Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
John Berryman wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 05:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Replaced the fan clutch and belt tensioner on my SDL today. No but yesterday I switched the 190D over to Amsoil sytnthetic tranny fluid and changed the filter. Swapped the PS fluid to Amsoil tranny fluid using the dilution method (pull the filter and change the fluid in the reservoir 4-5 times after driving a bit between changes) and changed the filter too. The fluid that came out of the PS was thick in comparison to the Amsoil stuff. It looked like it started out life as a clear fluid but was pretty dirty. Kinda grey with the usual aluminum /metallic swirl. There is definitely less effort required to turn the wheel after the changeover. I've had this happen numerous times when changing PS fluid even when I used plain old Dexron III w/Mercron rather than Mobil 1 or Amsoil. My wagon when I first got it used to bind a little when it was way cold, like 10-25 below 0 F. Changing to synthetic fluid cured that. I can't really tell any difference between the Amsoil and Mobil 1 but I can tell you that both brands improve tranny feel as well as steering input. The Amsoil fluid is supposed to be good up to 100,000mi. What's Mobil's claim for longevity on their synthetic tranny fluid? I agree that changing the PS or transmission fluid (even to NORMAL stuff) usually makes things feel better. Mobil 1 made them feel even better! Mercedes transmissions need to have the filter AND fluid changed every 30 kmi or a little sooner - it's not the fluid life, but to get all the particulate (from the clutches) out and to replace the filter. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
Cleaning, paints, and mounting 117.985 parts -- slowly but surely -- How did tightening the belt tensioner bolt into the timing case go? Did you try to torque it? Mine (2x) have felt like they were going to strip before I got up to the torque spec. On 1/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replaced the fan clutch and belt tensioner on my SDL today. -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 06:15 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: By the wayare you all settled and back to the daily grind Johnny B? Bob Rentfro For the time being yes. I'm Taking a break for a good long time but I am designing a house and garage that I will commence building in the Spring. We plan on selling it way in the future. Its basically an addition to our retirement portfolio. Otherwise, I've been tinkering on the new to me 190 D 2.5Euro, just trying to get everything working perfectly. The good news is that I have very little left to do. I'm also anxiously awaiting the arrival of a new PowerMac G5 Dual 2.7GHz Tower and Apple Cinema Display. It will have the new Operating System OS X v10.4.4 (Tiger). So I'm looking forward to learning as much as I can about it while I have this time allotted for Taking a Break. I'm hoping to find a good, easy to use CAD program for the Mac, it would be helpful for my future construction projects. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] End of month car list
I was going by the year, figured the only 6-cyl diesel they made in '91 was the dreaded 3.5. On 1/29/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking it is. Does not look like the 3l 603 and more like the bender engine I saw at the shop On Saturday, January 28, 2006, at 11:42 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/129117173.html -- 300GD $31k Rodbender? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] DIY Maybach repair
Heh heh heh, turns out it's not the ethnic groups Clay thought were destroying the cars in the PnP's before he showed up, it's the Romanians. The ever pragmatic Romanians just use whatever tools they've got available at the moment, so it's all been a big misunderstanding. On 1/29/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Kaleb, maybe you can hire this guy to do the body work on the cars that follow you home! Click link in first post: http://500ecstasy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2823 Sure wish I could understand whatever language they're speaking. BTW- I believe MSRP on that Maybach is somewhere in the mid six figures. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] Parts replacement
Replaced the fan clutch and belt tensioner on my SDL today I'm happy to report that my car does not have an engine driven fan and thus, no clutch. It also has no aux fans or an AC compressor clutch. Plenty of other stuff to crap out, of course. RLE
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 07:02 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: I agree that changing the PS or transmission fluid (even to NORMAL stuff) usually makes things feel better. Mobil 1 made them feel even better! Mercedes transmissions need to have the filter AND fluid changed every 30 kmi or a little sooner - it's not the fluid life, but to get all the particulate (from the clutches) out and to replace the filter. Marshall I wouldn't dream of running the fluid at its estimated life-span of 100,000 miles (unless analysis tells me its OK) but the filter will no doubt need attention before the fluid. Perhaps the Amsoil synthetic trans fluid is so good that it reduces wear to the point that the filter doesn't have much to filter. You never know. BTW Marshall, Do you have any comparative data between Mobil 1 and Amsoil? I just became an Amsoil dealer, mostly for my convenience but also because I have used their products with analysis and have yet to send a sample of either Amsoil or Mobil 1 that comes back with bad results. I have run synthetic oil from both for 22,000mi and both were close to the soot saturation limits but otherwise tested fine. I have no intention of adding bypass filters. With these results from the lab, I have the confidence to regularly change oil and filter at 15,000mi. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
[MBZ] Radio Fuse?
Benzers, The Becker radio on the 82 300CD went dead. Antenna also doesn't move. Replaced fuses in main box, radio still dead. Found a little fuse or resistor in the radio power supply line, measures at about 1/2 to 1 ohm. What is it, and what should its resistance be? What else should be checked? Thanks, Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' - Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, more on new and used cars. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 30 01:18:06 2006 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F3NgE-0006dB-PM for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 01:18:06 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id 2006013001180201200kc36he; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 01:18:03 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 20:19:41 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] End of month car list X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 01:18:07 - Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/129117173.html -- 300GD $31k Rodbender? It's a non-turbo engine. Very reliable engine. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] End of month car list
The GD's had the 617 in them until '89 and the 616 until '87. http://4x4abc.com/G-Class/engines.html On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:09:22 -0600, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going by the year, figured the only 6-cyl diesel they made in '91 was the dreaded 3.5. On 1/29/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking it is. Does not look like the 3l 603 and more like the bender engine I saw at the shop On Saturday, January 28, 2006, at 11:42 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/129117173.html -- 300GD $31k Rodbender? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo -- Luther Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] Wiper blades
I got Michelin blades for my Dodge pickup just the other day, today driving back from Maine it rained most of the way and I agree they're very nice. -Curt Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:40:21 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiper blades To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original One of the numerous times I was over in Cal last year, I needed to get wiperblades for the VW. I went to the store where those three cartoon guys work and they had Michelin replacment blades. They are awesome. I don't believe they were crazy expensive. They wierd thing is, I never see them for sale anywhere anymore... Bob Rentfro '77 200D 148K '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K Litchfield Park, AZ - Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 30 02:24:07 2006 Received: from [70.184.21.183] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1F3Oi6-0003cp-SV for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 02:24:07 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 20:24:05 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 02:24:07 - when I first read this just now I though marshall was switching to amsoil Marshall Booth wrote: John Berryman wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 05:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Replaced the fan clutch and belt tensioner on my SDL today. No but yesterday I switched the 190D over to Amsoil sytnthetic tranny fluid and changed the filter. Swapped the PS fluid to Amsoil tranny fluid using the dilution method (pull the filter and change the fluid in the reservoir 4-5 times after driving a bit between changes) and changed the filter too. The fluid that came out of the PS was thick in comparison to the Amsoil stuff. It looked like it started out life as a clear fluid but was pretty dirty. Kinda grey with the usual aluminum /metallic swirl. There is definitely less effort required to turn the wheel after the changeover. I've had this happen numerous times when changing PS fluid even when I used plain old Dexron III w/Mercron rather than Mobil 1 or Amsoil. My wagon when I first got it used to bind a little when it was way cold, like 10-25 below 0 F. Changing to synthetic fluid cured that. I can't really tell any difference between the Amsoil and Mobil 1 but I can tell you that both brands improve tranny feel as well as steering input. The Amsoil fluid is supposed to be good up to 100,000mi. What's Mobil's claim for longevity on their synthetic tranny fluid? I agree that changing the PS or transmission fluid (even to NORMAL stuff) usually makes things feel better. Mobil 1 made them feel even better! Mercedes transmissions need to have the filter AND fluid changed every 30 kmi or a little sooner - it's not the fluid life, but to get all the particulate (from the clutches) out and to replace the filter. Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
mine torqued down nice and snug, no problems there. OK Don wrote: Cleaning, paints, and mounting 117.985 parts -- slowly but surely -- How did tightening the belt tensioner bolt into the timing case go? Did you try to torque it? Mine (2x) have felt like they were going to strip before I got up to the torque spec. On 1/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replaced the fan clutch and belt tensioner on my SDL today. -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset
Sorry, I mostly gloss over most OT things but I have a weekness for anything diesel powered. I wish all my vehicles were diesel powered. Now all I need to do is find a donor Mitsu Mighty Max diesel truck to re-power my 88 Mitsu Montero. On 1/28/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:43:45 -0800 Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys need to check this guys gen. project out http://www.f1-rocketboy.com/lister.html This was posted a couple of months ago, but it's nice to look at again. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
I spent 1 1/2 days this weekend trying to help my nephew-in-law get his Blazer running well enough to drive to work tomorrow. About noon Sunday, I threw in the towel and bought him a 1988 Cutlass Ciera. Then we got to spend an afternoon cobbling together the exhaust, catching up on PM, etc. I was amazed that the old heap tracked smooth and straight on the freeway at 80mph when we test drove it. I offered the PO $300, she took it without hesitation. I was even more amazed to find out the 2.5L 4 Tech engine did not take the PF47 spin-on filter. There was a 3 diameter oil drain plug, with a paper cartridge filter above it. Whoever bungled the last oil change glued it together with silicone instead of replacing the rotting rubber gasket. Ever try to buy a gasket for one of those giant drain plugs at 5pm on a Sunday? It took a while to help the Autozone guys find it in their computer, not in stock. At least one of the guys at Advance Auto Parts knew what it was, but he said he couldn't get one until Tuesday. I ended up gluing it in with silicone. He can buy a new gasket when the dealer is open, and I'll replace it in three weeks when he's got 3000 miles on the oil. Now I'm doing my laundry so I can go to work tomorrow.
Re: [MBZ] Rear Diff PM...Maybe
19mm allen for what? The diff plug? If so, its a 14mm allen. John Berryman wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 06:11 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: How about the rear diff PM... I noticed that it is seeping a tad and since it's in dry lay up until I get the caliper rebuild parts from Rusty perhaps I should service the critter. What must I do? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 148K You'll need a 19mm allen. Make sure the fill plug can be removed prior to draining it. I use synthetic gear lube, Mobil 1 and Amsoil . Again, they flow much better in the serious cold. I can tell the difference between conventional gear lubes and the sytnthetic by how fast my car rolls down this big hill by my house. I test products in the Frozen White North, mostly because that's where I live. Although some of my methods may not seem too scientific the results tell me what I need to know. As I have mentioned before, I have a black belt in driving diesels in extreme cold temperatures. Synthetic lubricants make it much better. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] End of month car list
Aha! I get it... if that chart is correct, in '91 they made both a 300GD with a 603.931 (non-turbo, Marshall says) and a 350GD with a 603.972 rodbender. Interesting. Too bad they didn't do the same with the W126! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo On 1/29/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GD's had the 617 in them until '89 and the 616 until '87. http://4x4abc.com/G-Class/engines.html On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:09:22 -0600, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going by the year, figured the only 6-cyl diesel they made in '91 was the dreaded 3.5. On 1/29/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking it is. Does not look like the 3l 603 and more like the bender engine I saw at the shop On Saturday, January 28, 2006, at 11:42 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/129117173.html -- 300GD $31k Rodbender? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 116/123/126 whats the deal?
Bob, When I first got my '80 300SD (W116) in '89, there were different motor mounts for each side. IIRC, the right side was a little stiffer to offset the torque. Don't remember when it changed in 90's, but they are now the same. And they are a 123 part number. Take care, Chuck 1980 300SD 1986 190E 2.3 16V... Now in Abilene, TX and taking her back to Phoenix. On Jan 28, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: Bob DuPuy wrote: Is the or is there not a difference between the port side and starboard side motor mounts. I've been told there used to be but now they are supperseded to the same number, and now that there is a difference. what is the real truth? Depends. Some engines/cars have different left and right mounts and some don't. Marshall
Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S?
On 1/29/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fanciers, I was in Minneapolis tonight to hit a party at First Avenue, and I walked past an interesting Benz: From the late '80s or early 90's by me estimation. Long wheelbase. Didn't pay much attention 'til I saw the uncharacteristic V12 emblem on the side (I think behind the rear passenger window) (the style of the lettering was what looked funny to me). I agree that the V12 badge looks odd on those. The V in particular, I seem to recall, doesn't seem to fit in with the other characters in the Mercedes font. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 116/123/126 whats the deal?
Chuck Landenberger wrote: Bob, When I first got my '80 300SD (W116) in '89, there were different motor mounts for each side. IIRC, the right side was a little stiffer to offset the torque. Don't remember when it changed in 90's, but they are now the same. And they are a 123 part number. I got two different ones from Rusty in 2002 or 2003. I just checked Rusty's web site, shows different mounts by Febi (right) and Lemforder (left) for $24.15 and $20.17, or Corteco/Freudenberg lists the same part number for right and left, only $13.64. If putting a Febi on the right and a Lemforder on the left makes it work as the factory intended, it might be worth the extra $17 or so. Question for the people who have claimed very short life for new motor mounts, were those Freudenberg mounts?
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: when I first read this just now I though marshall was switching to amsoil Amsoil sells real good oil. Mobil supplies them with the raw oil and they concoct the additive package. The tribologists at Mobil say the additive package is really great for some special situations (like racing and other severe operating situations). There is NO evidence that the additive package that Amsoil uses is of ANY benefit under more normal operating conditions and the longevity of Amsoil (or Mobil 1) is of no value in a Mercedes diesel since the oil must be changed to get rid of the soot LONG before the oil or additives wear out. When you can get Amsoil for the same price as Mobil 1, I see NO problem using it, but if it costs more, go with Mobil! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Maybach further damage
Sure wish I could understand whatever language they're speaking.. Romanian. RLE
Re: [MBZ] ISO 300D turbo (W123) in GOOD condition
Jeez, you should have bought him the 700 dollar SDL. It could have been made decent with some labor, a welder and a few parts. At 07:22 PM 1/28/2006, you wrote: anybody have any leads, preferably in the midwest area, so we (friend and I) can check it out? My parish priest wants one. He loves my SD and one of his teachers in the school (a MOPAR nut) got a great deal on a nice 240D a few months back. (He already replaced both axles (one was bad and he figured he might as well do them both because they were cheap and easy - MB axles too)) and upgraded the read diff for more speed in 4th - MOPAR guys make good diesel converts). With 9 diesel MB's (newest being 1985) gracing the Church parking lot, Father Dean wants to sell his Toyota and jump on the bandwagon. Any help is appreciated. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Hey LT Don...How's the VW?
It was converted to the Fast glow plugs. The slow glow plugs are still faster than the loop type glow plugs.., Turn the key on, pullout the cold start handle, fasten the seat belt and ignite the fuel (hit the starter) Zoom! goes like a ra*ed ape At 12:00 AM 1/29/2006, you wrote: Bob -- Starter went in today. I had to go over and assist the mech with putting together the ball bearings / race of the half shaft. Jeff had spent an hour on it and gave up in frustration, and I spent two hours studying the assembly of the removed version. Suddenly the light bulb went off -- turn the race sideways and slide in, instead of trying to do everything flat -- and in a few seconds I was instant hero. Tomorrow, we install the new half shaft then drive the car over to where Jeff works (Goodyear). There, we put the car up on the lift and Jeff will fabricate a new exhaust system. Bleed the brakes, fix slow leak in one tire, maybe do a coolant change, and I can drive it to work on Monday morning. I am really impressed with the VW diesel engine. Pre-glow is single-digit seconds, not the minute or so that I am used to with the 240D. Idle is smooth. I can't wait to take it up thru the 5 speeds to see how well the clutch works and how smooth the shifting is. On 1/28/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey LT Don, how's the VW doing? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 148K '01 VW Beetle TDI '61K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rear Diff PM...Maybe
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 09:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: 19mm allen for what? The diff plug? If so, its a 14mm allen. John Berryman wrote: To beat the 14mm in, what else. I was thinking conversion 9/16 and the 9 got caught up in it somehow. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S?
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 10:06 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: I agree that the V12 badge looks odd on those. The V in particular, I seem to recall, doesn't seem to fit in with the other characters in the Mercedes font. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo It does stand-out. Maybe that's the intention. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 10:26 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: When you can get Amsoil for the same price as Mobil 1, I see NO problem using it, but if it costs more, go with Mobil! Marshall To go and buy Mobil 1 products is at least a 50 mile round trip and then half of the time I can't find what I need or enough of it in 1 store. Last week I went to 4 places and called 6 looking for Mobil 1 trans fluid to no avail. So I pay a bit more for a good product, delivered to my door. I have 3-5qt jugs of M1 15-50 that I found at a Wal-mart last month. I bought them all and wanted another, the store clerk told me they won't be carrying the 15-50 at that store any more. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S?
Alex, yes - that's what I recall and am talking about when I say it looked sort of out of place (I thought bogus). Good observation. Stout car though. Anybody know the h.p., torque, and performance specs? Brian From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S? Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:06:36 -0800 On 1/29/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fanciers, I was in Minneapolis tonight to hit a party at First Avenue, and I walked past an interesting Benz: From the late '80s or early 90's by me estimation. Long wheelbase. Didn't pay much attention 'til I saw the uncharacteristic V12 emblem on the side (I think behind the rear passenger window) (the style of the lettering was what looked funny to me). I agree that the V12 badge looks odd on those. The V in particular, I seem to recall, doesn't seem to fit in with the other characters in the Mercedes font. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset
I got to drive a 2.5td Pajero (US Montero) while living in Japan. Great setup for that type of vehicle. Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD
Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S?
402 horsepower 428 torque Amazing car to drive. Love ours. Lots of power. Wiring sucks. James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL 1995 E320 - Original Message - From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S? Alex, yes - that's what I recall and am talking about when I say it looked sort of out of place (I thought bogus). Good observation. Stout car though. Anybody know the h.p., torque, and performance specs? Brian From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S? Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:06:36 -0800 On 1/29/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fanciers, I was in Minneapolis tonight to hit a party at First Avenue, and I walked past an interesting Benz: From the late '80s or early 90's by me estimation. Long wheelbase. Didn't pay much attention 'til I saw the uncharacteristic V12 emblem on the side (I think behind the rear passenger window) (the style of the lettering was what looked funny to me). I agree that the V12 badge looks odd on those. The V in particular, I seem to recall, doesn't seem to fit in with the other characters in the Mercedes font. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S vs 8 Cyl 500
How does that compare to the 5 litre V8? Some say that the V8 is the better motor, particularly in the SL due to the extra weight of the V12. Have you driven a 600SL? I don't think that the extra weight is going to affect handling in the sedan as much and the extra torque would be an asset in the heavier four door. Hendrik with the mighty four banger Merc and a couple of six cylinder diesel 4x4's - Original Message - From: James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S? 402 horsepower 428 torque Amazing car to drive. Love ours. Lots of power. Wiring sucks. James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL 1995 E320 - Original Message - From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S? Alex, yes - that's what I recall and am talking about when I say it looked sort of out of place (I thought bogus). Good observation. Stout car though. Anybody know the h.p., torque, and performance specs? Brian
Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S vs 8 Cyl 500
we have the 8 in the SL and in my opinion that is the proper motor for the car. plenty of power, handles well. doesn't seem to have the wiring problems the 1990's S class has. From what I've read the major problem is the oil tubes in the motor. Jim - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S vs 8 Cyl 500 How does that compare to the 5 litre V8? Some say that the V8 is the better motor, particularly in the SL due to the extra weight of the V12. Have you driven a 600SL? I don't think that the extra weight is going to affect handling in the sedan as much and the extra torque would be an asset in the heavier four door. Hendrik with the mighty four banger Merc and a couple of six cylinder diesel 4x4's - Original Message - From: James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S? 402 horsepower 428 torque Amazing car to drive. Love ours. Lots of power. Wiring sucks. James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL 1995 E320 - Original Message - From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12 Cyl 600S? Alex, yes - that's what I recall and am talking about when I say it looked sort of out of place (I thought bogus). Good observation. Stout car though. Anybody know the h.p., torque, and performance specs? Brian ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
Had a strange problem with my 78 240D last Thursday - was on the Interstate
doing 70 or so when I heard a bump and noticed the dash lights on and water
temp rising - knew a belt was gone so I switched off and coasted to a stop.
The AC belt was off its pulleys and laying on the engine bay - the alt/water
pump/ crank belt was no where to be seen. I saw it a 1/4 mile down the road
in 2 pieces! Anyway - couldn;t get the PS belt loose to remove so I cut it
and got my spare belt from the trunk - didn;t have proper wrnech to adjust
the alternator so the belt would fit so I managed to pry it on over the main
pulley - it was a little loose but it got us home.
All new belts (the old ones were only about 5 years/30,000 miles old) and
now all is well - but it has emphasized the need to do a detailed check of
the belts more often than I did. I usually check things over about once a
month but since becoming disabled and no longer driving to work the 240D was
being used less less I obviously wasn;t checking things often enough.
It always starts instantly (without block heater) in weather to the
teens - but it seems quieter now that it has new belts. Anyway - take a few
minutes to examine your belts - it ain;t NO fun to work on the side of the
road! I feel *very* fortunate to have been able to wrestle the belt back
over the pulleys so we could get home without a tow. I've also updated my
tool kit to include wrenches needed to loosen retighten the alternator. I
can easily get along with out AC and PS - but we ain;t going NO where
without the water pump. Oh yeah, I'm glad I had a razor to cut the PS
belt - made life easier -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D - 287k)
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Re: [MBZ] O/T Satellite Antenna
Will do. Heater wires should not be a problem. Heated windshield, as in late model Lexi or Range Rover, can be a problem. Interestingly, I had a solar windshield in my '02 Audi that blocked my Fastlane transponder and probably reduced the performance of my Valentine V1, while the Nav system worked fine. Lee '93 300D 2.5L 182K '95 A6 quattro avant 150K '96 A6 quattro avant 113K -Original Message- From: OK Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Satellite Antenna Let us know if the GPS antenna works inder the rear shelf - I don't know whether the heater wires in the rear window will block the signal enough to be a problem. On my W124 I installed the GPS antenna below the rear deck, next to the speaker. Again, no metal between the antenna and the sky, and it's totally invisible. Note - I have not yet hooked up the antenna so I can't verify that it works, but it *should*. So you might want to consider hiding it. Easier to install and wire, no worries about losing it in a carwash or ice storm, less likely for a thief to target your car... Lee '93 300D 2.5 182K -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
[MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL
eBay item 4608220272 is a '91 350SDL with ~56k miles.
Is this one of the rod benders? Is 56k too early for the problem to arise?
It doesn;t mention the problem being addressed - its a W126 and not a W140
chassis - but the engine is my concern -
I'm not crazy about big black MBs the currect price of $12.6k+ is beyond
my comfort zone - so this is info more for my reference than anythng else -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
I have had the best longevity with Continental belts. You can get them
from Rusty US made belts are of all forms of quality, and it is not
usually obvious which are good and which are not. There some very good
ones out there but Conti belts are consistent.
At 08:07 AM 1/30/2006, you wrote:
Had a strange problem with my 78 240D last Thursday - was on the Interstate
doing 70 or so when I heard a bump and noticed the dash lights on and water
temp rising - knew a belt was gone so I switched off and coasted to a stop.
The AC belt was off its pulleys and laying on the engine bay - the alt/water
pump/ crank belt was no where to be seen. I saw it a 1/4 mile down the road
in 2 pieces! Anyway - couldn;t get the PS belt loose to remove so I cut it
and got my spare belt from the trunk - didn;t have proper wrnech to adjust
the alternator so the belt would fit so I managed to pry it on over the main
pulley - it was a little loose but it got us home.
All new belts (the old ones were only about 5 years/30,000 miles old) and
now all is well - but it has emphasized the need to do a detailed check of
the belts more often than I did. I usually check things over about once a
month but since becoming disabled and no longer driving to work the 240D was
being used less less I obviously wasn;t checking things often enough.
It always starts instantly (without block heater) in weather to the
teens - but it seems quieter now that it has new belts. Anyway - take a few
minutes to examine your belts - it ain;t NO fun to work on the side of the
road! I feel *very* fortunate to have been able to wrestle the belt back
over the pulleys so we could get home without a tow. I've also updated my
tool kit to include wrenches needed to loosen retighten the alternator. I
can easily get along with out AC and PS - but we ain;t going NO where
without the water pump. Oh yeah, I'm glad I had a razor to cut the PS
belt - made life easier -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D - 287k)
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL
yes its a rod bender, with those miles they could bend at any moment.
If it had 300K on it its possible they might not bend.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
eBay item 4608220272 is a '91 350SDL with ~56k miles.
Is this one of the rod benders? Is 56k too early for the problem to arise?
It doesn;t mention the problem being addressed - its a W126 and not a W140
chassis - but the engine is my concern -
I'm not crazy about big black MBs the currect price of $12.6k+ is beyond
my comfort zone - so this is info more for my reference than anythng else -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
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[MBZ] Rear Diff PM/Sr. Moment
What rear diff lubricant was I told is the beat to put in after I make sure the fill plug can be removed (14mm Johnny B) and I drain out the old? Bob Rentfro From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 30 14:49:26 2006 Received: from pop-savannah.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.69]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F3aLO-wp-R6 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:49:26 + Received: from user-112063q.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.24.122] helo=Bill) by pop-savannah.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1F3aLI-0002Tv-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:49:20 -0500 From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:49:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-index: AcYlrFhOKrL1dFg2TuGfrKGJP7/zFw=Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] S600 wiring X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:49:27 - Amazing car to drive. Love ours. Lots of power. Wiring sucks. James Zavesky James - I have been toying with the idea of getting an S600 - one on ebay now looks pretty good, but I am not ready to make the jump. What is the problem with the wiring? I thought pre '94's should be ok. For all those who offered help with the erratic blinker: It is still an occasional problem, but playing with it [flashers, blinkers, stalk] usually stops it. Never had the panel off where the flasher switch is located, and I don't think I am getting contact cleaner where it needs to go. Is there a simple way to get access to that switch? BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 270k miles
Re: [MBZ] 300CD Tranny question
Paul, If it's flaring on ALL shifts, it's probably vacuum modulator related. There used to be a good article on mbz.org that described adjusting the vacuum switch on the top of the IP and the vacuum modulator down on the transmission. If you're making the Dallas to Austin trip again, you could stop by and I'll help you put the gauges on it. I've still got my homemeade modulator pressure gauge left over from my 300D 722.315 days. Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1995 E320 On 1/28/06, paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently purchased a '83 300CD for dirt cheap, and drove it from Dallas to Austin and back. I noticed that there's a slight flair from 1st to 2nd, and sometimes from 2nd to 3rd. It also takes a second a or two to drop into reverse. What should i inspect/replace first? B2 piston? 'tanks, Paul
Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 09:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I usually check things over about once a month but since becoming disabled and no longer driving to work the 240D was being used less less I obviously wasn;t checking things often enough. Disabled Larry? I was gone for a long time what happened? I hope your mending well. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL
On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 09:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this one of the rod benders? Is 56k too early for the problem to arise? It doesn;t mention the problem being addressed - its a W126 and not a W140 chassis - but the engine is my concern - As far as I know, all 3.5s are rod benders. I have heard of these engines being bad as early as 35,000. I have driven a couple with over 200,000 that had no problems or excessive oil consumption up to that time. I'm sure these were the exception, not the rule. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 116/123/126 whats the deal?
The only difference I can see on my 126/617.95 is that the right side hase a tapped hole (6mm ?) on top with nothing in it. The other side doesn't. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] S600 wiring
the wiring degrades! Plan on replacing ALL the harness'. The ETA's harness is also know to degrade, fortunately my ETA's were fine. Replacing the evaporator and rear accumulators are the least of your worries. Are you watching the 1992 white one with the fogs in the bumper? That one has late model wood in it, looks like it's been gone through. Jim - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:49 AM Subject: [MBZ] S600 wiring Amazing car to drive. Love ours. Lots of power. Wiring sucks. James Zavesky James - I have been toying with the idea of getting an S600 - one on ebay now looks pretty good, but I am not ready to make the jump. What is the problem with the wiring? I thought pre '94's should be ok. For all those who offered help with the erratic blinker: It is still an occasional problem, but playing with it [flashers, blinkers, stalk] usually stops it. Never had the panel off where the flasher switch is located, and I don't think I am getting contact cleaner where it needs to go. Is there a simple way to get access to that switch? BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 270k miles ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] S600 wiring
On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 09:49 AM, BillR wrote: For all those who offered help with the erratic blinker: It is still an occasional problem, but playing with it [flashers, blinkers, stalk] usually stops it. Never had the panel off where the flasher switch is located, and I don't think I am getting contact cleaner where it needs to go. Is there a simple way to get access to that switch? BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 270k miles Yes, remove it and disassemble, clean, lube and put it back together. Most switches simply pull out of the dash/console. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 116/123/126 whats the deal?
On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote: The only difference I can see on my 126/617.95 is that the right side hase a tapped hole (6mm ?) on top with nothing in it. The other side doesn't. Could it be for the engine shock absorber? Or a missing bolt? the mounting from side to side is the same, one bolt up (10mm allen) and two going down (6mm Allen) Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 116/123/126 whats the deal?
Hans Neureiter wrote: The only difference I can see on my 126/617.95 is that the right side hase a tapped hole (6mm ?) on top with nothing in it. The other side doesn't. One side is stiffer than the other when the sides are NOT identical. It's NOT something you can easily see (that's why they were color coded). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
[MBZ] Replacing ignition tumbler w123 (300D)
This past weekend I replaced the ignition tumbler in my 82 300TD. I was surprised that the write-ups that I found on the Internet were almost all for the w124, the series after mine, which use a different tool and has a different process. It is really very easy. I used a hair pin, one of those symmetrical ones with all the plastic removed from the tip, or you could use a pin, but you need very stiff wire. The w123's have a single hole on the face of the tumbler where the key goes in. By inserting the wire in there, after turning the key to position 1 you release a protrusion from the tumbler. You can find this hole by putting the key in and turning while gently pushing the hair pin in towards the tumbler. After you push the pin in you can pull on the key which will release the tumbler. The tumbler will come out about an 1/8th of an inch. At this point you will be able to unscrew the black cover that goes around the tumbler. There is a special tool that is used to get good friction on this heavy metal cover as it is smooth and can be hard to get started. I did not use this tool. After this cover is unscrewed both the black cover piece and the tumbler will come completely out. You basically just reverse the process to get it all back together. Taking your new tumbler and putting the black cover over it with the pin in place then inserting this all into the ignition assembly. You then screw the black cover back on until it finally is far enough in that the spring loaded protrusion pops out and stops the cover from turning. Finished. Hope this helps someone with this job. If you wait too long to do this, until the tumbler fails it is very expensive and time consuming to have to drill out the lock. Regards to the list, Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 92kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] S600 wiring
BillR wrote: Amazing car to drive. Love ours. Lots of power. Wiring sucks. James Zavesky James - I have been toying with the idea of getting an S600 - one on ebay now looks pretty good, but I am not ready to make the jump. What is the problem with the wiring? I thought pre '94's should be ok. For all those who offered help with the erratic blinker: It is still an occasional problem, but playing with it [flashers, blinkers, stalk] usually stops it. Never had the panel off where the flasher switch is located, and I don't think I am getting contact cleaner where it needs to go. Is there a simple way to get access to that switch? Some cars (W140s for sure) got the biodegradable wiring (and all of the wiring problem associated with that) in 1992 while others (like the 124 diesel) didn't have until 1995. Just depends on on the particular chassis AND engine. Usually switching the Hazard switch on and off about 100 times will clean it or break so it requires replacement to restore reliable function. Have you tried cleaning (or buckling/unbucking about 50 times) the seat belt buckle switch? When it gets dirty in early '80s cars - the buzzer may sound. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 116/123/126 whats the deal?
They are all the same, always have been. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob DuPuy Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 7:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] motor mounts 116/123/126 whats the deal? Is the or is there not a difference between the port side and starboard side motor mounts. I've been told there used to be but now they are supperseded to the same number, and now that there is a difference. what is the real truth? Bob DuPuy Parrish, Fl ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 116/123/126 whats the deal?
Only the 300SE SEL have left and right. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] motor mounts 116/123/126 whats the deal? Bob DuPuy wrote: Is the or is there not a difference between the port side and starboard side motor mounts. I've been told there used to be but now they are supperseded to the same number, and now that there is a difference. what is the real truth? Depends. Some engines/cars have different left and right mounts and some don't. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rear Diff PM/Sr. Moment
In a message dated 1/30/2006 7:43:30 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What rear diff lubricant was I told is the beat to put in after I make sure the fill plug can be removed (14mm Johnny B) and I drain out the old? Bob, I use Mobil 1 gear oil in all my cars. Yours will take 1 quart. You can get 75W-90 at Autozone, for about 10 bucks a quart, and Mobil has just released a heavier synthetic which might be ideal for Phoenix, 90W-140 I think, but it is more expensive at about $15 a quart. If you get the plastic can with the tapered tip lid, you can just cut the tip off and squeeze the oil into the differential. Roll the end of the can as you go. No oil pump needed! Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 140 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Replacing ignition tumbler w123 (300D)
In a message dated 1/30/2006 9:15:12 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This past weekend I replaced the ignition tumbler in my 82 300TD. I was surprised that the write-ups that I found on the Internet were almost all for the w124, the series after mine, which use a different tool and has a different process. It is really very easy. I used a hair pin, one of those symmetrical ones with all the plastic removed from the tip, or you could use a pin, but you need very stiff wire. The w123's have a single hole on the face of the tumbler where the key goes in. By inserting the wire in there, after turning the key to position 1 you release a protrusion from the tumbler. You can find this hole by putting the key in and turning while gently pushing the hair pin in towards the tumbler. After you push the pin in you can pull on the key which will release the tumbler. The tumbler will come out about an 1/8th of an inch. At this point you will be able to unscrew the black cover that goes around the tumbler. There is a special tool that is used to get good friction on this heavy metal cover as it is smooth and can be hard to get started. I did not use this tool. After this cover is unscrewed both the black cover piece and the tumbler will come completely out. You basically just reverse the process to get it all back together. Taking your new tumbler and putting the black cover over it with the pin in place then inserting this all into the ignition assembly. You then screw the black cover back on until it finally is far enough in that the spring loaded protrusion pops out and stops the cover from turning. Finished. Hope this helps someone with this job. If you wait too long to do this, until the tumbler fails it is very expensive and time consuming to have to drill out the lock. Dan, Right on, Dan, I used the very same procedure to replace the tumbler on my 116 car, which was cracked and still working. The new key, and copies made from it, also made opening the trunk much easier. Thanks for the writeup. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 140 K miles
Re: [MBZ] S600 wiring
Marshall and John - Thanks for the help. I'll continue with the numerous repitions, and try to get at that switch, and only consider VERY well priced 140's or those with reworked wiring. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S600 wiring BillR wrote: Amazing car to drive. Love ours. Lots of power. Wiring sucks. James Zavesky James - I have been toying with the idea of getting an S600 - one on ebay now looks pretty good, but I am not ready to make the jump. What is the problem with the wiring? I thought pre '94's should be ok. For all those who offered help with the erratic blinker: It is still an occasional problem, but playing with it [flashers, blinkers, stalk] usually stops it. Never had the panel off where the flasher switch is located, and I don't think I am getting contact cleaner where it needs to go. Is there a simple way to get access to that switch? Some cars (W140s for sure) got the biodegradable wiring (and all of the wiring problem associated with that) in 1992 while others (like the 124 diesel) didn't have until 1995. Just depends on on the particular chassis AND engine. Usually switching the Hazard switch on and off about 100 times will clean it or break so it requires replacement to restore reliable function. Have you tried cleaning (or buckling/unbucking about 50 times) the seat belt buckle switch? When it gets dirty in early '80s cars - the buzzer may sound. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Hey LT Don...How's the VW?
Loren Faeth wrote: It was converted to the Fast glow plugs. The slow glow plugs are still faster than the loop type glow plugs.., Turn the key on, pullout the cold start handle, fasten the seat belt and ignite the fuel (hit the starter) Zoom! goes like a ra*ed ape I love how fast VW diesels catch on warm starts, too. Most I've seen will start on the first compression stroke. Just touch the key and they're running.
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
Mitch Haley wrote: I was even more amazed to find out the 2.5L 4 Tech engine did not take the PF47 spin-on filter. There was a 3 diameter oil drain plug, with a paper cartridge filter above it. Ah, yes. A friend of mine who used to own one of those cars had some choice words about that design. It makes for rather messy oil changes. That engine's tendancy to ooze oil all over the place is one of the reasons they tended to catch fire in the cramped engine bays of Fieros. GM cars of that era are kind of weird. They either fly apart before 100,000 miles, or keep running long after you wish they would fly apart so you could feel justified in getting something else. ;)
[MBZ] Blower motor fuse, 300 SDL
No blower operation at any push button position. #16 fuse looked good but was replaced, no change. Does anyone know if there is another fuse on the SDL? There was a thread recently discussing a requirement to add an inline fuse for the 126 but that might have been for pre 86 and 87 SDLs, I don't know. Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans
[MBZ] '83 300SD unreliable fuel delivery
My SD has it's moments of fuel pressure loss. You can be crusing down the interstate and suddenly feel a power loss that lasts less than 1/2 second...something exactly like taking your foot off and back on the throttle. Also, at cold start it's very rough and needs to have enough throttle to keep at least 800-900 RPM to run somewhat smooth and not die. Glow plugs are barely 2 years old and the injector pump and injectors were replaced by the P/O (maybe 50kmi ago). I've replaced all the rubber fuel line from tank to primer in the last 8 months. I'm thinking from my experience in the semi-diesel world that I have a lift pump that's weak. I read 07.1-145 Checking fuel pump and bypass valve and it seems that the bypass valve can get clogged and needs to be cleaned and the spring lengthened to increase tension. Is there anyone else that has had an issue similar to this where cleaning the bypass valve fixed the issue or did they have to replace the fuel pump? (btw fuel, primer, lift...they all mean the same thing in the big diesel world) TIA all, -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] Blower motor fuse, 300 SDL
Look on the inner fender in front of the fuse box. Mine has a 1/2 inch square by 1 1/2 box there. Inside it has a 30 A fuse strip, similar to the glow plug fuse. (GP fuse is 60A) At 12:32 PM 1/30/2006, you wrote: No blower operation at any push button position. #16 fuse looked good but was replaced, no change. Does anyone know if there is another fuse on the SDL? There was a thread recently discussing a requirement to add an inline fuse for the 126 but that might have been for pre 86 and 87 SDLs, I don't know. Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] cheap SDL
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4608839446 -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] S600 wiring
Yeah - that is the one that got my interest. It will be a few months at least before I decide what I will get- something like that or an SDL or just do a more through update on my SD. Mostly at this point I am into creature comfort. I don't really drive enough to worry about it too much, but what kind of mileage does that beast get? I drive mostly around town, with occasional road trips of a few hundred miles to keep things in shape. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Zavesky Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:15 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S600 wiring the wiring degrades! Plan on replacing ALL the harness'. The ETA's harness is also know to degrade, fortunately my ETA's were fine. Replacing the evaporator and rear accumulators are the least of your worries. Are you watching the 1992 white one with the fogs in the bumper? That one has late model wood in it, looks like it's been gone through. Jim - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:49 AM Subject: [MBZ] S600 wiring Amazing car to drive. Love ours. Lots of power. Wiring sucks. James Zavesky James - I have been toying with the idea of getting an S600 - one on ebay now looks pretty good, but I am not ready to make the jump. What is the problem with the wiring? I thought pre '94's should be ok. For all those who offered help with the erratic blinker: It is still an occasional problem, but playing with it [flashers, blinkers, stalk] usually stops it. Never had the panel off where the flasher switch is located, and I don't think I am getting contact cleaner where it needs to go. Is there a simple way to get access to that switch? BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 270k miles ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] backwoods MD rodbender SDL
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4608832854 -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] '83 300SD unreliable fuel delivery
On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 01:47 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote: My SD has it's moments of fuel pressure loss. You can be crusing down the interstate and suddenly feel a power loss that lasts less than 1/2 second...something exactly like taking your foot off and back on the throttle. Also, at cold start it's very rough and needs to have enough throttle to keep at least 800-900 RPM to run somewhat smooth and not die. Glow plugs are barely 2 years old and the injector pump and injectors were replaced by the P/O (maybe 50kmi ago). I've replaced all the rubber fuel line from tank to primer in the last 8 months. I'm thinking from my experience in the semi-diesel world that I have a lift pump that's weak. I read 07.1-145 Checking fuel pump and bypass valve and it seems that the bypass valve can get clogged and needs to be cleaned and the spring lengthened to increase tension. Is there anyone else that has had an issue similar to this where cleaning the bypass valve fixed the issue or did they have to replace the fuel pump? (btw fuel, primer, lift...they all mean the same thing in the big diesel world) TIA all, Have you checked/cleaned/changed the primary filter? They can and do clog and I'm sure you know the car will run as you described. The secondary (spin-on) filter can clog too but is less likely to. Silly question: Could you be low on fuel? I've had some lying fuel gauges cause me to run low. How about water in the fuel? It happens. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] '83 300SD unreliable fuel delivery
I'm thinking from my experience in the semi-diesel world that I have a lift pump that's weak. The hand-operated primer pump can start to leak air. Try using it, if it oozes fuel at all it's a bad sign. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Blower motor fuse, 300 SDL
No blower operation at any push button position. #16 fuse looked good but was replaced, no change. It is also possible that the blower brushes have given up. Other than the fan not working, is the ACC system acting OK? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] '83 300SD unreliable fuel delivery
Fuel filters were changed after a Diesel Purge at the last valve adjust in early November. Problem happens with a full or empty tank of fuel. Primer pump might be a year old now and is the new style. I don't know about water in the fuel, I might purchase some addative and give that a try. I've always fueled at the same location (unless on a road trip, then always at FlyingJ) with both the CD and SD and my parents fill their '85D up at the same location. I've never had a quality issue with their fuel. ~ ~ ~On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 01:47 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ Have you checked/cleaned/changed the primary filter? They can and do ~clog and I'm sure you know the car will run as you described. The ~secondary (spin-on) filter can clog too but is less likely to. ~ Silly question: Could you be low on fuel? I've had some lying fuel ~gauges cause me to run low. How about water in the fuel? It happens. ~ ~Johnny B. ~I Mac Therefore I am -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] '83 300SD unreliable fuel delivery
Luther, My cars will exhibit precisely those symptoms when I get a bad batch of bio, or if temps go below cloud point. Thanks, Bruce Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My SD has it's moments of fuel pressure loss. You can be crusing down the interstate and suddenly feel a power loss that lasts less than 1/2 second...something exactly like taking your foot off and back on the throttle. Also, at cold start it's very rough and needs to have enough throttle to keep at least 800-900 RPM to run somewhat smooth and not die. Glow plugs are barely 2 years old and the injector pump and injectors were replaced by the P/O (maybe 50kmi ago). I've replaced all the rubber fuel line from tank to primer in the last 8 months. I'm thinking from my experience in the semi-diesel world that I have a lift pump that's weak. I read 07.1-145 Checking fuel pump and bypass valve and it seems that the bypass valve can get clogged and needs to be cleaned and the spring lengthened to increase tension. Is there anyone else that has had an issue similar to this where cleaning the bypass valve fixed the issue or did they have to replace the fuel pump? (btw fuel, primer, lift...they all mean the same thing in the big diesel world) TIA all, -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' - Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, more on new and used cars. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 30 20:35:39 2006 Received: from pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.72]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F3fkR-000607-Lw for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:35:39 + Received: from user-10mt01r.cable.mindspring.com ([65.110.128.59] helo=earthlink.net) by pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1F3fkP-0003uk-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:35:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:35:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] '83 300SD unreliable fuel delivery X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:35:39 - On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 02:55 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote: I've never had a quality issue with their fuel. There's a first time for everything. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] '83 300SD unreliable fuel delivery
95% of all fuel problems are caused because of dirt in the tank. Empty your tank as much as possible (use hose or pump dsl out) Go under your car, remove primary filter (this is the filter in the tank) Have a look it will be dirty all over, clean it and the problem will be solved. Joopster W116 runs 3.5 6cyl Dsl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Berryman Sent: 30 January, 2006 9:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '83 300SD unreliable fuel delivery On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 02:55 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote: I've never had a quality issue with their fuel. There's a first time for everything. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '83 300SD unreliable fuel delivery
it has been ongoing for several months. I will get the tanks as low as possible and check the tank screen. I'm getting the idea that lift pumps don't have many problems in the 617 engines. ~ ~ ~On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 02:55 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote: ~ ~ I've never had a quality issue with their fuel. ~ ~ There's a first time for everything. ~ ~Johnny B. ~I Mac Therefore I am -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
[MBZ] MI SEL needs Timing Chain
http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/129741619.html No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 30 21:39:12 2006 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.193]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F3gjw-0004j3-F0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:39:12 + Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so1492551nzh for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:39:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s¾ta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=quP1+vrJMuR3Q4SbcVdXySg8GJJSjIR+NlYBs9k318OwJRgXDMt592eXF85WKefataffz4R7mZ6bO113t4ExEvGdHmbh6mKlrKV2ueofUbnzKT6Wxor22bUNB3t84pZTggMqiHR3Ng1eDr8nYe0G2cHrTjtftnGrasyRMAL4510Received: by 10.36.48.1 with SMTP id v1mr5120176nzv; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:39:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.109.3 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:39:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:39:09 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preventive Maintenance X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:39:12 - And make sure it's a BRANDED product, and from the MB-approved list of factory fresh air products. On 1/28/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With nitrogen, pure, not the 80% stuff you get for free. --R Richard Murdoch wrote: No point in doing all that unless you change the air in the tires. Should probably do it at least twice to flush them. Richard Murdoch Don't forget the wheel fuses and OE snogulator grease! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Blower motor fuse, 300 SDL
There is a strip fuse outside the fuse box, just be in a little rectangle housing near the main fuse box. Harry Watkins wrote: No blower operation at any push button position. #16 fuse looked good but was replaced, no change. Does anyone know if there is another fuse on the SDL? There was a thread recently discussing a requirement to add an inline fuse for the 126 but that might have been for pre 86 and 87 SDLs, I don't know. Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '83 300SD unreliable fuel delivery
the screen in your tank is getting plugged up. Luther Gulseth wrote: My SD has it's moments of fuel pressure loss. You can be crusing down the interstate and suddenly feel a power loss that lasts less than 1/2 second...something exactly like taking your foot off and back on the throttle. Also, at cold start it's very rough and needs to have enough throttle to keep at least 800-900 RPM to run somewhat smooth and not die. Glow plugs are barely 2 years old and the injector pump and injectors were replaced by the P/O (maybe 50kmi ago). I've replaced all the rubber fuel line from tank to primer in the last 8 months. I'm thinking from my experience in the semi-diesel world that I have a lift pump that's weak. I read 07.1-145 Checking fuel pump and bypass valve and it seems that the bypass valve can get clogged and needs to be cleaned and the spring lengthened to increase tension. Is there anyone else that has had an issue similar to this where cleaning the bypass valve fixed the issue or did they have to replace the fuel pump? (btw fuel, primer, lift...they all mean the same thing in the big diesel world) TIA all, -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Rear Diff PM...Maybe
On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 08:28:13PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: 19mm allen for what? The diff plug? If so, its a 14mm allen. And you can make one using a metric bolt and a couple of nuts if nobody around you sells a 14mm allen for what you want to pay for it. K
Re: [MBZ] cheap SDL
what a basketcase. Luther Gulseth wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4608839446 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] S600 wiring
Further to this I'll note not only will you need to replace the engine wiring, it is also likely you'll replace the throttle actuators (two) which have prices as much as $3000+ each, depending of course who can acquire the parts for you. In reading on another list it has been notice that replacement actuators after oh about 96 have different coloured wiring, leading one to believe perhaps the wiring or part supplier changed things to the better. If said vehicle has any cracked wiring instantly subtract $8K? Lastly I'll note that some folks have discovered that right behind the engine is a plastic water distribution device (dual mono- valves?). That has a tendency now to crack (age/heat) and dump all the coolant. It is a bit ugly to access for replacement, kind of stick on engine, put engine in car, what you to remove it later? Why is that firewall in the way. In general you want to pay a bit extra for a 98 or 99, and ask about the evap and wiring. On 30-Jan-06, at 10:06 AM, BillR wrote: Marshall and John - Thanks for the help. I'll continue with the numerous repitions, and try to get at that switch, and only consider VERY well priced 140's or those with reworked wiring. BillR -Original Message- John 1983 300TDt 361k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 159k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 170k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] S600 wiring
Speaking of evaporator failures, wonder if anyone knows when MB recognized the error of their ways and reinforced this weak link? Was it 96 or so? Which also leads to the thought that perhaps the early 92 and up replacements were not reinforced? Thanks On 1/30/06, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Further to this I'll note not only will you need to replace the engine wiring, it is also likely you'll replace the throttle actuators (two) which have prices as much as $3000+ each, depending of course who can acquire the parts for you. In reading on another list it has been notice that replacement actuators after oh about 96 have different coloured wiring, leading one to believe perhaps the wiring or part supplier changed things to the better. If said vehicle has any cracked wiring instantly subtract $8K? Lastly I'll note that some folks have discovered that right behind the engine is a plastic water distribution device (dual mono- valves?). That has a tendency now to crack (age/heat) and dump all the coolant. It is a bit ugly to access for replacement, kind of stick on engine, put engine in car, what you to remove it later? Why is that firewall in the way. In general you want to pay a bit extra for a 98 or 99, and ask about the evap and wiring. On 30-Jan-06, at 10:06 AM, BillR wrote: Marshall and John - Thanks for the help. I'll continue with the numerous repitions, and try to get at that switch, and only consider VERY well priced 140's or those with reworked wiring. BillR -Original Message- John 1983 300TDt 361k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 159k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 170k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle
Re: [MBZ] S600 wiring
My understanding was that it was never fixed. The alternate fix was to install an evap from a e-class and a baffle to fill in the gap because the e class evap isn't as wide. However the internet is full of stories about evaps being replaced 3 or 4 times in the 90s, so I'm not sure when the alternate fix was put into place. On 30-Jan-06, at 2:20 PM, Desert Rat wrote: Speaking of evaporator failures, wonder if anyone knows when MB recognized the error of their ways and reinforced this weak link? Was it 96 or so? Which also leads to the thought that perhaps the early 92 and up replacements were not reinforced? Thanks
Re: [MBZ] S600 wiring
Sounds like it would be much simpler and cheaper to just keep the dream and not mess it up with reality. Perhaps I'll find a nice 300SDL or just put some more $ into EM. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John M McIntosh Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S600 wiring My understanding was that it was never fixed. The alternate fix was to install an evap from a e-class and a baffle to fill in the gap because the e class evap isn't as wide. However the internet is full of stories about evaps being replaced 3 or 4 times in the 90s, so I'm not sure when the alternate fix was put into place. On 30-Jan-06, at 2:20 PM, Desert Rat wrote: Speaking of evaporator failures, wonder if anyone knows when MB recognized the error of their ways and reinforced this weak link? Was it 96 or so? Which also leads to the thought that perhaps the early 92 and up replacements were not reinforced? Thanks ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] acetone again
http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2598 need another thread about using this? I have a few gallons to burn -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] DIY Maybach repair
Might be. I have not run into them wielding weapons upon the cars. they show up with a bag of tools that seems adequate, even if it is the cheap $20 FAPS chinese kit On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 04:16 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: Heh heh heh, turns out it's not the ethnic groups Clay thought were destroying the cars in the PnP's before he showed up, it's the Romanians. The ever pragmatic Romanians just use whatever tools they've got available at the moment, so it's all been a big misunderstanding. On 1/29/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Kaleb, maybe you can hire this guy to do the body work on the cars that follow you home! Click link in first post: http://500ecstasy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2823 Sure wish I could understand whatever language they're speaking. BTW- I believe MSRP on that Maybach is somewhere in the mid six figures. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles
Looks nice are these W124s any good?? Also can the clearcoat just be resprayed or do you have to redo the paint also. What is the going price for these?? All I've ever dealt with are W123s and a W126. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190-D-1989-M-BENZ-190-D-69-241-MILES-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6328QQitemZ4608916185QQrdZ1 Eric Crunched 85 300CD 89K __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
