Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
Roger - I did get a few sections to come up OK, but most did come up with page not found. Werner '90 D '83SD - Original Message - From: Roger Conlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:59:16 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Roger Conlon wrote: http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html I tried this site in the Model 126, 603 engine and I can get the subtitle categories, but when I click on the heading I get an error message. HTTP404 File Not Found. Any one else get this to work? Roger The skinnerbox.steaky.org site CAN be browser sensitive. What browser are you using? Try this site: http://mb.braingears.com/ (it seems to like IE better than Firefox on MY machine). May relate to the installed plugins or the plugin versions (Macromedia Shockwave plugin appropriate for your browser may be necessary). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi -- I'm using Microsoft Internet Explorer. As far as the plugin goes I have not a clue there. I did get the mb.braingears site to work, but it is not near as friendly/not having the categories broken down. Roger _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] experts / blowhards
I will not name names -- no matter how much $$$ I am offered -- ... well ... Watching the various posts and discussion here today (and over the past few years), I was suddenly hit by how many opinions we have. But more importantly, which of us (and again, I will not name names) have a long standing reputation for being really, really smart and good and perhaps even brilliant. And then we have some (me included) who are slobbering idiots who know nothing but always have a comment. The guys who know which end of the body the toilet paper is to touch are indeed an asset. Marshall ... Johnny B. [my personal hemp-dude, my actually go out and do something good instead of bitching hero] ... Mitch ... Pervine ... Mr. Clean ... and so many more. If you don't see your name here, don't feel slighted. I am going from memory. Those who read this know who is whom. The other list, the idiots: LT Don, -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] experts / blowhards #2
I can't neglect DanG and PegLeg. My apologies, guys. -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] W123 guide rods
yep, I have a couple of cars that need this treatment. John Ervine wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Squeaky and creaky, mostly on the passenger side. Sound seems to be coming from the rearward end of the track rod, but it's hard to tell for sure. Audible squeaking when bouncing the front of the car. Shocks are recent, everything else is unknown. You might want to consider rebuilding the entire front end in one go. It'll save you money on alignments. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Thanks Rusty was Power Steering
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 04:22 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: Mercedes revised the recommendation (236.2) for PS fluid in about 1987/1988 (236.3). They use an oil that's a little less viscous than type A ATF (which is less viscous than Dexron II/III) and that isn't treated with the Lubrisol additives. It is far superior (doesn't stiffen up) to conventional Dexron in very cold weather (although the synthetics that meet the Dexron/Mercon spec seem just fine). The Mercedes fluid is recommended for ALL Mercedes PS systems, but ATF is still permissible for any system that was originally factory filled with ATF (most any car built before 1987). Using ATF in cars up to about 1995 will not cause any major problem, but in cold weather, the steering may be more than a little stiff. Here's the result of some research on the subject by Dr Eric Chowanietz: I've felt things stiffen up with conventional Dexron III/Mercron and earlier Dexrons but never had the stiffness with Mobil 1 or Amsoil synthetic tranny fluid. I haven't moved and it still gets to 25 below around here. It seems Eric has mixed feelings on the application but he is spot on about the conventional ATF/Dexron in the cold going on to say it could have better corrosion and lubricating qualities. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
Some truckers already make that kind of money, my dads neighbor makes more than that. They already have sat tracking and can monitor speeds etc, luther can probably tell you about that. What is lower speeds going to do? Its a proven fact that lower speeds cause MORE wrecks because people get too bored and relaxed and such slow speeds. Some areas raised their speeds to something like 80 (out in tx somewhere I think) and it LOWERED accidents quite a bit. And as for people can wait longer for the load to get there, BT, WRONG. The way it is now the semi truck IS the warehouse, warehouses on wheels. Everything is so dependant on when stuff arrives we as a country would be screwed if something happened to stop ontime delivery. Its not like the old days where you had many a months, or weeks supplies of stuff at any particular location, everying is received just in time. In other words, just as a business, store, or whatever is running out of something is when the truck arrives. Tom Scordato wrote: John Berryman said I guess you wouldn't mind paying a lot more for every thing you buy when trucks start costing more than a half million bucks. Note what fuel surcharges alone can do to the price of shipping. Maybe you should become a truck driver, it seems you might be more attentive than some already on the job. That's where the problem really exists, the human factor. Knowledge, skill, attitude, alertness and emotions all factor in and vary widely between individuals. John to answer your question no I would not mind paying more. We are the most spoiled society on earth when it comes to that. And Trucks do not need to cost a million bucks here are a few more thoughts that might work, heck maybe they are being tried allready. A) pay truckers a decent salary (may I suggest 75,000 to 100K ? a year plus benefits factor in inflation) to be away from their families, not piece meal $ for mile that is only asking for trouble. This would include salary minimums for independents as well as company truckers B) limit, monitors and track speeds with engine electronic and confirm of trucks via satellite or some other method. C) brain and education, psycho test, similar to getting a merchant marine cost guard license, nuclear operators license or other licensed positions renewable every five years. These are to be real strict. Try to weed out the chaff. D) people and the industry can wait the extra three to five days (?) the lower speed limits would entail, no one is going to melt because of it. We survived when it took trains three weeks to deliver something. Matter of fact we actually manufactured things back then stuff the whole world including us purchased. E) weigh stations especially in the northeast (which are rarely open) would be required to be open allot more often (50%) of the time. Spot truck safety checks. F) satellite tracking of speed and movement to determine and limit speed and number of hours truck operators are on the road G) mandatory drug testing for uppers and downers H) major bonuses for operators with a clean record who do not drive aggressively, reward safety. Severely penalize truckers for accidents when they are at fault. Like loose your commercial license, never drive commercially again just like if you screw up on a merchant ship, they rip your coast guard license up. I) as an industry have a campain to educate the four wheelers to share in safety. Make it a profession again instead of what one person told me it was prison for me or trucking. Please do not compare trucks with cars by saying they should entail the same standards. 99% of the folks driving cars are not professionals. Tuckers are supposed to be professionals, not cowboys. There is too much at stake. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:34 AM, Tom Scordato wrote: An industry which should have the same safety standards as lets say the aerospace industry or maritime industry, is certainly lacking, big time, yet on a day by day basis affects as many if not more people. I guess you wouldn't mind paying a lot more for every thing you buy when trucks start costing more than a half million bucks. Note what fuel surcharges alone can do to the price of shipping. Maybe you should become a truck driver, it seems you might be more attentive than some already on the job. That's where the problem really exists, the human factor. Knowledge, skill, attitude, alertness and emotions all factor in and vary widely between individuals. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 05:22 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: A couple of my cars have full (both) undershields, my 124 only has the front shield (now - I destroyed the rear one) and my 190D 2.5 doesn't have ANY sound shields (the PO was an IDIOT). The factory replacements are EXPENSIVE, but the early shields and pads are MUCH less expensive then the later ones (but I don't know why). Marshall -- Mechanics must pull them off and throw them in the dumpster or something. I had a 201 stored at my buddies junk yard and he crushed it and shipped it while I was gone. I told him I had almost everything I wanted from it months earlier. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Shouldn't be too hard to make one either. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 07:04:35PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yep, I had to take a pee test before I could even APPLY for my CDL. And yes, standards are WAY more strict. For example, its illegal to carry a firearm in a commercial vehicle with a CDL, even if you hold a conceal and carry permit. You can lose your license and go to jail immediatly. ODD, as that is not the case in california (of all places). Actually, you don't need a CCW to carry in an owner-operator rig in CA (and there's case law on that one). K
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL For sale
Where is it located, got any pics?
Peter T. Arnold wrote:
Let's cut to the chase.
My car is worth $5,000 I THINK
But it needs sunroof repair of $1000
Total Paint of $1000 {I'm figuring enamel here, will look good for 5
years or so.)
So, I'll listen real hard to $3500 offer.
Car is my daily driver, sees about 500 miles a week, it is very
reliable.
Uses no coolant (#14 head)
Uses about 2 qt of DELVAC! at 10,000 mile change.
Has 2 cracks in dashboard.
Has Clarion Stereo/CD/MP3 player
24mpg at 75mph.
In the past 50,000 miles I've done the following, most of it
proactively due to comments on this list.
New Radiator
New water pump.
New Glow Plugs and relay
New Vacuum pump
New lifters
Total exhaust
New 16 alloys (Tires are about gone)
Serp Belt, Shock etc about 25Kmi ago.
Front Brakes, calipers, rotors and Bilsteins about 15Kmi ago. Rears
are scheduled for this spring.
This was a southern car, paint is badly faded. Never been hit HARD,
It did have minor R/R quarter damage the was painted by someone after
a long hydraulic lunch.
If any one on this list is interested, contact me. I can deliver for
expenses.
Pete, Who's best frind says he has too many toys and not enough time.
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[MBZ] power brake bleeder
Don, I have had this brand for the past 3 years and highly praise it for it's price, ease of use and quality. http://www.speedibleed.com/products/specialitykits2.php Dennis Perkins 84 300SD Message: 14 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:41:50 -0600 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] power brake bleeder To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What's a good one to buy? I think the time has come to purchase one. Performance Products catalog has a Power Bleeder in two flavors, $50 and $65. -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
uhhh, California doesnt have much say so about it, its a national thing. Kevin wrote: On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 07:04:35PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yep, I had to take a pee test before I could even APPLY for my CDL. And yes, standards are WAY more strict. For example, its illegal to carry a firearm in a commercial vehicle with a CDL, even if you hold a conceal and carry permit. You can lose your license and go to jail immediatly. ODD, as that is not the case in california (of all places). Actually, you don't need a CCW to carry in an owner-operator rig in CA (and there's case law on that one). K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I hope and pray you'll find a med that works for you. Laying in
bed in
pain in a remote location like a motel room is againy in itself! Try
to
get your PCP to give you a referral to a Anestheologists - they have
the
tools to make the pain go away and they work hard at doing so -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
Thanks Larry. I'm still hoping it will just go away. I am avoiding the
surgery, even the surgeon says if you can take the pain don't get cut.
I know technology is making all kinds of stuff possible but I'm going
to stick it out.
I have an appointment in a couple of weeks, I'll talk to the Dr. He
seems to genuinely care and understand the problem. He also understands
that I've made a lot of lifestyle changes but there is still a need for
me to abuse my body from time to time.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
You can send $50, paypal is OK LT Don wrote: Actually, no ... I was just thinking tonight about how much help this list has given me over the past few years. That's all. Don On 2/2/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let the record show, the witness made the 'drinky-drinky' motion On 2/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: huh? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post...
Would be interesting to find out how people came to be on this list(or the previous mbz.org) I will start, I was lead to the RE and MBCA list by Diann Quinn from Chicago(wisonsin maybe), signed up. Was on the MBCA list till it was canned by the high and mighty at the home office. Later kicked off the RE list and was a founding charter memember of mbz.org in 98(or was it 99?) Anyway, thats my story. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
On Wednesday 01 February 2006 5:51, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: so lets here some of those idiot 4 wheeler driver stories. I always love those. I think anyone living in the Sonoran desert basin of Arizona has a few- we see 'em in the news constantly. When it rains hard in the desert around Phoenix and Tucson during the monsoons, there are any number of washes which cross major roads and which become impassable, raging torrents of water as much as five or six feet deep. Invariably, some weenie thinks I can cross that, I've got a FOUR WHEEL DRIVE! Generally, you get to see the weenie on the six o'clock news, standing on the roof of his submerged SUV, waving arms frantically at the rescue helicopter overhead. Apparently, some folks don't realize that a four wheel drive is not a submarine. Maybe they forgot that the cute propeller thingie on their trailer hitch is just for looks... The best is when they show a picture of the vehicle and it is clearly just a few yards up or downstream from another four-wheel-drive which got stuck trying the same thing. Lee
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
wilton strickland wrote: Anybody hear W say anythng abt biodiesel to reduce dependence on oil? I missed the state of the union address, but last I knew, the solution to our dependence on foreign oil was to drill some wells and finish using up our own oil. That'll really make us less dependent on other countries which still have oil.
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Some truckers already make that kind of money, my dads neighbor makes more than that. They already have sat tracking and can monitor speeds etc, luther can probably tell you about that. What is lower speeds going to do? Its a proven fact that lower speeds cause MORE wrecks because people get too bored and relaxed and such slow speeds. The problem is the sheer physics involved. A truck going 80 mph has a tremendous stopping distance, even compared to a car at the same speed. There's the sheer weight involved, and the fact that semi braking systems aren't exactly state of the art -- compared to a car, they're pretty underbraked. (The coal trucking industry fought an anti-lock braking system mandate by pointing out that a loaded coal truck can't generate enough braking effort to lock its wheels! I also remember hearing about an accident where a truck took out a car that was stopped at the bottom of a hill waiting to turn left. The trucker was not issued a ticket because the police determined that, travelling at the speed limit, there was no way he could have seen the car in time to stop before hitting it -- once he crested the hill the car was already closer than his minimum stopping distance.)
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
no, he didnt mention biodiesel but did mention making ethanol out of stocks, switchgrass and such. Should have mentioned drilling in ANWR, off the coast of FL and CA, and exploiting oil shale deposits. Also should have mentioned the need to build more refinaries and nuke plants. Mitch Haley wrote: wilton strickland wrote: Anybody hear W say anythng abt biodiesel to reduce dependence on oil? I missed the state of the union address, but last I knew, the solution to our dependence on foreign oil was to drill some wells and finish using up our own oil. That'll really make us less dependent on other countries which still have oil. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
R A Bennell wrote: Recent article in our local paper says that the average age of truckers these days is climbing. Young people are not interested in the job and there is a shortage of drivers. Expect things to get worse before they get better. Does a CDL require an annual physical exam, like a pilot's license? It seems like it should for truckers carrying hazardous loads, at very least. There was recently an incident where I-5 was closed because a tank truck turned over after the driver had a heart attack. Fortunately he was able to guide the truck onto the shoulder before dying, or he wouldn't have been the only casualty.
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
not sure about annual, but yes, you have to have to pass DOT physical to get CDL David Brodbeck wrote: R A Bennell wrote: Recent article in our local paper says that the average age of truckers these days is climbing. Young people are not interested in the job and there is a shortage of drivers. Expect things to get worse before they get better. Does a CDL require an annual physical exam, like a pilot's license? It seems like it should for truckers carrying hazardous loads, at very least. There was recently an incident where I-5 was closed because a tank truck turned over after the driver had a heart attack. Fortunately he was able to guide the truck onto the shoulder before dying, or he wouldn't have been the only casualty. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
lee wrote: Apparently, some folks don't realize that a four wheel drive is not a submarine. You haven't seen the commercials for Jeep SUVs in recent years, have you? You can park those things completely under water, start them up and drive right out of the ocean. They don't even get wet inside.
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
Well, if those are the best means of reducing our dependence upon foreign oil, then we should just annex Canada; our largest single source of foreign oil...and, lately they've shown themselves to be really unstable. On 2/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, he didnt mention biodiesel but did mention making ethanol out of stocks, switchgrass and such. Should have mentioned drilling in ANWR, off the coast of FL and CA, and exploiting oil shale deposits. Also should have mentioned the need to build more refinaries and nuke plants. Mitch Haley wrote: wilton strickland wrote: Anybody hear W say anythng abt biodiesel to reduce dependence on oil? I missed the state of the union address, but last I knew, the solution to our dependence on foreign oil was to drill some wells and finish using up our own oil. That'll really make us less dependent on other countries which still have oil. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
[MBZ] worth at least 17K, a must read auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SEL-6-3-Modern-Day-Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang-1971-MB-300SEL-6-3_W0QQitemZ4609720968QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
On 2/1/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other list, the idiots: LT Don, Somehow or other, my toilet paper always ends up in my ear. Is this what you are talking about? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
[MBZ] just what you need for your boat
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-DIESEL-MARINE-ENGINE-NANNIDIESEL-USED_W0QQitemZ4609673503QQcategoryZ50442QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post...
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Would be interesting to find out how people came to be on this list(or the previous mbz.org) I found MBZ.org in 2002 through an internet search, after I decided I wanted a turbodiesel and then figured out that older MBZ were cheaper than VW turbos.
Re: [MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post...
On 2/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be interesting to find out how people came to be on this list(or the previous mbz.org) Well, if we're sharing ... I had been doing some research on BioDiesel. Trying to educate myself about the differences between DinoDiesel, and AlternaDiesels. Came to the conclusion that what I really want is a 116 / 123 Diesel MB. Shop right up the street from where I work deals primarily in MB work. Started talking to Chris up there about MB's, Diesel ones particularly. He had just gotten back a 108 that used to be his personal car he'd sold to a customer / friend and was selling for him. (So he knew a lot about it). So I started researching 108's and ran across the mbz.org board / page / system and joined the mailing list. Didn't buy the 108, though I really, really should have. Mostly because I didn't have the $$ he was asking. But I had almost got him to agree to a pay here type of deal before he sold it to another guy. *sighs* Lost opportunities. Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
Mitch Haley wrote: I first read that in a motorcycle magazine when I was a teenager. Having a preplanned strategy for if this bozo tries to kill me does work. When the other driver does try to kill me, my contingency plan is implemented faster than I can think. There's a related saying, in aviation, that you should never let an airplane take you somewhere that your mind didn't get to five minutes ago. In driving our time horizons are measured in seconds instead of minutes, but we still need to plan ahead. For example, most people fail to consider their sight distance when setting their speed. What if that blind curve or that rise in the road hides a downed tree, a washout, or a stalled car? I learned this lesson as a young driver when I blasted around a curve at 60 mph and found a tractor on the other side doing 15 mph in my lane. Scared the crap out of me. Now I don't do that anymore.
Re: [MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post...
speaking of internet searches, striplin.net is now on google it appears. Now almost hate to switch over to okiebenz.com, will have to start over again sort of I guess. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Would be interesting to find out how people came to be on this list(or the previous mbz.org) I found MBZ.org in 2002 through an internet search, after I decided I wanted a turbodiesel and then figured out that older MBZ were cheaper than VW turbos. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: not sure about annual, but yes, you have to have to pass DOT physical to get CDL Thanks. That's reassuring.
[MBZ] now this is a cheap 300D
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-1985-Mercedes-Turbo-Diesel_W0QQitemZ4609579459QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] acetone again
Uhh, wouldn't they want to surpress this with all the power available to them?
10% lowered sales would seem disasterous.
-Curt
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Howdy -
If this story were true wouldn;t the gas/fuel companies put a bit of
Acetone
in for us? Something that would bump mileage by 10% or so would seem
to be
a pretty good advertising story - they could do it and we would never
know
unless they told us.
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I think your next step, given the age of the engine, should be a
compression check. Compression problems usually show up as cold start
issues long before they affect power or economy. When it gets really
low the engine will start to misfire at warm idle and will be a bear to
start when cold, but it'll still drive well at speed.
If it's not compression, check for bad injectors, especially if you're
getting a lot of nailing with the engine warm. In my experience a VW
diesel with good injectors, and properly timed, is relatively quiet for
a diesel -- they don't clatter as much as the other mechanical diesels
I've experienced. Rebuilt injectors are around $40 each; if the ones
you have are original to the car, you may be amazed at the reduction in
smoke and noise with new ones. (Or you can take them to a Bosch shop
and get them pop tested. Last time I did this it was $10 an injector,
which could be credited towards rebuilt ones if they were bad.)
Re: [MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post...
Can you run it on both domain names? On 2/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speaking of internet searches, striplin.net is now on google it appears. Now almost hate to switch over to okiebenz.com, will have to start over again sort of I guess. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post...
I started looking for more info after I bought the SLC in '98. Settled on Joe Amelia's SL list. Moved to MBZ when Todd took over after Joe bought the boat and sold the SL. Been here ever since -- kind of like that stray dog/cat that got fed once, and now you can't get rid of -- On 2/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be interesting to find out how people came to be on this list(or the previous mbz.org) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post...
I can probably have one pointing to the other. OK Don wrote: Can you run it on both domain names? On 2/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speaking of internet searches, striplin.net is now on google it appears. Now almost hate to switch over to okiebenz.com, will have to start over again sort of I guess. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
thanks John. I seems the things I suggested are in for the most part in affect. Then why aremany of them still maniacs? Are they just trying to get home earlier? One maniac with 100,000 lbs is too many. Regards Tom - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 01:37 PM, Tom Scordato wrote: John to answer your question no I would not mind paying more. I know I would. You would too , you're just caught up in the moment. We are the most spoiled society on earth when it comes to that. We're spoiled in almost every aspect. (except automotive lighting) And Trucks do not need to cost a million bucks here are a few more thoughts that might work, heck maybe they are being tried allready. A) pay truckers a decent salary (may I suggest 75,000 to 100K ? a year plus benefits factor in inflation) to be away from their families, not piece meal $ for mile that is only asking for trouble. This would include salary minimums for independents as well as company truckers Some do make money like that and that's the life of a trucker. B) limit, monitors and track speeds with engine electronic and confirm of trucks via satellite or some other method. All this has been done for years and it is increasing. C) brain and education, psycho test, similar to getting a merchant marine cost guard license, nuclear operators license or other licensed positions renewable every five years. These are to be real strict. Try to weed out the chaff. Getting a CDL requires training and testing. Commercial drivers are faced with stiffer penalties and can loose there license for way fewer infractions than a common operator. D) people and the industry can wait the extra three to five days (?) the lower speed limits would entail, no one is going to melt because of it. We survived when it took trains three weeks to deliver something. Matter of fact we actually manufactured things back then stuff the whole world including us purchased. The rest of the world has been accustomed to speedy service and its the customer that inevitably sets the standard. i doubt the general public wants to wait any longer. For some next-day is too slow. E) weigh stations especially in the northeast (which are rarely open) would be required to be open allot more often (50%) of the time. Spot truck safety checks. The fact that they exist and could be open dictates that they drive safe trucks and haul safe loads. If you drove professionally, you'd think that there are too many open too much. In a lot of locales, they employ a system that takes info electronically and truck just have to pass under the sensors. This can only be used by those that meet all the requirements. Other trucks must pull into the weigh stations. F) satellite tracking of speed and movement to determine and limit speed and number of hours truck operators are on the road In effect for a long time. G) mandatory drug testing for uppers and downers Same as above. Long time. H) major bonuses for operators with a clean record who do not drive aggressively, reward safety. Severely penalize truckers for accidents when they are at fault. Like loose your commercial license, never drive commercially again just like if you screw up on a merchant ship, they rip your coast guard license up. This is done. Insurance Cos give Safe Driver discounts and penalties otherwise to private individuals as well as commercial drivers and trucking companies. A CDL is a Federal License issued by the various states, believe me, they're plenty strict as they are. I) as an industry have a campain to educate the four wheelers to share in safety. Amen, but this should be done before a license is issued after a certain amount of infractions/accidents and periodically throughout the life of drivers. Re-Testing should be mandatory as well. Some states are re-testing seniors. This is a good thing. If you can't pass written and driving tests you pose a threat to fellow drivers, pedestrians and property and should not be allowed the privelage of a driver's license. Make it a profession again instead of what one person told me it was prison for me or trucking. Please do not compare trucks with cars by saying they should entail the same standards. 99% of the folks driving cars are not professionals. Tuckers are supposed to be professionals, not cowboys. There is too much at stake. How many more rights do you want us to give up? The bad drivers obsolete themselves over time, many lose their license and drive any way but its near impossible to drive a truck unlicensed, thanks to the regs you hopefully now realize are in effect. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts
Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
Well said Dave M.! I just love the tool, Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE John, To add to what Tom said: 1) It takes time to look things up. The parts guys don't like spending a lot of time getting info, just to have the customer choke on the cost and say no thanks. So I do all my research and pricing beforehand, and only call when I'm actually ready to order. Saves me AND Rusty a lot of time - and money! 2) It can be very hard to describe oddball parts over the phone, assuming you're not down at the local dealership where the parts guy will let you look at his EPC screen and you can point to the item in question. Having it on your own computer is awesome. 3) I like to compare parts used on early vs. late versions of the same chassis, to find interesting upgrades, or to see what parts are compatible with old/new, etc. This is something the parts guys have little interest in, especially if you're going to be buying the parts used instead of new. 4) I look up parts for Euro models in my worldwide EPC - something the USA dealers can't do. Obtaining Euro parts can be a pain in some cases, depending on if MB USA wants a Euro VIN number to release the part, etc. 5) The EPC has a reverse lookup feature that I absolutely love. You can enter a part number, and it will tell you what exact models it's used on, and show you the group/subgroup within that model. The worldwide version lets you specify which market (NA, Europe, Japan, etc) if desired, to limit results. It also allows an SA search, if you have the 5-digit SA code. 6) The EPC allows you to look up the vehicle datacard. This is great to get color codes when buying a car, or looking at ads online - you can tell if it's Tex or leather, and what exactly tan or gold really is. It also means you can check the options installed. I've done this when buying used parts, when a wrecker claims to have a Sportline steering box, I can check the VIN and tell if it has the proper codes or not. Most of the time the wrecker is wrong, it saves me a lot of time and $$$ to figure this out over the phone BEFORE placing an order. Just a few things to keep in mind... it really is handy! :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:01:59 -0500 From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE Why the desperation? Can't you let the folks you buy your parts from look up the items that you need, for you? You will have to speak to a parts person to make a purchase or choose from items on a web site any way. I have managed to survive all these years without one. I let the parts guys be the parts guys and I take it from there.D John thanks for asking. The answer is yes I could do those things you describe and have been bothering Rusty and others exactly as you describe. But in all honesty it is my little way of being able to compare parts on eBay, get parts from junk yards, between models ect. Besides it gives me something to do. Keeps me out of pool halls and such. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 1979 240D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
lee wrote: What I want to know is, did he address the irresponsibility of driving a seven thousand pound, ten mile to the gallon behemoth SUV simply to go to the mall and take your kiddies to soccer practice? No, of course not. His proposals were all supply-side -- mostly more subsidies. Conservation is un-American, remember?
[MBZ] Speaker wiring. . 1990 190e
Listers, I need some information or perhaps just a source for a diagram. . I am trying to install my daughters new radio and am having issues identifying the wiring. . Can anyone provide some assistance. . Thanks Troy Kocher Nashville TN 7 240d (biofuels.ca) 191kMi SOLD, 79 280CE 130kMi, 77 240d parts, 81 240d 287kMi 82 300CD 215kMi SOLD, 90 190E 53kMi, 95 E300d 189kMi
[MBZ] I see this pig is back
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Strong-running-300SD-diesel-new-engine-inexpensive_W0QQitemZ4609416901QQcategoryZ6336QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 02:14 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: I am more than a little dismayed at the demise of the quality of the professional truck driver. not long ago, the big rig driver would often be an exemplar for safe and courteous driving. today, trucks scare me more than drunks. A direct result of drug testing. Its affected many other industries too. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
[MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate
The trucking industry is fighting a proposal to mandate 2% biodiesel in all diesel fuel sold in Washington state. They're concerned about poor fuel quality causing unreliability and warranty issues with engine manufacturers. Apparently a similar initiative in Minnesota resulted in widespread problems with clogged filters and gelled fuel. Article here: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/257659_biodiesel31.html My gut feeling: It's too soon to mandate this kind of thing. The biodiesel industry needs to mature to the point where it can provide a consistent, inexpensive product before anyone is required to use it. I also think wanting to subsidize local farmers is the wrong reason to do it -- but that doesn't mean there aren't valid reasons. I think it would be nice to see biodiesel offered as an alternative lubricity additive for low-sulfur fuel, for example. (The fight over the lubricity additive that *has* been mandated, and what it does to pipelines, is a whole 'nother discussion.)
[MBZ] W's concern abt oil
'Point is we've never had and still don't have any national energy policy but, Use as much as we can as fast as we can. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate
The trucking industry is fighting a proposal to mandate 2% biodiesel in all diesel fuel sold in Washington state. They're concerned about poor fuel quality causing unreliability and warranty issues with engine manufacturers. Apparently a similar initiative in Minnesota resulted in widespread problems with clogged filters and gelled fuel. Article here: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/257659_biodiesel31.html Must be really, really cold, if the truckers are having gelling issues with commercial grade B20. I buy B20 biodiesel in Santa Fe and it has a gel point of 30 degrees below zero. Clogged filters I can believe, as biodiesel can loosen up accumulated crud in an engine. OTOH, the increased lubricity will probably make their engines last 25% longer, so maybe they should suck it up, replace the filters, and be glad they have cleaner, longer lasting engines that pollute far less. The petrodiesel exhaust which the truckers are breathing daily is carcinogenenic, and so the truckers themselves will arguably last longer with biodiesel also. The downside from a strictly self-centered vantage is that the Minnesota law created a temporary biodiesel shortage out here, with prices even for the B20 spiking up to $4 per gallon. But now there are more biodiesel refineries opening up, and things are stabilizing again. But 2% biodiesel, is that enough to do anything, good or bad? I wouldn't think that would have a significant impact on gelling, filter clogging, or air pollution. Lee
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
You need toilet paper on your nose! On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:32:51 -0600, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not name names -- no matter how much $$$ I am offered -- ... well ... -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
'Point is we've never had and still don't have any national energy policy but, Use as much as we can as fast as we can. Wilton IIRC, Jimmy Carter had us turning our thermostats down to 68. His administration may have been responsible for the implementation of CAFE standards in 1978 also. I agree that we haven't had much of an energy policy in recent decades. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD
Re: [MBZ] Sound panels, was Nice 190D Low Miles
They are pretty expensive to buy new, considering that they're not much more than shaped pieces of plastic lined with foam. Here's what they look like brand new, for a 124 diesel: http://w124.f0e.net/124_goodies/sound_panels/ -Aaron
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
EXACTLY. A perfect description of my mechanical efforts. On 2/2/06, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/1/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other list, the idiots: LT Don, Somehow or other, my toilet paper always ends up in my ear. Is this what you are talking about? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
Well said Kaleb. The trucks I maintain haul parts for Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Chrysler, US Mail, and other high priority (JIT) freight. Many times our trailer is live loaded/unloaded (mostly Toyota) onto the assembly line and other times it sits less than 4 hours before parts are used on the assembly line. Life's extremely exciting when one of these trucks breaks down. I'm the only maintenance person who can get tires changed NASCAR style and other trucks pulled out of the shop by a forklift to repair mine. Damnit, I love the power that gives me. :D There are also 15-20 drivers I manage who easily make 100-130k a year and are home 2 nights/days a week. They make 3-4 times my salary and I tell them what to do. On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:00:30 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some truckers already make that kind of money, my dads neighbor makes more than that. They already have sat tracking and can monitor speeds etc, luther can probably tell you about that. What is lower speeds going to do? Its a proven fact that lower speeds cause MORE wrecks because people get too bored and relaxed and such slow speeds. Some areas raised their speeds to something like 80 (out in tx somewhere I think) and it LOWERED accidents quite a bit. And as for people can wait longer for the load to get there, BT, WRONG. The way it is now the semi truck IS the warehouse, warehouses on wheels. Everything is so dependant on when stuff arrives we as a country would be screwed if something happened to stop ontime delivery. Its not like the old days where you had many a months, or weeks supplies of stuff at any particular location, everying is received just in time. In other words, just as a business, store, or whatever is running out of something is when the truck arrives. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,xxx kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
Oh yea, I was going to mention the technology is out there to control the trucks ECM through the satellite. Commands can be sent (like shut down at next stop), read engine codes, and many other goodies. On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:20:28 -0600, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said Kaleb. The trucks I maintain haul parts for Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Chrysler, US Mail, and other high priority (JIT) freight. Many times our trailer is live loaded/unloaded (mostly Toyota) onto the assembly line and other times it sits less than 4 hours before parts are used on the assembly line. Life's extremely exciting when one of these trucks breaks down. I'm the only maintenance person who can get tires changed NASCAR style and other trucks pulled out of the shop by a forklift to repair mine. Damnit, I love the power that gives me. :D There are also 15-20 drivers I manage who easily make 100-130k a year and are home 2 nights/days a week. They make 3-4 times my salary and I tell them what to do. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,xxx kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
Allow me to explain. When I first got my 240D (a couple of years ago), some folks on here were extremely patient and held my hand while I got used to working in it. Stuff that is now second nature to me were absolute mysteries at the time. And even with that experience, I have little in the way of mechanical expertise to offer in return for all I've received. So, now I drag home Loren's old VW diesel (with one owner in there between Loren and me). Working on this, I suddenly feel really stupid again, and have no diesel list to turn to with this diesel. Oh, I found a forum, but most of these guys are more concerned with hanging spoilers under their Passats then they are concerned with maintaining something old. Made me appreciate how much assistance I've received from our small circle of experts here. On 2/2/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well then, me (aka the witness) shall hoist one (or two) just for you. -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate
lee wrote: OTOH, the increased lubricity will probably make their engines last 25% longer, so maybe they should suck it up, replace the filters, and be glad they have cleaner, longer lasting engines that pollute far less. That may be true, but it's hard to make that case when some engine manufacturers are telling them they won't honor fuel system warranties on engines used with biodiesel. But 2% biodiesel, is that enough to do anything, good or bad? I wouldn't think that would have a significant impact on gelling, filter clogging, or air pollution. Cynical answer: It's enough to drive up the local market for soybeans, which is probably the main goal. Less cynical answer: Small concentrations of biodiesel have been shown to increase lubricity significantly, and reduce particulates somewhat. I think the sponsors of the bill would also tell you that 2% is just a starting point.
[MBZ] Cheap 87 300TD
Potential rustbucket. Hard to tell from the lack of pictures. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4609667109 -Aaron
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
LT Don wrote: So, now I drag home Loren's old VW diesel (with one owner in there between Loren and me). Working on this, I suddenly feel really stupid again, and have no diesel list to turn to with this diesel. Oh, I found a forum, but most of these guys are more concerned with hanging spoilers under their Passats then they are concerned with maintaining something old. Try the Audi-VW-Diesels Yahoo group: It's pretty quiet, compared to this list, but ask a question and you should get some help. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Audi-VW-Diesels/
Re: [MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post...
He can barely run one, and you want him to run two? On 2/2/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you run it on both domain names? -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol
I have found that ethanol in fuel is garbage, I put a tank full of ethanol blend into the 230E and it hated it, fuel mileage went down as well. No wonder our friends the oil companies are pushing for an ethanol blend, worse mileage equals more fuel sold. Maybe fifteen years ago 10% ethanol was mandated in certain zip codes in the winter months in western Washington. After EPA air quality requirements were met, ethanol went away, thank God. It is true that mileage drops 10% which was proven to me, tank after tank. It's hard to measure performance except to say that it was noticeably down. Which means, obviously, that monthly fuel cost went up 10%. My Porsche isn't driven much and so I didn't want ethanol in the tank all winter, so I gassed it up in late September which I made last until normal gas was again available in about March. Maybe April. The main benefactors turn out to be ADM Corp. plus the Iowa corn farmers. RLE/Seattle
Re: [MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post...
I have no idea how I ended up on here. Probably Google. Wouldn't be the first time that something I found on Google has screwed up my life! [Anyone want to buy a slightly used black latex jumpsuit, size 48 long?] On 2/2/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be interesting to find out how people came to be on this list(or the previous mbz.org) I will start, I was lead to the RE and MBCA list by Diann Quinn from Chicago(wisonsin maybe), signed up. Was on the MBCA list till it was canned by the high and mighty at the home office. Later kicked off the RE list and was a founding charter memember of mbz.org in 98(or was it 99?) Anyway, thats my story. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
On 2/1/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don wrote: So, now I drag home Loren's old VW diesel (with one owner in there between Loren and me). Working on this, I suddenly feel really stupid again, and have no diesel list to turn to with this diesel. Oh, I found a forum, but most of these guys are more concerned with hanging spoilers under their Passats then they are concerned with maintaining something old. Try the Audi-VW-Diesels Yahoo group: It's pretty quiet, compared to this list, but ask a question and you should get some help. Also www.tdiclub.com. Mostly aimed at newer VWs as the name implies but there are some people on there with older ones. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] Belly pans
Shouldn't be too hard to make one either. Depends on what you want it to look like. Just yesterday I removed the front pan from my C320 to clean up the remains of a little boo-boo from my last oil change, plus eyeball the motor mounts. The pan is held on by six bolts and is integrated with a covers ahead, behind and on each side. I know the older cars are not so elaborate but cobbling one up from sheet aluminum would add weight plus if it came off could become a lethal piece of road debris. RLE
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
I emailed the owner / manager / monitor of TDIClub asking if they covered '83 VW diesels in their discussion, expecting a reply of we will try or everyone is welcome or maybe, aren't you the same LT Don that is on Banned? -- no reply. I took that as a sign that they preferred the newer VW owners. On 2/2/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/1/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don wrote: So, now I drag home Loren's old VW diesel (with one owner in there between Loren and me). Working on this, I suddenly feel really stupid again, and have no diesel list to turn to with this diesel. Oh, I found a forum, but most of these guys are more concerned with hanging spoilers under their Passats then they are concerned with maintaining something old. Try the Audi-VW-Diesels Yahoo group: It's pretty quiet, compared to this list, but ask a question and you should get some help. Also www.tdiclub.com. Mostly aimed at newer VWs as the name implies but there are some people on there with older ones. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
On 2/1/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emailed the owner / manager / monitor of TDIClub asking if they covered '83 VW diesels in their discussion, expecting a reply of we will try or everyone is welcome or maybe, aren't you the same LT Don that is on Banned? -- no reply. I took that as a sign that they preferred the newer VW owners. I haven't been there in a while (no problems with the ex's TDI, knock on wood) but IIRC there was a forum called Other VW Group Diesels that was fairly active. It's free to join. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] Belly pans and noise
I had to fabricate a new front pan for our SDL, the original was long-gone. I made it out of roof flashing, fiberglass, and fiberglass batting (insulation). It's a thoroughgoing mess now, due to the 603's penchant for oil leaks, but it did quiet the outside of the car down. The pans noticeably quiet the car down inside by eliminating engine noise reflecting off the pavement. I would guess that a pre-CDI MB diesel could not pass Switzerland's pass-by noise test (just one country with this requirement, there are others) without a pan. The 1989 Porsche 911 model 964 has an enclosed engine because of the Swiss law. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Wet
You haven't seen the commercials for Jeep SUVs in recent years, have you? You can park those things completely under water, start them up and drive right out of the ocean. I think you are thinking of that Toyota diesel pickup on TopGear. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2402060372341641699 RLE/Seattle
Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 08:19 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: I had to fabricate a new front pan for our SDL, the original was long-gone. I made it out of roof flashing, fiberglass, and fiberglass batting (insulation). It's a thoroughgoing mess now, due to the 603's penchant for oil leaks, but it did quiet the outside of the car down. -- Jim I'm going to keep my eyes open for proper materials, like a plastic 55gal drum plastic truck mud flap or something. I'd rig it so I can use those oil diapers we use in boats to soak up and quell the noise. Just change the diapers when they're soiled. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] TP
You need toilet paper on your nose! No problem. He can use that four foot length of it trailing behind his heel, can't he? Sheriff Buford T. Justice
Re: [MBZ] power brake bleeder
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:10:16 -0800 Dennis Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, I have had this brand for the past 3 years and highly praise it for it's price, ease of use and quality. http://www.speedibleed.com/products/specialitykits2.php I have one, too, but I got it before they added the toolbox case -- was a lot cheaper then. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
Huh? - Please explain. I don't see the relationship --- A direct result of drug testing. Its affected many other industries too. Johnny B. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate
Since I'm now officially privy to insider information, I can say that a major manufacturer is seriously interested in investing in a large-scale biodiesel manufacturing facility in Whitman county Warshington. I spoke at length with a contract lobbyist working with this entity who wants to incubate and encourage local farmers to grow canola plants. Canola is currently running at 9cents a pound, but he's willing to pay growers in Warshington 15cents as an inducement. This entity also thinks the mandated 2% rule is the wrong way to go, if we're to encourage biodiesel production and consumption here in the NW--carrot v. stick. I'm personally excited to see the possibility for production of bio fuels up in these parts. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] W123 guide rods
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Trampas wrote: Here is what I do: Both guide rod bushings/bearings New lower ball joints (special press required) New idler arm New center drag link New left and right outer tie rod assemblies New shocks New steering damper Reseal PS box if needed. Shocks are recent. At last alignment, tie rods were done. Thanks for the info. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
[MBZ] DIY W124 sunroof repair
Hi all, Last fall, my sunroof made a sickening noise when I went to pop it open one day. I managed to get it closed, and left it alone until I had time to work on it, which was last week. One of the angular lifting arms, which are the fancy mechanical pieces that allow the sunroof to both slide open AND pop upward, had broken. And when I took things apart, the other one broke during disassembly! I had heard all the stories about how this is not a DIY job, and is best left to the dealer for $1000+ in parts labor. But, being the tightwad that I am, I figured I'd try it myself first... and if I screwed it up, I'd have to let the dealer fix it. The worst part is getting the sunroof disassembled with it broken. Normally, the first step in disassembly is to open the roof fully, then remove the liner and front rails. Well, that is not possible when the mechanism has broken. (See below for tips on how I did it in my case.) After getting the trim panel out of the way, I could see the nuts that were to be removed. I scribed marks around these so I could re-assemble in the same position later. With the metal roof removed, the hard part is over, then it's just a matter of carefully following the factory service manual procedure - which, I must say, is a little vague in some areas. I also marked exactly where the lift arms attach to the transport bridge, the wide section that the sunroof cable attaches to. Once the lift arms, drip rail, and bridge are removed, you need to clean everything up and then re-assemble. The procedure said to lube moving parts of the lift arms with Gleitpaste (special sunroof lube), which I did. It also said to lube the rails, and the felt pads on the lift arms, which seemed weird but I did it anyway. It looked to me like the felt pads would be fine with no lube, but oh well. Installation was relatively straightforward. I had the pliers to pull the metal roof forward, but I really don't think they're necessary. The small plastic gauges are needed, and come in handy, but it took some head-scratching to figure out where they attach. I forgot to take a photo of them in place - wooops. When putting things back together, I used the marks I had made when taking things apart, and it turned out quite well - I didn't feel the need to do further alignment, it looks fine. And it works perfectly! I was a pretty happy camper by this point. :) If you are just taking the roof apart to clean it, the only nuts that need to be removed are the 2 on each side with the wide washers that attach the metal roof to the bracket on the lift arms. There's no adjustment here, no need to mark them, AFAICT. It's the two small screws on the side that attach the bracket to the lift arms that allow vertical adjustment for the rear of the roof - leave those alone unless you're replacing broken arms. The other important ones are the 6 screws that attach the arms to the transport bridge. Mark the position of the arms on the bridge - I just scribed a line along the edge. This is less critical, IMO. Don't mess with the nuts on the front of the metal roof panel. The EPC indicates that the old lift arms have been superceded by new improved lift arms for early VIN numbers only - the break is the mid-1987 model year, and of course I had the early style. In my case, I needed both sides (at $100+ each), plus a new drip rail, new metal guide rails, and - allegedly - a new cable. However, you don't mess with the cable at all. The cable design was also changed, and the EPC says the old part must no longer be installed. I'm guessing that MB figures if you're doing major sunroof work, this would be a good time to upgrade the cable too. However, it's not *required*. I already had the new cable, and figured I might as well go for it. It takes quite a bit of force to remove once it's run out of the motor, and kind of jerks out in sections - it seems to hang up periodically. Installing the new cable was awful - I almost thought I was not going to get it back in. With a friend helping to twist the cable, and me pushing, we finally got it back to the motor and it pulled the rest of the way in normally once it hit the motor drive gear. Disassembly tips: == This worked on my car, but I can't say it will always work - I don't know what the usual failure mode is: 1) You have to get the liner/trim panel off the sunroof. There are 4 plastic press-in clips near the front that must be popped downward. I was able to partially raise my sunroof, and pried it up by hand as best I could, propping it in position with whatever won't scratch the paint. Then, through the maybe 2-inch opening, I could shine a flashlight in to see above the liner panel. I used a long (24-30 inch), flat (3/4 wide by 1/16 thick) metal bar to wedge in between the metal roof, and the metal frame of the liner panel. This is VERY HARD to do unless you can look at another 124 with a good sunroof, and pop the liner down (with the sunroof opened) to see how the clips
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
OK Don wrote: Can't believe that I'm defending the clown, but I did read that he said in response to the GM and Ford woes that the government will not bail them out, that they should build something relevant. Couldn't believe my eyes. I agree in principle, but I don't think it's a principled stand. He was all for giving money to the airlines to protect those jobs, and he has no problem with giving tax breaks to oil companies in a year of record profits for them. Yet he thinks bailing out auto manufacturers isn't a good idea. Maybe it has something to do with union autoworkers tending to vote Democratic.
Re: [MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post...
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 09:15 PM, OK Don wrote: On 2/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be interesting to find out how people came to be on this list(or the previous mbz.org) I bought a 300CD from Jason Stern when he was in Baton Rouge. I told him I was trying to find a tool and he gave me the mbz.org. I don't remember the year but its been a while. I think it was Dave Wakins sent me a query to my private e-mail and subsequently told me about Klebbie having a discussion group/mailing list. I've been on the road with FEMA moreso over the past few years so I've been on and off the various lists, no time for this when disaster strikes. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
Alex Chamberlain wrote: And wearing sweaters! Part of the reason he lost the election in 1980---nobody wanted Mr. Rogers for president. The Onion, in their Our Dumb Century book, had a great sendup of that election. It was a newspaper front page with a picture of Carter, captioned Let's talk better mileage, and one of Reagan, captioned Kill the bastards.
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
It took me over a year and a half to join that list. For some reason or another the website wouldn't accept my application to join, and they never returned my email. I wouldn't read much into their lack of response. On 2/1/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emailed the owner / manager / monitor of TDIClub asking if they covered '83 VW diesels in their discussion, expecting a reply of we will try or everyone is welcome or maybe, aren't you the same LT Don that is on Banned? -- no reply. I took that as a sign that they preferred the newer VW owners. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
On 2/1/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It took me over a year and a half to join that list. For some reason or another the website wouldn't accept my application to join, and they never returned my email. I wouldn't read much into their lack of response. You, sir, are too persistant for your own good. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
Ok guys (I don't thing Jan is reading our posts anymore) I think we just got the clue! If we don't talk to LT Don, he will go away! Yeeha! ; ) At 09:31 PM 2/1/2006, you wrote: I emailed the owner / manager / monitor of TDIClub asking if they covered '83 VW diesels in their discussion, expecting a reply of we will try or everyone is welcome or maybe, aren't you the same LT Don that is on Banned? -- no reply. I took that as a sign that they preferred the newer VW owners.
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
Growing up I spent a lot of time with my friend Bill's dad in his garage watching, and then eventually helping him work on his '68 200D. I knew by age 12 I would drive and care for these cars. When I finally got my own and started caring for it, I was able to draw upon what I learned in Mr. Hounshell's garage and do a respectable job at whatever I tried. After I got on the list...even in the early days...things became more clear. It was like how I remember getting glasses in fourth grade made everything clear...the way Herr Doktor Booth, Pennoff and the rest explained things was so simple and clear. I am often hesitant to try to explain jobs I'm familiar with because I can't explain things as you as you others can. I'm on that list with LT Don. Bob Rentfro '77 3000D 148K '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K Litchfield Park . - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards Allow me to explain. When I first got my 240D (a couple of years ago), some folks on here were extremely patient and held my hand while I got used to working in it. Stuff that is now second nature to me were absolute mysteries at the time. And even with that experience, I have little in the way of mechanical expertise to offer in return for all I've received. So, now I drag home Loren's old VW diesel (with one owner in there between Loren and me). Working on this, I suddenly feel really stupid again, and have no diesel list to turn to with this diesel. Oh, I found a forum, but most of these guys are more concerned with hanging spoilers under their Passats then they are concerned with maintaining something old. Made me appreciate how much assistance I've received from our small circle of experts here. On 2/2/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well then, me (aka the witness) shall hoist one (or two) just for you. -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
Shush! You will blow my theory out of the water with this heresy! At 10:48 PM 2/1/2006, you wrote: It took me over a year and a half to join that list. For some reason or another the website wouldn't accept my application to join, and they never returned my email. I wouldn't read much into their lack of response. On 2/1/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emailed the owner / manager / monitor of TDIClub asking if they covered '83 VW diesels in their discussion, expecting a reply of we will try or everyone is welcome or maybe, aren't you the same LT Don that is on Banned? -- no reply. I took that as a sign that they preferred the newer VW owners. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate
Some truckers may be fighting B2, but John Deere last summer announced that they were shipping all their new tractors with B2. And Willie Nelson has been making the news regularly with his BioDiesel empire. (In Texas, yet!) Werner - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate The trucking industry is fighting a proposal to mandate 2% biodiesel in all diesel fuel sold in Washington state. They're concerned about poor fuel quality causing unreliability and warranty issues with engine manufacturers. Apparently a similar initiative in Minnesota resulted in widespread problems with clogged filters and gelled fuel. Article here: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/257659_biodiesel31.html My gut feeling: It's too soon to mandate this kind of thing. The biodiesel industry needs to mature to the point where it can provide a consistent, inexpensive product before anyone is required to use it. I also think wanting to subsidize local farmers is the wrong reason to do it -- but that doesn't mean there aren't valid reasons. I think it would be nice to see biodiesel offered as an alternative lubricity additive for low-sulfur fuel, for example. (The fight over the lubricity additive that *has* been mandated, and what it does to pipelines, is a whole 'nother discussion.)
Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 11:04 PM, OK Don wrote: A direct result of drug testing. Its affected many other industries too. Johnny B. There are a plethora of great workers from all walks of life that use drugs recreationally ie: not high on the job. A study shows that they either fear the results of a failed test or consider it an invasion of privacy and they won't even apply for the job. This same study also showed using insurance Co statistics that since widespread drug testing has been implemented the workplace has become no safer, in fact, perhaps by coincidence job related loss claims have increased. It was also speculated that all the lawyers running around screaming sue everybody have fueled the increased reports of job related accidents. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Sound panels, was Nice 190D Low Miles
These panels are the newest versions available for a 1987 300D. I assumed your car would have the same ones, but the EPC indicates that the engine, transmission, and one side panel are different for the 300D 2.5 and also for the E300D. The side ones are usually intact, but the foam disintegrates and falls apart after a while. -Aaron
[MBZ] Do these work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mercedes-Hammer-Tool-for-Removal-prechamber-cyl-Head_W0QQitemZ7537784873QQcategoryZ42337QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem The new 220D is safely stowed in the garage and ready to give up it prechambers. I am thinking of grinding down a socket to fit the slotted ring. Will the aforementioned slide hammer be able to yank it out? Thanks, Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 02 05:35:22 2006 Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F4X7p-0005e0-NQ for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 05:35:22 + Received: from WFlaptop ([151.204.220.95]) by vms040.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:35:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 00:35:11 -0500 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sound panels, was Nice 190D Low Miles X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 05:35:22 - Thanks, Aaron - I suspected that was for a different 124. My '90 with the 2.5 engine has a similar front panel, which has to be removed to get the rear (trans) panel off. But that panel is larger and more rectangular, and I seem to recall it has 6 screws holding it up. I'm pretty sure that there aren't any side panels. On my car (with 221k miles), both panels have oil-soaked foam but that doesn't seem to be a problem unless you get obsessed with such things. And the front one only comes off for oil changes (I'm too cheap to do the top-sider thing, as the dealerships now do) as I like to check around, especially oil cooler lines, etc. The rear large panel only comes off every couple of years or so for the 30k transmission service. Werner - Original Message - From: Aaron Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sound panels, was Nice 190D Low Miles These panels are the newest versions available for a 1987 300D. I assumed your car would have the same ones, but the EPC indicates that the engine, transmission, and one side panel are different for the 300D 2.5 and also for the E300D. The side ones are usually intact, but the foam disintegrates and falls apart after a while. -Aaron
Re: [MBZ] acetone again
An acquaintance told me he tried it and it worked as claimed.
Bruce
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If this story were true wouldn;t the gas/fuel companies put a bit of Acetone
in for us? Something that would bump mileage by 10% or so would seem to be
a pretty good advertising story - they could do it and we would never know
unless they told us.
Sincerely,
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Werner, can you do me a favor and take a picture of the main (engine)
panel the next time you remove it for an oil change? The 300D 2.5
panel is almost $100 *cheaper* than the same part for the 1987 300D,
and I'm dying to see what the exact difference is between the two
parts.
-Aaron
[MBZ] Some go info on buying used cars
Check this site out before buying. Just get a VIN # http://nicb.com/
Re: [MBZ] Sound panels, was Nice 190D Low Miles
Aaron - I'll make a note, but remind me in a couple of months in case I have to take it off for some other reason. But the bad news is that I just changed the oil, and it'll be 10k miles probably and a year before it comes off again for that reason. That's assuming the oil sample test comes back as before, which reported that the Delvac1 was still well within spec after 10 k miles. But the picture you have looks really very similar - about the only thing that could be different is where the 4 screw holes are located, and I would expect them not to be too different on the same chassis model. Werner - Original Message - From: Aaron Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sound panels, was Nice 190D Low Miles Werner, can you do me a favor and take a picture of the main (engine) panel the next time you remove it for an oil change? The 300D 2.5 panel is almost $100 *cheaper* than the same part for the 1987 300D, and I'm dying to see what the exact difference is between the two parts. -Aaron
[MBZ] Fw: Biodiesel Bulletin
For all those BioDiesel guys who might not follow this web site: Werner - Original Message - From: National Biodiesel Board [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:46 PM Subject: Biodiesel Bulletin Biodiesel Bulletin Largest Event in the Industry Can be Tracked Online Through Blog You will not receive a February Biodiesel Bulletin this month due to the National Biodiesel Conference Expo February 5-8 in San Diego. However, if you aren’t lucky enough to be one of the 2,000 people coming to the conference, you can follow it in up-to-the-minute fashion on the Biodiesel Blog (blog.biodieselconference.org). The blog will offer ready access to written updates, press releases, pictures, audio interviews and even some video from the conference. See you in San Diego…or on the Biodiesel Blog! National Biodiesel Board To Unsubscribe, copy and paste the following url into your browser's address window: http://biodiesel.grassroots.com/standard/systemMessagesandOperations/?spType=unsubscribelk=4761724-4761724-0-20107-5v1uk30FnMMgOFvv35ti8iRJIt5UKIgd ~~ Powered by Grassroots Enterprise, Inc. http://www.grassroots.com ~~
Re: [MBZ] Booger Holler OT
If you are thinking about Booger Hollow on Hwy 7 between Jasper and Russellville ( the one with the two story outhouse ), they close during the winter. ---Robert redghost wrote: Luther, You are from that neck of the woods. A shipmate wants to know if the Booger Holler Ham folks are still smoking hams and if so, will they ship out west? Would you be near that area and know this? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
irresponsibility? oh god. lee wrote: wilton strickland wrote: Anybody hear W say anythng abt biodiesel to reduce dependence on oil? I missed the state of the union address, but last I knew, the solution to our dependence on foreign oil was to drill some wells and finish using up our own oil. That'll really make us less dependent on other countries which still have oil. What I want to know is, did he address the irresponsibility of driving a seven thousand pound, ten mile to the gallon behemoth SUV simply to go to the mall and take your kiddies to soccer practice? Lee
Re: [MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post...
Does it have a big 70's style collar? My alter ego Disco Stu was just wondering. Anyway how I got to be here, well Kaleb wrote me an email to say he was cranking a new list. Thought I might check it out and vorla you people are stuck with me (insert evil laugh here). Hendrik I like to boogie...all night long - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post... I have no idea how I ended up on here. Probably Google. Wouldn't be the first time that something I found on Google has screwed up my life! [Anyone want to buy a slightly used black latex jumpsuit, size 48 long?] On 2/2/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be interesting to find out how people came to be on this list(or the previous mbz.org) I will start, I was lead to the RE and MBCA list by Diann Quinn from Chicago(wisonsin maybe), signed up. Was on the MBCA list till it was canned by the high and mighty at the home office. Later kicked off the RE list and was a founding charter memember of mbz.org in 98(or was it 99?) Anyway, thats my story. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/242 - Release Date: 26/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
Yeah like more armoured Humvees and guns, yeah lots more guns. You just sort of know that we are in the deep end of the poo pool when dubbya starts saying we are in the deep end. Hendrik more guns = more fun - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil Can't believe that I'm defending the clown, but I did read that he said in response to the GM and Ford woes that the government will not bail them out, that they should build something relevant. Couldn't believe my eyes. On 2/1/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lee wrote: What I want to know is, did he address the irresponsibility of driving a seven thousand pound, ten mile to the gallon behemoth SUV simply to go to the mall and take your kiddies to soccer practice? No, of course not. His proposals were all supply-side -- mostly more subsidies. Conservation is un-American, remember? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/242 - Release Date: 26/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards
Yeah get a life you volksy driving hippie. Probably got cannabis stashed in there somewhere I bet. Now there is a thought, bio-diesel made from cannabishmmmn after following that 300D I feel like a mars bar Hendrik who does not condone the use of illegal drugs even if it is burned in the engine - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] experts / blowhards On 2/1/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It took me over a year and a half to join that list. For some reason or another the website wouldn't accept my application to join, and they never returned my email. I wouldn't read much into their lack of response. You, sir, are too persistant for your own good. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/242 - Release Date: 26/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] OT: Smoky VW diesel when cold
Real common for VW diesels to get sticky rings, especially if you are getting oil smell in the exhaust.Compression will drop and get hard to start and act just as you describe. Best thing I've found is Auto RX to clean them out ( www.auto-rx.com ) costy but it really works. Liqui Moly sells a cleaner called Oil Schlamm spulung that does a fair job but doesn't get it all. Robert Dave M. wrote: Hi all, My 1981 VW Dasher diesel (1.5L, mechanical lifters) has been getting crankier on cold starts lately. I did a valve adjustment a few months ago to get things in spec so that shouldn't be a problem. Power and MPG is normal (42-45mpg). It's just the cold starts that are a problem. When the car sits overnight, I'll do 2-3 glow cycles when it's cold (30-40F), and I have a rudimentary 'afterglow' setup as well. But when I start it, it runs quite rough, and smokes terribly for a good 10-15 seconds. I need to keep my foot halfway down to keep it running at all until it smooths out. And for the first 30-45 seconds, it may even misfire at times. The afterglow doesn't change things, it acts the same with or with the plugs on when cold. The smoke is blueish/whitish, and smells of both engine oil and fuel, so I can't pin down what the cause is. Warm starts are fine, glow plugs are all good and verified with ohmmeter AND current draw test, and the car doesn't smoke significantly when warm. Any ideas? :-( -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate
I have heard that the cleaner petrodiesel does not lubricate the pump as well as the standard petrodiesel, introducing even a small amount of biodiesel helps to lubricate the pump and extend it's service life. The biggest problem with biodiesel is keeping it warm, I have had a heap of trouble (filters blocking) with B100 and B20 in my Nissan 4x4 and I belief that the location of the fuel filter plays a big part in how a vehicle will respond to the use of biodiesel. The fuel in the filter housing needs to be warm to hot in order for the particles in biodiesel to stay suspended. Unfortunately the local supplier of biodiesel has shut down and according to rumour will be turned into a mega convenient fuel self service place. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate Some truckers may be fighting B2, but John Deere last summer announced that they were shipping all their new tractors with B2. And Willie Nelson has been making the news regularly with his BioDiesel empire. (In Texas, yet!) Werner - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] Truckers fight biodiesel mandate The trucking industry is fighting a proposal to mandate 2% biodiesel in all diesel fuel sold in Washington state. They're concerned about poor fuel quality causing unreliability and warranty issues with engine manufacturers. Apparently a similar initiative in Minnesota resulted in widespread problems with clogged filters and gelled fuel. Article here: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/257659_biodiesel31.html My gut feeling: It's too soon to mandate this kind of thing. The biodiesel industry needs to mature to the point where it can provide a consistent, inexpensive product before anyone is required to use it. I also think wanting to subsidize local farmers is the wrong reason to do it -- but that doesn't mean there aren't valid reasons. I think it would be nice to see biodiesel offered as an alternative lubricity additive for low-sulfur fuel, for example. (The fight over the lubricity additive that *has* been mandated, and what it does to pipelines, is a whole 'nother discussion.) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/242 - Release Date: 26/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, lee wrote: What I want to know is, did he address the irresponsibility of driving a seven thousand pound, ten mile to the gallon behemoth SUV simply to go to the mall and take your kiddies to soccer practice? Every morning on my commute, i see something worse: soccer-mom types starting up the SUV, the kid hopping in, then they make the arduous trek down their ~200yd drive way and sit with the engine running waiting for the school bus.. and its not just one family! -j.
Re: [MBZ] acetone again
I'd say that most people who are willing to try this already drive fuel consciously. Yes I would agree that there will be some initial extra taking it easy type of driving, however any good study is usually conducted over a long period of time to minimise outside influences. From what I can see there has not been a proper scientific study undertaken into the effect of adding tiny amounts of acetone to petrol/gas/benzin. The whole thing does stink of snake oil but I am interested wether there is any benefit in using acetone to raise the octane level in fuel or at the least, wether acetone somehow interacts with the fuel. I would like to think that the oil companies are doing the right thing by us and producing the best quality fuel that they can. Hendrik - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] acetone again B Dike wrote: An acquaintance told me he tried it and it worked as claimed. Did he change his driving habits at all? I've seen 10-15% changes in mileage in some cars just from driving slower. If someone is testing a new fuel economy additive it's likely they'll drive more carefully for a while. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/242 - Release Date: 26/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL For sale
Send me some pics pls.
Joopster
W116 runs 3.5 6 cyl Dsl
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter T. Arnold
Sent: woensdag 1 februari 2006 22:30
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] 300SDL For sale
Let's cut to the chase.
My car is worth $5,000 I THINK
But it needs sunroof repair of $1000
Total Paint of $1000 {I'm figuring enamel here, will look good for 5 years or
so.)
So, I'll listen real hard to $3500 offer.
Car is my daily driver, sees about 500 miles a week, it is very reliable.
Uses no coolant (#14 head)
Uses about 2 qt of DELVAC! at 10,000 mile change.
Has 2 cracks in dashboard.
Has Clarion Stereo/CD/MP3 player
24mpg at 75mph.
In the past 50,000 miles I've done the following, most of it proactively due to
comments on this list.
New Radiator
New water pump.
New Glow Plugs and relay
New Vacuum pump
New lifters
Total exhaust
New 16 alloys (Tires are about gone)
Serp Belt, Shock etc about 25Kmi ago.
Front Brakes, calipers, rotors and Bilsteins about 15Kmi ago. Rears are
scheduled for this spring.
This was a southern car, paint is badly faded. Never been hit HARD, It did
have minor R/R quarter damage the was painted by someone after a long hydraulic
lunch.
If any one on this list is interested, contact me. I can deliver for expenses.
Pete, Who's best frind says he has too many toys and not enough time.
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Re: [MBZ] Idiot 4 wheeler story
Does anybody know why when people get in an accident they leave their car right where it sits? Seems like there was a time you got your car out of the road... Coming home from work the other night it was icy but the primary roads were sanded and no problem. I pulled onto a secondary road and noticed it was a bit slippery but steering was no worry. Rounding a bend heres an accident taking up ALL of my lane. I try the brakes and actually speed up. SO its time for careful modulation on the brakes, downshift and ease around the cars, both of which are sitting there running, this appeared to be a fairly minor fenderbender. but one car is sideways right across the road. Beyond that car is a cop car at an angle across the road. All the people involved are standing in the space between the cop car and the disabled car. It was pretty sketchy getting around them but I managed it and managed to get stopped. The whole manuver I was thinking that one little screw up and I'll kill all those people... I went over to the cop and told him he'd ought to move those cars dammed quick or somebody's gonna get hurt. Who are you to order me around? He demanded. I explained the situation and he said I was just a terrible driver. I got back in my car and took off, called 911 on my cell phone and explained, the dispatcher said she'd see what she could do. I read in the paper the next day that there was another accident but everybody had gotten into the patrol car before it happened so nobody was seriously injured. -Curt Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:51:31 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trucking Industry the Saga continues To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed so lets here some of those idiot 4 wheeler driver stories. I always love those. - Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 02 12:35:33 2006 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.205]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F4dgT-0007G0-Af for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:35:33 + Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id m7so412297nzf for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 04:35:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=S4xH010Mcg4GDg93qgQ6JsReNVcrzAvZgrgsgsYXAQXZ1ZjBDX/xpkiAZ94trAIoQpRfpmeDSqVuJzPeNLFsaE74pPffQ8tg/H5/TWseaaSz4+45VFR/4mEEtFA4dzgyktHDQ7RxWnzk/c8qlqF0Xi9URXsXAb8pu6kpFOUsMbs= Received: by 10.65.237.5 with SMTP id o5mr300336qbr; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 04:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.194.13 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 04:35:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 07:35:31 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Idiot 4 wheeler story X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:35:33 - Yeah, I've heard that you're not supposed to move the vehicles after an accident as that's evidence for the police to use to help determine what really happened in the accident. You've got to know who to blame for insurance and lawsuits and such you know... Levi On 2/2/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know why when people get in an accident they leave their car right where it sits? Seems like there was a time you got your car out of = the road... Coming home from work the other night it was icy but the primary roads were sanded and no problem. I pulled onto a secondary road and noticed it was a bit slippery but steering was no worry. Rounding a bend heres an accident taking up ALL of my lane. I try the brakes and actually speed up= . SO its time for careful modulation on the brakes, downshift and ease arou= nd the cars, both of which are sitting there running, this
Re: [MBZ] Idiot 4 wheeler story
Curt Raymond wrote: I read in the paper the next day that there was another accident but everybody had gotten into the patrol car before it happened so nobody was seriously injured. Write a letter to the editor of said paper. Explain your efforts to prevent the 2nd crash, and the police department's callous disregard. From a legal standpoint, it may be valuable to preserve the cars' positions as evidence until the cops get there. Then every effort should be made to clear up the scene, unless a fatality has occurred and serious investigation and measuring is needed. (in that case, they will close the road while they process the scene)
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol
Interesting. I run the 10% ethanol in all of my non-diesels (including in my motorcycle) and have had no problems. But I do live in Iowa. On 2/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found that ethanol in fuel is garbage, I put a tank full of ethanol blend into the 230E and it hated it, fuel mileage went down as well. No wonder our friends the oil companies are pushing for an ethanol blend, worse mileage equals more fuel sold. Maybe fifteen years ago 10% ethanol was mandated in certain zip codes in the winter months in western Washington. After EPA air quality requirements were met, ethanol went away, thank God. It is true that mileage drops 10% which was proven to me, tank after tank. It's hard to measure performance except to say that it was noticeably down. Which means, obviously, that monthly fuel cost went up 10%. My Porsche isn't driven much and so I didn't want ethanol in the tank all winter, so I gassed it up in late September which I made last until normal gas was again available in about March. Maybe April. The main benefactors turn out to be ADM Corp. plus the Iowa corn farmers. RLE/Seattle ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post...
I can't seem to remember how I fell in with this bunch of misfits (I'm getting old too). I joined MBCA when Kathy was President and dropped out when the politics got unbearable. I think I just stumbled into this list on the Internet. Although I am without an M-B at the moment, I still enjoy the list. I can keep tabs on you characters, and maybe I will find my Benz before Kaleb snatches it up. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post... It must have been '96 or '97 or so when I joined the local MBCA chapter. They had a scavenger hunt outing at the Barrett Jackson Aution (before it was crazy expensive to get near it). Boy child and I went, kicked booty on the scavenger hunt (filling out info on MB stuff at the auction) and then went out to eat with the club oldesters. At some point during the night, someone was talking about how the guys with older cars (they all had wicked new ones, of course) are talking on that new fangled internet thing and someone gave me Kathy Kennels phone number. I called her the next day and she hooked me up. I seem to remember...in those days it was Herr Doktor Booth, Kathy, Dan Penoff, Walt Lasher, RE, etc...but I could be making that up...I've slept several times since then. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 148K '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 6:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] speaking of LT don and his recent post... Would be interesting to find out how people came to be on this list(or the previous mbz.org) I will start, I was lead to the RE and MBCA list by Diann Quinn from Chicago(wisonsin maybe), signed up. Was on the MBCA list till it was canned by the high and mighty at the home office. Later kicked off the RE list and was a founding charter memember of mbz.org in 98(or was it 99?) Anyway, thats my story. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
