Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Folks, looking at oil analysis is akin to the old barn door/stolen horse 
theory.  What matters in a filter is the size and capacity of what is 
taken out of the oil.  Usually, there is a micron spec, plus other 
characteristics.  Looking at the oil is a bit late!


I've had name brand (Fram) air filter many years ago that were advertised to 
fit a certain application, but turned out that they did not filter out dust 
and dirt like the OE brand.  In this case, if Rusty has the confidence that 
these el cheapo copies will function just as well as OE filters, then they 
are probably OK.


That said, personally I think I'll keep using the OE filters until we get 
more experience with brand x.  As we've heard many times, oil (and 
filters) are much less expensive than metal (engines).


Werner
'83SD 210k
'90D 221k

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I also do not know how he could guarantee these filters. What exactly
would that mean? For example, if you run into problems with your old motor
with 300K plus miles on it, how are you going to prove it was the fault of
the filter? You can talk oil analysis all you want but I would not think 
it
fair to pursue the vendor of the oil filter that you chose and installed. 
If

you don't like the idea, then do not use the new filter. However, we are
seeing more and more things come out of the far east that are a good or
better than many of the products that we used to produce in the west. It 
was

not always like that but it is becoming more so on a daily basis.

Any engineers on here with the facilities to do some testing? It would be
interesting to know if there is any difference in the oil based upon the
brand of filter being used. I have not been around here long enough to 
know

if y'all have been through this in depth but I know there has been
considerable discussion and some reasonable data on other forums relating 
to

various oil filter manufacturors.

I am sort of a believer that if I change the oil often enough, it likely 
is
not going to be a huge issue what brand of filter I use. I ran a 77 Ford 
and
then an 86 Ford over a hundred thousand with minimal wear using basic 
house

brand filters and oil. I changed both at 3000 mile intervals and never had
any issues (apart from headgaskets which is how I ended up having a look 
at

the cylinders etc.). If you plan to run expensive synthetic lubricants and
want to extend your change interval then you should either pay for a 
premium

filter (and hope you get what you pay for) or possibly, change the filter
mid cycle.

My 2 cents. Your mileage may vary etc.

Randy B





Re: [MBZ] Power steering fluid change

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Scordato
Don, I do not know about the 1990 SEL but recently changed mine out in my 
1979 240D.  I went to Wal-Mart and bought the cheapest ATF ($1.50 a quart) 
and used about two quarts to flush it out.


Drained it, put in the cheap stuff ran it a few minutes, drained and 
repeated until the new stuff in the reservoir was same color as the new 
stuff out of the ATF bottle.  I then drained one more time and put in Mobil 
1 ATF, ($7.00 a quart) took about a quart.  Replace the filter and away you 
go.  Now I need to do my 300D as it has been almost 80K since last replaced 
it with Mobil 1 ATF.


Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA
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Subject: [MBZ] Power steering fluid change



I just ordered two liters of Power Steering Fluid and a filter from
Rusty.  My power steering fluid is BROWN (like oil). Who knows how long
it has been in there.  I hope that is enough fluid to change it out.



Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 123k

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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
They dont happen to have mann or whatever stamped on them do they? 
There is a brand of oil filter called OE+ that is actually Mann when you 
open the box.


Rusty Cullens wrote:

We have found a really nice looking oil filter made in Thailand for the
OM616, OM617  M110, M116, M117 engines. The brand name is Full. Tom and
I have cut them open and they look identical to the Mann, Hengst 
Knecht filters that we have cut open before. The prices are simply
amazing. Here are the prices:
 
Diesel Oil Filter

1 to 9 $4.95
10 to 19 $4.25
20 or more $3.95
 
M110  V-8 Oil Filter

1 to 9 $3.00
10 to 19 $2.65
20 or more $2.45
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 guide rods

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Tuesday, January 31, 2006, at 04:43 PM, Allan Streib wrote:




Anyone know of a writeup on guide rod replacement (hope I have the
right term.  I'm refering to the rod that extends from the lower
firewall area to somewhere near the lower front shock absorber
mount)



	It will be in section 33 of 123 manual. They call it a brake support 
aka track rod. Pretty straight forward. It would be a good idea to 
count the turns when removing the tube from the support and put it back 
the same way. Get a bushing kit for the front and a 
support/bearing/mount whatever you want to call it. You'll have to 
rassle the control arm around to get the bolts back in. Removing the 
springs may facilitate this. Plan on getting an alignment too. How's 
the rest of your front end?


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
I am old enough to remember when we all laughed at the Japanese imports --
pieces of junk. Those pieces of junk are now called Lexus.

On 1/31/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's all about quality control, does some factory in Taiwan have the same
 quality control systems in place as a genuine supplier to DC? I don't
 think
 so and if you end up with the one in a 1000 filter that is faulty you are
 going to be might annoyed.
 Also judging a product by just looking at it is not a good way of testing
 quality. Then again if people are willing to take the risk let them. I am
 just surprised that Rusty is even thinking about selling mayfit parts from
 the cheapcopy factory.
 I recently bought some clear turn signal assemblies for my 123 off ebay
 and
 they are cheap copies to say the least but there is a difference between
 turn signal assemblies and filters.

 Hendrik

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  Hendrik asked the tough question:
 
  Question is, are you willing to risk your reputation with these cheap
  filters. Just because they look similar does not mean that the quality
 is
  the same. Personally I pay a little extra to get genuine filters.
  Also are you willing to guarantee these filters?
 
 
  I don't believe Rusty can be duped
  He does this for a living. He's not going to fling out a piece of crap
 out
  there for us.
  He certainly can make more money selling us the filters we're used to
  buying. Why would he risk invoking our collective ire?
 
  Bob Rentfro
  '77 300D 148K (waiting on some of Rusty's good parts)
  '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
  Litchfield Park, AZ
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Power steering fluid change

2006-02-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Thats odd considering the dude supposedly did all this work to the car.

Donald Snook wrote:


I just ordered two liters of Power Steering Fluid and a filter from
Rusty.  My power steering fluid is BROWN (like oil). Who knows how long
it has been in there.  I hope that is enough fluid to change it out. 

 


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
and what makes you so sure your OE filter is not really made in china or 
taiwan.  Good chance it is.


Hendrik Riessen wrote:

It's all about quality control, does some factory in Taiwan have the same 
quality control systems in place as a genuine supplier to DC? I don't think 
so and if you end up with the one in a 1000 filter that is faulty you are 
going to be might annoyed.
Also judging a product by just looking at it is not a good way of testing 
quality. Then again if people are willing to take the risk let them. I am 
just surprised that Rusty is even thinking about selling mayfit parts from 
the cheapcopy factory.
I recently bought some clear turn signal assemblies for my 123 off ebay and 
they are cheap copies to say the least but there is a difference between 
turn signal assemblies and filters.


Hendrik

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Hendrik asked the tough question:

Question is, are you willing to risk your reputation with these cheap
filters. Just because they look similar does not mean that the quality is
the same. Personally I pay a little extra to get genuine filters.
Also are you willing to guarantee these filters?


I don't believe Rusty can be duped
He does this for a living. He's not going to fling out a piece of crap out
there for us.
He certainly can make more money selling us the filters we're used to
buying. Why would he risk invoking our collective ire?

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 148K (waiting on some of Rusty's good parts)
'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
Litchfield Park, AZ



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Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread Rich Thomas
I'm running vegoil, how well do these filters clean that stuff out in my 
engine?


--R

R A Bennell wrote:


I also do not know how he could guarantee these filters. What exactly
would that mean? For example, if you run into problems with your old motor
with 300K plus miles on it, how are you going to prove it was the fault of
the filter? You can talk oil analysis all you want but I would not think it
fair to pursue the vendor of the oil filter that you chose and installed. If
you don't like the idea, then do not use the new filter. However, we are
seeing more and more things come out of the far east that are a good or
better than many of the products that we used to produce in the west. It was
not always like that but it is becoming more so on a daily basis.

Any engineers on here with the facilities to do some testing? It would be
interesting to know if there is any difference in the oil based upon the
brand of filter being used. I have not been around here long enough to know
if y'all have been through this in depth but I know there has been
considerable discussion and some reasonable data on other forums relating to
various oil filter manufacturors.

I am sort of a believer that if I change the oil often enough, it likely is
not going to be a huge issue what brand of filter I use. I ran a 77 Ford and
then an 86 Ford over a hundred thousand with minimal wear using basic house
brand filters and oil. I changed both at 3000 mile intervals and never had
any issues (apart from headgaskets which is how I ended up having a look at
the cylinders etc.). If you plan to run expensive synthetic lubricants and
want to extend your change interval then you should either pay for a premium
filter (and hope you get what you pay for) or possibly, change the filter
mid cycle.

My 2 cents. Your mileage may vary etc.

Randy B

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Hendrik asked the tough question:

Question is, are you willing to risk your reputation with these cheap
filters. Just because they look similar does not mean that the quality is
the same. Personally I pay a little extra to get genuine filters.
Also are you willing to guarantee these filters?


I don't believe Rusty can be duped
He does this for a living. He's not going to fling out a piece of crap out
there for us.
He certainly can make more money selling us the filters we're used to
buying. Why would he risk invoking our collective ire?

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 148K (waiting on some of Rusty's good parts)
'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
Litchfield Park, AZ



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Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread Hendrik Riessen
It does not matter where it is made, what matters is that DC is willing to 
put their logo on it and I would hope, if it proves to be faulty, pay to 
remedy any damage done by a faulty oil filter.

Wasn't it Gottlieb who said: The best or nothing?
I seem to remember that DC is building a factory in China, will they be 
building cheap and unreliable cars there?
Anyway people will buy cheap oil filters and cheap oil because they don't 
plan on keeping the car that long and when it does wear out prematurely it 
will be someone elses problem. Of course when you go to buy it off them they 
will tell you great stories about how they lovingly serviced the vehicle 
with nothing but the best. For examples of these stories please take a look 
at ebay:-)


Hendrik

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and what makes you so sure your OE filter is not really made in china or
taiwan.  Good chance it is.





Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread OK Don
So, now the junk costs more, and has more features - they still won't
go 400,000. The eninges might, but everything else falls apart.

On 1/31/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am old enough to remember when we all laughed at the Japanese imports --
 pieces of junk. Those pieces of junk are now called Lexus.



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Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
Oh, I don't know. My Toyota Camry was a sweet ride until the timing belt let
loose and ... uh, never mind.

On 2/1/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, now the junk costs more, and has more features - they still won't
 go 400,000. The eninges might, but everything else falls apart.

 On 1/31/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am old enough to remember when we all laughed at the Japanese
 imports --
  pieces of junk. Those pieces of junk are now called Lexus.
 


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Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Yeah the Japanese have come a long way since the early days of the corolla 
but seriously would you trust a little tin box with your life?
The problem with Lexus is that it does not have the brand recognition factor 
of a Mercedes. It's all about perception.


Hendrik

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I am old enough to remember when we all laughed at the Japanese 
imports --

pieces of junk. Those pieces of junk are now called Lexus.





Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
I traded an Acura Integra for my 240D. As much as I love my diesel, it is a
toss-up as to which I'd rather take on an eight hour drive.

On 2/1/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah the Japanese have come a long way since the early days of the corolla
 but seriously would you trust a little tin box with your life?
 The problem with Lexus is that it does not have the brand recognition
 factor
 of a Mercedes. It's all about perception.

 Hendrik

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 I am old enough to remember when we all laughed at the Japanese
 imports --
  pieces of junk. Those pieces of junk are now called Lexus.
 

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[MBZ] Booger Holler OT

2006-02-01 Thread redghost

Luther,

You are from that neck of the woods.  A shipmate wants to know if the 
Booger Holler Ham folks are still smoking hams and if so, will they 
ship out west?  Would you be near that area and know this?



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[MBZ] DC China, was Re: More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread Rick Knoble
I seem to remember that DC is building a factory in China, will they be 
building cheap and unreliable cars there?


Why not? They build the ML's over here.
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD




Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread John Ervine

LT Don wrote:


My Toyota Camry was a sweet ride until the timing belt let loose and ... uh, 
never mind.


Mr. Valve and Mr. Piston met and shook hands?

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Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread Ed Booher
On 1/31/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah the Japanese have come a long way since the early days of the corolla
 but seriously would you trust a little tin box with your life?
 The problem with Lexus is that it does not have the brand recognition factor
 of a Mercedes. It's all about perception.

 Hendrik

This is actually an interesting statement, and one I feel compelled to
blindly answer upon.  What I'm about to say is heresay from an expat
that has been around the world through Uncle Sam's dollar.

What he has said is that each country not only has different auto
specs, but different legal abilities. American, for example, you have
the legal ability to sue the manufacturer of the vehicle in the event
of a catastrophic event. Ala the SUV flip over, the Ford/Firestone
tire issue, etc. So American automakers tend to make their vehicles
well enough to protect occupants to deflect some of this ability to
file suit. It has to be a problem with a whole line, not just a single
car.

In Japan, the only person that has the legal ability to file suit
against a manufacturer in the event of a catastrophic event is the
driver of the vehicle. Not the family. This is an important
distinction. The whole statement that a Japanese vehicle is a little
tin box that you would not trust with your life is an engineering
decision. No driver, no suit.

Germany, on the other hand, grants the legal ability to not only file
suit against the company that manufacturers the vehicle, but the lead
design engineer as well. Hence all the old German vehicles that are
still on the road. Slightly rusty and a bit beat, but still mostly
intact and road worthy.

Please accept this all with a few grains of salt, as I have never
tried to verify or deny any of what was told to me. However, a little
applied logic added to the tale helps to clear a bit of fog, at least
to me.

Yet, I own three Japanese vehicles. Hope an MB is in my future.

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[MBZ] holy crap

2006-02-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-E-430-Mercedes-Parts-car_W0QQitemZ8034629399QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Re: [MBZ] holy crap

2006-02-01 Thread John Ervine

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-E-430-Mercedes-Parts-car_W0QQitemZ8034629399QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


A little rubbing compound and that'll buff right out.

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[MBZ] early Moosiness not Friday

2006-02-01 Thread redghost

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1211001.ece

Global warming has Moose surfing

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Re: [MBZ] holy crap

2006-02-01 Thread Jim Cathey
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-E-430-Mercedes-Parts- 
car_W0QQitemZ8034629399QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Bid high, no doubt this car had its oil and other fluids
lovingly changed out at the dealership on schedule.
Etc.

No doubt was a gasser, I very rarely see torched diesels
in the boneyard.

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Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread Jim Cathey

design engineer as well. Hence all the old German vehicles that are
still on the road. Slightly rusty and a bit beat, but still mostly
intact and road worthy.


Not, you might note, in Germany!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] holy crap

2006-02-01 Thread Sunil Hari
what happened to this car?

On 1/31/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-E-430-Mercedes-Parts-
  car_W0QQitemZ8034629399QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 Bid high, no doubt this car had its oil and other fluids
 lovingly changed out at the dealership on schedule.
 Etc.

 No doubt was a gasser, I very rarely see torched diesels
 in the boneyard.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
They got up close and personal, made sweet music together, and gave birth to
... well, to a car for which I was given an amazing trade value (book)
toward a new Voyager.

On 2/1/06, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 LT Don wrote:

  My Toyota Camry was a sweet ride until the timing belt let loose and ...
 uh, never mind.

 Mr. Valve and Mr. Piston met and shook hands?

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Re: [MBZ] my latest plunder

2006-02-01 Thread Ed Booher
On 1/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 you figured it out, Im trying to get 1 car for each list memember.

Really? Let me know when you get a decent 108 on the cheap then. :)

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Re: [MBZ] holy crap

2006-02-01 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Looks like the engine caught on fire. The car looks to be reasonably intact 
so I do not think it was due to a serious accident, maybe it happened in a 
drive by shooting judging by the low rider rear end (unless this car had 
height adjustable suspension).
Maybe the cheap aftermarket oil filter caught on fire (sorry couldn't resist 
that one).
I suppose it would be useful to park in the garage to impress the 
neighbours:-) just got to make sure to park nose in.


Hendrik

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what happened to this car?

On 1/31/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-E-430-Mercedes-Parts-
 car_W0QQitemZ8034629399QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bid high, no doubt this car had its oil and other fluids
lovingly changed out at the dealership on schedule.
Etc.

No doubt was a gasser, I very rarely see torched diesels
in the boneyard.

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[MBZ] 560 SEL

2006-02-01 Thread Russ Williams
Stopped by my Indy today to drop off some computer parts I had that he 
needed.

While talking to him the Shop owner walked up and asked if I knew of any one
who was looking for a MB 560 SEL.
This is his car it's a  '88 560 SEL White Exterior  Red Interior if any 
body is interested

he can be reached by email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  or phone 225-295-0744
ask for Wedge for all the details.
He hasn't advertised it as of yet. Going to give the List Members first 
shot at it.


Russ W.



Re: [MBZ] backwoods MD rodbender SDL

2006-02-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
 I sent a question about if it used oil, will see what he says. Maybe he
 will post that one too.

Questions to sellers don't go on the auction page when asked, but if
the seller uses the eBay form to answer them, they become part of
the listing. If derogatory questions post to the auction, it probably
means the seller doesn't have much eBay experience.



Re: [MBZ] DC China, was Re: More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Rick Knoble wrote:
 
  I seem to remember that DC is building a factory in China, will they be
  building cheap and unreliable cars there?
 
 Why not? They build the ML's over here.

MLs aren't cheap.



Re: [MBZ] backwoods MD rodbender SDL

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
Hopefully he is a fast student of the taskmaster of ignorance.

On 2/1/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
  I sent a question about if it used oil, will see what he says. Maybe he
  will post that one too.

 Questions to sellers don't go on the auction page when asked, but if
 the seller uses the eBay form to answer them, they become part of
 the listing. If derogatory questions post to the auction, it probably
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Re: [MBZ] backwoods MD rodbender SDL

2006-02-01 Thread Desert Rat
Close about posting Q and A on the Listing but not quite right.

When the Lister answers a question through Ebay, he/she has the option
to check boxes whether or not the Q and A will go on the listing page.
Sounds like the Lister checked the wrong box!

On 1/31/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hopefully he is a fast student of the taskmaster of ignorance.

 On 2/1/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
  
   I sent a question about if it used oil, will see what he says. Maybe he
   will post that one too.
 
  Questions to sellers don't go on the auction page when asked, but if
  the seller uses the eBay form to answer them, they become part of
  the listing. If derogatory questions post to the auction, it probably
  means the seller doesn't have much eBay experience.
 
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Re: [MBZ] MI SEL needs Timing Chain

2006-02-01 Thread Ed Booher
I'm guessing that when the timing chain blew that the engine also
probably blew right along with it? So now instead of a $300 chain
and cover we are needing more like a $2000 engine? That's why this car
is so under priced?

On 1/30/06, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/129741619.html

 No affiliation, ect.
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Re: [MBZ] holy crap

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Tuesday, January 31, 2006, at 09:58 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote:

Looks like the engine caught on fire. The car looks to be reasonably 
intact


Look at the thumbnails, that baby was wrecked big-time.

Johnny B.
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[MBZ] Diesel boats

2006-02-01 Thread OK Don
New use (OK - so it's old, I just found it) for that spare Diesel engine ---

http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jag?entry=improbable_engineering


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel aircraft engines

2006-02-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Richard Murdoch wrote:
 I wonder how much re-engineering they would have to do to use the Mercedes
 CDI for aviation purposes?

I saw a blurb about a VW TDI re-engineered for use as an aviation
engine, for the European market, once.  It had a reduction gear, as is
common practice when using an auto engine in an airplane.  (Otherwise
the engine never gets to run fast enough to reach its torque peak.)  I
don't know how they handled the fuel injection computer.  For
certification in the U.S., I think it would need backup power at least,
and maybe dual redundant computers.  The target fuel was Jet A, since
it's readily available at airports, cheaper than avgas, and has good low
temperature characteristics.  It was being pitched as an ideal engine
for glider tugs, because of the low fuel burn and because the water
cooled design meant no concerns about shock cooling -- always a problem
with tugs, since they make a long climb, then immediately descend.



Re: [MBZ] W123 guide rods

2006-02-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Not much to it, take off the old one and put the new one back on.  You 
might have to jiggle some stuff a little bit but there is no significant 
load on it when the car is jacked up.  Are you really needing the rod or 
the ball joint thingy on the firewall (this is what wears out)?


--R

Allan Streib wrote:


Sorry the original message had a munged From: header, if anyone tries
a direct reply this one should be correct.

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Allan Streib wrote:

 


Anyone know of a writeup on guide rod replacement (hope I have the
right term.  I'm refering to the rod that extends from the lower
firewall area to somewhere near the lower front shock absorber
mount)

I looked at the skinnerbox site and did not see this described.  Is
it a DIY job?

Thanks

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles

2006-02-01 Thread David Brodbeck
James Jetton wrote:
 Did you notice the paint on the hood?  Good example of why the hood pad is so 
 important, the heat from the turbo has really done a number on it.

My '83 300D Turbo hasn't had a hood pad in years.  The paint is oxidized
but doesn't have any heat damage.  In the cool, rainy weather we're
currently having here in Seattle, rain will steam off the hood if I'm in
stop and go traffic for a while, though.

If the turbo got hot enough to cook paint off an unprotected hood, no
one's air cleaner would have any paint left! :)



Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Hendrik Riessen wrote:
 It does not matter where it is made, what matters is that DC is willing to 
 put their logo on it and I would hope, if it proves to be faulty, pay to 
 remedy any damage done by a faulty oil filter.

Are you getting yours at the dealer?  The OEM filters I've been buying
don't have the three-pointed star on them.  They just say MANN.



Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Yes I do, complete with new washers and a holographic seal on the box. The 
filter for the 102 motors is barely adequate and was revised round about 
1985. I can't recall right now if they have the star on the actual filter 
but they have a part number on them.


Hendrik

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Hendrik Riessen wrote:
It does not matter where it is made, what matters is that DC is willing 
to

put their logo on it and I would hope, if it proves to be faulty, pay to
remedy any damage done by a faulty oil filter.


Are you getting yours at the dealer?  The OEM filters I've been buying
don't have the three-pointed star on them.  They just say MANN.

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Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread David Brodbeck

Hendrik Riessen wrote:

Yes I do, complete with new washers and a holographic seal on the box.


I get new washers with mine, and a new O-ring for the filter cover, but 
no fancy hologram.  I'm not sure the car knows the difference, though.  
I may buy a couple of the new cheapo filters just to see what they're 
like, instead of the MANNs I've been running.  I put 20,000 miles on the 
car in the last six months, so I'm going through a lot of filters.


I suppose filter quality might be a bigger concern if you're running 
Mobil 1 with extended drain intervals.  I'm still using dino oil, 
because it's obvious the engine is going to outlast the rest of the car, 
which is a rustbucket.  If it were a showroom-nice collector's item I'd 
probably be more of a purist.




[MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Scordato
Does anyone know if the EPC is available on line  I have been through 
three computers, and three years, two versions, two copies of the same 
version (Aug 2002) all of Daves instructions for moving files once loaded 
and still cannot get the thing to work.  For me not having this is like well 
fighting with one hand behind my back.


I know the MB tech manuals are on line.  Was wondering if the EPC was too. 
Any thoughts please.  I am getting pretty desperate.


Regards Tom Scordato 






[MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Scordato
Traveling on I-83 on my way to DC on business from Bellefonte PA.  Place in 
Harrisburg where you have to off ramp on I -83 to get back on I-83.  Ramp 
and up take to ramp are on a curve.  Well Traffic was stopped on the ramp. 
I saw this in time and slowed down and left my usual three car lengths.  As 
I slowed to a stop I looked in my rearview.  Here comes a full size semi 
doing what I estimate is at least 50-55 mph or better coming right at me and 
closing very, very fast.  So fast that I figured not only would I be dead 
(pulverized from the rear) but my car would be pool balled into the car 
stopped ahead of me.  No steel beauty 123 chassis was going to save me from 
this. No way instant death.  At the last nano second, I had about 6 feet of 
break down lane on my right and that three-car length space ahead of me I 
gunned it and moved into the break down lane.  He or she by some act of God 
made a swerve steering maneuver to his left, which made his load do a little 
dance, but missed me by 2 to 6 inches.  He keeps going in the left lane, 
which took you to some state road.  Like I said I would have been pulverized 
or vaporized instantaneously.  Few cars ahead would / could have been wasted 
too.




If it was a car that hit me it might have been survivable. The guy is 
driving a 100,000 lb (?) rig and flat out was not paying attention. That is 
the difference (the shear physics), which can never be overlooked.  An 
industry which should have the same safety standards as lets say the 
aerospace industry or maritime industry, is certainly lacking, big time, yet 
on a day by day basis affects as many if not more people.  It is truly out 
of control.  In my million plus miles of traveling this was the closest I 
have come to getting wasted.  Thanks Guardian Angel my dear!







Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem

2006-02-01 Thread l02turner

Thanks Loren,
I bought replacement belts from the dealer and they were all Continental --  
I needed to get the car back on the road the next day - I'm sure I would've 
saved $'s if I'd ordered from Rusty!   The total cost for all 3 belts from 
our local stealership was $67.


One more thing - the AC belt is mandatory to be a Conti - I had a FLAPS AC 
belt and the compressor would not turn properly at idle.  It would lock* 
rthymically - every 3-4 seconds - until the belt was glazed and began to 
slip even more.


* - not sure how else to explain it - every few rpm the compressor would 
stop turning momentarily (1-2 seconds) then start turning again - this 
repeated over and over until I increased the rpm or drove away.  I sometimes 
would turn the AC off when stopped at a light.


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem



I have had the best longevity with Continental belts.  You can get them
from Rusty  US made belts are of all forms of quality, and it is not
usually obvious which are good and which are not.  There some very good
ones out there but Conti belts are consistent.

At 08:07 AM 1/30/2006, you wrote:
Had a strange problem with my 78 240D last Thursday - was on the 
Interstate
doing 70 or so when I heard a bump and noticed the dash lights on and 
water
temp rising - knew a belt was gone so I switched off and coasted to a 
stop.


The AC belt was off its pulleys and laying on the engine bay - the 
alt/water
pump/ crank belt was no where to be seen.  I saw it a 1/4 mile down the 
road
in 2 pieces!  Anyway - couldn;t get the PS belt loose to remove so I cut 
it

and got my spare belt from the trunk - didn;t have proper wrnech to adjust
the alternator so the belt would fit so I managed to pry it on over the 
main

pulley - it was a little loose but it got us home.

All new belts (the old ones were only about 5 years/30,000 miles old) and
now all is well - but it has emphasized the need to do a detailed check of
the belts more often than I did.  I usually check things over about once a
month but since becoming disabled and no longer driving to work the 240D 
was

being used less  less  I obviously wasn;t checking things often enough.

  It always starts instantly (without block heater) in weather to the
teens - but it seems quieter now that it has new belts.  Anyway - take a 
few

minutes to examine your belts - it ain;t NO fun to work on the side of the
road!  I feel *very* fortunate to have been able to wrestle the belt back
over the pulleys so we could get home without a tow.  I've also updated my
tool kit to include wrenches needed to loosen  retighten the alternator. 
I

can easily get along with out AC and PS - but we ain;t going NO where
without the water pump.  Oh yeah, I'm glad I had a razor to cut the PS
belt - made life easier -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D - 287k)

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem

2006-02-01 Thread l02turner

Hi John,
Yeah, I've been disabled for about 10 years (time flies when you;re having 
fun).  I was being diagnosed when I was rebuilding the 240D engine in '95 - 
I have a nerve disease similar to MS - except where MS attacks nerves in the 
spine, what I have attacks them in the peripheral nerves.  There are 3 or 4 
similar diseases which attack these nerves and sometimes they cause loss of 
strength and/or pain.  My only problem is pain - intense burning sometimes 
with sharp stabbing pain -  like a RR spike being pushed thru my instep  or 
the same toe being broken over and over again - sometimes coming every 2-5 
seconds for a few minutes or a few days at a time.  Sleep was a real problem 
at times.  Which adds to the stress and seems to increase the pain level.


Unfortunately nerve pain is very difficult to manage.  Too much meds and I 
go to sleep - not a good way to spend life - too little and it;s a waste of 
time.  I see an anestheologist regularly and was implanted with a pump that 
initially contained morphine which was dripped into my spine thru a catheter 
from the pump.  The morphine was changed to Dilaudid with epinephrine - it's 
5x's more concentrated than morphine so I have to get the pump refilled 
every 5 months instead of monthly.  A needle is inserted and the old med 
withdrawn then fresh inserted.  Finding the port with the needle was very 
difficult for the doctor to find sometimes - scar tissue builds up over 
time - plus, the pump is canted slightly and the needle must enter 
precisely.  One time they tried 7 times before finding it!   Not much fun.


I have good days and bad - probably 3-4 good days/week now on average - so 
sleep is problematic making work difficult (the pain is also a factor). ;-) 
Also, along with the pump meds I take percocet and a seizure med which has 
proven somewhat effective.  But sometimes *nothing* works and I have extreme 
pain for 3 or 4 days straight.  Its been hard on my wife - hearing me scream 
every few seconds/minutes for long periods while being unable to do anything 
is very frustrating for her (and me) ;-)


But it could always be worse!!  Lots of people have problems I cannot 
imagine - so I'm thankful for that.


Sorry to go into so much detail - but it's hard to explain briefly as most 
people have never heard of chronic ideopathic demylinating 
polyneuropathy - CIDP for short - I know I'd never heard of it before - and 
while the initial diagnosis was going on I kept thinking they'd find out 
what I had and give me a pill to cure me.  It was a shock to find I have 
something without a cure.  I went to MCV, Johns Hopkins and wrote to the 
Mayo Clinic who declined to see me - maybe if I;d been a sheik of Arabia 
they would've tried - and stayed with my local neurologist for treatment.


Anyway - sorry again for being long-winded - thanks for the interest - I am 
greatful for all those I've met on the internet and who have become 
friends - my wife always frowns when I say I have made friends with 
someone I only know thru email - but I have come to know some very well over 
the past years -


Tell me John, how did you come to have a email name of rat-tail-baby?  Seems 
like there might be a story there?  ;-)  Take care -


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)

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From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem




On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 09:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I usually check things over about once a
month but since becoming disabled and no longer driving to work the
240D was
being used less  less  I obviously wasn;t checking things often
enough.



Disabled Larry? I was gone for a long time what happened? I hope your
mending well.

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Re: [MBZ] Power steering fluid change

2006-02-01 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote:

 

Thats odd considering the dude supposedly did all this work to the
car.

 

I thought it was strange too.  But, I looked through the repair orders
from the dealer and there was nothing related to the power steering.
They (the dealership) flushed the break fluid 3 times in 27 months,
flushed coolant, transmission, etc.  The PO was doing everything at the
dealer and I guess the dealership was not selling this service.  Glad I
checked it. 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL



Re: [MBZ] Booger Holler OT

2006-02-01 Thread Luther Gulseth
Never heard of it.  All I know of locally is http://www.petitjeanmeats.com/ 

Luther

~
~Luther,
~
~You are from that neck of the woods.  A shipmate wants to know if the 
~Booger Holler Ham folks are still smoking hams and if so, will they 
~ship out west?  Would you be near that area and know this?
~
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'82 300CD (158,222 kmi)
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Re: [MBZ] holy crap

2006-02-01 Thread andrew strasfogel
He forgot to CHANGE HIS FUSES!

On 1/31/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Tuesday, January 31, 2006, at 09:58 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote:

  Looks like the engine caught on fire. The car looks to be reasonably
  intact

Look at the thumbnails, that baby was wrecked big-time.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 12:09 AM, David Brodbeck wrote:


If the turbo got hot enough to cook paint off an unprotected hood, no
one's air cleaner would have any paint left! :)



	The 201 turbo hood pad would have a heat shield on the right side, 
above the turbo. The car/engine being referred to is a 1989 normally 
aspirated.


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread Rusty Cullens
Let's just say that I have put them in all of my fleet, so time will
tell. Obviously, Full has the same warranty as all other filter
manufacturers. I have only been selling Mercedes parts and maintaining
my MB's for 31 years, so when I say they look very good, I understand
that my knowledge of the inside of an oil filter is somewhat limited. I
just wanted to offer these up as a real value, not get into another
filter argument. Some people might want them, some might not. I am going
to use them since I change my oil every 3,000 miles. Full is also
getting into the air filter market and I plan on using them as well. 

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Question is, are you willing to risk your reputation with these cheap 
filters. Just because they look similar does not mean that the quality
is 
the same. Personally I pay a little extra to get genuine filters.
Also are you willing to guarantee these filters?

Hendrik

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Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:34 AM
Subject: [MBZ] More cool specials


 We have found a really nice looking oil filter made in Thailand for
the
 OM616, OM617  M110, M116, M117 engines. The brand name is Full. Tom
and
 I have cut them open and they look identical to the Mann, Hengst 
 Knecht filters that we have cut open before. The prices are simply
 amazing. Here are the prices:

 Diesel Oil Filter
 1 to 9 $4.95
 10 to 19 $4.25
 20 or more $3.95

 M110  V-8 Oil Filter
 1 to 9 $3.00
 10 to 19 $2.65
 20 or more $2.45

 Rusty Cullens
 BuyMBparts, Inc.
 1-800-741-5252
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Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread Rusty Cullens
Exactly.

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Hendrik asked the tough question:

Question is, are you willing to risk your reputation with these cheap
 filters. Just because they look similar does not mean that the quality
is
 the same. Personally I pay a little extra to get genuine filters.
 Also are you willing to guarantee these filters?


I don't believe Rusty can be duped
He does this for a living. He's not going to fling out a piece of crap
out 
there for us.
He certainly can make more money selling us the filters we're used to 
buying. Why would he risk invoking our collective ire?

Bob Rentfro
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'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
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Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 04:29 AM, David Brodbeck wrote:


I put 20,000 miles on the
car in the last six months, so I'm going through a lot of filters.

I suppose filter quality might be a bigger concern if you're running
Mobil 1 with extended drain intervals.


	I use Mann and Hengst, 1 filter per oil change at 15,000- 22,000 
intervals. Running Amsoil or Mobil 1 full synthetic oil. This is the 
regimen I have adopted after extensive and repeated oil analysis.
	 I drive 2,000- 5,000 per month under normal circumstances. More when 
traveling for my work with FEMA or my numerous vacations.
	I have seen many different countries of origin stamped into these 
filters over the years. Same goes for very many parts bought from the 
dealer. Stuff is produced in India, Austria, Australia, Germany, France 
and many more places


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread tom savage

Tom Scordato wrote:

I know the MB tech manuals are on line.  Was wondering if the EPC was too. 


Sort of: http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb.asp

Tom
No working EPC for years



Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:11 AM, Tom Scordato wrote:

I know the MB tech manuals are on line.  Was wondering if the EPC was 
too.

Any thoughts please.  I am getting pretty desperate.

Regards Tom Scordato



	Why the desperation? Can't you let the folks you buy your parts from 
look up the items that you need, for you? You will have to speak to a 
parts person to make a purchase or choose from items on a web site any 
way.
	I have managed to survive all these years without one. I let the parts 
guys be the parts guys and I take it from there.D


Johnny B.
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[MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE (Tom Scordato)

2006-02-01 Thread Constantine N. Polites

Tom:

You mentioned that the MB tech manuals are on line.  Are you refering to 
the mb service which charges for access?


Constantine



Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE (Tom Scordato)

2006-02-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
There are sites that bascially have the CD's uploaded I guess.  Dont 
have any of them off the top of my head though.


Constantine N. Polites wrote:


Tom:

You mentioned that the MB tech manuals are on line.  Are you refering to 
the mb service which charges for access?


Constantine

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[MBZ] power brake bleeder

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
What's a good one to buy? I think the time has come to purchase one.

Performance Products catalog has a Power Bleeder in two flavors, $50 and
$65.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 guide rods

2006-02-01 Thread Allan Streib
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, John Berryman wrote:

   It will be in section 33 of 123 manual. They call it a brake
 support aka track rod. Pretty straight forward. It would be a good
 idea to count the turns when removing the tube from the support and
 put it back the same way. Get a bushing kit for the front and a
 support/bearing/mount whatever you want to call it. You'll have to
 rassle the control arm around to get the bolts back in. Removing the
 springs may facilitate this. Plan on getting an alignment too.

Thanks for the info

 How's the rest of your front end?

Squeaky and creaky, mostly on the passenger side.  Sound seems to
be coming from the rearward end of the track rod, but it's hard to
tell for sure.  Audible squeaking when bouncing the front of the car.
Shocks are recent, everything else is unknown.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] power brake bleeder

2006-02-01 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Don,

I've been using a SpeediBleed (www.speedibleed.com) for many  
years. Very satisfied...  But, price is up to $109 ...  I paid  
about $60 IIRC


It connects to a tire for pressure.

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
1980 300SD  ...  still the Queen
1986 190E 2.3 16V   the Princess

On Feb 1, 2006, at 8:41 AM, LT Don wrote:


What's a good one to buy? I think the time has come to purchase one.

Performance Products catalog has a Power Bleeder in two flavors,  
$50 and

$65.

--
 



Re: [MBZ] power brake bleeder

2006-02-01 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Don - there was a home brew one made from a $10 True Value hand pump 
sprayer, a Pep Boys master cylinder cap and some hoses - described a couple 
of years ago on these lists.  I made one and it works pretty well.  A nice 
feature is that as a small plastic sprayer, you don't expose a big amount of 
fluid to the atmosphere and you can see the quantity remaining - also easy 
to pressurize with just a few hand strokes.


Werner WB2BRB
'83 SD
'90D
JD 4100

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Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: [MBZ] power brake bleeder



What's a good one to buy? I think the time has come to purchase one.

Performance Products catalog has a Power Bleeder in two flavors, $50 and
$65.

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Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE (Tom Scordato)

2006-02-01 Thread Zeitgeist
http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html

On 2/1/06, Constantine N. Polites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tom:

 You mentioned that the MB tech manuals are on line.  Are you refering to
 the mb service which charges for access?

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)



Re: [MBZ] power brake bleeder

2006-02-01 Thread Loren Faeth
Do you have a mighty vac?  It has a pressure port.  I don't know about the 
metal ones, but the cheap plastic one comes with an assortment of fittings 
and i think it will perform this function.  ($30 range)


BTW, the Quantum does not have ABS, so a simple gravity drain, gravity 
flush, and gravity bleeding will work.


At 09:41 AM 2/1/2006, you wrote:

What's a good one to buy? I think the time has come to purchase one.

Performance Products catalog has a Power Bleeder in two flavors, $50 and
$65.

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Re: [MBZ] power brake bleeder

2006-02-01 Thread Rick Knoble

Don - there was a home brew one made from a $10 True Value hand pump
sprayer, a Pep Boys master cylinder cap and some hoses - described a 
couple

of years ago on these lists.  I made one and it works pretty well.


I believe this is the link to the instructions.
http://www.bmw-m.net/TechProc/bleeder.htm

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD 



[MBZ] Re Diesel boats

2006-02-01 Thread Steve Marci

Good points
No cutless bearing or packing  to leak,
easy prop inspection when you hit something, scuba divers, bathers, ducks, 
alligators, moose

clam digging or dredging is made easy with the shaft nearly vertical.

Bad points
troweling lines easily fouled
backing into the dock chops up bystanders when the prop is lifted up
Other than that it looks like a pretty good idea, or at least an OK idea :-D

Regards
Steve
85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K
79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild
94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K
82 TD project wagon
64 VW Bug
65 D15, AC tractor

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New use (OK - so it's old, I just found it) for that spare Diesel engine ---

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Re: [MBZ] power brake bleeder

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
Yea, I have a mighty vac sort of thing that a list members sent me. Don't
remember if it has a pressure port or not. ... I might use the bleeder
occasionally, but am really buying it as a present for Jeff for all of the
work he has done on the Quantum, not to mention hauling it home for me. He
mentioned last weekend that he doesn't have one and how nice it would be to
have one in his shop at Goodyear.

On 2/1/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do you have a mighty vac?  It has a pressure port.  I don't know about the
 metal ones, but the cheap plastic one comes with an assortment of fittings
 and i think it will perform this function.  ($30 range)

 BTW, the Quantum does not have ABS, so a simple gravity drain, gravity
 flush, and gravity bleeding will work.

 At 09:41 AM 2/1/2006, you wrote:
 What's a good one to buy? I think the time has come to purchase one.
 
 Performance Products catalog has a Power Bleeder in two flavors, $50 and
 $65.
 
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Re: [MBZ] power brake bleeder

2006-02-01 Thread Potter, Tom E
Here you go!

http://www.bmw-m.net/TechProc/bleeder.htm 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:02 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] power brake bleeder

Don - there was a home brew one made from a $10 True Value hand pump 
sprayer, a Pep Boys master cylinder cap and some hoses - described a
couple 
of years ago on these lists.  I made one and it works pretty well.  A
nice 
feature is that as a small plastic sprayer, you don't expose a big
amount of 
fluid to the atmosphere and you can see the quantity remaining - also
easy 
to pressurize with just a few hand strokes.

Werner WB2BRB
'83 SD
'90D
JD 4100

- Original Message - 
From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: [MBZ] power brake bleeder


 What's a good one to buy? I think the time has come to purchase one.

 Performance Products catalog has a Power Bleeder in two flavors, $50
and
 $65.

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 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle


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Re: [MBZ] power brake bleeder

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
Looks like my type of project.

On 2/1/06, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Don - there was a home brew one made from a $10 True Value hand pump
  sprayer, a Pep Boys master cylinder cap and some hoses - described a
  couple
  of years ago on these lists.  I made one and it works pretty well.

 I believe this is the link to the instructions.
 http://www.bmw-m.net/TechProc/bleeder.htm

 Rick Knoble
 '85 300 CD

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Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:34 AM, Tom Scordato wrote:


An
industry which should have the same safety standards as lets say the
aerospace industry or maritime industry, is certainly lacking, big 
time, yet

on a day by day basis affects as many if not more people.


	I guess you wouldn't mind paying a lot more for every thing you buy 
when trucks start costing more than a half million bucks. Note what 
fuel surcharges alone can do to the price of shipping.
	Maybe you should become a truck driver, it seems you might be more 
attentive than some already on the job. That's where the problem really 
exists, the human factor. Knowledge, skill, attitude, alertness and 
emotions all factor in and vary widely between individuals.



Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] More cool specials

2006-02-01 Thread R A Bennell
Correct me if I am wrong here, but recent stats would indicate that
purchasers are very happy with their new Hyundai (is that spelled
correctly?) cars but not so happy with the late model Mercedes. I don't
think it is all a matter of expectations either. The original Pony was a
piece of junk but the far east has learned fast and risen to the task at
hand. Europe and America have struggled to keep pace.

Randy B

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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:12 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] More cool specials


On 1/31/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah the Japanese have come a long way since the early days of the corolla
 but seriously would you trust a little tin box with your life?
 The problem with Lexus is that it does not have the brand recognition
factor
 of a Mercedes. It's all about perception.

 Hendrik

This is actually an interesting statement, and one I feel compelled to
blindly answer upon.  What I'm about to say is heresay from an expat
that has been around the world through Uncle Sam's dollar.

What he has said is that each country not only has different auto
specs, but different legal abilities. American, for example, you have
the legal ability to sue the manufacturer of the vehicle in the event
of a catastrophic event. Ala the SUV flip over, the Ford/Firestone
tire issue, etc. So American automakers tend to make their vehicles
well enough to protect occupants to deflect some of this ability to
file suit. It has to be a problem with a whole line, not just a single
car.

In Japan, the only person that has the legal ability to file suit
against a manufacturer in the event of a catastrophic event is the
driver of the vehicle. Not the family. This is an important
distinction. The whole statement that a Japanese vehicle is a little
tin box that you would not trust with your life is an engineering
decision. No driver, no suit.

Germany, on the other hand, grants the legal ability to not only file
suit against the company that manufacturers the vehicle, but the lead
design engineer as well. Hence all the old German vehicles that are
still on the road. Slightly rusty and a bit beat, but still mostly
intact and road worthy.

Please accept this all with a few grains of salt, as I have never
tried to verify or deny any of what was told to me. However, a little
applied logic added to the tale helps to clear a bit of fog, at least
to me.

Yet, I own three Japanese vehicles. Hope an MB is in my future.

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Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread R A Bennell
Recent article in our local paper says that the average age of truckers
these days is climbing. Young people are not interested in the job and there
is a shortage of drivers. Expect things to get worse before they get better.

Randy B

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Subject: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues


Traveling on I-83 on my way to DC on business from Bellefonte PA.  Place in
Harrisburg where you have to off ramp on I -83 to get back on I-83.  Ramp
and up take to ramp are on a curve.  Well Traffic was stopped on the ramp.
I saw this in time and slowed down and left my usual three car lengths.  As
I slowed to a stop I looked in my rearview.  Here comes a full size semi
doing what I estimate is at least 50-55 mph or better coming right at me and
closing very, very fast.  So fast that I figured not only would I be dead
(pulverized from the rear) but my car would be pool balled into the car
stopped ahead of me.  No steel beauty 123 chassis was going to save me from
this. No way instant death.  At the last nano second, I had about 6 feet of
break down lane on my right and that three-car length space ahead of me I
gunned it and moved into the break down lane.  He or she by some act of God
made a swerve steering maneuver to his left, which made his load do a little
dance, but missed me by 2 to 6 inches.  He keeps going in the left lane,
which took you to some state road.  Like I said I would have been pulverized
or vaporized instantaneously.  Few cars ahead would / could have been wasted
too.



If it was a car that hit me it might have been survivable. The guy is
driving a 100,000 lb (?) rig and flat out was not paying attention. That is
the difference (the shear physics), which can never be overlooked.  An
industry which should have the same safety standards as lets say the
aerospace industry or maritime industry, is certainly lacking, big time, yet
on a day by day basis affects as many if not more people.  It is truly out
of control.  In my million plus miles of traveling this was the closest I
have come to getting wasted.  Thanks Guardian Angel my dear!




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Re: [MBZ] power brake bleeder

2006-02-01 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
I have the Motive power bleeder  
http://www.fcpgroton.com/motiveproducts.htm , don't know how i ever 
lived without it. Works just like a commercial one except dont need to 
hook an air hose.
I thought about making the homebrew one, but by the time I figured up 
the price of the parts and the fuel to chase all over the place or 
shipping charges for said parts, it actually worked out cheaper just to 
buy the Motive bleeder


Robert

LT Don wrote:

What's a good one to buy? I think the time has come to purchase one.

Performance Products catalog has a Power Bleeder in two flavors, $50 and
$65.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 guide rods

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
That sounds like what I heard prior to replacing the ball joints on my 240D.


On 2/1/06, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, John Berryman wrote:

It will be in section 33 of 123 manual. They call it a brake
  support aka track rod. Pretty straight forward. It would be a good
  idea to count the turns when removing the tube from the support and
  put it back the same way. Get a bushing kit for the front and a
  support/bearing/mount whatever you want to call it. You'll have to
  rassle the control arm around to get the bolts back in. Removing the
  springs may facilitate this. Plan on getting an alignment too.

 Thanks for the info

  How's the rest of your front end?

 Squeaky and creaky, mostly on the passenger side.  Sound seems to
 be coming from the rearward end of the track rod, but it's hard to
 tell for sure.  Audible squeaking when bouncing the front of the car.
 Shocks are recent, everything else is unknown.

 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] power brake bleeder

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
That is the one in the Performance Products catalog. Actually, two of them
(cheap-o and Black Label).

On 2/1/06, Robert  Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have the Motive power bleeder
 http://www.fcpgroton.com/motiveproducts.htm , don't know how i ever
 lived without it. Works just like a commercial one except dont need to
 hook an air hose.
 I thought about making the homebrew one, but by the time I figured up
 the price of the parts and the fuel to chase all over the place or
 shipping charges for said parts, it actually worked out cheaper just to
 buy the Motive bleeder

 Robert

 LT Don wrote:
  What's a good one to buy? I think the time has come to purchase one.
 
  Performance Products catalog has a Power Bleeder in two flavors, $50 and
  $65.
 
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  1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
  1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles

2006-02-01 Thread Marshall Booth

John Berryman wrote:

On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 12:09 AM, David Brodbeck wrote:


If the turbo got hot enough to cook paint off an unprotected hood, no
one's air cleaner would have any paint left! :)



	The 201 turbo hood pad would have a heat shield on the right side, 
above the turbo. The car/engine being referred to is a 1989 normally 
aspirated.


My 190D 2.5t original hood pad DIDN'T have the silver heat shield (nor 
does the replacement) and there's NO evidence of hood or replacement pad 
damage even after 10-15 kmi of high speed highway driving (and a LOT 
more city driving).


My '87 300TD (turbo) doesn't have any heat shield on the original pad 
either (another year or two and the pad will need replacement - but NOT 
from turbo heat - just old age).


I'm pretty sure I have seen a few OM503.96 engines (maybe late '87 
production) with heat shields above the turbo, but certainly not ALL of 
them did - and one certainly wasn't needed in either of my OM60x.96 engines.


Marshall
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[MBZ] Thanks Rusty was Power Steering

2006-02-01 Thread Donald Snook
I got my power steering fluid and filter and filter already. WOW! That
is fast service.   Has anyone noticed that the Mercedes Fluid smells
like cat pee?   I opened the bottle to see what color it was and SHEESH
that stuff smells awful.  

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 



[MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread Roger Conlon




Message: 18
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 08:03:17 -0800
From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE (Tom
Scordato)
http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)



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Re: [MBZ] Thanks Rusty was Power Steering

2006-02-01 Thread Gary Hurst
hard to imagine anyone shopping anywhere else!

On 2/1/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I got my power steering fluid and filter and filter already. WOW! That
 is fast service.   Has anyone noticed that the Mercedes Fluid smells
 like cat pee?   I opened the bottle to see what color it was and SHEESH
 that stuff smells awful.



 Donald H. Snook

 1990 300SEL

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Re: [MBZ] Thanks Rusty was Power Steering

2006-02-01 Thread Rusty Cullens
Ain't it the truth!

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hard to imagine anyone shopping anywhere else!

On 2/1/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I got my power steering fluid and filter and filter already. WOW! That
 is fast service.   Has anyone noticed that the Mercedes Fluid smells
 like cat pee?   I opened the bottle to see what color it was and
SHEESH
 that stuff smells awful.



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Re: [MBZ] Thanks Rusty was Power Steering

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
A pioneer in imported parts business, Rusty Cullens has been selling
foreign car parts for over 25 years. Now he brings his legendary service,
outstanding pricing and Southern hospitality to retail buyers via the
internet.

??

On 2/1/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ain't it the truth!

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:33 PM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Thanks Rusty was Power Steering

 hard to imagine anyone shopping anywhere else!

 On 2/1/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I got my power steering fluid and filter and filter already. WOW! That
  is fast service.   Has anyone noticed that the Mercedes Fluid smells
  like cat pee?   I opened the bottle to see what color it was and
 SHEESH
  that stuff smells awful.
 
 
 
  Donald H. Snook
 
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Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Robert M Doran
I just had to say something here because, besides presently owning and
driving a 115 and a 107 (...and the old 123--gone but not forgotten), I
drive an 18-wheeler for a living most of the time and have done so for
over 30 years. 

Foremost in my mind when I am approaching any situation on the road is
the anticipation of what would be the most inappropriate (read: stupid)
thing that another driver could do and then plan what my reaction would
be to it. I doubt if any of you guys on the list would believe me if I
told you how often that's exactly what does happen. I'm not trying to say
that truck drivers are blameless--in fact I've seen some real boneheads
that should have not been allowed behind the wheel of any vehicle, let
alone a truck--but some of the things I've seen 4-wheeler drivers do
would simply blow you away! And I have to concede that it is probable
that the sheer numbers of 4-wheelers in comparison to the numbers of
trucks on the road blow what I've observed out of proportion somewhat.
But still...

In my years of operating these monsters my experiences have taught me to
be a defensive driver above all else and, even though I am confident
enough of my own driving abilities, I know that the beast I am herding
down the road is much more difficult to maneuver than is my 115, for
example, so I drive with that thought in mind and try to compensate in
advance for upcoming traffic situations. Unfortunately, many (most?)
4-wheeler drivers do not exhibit that concept and they drive as if these
trucks were as manageable as what they are driving and that's not the way
it is at all.  It appears from Tom Scordato's post that he was well aware
of a possible upcoming hazarous event and he acted appropriately. That
action may well have saved his life. If more people would similarly try
to be more aware and prepared, many injuries and lives lost might be
prevented. I don't know what the truck driver in question was doing when
he should have been paying attention, but he obviously was driving beyond
his capacity to control his vehicle. There could have been extenuating
circumstances, but he was obviously not in control and that's a bad
thing.
 
Just as in any group of people, there are those over-the-road drivers who
do their jobs efficiently and exhibit a high level of expertise--and
there are those at the other end of the scale as well. Unfortunately,
it's the ones at the lower end of the scale that often get the attention
and therefore cause some folks to generalize and form opinions based on
their (re: all Indians walk single file--at least the one that I saw
did) personal experiences which are often very limited in scope. It's
too bad but that's how it is.

Since I'm not aware of the safety standards of the aerospace or maritime
industries, I'm unable to make any informed comments, but I do know that
both the federal government as well as the individual states have the
Department of Transportation regulations which do much to enforce
compliance with safety standards.  The demise of the old Interstate
Commerce Commission left a little to be desired in as far as enforcement
of a multitude of confusing rules, but it was a step in the right
direction and all good things seem to take some time before they mature
to their fruition (is that even a word?). Unfortunately, it's not there
yet, but I have observed much progress (notice I didn't say
improvement-some of the new rules are absolutely assinine!) in this area
over the past 30 years. But they are working on it.

Anyway, I got that off my chest. I'm glad nobody was injured or
killed--that's the main thing--and one more of these amazing MBz's (with
a driver a cut above the average driver) continues to roll on it's way
and that's a good thing.
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[MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Scordato

Why the desperation? Can't you let the folks you buy your parts from
look up the items that you need, for you? You will have to speak to a
parts person to make a purchase or choose from items on a web site any
way.
I have managed to survive all these years without one. I let the parts
guys be the parts guys and I take it from there.D

John thanks for asking.  The answer is yes I could do those things you 
describe and have been bothering Rusty and others exactly as you describe. 
But in all honesty it is my little way of being able to compare parts on 
eBay, get parts from junk yards, between models ect.  Besides it gives me 
something to do.  Keeps me out of pool halls and such.


Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
1977 300D
1979 240D
- Original Message - 
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On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:11 AM, Tom Scordato wrote:


I know the MB tech manuals are on line.  Was wondering if the EPC was
too.
Any thoughts please.  I am getting pretty desperate.

Regards Tom Scordato



Why the desperation? Can't you let the folks you buy your parts from
look up the items that you need, for you? You will have to speak to a
parts person to make a purchase or choose from items on a web site any
way.
I have managed to survive all these years without one. I let the parts
guys be the parts guys and I take it from there.D

Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] MB Manuals ON LINE (Tom Scordato)

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Scordato

Constantine asked about manuals

http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html

Regards Tom Scordato
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Tom:

You mentioned that the MB tech manuals are on line.  Are you refering to 
the mb service which charges for access?


Constantine

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Re: [MBZ] MB Manuals ON LINE (Tom Scordato)

2006-02-01 Thread jjayj
when i go to the individual topics for the 603 engine, nothing opens...what's 
up with that?

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On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 10:41 AM, LT Don wrote:

 What's a good one to buy? I think the time has come to purchase one.

 Performance Products catalog has a Power Bleeder in two flavors, $50 
 and
 $65.


Doesn't you brother-in-law have one you can use once or twice a year?

If you have patience (and no ABS) the gravity method is free. In 
theory it is a pressure bleeder. Just works at a real low pressure.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


[MBZ] Carfax Please

2006-02-01 Thread Chase Kaufman
Hello everyone, could anyone with an active carfax account run the following 
VIN for me:

WDBCA45EXKA482414
Thanks in advance!

Chase M. K.





Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Luther Gulseth
I also am in the trucking industry, managing the maintenance and repair of over 
220 semi's, all from my computer and phone.  When I'm in my 4 wheeler(I also 
posess a CDL), I constantly see reasons why we should have regulations similar 
to those in the commercial traffic realm.  Many drivers/cars should be put out 
of service until the proper level of safety is attained.  All states should 
have mandatory yearly checks for POI(inusrance) and the safety condition of the 
automobile.  
I dislike gov't over-regulation, but this is an area that is severely 
under-regulated.

Luther

~
~I just had to say something here because, besides presently owning and
~driving a 115 and a 107 (...and the old 123--gone but not forgotten), I
~drive an 18-wheeler for a living most of the time and have done so for
~over 30 years. 
~



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'82 300CD (158,222 kmi)
'90 300E  '82 300D (parts or run?)



Re: [MBZ] W123 guide rods

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Allan Streib wrote:


Squeaky and creaky, mostly on the passenger side.  Sound seems to
be coming from the rearward end of the track rod, but it's hard to
tell for sure.  Audible squeaking when bouncing the front of the car.
Shocks are recent, everything else is unknown.

Allan
--


	Its most likely your lower ball joints creating all the racket.  
Probably time to look it over real good and take Rusty up on the 123 
front-end special.
	If the track rod mounts are shot so is the rest of the front 
suspension, unless all was changed. Steering linkage would be in the 
same condition as a rule.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] power brake bleeder

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 11:25 AM, LT Don wrote:

Yea, I have a mighty vac sort of thing that a list members sent me. 
Don't

remember if it has a pressure port or not. ... I might use the bleeder
occasionally, but am really buying it as a present for Jeff for all of 
the
work he has done on the Quantum, not to mention hauling it home for 
me. He
mentioned last weekend that he doesn't have one and how nice it would 
be to

have one in his shop at Goodyear.



That answers my question. Gotta take care of your mechanic.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 08:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Hi John,
Yeah, I've been disabled for about 10 years


I wasn't aware of that.

Unfortunately nerve pain is very difficult to manage.  Too much meds 
and I
go to sleep - not a good way to spend life - too little and it;s a 
waste of
time.  I see an anestheologist regularly and was implanted with a pump 
that
initially contained morphine which was dripped into my spine thru a 
catheter
from the pump.  The morphine was changed to Dilaudid with epinephrine 
- it's

5x's more concentrated than morphine


	I know about nerve pain, I've been dealing with it for a while too. 
Mine is caused by a disc in my cervical spine. I have been prescribed 
all these meds but without the pump.
	I refuse to take anything with acetaminophen and/or a billion adverse 
side effects . Morphine works the best with little to no side effects. 
Addiction and overdose can occur if your irresponsible but other than 
that nothing unless you have a kidney problem. Morphine will not 
metabolize if a certain type of kidney problem exists. The metabolites 
can hang out in the kidneys causing problems.
	My present Doc wrote me a prescription for Dilaudid 2mg and said its 
equal to 30 mg morphine. I don't think that's true, they just don't 
seem to work at that dosage.
	I really could use the 30 mg morphine but these doctors are so worried 
about there own ass getting in trouble that they are very conservative. 
I thought of asking for a referral to a pain management 
anesthesiologist. 	It was hell being out of town for almost 4 months as 
nothing can be done A) across state lines and B) without continuing 
care which means being stationary for 90 days. That just doesn't happen 
in my line of work. Lots of sleepless nights. luckily I came across a 
woman who just got a pump and gave me a handful of the morphine pills 
she can no longer take. Got me through a few weeks taking them only 
when things got unbearable.



Tell me John, how did you come to have a email name of rat-tail-baby?  
Seems

like there might be a story there?  ;-)  Take care -


	Ellwood J Rattail was our cat that was killed by coyotes. Its in his 
memory. I do have the remnants of a ponytail though.


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] power brake bleeder

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
Nope -- that is one thing that he does NOT have, either at his home garage
or at work.

On 2/1/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 10:41 AM, LT Don wrote:

  What's a good one to buy? I think the time has come to purchase one.
 
  Performance Products catalog has a Power Bleeder in two flavors, $50
  and
  $65.
 

 Doesn't you brother-in-law have one you can use once or twice a
 year?

 If you have patience (and no ABS) the gravity method is free. In
 theory it is a pressure bleeder. Just works at a real low pressure.

 Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Scordato

John Berryman said

I guess you wouldn't mind paying a lot more for every thing you buy
when trucks start costing more than a half million bucks. Note what
fuel surcharges alone can do to the price of shipping.
Maybe you should become a truck driver, it seems you might be more
attentive than some already on the job. That's where the problem really
exists, the human factor. Knowledge, skill, attitude, alertness and
emotions all factor in and vary widely between individuals.

John to answer your question no I would not mind paying more.  We are the 
most spoiled society on earth when it comes to that.
And Trucks do not need to cost a million bucks here are a few more thoughts 
that might work, heck maybe they are being tried allready.


A) pay truckers a decent salary  (may I suggest 75,000 to 100K ? a year plus 
benefits factor in inflation) to be away from their families, not piece meal 
$ for mile that is only asking for trouble.  This would include salary 
minimums for independents as well as company truckers
B) limit, monitors and track speeds with engine electronic and confirm of 
trucks via satellite or some other method.
C) brain and education, psycho test, similar to getting a merchant marine 
cost guard license, nuclear operators license or other licensed  positions 
renewable every five years.  These are to be real strict.  Try to weed out 
the chaff.
D) people and the industry can wait the extra three to five days (?)  the 
lower speed limits would entail, no one is going to melt because of it.  We 
survived when it took trains three weeks to deliver something.  Matter of 
fact we actually manufactured things back then stuff the whole world 
including us purchased.
E) weigh stations especially in the northeast (which are rarely open) would 
be required to be open allot more often (50%) of the time. Spot truck safety 
checks.
F) satellite tracking of speed and movement to determine and limit speed and 
number of hours truck operators are on the road

G) mandatory drug testing for uppers and downers
H) major bonuses for operators with a clean record who do not drive 
aggressively, reward safety.  Severely penalize truckers for accidents when 
they are at fault.  Like loose your commercial license, never drive 
commercially again just like if you screw up on a merchant ship, they rip 
your coast guard license up.
I) as an industry have a campain to educate the four wheelers to share in 
safety.


Make it a profession again instead of what one person told me it was prison 
for me or trucking.  Please do not compare trucks with cars by saying they 
should entail the same standards.  99% of the folks driving cars are not 
professionals.  Tuckers are supposed to be professionals, not cowboys. 
There is too much at stake.


Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA































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On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:34 AM, Tom Scordato wrote:


An
industry which should have the same safety standards as lets say the
aerospace industry or maritime industry, is certainly lacking, big
time, yet
on a day by day basis affects as many if not more people.


I guess you wouldn't mind paying a lot more for every thing you buy
when trucks start costing more than a half million bucks. Note what
fuel surcharges alone can do to the price of shipping.
Maybe you should become a truck driver, it seems you might be more
attentive than some already on the job. That's where the problem really
exists, the human factor. Knowledge, skill, attitude, alertness and
emotions all factor in and vary widely between individuals.


Johnny B.
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[MBZ] OT VB scripting

2006-02-01 Thread Luther Gulseth
I am working on a VB script here at work.  I'm trying to copy data in columns B 
 C where the data in column C is in a range from 2000-.  There is also 
data in column C that ranges from 4-56000 and others that contain Alpha 
characters.  Anyone have any ideas how to accomplish this?   TIA all.


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Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Scordato
Robert well written, thanks for your input, kind words and professionalism. 
I am sure the operator who almost hit me learned and important lesson 
yesterday too. / Tom Scordato
- Original Message - 
From: Robert M Doran [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues



I just had to say something here because, besides presently owning and
driving a 115 and a 107 (...and the old 123--gone but not forgotten), I
drive an 18-wheeler for a living most of the time and have done so for
over 30 years.

Foremost in my mind when I am approaching any situation on the road is
the anticipation of what would be the most inappropriate (read: stupid)
thing that another driver could do and then plan what my reaction would
be to it. I doubt if any of you guys on the list would believe me if I
told you how often that's exactly what does happen. I'm not trying to say
that truck drivers are blameless--in fact I've seen some real boneheads
that should have not been allowed behind the wheel of any vehicle, let
alone a truck--but some of the things I've seen 4-wheeler drivers do
would simply blow you away! And I have to concede that it is probable
that the sheer numbers of 4-wheelers in comparison to the numbers of
trucks on the road blow what I've observed out of proportion somewhat.
But still...

In my years of operating these monsters my experiences have taught me to
be a defensive driver above all else and, even though I am confident
enough of my own driving abilities, I know that the beast I am herding
down the road is much more difficult to maneuver than is my 115, for
example, so I drive with that thought in mind and try to compensate in
advance for upcoming traffic situations. Unfortunately, many (most?)
4-wheeler drivers do not exhibit that concept and they drive as if these
trucks were as manageable as what they are driving and that's not the way
it is at all.  It appears from Tom Scordato's post that he was well aware
of a possible upcoming hazarous event and he acted appropriately. That
action may well have saved his life. If more people would similarly try
to be more aware and prepared, many injuries and lives lost might be
prevented. I don't know what the truck driver in question was doing when
he should have been paying attention, but he obviously was driving beyond
his capacity to control his vehicle. There could have been extenuating
circumstances, but he was obviously not in control and that's a bad
thing.

Just as in any group of people, there are those over-the-road drivers who
do their jobs efficiently and exhibit a high level of expertise--and
there are those at the other end of the scale as well. Unfortunately,
it's the ones at the lower end of the scale that often get the attention
and therefore cause some folks to generalize and form opinions based on
their (re: all Indians walk single file--at least the one that I saw
did) personal experiences which are often very limited in scope. It's
too bad but that's how it is.

Since I'm not aware of the safety standards of the aerospace or maritime
industries, I'm unable to make any informed comments, but I do know that
both the federal government as well as the individual states have the
Department of Transportation regulations which do much to enforce
compliance with safety standards.  The demise of the old Interstate
Commerce Commission left a little to be desired in as far as enforcement
of a multitude of confusing rules, but it was a step in the right
direction and all good things seem to take some time before they mature
to their fruition (is that even a word?). Unfortunately, it's not there
yet, but I have observed much progress (notice I didn't say
improvement-some of the new rules are absolutely assinine!) in this area
over the past 30 years. But they are working on it.

Anyway, I got that off my chest. I'm glad nobody was injured or
killed--that's the main thing--and one more of these amazing MBz's (with
a driver a cut above the average driver) continues to roll on it's way
and that's a good thing.
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:


I'm pretty sure I have seen a few OM503.96 engines (maybe late '87
production) with heat shields above the turbo, but certainly not ALL of
them did - and one certainly wasn't needed in either of my OM60x.96 
engines.


Marshall



	I just ordered a replacement for mine (na) and asked about the turbo 
pad. The cost is like 4x more. From this mfr there is a heat shield. I 
was initially thinking I would get one because it would probably add to 
the life of the pad. With the cost considered, I ordered the one 
without the heat shield. I may affix a piece of heat shielding material 
my friend liberated from Grumman.
	What about under pans Marshall? Do any of your cars still have it? 
Ever see any aftermarket? I'd really like to have all the sound 
deadning stuff installed just to see how much quieter it will be. My 
2.5 is real quiet.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread LT Don
You mean like we do our folks in the military?  [Sorry, just could not
resist.]

On 2/1/06, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 A) pay truckers a decent salary  (may I suggest 75,000 to 100K ? a year
 plus
 benefits factor in inflation) to be away from their families




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1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

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Re: [MBZ] Thanks Rusty was Power Steering

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Donald Snook wrote:



I got my power steering fluid and filter and filter already. WOW! That
is fast service.   Has anyone noticed that the Mercedes Fluid smells
like cat pee?   I opened the bottle to see what color it was and SHEESH
that stuff smells awful.



Donald H. Snook



	That would be one good reason for me to continue using Amsoil 
Synthetic tranny fluid.


	Why do you choose PS fluid (that smells like cat piss or otherwise) 
over tranny fluid? I'm taking a survey so I may better serve my future 
Amsoil customers.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Thanks Rusty was Power Steering

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:


hard to imagine anyone shopping anywhere else!



Do you guys carry any other products that smell like cat piss?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues

2006-02-01 Thread Luther Gulseth
Our nation would be better off to double the salaries of our Teachers.  This 
would attract more teachers that can and leave the option open to fire those 
who cannot and not have to worry about no one wanting to fill the position.

~
~You mean like we do our folks in the military?  [Sorry, just could not
~resist.]
~
~On 2/1/06, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
~
~
~ A) pay truckers a decent salary  (may I suggest 75,000 to 100K ? a year
~ plus
~ benefits factor in inflation) to be away from their families
~
~
~
~



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'82 300CD (158,222 kmi)
'90 300E  '82 300D (parts or run?)



Re: [MBZ] Thanks Rusty was Power Steering

2006-02-01 Thread Rusty Cullens
Just some of Gary's clothing.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Berryman
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:51 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Thanks Rusty was Power Steering


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

 hard to imagine anyone shopping anywhere else!


Do you guys carry any other products that smell like cat piss?

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Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread Marshall Booth

Roger Conlon wrote:



http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html


I tried this site in the Model 126,  603 engine and I can get the subtitle
categories, but when I click on the heading I get an error message.
HTTP404 File Not Found.

Any one else get this to work?

Roger


The skinnerbox.steaky.org site CAN be browser sensitive. What browser 
are you using?


Try this site: http://mb.braingears.com/ (it seems to like IE better 
than Firefox on MY machine). May relate to the installed plugins or the 
plugin versions (Macromedia Shockwave plugin appropriate for your 
browser may be necessary).


Marshall
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turbo 237kmi




Re: [MBZ] Thanks Rusty was Power Steering

2006-02-01 Thread Gary Hurst
basically everything.  the place is just covered with cats here

On 2/1/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

  hard to imagine anyone shopping anywhere else!
 

Do you guys carry any other products that smell like cat piss?

 Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 01:01 PM, Tom Scordato wrote:


John thanks for asking.  The answer is yes I could do those things you
describe and have been bothering Rusty and others exactly as you 
describe.
But in all honesty it is my little way of being able to compare parts 
on
eBay, get parts from junk yards, between models ect.  Besides it gives 
me

something to do.  Keeps me out of pool halls and such.

Regards Tom Scordato



So, you're not really desperate, just trying to stay out of trouble.

Parts guys shouldn't be bothered by inquiries, its their job.

	The EPC has been driving people crazy for years. Look what it did to 
Dave M. (actually, he seems to have a good handle on the EPC).


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


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