the rear pump bearing? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/25/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: On that note, replace just the seal or the whole water pump? My first thought is that the rear bearing has been running in antifreeze. What does a pump cost? I'm going to change all my accessory belts while I'm at it since they're quite worn. Rusty wants US76.29 for a Laso and US44.67 for a Geba. According to the pics, both have real cast turbine impellers, not stamped sheet metal fins. Does he ship to Canada? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Trunk lock
Gerry, Try looking at the following,which describes the location of the emergency release under the seat on an 85. I owned 2 84s and they both had the release. Worth a shot! Mike Boerner 87 300sdl, 125k 87 300d130k http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK1/program/OM/OM-14.pdf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Archer Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 5:11 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Trunk lock Help! The trunk on my '83 300D won't open using vacuum or key and needed tools are inside. I've tried the Mighty-Vac on both lines going to the trunk lid and fuel door by disconnecting each line from the four way connectors on the floor at the right door. I've tried both types of keys that came with the car. None of the keys will turn the lock. Does anyone know of a way to manually unlock the trunk? The only alternative I can think of is taking it to a lock and key shop. Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 240D and 300D
Re: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel
Well from what I can see it is to do with the name of the fuel that is used in a particular engine. It would be confusing to call the HCCI engines diesels because people would assume that they run on diesel. Now listen carefully dear, even though this new car has an engine called a diesel in it, it actually runs on petrol/gas. So please don't get mixed up when you fill it up. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:37 AM Subject: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel In reading about HCCI, it annoys me that they say it is 'like a diesel' or 'like it's diesel cousin'...I guess this bugs me b/c I have read about Diesel himself and see how he envisaged the engine. Any compression ignition engine is a diesel...obvisouly HCCI is the most different out there, esp since it seems that the current ones still have spark plugs to kick in at the higher and lower revs to even things out, making it a hybrid diesel. But if an HCCI engine were to be produced that had no spark plugs, it would simply be a diesel - just optimized to use a different fuel, just like Dr. Diesel himself modified engines to run off thick Baku oil (and was awarded a medal by the Czar of Russia for doing so). It's probably all marketing, want to sidestep the idea of dirty soot belching, glow plugging diesels. But it's still a diesel. It just irks me a tad. Rudy could care less what it's called, from what I can tell of his life, he would be happy to see this, but would not like the over-complicatedness of it as it makes it less practical (impossible) for an owner to work on. He was very big on empowering (pun intended) the little guy...the simpler the better. 70 mpg is nice though... Done rambling. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/143 - Release Date: 19/10/2005
[MBZ] 350 sdl fan
I am getting a lot of noise from the fan area. The fan spins freely when the motor is not running (which I believe it did not do earlier). It also rotates when the motor is running. The fan is plastic and is not coming in contact with the shrouding. What needs to be replaced? Thanks for your thoughts. Constantine
Re: [MBZ] Quick Question
If its leaking, the pump bearings are on their way out. that is why I said not to risk the pump seizing. If you can't buy from Rusty, then find an alternate source or go to a stealership. At 06:52 PM 10/25/2005, you wrote: Thanks Mitch and Loren. The short answer is that No, Rusty does not ship to Canada. I think it was due to past problems. Therefore, I won't be buying anything from him - I'll have to go to the dealer. Mitch, what are you describing regarding the rear bearing? The rear crank bearing or the rear pump bearing? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/25/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: On that note, replace just the seal or the whole water pump? My first thought is that the rear bearing has been running in antifreeze. What does a pump cost? I'm going to change all my accessory belts while I'm at it since they're quite worn. Rusty wants US76.29 for a Laso and US44.67 for a Geba. According to the pics, both have real cast turbine impellers, not stamped sheet metal fins. Does he ship to Canada? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel
On 10/25/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well from what I can see it is to do with the name of the fuel that is used in a particular engine. I'd agree with Hendrik, although our diesels are compression ignition, they run on diesel fuel. Some Military Multi-fuel engines can run on gas, diesel, avgas, or combinations of those. Some would even run on milkfat! (creme). Those engines had diferent power characteristics depending on the fuel, but were still CI engines. I would say the HCCI engine could be called just CI by those who know what it means. With the gasoline direct injection technology available today (and it's been available elsewhere for 10 years or so), HCCI is the next logical step. -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Quick Question
Okay, that's good to know. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/25/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If its leaking, the pump bearings are on their way out. that is why I said not to risk the pump seizing. If you can't buy from Rusty, then find an alternate source or go to a stealership. At 06:52 PM 10/25/2005, you wrote: Thanks Mitch and Loren. The short answer is that No, Rusty does not ship to Canada. I think it was due to past problems. Therefore, I won't be buying anything from him - I'll have to go to the dealer. Mitch, what are you describing regarding the rear bearing? The rear crank bearing or the rear pump bearing? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/25/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: On that note, replace just the seal or the whole water pump? My first thought is that the rear bearing has been running in antifreeze. What does a pump cost? I'm going to change all my accessory belts while I'm at it since they're quite worn. Rusty wants US76.29 for a Laso and US44.67 for a Geba. According to the pics, both have real cast turbine impellers, not stamped sheet metal fins. Does he ship to Canada? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Snakeoil?
http://www.dieselsecret.com/
Someone on the mog list posted this.
They have a German technician so it must work:-)
Hendrik
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Shame I don't still live in Virginia!
On 10/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry- the first attempt didn't work right - ;-\
Howdy -
Spoke to my friend and he says the 240D is still there - I sent this out
on
a weekend before and maybe everyine didn't see it - Sorry about the repeat
but we'd really like to see someone get this who will get some use from
it.
A friend has a '80 240D with about 150k miles on it located in
Richmond Va
he'd like to get sell. He bought it for his daughter who drove it
for
several years before buying something else and selling it to a
neighbor.
The car was driven until several months ago when it wouldn;t start
and the
owner left it in the driveway needing a battery we think. The owner
moved
to Germany and didn't want to spend $100 on a new battery. The title
has
been signed and will not be a problem.
The car is light yellow with tan interior (IIRC) - auto trans, manual
windows, -
fast glow plug kit and was serviced by the book until it failed to
start.
The engine smokes slightly at startup but runs well and the AT shifts
fine.
If interested, send me a note directly and I'll provide a phone
number.
He wants to get $500 for it. Would be an excellent driver or parts
car.
It's
such a nice car I'd really like someone to buy it drive it instead
of
parting it out
but what happens, happens. ;-)
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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Re: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel
Ja, but the definition of Diesel is compression ignition. So, an argument can be made both ways. Since it is a honda, I say WHO CARES? Diesel engines can run on whale oil, but they are not called whale engines if so, or soy engines if run on soy oil. At 08:09 PM 10/25/2005, you wrote: Well from what I can see it is to do with the name of the fuel that is used in a particular engine. It would be confusing to call the HCCI engines diesels because people would assume that they run on diesel. Now listen carefully dear, even though this new car has an engine called a diesel in it, it actually runs on petrol/gas. So please don't get mixed up when you fill it up. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:37 AM Subject: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel In reading about HCCI, it annoys me that they say it is 'like a diesel' or 'like it's diesel cousin'...I guess this bugs me b/c I have read about Diesel himself and see how he envisaged the engine. Any compression ignition engine is a diesel...obvisouly HCCI is the most different out there, esp since it seems that the current ones still have spark plugs to kick in at the higher and lower revs to even things out, making it a hybrid diesel. But if an HCCI engine were to be produced that had no spark plugs, it would simply be a diesel - just optimized to use a different fuel, just like Dr. Diesel himself modified engines to run off thick Baku oil (and was awarded a medal by the Czar of Russia for doing so). It's probably all marketing, want to sidestep the idea of dirty soot belching, glow plugging diesels. But it's still a diesel. It just irks me a tad. Rudy could care less what it's called, from what I can tell of his life, he would be happy to see this, but would not like the over-complicatedness of it as it makes it less practical (impossible) for an owner to work on. He was very big on empowering (pun intended) the little guy...the simpler the better. 70 mpg is nice though... Done rambling. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/143 - Release Date: 19/10/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Insight needed
At some time fairly close to Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:04:08 -0700, rumor has it that Gabriel wrote: My question is: Why wasn't the O ring just replaced instead of trying to fix it really quick...It can't be that expensive for an O right Err, well In my experience: If I find a repair on one of my cars that's done _right_ - I wonder why!! There seems to be no lack of stupitidy when it comes to how other folks fix cars. Oh, list members are an exception - of course! *smile* Philip, picky mechanic
[MBZ] MB Car Fax 1979 240 D
Could anyone run a repot on a 1979 240 D vin 12312312094914. I would appreciate it. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel Ja, but the definition of Diesel is compression ignition. So, an argument can be made both ways. Since it is a honda, I say WHO CARES? Diesel engines can run on whale oil, but they are not called whale engines if so, or soy engines if run on soy oil. At 08:09 PM 10/25/2005, you wrote: Well from what I can see it is to do with the name of the fuel that is used in a particular engine. It would be confusing to call the HCCI engines diesels because people would assume that they run on diesel. Now listen carefully dear, even though this new car has an engine called a diesel in it, it actually runs on petrol/gas. So please don't get mixed up when you fill it up. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:37 AM Subject: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel In reading about HCCI, it annoys me that they say it is 'like a diesel' or 'like it's diesel cousin'...I guess this bugs me b/c I have read about Diesel himself and see how he envisaged the engine. Any compression ignition engine is a diesel...obvisouly HCCI is the most different out there, esp since it seems that the current ones still have spark plugs to kick in at the higher and lower revs to even things out, making it a hybrid diesel. But if an HCCI engine were to be produced that had no spark plugs, it would simply be a diesel - just optimized to use a different fuel, just like Dr. Diesel himself modified engines to run off thick Baku oil (and was awarded a medal by the Czar of Russia for doing so). It's probably all marketing, want to sidestep the idea of dirty soot belching, glow plugging diesels. But it's still a diesel. It just irks me a tad. Rudy could care less what it's called, from what I can tell of his life, he would be happy to see this, but would not like the over-complicatedness of it as it makes it less practical (impossible) for an owner to work on. He was very big on empowering (pun intended) the little guy...the simpler the better. 70 mpg is nice though... Done rambling. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/143 - Release Date: 19/10/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry
I am not a wreckless driver, i prefer to call myself a spirited driver. On 10/25/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so you are a wreckless driver? Luther Gulseth wrote: I don't know what kind of Benz you drive, but mine is usually passing the gass guzzlin SUV's. It's most happy at speeds approaching and exceeding 100mph. YMMV. Luther On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:32:52 -0500, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, but the benz goes slower and you wont miss the scenery! -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Snakeoil?
Probably Snake Oil... But we will await the reply from our esteemed Dr. Diesel.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 25, 2005, at 6:25 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote: http://www.dieselsecret.com/ Someone on the mog list posted this. They have a German technician so it must work:-) Hendrik ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Quick Question
A lesson we all need to learn is THERE ARE NO QUICK QUESTIONS!!! Take care and be safe, Chuck Phoenix, AZ On Oct 25, 2005, at 6:23 PM, TimothyPilgrim wrote: Okay, that's good to know. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/25/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If its leaking, the pump bearings are on their way out. that is why I said not to risk the pump seizing. If you can't buy from Rusty, then find an alternate source or go to a stealership. At 06:52 PM 10/25/2005, you wrote: Thanks Mitch and Loren. The short answer is that No, Rusty does not ship to Canada. I think it was due to past problems. Therefore, I won't be buying anything from him - I'll have to go to the dealer. Mitch, what are you describing regarding the rear bearing? The rear crank bearing or the rear pump bearing? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/25/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: On that note, replace just the seal or the whole water pump? My first thought is that the rear bearing has been running in antifreeze. What does a pump cost? I'm going to change all my accessory belts while I'm at it since they're quite worn. Rusty wants US76.29 for a Laso and US44.67 for a Geba. According to the pics, both have real cast turbine impellers, not stamped sheet metal fins. Does he ship to Canada? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 16v auction, oy!
Sunil Hari wrote: what all could the blue smoke be? Burning oil, I know, but from what cause? Either head gasket, valve guides or piston rings. I suspect it's the reason why mine recently had a valve job. It still burns a qt per 3000 miles, if the seller is to be believed. Mitch 1979 300SD 1987 190Dt rusty and wrecked 1986 190E 2.3-16v probably looks better in jpeg than in real life, future home of 2.5 turbo engine. http://my.voyager.net/~mlh/70_1.jpg
Re: [MBZ] Snakeoil?
we best keep reading...it looks like the $.46/gal has to do with resteraunt grease/oil that one might add the product to...or, did i miss it??
Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry
Yea, Luther, you just love that feeling of the wind blowing in your hair, don't you? Don't forget that not all of us are driving S-Class turbos. :-) Don [Benz temporarily down pending installation of tie rod ends and lower ball joints.] On 10/25/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what kind of Benz you drive, but mine is usually passing the gass guzzlin SUV's. It's most happy at speeds approaching and exceeding 100mph. YMMV. Luther -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] trunk lock
Don't you love it when you have a problem that is exasperating and some comes up with this type of solution. Dennis Perkins 84 300SD I have a few suggestions: 1. Cut the top of the trunk open (with a torch), seal it with bed liner add some plumbing, water heater, champagne, girls and you have yourself a nice jacuzzi...heck, you might even be able to star in a rap video! 2. Cut out your back seats with a saw-saw (careful with sparks) insert a mattress and walla...you have a sedan camper. Dont forget to purchase sticker that reads when this sedan is a rockin, don't come a knockin 3. Screw the trunk! Who needs it?
Re: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel
IIRC there is more difference between between spark ignition and compression ignition than the fuel and ignition source. The two are idealized with different thermodynamic cycles. Spark ignitioin (SI) uses the Otto cycle which sucks in the fuel/air charge during the intake stroke. After compression, pressure from the chemical reaction almost spikes, then decreases during the power stroke. In the CI, or Diesel cycle, only air is sucked in during the intake stroke. It is compressed to heat the air charge. Then the fuel is injected and reacted durring the power stroke which occurs at approximately constant pressure. It depends when the fuel is injected, but the Honda HCCI sound like a diesel to me. After all, the fuel name does not identify the thermo cycle. I believe Rudi tried to run his first engine on pulverized coal. (too much melted ash to be practical). At the current prices of diesel fuel vs gasoline, a gasoline fueled diesel sounds pretty good to me. Ned Kleinhenz
Re: [MBZ] Snakeoil?
Hmmmn shouldn't that be Dr. Compression Ignition Engine:-) Hendrik - Original Message - From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snakeoil? Probably Snake Oil... But we will await the reply from our esteemed Dr. Diesel.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 25, 2005, at 6:25 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote: http://www.dieselsecret.com/ Someone on the mog list posted this. They have a German technician so it must work:-) Hendrik ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/149 - Release Date: 25/10/2005
Re: [MBZ] newbie questions
If he is serious, we need to get Kaleb selling case loads of that on eBay. On Tuesday, October 25, 2005, at 04:29 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: Thanks. On your recommendation, I bought a case of Italian Tune Up on ebay, haven't received it yet. You are kidding. aren't you? Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Replacement key head
Wilma blew that part of the world away after Stan soggied it up On Tuesday, October 25, 2005, at 09:48 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: After less than a year, my VIN-cut key's head has disintegrated, leaving me with just the metal stub. I notice Performance Products has a replacement head, but it costs almost as much as a new key, meaning it's only a good deal if it lasts longer than the original head did. Has anyone had any experience with these? Anyone come up with a better solution? Melissa made a beautiful head for her new 300D key after it fell apart within days or weeks of purchase. Hand-carved wood, I think she used something moderately exotic like rosewood. Hey, it's still in my trashbox, and it was rosewood. She did say she might possibly be convinced to make more. Her addy was [EMAIL PROTECTED] ack in June, she disappeared from the list soon after. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mbwoodkey.jpg Type: image/jpg Size: 32357 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/ 20051025/93168ed7/mbwoodkey.jpg ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] newbie questions
I think I just got an idea! On 10/25/05, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. On your recommendation, I bought a case of Italian Tune Up on ebay, haven't received it yet. You are kidding. aren't you? Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] How long do engine mounts usually survive?
On 24 Oct 2005 at 20:04, Marshall Booth wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been pointed out to me a few times that engine mounts can cause apparent engine vibration. How long do they usually last? I think the ones in my 91 300D 2.5t are about 70k miles old. I would have thought they would still be good, but Thanks. Kevin The factory mounts usually last a LOT longer than 70kmi (but the aftermarket ones sometimes don't). Fortunately failure of the motor mounts on a 124 series car are easy to check objectively. If there is 1/2 (actually 13 mm) clearance between the notch and the chassis the mount is fine. If less than 1/2 the mount needs to be replaced. Ah! As soon as I get my daughter's new car squared away, I will check it out. Thank you, Marshall! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] trunk lock
Dennis Perkins wrote: Don't you love it when you have a problem that is exasperating and some comes up with this type of solution. I read somewhere about a guy who actually took off the license plate and used a hole saw to cut a hole right over the latch assembly. It worked, and was quick-n-easy. I think the car was BMW. Obviously requires knowledge of exactly where you need to trip the latch.
Re: [MBZ] MB Car Fax 1979 240 D
Tom Scordato wrote: Could anyone run a repot on a 1979 240 D vin 12312312094914. I would appreciate it. Not through carfax, that's the old numbering scheme, which carfax never collected data on. Need the 17 character WDB numbers that came along in 1980 or 1981.
Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness
My Jetta is a 2000 model TDI. Inside the filler neck is a button (on the left side as you look in the filler hole) that gets pushed down by the fuel cap when it is put on. The vent is there for fuel expansion. Any way if you press this button while fueling you can put another 1.5 gallons of fuel in +/-. The shoe horn is a figure of speech. I normally fill my Jetta using the vent trick to the point where I have clear fuel all the way to the top of the filler neck. I never have had a problem with fuel expansion. My range on a highway only trip at 70 to 75 mph is about 800 miles. Mike Piles -Original Message- From: Gabriel S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness thats alot of fuel for a that car. Whats your range, from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli? Whats the vent trick and shoe horn what? On 10/25/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Jetta holds about 16 gallons if you use the vent trick and a shoe horn. Mike Piles -Original Message- From: Gabriel S. [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness how many gallons does your jetta hold? On 10/22/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just filled the tank on my Jetta $3.299 for a total of $50.78 OUCH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:15 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Gasoline is 2.19 Diesel is now 3.49 I thought it was bad at 80 cents backward spread! This is even wackier. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Quick Question
TimothyPilgrim wrote: Mitch, what are you describing regarding the rear bearing? The rear crank bearing or the rear pump bearing? The rear pump bearing. Water pumps generally have pulley, bearing, weep hole, bearing, water seal, impeller. If coolant goes out the weep hole, it probably means that the back bearing has no grease, having been flushed out with hot coolant. You can have the pump shipped to me and I can mail it to you, but you'll still pay duty on it. I'm not going to try to pass it off as a Christmas gift or value $20 on the customs declaration. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] CDI quesion
degcoast wrote: Thanks Marshall, I have a family member who is considering plunking down the 54K to buy a new CDI. http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php3?t=124288
Re: [MBZ] Insight needed
The reason i asked that question was because i thougth there might have been a metal warping issue that a new O ring wouldn't remedy. On 10/25/05, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At some time fairly close to Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:04:08 -0700, rumor has it that Gabriel wrote: My question is: Why wasn't the O ring just replaced instead of trying to fix it really quick...It can't be that expensive for an O right Err, well In my experience: If I find a repair on one of my cars that's done _right_ - I wonder why!! There seems to be no lack of stupitidy when it comes to how other folks fix cars. Oh, list members are an exception - of course! *smile* Philip, picky mechanic ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Snakeoil?
Hendrik, Someone once wrote a rose by any other name would smell as sweet... Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 25, 2005, at 7:11 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote: Hmmmn shouldn't that be Dr. Compression Ignition Engine:-) Hendrik - Original Message - From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snakeoil? Probably Snake Oil... But we will await the reply from our esteemed Dr. Diesel.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 25, 2005, at 6:25 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote: http://www.dieselsecret.com/ Someone on the mog list posted this. They have a German technician so it must work:-) Hendrik ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/149 - Release Date: 25/10/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Motor Mounts
Put the new mounts on the floorboard, knock a couple of hours worth of work off the price, and I'd be real happy to buy it from you -- -- (depending on the final price, of course). On 10/25/05, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to be selling my 1990 300D 2.5 244K soon. I am however still looking for something a little larger; I think I will have to find an SDL. At any rate, before I sell it I want to ensure my good karma and replace a bad motor mount that I have. Any ideas on cost? I can do some things on my car, but I am not sure this is something I can do. Maybe it is. Any suggestions on price and/or tips on how a novice DIY'er could do this would be great. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Sad Death
Well, darn! After reading a couple of novels by Dan Brown, I was rather intrigued by the supposed knights of the templar/rose (sp?) and the Masons - now you've gone and ruined it for me! On 10/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not replied to this thread because it seems to have nothing to do with MB. But Now I must speak. Lets not drag the Masons into a discussion where they don't belong. I am a Mason and have been one for 20 years. When I was a young man (14) I fell and broke my hip. I was sent to the Shriners Hospitals for crippled children (All Shriners are Masons) they took care of me and would not except a penny in return. I have seen no evidence of devil worship or cult like issues in them at all ever. (And I have taken the time to really look for it) If I don't pay my dues ($50) I get suspended from the lodge, I see no cults having that policy. George Washington and most of the sons of liberty were Masons as well as 13 signers of the declaration of independence. It was good enough from George Washington and I am pretty sure he would not join a cult. If a cult helps poor crippled kids walk for no charge,provide defibulators to our local schools, Sponsor the local DARE program, Help locate missing children with their child ID program, take care of widows and orphans, and dole out 80 million a year to charity in PA alone, Never asking for an ounce of credit, then I will sign up for it any day. I have been a business owner and A mason for a long time. Some businesses failed others did better, but I don't think I can park the failure of my business at the door of the Masons. George T. Mason, Past Master St. Johns Lodge #1 FAM NJ J. Simpson Africa Lodge #628 FAM PA -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] International Scout w/ factory Nissan diesel on Ebay
Rory wrote: I would say that it would have been classified as a wagon, same as the Ford Bronco. Or in the vernacular of IH, International Scout, Anything less is just a car! The distinction between car and light truck wasn't important until CAFE came along and established different fuel economy standards for those two classes.
Re: [MBZ] OM617 water pump, (was Re: Quick Question (TimothyPilgrim))
If it's a water pump you need, don't waste your time getting it from the US. The price at Mercedes-Benz downtown is only CAN$120, plus a $92 core charge that is refunded when you bring back the old pump. By the time you get a US pump across the border and into CDN$, it's the same amount. Anyway, if you need a pump I happen to have an extra one you can buy. And actually Rusty does ship to Canada. I just bought a whole pile of stuff, and it all arrived just fine. The only killer part is the fact that it comes by UPS, which means that unless you SPECIFY a customs broker, you will get shafted with the UPS highway robbery customs brokerage charges. D. TimothyPilgrim wrote: Thanks Mitch and Loren. The short answer is that No, Rusty does not ship to Canada. I think it was due to past problems. Therefore, I won't be buying anything from him - I'll have to go to the dealer. Mitch, what are you describing regarding the rear bearing? The rear crank bearing or the rear pump bearing? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/25/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: On that note, replace just the seal or the whole water pump? My first thought is that the rear bearing has been running in antifreeze. What does a pump cost? I'm going to change all my accessory belts while I'm at it since they're quite worn. Rusty wants US76.29 for a Laso and US44.67 for a Geba. According to the pics, both have real cast turbine impellers, not stamped sheet metal fins. Does he ship to Canada?
Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry
Agreed - the gas sucking SLC won't be so bad to drive now -- I'm inspired to take more time off work and get it running. On 10/25/05, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to thank you guys for making me feel better. Here I had been feeling bad about getting 560SEL, especially after the gas price increase. Now I feel better about driving the 560SEL. Regards, Trampas -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] why does a gas engine create vacuum and a diesel does not?
John M McIntosh wrote: Well they use to also suck gasoline when you had carburettors, you need to control the fuel and air mixture to ensure best milage/combustion cycle. This gets at the point that there are actually *two* types of vacuum available on many gasoline engines: manifold vacuum and carburator vacuum. Manifold vacuum is created by the restriction of the throttle plate. It's highest when the throttle is closed, and drops to nearly 0 when the throttle is open. This is what powers your vacuum brake booster and all that other stuff that diesels have to have a vacuum pump to run. Carburator vacuum is caused by the Bernoulli effect. As air moves through the restricted area at the carburator throat it speeds up, creating a pressure drop. This helps atomize the gasoline in the carb. Carburator vacuum is related to the velocity of air going through the carb throat, so it's greatest at full throttle and high engine speeds. For that reason it's tapped off to control distributor advance, in many cars.
Re: [MBZ] Crumple zones
Peter Frederick wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, the Ponton was the first chassis with crumple zones and a rigid passenger compartment. the Adenauer was the last car built with a separate chassis with body bolted on. Makes Detroit's refusal to do anything to make cars safer look pretty shabby. Which was actually the point of Ralph Nader's book, Unsafe at Any Speed. I'd gotten the impression, from the automotive press, that it was mostly a diatribe against the Corvair's unusual handling characteristics. When I read it I was surprised to find that it was, in fact, mostly about other safety flaws that applied to many cars, and about the general lack of interest Detroit had in safety at the time. Problems like hard-surfaced dashboards, non-collapsible steering columns, chrome trim in the driver's eye line, and cars sold with tires that weren't designed to support their fully loaded weight. It's still an interesting read, just to see where we've come from.
[MBZ] (no subject)
What specific steps do I take to respond to a question, or to ask a question in this venue? Thanks, Jerry
Re: [MBZ] Trunk lock
Gerry, when you tried the vacuum pods, did they hold vacuum? Or is the problem that you can't get the vacuum pod to engage the lock, and the lock won't turn to use the key method? The previous owner of my car had a vacuum failure, and he had only a valet key. He got the trunk open by cutting a tab of metal behind the license plate and bending it open, to access the lock rod and manually move it into position so the release button would work. He bent the tab back and put some tape over it to seal the opening, and the license plate covers the wound. This is a rusty old car, though. If yours has a good body you might want to get the lock drilled instead.
Re: [MBZ] Terminal population
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:17:39 -0500 Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was the theory of Thomas Malthus. The industrial revolution disrupted his theory as I remember from my studies (Specifically, mechanized farming allowed more food to be grown). That is the problem with any equation that we develop to determine population load, we cannot foresee what changes future technology will have on the capacity of the Earth to sustain a population. http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/malthus/malthus.0.html Yes, how wrong Malthus had it! In addition, we humans are limiting our population ourselves without having to rely on any Malthusian causes. The world population will peak out about mid-century and then drop because societies are not reproducing at replacement rate. This is already a big problem in Germany and Italy. Craig
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
just ask it any way you like...they don't answer your questions unless you have a signature which shows your car model and year. On 10/25/05, Jerry Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What specific steps do I take to respond to a question, or to ask a question in this venue? Thanks, Jerry ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Sad Death
what novels of his, besides the davinci codes, did you read? On 10/25/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, darn! After reading a couple of novels by Dan Brown, I was rather intrigued by the supposed knights of the templar/rose (sp?) and the Masons - now you've gone and ruined it for me! On 10/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not replied to this thread because it seems to have nothing to do with MB. But Now I must speak. Lets not drag the Masons into a discussion where they don't belong. I am a Mason and have been one for 20 years. When I was a young man (14) I fell and broke my hip. I was sent to the Shriners Hospitals for crippled children (All Shriners are Masons) they took care of me and would not except a penny in return. I have seen no evidence of devil worship or cult like issues in them at all ever. (And I have taken the time to really look for it) If I don't pay my dues ($50) I get suspended from the lodge, I see no cults having that policy. George Washington and most of the sons of liberty were Masons as well as 13 signers of the declaration of independence. It was good enough from George Washington and I am pretty sure he would not join a cult. If a cult helps poor crippled kids walk for no charge,provide defibulators to our local schools, Sponsor the local DARE program, Help locate missing children with their child ID program, take care of widows and orphans, and dole out 80 million a year to charity in PA alone, Never asking for an ounce of credit, then I will sign up for it any day. I have been a business owner and A mason for a long time. Some businesses failed others did better, but I don't think I can park the failure of my business at the door of the Masons. George T. Mason, Past Master St. Johns Lodge #1 FAM NJ J. Simpson Africa Lodge #628 FAM PA -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Terminal population
Some how I doubut they have that problem in Utah or Mexico. On 10/25/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:17:39 -0500 Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was the theory of Thomas Malthus. The industrial revolution disrupted his theory as I remember from my studies (Specifically, mechanized farming allowed more food to be grown). That is the problem with any equation that we develop to determine population load, we cannot foresee what changes future technology will have on the capacity of the Earth to sustain a population. http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/malthus/malthus.0.html Yes, how wrong Malthus had it! In addition, we humans are limiting our population ourselves without having to rely on any Malthusian causes. The world population will peak out about mid-century and then drop because societies are not reproducing at replacement rate. This is already a big problem in Germany and Italy. Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Replacement key head
Sunil Hari wrote: Solution - complain to your MB dealer that the key head disintegrated, and get them to give you a new one. Not really an option -- the dealership I got the key from is a good 1900 miles away, now.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Jerry, To start a new thread: List the title in the subject type away. To respond to a thread: Just respond to the email - your response will be re-distribited to all list members. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Herrman Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] (no subject) What specific steps do I take to respond to a question, or to ask a question in this venue? Thanks, Jerry ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Crumple zones
The Corvair had two lethal problems, one by design and one by pure idiocy, I think -- to whit: the swing axle rear end was not protected against jacking, so at very high side loads the outside rear wheel could aquire so much camber that the rim would dig into the pavement. The resultant rollover combined with the totat lack of roof strength usually killed the passengers as their heads hit the pavement via the roof. This was avoided in the original design by a hook in the frame so that the control arm wouldn't travel that far, but Ed Cole demanded that it be removed because it cost $1.50 per car over leaving it off. It cost the executives at GM a lot more than that, all told, to bury the kids they had that rolled them, as every executive that had a teen driver got them a Corvair, and several were maimed or killed. The other idiocy, and I don't know if it was by design or just plan not looking, was that the steering column was solid, and the steering box was IN FRONT of the front axle. This was the preferred location for GM steering boxes until the Feds made them move them back in 1969. Naturally, a beer can has more structural rigidity than a 60's GM product, so the predictable result of hitting anything in the Corvair was that the steering wheel shot out of the dash and upwards, neatly breaking the driver's neck. This design feature was present up to 1969 when the collapsable steering column was installed, hopefully preventing any more unnecessary deaths. Fortunately, even the Japanese have figured out crash safety, so we can drive at the ridiculous speeds we do and not risk instant death in an accident (unless driving a US made SUV). Peter On Tuesday, October 25, 2005, at 10:47 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, the Ponton was the first chassis with crumple zones and a rigid passenger compartment. the Adenauer was the last car built with a separate chassis with body bolted on. Makes Detroit's refusal to do anything to make cars safer look pretty shabby. Which was actually the point of Ralph Nader's book, Unsafe at Any Speed. I'd gotten the impression, from the automotive press, that it was mostly a diatribe against the Corvair's unusual handling characteristics. When I read it I was surprised to find that it was, in fact, mostly about other safety flaws that applied to many cars, and about the general lack of interest Detroit had in safety at the time. Problems like hard-surfaced dashboards, non-collapsible steering columns, chrome trim in the driver's eye line, and cars sold with tires that weren't designed to support their fully loaded weight. It's still an interesting read, just to see where we've come from. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry
negative sir, have not topped the CD out...it pins out at 85. The SD, OTOH, reads to 120, and will almost make that. Top speed around 115 (so far). Kaleb, and yes, by definition, that makes me a reckless driver. I've only had the SD above 100 2 or 3 times (1 time in southern Missour...pulled over by a state trooper.). Now both of you, think about the design ideas that MB was using. I have 1 word for you AUTOBAN. Cars designed to be happy at 100+mph, just ask Dr. Marshall. Eh? On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:20:36 -0500, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 300SD top speed is 102mph, I believe...you must be talking of the CD, no? Top speed on the 87 300TD is 123mph and I EASILY hit 100 the other day. The SD was screaming across Texas and I only got to 99mph b4 a big truck wouldn't move out of the way. Chris -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale
And if someone did call you gay, why would that offend you? I mean, being gay is only immoral from a religious standpoint anyway... assuming you're not taking it with the old-school definition of showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry. -- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:31:54 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale Put it this way...Women are like cars; the less miles they have on 'em the better. I would rather drive a fresh new car with low miles and new car scent, theres nothing like a new car, when that car starts to squeek and rattle you simply trade her up. IMO nobody drives a used car by choice...myself, if I could easily afford it, I would be driving a brand spankin new diesel benz (coming in '06?) or AMG. P.S. It's just my opinion and my response was all in humor and not ment to upset anyone to the point of calling me gay, which probally reflects your own chimera. On 10/25/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you tell us how you really feel, Gabe. (Or is it Gayb?) O_o -- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:45:20 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale Adultery is only immoral from a religious standpoint.
Re: [MBZ] Snakeoil?
RUN AWAY VERY FAR AND EXTREMELY FAST. If you actually want the research, I'll dig it up on the Yahoo Biodiesel archives. Someone asks weekly about it there. On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:25:37 -0500, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dieselsecret.com/ Someone on the mog list posted this. They have a German technician so it must work:-) Hendrik ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] Trunk lock
tastefully added. Thanks. On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:52:33 -0500, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't try to make a copy of a crappy key. Get a new one from your local MB dealer. From your VIN code Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] MB Car Fax 1979 240 D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could anyone run a repot on a 1979 240 D vin 12312312094914. I would appreciate it. You can't run CarFax on cars prior to 80 or 81, Tom. CarFax does not recognize the old VIN format (it wants WDB__ etc). Mac
Re: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel
- Original Message - IIRC there is more difference between between spark ignition and compression ignition than the fuel and ignition source. The two are idealized with different thermodynamic cycles. Spark ignitioin (SI) uses the Otto cycle which sucks in the fuel/air charge during the intake stroke. After compression, pressure from the chemical reaction almost spikes, then decreases during the power stroke. In the CI, or Diesel cycle, only air is sucked in during the intake stroke. It is compressed to heat the air charge. Then the fuel is injected and reacted durring the power stroke which occurs at approximately constant pressure. It depends when the fuel is injected, but the Honda HCCI sound like a diesel to me. After all, the fuel name does not identify the thermo cycle. I believe Rudi tried to run his first engine on pulverized coal. (too much melted ash to be practical). At the current prices of diesel fuel vs gasoline, a gasoline fueled diesel sounds pretty good to me. Ned Kleinhenz ___ Didn't the army have a truck during the Viet Nam war that would run on either gasoline or diesel? Gerry Archer
[MBZ] Trunk lock
Many thanks to: Thomas E. Potter, Steve Van Cleve, Don Merriman, Levi Smith, Dave M., Mitch Haley, Christopher McCann, Kevin Kraly, Randy Bennell, Luther Gulseth, Gabriel S., Rick Knoble, Mike Boerner, Dennis Perkins, Lt. Don, David Brodbeck, and Steve McSween for the suggestions on getting the trunk lid open. I'm going to try each one before drilling out the lock. If I have to drill out the lock and that doesn't work, I might try Gabriel S.', but I'll probably make a rumble seat out of it. The first car in my family back in the 1930s, an Oakland, had a rumble seat and it was great. (o:] Sincerely, Gerry Archer '83 240D + 300D
Re: [MBZ] MB Car Fax 1979 240 D
Yes, I have never been able to run a CARFAX on my '79. Dwight Giles 1979 240D auto 244k + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 127K miles Wickford, RI - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Car Fax 1979 240 D Tom Scordato wrote: Could anyone run a repot on a 1979 240 D vin 12312312094914. I would appreciate it. Not through carfax, that's the old numbering scheme, which carfax never collected data on. Need the 17 character WDB numbers that came along in 1980 or 1981. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Asking questions
Message: 18 Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:58:44 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 just ask it any way you like...they don't answer your questions unless you have a signature which shows your car model and year. On 10/25/05, Jerry Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What specific steps do I take to respond to a question, or to ask a question in this venue? Thanks, Jerry Hi Jerry - As another newbie it can be a bit confusing. What I do is workable, others do it other ways: 1. copy just the part I want to respond to 2. hit reply, click on edit/'select all', the delete everything - OR - just do a 'new' post and address it to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 3. paste the part you are responding to onto the blank page and add an appropriate subject in the subject line. 4. Type away It is a good group - though [thankfully] a bit strange at times. Some figure that since most any thoughts or activities can be done in a Mercedes it fits a MB discussion, and if not, everyone has a delete key. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 265K / 200K engine [?] 8 weeks and three engines later I hope to have kinks out by the weekend
Re: [MBZ] MB Car Fax 1979 240 D
Mitch thans for trying, Tom - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Car Fax 1979 240 D Tom Scordato wrote: Could anyone run a repot on a 1979 240 D vin 12312312094914. I would appreciate it. Not through carfax, that's the old numbering scheme, which carfax never collected data on. Need the 17 character WDB numbers that came along in 1980 or 1981. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] why does a gas engine create vacuum and a diesel does not?
I'd kind of wondered on the specifics of this myself. I *think* I might be starting to get a better handle on it now... So, what I'm hearing is basically that on a gas engine with a throttle plate, when the cylinders are drawing in air, the throttle plate is a restriction which is what creates vacuum. Whereas with a diesel, there is no throttle plate and therefore no restriction (at least not much of one) so we have no vacuum. I would assume that technically speaking there must be *some* vacuum as air is getting sucked in, but without the restriction, probably not enough to be of any use. And of course this is mostly null and void on turbo/supercharged vehicles when producing boost as at that point the intake is under a positive pressure situation. Am I more or less on the right track here? Thanks! Levi On 10/25/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John M McIntosh wrote: Well they use to also suck gasoline when you had carburettors, you need to control the fuel and air mixture to ensure best milage/combustion cycle. This gets at the point that there are actually *two* types of vacuum available on many gasoline engines: manifold vacuum and carburator vacuum. Manifold vacuum is created by the restriction of the throttle plate. It's highest when the throttle is closed, and drops to nearly 0 when the throttle is open. This is what powers your vacuum brake booster and all that other stuff that diesels have to have a vacuum pump to run. Carburator vacuum is caused by the Bernoulli effect. As air moves through the restricted area at the carburator throat it speeds up, creating a pressure drop. This helps atomize the gasoline in the carb. Carburator vacuum is related to the velocity of air going through the carb throat, so it's greatest at full throttle and high engine speeds. For that reason it's tapped off to control distributor advance, in many cars. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] why does a gas engine create vacuum and a diesel does not?
You have pretty much got it. Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 7:38 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] why does a gas engine create vacuum and a diesel does not? I'd kind of wondered on the specifics of this myself. I *think* I might be starting to get a better handle on it now... So, what I'm hearing is basically that on a gas engine with a throttle plate, when the cylinders are drawing in air, the throttle plate is a restriction which is what creates vacuum. Whereas with a diesel, there is no throttle plate and therefore no restriction (at least not much of one) so we have no vacuum. I would assume that technically speaking there must be *some* vacuum as air is getting sucked in, but without the restriction, probably not enough to be of any use. And of course this is mostly null and void on turbo/supercharged vehicles when producing boost as at that point the intake is under a positive pressure situation. Am I more or less on the right track here? Thanks! Levi On 10/25/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John M McIntosh wrote: Well they use to also suck gasoline when you had carburettors, you need to control the fuel and air mixture to ensure best milage/combustion cycle. This gets at the point that there are actually *two* types of vacuum available on many gasoline engines: manifold vacuum and carburator vacuum. Manifold vacuum is created by the restriction of the throttle plate. It's highest when the throttle is closed, and drops to nearly 0 when the throttle is open. This is what powers your vacuum brake booster and all that other stuff that diesels have to have a vacuum pump to run. Carburator vacuum is caused by the Bernoulli effect. As air moves through the restricted area at the carburator throat it speeds up, creating a pressure drop. This helps atomize the gasoline in the carb. Carburator vacuum is related to the velocity of air going through the carb throat, so it's greatest at full throttle and high engine speeds. For that reason it's tapped off to control distributor advance, in many cars. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale
Not saying I agree with your analogy, but if you get the right car from the start, there is no need to trade it. Sure you have to take care of it, but that's true with any car. I'd rather polish the car I know will be around then put time into one that is getting traded in anyway. And when that day comes that you get your first little car, it's a good thing to have the original model around. Dave W 1 Original Model that I will never trade 4 little versions of the original 3 benz's 1 Yukon XL Put it this way...Women are like cars; the less miles they have on 'em the better. I would rather drive a fresh new car with low miles and new car scent, theres nothing like a new car, when that car starts to squeek and rattle you simply trade her up. IMO nobody drives a used car by choice...myself, if I could easily afford it, I would be driving a brand spankin new diesel benz (coming in '06?) or AMG. P.S. It's just my opinion and my response was all in humor and not ment to upset anyone to the point of calling me gay, which probally reflects your own chimera.
Re: [MBZ] Sad Death
Angels and Demons and Digital Fortress (no Mason's here). There are also similar references in Umberto Eco's Foulcault's Pendulum. On 10/25/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what novels of his, besides the davinci codes, did you read? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry
Is that like a filter that automatically forwards posts to the banned list based on key words? Oh, I think you were refering to Autobahn -- German highways! Now both of you, think about the design ideas that MB was using. I have 1 word for you AUTOBAN. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] OM617 water pump, (was Re: Quick Question (TimothyPilgrim))
Thanks for some good info David. I didn't know he actually shipped to UPS, but as an angry Canuck, I refuse to deal with people/companies who only ship to Canada with UPS. That horrible example of a money-gouging company... Argh. You've got a spare pump? Is it new? I guess I don't get that nice little core refund if I buy your though, eh? I think I'll check with the dealer to see if they've got one in stock. I'd like to install it this weekend. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/25/05, David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's a water pump you need, don't waste your time getting it from the US. The price at Mercedes-Benz downtown is only CAN$120, plus a $92 core charge that is refunded when you bring back the old pump. By the time you get a US pump across the border and into CDN$, it's the same amount. Anyway, if you need a pump I happen to have an extra one you can buy. And actually Rusty does ship to Canada. I just bought a whole pile of stuff, and it all arrived just fine. The only killer part is the fact that it comes by UPS, which means that unless you SPECIFY a customs broker, you will get shafted with the UPS highway robbery customs brokerage charges. D. TimothyPilgrim wrote: Thanks Mitch and Loren. The short answer is that No, Rusty does not ship to Canada. I think it was due to past problems. Therefore, I won't be buying anything from him - I'll have to go to the dealer. Mitch, what are you describing regarding the rear bearing? The rear crank bearing or the rear pump bearing? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/25/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: On that note, replace just the seal or the whole water pump? My first thought is that the rear bearing has been running in antifreeze. What does a pump cost? I'm going to change all my accessory belts while I'm at it since they're quite worn. Rusty wants US76.29 for a Laso and US44.67 for a Geba. According to the pics, both have real cast turbine impellers, not stamped sheet metal fins. Does he ship to Canada?
Re: [MBZ] why does a gas engine create vacuum and a diesel does not?
Bzzzt - wrong. The same volume flowing through a smaller area in the same time span requires higher speed. Higher speed produces lower pressure. The fuel is literally sucked out of the carburator porportionaly to the speed of the air - more vacuum (lower manifold pressure)=faster air through the ventury=lower pressure=more fuel sprayed into the air=more power. Posibly a minor point - the low pressure area is just behind the narrowest part of the venturi, so yes, there would be an increase of pressure as th air is squezzed into the smaller area, then a decrease as it expands on the other side. However, it is the lowered pressure that sucks the fuel from the jets -- -- On 10/26/05, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure you are not referring to the Venturi principle? When a large volume of material is made to fit through a smaller diameter hole(such as the venturi in a carb) the pressure INCREASES. The increases airflow and turbulence atomize the gasoline as it comes out of either the injector in a TBI or the jet in a carb. Mike -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry
So wierd... I noticed on the way to work today that diesel had again DROPPED this time $0.06 to $2.79. Gas is $2.55 so I'm not doing the happy dance but its still much cheaper for me to drive Hammie than my pickup truck. I drove all the way to work today without exceeding 70mph (I got up early and had the time) most of the way I cruised at 60mph which incidentally is where Hammie sounds the happiest. I'm going to make an effort to go slow on the way home too, I'm curious if I can get my best mileage ever number above 32mpg. -Curt '83 240D Hammie 247kmi Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:38:16 -0500 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I filled up my wife's gas guzzling Ford Explorer 4X4 yesterday. Gas was $2.13. I also filled up my MB diesel and it was $3.35. If I took both of these on the highway and used 20 gallons. I could travel 400 miles in the Explorer and 680 miles in my benz. At the cost of fuel, it would cost me less per mile to drive the gaz guzzling SUV. The cost per mile is 9.39 cents per mile (fuel only) and 10.15 cents per mile to drive the benz. I understand that the SUV is going to get much worse mileage in the city and then the benz is going to be far cheaper. I also understand that a mix of the two, the benz might still be slightly cheaper, but come on, if I want to take a long trip, it does not make sense to drive the SUV. Who knew that getting 34-35 mpg wouldn't be enough? Donald H. Snook - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 26 13:17:03 2005 Received: from outmail.yourhostingaccount.com ([65.254.254.77] helo=mailout07.yourhostingaccount.com) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EUl9L-00069B-Bi for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:17:03 + Received: from scan10.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.1.240] helo=scan10.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout07.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1EUl9E-0001zi-QV for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:16:56 -0400 Received: from authsmtp04.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.4] ident=exim) by scan10.yourhostingaccount.com with spamscanlookuphost (Exim) id 1EUl9D-00066w-FY for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:16:55 -0400 Received: from authsmtp04.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.4] helo=authsmtp04.yourhostingaccount.com) by scan10.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1EUl92-00063f-QL for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:16:44 -0400 Received: from [131.128.106.196] (helo=universia74613) by authsmtp04.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1EUl8x-0006kz-L2 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:16:39 -0400 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:16:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-EN-UserInfo: 55e75b7913e73a971f86d856f345b6b6:e66273388a0850bc5af5ff3113079cd3 X-EN-AuthUser: d30023426-webmaster Sender: John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:17:03 - I'm wondering what happened that caused the 96-99 bodies to rust - here in the North East, I see loads of '87 - '95 124's with perfect paint and bodies- even with the horrible salt we get. But I see many of the newer style with rust, especially on the rear trunk and front fenders. Did MB change their metal, thickness or coatings? Why would they do that- they sure got things right on the 124's. John Peterson Kingston, RI 1991 300D 2.5 74k - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:06 AM
[MBZ] Cruise Control Question
On my 83 300SD the cruise control will not hold the desired speed. I can use the accelerate function to get the vehicle up to speed. I can also keep my foot on the accelerator and feel the cruise control trying to hold the vehicle at speed until it eventually gives up. Yesterday I cleaned and lubed the cruise control linkages with ATF. Also cleaned the #12 fuse block. Car had same issues this morning. Any ideas? Thanks, Fred Johnson 1977 240D 1983 300SD Chicago __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Sad Death
I've got Foucault's Pendulum sitting here on my desk. Let me check... Yup, I made it to page 46 before I called it quits. Now I'm an intelligent guy who love science, philosophy and espionage, but I just couldn't get into it. Must be the mangled Italian to English translation. I've read Demons Angels and The DaVinci Code by Dan Brown and loved them. Next is Digital Fortress and Deception Point, which my wife has just finished. I'm actually on Donald James' Monstrum right now. We at the office tend to pass books around like wildfire. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/26/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angels and Demons and Digital Fortress (no Mason's here). There are also similar references in Umberto Eco's Foulcault's Pendulum. On 10/25/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what novels of his, besides the davinci codes, did you read? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Sad Death
Foucault's Pendulum is good if you can get past that beginning - it was a lot of work. I don't know why I persevered, but it was a good book in a perverse sort of way. Deception Point is next on my list. On 10/26/05, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got Foucault's Pendulum sitting here on my desk. Let me check... Yup, I made it to page 46 before I called it quits. Now I'm an intelligent guy who love science, philosophy and espionage, but I just couldn't get into it. Must be the mangled Italian to English translation. I've read Demons Angels and The DaVinci Code by Dan Brown and loved them. Next is Digital Fortress and Deception Point, which my wife has just finished. I'm actually on Donald James' Monstrum right now. We at the office tend to pass books around like wildfire. Tim 1982 300TD Moby -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] motor Mounts/1990 300D 2.5
I was afraid that you might do your homework ;-) On 10/26/05, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Don wrote: Put the new mounts on the floorboard, knock a couple of hours worth of work off the price, and I'd be real happy to buy it from you -- -- (depending on the final price, of course). I might just do that, Don. That way I don't have to spend a Saturday afternoon drinking beer and scraping my knuckles, I can just spend it drinking beer and watching Mizzou beat KU (that is the plan this Saturday). When I figure out a price I will let you know. I know that a 1991 124 diesel (with 187K miles) sold for $7600 on ebay. I also know that mine is a year older, has more miles (244K), and my cruise doesn't work. I know mine is every bit as nice, but I recognize that I will not get that much for mine. I found two other 91 and 92's that were selling for $6000 (one with 250K) and another for $6500 with (241K). So, I suspect that I will ask less than $6000. I do know the range of these cars if they are in good shape is from about 4-6K and mine is in excellent shape. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry
I think we need Marshall to chime in here with official top speed numbers. I am almost certain I saw 102 for the SD, which means I have a hard time seeing yours going 115 - not saying you are lying, just wondering what's not right here - maybe my car and my firgures...? Anyone got official figs and if SD is 102 tops, why does Luther's go 115...wrong size tires? Chris --- Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: negative sir, have not topped the CD out...it pins out at 85. The SD, OTOH, reads to 120, and will almost make that. Top speed around 115 (so far). Kaleb, and yes, by definition, that makes me a reckless driver. I've only had the SD above 100 2 or 3 times (1 time in southern Missour...pulled over by a state trooper.). Now both of you, think about the design ideas that MB was using. I have 1 word for you AUTOBAN. Cars designed to be happy at 100+mph, just ask Dr. Marshall. Eh? On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:20:36 -0500, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 300SD top speed is 102mph, I believe...you must be talking of the CD, no? Top speed on the 87 300TD is 123mph and I EASILY hit 100 the other day. The SD was screaming across Texas and I only got to 99mph b4 a big truck wouldn't move out of the way. Chris -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale
nobody drives a used car by choice. If I hit the lotto and won 180 million, I would buy MANY used cars...and prolly not one new one. Chris --- Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if someone did call you gay, why would that offend you? I mean, being gay is only immoral from a religious standpoint anyway... assuming you're not taking it with the old-school definition of showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry. -- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:31:54 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale Put it this way...Women are like cars; the less miles they have on 'em the better. I would rather drive a fresh new car with low miles and new car scent, theres nothing like a new car, when that car starts to squeek and rattle you simply trade her up. IMO nobody drives a used car by choice...myself, if I could easily afford it, I would be driving a brand spankin new diesel benz (coming in '06?) or AMG. P.S. It's just my opinion and my response was all in humor and not ment to upset anyone to the point of calling me gay, which probally reflects your own chimera. On 10/25/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you tell us how you really feel, Gabe. (Or is it Gayb?) O_o -- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:45:20 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale Adultery is only immoral from a religious standpoint. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Question
Rusty DOES ship to Canada. We use USPS to save you customs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TimothyPilgrim Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:52 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick Question Thanks Mitch and Loren. The short answer is that No, Rusty does not ship to Canada. I think it was due to past problems. Therefore, I won't be buying anything from him - I'll have to go to the dealer. Mitch, what are you describing regarding the rear bearing? The rear crank bearing or the rear pump bearing? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/25/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: On that note, replace just the seal or the whole water pump? My first thought is that the rear bearing has been running in antifreeze. What does a pump cost? I'm going to change all my accessory belts while I'm at it since they're quite worn. Rusty wants US76.29 for a Laso and US44.67 for a Geba. According to the pics, both have real cast turbine impellers, not stamped sheet metal fins. Does he ship to Canada? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Quick Question
Unless you call and get Hursty. Ask for Rusty himself in person. ___ GG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:02 AM To: 'Mercedes mailing list' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick Question Rusty DOES ship to Canada. We use USPS to save you customs.
Re: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?
John, I believe Mercedes changed their rust-prevention procedures on the later chassis, from roughly the mid-1990's forward. Why do that? The main motivation was probably cost savings. (Yeah - BAD decision!) But there could have possibly been some environmental concerns as well. The W124 was excellent for rust prevention. The W210 has an awful reputation in the rust belt, both in USA and overseas. All my W124's are from the west coast and are 100% rust-free, including the underbody. :-) Dave M. Bo -- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:16:01 -0400 From: John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust? I'm wondering what happened that caused the 96-99 bodies to rust - here in the North East, I see loads of '87 - '95 124's with perfect paint and bodies- even with the horrible salt we get. But I see many of the newer style with rust, especially on the rear trunk and front fenders. Did MB change their metal, thickness or coatings? Why would they do that- they sure got things right on the 124's. John Peterson Kingston, RI 1991 300D 2.5 74k
Re: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?
Hi John,
I'm afraid I don't have an answer for you, but if you hear anything I'd
appreciate hearing what you're told. A few months ago I got a note from a
guy wanting my help finding out about MBs claims for rust protection. I did
some research and could not find any reference to Rust Protection in MBs
websites and/or their brochures. They talk a lot about quality but
there's no mention of rust protection. (Maybe someone will prove me wrong?)
;-) I also went thru 10 + years of sales brochures (I have a small
collection) without finding anything specific to rust or corrosion
prevention. They have vague implications about quality but that's it. I
think they must be depending on their past history to provide a positive
image/reputation.
The guy who asked me for help had a 2000 S-430 he had bought new and it
developed severe corrosion problems. The paint came off in sheets from his
fenders, rockers, lower doors, etc. with the dealer and MB-USA not
accepting any blame nor providing any assistance.
The only thing he could find was a rumor that '00-'02 W222s (? - not
sure about the chassis #) had some bad spot welds around the fenders - but
that's a unconfirmed rumor attributed to a MB shop manager.
He planned to take MB to court - after spending time researching MBs
claims of rust corrosion proection - but I haven't heard any thing about
his case.
It really surprised me to be unable to locate any info about MBs rust
protection. I was almost ready to swear I'd seen something. ;-)
As I said, please include me if you hear anything outside Kaleb's MB
list.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
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Re: [MBZ] Quick Question
Correct. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Gregory Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:09 AM To: 'Mercedes mailing list' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick Question Unless you call and get Hursty. Ask for Rusty himself in person. ___ GG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:02 AM To: 'Mercedes mailing list' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick Question Rusty DOES ship to Canada. We use USPS to save you customs. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?
Mercedes did have some paint problems in the late nineties. They where trying to use a more enviromentally paint on their cars and it just was not up to the job. Plenty of W210 owners not happy. Not sure about the other classes so much but I have seen plenty of pics of 210's with unacceptable corrosion within a couple of years use. Hendrik who has a 123 that rusts less tham some 210's - Original Message - From: John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:46 PM Subject: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust? I'm wondering what happened that caused the 96-99 bodies to rust - here in the North East, I see loads of '87 - '95 124's with perfect paint and bodies- even with the horrible salt we get. But I see many of the newer style with rust, especially on the rear trunk and front fenders. Did MB change their metal, thickness or coatings? Why would they do that- they sure got things right on the 124's. John Peterson Kingston, RI 1991 300D 2.5 74k - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry Is that like a filter that automatically forwards posts to the banned list based on key words? Oh, I think you were refering to Autobahn -- German highways! Now both of you, think about the design ideas that MB was using. I have 1 word for you AUTOBAN. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/149 - Release Date: 25/10/2005
Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Question
Fred, This sounds like a classic case of a failed or failing cruise amplifier. New ones are outrageously expensive ($600+ wholesale!). You should be able to get a rebuilt unit for under $200 last time I checked. Give Rusty a call. Another option is 'resoldering' the circuit board, but this has mixed results and requires some basic electronic skills. :-) -dm -- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 06:17:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Cruise Control Question On my 83 300SD the cruise control will not hold the desired speed. I can use the accelerate function to get the vehicle up to speed. I can also keep my foot on the accelerator and feel the cruise control trying to hold the vehicle at speed until it eventually gives up. Yesterday I cleaned and lubed the cruise control linkages with ATF. Also cleaned the #12 fuse block. Car had same issues this morning. Any ideas? Thanks, Fred Johnson 1977 240D 1983 300SD Chicago
Re: [MBZ] motor Mounts/1990 300D 2.5
Guess my '93 with 175K was a pretty good deal at $6K. :) It's locationally challenged (for me...Boston-Raleigh), but a $150 plane ticket and a tank of fuel will fix that. Lee On 10/26/05, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Don wrote: When I figure out a price I will let you know. I know that a 1991 124 diesel (with 187K miles) sold for $7600 on ebay. I also know that mine is a year older, has more miles (244K), and my cruise doesn't work. I know mine is every bit as nice, but I recognize that I will not get that much for mine. I found two other 91 and 92's that were selling for $6000 (one with 250K) and another for $6500 with (241K). So, I suspect that I will ask less than $6000. I do know the range of these cars if they are in good shape is from about 4-6K and mine is in excellent shape.
Re: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?
John Peterson wrote: I'm wondering what happened that caused the 96-99 bodies to rust - here in the North East, I see loads of '87 - '95 124's with perfect paint and bodies- even with the horrible salt we get. But I see many of the newer style with rust, especially on the rear trunk and front fenders. Did MB change their metal, thickness or coatings? Why would they do that- they sure got things right on the 124's. It is my understanding that the German government's drive in the early/mid '90s to set requirements eventually requiring recycling 100% of a car without provision for extended testing and the fact that the manufacturer had to bear all recycling costs, caused Mercedes to drastically alter MANY process that had been developed and proved to be effective over the years. Some of the changes (the biodegradable wiring harness, alteration of metal preparation, the composition of some plastics and painting processes) caused serious problems that did not become evident during the brief testing period before the legislation became effective, but only after the cars had been in the REAL world for 5-10 years. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] MB Car Fax 1979 240 D
its too old Tom Scordato wrote: Could anyone run a repot on a 1979 240 D vin 12312312094914. I would appreciate it. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale David M. Barked:
Hey Dave M. why don't you just stop your barking already? I really don't feel like getting into it with you. /\ /\ / \---._ / / ` `\ \ \ `'@)@) /` ~ ~._ / `() / \ (` ,_.:. / / ~ `\ (vVV / |`\_ `^^^/ ___/|_ `---' (_Dave M.) _ _/~ | `(_) _/~ \ _/~ | _/~ | _/~ | _/~ ~. | _/~ \ /\ __/~ /`\ `|| _/~ ~~-._ /~ \ || /~ ~./~' \ |) / ~. \ )| / : | || | : | || | .' | || __.-` __.'--. | |`---. .-~ ___. __.--~`--. | `---.))) `---~~ `-...--.) \_) On 10/25/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if someone did call you gay, why would that offend you? I mean, being gay is only immoral from a religious standpoint anyway... assuming you're not taking it with the old-school definition of showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry. -- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:31:54 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale Put it this way...Women are like cars; the less miles they have on 'em the better. I would rather drive a fresh new car with low miles and new car scent, theres nothing like a new car, when that car starts to squeek and rattle you simply trade her up. IMO nobody drives a used car by choice...myself, if I could easily afford it, I would be driving a brand spankin new diesel benz (coming in '06?) or AMG. P.S. It's just my opinion and my response was all in humor and not ment to upset anyone to the point of calling me gay, which probally reflects your own chimera. On 10/25/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you tell us how you really feel, Gabe. (Or is it Gayb?) O_o -- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:45:20 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale Adultery is only immoral from a religious standpoint. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Trunk lock
I have not been paying attention. If your trunk lock is stuck, you can get it open by selecting the tail light that is in the worse shape, busting it out completely then reaching in thru the opening to gain access to the panel that covers the locking mechanism and unlock it from the inside. Just be sure to have a replacement tail light on hand. Archer wrote: Many thanks to: Thomas E. Potter, Steve Van Cleve, Don Merriman, Levi Smith, Dave M., Mitch Haley, Christopher McCann, Kevin Kraly, Randy Bennell, Luther Gulseth, Gabriel S., Rick Knoble, Mike Boerner, Dennis Perkins, Lt. Don, David Brodbeck, and Steve McSween for the suggestions on getting the trunk lid open. I'm going to try each one before drilling out the lock. If I have to drill out the lock and that doesn't work, I might try Gabriel S.', but I'll probably make a rumble seat out of it. The first car in my family back in the 1930s, an Oakland, had a rumble seat and it was great. (o:] Sincerely, Gerry Archer '83 240D + 300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
