[MBZ] tranny filter
Is the tranny filter/gasket used on the turbo transmissions the same as used on a 84 190D? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
yep Luther Gulseth wrote: Good call. Rusty On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:40:38 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: couple of cans of diesel purge -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
WOW, thats ALOT of oil usage, sounds like you might have scored piston walls. Luther Gulseth wrote: 1qt/250-300mi. On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:45:34 -0600, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: couple of cans of diesel purge Luther Gulseth wrote: I'll check valves and oil leak next weekend. What about checking the rear side of the turbo for oil? How hard is that? What's the proceedure for the baffle epoxy? Just how much oil are you using? How many qt in how many miles? Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] tranny filter
What turbo transmissions On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:16:11 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the tranny filter/gasket used on the turbo transmissions the same as used on a 84 190D? -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: WOW, thats ALOT of oil usage, sounds like you might have scored piston walls. Christ, even our 240D didn't burn that much oil with 1 double-holed piston, 1 deeply gouged cylinder liner, 1 piston with cracked rings, and a cracked head! Speaking of, the new motor just went into the car on Friday - http://www.mbdiesel.net/ -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
Re: [MBZ] tranny filter
turbo DIESELS, you know, 123, 126 etc Luther Gulseth wrote: What turbo transmissions On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:16:11 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the tranny filter/gasket used on the turbo transmissions the same as used on a 84 190D? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
what did you do, clean the engine, transmisson, and engine compartment while you had it out? Looks good. John Ervine wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: WOW, thats ALOT of oil usage, sounds like you might have scored piston walls. Christ, even our 240D didn't burn that much oil with 1 double-holed piston, 1 deeply gouged cylinder liner, 1 piston with cracked rings, and a cracked head! Speaking of, the new motor just went into the car on Friday - http://www.mbdiesel.net/ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] I LOVE the color
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-Mercedes-Benz-300-Turbo-Diesel-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4625892934QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: what did you do, clean the engine, transmisson, and engine compartment while you had it out? Looks good. The engine is a rebuild from Metric Motors out in California. The injection pump and injectors are from Tom Horvath at Yankee Diesel in Connecticut - very special IP work, should be a very fast (relatively) 240D post break-in - lower no-load max RPM, higher load RPM, and higher fuel delivery in mid-range and up. Donna degreased the engine compartment for the most part - the bottom is still grease-laden, as I found out when bolting up the motor mounts. The transmission was cleaned as best as possible after removal, and then I touched up the top half with some fine steel wool to remove the oxidation. As I mention on at least one page, the photos simply do not do the motor justice. I hated to put the motor in the car, and would have rather set it in my living room. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
Re: [MBZ] tranny filter
NO, unless it's a Cali 722.4 in an '85. My 123/126 pans are different than my parents '85D/Cali, which is the same as a '84 190D On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:24:02 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: turbo DIESELS, you know, 123, 126 etc Luther Gulseth wrote: What turbo transmissions On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:16:11 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the tranny filter/gasket used on the turbo transmissions the same as used on a 84 190D? -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
BUT, after sealing the valve cover baffle Thurs/Fri, I don't see anymore white smoke at idle, and it's hardly there at 3000+RPM. THAT may have been most of my useage. I can put 250 on this week and see if the comsumption is still high. On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:18:41 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW, thats ALOT of oil usage, sounds like you might have scored piston walls. Luther Gulseth wrote: 1qt/250-300mi. On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:45:34 -0600, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: couple of cans of diesel purge Luther Gulseth wrote: I'll check valves and oil leak next weekend. What about checking the rear side of the turbo for oil? How hard is that? What's the proceedure for the baffle epoxy? Just how much oil are you using? How many qt in how many miles? Marshall -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
WOW, thats ALOT of oil usage, sounds like you might have scored piston walls. Not to be discounted on these cars is a malfunction of the oil separator system in the air cleaner. (Including the baffle of recent discussion, the hoses, etc.) I own the Chicken Wagon because the PO thought the engine was toast. Five minutes with a screwdriver and that dog was converted to something we drove a couple of hundred miles home. Not that we knew anything about it at the time, we just thought that having the breather hose mostly occluded by a clot of rubber snot couldn't be doing it any good. No, it wasn't! The oil reclamation system in the crankcase ventilator depends upon relative pressures being right. The oil in the blowby in this case was pooling and slopping over into the turbo intake. Big oil consumption, bad intermittent engine noises, and a lot of carboning up. All gone after fixing the breather hose. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation
So is it doing more harm than good if in there and seized? Or is there some sort of bypass so it's just not helping, but not hindering either? The seized motor current can cause trouble with the ACC system, but I'm told that it doesn't impede coolant flow too badly. It's just a simple impeller pump, so it flows through OK even when stopped. -- Jim
[MBZ] Another happy day with the 190D
Looking at houses today in the second hilliest city in the USA provided some good italian tune up opportunities. Unfortunately it didn't provide any houses we were interested in... Friday I took the 190D to 494mi on 1 fillup. Saturday the car didn't want to start and when it did it ran like crap. A tank of clean fuel made it run better but I figured fuel filters were in order. In the process I learned a couple things: The secondary filter is a PITA. Loosen the engine side clamp, then pull the filter back and loosen the tank side clamp. When reinstalling make sure you're on the right clamp before you tighten. I honked on some other screw in there a couple times cursing when it wouldn't turn only to find out it was the wrong screw... The primary filter is easier but not easy... The primary filter holds almost a whole bottle of diesel purge but don't fill the filter all the way up unless for some crazy reason you WANT to spill diesel purge on the belt. I'm not sure but I bet the purge isn't any good for the belt... Anyway that whole job only took about half an hour. When I started the engine it tried to die but I was ready and held it to high idle and it was fine after about 10 seconds. Then I took it from 1100' where I live (highest city in New England) down to about 300 feet and back up all at 60-65mph in 4th gear (about 3000rpm). The engine seems quieter and is definately a bit more responsive. I replaced all the bulbs in the passenger side rear group to get the blinker to work right again. I figured while I was there I'd get 'em all. The intermittantly bad blinker was probably due to a bulb that had come lose from its base. Then I continued with defunking the interior. I dunno about the people that had the car before me but I don't think they EVER cleaned the carpets. I bought a bottle of OxyClean carpet stain remover at the local liquidators and it does a real good job removing the accumulated slime and horror. I've got a gift certificate for an interior detailing but so far I've been too embarassed about the disgusting interior. It was that nasty. Right now I'm glueing up a paper towel to make a coffee sachet to absorb some of the smell. Its alot better than it was but its not a smell I like yet... -Curt '85 190D Dory 236kmi - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 27 00:51:37 2006 Received: from mout.perfora.net ([217.160.230.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FNfxI-0003Cw-Ks for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:51:37 + Received: from [209.128.168.31] (helo=lugul) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrelayus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKoyl-1FNfxE1hLl-0007bY; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:51:34 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:01:16 -0600 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Opera M2/8.53 (Win32, build 7722) X-Provags-ID: perfora.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] login:b7474d0caa1522f6604e7562a3d0c1ec X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:51:37 - Breather hose is new and updated flat style. On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:49:09 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW, thats ALOT of oil usage, sounds like you might have scored piston walls. Not to be discounted on these cars is a malfunction of the oil separator system in the air cleaner. (Including the baffle of recent discussion, the hoses, etc.) I own the Chicken Wagon because the PO thought the engine was toast. Five minutes with a screwdriver and that dog was converted to something we drove a couple of hundred miles home. Not that we knew anything about it at the time, we just thought that having the breather hose mostly occluded by a clot of rubber snot couldn't be doing it any good. No, it wasn't! The oil reclamation system in the crankcase ventilator depends upon relative pressures being right. The oil in the blowby in this case
Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation
I know others have a different proceedure but back before I knew better on my 300TD I filled just through the bottle but I left the overflow thing on the top of the radiator disconnected and had EXCELLENT results. I filled slowly with the car off and once I had as much as I thought I could fit in I started the engine and let it warm up. Heater on of course. Then as it ran the bottle would empty and I'd keep topping it up. After maybe 5 minutes it was pretty well burped. I put the overflow hose back on and took it for a short ride with the cap loose. Added one more time, then capped it. The next couple days I watched and added maybe once more. Worked slick. -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:24:00 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hmm, ok then, whereabouts is the thermostat located? I can probably find that much in the manual, but here's my bigger question: What's the proper procedure for filling/bleeding the coolant system? I'm not used to the radiator cap being on the overflow bottle, and it doesn't seem like trying to add coolant there (other than occasional topping off) works too well. I believe last time I disconnected the upper radiator hose to fill. Is this what you're supposed to do? Thanks! Levi - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 27 01:07:00 2006 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.182.187]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FNgCC-0003fp-BN for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:07:00 + Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id m19so766355nfc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:06:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OoE/BymrQQHmyfBYQ44kxIQZvSZcmrfQLaJ55CdtXJhpGIdl5T87i4JHywKvna3JI964g3weWrTnW0NuHcQacF3Zx9KnIbphDTUQqD5qBGhI1HOtYcb1954TxJXh+HvC4fOi9HJJbeZ/YnkUvUTsIp2F31+ECohk7KzUrVRuBR8= Received: by 10.49.40.11 with SMTP id s11mr1407641nfj; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.206.4 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:06:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:06:57 -0500 From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] I LOVE the color X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:07:00 - Oh my god. I want it. I want it like Michael Jackson wants a 7-year-old boy. On 3/26/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-Mercedes-Benz-300-Turbo-Diesel-No-Res= erve_W0QQitemZ4625892934QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Another happy day with the 190D
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:51:22 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now I'm glueing up a paper towel to make a coffee sachet to absorb some of the smell. Its alot better than it was but its not a smell I like yet... My wife puts out vinegar for bad smells. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Tire size calculator
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:57:33 -0800, you wrote: Costco has smart lawyers that will not allow you to fit tires that are not specifically pass the buck able. If there were to be issue, some liberal whiner would then sue costco. Best to protect the liberals from themselves as part of corporate policy. They coudn't help me with tyres for my Metropolitan. It uses 5.20 X 13 ! The workaround was to remove the wheels and have them mount 155r-13 on them. Funny World we live in -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 1987 300SDL 240KMI 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 190Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!
Re: [MBZ] I LOVE the color
The interior or exterior colour? Hendrik with a thistle green 230E but has a light tan interior - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:00 AM Subject: [MBZ] I LOVE the color http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-Mercedes-Benz-300-Turbo-Diesel-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4625892934QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/287 - Release Date: 21/03/2006
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
My '83 240D was using/leaking a quart in 700 miles which I considered an obscene amount. I *think* its leaking around the filter base but I never cared enough to bother. Fortunately the 190D hasn't leaked any noticable amount in 2300 miles. -Curt '85 190D Dory 236kmi Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:24:47 -0500 From: John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: WOW, thats ALOT of oil usage, sounds like you might have scored piston walls. Christ, even our 240D didn't burn that much oil with 1 double-holed piston, 1 deeply gouged cylinder liner, 1 piston with cracked rings, and a cracked head! Speaking of, the new motor just went into the car on Friday - http://www.mbdiesel.net/ -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 27 01:45:54 2006 Received: from web32813.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.43]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FNgnp-0004qu-L6 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:45:54 + Received: (qmail 53171 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Mar 2006 01:45:49 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aqrpkBjSRx1K5PTVOgOvTgHH9eot1YECE9QoStYH8V0C6HYzAuS0aMqgMBGeJYZvS3HcrWL0B4OFJZykf5wed8ikeTMzVCaXu2EG9B/Y31Mg38BX+agXQwznhN9vmU9Yo2Ye8Bbl/trAPb6o5enRt/a8uh4l3geW+gYXNyxO3iA= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [24.63.168.75] by web32813.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:45:49 PST Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:45:49 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another happy day with the 190D X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:45:54 - I did some of that a couple weeks ago. My standard first swipe cleaning plan is hot water with vinegar. That helped alot, a gallon of tobacco stained water later some of the funk was gone but then I glued up the plastic thing where you rest your left foot. So the glue smells been stuck in there for awhile. The coffee should do a good job at absorbing that. I had a dorm room in college that had a serious funk when I moved in, I put coffee in a filter and it wasn't long before the funk moved on. -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:11:53 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another happy day with the 190D To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:51:22 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now I'm glueing up a paper towel to make a coffee sachet to absorb some of the smell. Its alot better than it was but its not a smell I like yet... My wife puts out vinegar for bad smells. Craig - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 27 01:50:16 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FNgs1-0004zj-4j for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:50:15 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id 20060327015007m1200jc1e8e; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:50:07 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:50:06 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
Breather hose is new and updated flat style. And how's the drain hose for the separator look? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
Luther Gulseth wrote: 1qt/250-300mi. There is NO way that oil consumption in excess of a qt in 1000 miles will be cured by what you are doing!! When oil consumption gets to a qt in 600 miles Mercedes rates the engine as unreliable and insists it be taken out of service since it can fail without ANY warning (and then there's the matter of pollution). Somewhere something is VERY wrong. I don't know what it is, but it's NOT stuck rings or leaky valve guides or seals. I doubt that it's the turbo seals too, but that's less conclusive then the my discount of rings, valve guides or seals. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] MSRP's of our old cars
can you make a PDF of the 114/115 stuff?
On Friday, March 24, 2006, at 04:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FYI, I have a pretty complete set of Road Track back to the mid 60s
with a
few into the mid 50s. They tested a lot of MBs as well as others and
if
anyone has a question about a specific model it's probably in one of
them.
They didn't test a huge number of diesels but there are a few. Things
like
Base Price and Price as Tested as well as different performance values
are
shown.
If there's something I can look up for you just let me know -.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner
1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] I LOVE the color
Oh yeah. Man, that's a gorgeous color. drool. Lynn 1985 300SD Victoria 204K miles
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
fuck, I thought you were rebuilding it yourself? I bet fucking engine cost a pretty penny. John Ervine wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: what did you do, clean the engine, transmisson, and engine compartment while you had it out? Looks good. The engine is a rebuild from Metric Motors out in California. The injection pump and injectors are from Tom Horvath at Yankee Diesel in Connecticut - very special IP work, should be a very fast (relatively) 240D post break-in - lower no-load max RPM, higher load RPM, and higher fuel delivery in mid-range and up. Donna degreased the engine compartment for the most part - the bottom is still grease-laden, as I found out when bolting up the motor mounts. The transmission was cleaned as best as possible after removal, and then I touched up the top half with some fine steel wool to remove the oxidation. As I mention on at least one page, the photos simply do not do the motor justice. I hated to put the motor in the car, and would have rather set it in my living room. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] tranny filter
is the filter itself the same though? The reason I ask is I was going to drive my 190D to work today. I had a big coolant leak and replaced the waterpump. Was still losing a little bit of coolant and no leaks anywhere. Well I discovered where it was going, leaking out of the radiator into the tranny, had pepto in the tranny. Good thing is the car has not been driven at all except to move it to the back, then back up to the front. So Im going to swap the radiator then change the tranny fluid a couple of times. Luther Gulseth wrote: NO, unless it's a Cali 722.4 in an '85. My 123/126 pans are different than my parents '85D/Cali, which is the same as a '84 190D On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:24:02 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: turbo DIESELS, you know, 123, 126 etc Luther Gulseth wrote: What turbo transmissions On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:16:11 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the tranny filter/gasket used on the turbo transmissions the same as used on a 84 190D? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
report back Luther Gulseth wrote: BUT, after sealing the valve cover baffle Thurs/Fri, I don't see anymore white smoke at idle, and it's hardly there at 3000+RPM. THAT may have been most of my useage. I can put 250 on this week and see if the comsumption is still high. On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:18:41 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I LOVE the color
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Im going to have to remember that line. Sunil Hari wrote: Oh my god. I want it. I want it like Michael Jackson wants a 7-year-old boy. On 3/26/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-Mercedes-Benz-300-Turbo-Diesel-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4625892934QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
Note to all, Kaleb forgot which world he was in. Please disregard this message. On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:33:49 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *edited* I thought you were rebuilding it yourself? I bet that engine cost a pretty penny. John Ervine wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: what did you do, clean the engine, transmisson, and engine compartment while you had it out? Looks good. The engine is a rebuild from Metric Motors out in California. The injection pump and injectors are from Tom Horvath at Yankee Diesel in Connecticut - very special IP work, should be a very fast (relatively) 240D post break-in - lower no-load max RPM, higher load RPM, and higher fuel delivery in mid-range and up. Donna degreased the engine compartment for the most part - the bottom is still grease-laden, as I found out when bolting up the motor mounts. The transmission was cleaned as best as possible after removal, and then I touched up the top half with some fine steel wool to remove the oxidation. As I mention on at least one page, the photos simply do not do the motor justice. I hated to put the motor in the car, and would have rather set it in my living room. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] tranny filter
Filter is the same. On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:35:53 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is the filter itself the same though? The reason I ask is I was going to drive my 190D to work today. I had a big coolant leak and replaced the waterpump. Was still losing a little bit of coolant and no leaks anywhere. Well I discovered where it was going, leaking out of the radiator into the tranny, had pepto in the tranny. Good thing is the car has not been driven at all except to move it to the back, then back up to the front. So Im going to swap the radiator then change the tranny fluid a couple of times. Luther Gulseth wrote: -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
Please disregard last post, thought I was on a different list. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: , I thought you were rebuilding it yourself? I bet xxx engine cost a pretty penny. John Ervine wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: what did you do, clean the engine, transmisson, and engine compartment while you had it out? Looks good. The engine is a rebuild from Metric Motors out in California. The injection pump and injectors are from Tom Horvath at Yankee Diesel in Connecticut - very special IP work, should be a very fast (relatively) 240D post break-in - lower no-load max RPM, higher load RPM, and higher fuel delivery in mid-range and up. Donna degreased the engine compartment for the most part - the bottom is still grease-laden, as I found out when bolting up the motor mounts. The transmission was cleaned as best as possible after removal, and then I touched up the top half with some fine steel wool to remove the oxidation. As I mention on at least one page, the photos simply do not do the motor justice. I hated to put the motor in the car, and would have rather set it in my living room. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] Motor Swap?
Benz Experts, Th clutch on the 77 240D was vaporized today by a new driver. I also think the flywheel ring gear came off. I'm trying to figure out what to salvage. Will the motor from the 77 240D manual install directly into my 73 220D automatic? Resolutely, Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 27 02:54:58 2006 Received: from mout.perfora.net ([217.160.230.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FNhsg-0007Vl-P0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:54:58 + Received: from [209.128.168.31] (helo=lugul) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrelayus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKoyl-1FNhsc0PCz-0007fJ; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:54:56 -0500 Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:05:05 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Opera M2/8.53 (Win32, build 7722) X-Provags-ID: perfora.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] login:b7474d0caa1522f6604e7562a3d0c1ec X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:54:58 - With a nearly dry undercarriage, where else could it be going? Not rings, valve guides, or seals. Could have been valve cover baffle, and might be turbo seals. Is there any other place that can loose oil internally? On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:05:32 -0600, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther Gulseth wrote: 1qt/250-300mi. There is NO way that oil consumption in excess of a qt in 1000 miles will be cured by what you are doing!! When oil consumption gets to a qt in 600 miles Mercedes rates the engine as unreliable and insists it be taken out of service since it can fail without ANY warning (and then there's the matter of pollution). Somewhere something is VERY wrong. I don't know what it is, but it's NOT stuck rings or leaky valve guides or seals. I doubt that it's the turbo seals too, but that's less conclusive then the my discount of rings, valve guides or seals. Marshall -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
[MBZ] Tormenting Kaleb
Another list to offend Kaleb, use delete key as needed http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/145419494.html -- TD $9k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/145449528.html -- MGB $400 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/145413117.html -- $400 jag http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/145387125.html -- 83 SD $3k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/145282599.html -- 84 2.2 5 speed http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/145262701.html -- 85 300d $2200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/145257001.html -- 80 300d $2200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/145223341.html -- 81 SD $3k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/145189663.html -- 85 TD $1400 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/145178362.html -- SD SEL $1k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/145083473.html -- 2.6 sportline $12k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/144994749.html -- TE $5k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/144954971.html -- 83 SD $3500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/144919858.html -- 79 TD $4500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/144813373.html -- 4spd 240D 2 tank If you need me to look, I will see any car here, or any you find -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Motor Swap?
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:54:11 -0800 (PST) B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benz Experts, Th clutch on the 77 240D was vaporized today by a new driver. I also think the flywheel ring gear came off. I'm trying to figure out what to salvage. How would one cause the flywheel ring gear to come off? Will the motor from the 77 240D manual install directly into my 73 220D automatic? Besides the obvious difference between the flywheel and flex plate, If the '77 has the oil filter on top (as in later W123s) and the '73 has it on the bottom (like earlier 220Ds), the answer is most likely no. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Motor Swap?
Craig McCluskey wrote: How would one cause the flywheel ring gear to come off? Heat. However, I think it would work best if the ring gear were heated more than the flywheel, but that's the reverse of what happens when you slip the clutch and heat the flywheel. Mitch
Re: [MBZ] I LOVE the color
Sunil Hari wrote: My first Benz had a reed green exterior with THAT EXACT color of green interior. I want that car for nostalgia and cargo carrying capacity. Anyone know the exact MB names for those colors? Interior looks like 881 Silberdistel and the interior 136 Olive. I like it. Very handy color charts at http://astralsilber.de/ under Lackierungen/Farbcodes and Polsterungen. Tom '82 300D - 681 Weizengelb / 134 Dattel
Re: [MBZ] '87 td for $3900
Too bad Jan left the list. She was looking for a S124 diesel last I knew, although this one might not be good enough for her. Mitch. Sorry for the late reply on this one, my brother passed away this evening. I found another Craig's List listing a while back in Chicago. I posted it and she purchased the car. IIRC it was a nice car for $3500... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] IP seals for Rusty
These are the same used on 300D's, with the splined delivery valve holder, and all OM 60x. I believe the copper rings pn. 0 004-997-45-40 are the same as far back as the OM 621, although I have not checked current part numbers. The o-rings pn. 0 017-997-41-48 may fit older 300Ds and OM 616 and 615 220/240D. At 03:22 PM 3/24/2006, you wrote: The parts fellow could not find the parts because the EPC does not list these for the US 606.962. Goodwin Motorsport is doing a '96 as frybrid and had to get the same parts. Turns out the parts are standard, just not listed right in the EPC. First seal is the same one used for Gump's IP and a host of others. pn. 0 017-997-41-48 second item is listed as seal ring, vl and both euro and japanese 606 use it. pn. 0 004-997-45-40.
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
with that much oil usage, you either have a bad bad leak, broken rings, cracked pistons, scored cylinder walls Luther Gulseth wrote: With a nearly dry undercarriage, where else could it be going? Not rings, valve guides, or seals. Could have been valve cover baffle, and might be turbo seals. Is there any other place that can loose oil internally? On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:05:32 -0600, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther Gulseth wrote: 1qt/250-300mi. There is NO way that oil consumption in excess of a qt in 1000 miles will be cured by what you are doing!! When oil consumption gets to a qt in 600 miles Mercedes rates the engine as unreliable and insists it be taken out of service since it can fail without ANY warning (and then there's the matter of pollution). Somewhere something is VERY wrong. I don't know what it is, but it's NOT stuck rings or leaky valve guides or seals. I doubt that it's the turbo seals too, but that's less conclusive then the my discount of rings, valve guides or seals. Marshall
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
The remanufactured by MB 617 engine I bought for my first '76 300D didn't look that good out of the crate! My 117 engine is now sitting in the SLC, bolted up, drive shaft in place, exhaust buttoned up, etc. THe car is now off the stands - waiting for everything under the hood to be attached --- I haven't updated the page yet (no new photos yet), but your engine does look better than mine! http://pages.sbcglobal.net/danorris/450slc.htm On 3/26/06, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: what did you do, clean the engine, transmisson, and engine compartment while you had it out? Looks good. The engine is a rebuild from Metric Motors out in California. The injection pump and injectors are from Tom Horvath at Yankee Diesel in Connecticut - very special IP work, should be a very fast (relatively) 240D post break-in - lower no-load max RPM, higher load RPM, and higher fuel delivery in mid-range and up. Donna degreased the engine compartment for the most part - the bottom is still grease-laden, as I found out when bolting up the motor mounts. The transmission was cleaned as best as possible after removal, and then I touched up the top half with some fine steel wool to remove the oxidation. As I mention on at least one page, the photos simply do not do the motor justice. I hated to put the motor in the car, and would have rather set it in my living room. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] I LOVE the color
Is that the original radio? Never seen one like that. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 3/26/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-Mercedes-Benz-300-Turbo-Diesel-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4625892934QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation
On 3/26/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is it doing more harm than good if in there and seized? Or is there some sort of bypass so it's just not helping, but not hindering either? The seized motor current can cause trouble with the ACC system, Yeah, I've heard this elsewhere too... cause trouble is an understatement, more like destroy the control unit. An easy prophylactic fix is to put an inline fuse in the secondary pump power circuit---3A, I think. Should be standard procedure with any new-to-you 124. Of course this doesn't explain why my ACC just started acting like the pump has failed (hunting cabin temp at idle but working fine at speed), but the fuse is intact. :( Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
[MBZ] 300TE makes maiden voyage.
After the TD got bit by Bambi in November, I found a 300TE in Warrenton, VA, and bought it (unseen) to use either as parts or to fix and use. It took almost 2 months to get it shipped here, and then i didn't get started on it right away. It was sold as bad Transmission It looked too good to junk. That is always my downfall. Early testing showed the trans to function normally, but the rear suspension had no fluid and the rear tires were for through the belts on the inside. I rebuilt the tandem hydraulic pump, put new rear hydraulic shocks on it. $50 worth of the special hydraulic fluid from Rusty, so far. Then I could not get the flare nuts on the hydraulic tube to break loose, so I waited 2 weeks to get new lines in. This morning I thought I would just stick the lines in, and go. WRONG! I had to take the shocks loose, and remove the rear springs to get the lines in place. Then I replaced the window regulator on the drivers door. Those are tricky to get everything in place and keep the glass in the front channel. Sounds a lot easier so far than it really was! It also had to have a new coil and battery.The bozo that hauled it left the switch on for the 10 days or so until it got here. That ruined the coil and then the battery. The bendix was rusted to the starter shaft. That was the first problem. After I ordered a new starter, I got the old one apart apart, freed the bendix, polished the shaft and coated it with neverseize. I had it running before the starter got in, so I sent the starter back. I also had to put 2 new tires on it, and painted all 4 wheels. I drove it the last 200 miles home tonight. It runs well and handles good, but I don't think it is completely right. This week It will have the LR wheel bearing changed a real bear! I will see what that, an alignment and changing the idler arm bushings does for handling. The engine is like all the MB 6cyl gassers I have been around, very quiet and super smooth. Probably got around 22 mpg driving about 70. Once again, a cheap MB has become a pit to throw time and money into. But, it has the makings of a nice wagon. The finish on the wood does not have a crack. I am guessing someone spent the big bucks to get it refinished. the harnesses for the hatch have been screwed up, and have been laying across the seal, which of course, does not seal now. On the positive, the hatch stays up! Bother hatch pressure struts must be working! It is the first MB wagon I have gotten that has working hatch struts. Rusty is smiling! I've ordered more parts $$ in the last month than probably the last year! I think a blown trans mission would have been a lot faster and cheaper to fix, than the suspension and all the other stuff. I have sunk a lot of time, and have not started on the cosmetic stuff. If anyone has blue interior parts for a 124, I need a speaker cover for the LR door, and the door handle for the RR door. CHeers! Loren 87 TD 88 TE 2 of a kind, white/blue and others
[MBZ] 124 wagon leaks
The 88 300TE is getting water in both rear wheel wells. Under the third seat is also getting wet. When I open the seat back and bottom, the carpet underneath is wet. Can anyone shed light as to what the source of the water is?On the right, I suspect the antenna. Is it possible that all this water is coming from the hatch seal? The harnesses for the hatch have been screwed up, and have been laying across the seal, which of course, does not seal now. It looks like the channel above the seal should take most of the water out. Maybe not Anyone BTDT?
[MBZ] Solenoid Loose
When I went to change out my starter yesterday, I noticed that the solenoid (or at least the assembly onto which the wires connect, and where there is that second terminal, or nut) is loose. It rattles around between your fingers. Obviously this is a problem. Question is: Could tightening it back up (if that's even possible) solve the intermittent starting problem, thus allowing me to return the starter I bought? This weekend as I drove the 240 to a wedding, etc. it always started - did not do what it did before which was absolutely nothing. But I heard a minor but noticeable clack just before the starter jumped to life. Incidentally, I did not change the starter out - mainly because the largest Allen key I have is 10mm. Brian 83 240D
[MBZ] 124 wagon leaks
The 88 300TE is getting water in both rear wheel wells. Under the third seat is also getting wet. When I open the seat back and bottom, the carpet underneath is wet. Can anyone shed light as to what the source of the water is?On the right, I suspect the antenna. Is it possible that all this water is coming from the hatch seal? The harnesses for the hatch have been screwed up, and have been laying across the seal, which of course, does not seal now. It looks like the channel above the seal should take most of the water out. Maybe not Anyone BTDT? Same message, but this time i won't forget to sign it for Marshall! Loren Faeth 88 300 TE et al.
Re: [MBZ] Solenoid Loose
BINGO! that'd do it! If the stud on the solenoid is tight, and only the nut is loose, tighten it and see what happens. It might be a cheap fix. If the stud is loose in the solenoid, you need at least a new solenoid, and the Bosch ones are not cheap. I've been known to buy a used starter just to get a used Bosch solenoid. The brand X solenoids I have tried never last long. At 11:41 PM 3/26/2006, you wrote: When I went to change out my starter yesterday, I noticed that the solenoid (or at least the assembly onto which the wires connect, and where there is that second terminal, or nut) is loose. It rattles around between your fingers. Obviously this is a problem. Question is: Could tightening it back up (if that's even possible) solve the intermittent starting problem, thus allowing me to return the starter I bought? This weekend as I drove the 240 to a wedding, etc. it always started - did not do what it did before which was absolutely nothing. But I heard a minor but noticeable clack just before the starter jumped to life. Incidentally, I did not change the starter out - mainly because the largest Allen key I have is 10mm. Brian 83 240D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Turn Signals Out
I also should ask: The turn signals, which my bro. got to work for me by (I think) removing and cleaning, or just messing with, that little box located near the shifter - well, they're not working anymore. Incidentally the dash lights are also out. I changed the fuse - no help. I have unplugged that box (what's its name?) and plugged it back in and just sort of flogged it lightly, but no help. What would y'all do? Could a burnt out bulb cause the signals to fail alltogether? Probably not - just thinking aloud. I noticed the signals not working the day after we messed around with the various lights, trying out the fog lamps, and the left and right solid indicators (for lack of a better term) - etc. This made me think we'd blown a fuse, but it doesn't look like it's the case. Brian 83 240D
Re: [MBZ] I LOVE the color
The exterior is thistle green and the interior is called frog snot from memory. Hendrik with a rather amusing tale to tellstand by - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I LOVE the color My first Benz had a reed green exterior with THAT EXACT color of green interior. I want that car for nostalgia and cargo carrying capacity. Anyone know the exact MB names for those colors? Another good line is Shake it! Shake it like a British nanny! On 3/26/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Im going to have to remember that line. Sunil Hari wrote: Oh my god. I want it. I want it like Michael Jackson wants a 7-year-old boy. On 3/26/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-Mercedes-Benz-300-Turbo-Diesel-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4625892934QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/287 - Release Date: 21/03/2006
[MBZ] Ya wouldn't read about it
I don't know if you lot remember but a few months ago I bought some clear front indicators for my 123 from America via ebay. They where pretty cheap but the postage to Oz was a killer. Anyway a couple of weeks ago I finally got around to getting some super sexy and expensive amber globes to suit. Due to their cheap construction the clear indicators took a bit of fitting but I got em in there in the end. Now the funny part, I come home today from picking up the kids from school and the missus (who is chief 123 pilot) informs me that she had a slight car park bingle. Yes you guessed it, freshly installed LH indicator is smashed beyond repair. Ahhh well that will teach me for trying to tart the old crate up. Hendrik with one good clear indicator and one smashed clear indicator From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 27 06:07:19 2006 Received: from mail.cnsp.com ([208.3.80.17]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FNkso-0006JY-VM for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:07:19 + Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cnsp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806A718E168; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:07:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.cnsp.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08273-01-9; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:07:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from mccluskey.linux (208-3-82-99.cnsp.net [208.3.82.99]) by mail.cnsp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B0B9D187762; Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:07:15 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:07:14 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at cnsp.com X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Condolences [was; Re: '87 td for $3900] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:07:19 - On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:27:51 -0600 Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the late reply on this one, my brother passed away this evening. I'm very sorry to hear of your loss, Rick. We'll be praying for you. Craig
Re: [MBZ] I LOVE the color
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:19:14 -0600 tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very handy color charts at http://astralsilber.de/ under Lackierungen/Farbcodes and Polsterungen. Speaking about loving a color combination: http://www.astralsilber.de/polsterungen/903.jpg Craig
Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:49:12 -0600 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also should ask: The turn signals, which my bro. got to work for me by (I think) removing and cleaning, or just messing with, that little box located near the shifter - well, they're not working anymore. Incidentally the dash lights are also out. I changed the fuse - no help. I have unplugged that box (what's its name?) and plugged it back in and just sort of flogged it lightly, but no help. What would y'all do? Could a burnt out bulb cause the signals to fail alltogether? Probably not - just thinking aloud. I noticed the signals not working the day after we messed around with the various lights, trying out the fog lamps, and the left and right solid indicators (for lack of a better term) - etc. This made me think we'd blown a fuse, but it doesn't look like it's the case. Try working the hazard switch on-and-off several times and then turn it off solidly. Craig
[MBZ] W123 brake light sockets
I went to wire the unused rear fog lights in my '82 240D/3.0 as extra brake lights and found that there are no sockets there. Does anyone have a couple of extra brake light sockets for a W123? Thanks, Craig
Re: [MBZ] Ya wouldn't read about it
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:33:03 +0930 Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now the funny part, I come home today from picking up the kids from school and the missus (who is chief 123 pilot) informs me that she had a slight car park bingle. Yes you guessed it, freshly installed LH indicator is smashed beyond repair. Ahhh well that will teach me for trying to tart the old crate up. Frustrating, isn't it Hendrick? Sorry for your problems. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Condolences [was; Re: '87 td for $3900]
Most definitely, Rick. Our thoughts are with you. Brian On 3/27/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:27:51 -0600 Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the late reply on this one, my brother passed away this evening. I'm very sorry to hear of your loss, Rick. We'll be praying for you. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out
I also should ask: The turn signals, which my bro. got to work for me by (I think) removing and cleaning, or just messing with, that little box located near the shifter - well, they're not working anymore. Incidentally the dash lights are also out. I changed the fuse - no help. I have unplugged that box (what's its name?) and plugged it back in and just sort of flogged it lightly, but no help. What would y'all do? You messed with the hazard switch, and the instrument lamp dimmer. Both are cranky old farts, and are now punishing you. Mess with them some more until they remember what they are for. Could a burnt out bulb cause the signals to fail altogether? No. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 300TE makes maiden voyage.
hatch stays up! Both hatch pressure struts must be working! It is the first MB wagon I have gotten that has working hatch struts. Odd. The only wagon I have is a picked-over 124 carcass. But the hatch stays up! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Ya wouldn't read about it
Cheers mate but a smashed indicator is just a little thing in the overall scheme of things. I just read that someone lost a brother and that is sad. Hendrik eating McCrappy at the moment and loving it - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ya wouldn't read about it On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:33:03 +0930 Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now the funny part, I come home today from picking up the kids from school and the missus (who is chief 123 pilot) informs me that she had a slight car park bingle. Yes you guessed it, freshly installed LH indicator is smashed beyond repair. Ahhh well that will teach me for trying to tart the old crate up. Frustrating, isn't it Hendrick? Sorry for your problems. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/287 - Release Date: 21/03/2006
Re: [MBZ] 300TE makes maiden voyage.
That old 123 230TE I bought a while back had perfect struts after 400,000kmhs+, unless they had been replaced at some stage. Spose depends what the vehicle did, if it was a mum taxi it may well have strut problems. Hendrik the TE is gone but I am still strutting around - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TE makes maiden voyage. hatch stays up! Both hatch pressure struts must be working! It is the first MB wagon I have gotten that has working hatch struts. Odd. The only wagon I have is a picked-over 124 carcass. But the hatch stays up! -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/287 - Release Date: 21/03/2006
Re: [MBZ] I LOVE the color
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, ms.300SD wrote: And velour too! It's right out of That 70's Show Oh yeah. Man, that's a gorgeous color. drool. Lynn 1985 300SD Victoria 204K miles
Re: [MBZ] I LOVE the color
that's not as cool as the green Tex interior, but I'd take it in a pinch. On 3/27/06, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, ms.300SD wrote: And velour too! It's right out of That 70's Show Oh yeah. Man, that's a gorgeous color. drool. Lynn 1985 300SD Victoria 204K miles ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] '87 td for $3900
I am sorry for your loss Rick, your family is in my prayers. Harry Watkins Newton, MS Sorry for the late reply on this one, my brother passed away this evening. I Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] I LOVE the color
Thanks for the color chart. However, it only goes back to 1975, and my w115 was a 1974 model. But the best approximation to my car's color was nickelgrun, with upholstery code 166 (but it was a glorious green MB Tex). Waxing nostalgic, Sunil. On 3/27/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's not as cool as the green Tex interior, but I'd take it in a pinch. On 3/27/06, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, ms.300SD wrote: And velour too! It's right out of That 70's Show Oh yeah. Man, that's a gorgeous color. drool. Lynn 1985 300SD Victoria 204K miles ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Headlight relays---Kaleb?
Yeah, I'm looking forward to having Joe back on the list, I owe him one or two, uh, its three or four, actually its five or more. Lets see, he sold me his brake bleeder adapter kit, helped me get a spring compressor, provided info for my ball joint tool, told me about Gus Pfister, tried in vain to teach me EPC and ... Hurry back Joe. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans Joe Knight just picked up a set ... Haven't heard anything from him lately. Is he not on this list? Craig
Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out
I was having problems with my blinker [even after changing the blinker fluid twice]. Contact cleaner, many on-off cycles, new blinker made no difference and was returned. Nothing worked, but after all of the efforts - and finally giving up for a time - it just stopped the malfunction [blinker constantly on]. Don't know if that sort of delayed reaction is common, but after you have done all the stuff that should work a couple of times perhaps just giving it a rest would help? For my SD, bad habits seem hard to break. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 273k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 2:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out I also should ask: The turn signals, which my bro. got to work for me by (I think) removing and cleaning, or just messing with, that little box located near the shifter - well, they're not working anymore. Incidentally the dash lights are also out. I changed the fuse - no help. I have unplugged that box (what's its name?) and plugged it back in and just sort of flogged it lightly, but no help. What would y'all do? You messed with the hazard switch, and the instrument lamp dimmer. Both are cranky old farts, and are now punishing you. Mess with them some more until they remember what they are for. Could a burnt out bulb cause the signals to fail altogether? No. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation
OK, so I took a couple trips last night and have a new question... What is correct operating temperature range? I'm sitting at about 90-100C even at around 40F outside temp now. Which I guess might be OK, I'm just not used to seeing it quite that high and wondering if it will stay at that level once it gets warmer out. Are the temps safe all the way up to 120C? Levi In other words... when do I need to worry about overheating? Curt Raymond wrote: I know others have a different proceedure but back before I knew better on my 300TD I filled just through the bottle but I left the overflow thing on the top of the radiator disconnected and had EXCELLENT results. I filled slowly with the car off and once I had as much as I thought I could fit in I started the engine and let it warm up. Heater on of course. Then as it ran the bottle would empty and I'd keep topping it up. After maybe 5 minutes it was pretty well burped. I put the overflow hose back on and took it for a short ride with the cap loose. Added one more time, then capped it. The next couple days I watched and added maybe once more. Worked slick. -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:24:00 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hmm, ok then, whereabouts is the thermostat located? I can probably find that much in the manual, but here's my bigger question: What's the proper procedure for filling/bleeding the coolant system? I'm not used to the radiator cap being on the overflow bottle, and it doesn't seem like trying to add coolant there (other than occasional topping off) works too well. I believe last time I disconnected the upper radiator hose to fill. Is this what you're supposed to do? Thanks! Levi - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the start to worry point is anything above 100*C. Mike PS: Howdy NeighborHow's the weather on your mountain? - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation OK, so I took a couple trips last night and have a new question... What is correct operating temperature range? I'm sitting at about 90-100C even at around 40F outside temp now. Which I guess might be OK, I'm just not used to seeing it quite that high and wondering if it will stay at that level once it gets warmer out. Are the temps safe all the way up to 120C? Levi In other words... when do I need to worry about overheating? Curt Raymond wrote: I know others have a different proceedure but back before I knew better on my 300TD I filled just through the bottle but I left the overflow thing on the top of the radiator disconnected and had EXCELLENT results. I filled slowly with the car off and once I had as much as I thought I could fit in I started the engine and let it warm up. Heater on of course. Then as it ran the bottle would empty and I'd keep topping it up. After maybe 5 minutes it was pretty well burped. I put the overflow hose back on and took it for a short ride with the cap loose. Added one more time, then capped it. The next couple days I watched and added maybe once more. Worked slick. -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:24:00 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hmm, ok then, whereabouts is the thermostat located? I can probably find that much in the manual, but here's my bigger question: What's the proper procedure for filling/bleeding the coolant system? I'm not used to the radiator cap being on the overflow bottle, and it doesn't seem like trying to add coolant there (other than occasional topping off) works too well. I believe last time I disconnected the upper radiator hose to fill. Is this what you're supposed to do? Thanks! Levi - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation
Levi Smith wrote: OK, so I took a couple trips last night and have a new question... What is correct operating temperature range? I'm sitting at about 90-100C even at around 40F outside temp now. Which I guess might be OK, I'm just not used to seeing it quite that high and wondering if it will stay at that level once it gets warmer out. Are the temps safe all the way up to 120C? Levi In other words... when do I need to worry about overheating? If the cooling system is working, you don't have to worry about over heating. The thermostat PREVENT active cooling until the temp reaches 80-85 C. Then it starts to open and slowly opens until the temp reaches about 94 when the thermostat is fully open. Under most conditions the temp will remain between 85-95 all the time, summer and winter. That's NORMAL. The engine fan comes on at about 100 C. The purpose of the system is to keep the temp within the 85-100 range. No damage will be done until the coolant starts to boil. With the coolant an approved mix of antifreeze and water and with the system pressurized as intended, temps up and even above 120 are NO problem (but start to make me nervous). Temps can be expected to exceed 100 under full load climbing a LONG hill, but as long as they drop as soon as the load is lifted when you crest the hill and never exceed 120, there is nothing to be concerned about. They will also exceed 100 in stop and go summer city driving with the AC cranking, but as long as they remain below 120 no harm should be done. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon leaks
Loren Faeth wrote: The 88 300TE is getting water in both rear wheel wells. Under the third seat is also getting wet. When I open the seat back and bottom, the carpet underneath is wet. Can anyone shed light as to what the source of the water is?On the right, I suspect the antenna. Is it possible that all this water is coming from the hatch seal? The harnesses for the hatch have been screwed up, and have been laying across the seal, which of course, does not seal now. It looks like the channel above the seal should take most of the water out. Maybe not Anyone BTDT? The source of the water is often from around the rear side windows (THE STATIONARY ONES) and resealing them is a chore. I haven't heard of the rear hatch seals causing a problem unless the hatch isn't aligned, but if the seal is damaged, that could certainly do it. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: HOLY SMOKES, I thought you were rebuilding it yourself? I bet that DADGUM engine cost a pretty penny. I was planning to rebuild it until we pulled the head and found out that it was cracked. And after pricing out parts for the rebuild, plus machine shop work, plus running around to the machinist, plus taking time off of work for all of the above, the scales evened out to simply paying a couple hundred bucks to *not* have to do any of the above. And we even got to keep the same engine number. ;-) -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
OK Don wrote: I haven't updated the page yet (no new photos yet), but your engine does look better than mine! http://pages.sbcglobal.net/danorris/450slc.htm I was really impressed with the quality of work from the guys at Metric. And Tom @ Yankee Diesel really outdid himself on that IP, too. The rest was just a lot of time and elbow grease on my part. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
Re: [MBZ] I LOVE the color
Sunil Hari wrote: Thanks for the color chart. However, it only goes back to 1975, and my w115 was a 1974 model. But the best approximation to my car's color was nickelgrun, with upholstery code 166 (but it was a glorious green MB Tex). Sorry, I missed the 115 part. There's a /8 paint chart at http://www.strichacht.de/daten.html but no interior colors. Lucky /8s had a wider selection of greens than the staid 123. Tom
Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation
That's what I was looking to hear (and about what I figured, but I wanted to hear it for sure, since I'm not used to the gauge consistently being at these temp ranges) Thanks! Levi Marshall Booth wrote: Levi Smith wrote: OK, so I took a couple trips last night and have a new question... What is correct operating temperature range? I'm sitting at about 90-100C even at around 40F outside temp now. Which I guess might be OK, I'm just not used to seeing it quite that high and wondering if it will stay at that level once it gets warmer out. Are the temps safe all the way up to 120C? Levi In other words... when do I need to worry about overheating? If the cooling system is working, you don't have to worry about over heating. The thermostat PREVENT active cooling until the temp reaches 80-85 C. Then it starts to open and slowly opens until the temp reaches about 94 when the thermostat is fully open. Under most conditions the temp will remain between 85-95 all the time, summer and winter. That's NORMAL. The engine fan comes on at about 100 C. The purpose of the system is to keep the temp within the 85-100 range. No damage will be done until the coolant starts to boil. With the coolant an approved mix of antifreeze and water and with the system pressurized as intended, temps up and even above 120 are NO problem (but start to make me nervous). Temps can be expected to exceed 100 under full load climbing a LONG hill, but as long as they drop as soon as the load is lifted when you crest the hill and never exceed 120, there is nothing to be concerned about. They will also exceed 100 in stop and go summer city driving with the AC cranking, but as long as they remain below 120 no harm should be done. Marshall
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon leaks
Is the leakage between the glass and the side window frame, or between the frame and the body? Or do both need to be resealed? I figured I should start by sitting in the back at a carwash. Short of locating the leaks, I figured the hatch seal was a good place to start. Loren 88 TE et al. At 07:45 AM 3/27/2006, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: The 88 300TE is getting water in both rear wheel wells. Under the third seat is also getting wet. When I open the seat back and bottom, the carpet underneath is wet. Can anyone shed light as to what the source of the water is?On the right, I suspect the antenna. Is it possible that all this water is coming from the hatch seal? The harnesses for the hatch have been screwed up, and have been laying across the seal, which of course, does not seal now. It looks like the channel above the seal should take most of the water out. Maybe not Anyone BTDT? The source of the water is often from around the rear side windows (THE STATIONARY ONES) and resealing them is a chore. I haven't heard of the rear hatch seals causing a problem unless the hatch isn't aligned, but if the seal is damaged, that could certainly do it. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump
I am hoping someone can give me some pointers on what to check here - the car is my wifes 90 300TE with 137K on it. The car was basically parked for the winter and we just started using it again. We took it to my MIL this weekend (about 60 miles), and it was the first time I had driven it other then around the block. Not long into the trip it felt like the steering started to get stiff and tight, almost like there is no power steering. I pulled over and checked the fluid - there was plenty, and it was nice and warm. I moved the plastic plunger thing that is in the middle of the cup up and down and turned it (not sure what this is, but I moved it around). When I got back in the car, I turned the wheels side to side and they turned with little effort. However, back on the road, it seems like it is fighting me around corners and turns. I took it to work today, and at startup I did the side-to-side wheel test again and it feels stiff again. Not sure what else to check - maybe the PS Filter? I figured I would change that and the fluid and go from there, but I am not sure I am looking at the right peice in the puzzle. Thanks in advance, Dave Wakin
[MBZ] Is There a Bulletproof SL?
So...let's say I was going to buy an SL of some sort for The Queen of All Time, Space, and Dimension. Have any proven to be bulletproof ala what I have come to expect from the MBs (read diesels) I've had throughout the years? Thanks for ideas Bob Rentfro '77 300D 151K Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 27 14:35:34 2006 Received: from web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.34]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FNsog-00048n-Hz for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:35:34 + Received: (qmail 87563 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Mar 2006 14:35:31 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZgsueOTyqmFEwzRgJMTkz+p34wOpaT2RNsptfTJgixZ0rIdtCyz9d5+RdF86dc0DFkC4sFcw0AJ1G+E1Y3S2tLxPJ1H/4rG4kb7cCDRIxOPgfwwepwgtKf8MzWRI2sQj3y8BesMJchNnxmxwOvnGJlVLH0ct12I/R9V9nCcOyzs ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:35:30 PST Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:35:30 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] W201 Speakers? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:35:34 - Hey Gang, I'm thinking I want to replace the old rear speakers in my 190D. I've got some money in my paypal account and I figure to get 'em on eBay, even cheap ones should be better than whats there. Anybody know off hand what size I'd need? They look smaller than my 240D had but I know looks can be deceiving. On a side note, Kaleb, am I on your block list or what? I'd asked you awhile ago about bumper trim and you responded but when I responded I was ready to go you never got back to me. I need an amber fog light (all 123 stuff) too so I mailed you about that and got no response. Whats goin on? -Curt - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 27 14:35:44 2006 Received: from [70.184.21.143] (helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1FNsop-00049G-Ql for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:35:44 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:35:50 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:35:44 - The thing is, when the engine has SERIOUS problems like it sounds like luthers has, there will be so much blowby that it will overtake the oil seperator system. Jim Cathey wrote: With a nearly dry undercarriage, where else could it be going? Not rings, valve guides, or seals. Could have been valve cover baffle, and might be turbo seals. Is there any other place that can lose oil internally? Is the inside of the air cleaner excessively oily? That is, has it got worse puddling than a film? -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery
Re: [MBZ] I LOVE the color
yes, its the original becker europa radio Alex Chamberlain wrote: Is that the original radio? Never seen one like that. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 3/26/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-Mercedes-Benz-300-Turbo-Diesel-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4625892934QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
Would a cylinder be able to produce 300psi compression if it had broken rings/cracked pistons/scored cylinder walls??? Remember my compression figures were 300, 300, 380, 335, 360 and the injectors that were coated with carbon the most had the lowest compression. #3 injector was the cleanest, yet dirtier than my 75kmi injectors. Luther ~with that much oil usage, you either have a bad bad leak, broken rings, ~cracked pistons, scored cylinder walls ~ ~Luther Gulseth wrote: ~ With a nearly dry undercarriage, where else could it be going? Not rings, ~ ~ valve guides, or seals. Could have been valve cover baffle, and might be ~ turbo seals. Is there any other place that can loose oil internally? ~ ~ On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:05:32 -0600, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ wrote: -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] W201 Speakers?
not sure, resend your message to me Curt Raymond wrote: Hey Gang, I'm thinking I want to replace the old rear speakers in my 190D. I've got some money in my paypal account and I figure to get 'em on eBay, even cheap ones should be better than whats there. Anybody know off hand what size I'd need? They look smaller than my 240D had but I know looks can be deceiving. On a side note, Kaleb, am I on your block list or what? I'd asked you awhile ago about bumper trim and you responded but when I responded I was ready to go you never got back to me. I need an amber fog light (all 123 stuff) too so I mailed you about that and got no response. Whats goin on? -Curt - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
that is indeed strange. Luther Gulseth wrote: Would a cylinder be able to produce 300psi compression if it had broken rings/cracked pistons/scored cylinder walls??? Remember my compression figures were 300, 300, 380, 335, 360 and the injectors that were coated with carbon the most had the lowest compression. #3 injector was the cleanest, yet dirtier than my 75kmi injectors. Luther -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Is There a Bulletproof SL?
Buy a 107 or 113 and put an OM 617 in it. (Preferably with a 5 speed) Short of that, the 380s with the dual chain are quite reasonable. I think 84 and 85 came from the factory with the dual chain. My daughter has an 85 and it has been serviceable, except for a starter failure that took almost 2 weeks to get a starter here. (DHL, not Rusty) If you don't want a show car, the 380s can be reasonably priced. Someone else can tell you the break between single and dual chain by VIN. Of course a lot of the single chain cars have been converted, but there is no way to tell without taking off a valve cover. The later models with the self storing hard top are nice, but pricey. Buy my daughter an SLK 230 and she will give you her 107. At 08:27 AM 3/27/2006, you wrote: So...let's say I was going to buy an SL of some sort for The Queen of All Time, Space, and Dimension. Have any proven to be bulletproof ala what I have come to expect from the MBs (read diesels) I've had throughout the years? Thanks for ideas Bob Rentfro '77 300D 151K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W124 Factory, Trunk Mounted CD Changer
95 has a different head unit than the 91 Larry is talking about. Don't know if the same CD changer info applies. I also have an Alpine CHM-S630 changer in place of the defunct MB unit in my 95. Any of the CHM series should work. Don't know if Alpine still makes them, though. Yes, the MB changer was made by Alpine. Only difference is the connector to the controller. Believe it or not, that $100 converter is kust a cable with different connectors on each end. Great profit margin, I'm sure. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 3/26/06, ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry: I couldn't read the message you refered to. But maybe this will help: In the trunks of both of my 124's I have mounted Alpine CHM-S620 CD players. I'm not sure that model is still available, I had to go to Ebay to buy one of them. Alpine probably has another new model that does the same trick. It takes a Peripheral Interface MBZALPS to connect the Alpine to the existing wiring harness in the trunk. The stock MB radio in your dash thinks the Alpine is the same player you would pay $800 to get at the stealer. IIRC the Alpines cost between $100 and $200. I suspect the official MB player was probably made by Alpine. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
If I had a camera with me, I'd take pictures of the air cleaner inside. It's barely touched by oil film. When I had it apart several weeks ago, I cleaned it up, half of it was dry and crusty, not fresh oil. Luther ~The thing is, when the engine has SERIOUS problems like it sounds like ~luthers has, there will be so much blowby that it will overtake the oil ~seperator system. ~ ~Jim Cathey wrote: ~ ~With a nearly dry undercarriage, where else could it be going? Not ~rings, ~valve guides, or seals. Could have been valve cover baffle, and might ~be ~turbo seals. Is there any other place that can lose oil internally? ~ ~ ~ Is the inside of the air cleaner excessively oily? That is, has it ~ got worse puddling than a film? ~ ~ -- Jim ~ ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
Remember, the engine did cough and blow a cloud of black smoke for an instant yesterday afternoon, so the Italian tune up driving is starting to have an effect. ~that is indeed strange. ~ ~Luther Gulseth wrote: ~ ~ Would a cylinder be able to produce 300psi compression if it had broken ~rings/cracked pistons/scored cylinder walls??? Remember my compression ~figures were 300, 300, 380, 335, 360 and the injectors that were coated with ~carbon the most had the lowest compression. #3 injector was the cleanest, yet ~dirtier than my 75kmi injectors. ~ ~ Luther ~ ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] Is There a Bulletproof SL?
Bob Rentfro wrote: So...let's say I was going to buy an SL of some sort for The Queen of All Time, Space, and Dimension. Have any proven to be bulletproof ala what I have come to expect from the MBs (read diesels) I've had throughout the years? Best bang for the buck for a daily driver would probably be a double timing chain 380. '84 and '85 had the double row chain from the factory; don't even consider an earlier model that hasn't been converted. By now all the single chain cars have likely either been converted or blown up, unless you find a very low mileage example. Double row chains still need to be replaced every, I think, 100k miles. They were pretty slow (US versions had 155 hp), which keeps the price down, but have Type III climate control, reliable CIS fuel injection, and are full of that old-school Mercedes build- and engineering quality. Your wife won't know it is the slowest and often considered least desirable of the 107s if you don't tell her. Make sure you have any prospects professionally inspected; that aluminum V8 is NOT inexpensive to fix. Everything else on or wrong with the car should come as no surprise to anyone with 123 experience. Tom
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
Remember, the engine did cough and blow a cloud of black smoke for an instant yesterday afternoon, so the Italian tune up driving is starting to have an effect. Aren't powdered rings black? :-) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
The thing is, when the engine has SERIOUS problems like it sounds like Luther's has, there will be so much blowby that it will overtake the oil separator system. True, but wouldn't such blowby manifest itself with the oil filler cap off? A plume like Vesuvius? If I had a camera with me, I'd take pictures of the air cleaner inside. It's barely touched by oil film. When I had it apart several weeks ago, I cleaned it up, half of it was dry and crusty, not fresh oil. That doesn't _sound_ like a serious blowby problem. Keep romping on it, maybe you'll be lucky. Once it is running better maybe you could take your compression numbers again. See if they changed. Ditto with your oil consumption figures. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
Luther, If we break down the problem a bit, first assume head and head gasket is OK. So compression can be low because of: 1) poor seating valves 2) bad sealing of piston rings 3) Valve timing 4) air intake (valve duration and air flow) Now if we assume vavle seats and piston rings are good then poor compression could be: Camshaft timing is ruled out since all cylinders are not low. Carboned intake not letting air come into cylinder is a possibility but low likely hood. Then there is also worn intake cam lobes not opening intake valves fully. Note worn exhaust valve lobs will usually cause high compression readings, while worn intake causes lower readings (no air coming in nothing to compress). As I recall the first movement of compression gauge is a good indication of rings. That is the first time the compression gauge's needle moves it should be 75%(as I recall) of the maximum reading if not then you usually have worn rings or cylinder walls. As far as oil consumption I would check turbo first, if the turbo seals are gone it will use oil and may only use oil during hard acceleration. Also if turbo oil seals are bad this will increase intake carbon build up. I know Marshall says intake carbon causing problem is rare. Also if you have a cylinder or two which have had a bad injector then the compression will be lower on those cylinders due to rings not seating. That is the pressure in the cylinder help rings seal to cylinder walls. Thus carbon and other build up can prevent the sealing. My recommendation is to run some diesel purge and do a few lead foot tune ups, then check compression. Note that my worn out OM617 has 250PSI on one cylinder which causes a miss at idle, and car to be a bit slow. It uses/leaks about 2 quarts in 5k miles. I have tried and tried to blow the thing up, but at last it may drive to the bone yard. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 9:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update Would a cylinder be able to produce 300psi compression if it had broken rings/cracked pistons/scored cylinder walls??? Remember my compression figures were 300, 300, 380, 335, 360 and the injectors that were coated with carbon the most had the lowest compression. #3 injector was the cleanest, yet dirtier than my 75kmi injectors. Luther ~with that much oil usage, you either have a bad bad leak, broken rings, ~cracked pistons, scored cylinder walls ~ ~Luther Gulseth wrote: ~ With a nearly dry undercarriage, where else could it be going? Not rings, ~ ~ valve guides, or seals. Could have been valve cover baffle, and might be ~ turbo seals. Is there any other place that can loose oil internally? ~ ~ On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:05:32 -0600, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ wrote: -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,222 kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] OM 603 on Ebay
THE HEAD NUMBER IS P6030161401 says the seller - that's a 14, isn't it? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-1987-OM-603-in-line-six-turbo-Diesel-Engine_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33615QQitemZ8050697223QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW THanks! Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 27 15:29:37 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.192.84]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FNtez-0007CW-D9 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:29:37 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id 20060327152933m1400spd7te; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:29:33 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:29:32 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:29:37 - Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 3/26/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is it doing more harm than good if in there and seized? Or is there some sort of bypass so it's just not helping, but not hindering either? The seized motor current can cause trouble with the ACC system, Yeah, I've heard this elsewhere too... cause trouble is an understatement, more like destroy the control unit. An easy prophylactic fix is to put an inline fuse in the secondary pump power circuit---3A, I think. Should be standard procedure with any new-to-you 124. Of course this doesn't explain why my ACC just started acting like the pump has failed (hunting cabin temp at idle but working fine at speed), but the fuse is intact. :( Common cause of the 124 heating system misbehaving is the coolant level being a little low OR the aspirator fan (located to the right side of the glove box) or the cabin temp sensor misbehaving. In addition, cold solder joints or dirty switch contacts in the pushbutton box can cause numerous glitches. A 2A fuse for the aux water pump is best. As I recall, the pump draws about 1.8 A when working properly. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 on Ebay
yes Christopher McCann wrote: THE HEAD NUMBER IS P6030161401 says the seller - that's a 14, isn't it? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-1987-OM-603-in-line-six-turbo-Diesel-Engine_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33615QQitemZ8050697223QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW THanks! Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Is There a Bulletproof SL?
So...let's say I was going to buy an SL of some sort for The Queen of All Time, Space, and Dimension. Have any proven to be bulletproof ala what I have come to expect from the MBs (read diesels) I've had throughout the years? Best bang for the buck for a daily driver would probably be a double timing chain 380. '84 and '85 had the double row chain from the factory; don't even consider an earlier model that hasn't been converted. By now all the single chain cars have likely either been converted or blown up, unless you find a very low mileage example. Double row chains still need to be replaced every, I think, 100k miles. Yes, V8's are much harder on chains than I6's, that poor chain goes through a lot more serious bends on its way around. They were pretty slow (US versions had 155 hp), which keeps the price down, but have Type III climate control, reliable CIS fuel injection, and are full of that old-school Mercedes build- and engineering quality. You can of course go a little older and ditch the ACC systems altogether. I wouldn't go quite so old as to get into the D-Jet FI system. PLUG Our for-sale '76 model has been actually quite reliable on the whole once its years of neglect were sorted out. The freak torque converter failure (prior to our ownership) was the only weird thing, a rare but not-unheard-of metallurgical failure that didn't do any real harm, just made it dog-slow off the line. We have driven it a lot, during its time as a daily driver it got the second-most mileage piled on it next to the SDL. It always went. It was just down a lot from time to time because I couldn't keep from trying to enhance it! Anyway here's the link: http://cathey.dogear.com/JSLsale.html /PLUG Make sure you have any prospects professionally inspected; that aluminum V8 is NOT inexpensive to fix. Everything else on or wrong with the car should come as no surprise to anyone with 123 experience. Yeah, I agree. As a gasser it's going to wear the valves more than a diesel, I'm led to expect that top-end work may well be needed if you drive them enough. The 107 body, like the 114/115/116, is a rust magnet but fortunately many more of them were treated well. If you stay on top of it and keep them out of the salt they hold up just fine. I love the 107, that's why we have three of them. I love my wife, that's why I'm trying to sell one! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation
Yeah, I've heard this elsewhere too... cause trouble is an understatement, more like destroy the control unit. It depends on the vintage. I think some later ones are protected against damage, though will still act funny. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation
Hmm, would happen to be the motor looking thing up in the right front fender right behind the headlights? Seems like I recall there being something there that I was thinking might be that pump... Thanks! Levi Jim Cathey wrote: So is it doing more harm than good if in there and seized? Or is there some sort of bypass so it's just not helping, but not hindering either? The seized motor current can cause trouble with the ACC system, but I'm told that it doesn't impede coolant flow too badly. It's just a simple impeller pump, so it flows through OK even when stopped. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 on Ebay
ugh. Thanks, Chris (praying it's ONLY a head gasket). Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes Christopher McCann wrote: THE HEAD NUMBER IS P6030161401 says the seller - that's a 14, isn't it? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-1987-OM-603-in-line-six-turbo-Diesel-Engine_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33615QQitemZ8050697223QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW THanks! Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 212K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 27 15:58:10 2006 Received: from web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.41]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FNu6c-JH-Lf for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:58:10 + Received: (qmail 88435 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Mar 2006 15:58:07 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QaVibqADLuac6wRhkRhouqtq1NyuxVRqn/gSQMF11R2BxfpP8d26Nb8EAU6ajPYZNGuBBqfjQfXTp0aL1qqagIkQlFiKARgUMO7KXoufWpNQ86dkqb8esNsRzYF4VDrvhFEA4WzjEUkyQE9Lfc7GEk1eT70csIc5fxr40Yzd4qw= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:58:07 PST Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:58:07 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:58:11 - Maybe a candidate for AutoRX? I was thinking to run a can through my 240D but then I sold it. May suggest the new owner do it to see if it helps. That engine is using a quart in about 800 miles which has been ever so slowly improving since I switched to synthetic oil 30-40,000 miles ago. -Curt Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:14:18 -0800 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed The thing is, when the engine has SERIOUS problems like it sounds like Luther's has, there will be so much blowby that it will overtake the oil separator system. True, but wouldn't such blowby manifest itself with the oil filler cap off? A plume like Vesuvius? If I had a camera with me, I'd take pictures of the air cleaner inside. It's barely touched by oil film. When I had it apart several weeks ago, I cleaned it up, half of it was dry and crusty, not fresh oil. That doesn't _sound_ like a serious blowby problem. Keep romping on it, maybe you'll be lucky. Once it is running better maybe
Re: [MBZ] 300TE makes maiden voyage.
Jim, Does it have tailights that you'd like to sell?? Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon leaks
Loren Faeth wrote: The 88 300TE is getting water in both rear wheel wells. Under the third seat is also getting wet. When I open the seat back and bottom, the carpet underneath is wet. Can anyone shed light as to what the source of the water is?On the right, I suspect the antenna. Is it possible that all this water is coming from the hatch seal? The harnesses for the hatch have been screwed up, and have been laying across the seal, which of course, does not seal now. It looks like the channel above the seal should take most of the water out. Maybe not Anyone BTDT? Same message, but this time i won't forget to sign it for Marshall! and I already answered 'cause I knew it was you Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] The M100 experience, was Re: Mercedes Supersedans
George Gregory wrote: Yabbut you should call when you go out west to Kemps so we can meet up. I'm always here (usually) I'm actually headed out there right now and I've been meaning to give you a call, too. Wednesday or Thursday would be good days to stop by. I'll be (hopefully) finishing up the brakes on the '54 220 Cab A today or tomorrow, and then work begins on the Shah's Gullwing. Drove the 600 in a wedding Saturday night, allowing the chance to take it on a longer interstate cruise. Simply amazing car in every respect. I don't think even a gold-plated Rolls Royce with a back seat full of naked girls would attract as much attention as a Grosser. Tom
Re: [MBZ] Citabria
I have a friend who has done the same thing with, I think, the same airplane. He has since moved on to a (forgive me if my spelling is wrong etc.) a Christian Eagle and then after that to a Pitt's Special. Haven't talked to him for a bit so I don't know if he still has his share of the Pitt's or not. I know he has also done some stints as a bush pilot up north and I think as a crop duster here fairly locally. He is early 50's now so may be starting to move away from all that. However, he did buy a big Harley last summer so who knows. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Citabria It's a beefed up, somewhat up-dated Aeronica Champ built by Bellanca. I flew one primarily to tow sailplane students - absolutely the most exciting flying I've ever done. Definitely more exciting than flying the Citabria up-side-down even. The original Champ was designed for 65 HP. The Citabria is quite a performer with 150 HP. (Compared to everything else I flew - all little planes). --
Re: [MBZ] Ya wouldn't read about it
Hendrik, I've been looking for the same ones for my 124 to go with the new Euro lights. (and YES, my euro's are Bosch!) Anyhoo, there is at least one seller I saw that was in Hong Kong which should be cheaper for shipping. If I see him again, I'll forward his info to you. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] 124 Wagon Steering - Possible Bad Power Steering Pump
Dave Wakin wrote: I am hoping someone can give me some pointers on what to check here - the car is my wifes 90 300TE with 137K on it. The car was basically parked for the winter and we just started using it again. We took it to my MIL this weekend (about 60 miles), and it was the first time I had driven it other then around the block. Not long into the trip it felt like the steering started to get stiff and tight, almost like there is no power steering. I pulled over and checked the fluid - there was plenty, and it was nice and warm. I moved the plastic plunger thing that is in the middle of the cup up and down and turned it (not sure what this is, but I moved it around). When I got back in the car, I turned the wheels side to side and they turned with little effort. However, back on the road, it seems like it is fighting me around corners and turns. I took it to work today, and at startup I did the side-to-side wheel test again and it feels stiff again. Not sure what else to check - maybe the PS Filter? I figured I would change that and the fluid and go from there, but I am not sure I am looking at the right peice in the puzzle. PS pumps fail. Sometimes by leaking and sometimes by not pumping. I could IMAGINE it pumping okay when cold and poorly when hot. The high pressure line CAN become occluded (not unusual if the car has had a front end collision - the hose LOOKS fine) and this might be worse when hot than cold. If the ball joints rust up (NOT unusual for a car that sits for months) the steering can get VERY stiff, but it's NOT usually temperature sensitive. Only new ball joints will fix that. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] '83 300D winter heat generation
Jim Cathey wrote: Yeah, I've heard this elsewhere too... cause trouble is an understatement, more like destroy the control unit. It depends on the vintage. I think some later ones are protected against damage, though will still act funny. The regulator that protects the '87 and later climate control circuits WILL burn up if the pump isn't repaired pretty soon. That's the reason for the fuse! Also the regulator shuts off the aux pump AND the blower motor when the combined current drain exceeds the design value! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
