Re: [MBZ] Fuel pressure test kits for K-jetronic(CIS)

2006-01-10 Thread Kevin
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 03:34:28PM -0800, Steve  Marci wrote:
 Do you guys know if that $57 one from from CJW would do me any good on my 
 12 valve Cummins??  Thats the puppy I read about, needing a test gauge for, 
 so it might be a good idea to have one. Thanks

Generally speaking, it was the 24v cummins that you needed the fuel pressure
gauge on to make sure the lift pump doesn't go low pressure and take out the
$3000+ injector pump.  The 12v engines aren't necessarily known for that 
failure, but the 24v series is.

K



Re: [MBZ] It's a Gas

2006-01-10 Thread Mitch Haley
John Peterson wrote:
   Should I walk?  The car is $3700.

I thought you said the diesels were too expensive.
That seems to be the going rate for a 1987 turbo
with 100-125k. Decent 16v gassers might go 5-7k
and probably won't depreciate.



Re: [MBZ] Fuel pressure test kits for K-jetronic(CIS)

2006-01-10 Thread Mitch Haley
Kevin wrote:
  
 Generally speaking, it was the 24v cummins that you needed the fuel pressure
 gauge on to make sure the lift pump doesn't go low pressure and take out the
 $3000+ injector pump.  The 12v engines aren't necessarily known for that
 failure, but the 24v series is.

And I'd want an electric gauge running full-time like an oil pressure gauge.



Re: [MBZ] '91 190E 2.6

2006-01-10 Thread RELNGSON
So, don't beat me up too hard.  I bought a '91 190E 2.6 gasser this week. 
It
has 99k.  Everything works on it.

Looking at the pictures, I notice that the nameplates on the trunk lid are 
reversed which means the lid was replaced after the last accident. 190E goes on 
the left side.

RLE


Re: [MBZ] 240 vs SD Go Trucks

2006-01-10 Thread redghost
changed out the rear lamps on Gump so that she would have rear fogs, 
and maybe get rid of the water seeping in


On Sunday, January 8, 2006, at 12:14 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Rear fog light?  Two of our MB's have them now.  (Frankenheap and the
for-sale SL.)  My SL has it about half-installed, the wire is coiled
under the back seat.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] I need your help on how to finalize a vehicle purchase on eBay!

2006-01-10 Thread redghost

OMAR

Run away!

The POS SDL was an eBay car and a total rip off.   It was in TX and I 
was 2300 miles away.  Used Paypal and when the deal went bad, was out 
the cash.  I should have had round trip tix, and cash.  When it turned 
into a really bad idea, I could have just walked away instead of trying 
to drive home.


If you ship the car, there is a bunch of time eaten in transport that 
you may need for dispute resolution on ebay since they will screw you 
if you do not follow it TO THE LETTER.  Ebay just screwed me over when 
I tried to get their assistance.   I think they eventually kicked the 
seller off after he sold four or five junkers in a row and the others 
were able to get their transactions canceled and complained to paypal


YMMV

On Sunday, January 8, 2006, at 01:14 PM, kayoooh @ gmail wrote:


Hello Listers,
I am enlisting the help of all of you who bought cars through the web,
especially eBay.

I am used to buying things on eBay but never a vehicle which is 
exactly what
just did when I bought a truck on eBay and it sits over a thousand 
miles

away from me.

Hence my question, how should this transaction be finalized, short of 
me

traveling there(which is extremely difficult right now)!?

I am hoping those of you who have done it before would give me 
pointers on

what to do and what not to do,
should I use an escrow service? Where can I find a reliable one and are
there reliable ones to begin with?!

If I opt to ship the truck, are there companies I should avoid and 
others I

should go with and who are they?

I followed the link on eBay's web site to the DAS Auto shippers but it 
is

not working, at least not for me or the computer I am using right now.

Any bit of advice from you will be highly regarded.

Thank you,

Omar.


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Re: [MBZ] Of interest to dieselheads

2006-01-10 Thread dave walton
The additive package is modified as the sulphur content is lowered to
maintain compatibility with older diesel engines.

-Dave Walton
94 S350, 99 E300

On 1/9/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 -Original Message-

 The 3.2 V-6 CDI engine has been out in Europe for almost a year already.
 And they expect that the US market will have low sulphur fuel by summer
 2006, ahead of the federally mandated 2007 deadline.  I'm also expecting the
 ML CDI as well as S-class 4.0 V-8 CDIs before long.
 You might recall that the recent records made with the CDIs in the US have
 been with imported fuel!
 Werner



 So, is low sulphur fuel compatitble with the older diesel engines?

 Randy


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Re: [MBZ] It's a Gas

2006-01-10 Thread Henry Kolesnik

Very nice, care to say how much?
tnx

73
Hank WD5JFR
- Original Message - 
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Subject: [MBZ] It's a Gas


So, don't beat me up too hard.  I bought a '91 190E 2.6 gasser this week. 
It

has 99k.  Everything works on it.

I haven't picked it up yet.  I plan to use it winters while the diesel is
hibernating from the road salt here in RI.

It is a 201 with one owner- all records, original paint.  Accident cracked
front bumper plastic, which was replaced.  Owner showed all body panels 
and

matching numbers etc.

It has the blue MBtex which I love- and I hear that the 2.6 is a reliable
and powerful motor.  Yes, I know there is little space under the hood and
that the water pumps tend to fail with 120k on them.

Does anyone have a gasser 190?  What experiences have you had?  I wanted a
diesel, but the diesel 190's go for foolish prices and I just can't afford
them.

See photos at http://www.immersionstudio.com/190.asp

Anyways, it is a benz and that means fun driving and pulling it apart.

John Peterson
Kingston RI 1991 300D 2.5 77k


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Re: [MBZ] Can't resist a good deal

2006-01-10 Thread redghost

Bruce,

try to snag the 2.5 190D instead


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http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/123669835.html

  Doh!

B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Any opinions on this?


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Re: [MBZ] I need your help on how to finalize a vehicle purchase on eBay!

2006-01-10 Thread redghost

Ed,

I would check any car out you are interested in, and may even be 
willing to deliver it to you.  May take about four days of HARD driving 
to get there, but it would be an adventure


On Sunday, January 8, 2006, at 07:51 PM, Ed Booher wrote:


On 1/8/06, kayoooh @ gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Listers,
I am enlisting the help of all of you who bought cars through the web,
especially eBay.


I agree with others who have voiced their opinion. I have yet to buy a
car via eBay, personally. But I've bid on a few. I made sure all of
them were close enough to see without too much trouble. You'll see me
gripe quite a bit about Seattle being 2,274 miles away and across a
desert from Indianapolis. Lot's of good stuff from out there, it
seems.

Either way, I would never buy anything that requires government
intervention (ie title) and licensing via Money Order and UPS. Even if
you don't drive it back and you do contract a hauler to bring it to
you, you should go to the car, check it before you pay, and take the
title directly from Previous Owner.

If it isn't what was represented in the ad, I wouldn't pay for it
either. Sure it will really annoy the PO, but if the thing is sitting
on blocks and has rust in every panel of sheet metal and the pics on
the website are from 5 years ago when it was still running, better to
find out before you have the title signed over to you.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D for LA folks

2006-01-10 Thread redghost
Damn, I would drive it back here.  Then put it on Craigslist and sell 
it for three times that as ready for biodiesel


On Sunday, January 8, 2006, at 08:32 PM, B Dike wrote:


 http://losangeles.craigslist.org/car/122768197.html


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Owner 57166527: AutoTrader.com: Vehicle Lead 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300SDL

2006-01-10 Thread OK Don
So buy it! You ALWAYS need more than one MB.

On 1/9/06, donald snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice SDL here in Kansas on Auto Trader. I can get more
 information for you. SON OF A BITCH! this is the car I
 was looking for.


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Re: [MBZ] Fuel pressure test kits for K-jetronic(CIS)

2006-01-10 Thread OK Don
Just the one for Bosch.

On 1/9/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 that one works OK?  I will have to order that then.  Do you have to
 order both of those kits listed there or just the bosch one?


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Owner 57166527: AutoTrader.com: Vehicle Lead 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300SDL

2006-01-10 Thread Kevin
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 06:59:52PM -0600, OK Don wrote:
 So buy it! You ALWAYS need more than one MB.

Or, buy it and off the 300SE after you're happy with it.

K



Re: [MBZ] It's a Gas

2006-01-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Half again more than I paid for my 190D but less than half the mileage...
   
  If he can't come up with a good reason for the swapped badges walk. When I 
started looking for my 190D my Indy knew of a couple 190Es. If you want I can 
get you his number.
   
  -Curt
  '83 240D 251kmi Hammie
  '85 190D 233kmi
   
  Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 18:29:18 -0500
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The owner said that that the collision was front-end- and that the 
bumper 
cover was replaced.

I'm starting to think I should walk- I don't want to drive 3 hours just 
to 
find a wreck.  The guy's feedback is 99.7 and he really does seem 
honest.

I wrote the guy asking about the numbers. Let's see how he responds.

  Should I walk?  The car is $3700.

TIA  John Peterson




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my understanding of this is that sulphur doesn't do anything good for the 
engine, but the removal process decreases lubricity.
  
  Will we have to add lubricity enhancers all the time now? what does the 
additive package do - increase the lubricity?

dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  The additive package is modified as the 
sulphur content is lowered to
maintain compatibility with older diesel engines.

-Dave Walton
94 S350, 99 E300

On 1/9/06, R A Bennell  wrote:


 -Original Message-

 The 3.2 V-6 CDI engine has been out in Europe for almost a year already.
 And they expect that the US market will have low sulphur fuel by summer
 2006, ahead of the federally mandated 2007 deadline.  I'm also expecting the
 ML CDI as well as S-class 4.0 V-8 CDIs before long.
 You might recall that the recent records made with the CDIs in the US have
 been with imported fuel!
 Werner



 So, is low sulphur fuel compatitble with the older diesel engines?

 Randy


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[MBZ] Ponton Project 190D

2006-01-10 Thread Tom Scordato


http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/car/122882257.html




Re: [MBZ] Rear fogs

2006-01-10 Thread Jim Cathey

changed out the rear lamps on Gump so that she would have rear fogs,
and maybe get rid of the water seeping in


Odd, the Frankenheap's factory (?) rear fog lamp is a big square
thing between the driver's-side lamp assembly and the license plate.


It may be that the 'ribbed for your pleasure' later-model 115
lamps have an empty socket for rear fog-ness, but the smooth
earlier ones don't IIRC.  (Both our cars are smooth.)

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Oh Kaleb.....

2006-01-10 Thread LT Don
This is the one I was looking for -- even better.

http://www.stampandshout.com/shop/bumper-stickers/coexist.php

On 1/9/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I couldn't read it - what's it say, Don?

 Also, It has good compression and starts everytime once warmed up begs
 the
 question - how do you start it cold?


 On 1/8/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I do like the bumper sticker in the rear window. I've been thinking of
  ordering one for my car.
 
  On 1/8/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Question 1: How much would you plunk down for this?
  
   http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z1B031F6C
  
   Question 2: How much you reckon it's worth?
  
  
   Bob Rentfro
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel pressure test kits for K-jetronic(CIS)

2006-01-10 Thread Steve Marci
I read allot about return lines going bad and air leaking into the fuel 
system from various places on the older 12 valve CTDs. Wouldn't it be a 
useful tool for finding those leaks?  I wasn't thinking of dash mounted 
gauge, got enough too look at now :-)


Thanks
Steve

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Kevin wrote:

 Generally speaking, it was the 24v cummins that you needed the fuel pressure
 gauge on to make sure the lift pump doesn't go low pressure and take out the
 $3000+ injector pump.  The 12v engines aren't necessarily known for that
 failure, but the 24v series is.

And I'd want an electric gauge running full-time like an oil pressure gauge.





Re: [MBZ] Of interest to dieselheads - Low sulphur fuel

2006-01-10 Thread dave walton
BP is selling Sulphur-free diesel ( 10 ppm) in selected parts of
Europe. It works in old and new cars. The lubrication properties of
sulphur are replaced by additives. No idea what they are. Probably
nothing unusual. Reminds me of some computer work I did for Master
Builders 20 years ago. Turns out that the base for their concrete
additives was corn syrup (Kayro). They bought it by the tanker car.
Makes concreste flow better and is a good carrier for other additives.
Next time you are setting in a post or mailbox, try adding half a cup
to the mix. Makes a huge difference.

-Dave Walton
94 S350, 99 E300


On 1/9/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 my understanding of this is that sulphur doesn't do anything good for the 
 engine, but the removal process decreases lubricity.

   Will we have to add lubricity enhancers all the time now? what does the 
 additive package do - increase the lubricity?

 dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  The additive package is modified as 
 the sulphur content is lowered to
 maintain compatibility with older diesel engines.

 -Dave Walton
 94 S350, 99 E300

 On 1/9/06, R A Bennell  wrote:
 
 
  -Original Message-
 
  The 3.2 V-6 CDI engine has been out in Europe for almost a year already.
  And they expect that the US market will have low sulphur fuel by summer
  2006, ahead of the federally mandated 2007 deadline.  I'm also expecting the
  ML CDI as well as S-class 4.0 V-8 CDIs before long.
  You might recall that the recent records made with the CDIs in the US have
  been with imported fuel!
  Werner
 
 
 
  So, is low sulphur fuel compatitble with the older diesel engines?
 
  Randy
 
 
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[MBZ] Maine, was KB 7s

2006-01-10 Thread Dan Weeks

Curt wrote:

Sweet jiminy Dan, where you from?
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My father's family is originally from Lakeville Plantation. Closest 
town Springfield, East of Lincoln on highway 6. Spent all my summers 
there in the sixties, eating new potatoes right off the farm stand. 
Moved to Des Moines, where I currently live, from Portland 18 years 
ago. My folks live in Sedgwick, across the reach from Deer Isle, so I 
get out at least once a year, sometimes 2 or three times. When I talk 
on this list of a 300 SD being comfortable hammering along a rough 
twisting road, I'm thinking of rt 27 from Coburn Gore to Kingman.


Any fella owns 85 acres of the county goin to hevin fa shoo-wah. 
Hell, he's already they-ah!


I spent from '67 to 76 in Mass. I'm almost afraid to ask where you live now

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Re: [MBZ] Monday criags cars of seattle - e320

2006-01-10 Thread redghost

OK.

may have to wait until the snow subsides along the route though

On Monday, January 9, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Dave Wakin wrote:


http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/123758835.html  --  97 e320 $5500


This is a great deal - shifting issue is probably the tranny CPU - 
probably
full of fluid from the wire harness weeping fluid up (these are known 
to

have this issue). Around $100 from salvage yard or may just need to be
cleaned.

Anyone want to drive it to me in NY?

Dave W


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Re: [MBZ] Importing non-US car to the USA? (was: rodbender)

2006-01-10 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006, Zeitgeist wrote:

 Wonder if the W140 w/OM606 turbo was ever imported as a foreign
 diplomat's personal vehicle.  That's the only manner in which I can
 imagine one of those cars entering the country...at least until 25
 years from their original build date, when they'll be legally open for
 importation.

Yeah, that would be nice. I miss my SD (our barcolounger on wheels as my 
wife labelled it), but there is DEFINITELY something to be said for the 
turbo-intercooled-606. It can and will break traction from time to time. 
Admittedly the 210's feel tinny compared to a 123

Getting a turbo 606 into a 126 would be a neat hack, but with all the 
canbus crap it's not too likely

-j.





[MBZ] 300 SD Transmission needed

2006-01-10 Thread Nick Wellinghoff
Hi all,

I am in need of a used transmission for an 82 300SD.  I would like to get my
old 300 in running order again.  Does anyone have one lying around they want
to get rid of for a good price?

Thanks,
Nick

82 300 SD 300,000+(tranny blown)






Re: [MBZ] Maine, was KB 7s

2006-01-10 Thread LT Don
My ex grew up in Athens, a little bit away from Skowhegan.

I spent the late 70s flying all around offshore Maine (USCG).

On 1/10/06, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Curt wrote:

 Sweet jiminy Dan, where you from?
 ---
 My father's family is originally from Lakeville Plantation. Closest
 town Springfield, East of Lincoln on highway 6. Spent all my summers
 there in the sixties, eating new potatoes right off the farm stand.
 Moved to Des Moines, where I currently live, from Portland 18 years
 ago. My folks live in Sedgwick, across the reach from Deer Isle, so I
 get out at least once a year, sometimes 2 or three times. When I talk
 on this list of a 300 SD being comfortable hammering along a rough
 twisting road, I'm thinking of rt 27 from Coburn Gore to Kingman.

 Any fella owns 85 acres of the county goin to hevin fa shoo-wah.
 Hell, he's already they-ah!

 I spent from '67 to 76 in Mass. I'm almost afraid to ask where you live
 now

 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] anybody with a 603 3.5?

2006-01-10 Thread John W. Reames III
I wish we had the S300 here :) but I'm reasonably happy with the E300TD 
that I picked up (in the place of the 126.120)... Its REALLY fun to drive 
:) A V1 would be nice, but they are not kosher at all in VA, where I do at 
least half of my mileage. (foo!)
-j.






Re: [MBZ] 300 SD Transmission needed

2006-01-10 Thread Loren Faeth

Where are you?
You can call Doug at 515 296-2723  He has one that he is selling parts 
from.  Last I knew, it had the trans in it.  Not sure what year.  This car 
is in Ames, IA


At 08:49 PM 1/9/2006, you wrote:

Hi all,

I am in need of a used transmission for an 82 300SD.  I would like to get my
old 300 in running order again.  Does anyone have one lying around they want
to get rid of for a good price?

Thanks,
Nick

82 300 SD 300,000+(tranny blown)




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Re: [MBZ] Rear fogs

2006-01-10 Thread redghost
there are two bulb holes in the center, above the back up light.  Only 
one was powered in Gump's prior set of tail lights.  The newer lamps 
have contacts in both holes.  When I turn the fogs on fully the second 
bulb fires up.



On Monday, January 9, 2006, at 05:26 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


changed out the rear lamps on Gump so that she would have rear fogs,
and maybe get rid of the water seeping in


Odd, the Frankenheap's factory (?) rear fog lamp is a big square
thing between the driver's-side lamp assembly and the license plate.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] I need your help on how to finalize a vehicle purchase on eBay!

2006-01-10 Thread David Brodbeck

Lee Levitt wrote:

Or find someone local to do a walkaround, hand over the payment and take the
title for you.

I planned on doing this with my 300 in Raleigh, but timing didn't work out
for a local friend. I tried to find a local laywer to do this, but none that
I spoke to wanted to do it. Dunno why. Liability?
  


They probably feel it's outside their area of expertise.  You might have 
better luck with an appraiser.





Re: [MBZ] Rear fogs

2006-01-10 Thread redghost
Nope, Gump has smooths and there were empty sockets for the smaller 5w 
bulbs


On Monday, January 9, 2006, at 05:30 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


changed out the rear lamps on Gump so that she would have rear fogs,
and maybe get rid of the water seeping in


Odd, the Frankenheap's factory (?) rear fog lamp is a big square
thing between the driver's-side lamp assembly and the license plate.


It may be that the 'ribbed for your pleasure' later-model 115
lamps have an empty socket for rear fog-ness, but the smooth
earlier ones don't IIRC.  (Both our cars are smooth.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 240 vs SD Go Trucks

2006-01-10 Thread David Brodbeck

Brian Chase wrote:
Very cool. I've learned something today. sharp top cutoff meaning 
they don't shine up into drivers' eyes, I assume. Wish I had some.


The stock Mercedes fogs, while mounted too high to be truely good fog 
lights, do have that sharp cutoff.  It's interesting to look at the 
pattern against a wall.  They project a wide, flat bar of light.  The 
idea is to illuminate the road and the pavement markings directly ahead 
of the car, without projecting light upwards that will be scattered by 
the fog and reflected back into your eyes.


The yellow color was also once thought to reduce glare scattered by the 
fog, but studies since then have found a white light works just as well.




Re: [MBZ] Of interest to dieselheads - Low sulphur fuel

2006-01-10 Thread David Brodbeck

Christopher McCann wrote:

my understanding of this is that sulphur doesn't do anything good for the 
engine, but the removal process decreases lubricity.
  


Adding 2 to 5% biodiesel does a good job putting it back.



Re: [MBZ] Ponton Project 190D

2006-01-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 20:26:27 -0500 Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/car/122882257.html

Too far from New Mexico!


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?

2006-01-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:52:14 -0600 Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 http://www.physorg.com/news8947.html
 
 I wish I was smart enough to understand it all, but I am not.

The article to which you must be referring is at
http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/201204_tech.htm.

The short answer is, No, Mobil 1 will not be replaced yet.

The long answer: New engines may be able to be manufactured and run such
that they don't use any oil. It depends upon contamination, particularly
with the particulates related to diesel. Older engines will still have to
use oil. It may be that Mobil 1 will have the inorganic Fullerine-like
nanoparticles added to reduce friction. They will be small enough to flow
through filters, unlike the teflon oil additives.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?

2006-01-10 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Folks, the function of oil in an engine is twofold:  to lubricate, and more 
importantly to a turboDiesel, to cool the pistons and cylinder walls. 
Without oil being sprayed on the undersides of pistons, they would probably 
melt if running under heavy loads.  Solid lubricants don't mention how they 
would solve this cooling problem

Werner

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Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?



On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:52:14 -0600 Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


http://www.physorg.com/news8947.html

I wish I was smart enough to understand it all, but I am not.


The article to which you must be referring is at
http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/201204_tech.htm.

The short answer is, No, Mobil 1 will not be replaced yet.

The long answer: New engines may be able to be manufactured and run such
that they don't use any oil. It depends upon contamination, particularly
with the particulates related to diesel. Older engines will still have to
use oil. It may be that Mobil 1 will have the inorganic Fullerine-like
nanoparticles added to reduce friction. They will be small enough to flow
through filters, unlike the teflon oil additives.


Craig





Re: [MBZ] 126 fuel tank sender

2006-01-10 Thread Barry Stark
Kaleb -
I remember taking out the rear seat seat back. Can't remember if the shelf
has to come out too but when I had my shelf out I don't remember it being
very difficult.

Barry

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 fuel tank sender


ok, does that just lift out or do you have to pull the whole shelf?

Jim Cathey wrote:

OK, somebody remind me how you get at the fuel sender on a 126?  Its
been so long I can remember.


 Under storage compartment in hat rack on driver's side.

 -- Jim





Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?

2006-01-10 Thread Harry Watkins
Craig

You're right, your link was the correct one.  I got to it through a link at
the other site.

This sounds exciting, especially if, like you said, Mobil 1 could add it to
their product.

Harry



 On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:52:14 -0600 Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  http://www.physorg.com/news8947.html
 
  I wish I was smart enough to understand it all, but I am not.

 The article to which you must be referring is at
 http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/201204_tech.htm.

 The short answer is, No, Mobil 1 will not be replaced yet.

 The long answer: New engines may be able to be manufactured and run such
 that they don't use any oil. It depends upon contamination, particularly
 with the particulates related to diesel. Older engines will still have to
 use oil. It may be that Mobil 1 will have the inorganic Fullerine-like
 nanoparticles added to reduce friction. They will be small enough to flow
 through filters, unlike the teflon oil additives.


 Craig






[MBZ] What is a quick fix

2006-01-10 Thread B Dike
 for squeaky wiper blades?
  
  TIA,
  


Bruce
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Advanced metals should be able to dissapate heat better than old type 
metals. Saw a video a while back of an M60 machine gun (Oh no I got them 
going on guns again) firing for 90 seconds non stop. The manufacturers of 
the advanced barrels claim that they can put 20,000 rounds through it before 
needing to service it. So if gun metals are advancing I see no reason that 
metals in an engine will not follow. Although I would say at this stage cost 
is a factor.

Hendrik

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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?


 Folks, the function of oil in an engine is twofold:  to lubricate, and 
 more
 importantly to a turboDiesel, to cool the pistons and cylinder walls.
 Without oil being sprayed on the undersides of pistons, they would 
 probably
 melt if running under heavy loads.  Solid lubricants don't mention how 
 they
 would solve this cooling problem
 Werner

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 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
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 Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?


 On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:52:14 -0600 Harry Watkins 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 http://www.physorg.com/news8947.html

 I wish I was smart enough to understand it all, but I am not.

 The article to which you must be referring is at
 http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/201204_tech.htm.

 The short answer is, No, Mobil 1 will not be replaced yet.

 The long answer: New engines may be able to be manufactured and run such
 that they don't use any oil. It depends upon contamination, particularly
 with the particulates related to diesel. Older engines will still have to
 use oil. It may be that Mobil 1 will have the inorganic Fullerine-like
 nanoparticles added to reduce friction. They will be small enough to flow
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SD Transmission needed

2006-01-10 Thread Nick Wellinghoff
Hmm this shipping would probably make it too expensive. But we shall see.

Thanks,
Nick
Austin, TX


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Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 8:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SD Transmission needed

Where are you?
You can call Doug at 515 296-2723  He has one that he is selling parts 
from.  Last I knew, it had the trans in it.  Not sure what year.  This car 
is in Ames, IA

At 08:49 PM 1/9/2006, you wrote:
Hi all,

I am in need of a used transmission for an 82 300SD.  I would like to get
my
old 300 in running order again.  Does anyone have one lying around they
want
to get rid of for a good price?

Thanks,
Nick

82 300 SD 300,000+(tranny blown)




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Re: [MBZ] Maine, was KB 7s

2006-01-10 Thread Rich Thomas

Say mistah, can ye git theyah from heeyah?

--R

Dan Weeks wrote:


Curt wrote:

Sweet jiminy Dan, where you from?
---
My father's family is originally from Lakeville Plantation. Closest 
town Springfield, East of Lincoln on highway 6. Spent all my summers 
there in the sixties, eating new potatoes right off the farm stand. 
Moved to Des Moines, where I currently live, from Portland 18 years 
ago. My folks live in Sedgwick, across the reach from Deer Isle, so I 
get out at least once a year, sometimes 2 or three times. When I talk 
on this list of a 300 SD being comfortable hammering along a rough 
twisting road, I'm thinking of rt 27 from Coburn Gore to Kingman.


Any fella owns 85 acres of the county goin to hevin fa shoo-wah. 
Hell, he's already they-ah!


I spent from '67 to 76 in Mass. I'm almost afraid to ask where you live now

Dan
 






Re: [MBZ] What is a quick fix

2006-01-10 Thread Rich Thomas

New ones?

--R

B Dike wrote:


for squeaky wiper blades?
 
 TIA,
 



Bruce
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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear seat backrest

2006-01-10 Thread Lee Levitt
Yes.

Lee



On Mon Jan 09 15:25:23 PST 2006, wilton strickland 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is the rear seat backrest in a 124 secured in the same manner as 
 that in a
 123 -- hanging at top and 3 screws across bottom (1 at each 
 lower corner,
 1 in middle)?
 
 Wilton
 91 350SDL, 87 300D
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] What is a quick fix

2006-01-10 Thread Marshall Booth

B Dike wrote:

 for squeaky wiper blades?


Water on the windshield quiets them, new blade is better!

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SD Transmission needed

2006-01-10 Thread Loren Faeth
there seem to be quite a few junkyards around dallas and San Antonio with 
MBs.  Ought to be something available in Austin too.


At 10:28 PM 1/9/2006, you wrote:

Hmm this shipping would probably make it too expensive. But we shall see.

Thanks,
Nick
Austin, TX


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On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 8:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SD Transmission needed

Where are you?
You can call Doug at 515 296-2723  He has one that he is selling parts
from.  Last I knew, it had the trans in it.  Not sure what year.  This car
is in Ames, IA

At 08:49 PM 1/9/2006, you wrote:
Hi all,

I am in need of a used transmission for an 82 300SD.  I would like to get
my
old 300 in running order again.  Does anyone have one lying around they
want
to get rid of for a good price?

Thanks,
Nick

82 300 SD 300,000+(tranny blown)




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Re: [MBZ] What is a quick fix

2006-01-10 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 1/9/2006 9:21:13 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

for  squeaky wiper blades?




Bruce,
 
Clean the glass with Bon Ami, a not scratching powder cleanser.  Also,  going 
over the glass with a single edge razor blade is sometimes  fruitful.


[MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series

2006-01-10 Thread Woodlandtaylors
Can someone provide me a link that discusses the cylinder head cracking
issue as it relates to the casting # and exactly where to view the casting
marks?

 

Dennis T


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Re: [MBZ] 240 vs SD Go Trucks

2006-01-10 Thread Brian Chase
Ah! I continue to learn. The sharp top cut off is to prevent reflection back 
at the driver.


Also, what's up with that feature that allows you to just turn on one 
directional lamp steady (not flashing) - one side at a time. ?


Brian
83 240D


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 vs SD Go Trucks
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:19:28 -0800

Brian Chase wrote:
 Very cool. I've learned something today. sharp top cutoff meaning
 they don't shine up into drivers' eyes, I assume. Wish I had some.

The stock Mercedes fogs, while mounted too high to be truely good fog
lights, do have that sharp cutoff.  It's interesting to look at the
pattern against a wall.  They project a wide, flat bar of light.  The
idea is to illuminate the road and the pavement markings directly ahead
of the car, without projecting light upwards that will be scattered by
the fog and reflected back into your eyes.

The yellow color was also once thought to reduce glare scattered by the
fog, but studies since then have found a white light works just as well.

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Re: [MBZ] Fog lights

2006-01-10 Thread Jim Cathey

The stock Mercedes fogs, while mounted too high to be truely good fog
lights, do have that sharp cutoff.  It's interesting to look at the


Depends on the car.  The aftermarket-ey ones on a US 107 hang beneath
the bumper, and are quite low enough.  The ones I added to the 
Frankenheap

are mounted similarly, down in harm's way.  They augment the totally
pathetic ones that are in the stock Euro lamps.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 240 vs SD Go Trucks

2006-01-10 Thread Brian Chase
Could you expand on this? I have a Gump too. Or is that blasphemy? 
Seriously though, I'd like to know what you mean by changing out the rear 
lamps. Which lamps specifically did you replace and what fills their 
previous function? Wait. I just found this post which answers that.


Redghost wrote:
there are two bulb holes in the center, above the back up light.  Only
one was powered in Gump's prior set of tail lights.  The newer lamps
have contacts in both holes.  When I turn the fogs on fully the second
bulb fires up.

Brian writes: But what type of bulb did you plug in there, and where did you 
get the alternative lamp assemblies? And what do you mean by turning in the 
fogs fully?


Brian
83 240D



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changed out the rear lamps on Gump so that she would have rear fogs,
and maybe get rid of the water seeping in

On Sunday, January 8, 2006, at 12:14 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

 Rear fog light?  Two of our MB's have them now.  (Frankenheap and the
 for-sale SL.)  My SL has it about half-installed, the wire is coiled
 under the back seat.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 240 vs SD Go Trucks

2006-01-10 Thread Jim Cathey
Also, what's up with that feature that allows you to just turn on one 
directional lamp steady (not flashing) - one side at a time. ?


City parking in certain cow-path streets in some old European cities
mandates a parked car being lit, at least on the street side.  Half
lights draw half power, allowing the battery to live through the night.

Those are parking lights that are lit, not the turn/hazard lights.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 240 vs SD Go Trucks

2006-01-10 Thread Jim Cathey
Ah! I continue to learn. The sharp top cut off is to prevent 
reflection back at the driver.


It also prevents glaring into the eyes of oncoming drivers.  Of which
most fog lights (mandatorily lit?) on newer cars are very guilty of.
I don't think they have upwards cutoffs.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Fog lights

2006-01-10 Thread Jim Cathey

And what do you mean by turning in the fogs fully?


One notch out turns on front fogs.  Two out also turns on the
rear fog (singular) and an indicator lamp in the light switch.

If you are equipped with them.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Of interest to dieselheads

2006-01-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 1/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 DaimlerChrysler plans to achieve a breakthrough in North America's
 barely-existent diesel car market by launching a new range of Mercedes-Benz 
 and Chrysler
 models using what it claims will be the world's cleanest diesel-engine
 technology, the Financial Times (FT) reported.

Wonder if this means they're going to put diesels in Chrysler
passenger cars, as well as Jeeps?  Or in the Dakota?  I'd buy a Dakota
with a CDI V6.  What I'd really like to see, though, is a diesel
engine in the new Challenger:
http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo



Re: [MBZ] Of interest to dieselheads

2006-01-10 Thread Loren Faeth

A caravan 400CDI?  That is scarey!

I'd look at a CHeep Cherokee with an MB Diesel, or a dakota PU  I'd 
probably buy the ML though.   (in 10-15 years)



At 12:15 AM 1/10/2006, you wrote:

On 1/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 DaimlerChrysler plans to achieve a breakthrough in North America's
 barely-existent diesel car market by launching a new range of 
Mercedes-Benz and Chrysler

 models using what it claims will be the world's cleanest diesel-engine
 technology, the Financial Times (FT) reported.

Wonder if this means they're going to put diesels in Chrysler
passenger cars, as well as Jeeps?  Or in the Dakota?  I'd buy a Dakota
with a CDI V6.  What I'd really like to see, though, is a diesel
engine in the new Challenger:
http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

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Re: [MBZ] 240 vs SD Go Trucks

2006-01-10 Thread David Brodbeck

Jim Cathey wrote:
Ah! I continue to learn. The sharp top cut off is to prevent 
reflection back at the driver.



It also prevents glaring into the eyes of oncoming drivers.  Of which
most fog lights (mandatorily lit?) on newer cars are very guilty of.
I don't think they have upwards cutoffs.
  


I'd say if they don't have upward cutoffs, they're not really fog 
lights.  Driving lights or auxiliary low beams, maybe.  Often the 
goal of factory lights like that is to fill in that dark hole the 
standard DOT pattern leaves just in front of the bumper.




Re: [MBZ] Fog lights

2006-01-10 Thread David Brodbeck

Jim Cathey wrote:

And what do you mean by turning in the fogs fully?



One notch out turns on front fogs.  Two out also turns on the
rear fog (singular) and an indicator lamp in the light switch.
  


Ah!  I always wondered what that yellow dot in the center of the light 
switch knob was for, although I never noticed until now that the switch 
pulled out another notch.  My car isn't equipped with rear fogs, though, 
so the extra notch doesn't do anything.




Re: [MBZ] Relamping

2006-01-10 Thread RELNGSON
changed out the rear lamps on Gump so that she would have rear fogs,and 
maybe get rid of the water seeping in

I replaced the inadequate stock taillight units on my '72 250 with the later 
ribbed lens style but I had to space the bumper out a bit for clearance. I 
wired the inner unused reflector positions as additional brakelights.

RLE/Seattle


Re: [MBZ] Of interest to dieselheads

2006-01-10 Thread Barry Stark
Randy -
Arco has had low sulphur fuel here in California for quite a while now and I
think I have run at least 5 or 6 tankfuls in my '81 SD. Take a look at this
link for more details.
http://www.ecdiesel.com/environment/ulsd_qa.asp#04

Barry


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The 3.2 V-6 CDI engine has been out in Europe for almost a year already.
And they expect that the US market will have low sulphur fuel by summer
2006, ahead of the federally mandated 2007 deadline.  I'm also expecting the
ML CDI as well as S-class 4.0 V-8 CDIs before long.
You might recall that the recent records made with the CDIs in the US have
been with imported fuel!
Werner



So, is low sulphur fuel compatitble with the older diesel engines?

Randy






Re: [MBZ] 300 SD Transmission needed

2006-01-10 Thread MICHAEL ESH

Will the Transmission from a 1981 380SEL work in Nicks 1982 300SD?

Mike
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Hi all,

I am in need of a used transmission for an 82 300SD.  I would like to get 
my
old 300 in running order again.  Does anyone have one lying around they 
want

to get rid of for a good price?

Thanks,
Nick

82 300 SD 300,000+(tranny blown)




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[MBZ] Cheap Ebay 603 head

2006-01-10 Thread Tjohn
Gather 'round boys and girls.  Guy is offering up a no. 17 head, and its
mislisted (under instrument clusters) so it may go cheaper than usual.

Sorry if this has been posted previously.   Sorry if you were keeping this
your little secret.  :)

*http://tinyurl.com/dj2ju* http://tinyurl.com/dj2ju

Tjohn

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Re: [MBZ] anybody with a 603 3.5?

2006-01-10 Thread dave walton
The 140 is a sweet vehicle with a nice ride. Dual front airbags are
good to have around too. Figure the cost of a new engine into the mix
if you go with the S350. Still worth it IMHO.
If you don't go diesel, go for the Full Monte and get the V12 600.
Wickedly fast ride. Been looking for one for a while myself. Would be
good for city driving.

-Dave Walton
94 S350, 99 E300

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 concidering a 3.5 and risking the rods bending.  If not that I would
 either go with the next economical choice of a 320 with the 104 or most
 likely all out with a 500.  Anybody got a 500 and if so what sort of
 mileage do you get?  Probably better off going this route over the
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 380 SEL

2006-01-10 Thread Gary Thompson
Around here, good pick and pull engines can be had for about $900. A crappy
one can be much cheaper :^)


Gary Thompson
Austin, TX
1995 E320


On 1/9/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Around here a nice pick and pull engine is $150 complete

 So, of course, are the crappy ones!  But that's what I'd
 do.  Requires patience.

 -- Jim



Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series

2006-01-10 Thread OK Don
As far as I know, the only engine in the 124 series that has a
reputation for cracking heads is the 6 cylinder 1987 model. It has the
603.96x engine.
From my archive:

Head model on 603 diesel engines:

For the head question, look at the casting number near #2/#3 cylinder.
Should be 603-016-xx-20 or something like that. If xx is 14, it's the old
bad head. If 17, it's the newer head from a 3.5L. And if it's 22, it's a
REALLY new head.


Thanks, Wray, for saving me the trouble! ;) To clarify my previous post, if
the head is number 17 or higher, it is the good, reinforced head. A number
15 or lower is the old, weak head.

I have heard of 5 variations... 14 (1987 version), 15 (?), 17 (3.5L, 1990 to
1995), 20 (newer than 1995-ish), and 22 (last revision, AFAIK). I forget if
number 15 exists or if it's a figment of my imagination, but the other 4 are
real. The head I bought from Rusty in spring 2002 was a #22.

- -dm  :)

On 1/9/06, Woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can someone provide me a link that discusses the cylinder head cracking
 issue as it relates to the casting # and exactly where to view the casting
 marks?



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[MBZ] Test

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Re: [MBZ] Maine, was KB 7s

2006-01-10 Thread Curt Raymond
I'm living in Gardner now, went to Fitchburg State for my higher education. I 
work in Tewksbury so me an Hammie ride down Rt 2 everyday.
  I'm sure there somebody on the list that was at Devins when it was hoppin.
   
  Coburn Gore, thats somewhere you should think about every day, 2 or 3 houses, 
the border crossing and a store that straddles the border. Or am I thinking of 
somewhere else? My knowledge of the western side of the state is limited.
  Another really lousy road through otherwise fine country is 195 from Elsworth 
to Winter Harbor. One year I went out there and they had one of those temporary 
bridges over an inlet. The whole thing was gently swaying as the 18 wheelers 
eased (and I mean eased) across it.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 20:40:24 -0600
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Curt wrote:

Sweet jiminy Dan, where you from?
---
My father's family is originally from Lakeville Plantation. Closest 
town Springfield, East of Lincoln on highway 6. Spent all my summers 
there in the sixties, eating new potatoes right off the farm stand. 
Moved to Des Moines, where I currently live, from Portland 18 years 
ago. My folks live in Sedgwick, across the reach from Deer Isle, so I 
get out at least once a year, sometimes 2 or three times. When I talk 
on this list of a 300 SD being comfortable hammering along a rough 
twisting road, I'm thinking of rt 27 from Coburn Gore to Kingman.

Any fella owns 85 acres of the county goin to hevin fa shoo-wah. 
Hell, he's already they-ah!

I spent from '67 to 76 in Mass. I'm almost afraid to ask where you live 
now

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SD Transmission needed

2006-01-10 Thread Gary Thompson
The only pick and pull with a reasonable selection of MBs in Austin is
Capitol City Imports down on South Congress. Unfortunately, though, the
engines/transmissions are usually the first thing to go when they get new
cars in. I have yet see them have a 617 or a 722.3xx in stock when I was
down there. Lots of other good stuff. They even had 3 coupes last time I
went by! They just recently stopped letting you wander the yard by yourself.
Bummer. You can still get back there, but only with one of their guys, and
you have to have a good idea what you're going for (preferrably something
expensive enough to make it worth their while). Also helps if you speak
Spanish.

I've not heard of any good places in San Antonio.

I've heard from others that there are a couple of good yards in the Dallas
area, but when I'm up there, my wife usually has other plans :^(   How come
I have to go to the Galleria and you don't have to go to the salvage yard?


Gary Thompson
Georgetown, TX
1995 E320



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Re: [MBZ] Maine, was KB 7s

2006-01-10 Thread Curt Raymond
One time just after I'd graduated High School the mother of a girl I was trying 
desparately to get into the sack wouldn't believe I was from Maine because I 
had no discernable accent. I've been told I have California Newscaster Flat 
Accent which is useful in my job doing phone support but doesn't have any 
regional intrigue at all.
   
  -Curt
   
   
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My friend's 116 has different ones too, I believe they're under the bumper but 
I could be wrong.
   
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 The stock Mercedes fogs, while mounted too high to be truely good fog
 lights, do have that sharp cutoff.  It's interesting to look at the

Depends on the car.  The aftermarket-ey ones on a US 107 hang beneath
the bumper, and are quite low enough.  The ones I added to the 
Frankenheap
are mounted similarly, down in harm's way.  They augment the totally
pathetic ones that are in the stock Euro lamps.

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Re: [MBZ] What is a quick fix

2006-01-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

replace them

B Dike wrote:


 for squeaky wiper blades?
  
  TIA,
  



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Re: [MBZ] 300 SD Transmission needed

2006-01-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

no

MICHAEL ESH wrote:


Will the Transmission from a 1981 380SEL work in Nicks 1982 300SD?

Mike



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Re: [MBZ] Test

2006-01-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

you failed

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Re: [MBZ] Test

2006-01-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
he didnt sent a bat file as an attatchments.  For some reason the format 
that juno uses to send messages is crazy and gets converted to bat by 
the software.  If a bat file comes from this list it was created BY the 
list, no outside bat files would make it thru as they would have been 
bounced back.


Luther Gulseth wrote:


F- and you're boarderline below 0% for sending a *.bat file as an 
attachment.

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[MBZ] today's Daily Reckoning - contrarian investing newsletter - diesel exhaust tech.

2006-01-10 Thread Christopher McCann
 The Sweet Smell of Diesel   
  Written by Justice Litle
Edited by Eric Fry
More than a century has passed since Ransom Eli Olds 
introduced the first mass-production vehicle, the Curved 
Dash Oldsmobile, in 1901. (Ford was hot on his heels.) A 
hundred years later, developments in automotive technology 
have not slowed down. 
Electronic gadgets may capture most of the Ooohs and 
Ahhhs at auto shows, but these modern marvels are of 
small consequence compared to what's happening under the 
hood...and inside the tailpipe. Corning Inc. – the fiber 
optic company – has developed an exhaust-filtration 
technology that could dramatically boost demand for diesel-
powered vehicles. This is a long-term play on an exciting, 
and perhaps inevitable, development in the automotive 
world.
Even without Corning's innovative exhaust filter, diesel is 
superior to conventional gasoline in two key respects: It 
releases 15-20% less (CO2) per mile driven than regular 
gasoline and gets about 30% more miles to the gallon. These 
advantages were long hidden by a few nasty drawbacks. The 
diesel engines of old were loud, dirty and smelly. You 
could hear a diesel truck coming from a quarter mile away, 
see the soot half a block away and smell the exhaust as it 
rolled past. But after years of research and refinement, 
the vast majority of diesel's problems have been licked. 
European refineries have long since removed the sulfur from 
their diesel production, allowing for a sharp reduction in 
smell and smoke. And the rising price of gasoline has made 
fuel efficiency all the more important, offsetting the 
extra cost of building a diesel engine. 
These elements give diesel an edge in capturing global 
market share. But diesel also benefits from a much bigger, 
and potentially decisive, factor: the existence of 
petroleum alternatives. As it turns out, you don't need 
crude oil to make diesel. You can make it from coal, plant 
mass, cooking oil or even spare turkey parts (a small 
refinery in Missouri turns gobblers into fuel, cranking out 
hundreds of barrels per day). Biodiesel has taken off in 
Europe: Germany is in the lead, raising output 40-50% a 
year. Drivers love biodiesel, because it saves them money 
at the pump; governments love biodiesel because it offers 
justification - partial at least - for the countless 
billions gone to farm subsidies. It seems diesel can be 
made from just about anything with semi-organic origins. If 
you run a restaurant or a cafeteria, you may be tempted to 
invest in a cooking oil converter kit; this handy kit lets 
you deep fry a batch of potatoes and later reuse the oil in 
your delivery truck. 
All well and good. But the final hurdle for diesel 
dominance can be summed up in a three-letter word: NOx. 
Short for nitrous oxide, NOx is one of the soot-causing 
pollutants emitted by diesel engines. While engineers have 
figured out how to thoroughly scrub diesel exhaust 
through the use of catalytic converters and particle traps, 
getting out the last bit of NOx has been tricky. In 
embracing diesel so many years ago, Europe chose to make a 
tradeoff - accepting the downside of NOx-type particulates 
in exchange for lower CO2 emissions and greater fuel 
efficiency. Now both continents face a challenge: the high 
hurdle of tightened emissions regulations. By 2007, the 
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency will require a 90% 
reduction in the amount of soot, Forbes reports. Between 
2007 and 2010 the agency also mandates a phased 92% 
reduction in the amount of NOx emitted from a truck's 
tailpipe. Europe has committed itself to a similar 
mandate. 
The American trucking industry, which depends on diesel, is 
in a tizzy. A 92% NOx reduction is no small thing, and 
yesterday's pollution technology is not quite up to snuff. 
Tailpipes must be upgraded; the entire trucking industry 
must find a way to comply by the EPA deadline. This is 
where opportunity comes into focus...He who slays the NOx 
dragon wins the fair maiden's hand: the lucrative exhaust-
filtration market. Corning – to continue the metaphor – may 
be the lucky knight-in-shining armor.
This 150-year-old company has enjoyed a long history of 
maverick innovation. Its intense focus on research and 
development, combined with a willingness to take risks on 
new ideas, is woven into the fabric of the company. In 
testament to its research prowess, the town of Corning, 
N.Y., challenges Los Alamos, N.M., for the highest number 
of Ph.D.s per capita in the world. (Sometimes that's a good 
thing). From the mundane to the exotic, Corning is widely 
known for its glass products. The company has done 
groundbreaking work in everything from light bulbs, Pyrex 
dishes and test tube beakers to space shuttle windows, 
missile nose cones and spy satellites. 
Although most folks know Corning as the leading pioneer of 
fiber optic technology, the company has also pioneered 
environmental technologies. More than 

Re: [MBZ] Test

2006-01-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
why don't you fix this problem?

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jan 10, 2006 10:13 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test

he didnt sent a bat file as an attatchments.  For some reason the format 
that juno uses to send messages is crazy and gets converted to bat by 
the software.  If a bat file comes from this list it was created BY the 
list, no outside bat files would make it thru as they would have been 
bounced back.




Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi



Re: [MBZ] Test

2006-01-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Last time I checked I dont work for juno or have any control over what 
juno does.


Luther Gulseth wrote:


why don't you fix this problem?

-Original Message-


From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jan 10, 2006 10:13 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test

he didnt sent a bat file as an attatchments.  For some reason the format 
that juno uses to send messages is crazy and gets converted to bat by 
the software.  If a bat file comes from this list it was created BY the 
list, no outside bat files would make it thru as they would have been 
bounced back.







Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

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[MBZ] Rear fogs

2006-01-10 Thread wilton strickland
Several yrs ago, I wired unused fog positions on my 126 and 123 to work as
TAIL lights - 'wanted to be more visible from rear ALL the time.  Got lamp
sockets from salvage yard; spliced into regular tail light circuit inside
each rear light assy.  'Haven't done the 124 yet.

Wilton




Re: [MBZ] Test

2006-01-10 Thread Zeitgeist
Well, have you applied for work with Juno?

btw:  What's a .bat file, anyway?

On 1/10/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Last time I checked I dont work for juno or have any control over what
 juno does.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)



Re: [MBZ] 300 SD Transmission needed

2006-01-10 Thread Rich Thomas
Check with Acorn Foreign Auto Parts in Houston, just off 290.  They 
usually have engines/trannies, etc. and a short hop from Austin.  
713.682.0623.  Prices are sorta reasonable, and the guy will dicker a bit.


--R

Gary Thompson wrote:


The only pick and pull with a reasonable selection of MBs in Austin is
Capitol City Imports down on South Congress. Unfortunately, though, the
engines/transmissions are usually the first thing to go when they get new
cars in. I have yet see them have a 617 or a 722.3xx in stock when I was
down there. Lots of other good stuff. They even had 3 coupes last time I
went by! They just recently stopped letting you wander the yard by yourself.
Bummer. You can still get back there, but only with one of their guys, and
you have to have a good idea what you're going for (preferrably something
expensive enough to make it worth their while). Also helps if you speak
Spanish.

I've not heard of any good places in San Antonio.

I've heard from others that there are a couple of good yards in the Dallas
area, but when I'm up there, my wife usually has other plans :^(   How come
I have to go to the Galleria and you don't have to go to the salvage yard?


Gary Thompson
Georgetown, TX
1995 E320



On 1/9/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


there seem to be quite a few junkyards around dallas and San Antonio with
MBs.  Ought to be something available in Austin too.


   


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[MBZ] NICE SDL in OKLA

2006-01-10 Thread Donald Snook
The SDL I thought was in Wichita is actually in Oklahoma City 

 

Here is the link. It only has 110,000 miles and he wants $5900

 

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=192211218dealer_id=5716652
7car_year=1986model=300SDLbkms=1136908666438lang=enisp=ystart_year
=1981certified=search_type=useddistance=200make=MBmin_price=addres
s=67208advanced=end_year=2006max_price=cardist=152

 

 

Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn  Herrington, P.A. 

300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

Tel. (316) 263-5851

This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client
privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you
have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.  

 



Re: [MBZ] Sources for component repairs

2006-01-10 Thread Jim Cathey

www.scaffolding.com/mb


It's a Word file.  People with Macs that do not wish to
have anything to do with Bill Gates getting any richer
or Microsoft's wretched virus-ware don't do Word.  Got
PDF?  RTF?  HTML?  Text-only?

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Sources for component repairs

2006-01-10 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Jim - I don't see any Word files - just many jpg pictures, all 
apparently related to 3.5 Diesels!

Werner


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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sources for component repairs



www.scaffolding.com/mb


It's a Word file.  People with Macs that do not wish to
have anything to do with Bill Gates getting any richer
or Microsoft's wretched virus-ware don't do Word.  Got
PDF?  RTF?  HTML?  Text-only?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Test

2006-01-10 Thread Jim Cathey

btw:  What's a .bat file, anyway?

It's a DOS thing.  A Batch file, lame cousin to a shell script.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Fog lights

2006-01-10 Thread Jim Cathey

My friend's 116 has different ones too, I believe they're under
the bumper but I could be wrong.


107  116 share the same fog lights.  I have a pair of 116-sourced
ones (junkyard) that are in reserve for one of my lucky beaters.
I just haven't decided between the Chicken Wagon or the Frankenheap.
(The nasty Chinese plastic ones on the heap break every time they
even face a stiff headwind.  [Almost.])

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Fog (idiot) lights

2006-01-10 Thread Jim Cathey

Driving lights or auxiliary low beams, maybe.  Often the
goal of factory lights like that is to fill in that dark hole the
standard DOT pattern leaves just in front of the bumper.


And why would you need to do that?  Lose a set of contacts there?

Anything _that_ close couldn't be avoided anyway, so having light
there pulling your eye away from the avoidable threat zone is stupid.
That's why you're only supposed to turn them on in fog!  You are
going much slower so that area now _is_ the avoidable threat zone.

Such is the theory, anyway.  Probably right up there with clean
political campaigns and the theory that one should carefully look
at where one is merging onto a freeway to make sure there is
actually a place to go.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Sources for component repairs

2006-01-10 Thread Jim Cathey

Jim - I don't see any Word files - just many jpg pictures, all
apparently related to 3.5 Diesels!


There was one.  An MB component source list.  Directory scanning,
my specialty!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?

2006-01-10 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Hendrik - its fairly certain that aluminum can't survive in cylinders 
without cooling jets of oil.  But the work on ceramic cylinder parts, 
including pistons may provide some solution.  Wonder what they will do for 
rings that can stand really high temperatures?  More ceramics??

Werner

- Original Message - 
From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?



Advanced metals should be able to dissapate heat better than old type
metals. Saw a video a while back of an M60 machine gun (Oh no I got them
going on guns again) firing for 90 seconds non stop. The manufacturers of
the advanced barrels claim that they can put 20,000 rounds through it 
before

needing to service it. So if gun metals are advancing I see no reason that
metals in an engine will not follow. Although I would say at this stage 
cost

is a factor.

Hendrik

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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?



Folks, the function of oil in an engine is twofold:  to lubricate, and
more
importantly to a turboDiesel, to cool the pistons and cylinder walls.
Without oil being sprayed on the undersides of pistons, they would
probably
melt if running under heavy loads.  Solid lubricants don't mention how
they
would solve this cooling problem
Werner

- Original Message - 
From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Does this mean Mobil 1 will be replaced?



On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:52:14 -0600 Harry Watkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


http://www.physorg.com/news8947.html

I wish I was smart enough to understand it all, but I am not.


The article to which you must be referring is at
http://www.isracast.com/tech_news/201204_tech.htm.

The short answer is, No, Mobil 1 will not be replaced yet.

The long answer: New engines may be able to be manufactured and run such
that they don't use any oil. It depends upon contamination, particularly
with the particulates related to diesel. Older engines will still have 
to

use oil. It may be that Mobil 1 will have the inorganic Fullerine-like
nanoparticles added to reduce friction. They will be small enough to 
flow

through filters, unlike the teflon oil additives.


Craig





Re: [MBZ] Test

2006-01-10 Thread Zeitgeist
...uh yes, I too am troubled by under-performing familial relations of
the shell script...grr curses!

On 1/10/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 btw:  What's a .bat file, anyway?

 It's a DOS thing.  A Batch file, lame cousin to a shell script.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)



Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series

2006-01-10 Thread Desert Rat
I had a factory 15 on a 1986 300SDL non TO model but have not heard
of any others since.

On 1/10/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As far as I know, the only engine in the 124 series that has a
 reputation for cracking heads is the 6 cylinder 1987 model. It has the
 603.96x engine.
 From my archive:

 Head model on 603 diesel engines:

 For the head question, look at the casting number near #2/#3 cylinder.
 Should be 603-016-xx-20 or something like that. If xx is 14, it's the old
 bad head. If 17, it's the newer head from a 3.5L. And if it's 22, it's a
 REALLY new head.


 Thanks, Wray, for saving me the trouble! ;) To clarify my previous post, if
 the head is number 17 or higher, it is the good, reinforced head. A number
 15 or lower is the old, weak head.

 I have heard of 5 variations... 14 (1987 version), 15 (?), 17 (3.5L, 1990 to
 1995), 20 (newer than 1995-ish), and 22 (last revision, AFAIK). I forget if
 number 15 exists or if it's a figment of my imagination, but the other 4 are
 real. The head I bought from Rusty in spring 2002 was a #22.

 - -dm  :)

 On 1/9/06, Woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can someone provide me a link that discusses the cylinder head cracking
  issue as it relates to the casting # and exactly where to view the casting
  marks?
 


 --
 OK Don, KD5NRO
 Norman, OK
 '90 300D 243K, '87 300SDL 290K,  '81 240D 173K,  '78 450SLC 67K, '97
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Re: [MBZ] '91 190E 2.6

2006-01-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
Is that the only explanation?  Could be they were removed for repainting and
then the dumb*ss painter guessed wrong when putting the plates back.

On 1/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, don't beat me up too hard.� I bought a '91 190E 2.6 gasser this
 week.
 It
 has 99k.� Everything works on it.

 Looking at the pictures, I notice that the nameplates on the trunk lid are
 reversed which means the lid was replaced after the last accident. 190E
 goes on
 the left side.

 RLE
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[MBZ] thousands of MB posters!

2006-01-10 Thread Christopher McCann
www.parc.de
  
  WOW! 
  


Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose
-1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen
-1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf 
-1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
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-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger

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Wilton - do you have pictures of the added lights?
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD EM  270k miles 

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Subject: [MBZ] Rear fogs

Several yrs ago, I wired unused fog positions on my 126 and 123 to work as
TAIL lights - 'wanted to be more visible from rear ALL the time.  Got lamp
sockets from salvage yard; spliced into regular tail light circuit inside
each rear light assy.  'Haven't done the 124 yet.

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] thousands of MB posters!

2006-01-10 Thread Sunil Hari
yeah, for those of us who don't speak deutsche ...

On 1/10/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 www.parc.de

   WOW!



 Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
 -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose
 -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen
 -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf
 -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
 -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent
 -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger

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Re: [MBZ] It's a Gas

2006-01-10 Thread Dave Wakin

Here's one for less money w/ less miles...it is a few years older though

http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/car/124133888.html

Dave W



Re: [MBZ] thousands of MB posters!

2006-01-10 Thread Christopher McCann
it's in english...click around till you ge to the english
  

Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  yeah, for those of us who don't speak 
deutsche ...

On 1/10/06, Christopher McCann  wrote:

 www.parc.de

   WOW!



 Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
 -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose
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Re: [MBZ] Emblem flapping in the breeze

2006-01-10 Thread Jim Cathey
The '300SD' emblem on EM is loose and looks about to fall off.  I 
recall

that it is held in place by pins and held tight by some type of glue.
Suggestions on the best way to re-attach?


I think it's pins _or_ glue.  (The Frankenheap is held on by pins,
actually threaded studs, whereas the SDL is just glued on.)

For the SDL I just carefully pried it all the way off, cleaned
the area with alcohol, and used weatherstrip cement to glue it
back on over the old glue shadow.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series

2006-01-10 Thread Woodlandtaylors
Don,

Thanks, the 1987 Wagon that was on Craiglist in Portland Oregon for $1895
the other day is available again. The purchaser reports he changed the glow
plugs and it starts instantly now. He purchased it for his girlfriend to use
for her real estate business but she does not like it. Hates diesel and says
it does not accelerate satisfactory for her and would rather have a MLxxx. 

He asked for his money back, which the original owner said no way a deals a
deal - but did give him a list of people that had contacted him. I was first
on the list; my daughter who drives a 300CD would like to get the wagon so
I'm going to look at it this morning. I'm a little 'gun shy' after what has
transpired but it is worth the time to look. Its needs some work but the
daughter wants to tackle it, she changes the oil in the 300CD herself and
replaced the turbo - I figure if she can do that she can tackle anything.

If it does not suit her perhaps someone on the list may be interested.

Sorry for the saga,

Dennis T  

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series

As far as I know, the only engine in the 124 series that has a
reputation for cracking heads is the 6 cylinder 1987 model. It has the
603.96x engine.
From my archive:

Head model on 603 diesel engines:

For the head question, look at the casting number near #2/#3 cylinder.
Should be 603-016-xx-20 or something like that. If xx is 14, it's the old
bad head. If 17, it's the newer head from a 3.5L. And if it's 22, it's a
REALLY new head.


Thanks, Wray, for saving me the trouble! ;) To clarify my previous post, if
the head is number 17 or higher, it is the good, reinforced head. A number
15 or lower is the old, weak head.

I have heard of 5 variations... 14 (1987 version), 15 (?), 17 (3.5L, 1990 to
1995), 20 (newer than 1995-ish), and 22 (last revision, AFAIK). I forget if
number 15 exists or if it's a figment of my imagination, but the other 4 are
real. The head I bought from Rusty in spring 2002 was a #22.

- -dm  :)

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 Can someone provide me a link that discusses the cylinder head cracking
 issue as it relates to the casting # and exactly where to view the casting
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[MBZ] Plain text

2006-01-10 Thread Constantine N. Polites

Jim:
Plain text posted. Would you consider word perfect? ( My preference).
Constantine



Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series

2006-01-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

WOW, thats some daughter you got there.

Woodlandtaylors wrote:


Don,

Thanks, the 1987 Wagon that was on Craiglist in Portland Oregon for $1895
the other day is available again. The purchaser reports he changed the glow
plugs and it starts instantly now. He purchased it for his girlfriend to use
for her real estate business but she does not like it. Hates diesel and says
it does not accelerate satisfactory for her and would rather have a MLxxx. 


He asked for his money back, which the original owner said no way a deals a
deal - but did give him a list of people that had contacted him. I was first
on the list; my daughter who drives a 300CD would like to get the wagon so
I'm going to look at it this morning. I'm a little 'gun shy' after what has
transpired but it is worth the time to look. Its needs some work but the
daughter wants to tackle it, she changes the oil in the 300CD herself and
replaced the turbo - I figure if she can do that she can tackle anything.

If it does not suit her perhaps someone on the list may be interested.

Sorry for the saga,

Dennis T  



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Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series

2006-01-10 Thread Jim Cathey
for her real estate business but she does not like it. Hates diesel 
and says
it does not accelerate satisfactory for her and would rather have a 
MLxxx.


'Hates diesel'?  Yeah, maybe.  I'm guessing there's some of my
wife's 'loathes station wagons' hidden in there as well.  My wife,
at least, is up front about it.  Nothing to do with the fact that
her mother loves station wagons.  No, not at all...

I'm envious of your impending wagonitude.  If only...

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series

2006-01-10 Thread Zeitgeist
Hey Dennis, go ahead and buy it.  I'll gladly take it off your hands
in the event that it doesn't suit your purposes--really, I mean it. 
I'm your personal insurance policy.


On 1/10/06, Woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don,

 Thanks, the 1987 Wagon that was on Craiglist in Portland Oregon for $1895
 the other day is available again. The purchaser reports he changed the glow
 plugs and it starts instantly now. He purchased it for his girlfriend to use
 for her real estate business but she does not like it. Hates diesel and says
 it does not accelerate satisfactory for her and would rather have a MLxxx.

 He asked for his money back, which the original owner said no way a deals a
 deal - but did give him a list of people that had contacted him. I was first
 on the list; my daughter who drives a 300CD would like to get the wagon so
 I'm going to look at it this morning. I'm a little 'gun shy' after what has
 transpired but it is worth the time to look. Its needs some work but the
 daughter wants to tackle it, she changes the oil in the 300CD herself and
 replaced the turbo - I figure if she can do that she can tackle anything.

 If it does not suit her perhaps someone on the list may be interested.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)



Re: [MBZ] Transmission questions

2006-01-10 Thread Marshall Booth

Loren Faeth wrote:
Does anyone have a chart for auto transmission types used in various model 
numbers and years.  I am most interested in those used in the 123, 124, and 
126 types.  Right now I am specifically looking for info about the trans in 
a 86 300D and an 88 300TE


I know that a 123 can be converted to manual trans with bolt-in 
components.  Is this also possible with a 124?  Anybody got a 124 5 speed 
with all linkages, pedals, etc that would be necessary for a conversion?


The most difficult problems are usually the flywheel and driveshaft (124 
gas and normally aspirated diesel cars were manufactured with 5 speed 
manual transmissions - but were NEVER brought to the US). New ones ARE 
available but are VERY expensive. Used ones are in short supply even in 
Europe and Asia - in the US they just don't exist. The manual 
transmissions do NOT mate well with Mercedes turbo engines.


There is a listing of all the transmissions used in 124 and post '85 126 
cars in the '88 Tech. Data Manual. I can scan and post it if you still 
need it. The best list of 123 and 126 (pre '86) transmissions will be 
found in the '85 TDM.


Marshall
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[MBZ] Here's the text of the Word file

2006-01-10 Thread Marshall Booth

SOURCES FOR MB COMPONENT  PURCHASE/EXCHANGE/REPAIRS


Bosch Injection Pump repairs:
Central Penn Pump
2700 Cumberland St.
Lebanon, PA
Tel. 717 274 0665
Ask for Jeff (owner) or Glen (rebuilder)

Bosch Part Dealer
J  R  Foreign Auto Parts
1817 Cottman Ave.
Philadelphia, PA 19111
Ask for David
Tel. 215 725 9440



Turbocharger Rebuilder (agent for Garrett etc..)
D.W. Diesel Inc.
Tel. 315 253 7740
Ask for Rich or Jeff


MB Dealer for motors
I.G. Burton
Milford, DE 19963
Tel. 302 424 3042
Ask for John


Rebuilders of hydraulic components (hydraulic pump etc.)
Star Motors
1694 Union Center Hwy
Endicott, NY 13760
Tel. 607 786 3918
Ask for Neil (owner) or Dennis (technician)

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