[MBZ] My Clutch ...
Last week, my 190E clutch release bearing noise changed from a 'a bit squeaky in the morning' to a full-blooded scream every time I changed gear I suspected that the bearing had seized-up Here's what my local MB dealer found when they changed the whole clutch - sorry for the appalling picture quality, but I'm sure you'll get the idea ! http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/42c5c881_4b02/bc/My+Documents/clutch.jpg?bfWR88 DBGeWBFgwG They took pictures because they'd never seen one quite as bad - but not bad for almost 150 000 miles Howard Fulford Bath England 190E '89, 137982 miles
Re: [MBZ] Bad thermostat
On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 05:54 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: On the way to work this morning in heavy stop and go traffic the temp gauge on the 190D dropped to 60C. Heater output dropped correspondingly. Seems to me like I've got a sticky thermostat. That stinks, its a new thermostat last month. What kind of stuff could make a thermostat stick open? I've had 'em stick closed when using bars leaks and stuff but never had one stick open... I'll have my Indy change coolant when he does the thermostat this time. -Curt I found a ball of aluminum in a stuck open thermostat. Looked like casting slag. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
[MBZ] 124 rear defrost timer
Johnny wrote, .may take more effort to modify system than running new wire. But I didn't know that 'til Marshall 'splained the timer. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
On 2/15/06 7:14 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somewhere in OK. Show up and don't embarrass yourself so bad that you won't want to go again next year (or something like that). Bring coveralls and hand cleaner so you can help Kaleb dismantle some old MB. Watch out for Regina (if you aren't on Banned you should be - will help if you go to OK.) The Okie Q is NEVER as good as the original Rusty Q.
Re: [MBZ] Okie Q
Yea, Donald. You can drive a gasser -- Mitch had one last year. Just don't pass out any business cards, ok? On 2/15/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Wrote: 0kieQ is a blast - everyone on the list is invited to get together at the moderators place in Claremore, OK and we do Benz related stuff and non benz related stuff (although the beer I brought was German...sort of benzish). Now when you say everyone you don't mean even lawyers who drive gasser benzes? Do you? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 125K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Okie Q
That was the Great Archaic Server Giveaway -- only individuals named Don were allowed to haul away a server. In the end, OK Don ended up with everything anyway. On 2/15/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the first things goiing on Saturday morning was all the Linux people unloading computers from their trunks - no idea what was going on...ask Luther. -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] WAS A New Toy - Compression testing??
On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 08:11 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Anything else I should have on hand? I have never had an injector out so I have very little idea as to what I have to do. Car is in the garage under the cover since November 1 and its cold here right now so I don't plan to look under the hood today. The injector lines are pipe. Is there any sort of replacable seal/o-ring??? or whatever that will need to be changed too or is it a compression type fitting? No idea what the locals will have around here so would like to ensure I have whatever I will need on hand before giving this a whirl. Randy B A 27mm or 1 1/16 deep socket with good internal clearance way up to clear the return nipples. Maybe a small magnet or hooked pick to pull the heat shields out. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Exploding Glowplugs
On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 06:32 PM, V Layton wrote: I just got a call from a client with a problem I've NEVER, EVER heard of (until now) I wonder if they ever gave it a shot of ether with the new GPs in. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
I didn't drive the longest distance, but did hold the record for the most hours w/out sleep while attending. (Was up all day after having about four hours sleep the previous night, then drove thru the night to OkieLand, and then did the OkieQ -- all w/out my head hitting a pillow. That is why I look like Lurch in the OkieQ 2005 pics.) On 2/15/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alsowho drove the greatest distance to attend last year? -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
And Luther even fell in love! On 2/15/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh and the food spread was AWESOME!!! -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear defrost timer
On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 07:08 PM, wilton strickland wrote: Johnny wrote, .may take more effort to modify system than running new wire. But I didn't know that 'til Marshall 'splained the timer. Wilton I'm sure you'll come up with something. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] yes it's likely it's the only 23 year old benz on the hill
Ah, well *I* needed a vehicle that I could: a) deposit wet/sandy german shepherd in. b) allow very bright wet german shepherd to pull up door locks with her teeth (how she learned that trick I don't know). c) I would not freak if red neck in truck backs into it in the snowy/ icy parking lot. Steps (a) and (b) were unavoidable, (c) never happened. On 15-Feb-06, at 4:56 AM, Sunil Hari wrote: and your wife let you take her in the wagon with 320K Km instead of the one with half? How? John 1983 300TDt 362k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 160k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
Looks like its going to be either june 17 or 24. That was the 2 dates approved by SWMBO. I was planning on posting someting to see which would work better for folks. Better speak up now, ASAP, will be setting the date by the end of the week, if not sooner. Bob Rentfro wrote: Hey Kaleb Any ideas when Okie Q will be this year? Need to get my vacation in at the old nuke plant. Alsowho drove the greatest distance to attend last year? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 149K '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Test
you failed, BT Dave Wakin wrote: I know I am setting myself up for the ol pass or fail response, but I wanted to make sure my new email address works. Feel free to BZZ Dave W ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Test
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Lets all join together in praising the great Gabriel. Dave Wakin wrote: Looks like I passed... Guess as long as my email doesn't contain Gabriel in it, Kaleb lets it through. Still trying to figure out, since Gabriel was sooo smart, why he would use his name in the yahoo address and try to re-subscribe. I guess [EMAIL PROTECTED] was already taken. Dave W Looks like it's working.at least it got here. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
Its in Claremore, OK, a weekend full of festivities. You must pay me $17k to attend :) MICHAEL ESH wrote: What and where is Okie Q? And what are the stipulations if any on attending? - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:53 AM Subject: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates? Hey Kaleb Any ideas when Okie Q will be this year? Need to get my vacation in at the old nuke plant. Alsowho drove the greatest distance to attend last year? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 149K '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
As far as I know, either date works equally well for me. Going to bring Gene again, Debbie, and hopefully the other brother, Jeff, better known as my mechanic.
Re: [MBZ] Okie Q
of course gas filled, uhh, driving lawyers can come Donald Snook wrote: Chris Wrote: 0kieQ is a blast - everyone on the list is invited to get together at the moderators place in Claremore, OK and we do Benz related stuff and non benz related stuff (although the beer I brought was German...sort of benzish). Now when you say everyone you don't mean even lawyers who drive gasser benzes? Do you? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 125K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Okie Q
yea, darn it, I never did get a computer out of that deal. Somehow I got screwed. Christopher McCann wrote: of course! We are a very diverse group. Seriously, all kinds of different people. One of the first things goiing on Saturday morning was all the Linux people unloading computers from their trunks - no idea what was going on...ask Luther. Chris Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Wrote: 0kieQ is a blast - everyone on the list is invited to get together at the moderators place in Claremore, OK and we do Benz related stuff and non benz related stuff (although the beer I brought was German...sort of benzish). Now when you say everyone you don't mean even lawyers who drive gasser benzes? Do you? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 125K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] My Clutch ...
wont pull up for me. I have a 240D with that problem. Howard Fulford wrote: Last week, my 190E clutch release bearing noise changed from a 'a bit squeaky in the morning' to a full-blooded scream every time I changed gear I suspected that the bearing had seized-up Here's what my local MB dealer found when they changed the whole clutch - sorry for the appalling picture quality, but I'm sure you'll get the idea ! http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/42c5c881_4b02/bc/My+Documents/clutch.jpg?bfWR88 DBGeWBFgwG They took pictures because they'd never seen one quite as bad - but not bad for almost 150 000 miles Howard Fulford Bath England 190E '89, 137982 miles ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
Then dont bother showing up derail. George Gregory wrote: On 2/15/06 7:14 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somewhere in OK. Show up and don't embarrass yourself so bad that you won't want to go again next year (or something like that). Bring coveralls and hand cleaner so you can help Kaleb dismantle some old MB. Watch out for Regina (if you aren't on Banned you should be - will help if you go to OK.) The Okie Q is NEVER as good as the original Rusty Q. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
so how is it going to be this year, if you show up? Did your nefew or whoever buy that 400E? LT Don wrote: I didn't drive the longest distance, but did hold the record for the most hours w/out sleep while attending. (Was up all day after having about four hours sleep the previous night, then drove thru the night to OkieLand, and then did the OkieQ -- all w/out my head hitting a pillow. That is why I look like Lurch in the OkieQ 2005 pics.) On 2/15/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alsowho drove the greatest distance to attend last year? -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
Has he ever? Ok, maybe at #1, the one that had to miss. On 2/15/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then dont bother showing up derail. -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
[MBZ] [Fwd: Fw: Open Season in Texas]
Open Season in Texas -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: HuntingInvitation.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 29731 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060215/963e6783/HuntingInvitation.jpg
[MBZ] (no subject)
Fed Ex just left me a wonderful package. Inside were all the little bits Rusty sent so that Gump could be back on the road. I think I will spend the frozen day tomorrow installing the pan. I did have one problem. For some reason I am not able to get the drain plug that came with the pan installed. Has there been an upgrade to either the pan or the bolt in the past such that maybe the old bolts are too large for the new pans, or the new pans are too tight for old model bolts. This bolt just seems too large to fit the tiny hole, and IIRC the original pan had a much larger plug that was hex keyed. Part number on the bolt is 1 111-997-03-30. Did I order the wrong thing? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
Nope. Guy decided to hang on to it, I think. He is still watching the ForSale stuff in the DSM Register, waiting for that perfect Benz to fall into his lap. On 2/15/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so how is it going to be this year, if you show up? Did your nefew or whoever buy that 400E? -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
He showed up at the first one I think, ate everything in site. Then a couple of years later after that wizbanned thing he just complained how the okieq sucked at toads event was great. I guess thats true if you like to stand around and drink beer and eat brauts. Fortunatly, we have a much wider selection of food and drink. Thinking about setting up a do not invite list for this year. LT Don wrote: Has he ever? Ok, maybe at #1, the one that had to miss. On 2/15/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then dont bother showing up derail. -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Okie Q
oh boy. LT Don wrote: Actually, if I remember correctly, you didn't for a few weeks after the Q. I will bring you a built Linux system if you have something to offer in trade. On 2/15/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea, darn it, I never did get a computer out of that deal. Somehow I got screwed. -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
I have a nice euro 280SE LT Don wrote: Nope. Guy decided to hang on to it, I think. He is still watching the ForSale stuff in the DSM Register, waiting for that perfect Benz to fall into his lap. On 2/15/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so how is it going to be this year, if you show up? Did your nefew or whoever buy that 400E? -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Exploding Glowplugs
I have never heard of this with the smaller GPs. In 93 when we were moving from HI to IA we were driving the diesel escort and the 200D (OM 621) from Seattle to IA. Both were fully loaded/overloaded. Going over the mountains somewhere, I had the guts of a GP blow out. It was weird as all get out. A huge bang, and then terrific noise until I got the engine shut down. I had a suspicion what it was before i confirmed it, because years ago my dad had a old Ford F-500 that averaged 2000 miles to the engine. One or two of the engines had a habit of blowing out the right rear spark plug with a huge bang and a terrible racket like a broken crank or a broken rod. On this engine, I had the pencil type conversion for the Large body plugs. The center had blown out clean. I never found any reason that it happened. I already knew the engine probably had cracked rings. I think it was #3. On OM 621, #3 seems to always be a problem. Most of the loop and pencil type plugs seem to fail at #3 position. I changed it on the roadside. After we got to Iowa we parked it until we confirmed the compression problem and converted it to a 616 engine. I have never heard of repeated glow plug blowouts. The guess of a relay problem sounds reasonable to me. At 05:32 PM 2/15/2006, you wrote: I just got a call from a client with a problem I've NEVER, EVER heard of (until now) Subject: 1981 240D non-US version On a recent road trip, they experienced a loud bang and witnessed an oil pressure drop, so they wisely pulled off and shut the motor down. () Car was also running very rough after this. Looking at the motor, they found one of the glow plugs had shot it's guts out of the retaining collar, and showed oil. They had replaced the glowplugs recently (Bocsh, without using a chamber reamer) and so happened to have the old plugs with them, so they replaced it, which temporarily cured the problems. During the rest of the trip home, it happened 3 MORE times, from a total of 3 cylinders, one twice, using up the 3 remaining plugs. The new replacement plugs that were in there were left only with the threaded collar that mates to the engine's glow plug hole threads, as if it were removed and drilled out. No in-motor element was found, no threaded tip the wire harness connects to. (I guess it was still bolted to the wire) Now the car won't start. They haven't used any ether. Wild huh? Could this be a results of a failing glow plug relay in the way that it does't shut the power down to the plugs, thus overcooking the daylights out of them, or result of unremoved carbon shorting them out into short life with the same results? I'm looking for experiences or theories behind this unusual event, I have not yet been able to test the relay operation. I'm worried about pre-chamber damage, plug elements floating around in the motor, and the oil leaking from the plug holes. Any ideas? Thanks. Vince _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Fw: Open Season in Texas]
I'm surprised Bill hasn't done a vince foster on her already! YUK! At 07:17 PM 2/15/2006, you wrote: Open Season in Texas -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: HuntingInvitation.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 29731 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060215/963e6783/HuntingInvitation.jpg ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '92 300D 2.5 Turbo
Howdy -
I'm going to buy the 300D I wrote for your opinion about. I considered
buying Donald Snook's but dragged my feet and missed out. This one seems
very nice and sounds like it'll be head shoulders above my 240D - it'll be
for my wife to commute to work in - 55 mi each way. We'll need to add a CD
player but that's a small thing. She likes driving the 240D but the noise
and lack of acceleration is something she would want to avoid in our next
purchase.
One thing, we'll be driving it back about 300 miles and I need to put a list
of spares and tools to take for the pickup.
here's what I'm starting at:
fuel filters
belts
Now I'm lost -
what do I need to carry just in case? I'm pretty mechanical (rebuilt my
240D engine) but working alongside the interstate is not my cup o tea. I'd
probably call 1-800 Mercedes for help for most things. But, I may be in a
position to fix some stuff. What should I carry with us??
TIA -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D, 92 300D 2.5- soon)
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Re: [MBZ] '92 300D 2.5 Turbo
spare fuses, bottle of diesel purge, pantyhose to tie together a split
radiator hose...that's all i can think of.
On 2/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Howdy -
I'm going to buy the 300D I wrote for your opinion about. I considered
buying Donald Snook's but dragged my feet and missed out. This one seems
very nice and sounds like it'll be head shoulders above my 240D - it'll
be
for my wife to commute to work in - 55 mi each way. We'll need to add a
CD
player but that's a small thing. She likes driving the 240D but the noise
and lack of acceleration is something she would want to avoid in our next
purchase.
One thing, we'll be driving it back about 300 miles and I need to put a
list
of spares and tools to take for the pickup.
here's what I'm starting at:
fuel filters
belts
Now I'm lost -
what do I need to carry just in case? I'm pretty mechanical (rebuilt my
240D engine) but working alongside the interstate is not my cup o
tea. I'd
probably call 1-800 Mercedes for help for most things. But, I may be in a
position to fix some stuff. What should I carry with us??
TIA -
Sincerely,
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Re: [MBZ] 190D slush-to-stick progress report
My 190D had the same problem rust-wise. Muffler shops I contacted weren't interested in repairing, said it would be too expensive. Told me that a new pipe was available and quoted that price at something like $200 installed. This would be a drop-off kind of proposition, they'd do it I'm sure. Same place that fabbed the pieces for the genset's exhaust system. I'd do it entirely myself except I don't have the requisite pipe bender. Needless to say, rusty beat that - think the part arrived kaleb style (pipe with a shipping label) on my porch for around fifty bucks. That doesn't sound too bad. If I can't frankenstein together the two exhaust systems I already have maybe I'll go that way. More progress: ...Later today I went back out and finished removing the transmission. Harder than it looked, there were _four_ bolts left, not two, and I managed to break off the throttle cable attachment. The 2-foot socket extensions and the swivel joint were, as before, instrumental in getting all the bolts out. Also as before, my CCPOS transmission jack is too tall, and the tranny was trapped beneath the car. But with enough fooling around, and partial disassembly of the jack's cradle, I was able to get it wrestled to the ground. Of interest is that this is a _used_ transmission, both it and the torque converter have grease paint numbers scrawled on them. Obviously it didn't hold up too well. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear defroster timer
Is it the challenge of getting it to multi-task? For me, absolutely! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
See? You shoulda bought my 220 with a good pan and plenty of spare parts to keep Gumpy going for a while! Actually, I've begun diagnosing the no start problem with this new-to-me 220D. The VC is off now so I'll be able to tell if the valves are opening and closing as they should. Kevin in HIllsboro Oregon 1973 220D, Gump's medically challenged younger sister
Re: [MBZ] 603 IP, smoking and starting
Marshall, thanks for your input. There certainly could be other factors. I had changed glow plugs, timing chain, valve seals, fuel filters, battery, starter and probably a few other things with no change. Many of these were changed for other reasons, but some were changed to chase the starting problem. I really thought going from a 300K chain to a new chain would make a difference, but it made none. I even tried a visual GP inspection with the injectors removed. All the glow plugs lit up evenly and went to white hot. Mine would start firing, probably on the third compression stroke, but run very rough. It acted like it was starved for fuel, but all the fuel system seemed to check out. When I pulled out the pin for the purple wire, it made more difference than anything else did, but it did not cure the problem. In my case, pulling the purple wire did make a difference in smoking and it also helped with the low power and rough running. Even in 20 below weather, my 603 has always started even without the heater plugged in. In below zero weather it was hard to keep it running when first started. It would start just fine, then loose power, and seemed to run on 3, 4, or 5 cylinders, then gradually pick up the weak cylinders. Remember this engine tested out to 425 PSI compression on all cylinders. When i replaced the o-rings, two broke when taking them off and one was severely eroded for about 1/3 of the diameter. This is consistent with missing on 1-3 cylinders depending on conditions. Marshall, I am so impressed with the result of this operation, I am willing to wager that your TD will start on the first compression stroke also after you change o-rings, seals and delivery valve springs. Dave, I will keep you posted. The next two day should be telling as we go back in the deepfreeze. I told Rusty tonight that I am pushing o-rings springs and copper seals for him! He sure won't get rich selling these parts! Loren At 04:24 PM 2/15/2006, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: Several of us over the years have encountered slow starts when cold (Below zero or below freezing cold starts). This is accompanied by clouds of smoke and rough running and low rpm even whit the pedal floored. In the case of my SDL, it got worse over time, with the onset at warmer temps each winter. I consulted the list and was told to disconnect or cut the purple wire to the Glow relay to make a low budget afterglow system. I have been meaning to replace the o-rings on the IP delivery valves for quite a while. I finally did the job and wanted to pass on the results. John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] did a nice write-up for the 606 engine, and most of it also applies to the 603. Marshall added a caution to the write-up. I did it without removing the intake manifold, 603. I did remove the air pipe form the turbo to the intake manifold. Take loose Inj line clips at the bolts. Push the back 3 lines aside, but don't try to remove them from the manifold with the unbolted holders still clipped to the line. The front 3 lines come out with the clip as a unit. Since I replaced all the plastic clips about a year ago, i didn't want to disturb them. As per the write-up, I replaced the copper seals, the o-rings and the Delivery valve springs. I did loose a couple of the old springs on disassembly, but did not drop any of the new ones. I took out all the valve bodies, cleaned up the IP top again , and cleaned the valve bodies after taking off the o-rings. As a matter of habit, I keep everything in order so it goes back in the same position. Reassembly was easy. I used the spring to center the valve and the copper ring in the IP body, then carefully lowered the body over it. I screwed the body in by hand. The o-rings should seat while turning it in by hand. I then backed it out a sisth of a turn or so and retightened them a couple of times by hand to seat the o-rings. I repeated this for each delivery valve. When they were all in, then I tightened, loosened, tightened, loosened, and then tightened to final torque. I stayed just below the torque spec. This procedure is similar for older 4 cyl IP delivery valves. After getting everything back together and getting the air bled out. it started and I had no knocks. THE END RESULT: The car starts instantaneously. No smoking when cold. I am convinced I can plug the purple wire back in again. This will prolong the GP life It is supposed to be getting very cold in the next few nights, So i will see how it goes. If you have a 603 and smoking or rough running on low temp cold starts I'd highly recommend changing the Delivery valve o-rings. I intend to do it on the TD as soon as I can. Hope this is helpful Plan to do trans diagnosis on the 88 TE this weekend. Your results are interesting, but when I add my result to them, I'm not sure there is just ONE answer. The delivery valve
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D
I got 32mpg at 75-80 on my last 200 mile trip in the '90 300D 2.5
turbo. I think my 300SDL might be a little quiter, but not much. It is
MUCH faster than the 240D, and considerably quiter. The 300D 2.5 is
the ONLY diesel that my wife likes, FWIW ---
On 2/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you wrote:if you don't want it to sound like a diesel, just buy one that
runs on gasoline!
Good point! Unfortunately this would be my wifes primary transport and
she's been spoiled by our Camry. It's so quiet at idle we often wonder if
it's even running!
See? I take the easy way out - blame it on my wife!
;-)
Sincerely,
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Re: [MBZ] Exploding Glowplugs
The oil coming out is a concern. I would speculate that it could be diesel fuel mixing with carbon and looking black like motor oil. If it is motor oil indeed, then there is a serious problem. crack, hole in piston or a really bad score on the cylinder. Diesel fuel mixed with carbon soot is not a concern, as the fuel will be burned in normal combustion. I think i had that on my 200D that had a plug blowout. It was 12 years ago so the memory is not clear. Shipping the cars and some household stuff, the trip across country and coming to Iowa right after the great flood were more memorable. At 05:32 PM 2/15/2006, you wrote: I just got a call from a client with a problem I've NEVER, EVER heard of (until now) Subject: 1981 240D non-US version On a recent road trip, they experienced a loud bang and witnessed an oil pressure drop, so they wisely pulled off and shut the motor down. () Car was also running very rough after this. Looking at the motor, they found one of the glow plugs had shot it's guts out of the retaining collar, and showed oil. They had replaced the glowplugs recently (Bocsh, without using a chamber reamer) and so happened to have the old plugs with them, so they replaced it, which temporarily cured the problems. During the rest of the trip home, it happened 3 MORE times, from a total of 3 cylinders, one twice, using up the 3 remaining plugs. The new replacement plugs that were in there were left only with the threaded collar that mates to the engine's glow plug hole threads, as if it were removed and drilled out. No in-motor element was found, no threaded tip the wire harness connects to. (I guess it was still bolted to the wire) Now the car won't start. They haven't used any ether. Wild huh? Could this be a results of a failing glow plug relay in the way that it does't shut the power down to the plugs, thus overcooking the daylights out of them, or result of unremoved carbon shorting them out into short life with the same results? I'm looking for experiences or theories behind this unusual event, I have not yet been able to test the relay operation. I'm worried about pre-chamber damage, plug elements floating around in the motor, and the oil leaking from the plug holes. Any ideas? Thanks. Vince _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Okie Q
Stop by next time you're in this neck of the woods, and I'll give you one --- On 2/15/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea, darn it, I never did get a computer out of that deal. Somehow I got screwed. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] 603 IP, smoking and starting
Loren Faeth wrote: Marshall, thanks for your input. There certainly could be other factors. I had changed glow plugs, timing chain, valve seals, fuel filters, battery, starter and probably a few other things with no change. Many of these were changed for other reasons, but some were changed to chase the starting problem. I really thought going from a 300K chain to a new chain would make a difference, but it made none. I even tried a visual GP inspection with the injectors removed. All the glow plugs lit up evenly and went to white hot. Mine would start firing, probably on the third compression stroke, but run very rough. It acted like it was starved for fuel, but all the fuel system seemed to check out. When I pulled out the pin for the purple wire, it made more difference than anything else did, but it did not cure the problem. In my case, pulling the purple wire did make a difference in smoking and it also helped with the low power and rough running. Even in 20 below weather, my 603 has always started even without the heater plugged in. In below zero weather it was hard to keep it running when first started. It would start just fine, then loose power, and seemed to run on 3, 4, or 5 cylinders, then gradually pick up the weak cylinders. Remember this engine tested out to 425 PSI compression on all cylinders. When i replaced the o-rings, two broke when taking them off and one was severely eroded for about 1/3 of the diameter. This is consistent with missing on 1-3 cylinders depending on conditions. Marshall, I am so impressed with the result of this operation, I am willing to wager that your TD will start on the first compression stroke also after you change o-rings, seals and delivery valve springs. If the O rings deteriorate, fuel flows out of the pump (I have had this happen several times on my cars and have seen it on a dozen others) and onto the ground (or onto the under engine shields). I've seen little influence of O ring failures on the engine starting or power (don't recall ever noticing any effect in really cold weather - I never allowed the pump to leak for more than a few days or weeks at most) although I expect some effect could be measured. Fuel economy drops a LOT as fuel runs across the top down the side of the pump! The O rings either seal so the fuel can't escape to the outside or they don't. If they don't permit fuel to flow out, there should be NO further influence on the operation of the engine. I feel sure that the major improvement in starting you see (providing the O rings didn't allow fuel to flow onto the surface of the pump) resulted from replacing the copper delivery valve seals. If this holds up, you have defined a test for delivery valve seal function. There really is NO test except to put the injection pump on a test stand. In the past, the procedure was usually to check out everything and if everything else is fine - then replace the delivery valve seals. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Bad thermostat
Curt Raymond wrote: On the way to work this morning in heavy stop and go traffic the temp gauge on the 190D dropped to 60C. Heater output dropped correspondingly. Seems to me like I've got a sticky thermostat. That stinks, its a new thermostat last month. What kind of stuff could make a thermostat stick open? I've had 'em stick closed when using bars leaks and stuff but never had one stick open... I'll have my Indy change coolant when he does the thermostat this time. Aftermarket thermostats have a poor history of out of the box failures. Factory thermostats are about twice as good, but bad ones are still not uncommon (maybe 5-10%). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Big Discounts
The Seattle ArchDiocese has a scrip program where the schools get a cut of the store gift cards sold. They recently decided that Wally World and Sam's was bad for God and the world and will no longer do business there. Wonder if enough church elders decided Wally was bad, if it would impact the company. Seems the head of the Washington state legislature wanted to stay in Wally's pocket and killed the bill to make large employers foot the medical insurance bill more. Direct response to the $12million spent in state funds to support Wally. Really has the labor arm of the party uproared. On Tuesday, February 14, 2006, at 12:09 PM, Dave M. wrote: Speaking of increased sales volume, compared to reduced margins, here is a very interesting story of a CEO who decided *not* to continue doing business with Mall-Wart. It's quite long, but I found it fascinating... click the link below. The Man Who Said No to Wal-Mart Every year, thousands of executives venture to Bentonville, Arkansas, hoping to get their products onto the shelves of the world's biggest retailer. But Jim Wier wanted Wal-Mart to stop selling his Snapper mowers. http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/102/open_snapper.html -- Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:58:19 -0600 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big Discounts It would certainly increase volume, wouldn't it? On 2/14/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That might not work. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big Discounts and 120 % off all orders over $1500?? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Cheney Good, Guns Good
This end of the Rockies Dems are in turmoil because they can not get solidarity, just devolving into a splintered mess. I doubt any Clinton will be headed to the White House until Chelsea marries a Republican On Tuesday, February 14, 2006, at 07:06 PM, LT Don wrote: Mom told me several years ago that she respects what John does, but sure hoped he wouldn't have to take a bullet for Clinton. I'd express my own opinion of that but don't know if USSS is monitoring this channel or BUSH not. :-) Hopefully in a few years he can guard another Clinton. About time for the PMS group to sit in the Oval Office. On 2/15/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stop, drop and roll. On 2/14/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guess he does this a lot, and the USSS always makes sure to stay on the non-lethal end of the shotgun! Must be training that TX attorneys don't receive. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (210k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
I'll have to pass - we'll either be in CO or returning --- On 2/15/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like its going to be either june 17 or 24. That was the 2 dates approved by SWMBO. I was planning on posting someting to see which would work better for folks. Better speak up now, ASAP, will be setting the date by the end of the week, if not sooner. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
[MBZ] vegetable oil as a fuel
I have a partially filled five gallon container of what appears to be vegetable oil. I also have an 82 240D. Questions: 1. Assuming it is a reasonably warm day, can I run this through the engine straight? I am thinking of putting it into a gas can under the hood, and having it sucked out of the can instead of from the line coming from the fuel tank. 2. Will the car run if I do this? 3. At what temperature would it be too cold to do this? 4. Is it a problem if the oil looks ok, but is rancid? 5. If doing this straight is not a good idea, how much should it be diluted? 6. Is it ok to allow the line to return to the tank? Which fuel line takes it back to the tank? Where do I disconnect that line to avoid having any of this go to my tank? 7. What do I tell my wife?
Re: [MBZ] vegetable oil as a fuel
Jerry Herrman wrote: I have a partially filled five gallon container of what appears to be vegetable oil. I also have an 82 240D. Questions: 1. Assuming it is a reasonably warm day, can I run this through the engine straight? I am thinking of putting it into a gas can under the hood, and having it sucked out of the can instead of from the line coming from the fuel tank. 2. Will the car run if I do this? 3. At what temperature would it be too cold to do this? 4. Is it a problem if the oil looks ok, but is rancid? 5. If doing this straight is not a good idea, how much should it be diluted? 6. Is it ok to allow the line to return to the tank? Which fuel line takes it back to the tank? Where do I disconnect that line to avoid having any of this go to my tank? 7. What do I tell my wife? Have you forgotten to take your meds? Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] '92 300D 2.5 Turbo
Fuel return lines love to give up the ghost at the most inopportune moments. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (210k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
OK Don wrote: i had to replace a pan in my 220D - years ago, and I seem to remember that the original pan had the large drain bolt with the hex key, and the new one had the smaller bolt -- don't remember how I got the new bolt though -- I replaced the original pan because someone had cross threaded the large bolt (dont' ask me how) --- More than a few Mercedes engines came with DIFFERENT sized drain plugs (M-14 or M-12) and the only way to tell is look and measure them. I've had 601 engines with both sized plugs, but I believe that OM61x engines all have M-12 plugs. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Marshall Booth wrote:
More than a few Mercedes engines came with DIFFERENT sized drain plugs
(M-14 or M-12) and the only way to tell is look and measure them. I've
had 601 engines with both sized plugs, but I believe that OM61x engines
all have M-12 plugs.
Marshall
Meant to say all RECENT ('80+) OM61x engines have M-12 plugs. Not sure
about earlier ones. Sorry!
Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] vegetable oil as a fuel
1. There is a place on the back right side of the car, a little door with a round thing behind it. Open the door, twist the round thing off, and pour the oil into the hole there, unless #3 is operative. Then put the round thing back on and close the door then drive the car. 2. When diesel was $3+ a few months back I got a 5g jug of vegoil at Sams and poured it in the tank that was maybe half full. The car ran fine, quieter, and the exhaust smelled better. It seems no worse for the experience and I felt virtuous passing Priuses. 3. If the stuff won't pour out of the jug it is probably too cold. See #1 4. I knew a girl like that once, but won't get into details 5. Go to a sheep ranch near a mountain and ask one of the sheepboys there for an alternative opinion 6. See #1 7. If you have to ask that question, see #5 --R Jerry Herrman wrote: I have a partially filled five gallon container of what appears to be vegetable oil. I also have an 82 240D. Questions: 1. Assuming it is a reasonably warm day, can I run this through the engine straight? I am thinking of putting it into a gas can under the hood, and having it sucked out of the can instead of from the line coming from the fuel tank. 2. Will the car run if I do this? 3. At what temperature would it be too cold to do this? 4. Is it a problem if the oil looks ok, but is rancid? 5. If doing this straight is not a good idea, how much should it be diluted? 6. Is it ok to allow the line to return to the tank? Which fuel line takes it back to the tank? Where do I disconnect that line to avoid having any of this go to my tank? 7. What do I tell my wife? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Hey look, he replied twice to an unsubjected post.
--R
Marshall Booth wrote:
Marshall Booth wrote:
More than a few Mercedes engines came with DIFFERENT sized drain plugs
(M-14 or M-12) and the only way to tell is look and measure them. I've
had 601 engines with both sized plugs, but I believe that OM61x engines
all have M-12 plugs.
Marshall
Meant to say all RECENT ('80+) OM61x engines have M-12 plugs. Not sure
about earlier ones. Sorry!
Marshall
Re: [MBZ] pan plug
Just confused why I am not able to make the bolt fit. I guess I can find one at NAPA (plug) since I would like to get her running sooner rather than letting the present cold spell stop her and freeze her guts. If I had taken lil' sis off your hands, then what would you be doing? What kind of sick person would I be to deprive you of a chance to play doctor? Have you been able to turn the crank to see the cams moving the valves? You did say it was getting fuel from the IP. Possible gummed up injectors? Glow does not glow at all, or just crank it and nothing happens? On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 06:00 PM, kevin kraly wrote: See? You shoulda bought my 220 with a good pan and plenty of spare parts to keep Gumpy going for a while! Actually, I've begun diagnosing the no start problem with this new-to-me 220D. The VC is off now so I'll be able to tell if the valves are opening and closing as they should. Kevin in HIllsboro Oregon 1973 220D, Gump's medically challenged younger sister -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Pan Plug
yep, that huge drain plug is what ripped out of Gump. Must have been some goon in SF pulled the wrong size plug for the package that Rusty had sent out. I know it was not a mistake on his end. On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 08:05 PM, OK Don wrote: i had to replace a pan in my 220D - years ago, and I seem to remember that the original pan had the large drain bolt with the hex key, and the new one had the smaller bolt -- don't remember how I got the new bolt though -- I replaced the original pan because someone had cross threaded the large bolt (dont' ask me how) --- On 2/15/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fed Ex just left me a wonderful package. Inside were all the little bits Rusty sent so that Gump could be back on the road. I think I will spend the frozen day tomorrow installing the pan. I did have one problem. For some reason I am not able to get the drain plug that came with the pan installed. Has there been an upgrade to either the pan or the bolt in the past such that maybe the old bolts are too large for the new pans, or the new pans are too tight for old model bolts. This bolt just seems too large to fit the tiny hole, and IIRC the original pan had a much larger plug that was hex keyed. Part number on the bolt is 1 111-997-03-30. Did I order the wrong thing? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] pan plug
So it could just be a parts pull issue and there is a chance I get another pan and this bolt will fit. The way I drive, that might just happen On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 08:20 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: OK Don wrote: i had to replace a pan in my 220D - years ago, and I seem to remember that the original pan had the large drain bolt with the hex key, and the new one had the smaller bolt -- don't remember how I got the new bolt though -- I replaced the original pan because someone had cross threaded the large bolt (dont' ask me how) --- More than a few Mercedes engines came with DIFFERENT sized drain plugs (M-14 or M-12) and the only way to tell is look and measure them. I've had 601 engines with both sized plugs, but I believe that OM61x engines all have M-12 plugs. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] Unimog
Can't remember who has the Unimog, Jim Cathey perhaps? Anyway, I know of one in the CA Central Valley at an MB shop and he needs some info and might even sell it. Any particular Unimog List out there I could pass on to my friend? Thanks in advance, -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Hey look, he replied twice to an unsubjected post. --R Marshall Booth wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: oh boy you did it now! collins 1985 500 sec
Re: [MBZ] Unimog
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/usgwagen/?yguid=218094389 ___ GG St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Desert Rat Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Unimog Can't remember who has the Unimog, Jim Cathey perhaps? Anyway, I know of one in the CA Central Valley at an MB shop and he needs some info and might even sell it. Any particular Unimog List out there I could pass on to my friend? Thanks in advance, -- John Freer
Re: [MBZ] Unimog
This one has lots of friendly people, not like this collection of ratbags and their old heaps:-) http://www.mogmsgexch.com/ Hendrik 82 U1300L - Original Message - From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:31 PM Subject: [MBZ] Unimog Can't remember who has the Unimog, Jim Cathey perhaps? Anyway, I know of one in the CA Central Valley at an MB shop and he needs some info and might even sell it. Any particular Unimog List out there I could pass on to my friend? Thanks in advance, -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.15.7/259 - Release Date: 13/02/2006
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:21 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-highway diesel prices, by week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATEAVG COAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 060213 2.476 2.509 2.617 2.591 2.464 2.419 2.447 2.500 2.621 2.709 060206 2.499 2.536 2.659 2.618 2.490 2.445 2.463 2.503 2.645 2.739 060130 2.489 2.530 2.661 2.618 2.481 2.431 2.455 2.474 2.640 2.733 060123 2.472 2.516 2.668 2.610 2.462 2.423 2.432 2.435 2.608 2.674 060116 2.449 2.489 2.663 2.605 2.424 2.408 2.415 2.411 2.565 2.603 060109 2.485 2.528 2.676 2.626 2.473 2.451 2.453 2.421 2.577 2.601 060102 2.442 2.481 2.645 2.590 2.420 2.412 2.414 2.392 2.519 2.538 051226 2.448 2.481 2.643 2.599 2.416 2.420 2.421 2.410 2.523 2.543 051219 2.462 2.499 2.647 2.609 2.438 2.443 2.435 2.410 2.505 2.521 051212 2.436 2.458 2.598 2.577 2.393 2.409 2.429 2.401 2.500 2.465 051205 2.425 2.428 2.591 2.569 2.354 2.390 2.411 2.471 2.538 2.486 051128 2.479 2.467 2.619 2.604 2.394 2.442 2.456 2.591 2.617 2.559 051121 2.513 2.491 2.652 2.615 2.423 2.477 2.491 2.654 2.652 2.599 051114 2.602 2.565 2.699 2.689 2.500 2.575 2.585 2.766 2.738 2.717 051107 2.698 2.657 2.744 2.755 2.608 2.671 2.679 2.907 2.821 2.797 051031 2.876 2.784 2.834 2.848 2.753 2.907 2.846 3.079 2.951 2.936 051024 3.157 3.051 2.873 2.940 3.115 3.235 3.146 3.232 3.142 3.152 051017 3.148 3.116 2.913 2.966 3.199 3.144 3.177 3.178 3.178 3.210 051010 3.150 3.160 2.947 2.990 3.252 3.123 3.182 3.143 3.167 3.240 051003 3.144 3.198 3.012 3.040 3.283 3.083 3.185 3.079 3.174 3.262 050926 2.798 2.808 2.859 2.875 2.775 2.739 2.756 2.938 2.978 3.031 050919 2.732 2.749 2.804 2.846 2.702 2.648 2.677 2.902 2.985 3.060 050912 2.847 2.849 2.920 2.935 2.806 2.782 2.797 2.957 3.093 3.158 050905 2.898 2.900 2.977 2.993 2.853 2.843 2.833 2.976 3.149 3.250 050829 2.590 2.564 2.649 2.654 2.518 2.532 2.508 2.726 2.920 3.045 050822 2.588 2.564 2.642 2.654 2.519 2.540 2.512 2.679 2.897 3.037 050815 2.567 2.544 2.618 2.633 2.499 2.524 2.481 2.615 2.891 3.042 050808 2.407 2.386 2.492 2.484 2.334 2.336 2.323 2.486 2.801 2.943 050801 2.348 2.356 2.488 2.465 2.297 2.292 2.279 2.421 2.594 2.657 050725 2.342 2.365 2.508 2.481 2.303 2.292 2.278 2.405 2.530 2.578 050718 2.392 2.412 2.535 2.521 2.354 2.361 2.331 2.430 2.530 2.589 050711 2.408 2.427 2.533 2.524 2.377 2.384 2.355 2.408 2.526 2.589 050704 2.348 2.370 2.485 2.475 2.315 2.328 2.290 2.328 2.467 2.554 050627 2.336 2.368 2.476 2.461 2.318 2.314 2.288 2.288 2.433 2.522 050620 2.313 2.348 2.442 2.451 2.296 2.294 2.274 2.236 2.391 2.476 050613 2.276 2.308 2.399 2.399 2.261 2.248 2.247 2.210 2.364 2.457 050606 2.234 2.263 2.353 2.343 2.221 2.198 2.213 2.191 2.339 2.421 050530 2.160 2.188 2.320 2.284 2.134 2.111 2.117 2.179 2.317 2.367 050523 2.156 2.181 2.338 2.292 2.119 2.097 2.112 2.207 2.339 2.373 050516 2.189 2.204 2.380 2.315 2.141 2.129 2.141 2.267 2.397 2.432 050509 2.227 2.237 2.389 2.342 2.179 2.157 2.173 2.318 2.481 2.518 050502 2.262 2.264 2.410 2.366 2.207 2.194 2.209 2.355 2.530 2.561 050425 2.289 2.287
Re: [MBZ] 603 IP, smoking and starting
I had some cold starting issues as well prior to my change, including rough idle at cold startup and the IP seeming to lose its prime. (Air bleed cranking procedure) However, Dr. Booth is the expert here. -j.
Re: [MBZ] vegetable oil as a fuel
My opinions below: On 2/15/06, Jerry Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a partially filled five gallon container of what appears to be vegetable oil. I also have an 82 240D. Umm... it appears to be veg oil? You might want to be sure. Though, if it will burn, chances are your Benz will run on it. If it's not new stuff, you might want to have a couple spare fuel filters with you if you're not going to pre-filter it... Questions: 1. Assuming it is a reasonably warm day, can I run this through the engine straight? I am thinking of putting it into a gas can under the hood, and having it sucked out of the can instead of from the line coming from the fuel tank. Probably... The oil really ought to be up to like 160-200 degrees. But The Mercedes have reputations for running on anything. One guy in Florida drove his for like 15K miles on straight veg with no heating before he killed it. 2. Will the car run if I do this? Probably. 3. At what temperature would it be too cold to do this? That depends on what you're asking. Technically speaking, when the oil is too cold to flow (like when it's solid) it's not going to get pumped into the engine. Realistically speaking, again it should be heated to around coolant temp. But for the amount you have, you'll probably get away with it as long as it's reasonably warm. (maybe 50 degrees if it's good oil). 4. Is it a problem if the oil looks ok, but is rancid? It would certainly clog your fuel filter quicker. I think you'd smell it if it was rancid though. It won't be a good smell. 5. If doing this straight is not a good idea, how much should it be diluted? There's people running blends of anything and everything. I'd go with 50%. Though that's still not as safe as heating it. But it would be safer than running it straight. 6. Is it ok to allow the line to return to the tank? Which fuel line takes it back to the tank? Where do I disconnect that line to avoid having any of this go to my tank? Well, you'll get some veg in your fuel tank. Probably not a problem for the amount you're talking about. It can potentially sit at the bottom and be a problem on a cold day, or start cleaning out all the gunk in the bottom of your tank and clog your filters, but again probably not a problem for your amount. The return line is right next to the supply line where it gets near the IP. There's two metal lines that run back towards the tank from the engine bay. 7. What do I tell my wife? What would you like to tell her? Levi (:
Re: [MBZ] Okie-Q
Lt. Don wrote: Yea, Donald. You can drive a gasser -- Mitch had one last year. Just don't pass out any business cards, ok? No problem. Most of my work is representing insurance companies. After all the wrecked benzes in this group (and the insurance companies trying to give you nothing for your cars), I think an insurance company lawyer coming to Okie-Q is like Larry Flynt going to Jerry Falwell's birthday. I will try to be there, I heard it was a lot of fun. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] vegetable oil as a fuel
Is the oil used or unused? Are you sure it is veg oil? If the answer is unused and yes AND you are not too anal about your car (I did this kind of stuff with my rusty 240D, but would never do it to my 300SD or 300TD), then go right ahead. I am probably most remembered on this list for putting filtered bacon fat into my 240DMarshall responded in about the same way as he did to you. I would not make it a habit of using RANCID oil. Anyway, just dump it straight in the tank2 gallons in a full tank is pretty negligable - until it gets cold...don't know where you live... But as Marshall correctly points out, THIS IS NOT APPROVED BY MERCEDES-BENZ, DAIMLER-CHRYSLER OR ANY OF IT'S AFFILIATES OR GURUS! So experiment at your own risk. FYI, alot of info online about this stuff. If you are really serious about going veg, I would visit www.frybrid.com - my friend has that system on his 85 300Dt (with less than 80K) and it is SWEET! Chris Chris Jerry Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a partially filled five gallon container of what appears to be vegetable oil. I also have an 82 240D. Questions: 1. Assuming it is a reasonably warm day, can I run this through the engine straight? I am thinking of putting it into a gas can under the hood, and having it sucked out of the can instead of from the line coming from the fuel tank. 2. Will the car run if I do this? 3. At what temperature would it be too cold to do this? 4. Is it a problem if the oil looks ok, but is rancid? 5. If doing this straight is not a good idea, how much should it be diluted? 6. Is it ok to allow the line to return to the tank? Which fuel line takes it back to the tank? Where do I disconnect that line to avoid having any of this go to my tank? 7. What do I tell my wife? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 16 14:28:30 2006 Received: from mout.perfora.net ([217.160.230.41]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9k7S-0004jS-4i for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:28:30 + Received: from [172.19.56.75] (helo=pustefix133.perfora.net) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrelayus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKoyl-1F9k7Q0ctK-0008Nm; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:28:29 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Binford: 6100 (more power) X-Mailer: Webmail X-Originating-From: 31369297 X-Routing: US X-Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Received: from pustefix133.perfora.net by 70.182.105.226 with HTTP id 31369297 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:28:27 EST Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:28:28 -0500 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okie Q X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:28:30 - I didn't care who got what. I told both of you what was in each one, and you, sir LT, told OK Don to take what he wanted. Any man in his nerdy mind would have taken the same equipment. ~ ~That was the Great Archaic Server Giveaway -- only individuals named Don ~were allowed to haul away a server. In the end, OK Don ended up with ~everything anyway. ~ ~On 2/15/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~ ~ One of the first things goiing on Saturday morning was all the Linux ~ people unloading computers from their trunks - no idea what was going ~ on...ask Luther. ~ ~ ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] Unimog
This is my favorite mog group http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com Bob DuPuy On 2/16/06, Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't remember who has the Unimog, Jim Cathey perhaps? Anyway, I know of one in the CA Central Valley at an MB shop and he needs some info and might even sell it. Any particular Unimog List out there I could pass on to my friend? Thanks in advance, -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 124 rear defroster timer
Meanwhile, I'll plug charger into cig lighter. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Big Discounts
So... are Snapper Mowers still sold at Wal Mart? On 2/15/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Seattle ArchDiocese has a scrip program where the schools get a cut of the store gift cards sold. They recently decided that Wally World and Sam's was bad for God and the world and will no longer do business there. Wonder if enough church elders decided Wally was bad, if it would impact the company. Seems the head of the Washington state legislature wanted to stay in Wally's pocket and killed the bill to make large employers foot the medical insurance bill more. Direct response to the $12million spent in state funds to support Wally. Really has the labor arm of the party uproared. On Tuesday, February 14, 2006, at 12:09 PM, Dave M. wrote: Speaking of increased sales volume, compared to reduced margins, here is a very interesting story of a CEO who decided *not* to continue doing business with Mall-Wart. It's quite long, but I found it fascinating... click the link below. The Man Who Said No to Wal-Mart Every year, thousands of executives venture to Bentonville, Arkansas, hoping to get their products onto the shelves of the world's biggest retailer. But Jim Wier wanted Wal-Mart to stop selling his Snapper mowers. http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/102/open_snapper.html -- Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:58:19 -0600 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big Discounts It would certainly increase volume, wouldn't it? On 2/14/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That might not work. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big Discounts and 120 % off all orders over $1500?? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] spray white lithium grease...more uses?.....?.....
picked some of this up as a result of the groaning door thread - the 87 300TD has some groaning doors. What else is this good for? Any hinges? the locks that hold down the hood? throttle linkages? door lock mechanisms? I know the sunroof rails have their own MB juice (gleitungspaste) Thanks! Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 16 14:57:39 2006 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.203]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9kZf-00081j-Nt for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:57:39 + Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i27so128762wxd for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:57:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ruQrxYr4k+ANfnfFApAEOvZd+/Vukj2/u1vi+t80d191vlBEMJ0pLDHX0WyJ4jb4s7mY51FTu7Ixn2Se/D6RzEcKROn0bsu0TWfOf/YGkbUzzRykNKHmmIebkzZhoTacBlKdkszehbTrnpJwTD9nl9BManWw2z6Yq3di0/jw94k= Received: by 10.70.43.8 with SMTP id q8mr1049319wxq; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:57:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.42.5 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:57:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:57:37 -0800 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] spray white lithium grease...more uses?.?. X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:57:39 - Skin moisterizer? On 2/16/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What else is this good for? Thanks! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (210k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
[MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door
Some of this info might be in the manual, but I keep forgetting to check and haven't had a chance to read it yet (I AM a manual reader, just takes some time to get to it). There is a motor that, once the door is more or less closed, pulls the door in and engages the lock - nice, but up there with 87 zone climate control, IMO. It does the same when you unlock. NOW, here's my question, the door doesn't stay open...it keeps falling shutis it supposed to open and close ALL THE WAY AUTOMATICALLY? If yes, how does that work? If not, what holds it up? A spring? A strut type thing? magnets? Is this a job from hell to fix?...what's up? Thanks for any help! Christopher Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 16 15:13:29 2006 Received: from web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.65]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9koy-0001K8-SJ for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:13:29 + Received: (qmail 16955 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Feb 2006 15:13:25 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Uv6cHfXHCQcIxZZES/fspn4xQL+8rxvzW56WGxP4KiwZdVwmvM5Ze9/WJTymJm0J+18O6W1uca5mCjEaIQd6HCnoeHEH4tGTB2wLkHN/LNyZXFCGVE56ScK3nCRbx7PbfY5//8G/IzChh2eYqMmNpqu8+D4KUNS6NM+QIu/3jMk= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [67.52.19.222] by web30002.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:13:25 PST Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:13:25 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] spray white lithium grease...more uses?.?. X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:13:29 - Now you're just asking for Lt. Don to say what we all know he's already thinking! Chris P.S. gruengeist - green spirit...are you a big enviromentalist? Is your car green? FYI, Alt-129 gives you: ü...grün...of course few people would know that so your incoming e-mail might be limited. Tchüß! Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skin moisterizer? On 2/16/06, Christopher McCann wrote: What else is this good for? Thanks! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (210k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 16 15:20:11 2006 Received: from [70.184.21.200] (helo=[192.168.1.101]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1F9kvT-0002AJ-PO for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:20:11 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:18:17 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us,
Re: [MBZ] 603 IP, smoking and starting
It is possible that the copper seals had leaked too. As to the o-ring situation, This pump has leaked off and on for quite a while. (years) One thing i do know from experience is that it IS possible to have air leak through both rubber hoses and through rusty areas on steel lined under clamps without any indication of fuel leakage. Just a little over a year ago I had this situation on my SDL where the line over the rear axle had a rusty area under a clamp. On the steel lines, If you let it go long enough it will eventually start to get wet from fuel and then eventually start to leak. My first experience with this was on my 62 190Dc that was rusty when i got it in 1971. Under the rear door, there was a rusty spot under a clamp that was rusty, but not leaking. After I cut out this chunk, and replaced it, I no longer got air into the fuel system. I have also had rubber hoses in the engine compartment and from the tank to the steel lines that look ok, and don't appear to be leaking, but have quite a bit of age on them. When I have unexplained air leakage i replace rubber hoses and then if it persists, I start looking for rust under clamps. The only explanation I have for this is the difference in molecule size between petro-based fuels and Oxygen molecules. I believe that as rubber deteriorates, it develops voids large enough to allow oxygen to pass but too small for fuel to pass. the same seems to be true with rusty steel, with the rust scale in place. Once you knock off the rust scale, you get fuel leakage. The clamps do a great job of holding rust scale in place. The best explanation I have is an analogy to the common LDPE milk bottle. The molecular structure of LDPE is pretty much like a window screen. It is fine enough to hold in water and milk molecules, but aldehydes go through. If you have heard purists claim that milk tastes better in glass, it is because the flavor is able to migrate through the LDPE, but not through glass. I believe the IP o-rings can allow air past without fuel leakage, but when the o-rings leak, I have little doubt that air enters the system when the engine is off. When they leak fuel, they do at least allow any pressure in the fuel system to bleed off. Air in the fuel system is particularly a problem with older VWs, as LT Don is experiencing with the Quantum. These engines have no transfer pump, but rely on the draw of the Rotary Injection pump to pull fuel from the tank. Any air leakage results in fuel draining back into the tank and the lines filling with air. The workaround for VWs is to install an electric fuel pump if you can't find the source of the air leak. I have no idea if I have defined a test for delivery valve seal leakage. All I can say is that if you have a diesel that is 15-20 years old and the IP o-rings have not been replaced, I highly recommend changing the o-rings, copper seals and springs. This same was true for 621 and other older engines too. Cleanliness is an absolute must! you don't want even a speck of lint from a cotton rag into the fuel system. I used to do this regularly on OM 621 engines, but haven't had the time and all the parts and tools and cooperative weather together at the same time to get this done on my 603. Loren At 09:12 PM 2/15/2006, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: Marshall, thanks for your input. There certainly could be other factors. I had changed glow plugs, timing chain, valve seals, fuel filters, battery, starter and probably a few other things with no change. Many of these were changed for other reasons, but some were changed to chase the starting problem. I really thought going from a 300K chain to a new chain would make a difference, but it made none. I even tried a visual GP inspection with the injectors removed. All the glow plugs lit up evenly and went to white hot. Mine would start firing, probably on the third compression stroke, but run very rough. It acted like it was starved for fuel, but all the fuel system seemed to check out. When I pulled out the pin for the purple wire, it made more difference than anything else did, but it did not cure the problem. In my case, pulling the purple wire did make a difference in smoking and it also helped with the low power and rough running. Even in 20 below weather, my 603 has always started even without the heater plugged in. In below zero weather it was hard to keep it running when first started. It would start just fine, then loose power, and seemed to run on 3, 4, or 5 cylinders, then gradually pick up the weak cylinders. Remember this engine tested out to 425 PSI compression on all cylinders. When i replaced the o-rings, two broke when taking them off and one was severely eroded for about 1/3 of the diameter. This is consistent with missing on 1-3 cylinders depending on conditions. Marshall, I am so impressed with the result of this operation, I am
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 113
http://www.schwag.org/~marmelmm/Images/OkieQ2005/ kayoooh @ gmail wrote: Is there a link to those pictures!? Omar. Message: 12 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 00:41:14 + From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates? To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I didn't drive the longest distance, but did hold the record for the most hours w/out sleep while attending. (Was up all day after having about four hours sleep the previous night, then drove thru the night to OkieLand, and then did the OkieQ -- all w/out my head hitting a pillow. That is why I look like Lurch in the OkieQ 2005 pics.) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
no, he doesnt repond to UNSIGNED posts. I dont think he has a rule
about no subject, but I could be wrong.
Rich Thomas wrote:
Hey look, he replied twice to an unsubjected post.
--R
Marshall Booth wrote:
Marshall Booth wrote:
More than a few Mercedes engines came with DIFFERENT sized drain plugs
(M-14 or M-12) and the only way to tell is look and measure them. I've
had 601 engines with both sized plugs, but I believe that OM61x engines
all have M-12 plugs.
Marshall
Meant to say all RECENT ('80+) OM61x engines have M-12 plugs. Not sure
about earlier ones. Sorry!
Marshall
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[MBZ] Exploding GPs
Some one said: I would vote for the gasoline being introduced at some point theory someone suggested. FWIW, I put 4 gals of gas into my westy 1.6TD because some station in Ohio used GREEN handles for regular. Just topped it off the rest of the way with diesel, and noticed no difference whatsoever. My brother, a diesel fleet mechanic, once had a knucklehead service driver run two complete tanks of gas through a Ford 6.3 diesel, with no ill effects, tho I wouldn't recommend it. Dan -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 186k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k
[MBZ] One more batch...
..of specials. Good through end of February 2006. 002 094 04 04 air filter OM617 1979 to 1985 turbo only $11.75 617 180 00 09 oil filter OM616/OM617 1977 to 1985 $6.75 001 477 79 01 in line fuel filter OM616/OM617 1977 to 1985 $1.90 002 092 05 01 spin on fuel filter OM616/OM617 1977 to 1985 $6.75 601 180 01 09 oil filter OM601/OM602/OM603/OM606 1986 to 1995 $6.85 601 090 03 52 spin on fuel filter OM601/OM/602/OM603/OM606 1986 to 1995 $5.50 000 466 16 04 power steering filter most models 1966 to present $2.95 102 184 01 01 oil filter M102/M103 1985 to 1993 $3.75 104 180 01 09 oil filter M104/M111 1990 to 2004 $5.05 126 270 02 98 transmission filter and pan gasket W107/W123/W124/W126 1981 to 1995 $15.95 No other discounts apply to these prices. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 http://www.buyMBparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com/
Re: [MBZ] 603 IP, smoking and starting
How hard is this to do on the 617's? ~ ~I have no idea if I have defined a test for delivery valve seal ~leakage. All I can say is that if you have a diesel that is 15-20 years ~old and the IP o-rings have not been replaced, I highly recommend changing ~the o-rings, copper seals and springs. This same was true for 621 and ~other older engines too. Cleanliness is an absolute must! you don't want ~even a speck of lint from a cotton rag into the fuel system. I used to do ~this regularly on OM 621 engines, but haven't had the time and all the ~parts and tools and cooperative weather together at the same time to get ~this done on my 603. ~ ~Loren ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
[MBZ] FW: One more batch...
Also, you MUST mention this spam to get these prices. -Original Message- From: Rusty Cullens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:47 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'JabbaHursty' Subject: One more batch... ..of specials. Good through end of February 2006. 002 094 04 04 air filter OM617 1979 to 1985 turbo only $11.75 617 180 00 09 oil filter OM616/OM617 1977 to 1985 $6.75 001 477 79 01 in line fuel filter OM616/OM617 1977 to 1985 $1.90 002 092 05 01 spin on fuel filter OM616/OM617 1977 to 1985 $6.75 601 180 01 09 oil filter OM601/OM602/OM603/OM606 1986 to 1995 $6.85 601 090 03 52 spin on fuel filter OM601/OM/602/OM603/OM606 1986 to 1995 $5.50 000 466 16 04 power steering filter most models 1966 to present $2.95 102 184 01 01 oil filter M102/M103 1985 to 1993 $3.75 104 180 01 09 oil filter M104/M111 1990 to 2004 $5.05 126 270 02 98 transmission filter and pan gasket W107/W123/W124/W126 1981 to 1995 $15.95 No other discounts apply to these prices. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 http://www.buyMBparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com/
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door
There is a motor that, once the door is more or less closed, pulls the door in and engages the lock - nice, but up there with 87 zone climate control, IMO. It does the same when you unlock. A door motor? In an 87 124? News to me. NOW, here's my question, the door doesn't stay open...it keeps falling shutis it supposed to open and close ALL THE WAY AUTOMATICALLY? If yes, how does that work? The struts are shot. Fun job, I hear. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Exploding Glowplugs
The only way any gasoline was in my 200D was if the distributor or tank truck mixed some in. I won't say that was impossible, but I noticed nothing unusual about the way the engine was running when the plug blew. If there was enough gasoline to cause a glow plug to blow, I'd guess there'd be a noticeable difference in sound or performance. The 200D was old enough that the owners manual stated that up to 25% gasoline was ok in the winter. I will grant that was for loop type glow plugs, and I had updated to pencil type. However Bosch I am sure was aware of the gasoline approval. I just chalked it up to some weirdness or perhaps a manufacturing defect. Loren
Re: [MBZ] spray white lithium grease...more uses?.....?.....
It's perfect for any locations where it might be exposed to water/moisture
as it tends to stay in place.
Sincerely,
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Subject: [MBZ] spray white lithium grease...more uses?.?.
picked some of this up as a result of the groaning door thread - the 87
300TD has some groaning doors.
What else is this good for? Any hinges? the locks that hold down the hood?
throttle linkages? door lock mechanisms?
I know the sunroof rails have their own MB juice (gleitungspaste)
Thanks!
Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose
-1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook
-1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen
-1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf
-1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
-1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger
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Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door
Bad struts. BTDT. PITA to do, but well worth having an operational door. And, it will last another 18 years. ___ GG STILL WISH I HAD MY 87 300TD St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door NOW, here's my question, the door doesn't stay open...it keeps falling shutis it supposed to open and close ALL THE WAY AUTOMATICALLY? If yes, how does that work? If not, what holds it up? A spring? A strut type thing? magnets? Is this a job from hell to fix?...what's up?
Re: [MBZ] FW: One more batch...
Any deals on a case of SPAM, Rusty? On 2/16/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, you MUST mention this spam to get these prices. -Original Message- From: Rusty Cullens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:47 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'JabbaHursty' Subject: One more batch... ..of specials. Good through end of February 2006. 002 094 04 04 air filter OM617 1979 to 1985 turbo only $11.75 617 180 00 09 oil filter OM616/OM617 1977 to 1985 $6.75 001 477 79 01 in line fuel filter OM616/OM617 1977 to 1985 $1.90 002 092 05 01 spin on fuel filter OM616/OM617 1977 to 1985 $6.75 601 180 01 09 oil filter OM601/OM602/OM603/OM606 1986 to 1995 $6.85 601 090 03 52 spin on fuel filter OM601/OM/602/OM603/OM606 1986 to 1995 $5.50 000 466 16 04 power steering filter most models 1966 to present $2.95 102 184 01 01 oil filter M102/M103 1985 to 1993 $3.75 104 180 01 09 oil filter M104/M111 1990 to 2004 $5.05 126 270 02 98 transmission filter and pan gasket W107/W123/W124/W126 1981 to 1995 $15.95 No other discounts apply to these prices. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 http://www.buyMBparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] FW: One more batch...
Sure. $1.99 a can. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: One more batch... Any deals on a case of SPAM, Rusty? On 2/16/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, you MUST mention this spam to get these prices. -Original Message- From: Rusty Cullens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:47 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'JabbaHursty' Subject: One more batch... ..of specials. Good through end of February 2006. 002 094 04 04 air filter OM617 1979 to 1985 turbo only $11.75 617 180 00 09 oil filter OM616/OM617 1977 to 1985 $6.75 001 477 79 01 in line fuel filter OM616/OM617 1977 to 1985 $1.90 002 092 05 01 spin on fuel filter OM616/OM617 1977 to 1985 $6.75 601 180 01 09 oil filter OM601/OM602/OM603/OM606 1986 to 1995 $6.85 601 090 03 52 spin on fuel filter OM601/OM/602/OM603/OM606 1986 to 1995 $5.50 000 466 16 04 power steering filter most models 1966 to present $2.95 102 184 01 01 oil filter M102/M103 1985 to 1993 $3.75 104 180 01 09 oil filter M104/M111 1990 to 2004 $5.05 126 270 02 98 transmission filter and pan gasket W107/W123/W124/W126 1981 to 1995 $15.95 No other discounts apply to these prices. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 http://www.buyMBparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] FW: One more batch...
How about a special on that new LubroMoly oil addative? ~Any deals on a case of SPAM, Rusty? ~ ~ ~On 2/16/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~ ~ Also, you MUST mention this spam to get these prices. ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] FW: One more batch...
Ok, $6.95 a can. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: One more batch... How about a special on that new LubroMoly oil addative? ~Any deals on a case of SPAM, Rusty? ~ ~ ~On 2/16/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~ ~ Also, you MUST mention this spam to get these prices. ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Pan Plug
went to FAPS and picked up a 12 1.25 plug for the pan. Took the pan with me. That fit, so the one that came was 14. Will hold onto the large one in case I get a pan with a large hole. On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 08:46 PM, redghost wrote: yep, that huge drain plug is what ripped out of Gump. Must have been some goon in SF pulled the wrong size plug for the package that Rusty had sent out. I know it was not a mistake on his end. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Bad thermostat - wierd
So on the way home after about 20 miles the thermostat seemed to cure itself. Today on the way to work it was fine... Definately gonna flush the coolant and put in a new thermostat. -Curt Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:18:48 -0500 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad thermostat To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 05:54 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: On the way to work this morning in heavy stop and go traffic the temp gauge on the 190D dropped to 60C. Heater output dropped correspondingly. Seems to me like I've got a sticky thermostat. That stinks, its a new thermostat last month. What kind of stuff could make a thermostat stick open? I've had 'em stick closed when using bars leaks and stuff but never had one stick open... I'll have my Indy change coolant when he does the thermostat this time. -Curt I found a ball of aluminum in a stuck open thermostat. Looked like casting slag. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 16 19:05:23 2006 Received: from web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.68]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9oRN-vx-Qg for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:05:22 + Received: (qmail 42886 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Feb 2006 19:05:17 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=N0cuuInt75qJmq3CIqVSpyVgSQhtS+85DD3aoUi4hRc3fJ4crG2LldO4/IfqMtDG5fXuYpIPvv5i7XN/GIZ5csyJ2KubnfLsneLyS8JHZMmq+zUE8F7yzX7zpxNCDNp8ifXzn6qggaMgMoN/hBNgc3iYxu9XrIZnTSaau7XSN2E= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [67.52.19.222] by web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:05:17 PST Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:05:17 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:05:23 - OK, so where are the struts (I'm assuming there are 2) - above the head liner or in the pillars? Any tips on how to do this? Thanks, Chris George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bad struts. BTDT. PITA to do, but well worth having an operational door. And, it will last another 18 years. ___ GG STILL WISH I HAD MY 87 300TD St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door NOW, here's my question, the door doesn't stay open...it keeps falling shutis it supposed to open and close ALL THE WAY AUTOMATICALLY? If yes, how does that work? If not, what holds it up? A spring? A strut type thing? magnets? Is this a job from hell to fix?...what's up? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 16 19:31:23 2006 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.194]) by server5.arterytc5.net with
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D
I understand totally. My wife drives an Avalon but would like a Mercedes
too.
Randy B
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D
you wrote:if you don't want it to sound like a diesel, just buy one that
runs on gasoline!
Good point! Unfortunately this would be my wifes primary transport and
she's been spoiled by our Camry. It's so quiet at idle we often wonder if
it's even running!
See? I take the easy way out - blame it on my wife!
;-)
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB)
Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates?
Then it'll just have to try harder. Are you sure it isn't just nostalgia? Often we remember things better than they were? Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of George Gregory Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tentative Okie Q dates? On 2/15/06 7:14 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somewhere in OK. Show up and don't embarrass yourself so bad that you won't want to go again next year (or something like that). Bring coveralls and hand cleaner so you can help Kaleb dismantle some old MB. Watch out for Regina (if you aren't on Banned you should be - will help if you go to OK.) The Okie Q is NEVER as good as the original Rusty Q. ___
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door
17 years? Since 1989, our 1983 300TD has needed to have the struts replaced TWICE and I need to do it again. They seem to last around 5-6 years at best. It's not that difficult a job but you will need a torx socket wrench to R/R the bolts that secure the struts to the roof and a long 2X4 to support the hatch door while the struts are removed. A helpful friend would also be a plus. Aggravation is likely but less so the second time around. On 2/16/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so where are the struts (I'm assuming there are 2) - above the head liner or in the pillars? Any tips on how to do this? Thanks, Chris George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bad struts. BTDT. PITA to do, but well worth having an operational door. And, it will last another 18 years. ___ GG STILL WISH I HAD MY 87 300TD St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door NOW, here's my question, the door doesn't stay open...it keeps falling shutis it supposed to open and close ALL THE WAY AUTOMATICALLY? If yes, how does that work? If not, what holds it up? A spring? A strut type thing? magnets? Is this a job from hell to fix?...what's up? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door
Yours last less time because of your proximity to the atmospheric pollution coming out of DC At 01:32 PM 2/16/2006, you wrote: 17 years? Since 1989, our 1983 300TD has needed to have the struts replaced TWICE and I need to do it again. They seem to last around 5-6 years at best. It's not that difficult a job but you will need a torx socket wrench to R/R the bolts that secure the struts to the roof and a long 2X4 to support the hatch door while the struts are removed. A helpful friend would also be a plus. Aggravation is likely but less so the second time around. On 2/16/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so where are the struts (I'm assuming there are 2) - above the head liner or in the pillars? Any tips on how to do this? Thanks, Chris George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bad struts. BTDT. PITA to do, but well worth having an operational door. And, it will last another 18 years. ___ GG STILL WISH I HAD MY 87 300TD St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door NOW, here's my question, the door doesn't stay open...it keeps falling shutis it supposed to open and close ALL THE WAY AUTOMATICALLY? If yes, how does that work? If not, what holds it up? A spring? A strut type thing? magnets? Is this a job from hell to fix?...what's up? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] The time has come (again)
Flying out tomorrow (if temps are not too low to fly) to retrieve the 240D. Will be flying into Phoenix, speding some time there, then head down to Tucson where the auto awaits. Will be driving around, enjoying a little vacation in my home town, and then will drive back to MN, with grease gun in trunk for replenishing the axle with the cracked boot. Send good List-vibes for our journey. Brian 83 240D _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door
so you remove the headliner and there they are? Chris andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 17 years? Since 1989, our 1983 300TD has needed to have the struts replaced TWICE and I need to do it again. They seem to last around 5-6 years at best. It's not that difficult a job but you will need a torx socket wrench to R/R the bolts that secure the struts to the roof and a long 2X4 to support the hatch door while the struts are removed. A helpful friend would also be a plus. Aggravation is likely but less so the second time around. On 2/16/06, Christopher McCann wrote: OK, so where are the struts (I'm assuming there are 2) - above the head liner or in the pillars? Any tips on how to do this? Thanks, Chris George Gregory wrote: Bad struts. BTDT. PITA to do, but well worth having an operational door. And, it will last another 18 years. ___ GG STILL WISH I HAD MY 87 300TD St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door NOW, here's my question, the door doesn't stay open...it keeps falling shutis it supposed to open and close ALL THE WAY AUTOMATICALLY? If yes, how does that work? If not, what holds it up? A spring? A strut type thing? magnets? Is this a job from hell to fix?...what's up? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 16 21:11:31 2006 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net ([204.127.203.212]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F9qPS-00077N-W0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:11:31 + Received: from lono2.leadingchange.com (12-216-11-137.client.mchsi.com[12.216.11.137]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id 20060216211127m92001aqloe; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:11:27 + Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:06:17 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] The time has come (again) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:11:31 - Good Luck Brian! We hope all goes well this time! At 02:55 PM 2/16/2006, you wrote:
Re: [MBZ] Pan Plug
Wasn't that the reason why you needed a new pan in the first place? (a large hole?) Randy B -Original Message- Will hold onto the large one in case I get a pan with a large hole.
[MBZ] Got any time in PHX......
Brian, If you've got any time in Phoenix, please let me know... We might be able to round up a few Benzers and have a minilistfest. I'm only 30 minutes from Sky Harbor... Let me know, Chuck Phoenix, AZ Cell - 480-710-0898 On Feb 16, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Brian Chase wrote: Flying out tomorrow (if temps are not too low to fly) to retrieve the 240D. Will be flying into Phoenix, speding some time there, then head down to
[MBZ] Late model 124 body cladding info
I recently purchased some of the late model 124 lower body panel cladding, and foolishly thought these were like those found on my Vanagon--just tacked on for show. Turns out they're integral to sealing the lower parts of the doors. I then found much to my chagrin that I needed to purchase the long plastic panel$ that bolt to the body beneath the door$ and fender$. These panels appear to utilize mounting points that don't exist on the earlier model 124 chassis. Have any of you messed around with these pieces before, or successfully adapted an early chassis to the late appearance package? As usual, the service manual is bereft of useful details. TIA -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (210k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
Re: [MBZ] The time has come (again)
How about a few wraps of some sort of shrink wrap around the cracked boot to keep the grease in until you get a chance to fix it? Sounds wierd but it might work. Things like tape probably wouldn't work well as the sticky may not handle the grease but shrink wrap might be ok and especially if applied while you are where it is warm. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Chase Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] The time has come (again) Flying out tomorrow (if temps are not too low to fly) to retrieve the 240D. Will be flying into Phoenix, speding some time there, then head down to Tucson where the auto awaits. Will be driving around, enjoying a little vacation in my home town, and then will drive back to MN, with grease gun in trunk for replenishing the axle with the cracked boot. Send good List-vibes for our journey. Brian 83 240D
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door
Chris, Once you remove the plastic roof moulding and rear speakers, IIRC, you'll see that the headliner neatly hangs by a dowel or maybe one on each side. Just slip it or them off their brackets and the rear 2' approx. of the headliner drops down. You can then gain access to tackle the front end of the struts' torx fittings. In a later 123 TD (84-85) they may have replaced the torx fittings. WARNING: These fittings are SUPER TIGHT and I think I even stripped one while getting it out, so have spares on hand!! On 2/16/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so you remove the headliner and there they are? Chris andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 17 years? Since 1989, our 1983 300TD has needed to have the struts replaced TWICE and I need to do it again. They seem to last around 5-6 years at best. It's not that difficult a job but you will need a torx socket wrench to R/R the bolts that secure the struts to the roof and a long 2X4 to support the hatch door while the struts are removed. A helpful friend would also be a plus. Aggravation is likely but less so the second time around. On 2/16/06, Christopher McCann wrote: OK, so where are the struts (I'm assuming there are 2) - above the head liner or in the pillars? Any tips on how to do this? Thanks, Chris George Gregory wrote: Bad struts. BTDT. PITA to do, but well worth having an operational door. And, it will last another 18 years. ___ GG STILL WISH I HAD MY 87 300TD St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door NOW, here's my question, the door doesn't stay open...it keeps falling shutis it supposed to open and close ALL THE WAY AUTOMATICALLY? If yes, how does that work? If not, what holds it up? A spring? A strut type thing? magnets? Is this a job from hell to fix?...what's up? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door
Thanks, Andrew. I think I can tackle this one myself without t much trouble. Chris andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, Once you remove the plastic roof moulding and rear speakers, IIRC, you'll see that the headliner neatly hangs by a dowel or maybe one on each side. Just slip it or them off their brackets and the rear 2' approx. of the headliner drops down. You can then gain access to tackle the front end of the struts' torx fittings. In a later 123 TD (84-85) they may have replaced the torx fittings. WARNING: These fittings are SUPER TIGHT and I think I even stripped one while getting it out, so have spares on hand!! On 2/16/06, Christopher McCann wrote: so you remove the headliner and there they are? Chris andrew strasfogel wrote: 17 years? Since 1989, our 1983 300TD has needed to have the struts replaced TWICE and I need to do it again. They seem to last around 5-6 years at best. It's not that difficult a job but you will need a torx socket wrench to R/R the bolts that secure the struts to the roof and a long 2X4 to support the hatch door while the struts are removed. A helpful friend would also be a plus. Aggravation is likely but less so the second time around. On 2/16/06, Christopher McCann wrote: OK, so where are the struts (I'm assuming there are 2) - above the head liner or in the pillars? Any tips on how to do this? Thanks, Chris George Gregory wrote: Bad struts. BTDT. PITA to do, but well worth having an operational door. And, it will last another 18 years. ___ GG STILL WISH I HAD MY 87 300TD St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 87 300TD hatch door NOW, here's my question, the door doesn't stay open...it keeps falling shutis it supposed to open and close ALL THE WAY AUTOMATICALLY? If yes, how does that work? If not, what holds it up? A spring? A strut type thing? magnets? Is this a job from hell to fix?...what's up? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive,
Re: [MBZ] The time has come (again)
Hmm, I never patched mine. It was ripped when I got it and it lasted probably 10K miles before it started making noise... Levi (: On 2/16/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, February 16, 2006, at 06:21 PM, R A Bennell wrote: How about a few wraps of some sort of shrink wrap around the cracked boot to keep the grease in until you get a chance to fix it? Sounds wierd but it might work. Things like tape probably wouldn't work well as the sticky may not handle the grease but shrink wrap might be ok and especially if applied while you are where it is warm. Randy B I used kitchen type plastic wrap, I think it was reynolds, on a ripped boot once. Amazingly, it lasted about 8-900mi. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
[MBZ] Bought a Different 300D
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While I thought I wanted the 300D I found in NJ, we went by and looked at a
91 300D with only 99k miles. Wanted my wife to see one in person. Since it
had a price of $1 I passed as this was more than I wanted to pay. It
drove and looked very nice and best of all was just down the street a few
miles. As it turned out this was a wholesaler who liked to sell cars and
this one had been there for 40 days. I can only think the unusually high
price of diesel kept it from selling - diesel is more than premium gas
around here. We got together at $8k and saved myself a trip to NJ with the
plane/train/drive back/day spent that went with it. Started it from cold
(although it;s in the 60s today) and the light went off after ~5 seconds and
the car fired up instantly. Idled smoothly and evenly, shifted as it should
and best of all (for the little woman) it was very quiet! Accelerated
nicely - especially once warmed up and downshifted as it should. Other than
a rear view mirror needing replacement I didn;t see anything needing
immediate attention.
Plus, this car has less than 100k while the other had 160K. So we went with
this one -- will pick it up Saturday. I did a search of 91-93 300D in a 50
mile range of 23831 zip - it;s at Hyman Auto and is pearl gray with a gray
interior. Comes with all books, has a new spare, the tool kits looks like
its all there also. Climate control worked as did the radio and everything
else as far as I went.
One thing I'm curious about. Air bags are critical to surviving an
accident - my wife lived because of the air bag she had when she was in a
wreck last Oct - but I'm not sure how you *know* they're still ready and
willing to fire should the need arise. Does the car do a self test of the
air bag to make sure it';s working?
At 99k miles the GPs might be getting long in the tooth. What;s the best
way to test them? Resistance? what value should they have? I'll switch to
Mobil 1 after putting 3000 on this oil. And will change the serpentine belt
if needed - although it looked like it was in very good condition. What
kind of fuese does it use? The old ceramic ones? I know, once it's in my
driveway I'll discover many of these things ---
Anything else I should plan on doing?
Later --
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D 2.5)
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