Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

2006-03-30 Thread OK Don
None, by it's self. It does allow you to increase the fuel delivery,
and that increases power. The issue is at least partially that exhaust
heat increases too much with the added fuel - melts/burns critical
parts - unless you can control it. By cooling the air entering the
combustion chamber, you should be lowering the temp of the gasses that
exit.

I'm following these experiments with a hope of trying them myself someday ---

On 3/29/06, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What kind of horse power boost does intercooling and/or water injection add?


 Trampas


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Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread Gary Hurst
we used to sell those just about every day.  last i remember they were $85
for the set of 3, but not sure what they cost now

On 3/29/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#diesel

 About $100 for 2 of the bent wrench and one of the other.

 Randy B

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 Subject: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?



 So I just looked on ebay and a pair of bent 14mm box ,
 valve adjustment, wrenches were going for $$$65.00...
 Zoiks! I say!!! Seems high...


 I don't have the ability to heat and bend my own, so
 does anyone know of a better deal out there?


 Thanks in advance!




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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs Fedex

2006-03-30 Thread Bill Gallagher
Look to me the PO guys are displaying Nationalism .I see it at time 
with customs at the US border coming back to the US.

   Why do you leave the US, don't like it, is a common question 

Bill
1981 300 TD


andrew strasfogel wrote:

My local PO (NW D.C.) is open 7 days a week and practically empty late
afternoons Sat. and Sun.  Still, some of the clerks seem to take immense
satisfaction in putting me down because I am not prepared with the proper
forms for sending stuff to Canada  Fedex is convenient, UPS less so.



On 3/28/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Tom Hargrave wrote:


I've given up on both and ship through the post office these days.

  

I find the post office is cheaper for most items, but UPS becomes
cheaper if the item is very heavy.  Also, UPS has real package tracking
and doesn't charge extra for it, whereas the Post Office charges extra
and can only tell you whether or not the carrier claims it was
delivered.  The biggest thing for me is the convenience factor, though.
Going to the post office means spending 15 minutes waiting in line,
sometimes more if it's within a month or so of Christmas.  With UPS I
can be done in under five minutes.  The Post Office is also only open
until five, requiring me to sacrifice my lunch hour, while UPS is open
late.

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone parting out a 126?

2006-03-30 Thread Loren Faeth
Was this specific to later years?  I have an 84 280SEL for parts.  I don't 
remember seeing any speakers under the seats, but I wasn't looking either.


Tchüß!

Loren

At 01:17 PM 3/29/2006, you wrote:

Kaleb?

I'm looking for 4 (that'd be 2 sets) of the mini-woofers/ bass modules
that 126 models with premium sound had under the rear seats.

TIA
Mike


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[MBZ] 240D console

2006-03-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
Having just gotten back from Rusty the console for our 240D/3.0, and
reinstalled it with a new radio, my dog just chewed it up (from the rear
seat).

So, I'm looking for a 240D console for a car with the A/C temperature
wheel.

Anyone know where I can get one? (And don't say the local salvage yard,
because there isn't any.)


Craig



Re: [MBZ] UPS vs Fedex

2006-03-30 Thread Jeff Zedic

I get  simliar thing going into the US.

How do you know people in the US?
Have you ever been arrested?
NO
Are you sure about that?
YES
I'll ask you one more time..

Has everyone in the US been arrested?? Why do they never believe me?? Is 
it my looks?? (see FRAPPR)


I almost prefer the guy that I had one time very late at night who was 
more interested in shining the butt of his nickel plated glock. mind 
you that was years ago!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD



Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread Loren Faeth
I never used the official  wrenches.  I have never even seen them, other 
than in pictures.  I have always used just plain open end (combination) 
14mm wrenches.  You need one that is thin.  Lately I have been using a 
cheap combination wrench that has been ground to make the jaws thinner, for 
the bottom nut.  I have never needed a big wrench.  YOu need to watch the 
spring cap (where the big wrench goes) to be sure you compensate if it 
turns.  Most of the time, if the valve is closed as it must be to adjust, 
the valve cap will not turn.  There is an art to knowing where to set the 
top nut so when you tighten it and the lock nut together, the gap is 
right.  Don't expect to get it right the first time.  You may have to do 
some valves many times before you gat that particular one right.  when you 
think you have them all right,  turn the crank over and check each pair 
again as they come up.  (You will notice that 2 cam lobes will be pointing 
more or less up at  the same time, one intake and one exhaust)  When you 
can do this repeatedly and get the same reading, then you are ok.


I used to have an old S wrench that was 1/2 x 9/16 open end.  If worked 
perfectly to fit around the cam towers and injectors to hold the lock 
nut.  The ground down cheapo 14 mm is its replacement.


You also need to get the feel of how to use feeler gauges.  it is right 
when the proper thickness gauge can slide in the gap, but there is a 
noticeable resistance.  If you have to force it in, you are too tight.  If 
it has no resistance, the valve is too loose.  There are also go-no-go 
feeler gauges.  These have two thicknesses on each blade.  My set was from 
Snears.  The thick part was .002 inch thicker than the thin part.  I will 
often work with two blades out, one at the setting I want, and the other 
.001 thicker.  I want the first to go and the second not to go in.  It 
isn't necessary, but it is a way to check your work as you go.  I believe 
in being verdamt sure the valves are right before i put the cover back 
on.  I have never burned a valve from misadjustment in 30+ years.


Tchüß!

Loren
(Adjusting valves since 1969.  Adjusting MB Diesel valves since 1972

At 05:25 PM 3/29/2006, you wrote:


So I just looked on ebay and a pair of bent 14mm box ,
valve adjustment, wrenches were going for $$$65.00...
Zoiks! I say!!! Seems high...


I don't have the ability to heat and bend my own, so
does anyone know of a better deal out there?


Thanks in advance!




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Re: [MBZ] 124 - What to do when the subframe's down?

2006-03-30 Thread Loren Faeth
If your car has been driven in salt at all, I would seriously consider 
replacing the fuel and brake lines.  On my SDL, the subframe was down in 
Nov 2004.  We did not replace the lines, though i thought about it 
seriously.  I did look the lines over closely, and thought they looked ok, 
so even though my better judgement said to leave the car down for a week or 
so to get the lines in, we did not do it.


In mid December, 2004, the fuel lines started leaking, up over the axle, 
where they are impossible to replace without pulling the subframe.  Fuel 
and brake lines look ok, but leak under the clamps, where you can't see the 
rust.


I paid $200 to have an independent shop in Memphis put in a section of hose 
to plug the leaks until I could get it fixed right.


Tchüß!

Loren




[MBZ] OH LT Don

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Diesel-Classic-wanna-be-greese-car-needs-TLC_W0QQitemZ4625842295QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mechanics-SPECIAL-190-TURBO-Diesel-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4626749011QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#mainImage
--
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 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] OH LT Don

2006-03-30 Thread LT Don
The car starts up good and runs fine, but the engine gets hot and steam
comes out of the overflow.  I put a head gasket in it (not fun) but it
didn't fix the problem and now I'm sick of it and ready to take a loss.

What do you guys think the issue is? And this is pre-W123, isn't it?

I am just now getting the Loren car finally sorted out and fun-to-drive.
That makes four cars (plus a motorcycle) for three drivers. Debbie has told
me, and I quote: You will NOT turn into a Kaleb!

But $500 dollar reserve and not too far away. Aw Geeze, 

On 3/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Diesel-Classic-wanna-be-greese-car-needs-TLC_W0QQitemZ4625842295QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
   90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
   84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread LT Don
Hey, he just paid $15 for:

1984 FORD PICKUP TRUCK BROCHURE-F150-F250 HD-F350-4X4


Do you really think this is a Benz sort of guy?

Go on, put in an esnipe bid and THEN tell him he is an idiot.

D.




On 3/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Im not sure if I have the heart to tell him


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-300sd-DIESEL-mercedes-benz-Grey-Market-Vehicle_W0QQitemZ4626938368QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
   90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
   84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
 http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread OK Don
What he said!  My experience, almost exactly.

On 3/29/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I never used the official  wrenches.  I have never even seen them, other
 than in pictures.  I have always used just plain open end (combination)
 14mm wrenches.  You need one that is thin.  Lately I have been using a
 cheap combination wrench that has been ground to make the jaws thinner, for
 the bottom nut.  I have never needed a big wrench.  YOu need to watch the
 spring cap (where the big wrench goes) to be sure you compensate if it
 turns.  Most of the time, if the valve is closed as it must be to adjust,
 the valve cap will not turn.  There is an art to knowing where to set the
 top nut so when you tighten it and the lock nut together, the gap is
 right.  Don't expect to get it right the first time.  You may have to do
 some valves many times before you gat that particular one right.  when you
 think you have them all right,  turn the crank over and check each pair
 again as they come up.  (You will notice that 2 cam lobes will be pointing
 more or less up at  the same time, one intake and one exhaust)  When you
 can do this repeatedly and get the same reading, then you are ok.

 I used to have an old S wrench that was 1/2 x 9/16 open end.  If worked
 perfectly to fit around the cam towers and injectors to hold the lock
 nut.  The ground down cheapo 14 mm is its replacement.

 You also need to get the feel of how to use feeler gauges.  it is right
 when the proper thickness gauge can slide in the gap, but there is a
 noticeable resistance.  If you have to force it in, you are too tight.  If
 it has no resistance, the valve is too loose.  There are also go-no-go
 feeler gauges.  These have two thicknesses on each blade.  My set was from
 Snears.  The thick part was .002 inch thicker than the thin part.  I will
 often work with two blades out, one at the setting I want, and the other
 .001 thicker.  I want the first to go and the second not to go in.  It
 isn't necessary, but it is a way to check your work as you go.  I believe
 in being verdamt sure the valves are right before i put the cover back
 on.  I have never burned a valve from misadjustment in 30+ years.

 Tchüß!

 Loren
 (Adjusting valves since 1969.  Adjusting MB Diesel valves since 1972


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'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread OK Don
I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?

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 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mechanics-SPECIAL-190-TURBO-Diesel-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4626749011QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#mainImage
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK


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'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote:
 
 I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?

I don't know. My 190 turbo has a hood star and working tranny, and
the same color interior, but I'm not traveling to Maryland to pick
up another project car.



Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread Sunil Hari
What's wrong with the car?  Can it really be a grey-market car if the gauges
are all in English units?

On 3/29/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey, he just paid $15 for:

 1984 FORD PICKUP TRUCK BROCHURE-F150-F250 HD-F350-4X4


 Do you really think this is a Benz sort of guy?

 Go on, put in an esnipe bid and THEN tell him he is an idiot.

 D.




 On 3/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Im not sure if I have the heart to tell him
 
 
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-300sd-DIESEL-mercedes-benz-Grey-Market-Vehicle_W0QQitemZ4626938368QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
  --
  Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Kevin
On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:
 I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?

I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. 

K



Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread Loren Faeth
Looks like a stock US SD that was made in Germany  therefore, it is 
unusual!  Therefore Kleb says he is an idiot. Looks like the parents kept 
whatever brains were in the family.



At 10:20 PM 3/29/2006, you wrote:

What's wrong with the car?  Can it really be a grey-market car if the gauges
are all in English units?

On 3/29/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey, he just paid $15 for:

 1984 FORD PICKUP TRUCK BROCHURE-F150-F250 HD-F350-4X4


 Do you really think this is a Benz sort of guy?

 Go on, put in an esnipe bid and THEN tell him he is an idiot.

 D.




 On 3/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Im not sure if I have the heart to tell him
 
 
 
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-300sd-DIESEL-mercedes-benz-Grey-Market-Vehicle_W0QQitemZ4626938368QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OH LT Don

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If he replaced the head gasket and it still gets hot, the problem had to 
be elsewhere.  The heads/gaskets are just not a problem on those cars. 
What freaking cars do you have anyways?


LT Don wrote:


The car starts up good and runs fine, but the engine gets hot and steam
comes out of the overflow.  I put a head gasket in it (not fun) but it
didn't fix the problem and now I'm sick of it and ready to take a loss.

What do you guys think the issue is? And this is pre-W123, isn't it?

I am just now getting the Loren car finally sorted out and fun-to-drive.
That makes four cars (plus a motorcycle) for three drivers. Debbie has told
me, and I quote: You will NOT turn into a Kaleb!

But $500 dollar reserve and not too far away. Aw Geeze, 

On 3/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Diesel-Classic-wanna-be-greese-car-needs-TLC_W0QQitemZ4625842295QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
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 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I just sent him a message letting him know that his car is not grey 
market and that the 300SD was a US only model.


LT Don wrote:

Hey, he just paid $15 for:

1984 FORD PICKUP TRUCK BROCHURE-F150-F250 HD-F350-4X4


Do you really think this is a Benz sort of guy?

Go on, put in an esnipe bid and THEN tell him he is an idiot.

D.




On 3/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Im not sure if I have the heart to tell him


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-300sd-DIESEL-mercedes-benz-Grey-Market-Vehicle_W0QQitemZ4626938368QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
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 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

300SD's are all US cars.

Sunil Hari wrote:


What's wrong with the car?  Can it really be a grey-market car if the gauges
are all in English units?

On 3/29/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey, he just paid $15 for:

1984 FORD PICKUP TRUCK BROCHURE-F150-F250 HD-F350-4X4


Do you really think this is a Benz sort of guy?

Go on, put in an esnipe bid and THEN tell him he is an idiot.

D.




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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

the 722.4 does not have a b2 piston

Kevin wrote:

On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:


I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?



I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. 


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Re: [MBZ] OH LT Don

2006-03-30 Thread Jim Cathey

What do you guys think the issue is? And this is pre-W123, isn't it?


Yeah, that's a W115.  Gump, Frankenheap, etc.  I have no idea what
the problem could be, assuming he _did_ actually put the head back
on right.  They aren't prone to cracking or anything, but it
certainly can have happened.  The odds are against it, but
obviously something is wrong.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 240D console

2006-03-30 Thread Jim Cathey

Anyone know where I can get one? (And don't say the local salvage yard,
because there isn't any.)


The consoles in the U-Pull are almost always ruined before
I ever see them.  People tend to pry out what they want
with crowbars there.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 240D console

2006-03-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:53:06 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Anyone know where I can get one? (And don't say the local salvage
  yard, because there isn't any.)
 
 The consoles in the U-Pull are almost always ruined before
 I ever see them.  People tend to pry out what they want
 with crowbars there.

That's not encouraging.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

2006-03-30 Thread Dave M.
By themselves, none. But they do allow  you to jack up the fuel
delivery (relatively) safely, without destroying the motor. Seems most
stock Bosch pumps can't deliver more than, say, 20-25% power gain over
stock, without modifying the pump via larger elements. So on an OM603,
that should take us from 148hp (stock) to something around 170-180hp
with stock pump, exhaust, and turbo. If you're willing to change the
intake, exhast, and send the pump to Myna Diesel, the sky is the
limt... the Finns have dyno charts showing 450hp from a stock
long-block 603.

:)

-dm

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 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:36:55 -0500
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update


 What kind of horse power boost does intercooling and/or water injection add?


 Trampas



Re: [MBZ] /8

2006-03-30 Thread Dimitri Seretakis


  The Chev is now a valuable collector car. The 
/8s ain't.

  Don't know about that.  According to Mercedes Classic Magazine (? issue 2 yrs 
ago), the /8 is achieving collector status, at least in Germany.  The car was a 
mundane model and therefore accessible to middle class folk.  The car is 
therefore dear in the the hearts of many 30 year olds like myself who grew up 
with these cars.
   
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My understanding is it's better to have them on the loose side if your 
having problems getting it just right vs. tight.  Is this right?

Dennis Perkins
84 300SD

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I never used the official  wrenches.  I have never even seen them, other
than in pictures.  I have always used just plain open end (combination)
14mm wrenches.  You need one that is thin.  Lately I have been using a
cheap combination wrench that has been ground to make the jaws thinner, for
the bottom nut.  I have never needed a big wrench.  YOu need to watch the
spring cap (where the big wrench goes) to be sure you compensate if it
turns.  Most of the time, if the valve is closed as it must be to adjust,
the valve cap will not turn.  There is an art to knowing where to set the
top nut so when you tighten it and the lock nut together, the gap is
right.  Don't expect to get it right the first time.  You may have to do
some valves many times before you gat that particular one right.  when you
think you have them all right,  turn the crank over and check each pair
again as they come up.  (You will notice that 2 cam lobes will be pointing
more or less up at  the same time, one intake and one exhaust)  When you
can do this repeatedly and get the same reading, then you are ok.

I used to have an old S wrench that was 1/2 x 9/16 open end.  If worked
perfectly to fit around the cam towers and injectors to hold the lock
nut.  The ground down cheapo 14 mm is its replacement.

You also need to get the feel of how to use feeler gauges.  it is right
when the proper thickness gauge can slide in the gap, but there is a
noticeable resistance.  If you have to force it in, you are too tight.  If
it has no resistance, the valve is too loose.  There are also go-no-go
feeler gauges.  These have two thicknesses on each blade.  My set was from
Snears.  The thick part was .002 inch thicker than the thin part.  I will
often work with two blades out, one at the setting I want, and the other
.001 thicker.  I want the first to go and the second not to go in.  It
isn't necessary, but it is a way to check your work as you go.  I believe
in being verdamt sure the valves are right before i put the cover back
on.  I have never burned a valve from misadjustment in 30+ years.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D console

2006-03-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
AAAaackk! That's a fear of mine. My late Dobie was reliable (could leave a
fresh biscuit on the dash and leave him in the car for hours (at night -
temperate weather) and it would be untouched when I'd come back. But I have
a maniac of a 1 year old now. Whole new ball game. Sorry to hear about your
console!

Brian
83 240D


On 3/29/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:53:06 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Anyone know where I can get one? (And don't say the local salvage
   yard, because there isn't any.)
 
  The consoles in the U-Pull are almost always ruined before
  I ever see them.  People tend to pry out what they want
  with crowbars there.

 That's not encouraging.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread B Dike
The bent wrenches are totally unnecessary.  Valve adjustments are  easy to do 
with standard open end wrenches, just use a good light so  you can see exactly 
where to place them.  The only thing you might  consider is file or grind one 
down to make it a tad thinner to grab the  lower nut.
  
  Bruce

hue wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
So I just looked on ebay and a pair of bent 14mm box ,
valve adjustment, wrenches were going for $$$65.00...
Zoiks! I say!!! Seems high...


I don't have the ability to heat and bend my own, so
does anyone know of a better deal out there?


Thanks in advance!




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 The consoles in the U-Pull are almost always ruined before
 I ever see them.  People tend to pry out what they want
 with crowbars there.

 -- Jim
Don't get Clay started on P-N-P's and parts removal with crowbars/hammers...
Or the minorities that use them
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'87 190 DT 



Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
Very pleasant news this evening! The signals started working great! It
didn't take many flicks of the hazard switch to affect a change. What a
great feeling to have them working again for no money and no work! (my kind
of repair). Thanks for the reminder that operating the hazard switch can
affect it.

Interesting note on the hazards: When I switch them on, only the right side
blinks (F and R). The way to get all four going at once is to switch the
hazards on, then turn the L side turn signals on.

Brian
83 240D

On 3/28/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'll try turning the dimmer and hoping. Is removing it a bear?

 Two screws, once you have the cluster out.  And that's not
 usually too hard either.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] New tumbler is different

2006-03-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
Update on my tumbler saga: After having the dealership try to ship the
correct tumbler replacement to a wrong address, I re-gave them the correct
address, and I finally saw it tonight. It looked right this time, I popped
it in in 10 seconds, and it is a fit!

Here's the beauty: It came with a key! The incorrect one they sent me at
first did not come with a key, and as some of you may recall, I was quite
puzzled over that.

Here's the problem: The problem was NOT the tumbler. I was quickly able to
get the column to lock me out after installing the new tumbler. Fortunately
my patented kicking, turning, and twisting technique got it unsiezed
before too long.

Oh well, at least I have two new dealer-cut keys now.

But I still have to jump through a hoop to ensure no lock-outs. This
consists of: When I arrive at my destination, I find the mid-point in the
slop of the wheel and hold it there. Then I - in a split second - turn that
key back to the zero position and back to position one, thereby satisfying
the requirement that it be completely turned off before allowing starter
engagement again. I then leave it in position one - ready for the next start
- and lock the doors. (or if in a bad neighborhood, go ahead and remove
tumbler).

Brian
83 240D

On 3/13/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Well hot diggity. I just had an unexpectedly successful phone call with
 Maplewood Mercedes in St. Paul. I told him my mystery about the supposed
 ignition tumbler that they sold me being different in a few ways and most
 notably not having the pin hole provision for removal at all.

 At first he said I had the right one, then he (thankfully) said oh, it
 looks like you have the wrong one (he said I got sent the older style?). And
 to my surprise he was all over taking care of things and said I'd have to
 pay nothing and the correct one will be shipped to me within a day or two
 (which I don't really understand - If it's keyed to my VIN, how can it be so
 fast?)

 At any rate, we'll see what they come up with this time.

 I know you all can rest a little easier now.

 Brian
 83 240D

  On 3/12/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hmm, list: That doesn't make sense. A new ignition tumbler without the
  pinhole required to remove it. Could they be designing them to be
  permanent now? Thinking that the car would not outlast the new tumber?
  Naaah. It's a Mercedes - they make mileage badges for these things.
 
  Can't wait for folks to get to work tomorrow so they can peruse the
  posts from today. I know the answers lie within one of ya.
 
  Brian
  83 240D
 
   On 3/12/06, Woodlandtaylors  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Yes it had the little hole.
 
  Dennis T
 
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  Thanks. I guess the most important question I could ask you is: Did the
  new
  tumbler have the little bitty hole where a pin can be inserted in order
  to
  allow depression of the part that retracts to allow
  removal/installation?
  Yes I know once the key is turned to the correct position (and the
  tumbler
  is not installed yet) it can be depressed by hand, but once installed,
  there
  needs to be a way to make it depress so that the tumbler can be pulled
  out.
  That is what the hole for the pin is for. Does the one you installed
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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread John Ervine

Jim Cathey wrote:


It could well have been a European-delivery US model.  Didn't
DBAG offer that around then?


Yup.  Mat Cama has a European-delivery '77 (?) 300D in his possession.  All 
records since new, including transport documents.  Lots of neat stuff about that 
car that you don't see on later w123s.


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Re: [MBZ] Solenoid Loose

2006-03-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
On the topic of reman. starters: I know that getting one from a McParts is
frowned upon, but I must admit I got one from AutoJoke with a lifetime
warranty. The thing that I noticed tonight is that the solenoid has the name
Bosch stamped on it, and the main starter body has made in Germany, or some
such on it. So it appears to be a rebuilt original equipment unit.

I thought that the much sought after Bosch solenoids could only be found at
the pick  pull.

Brian
83 240D

On 3/28/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Thanks! Good info! I know that on my '68 Dodge, I can start the engine
 from the firewall by arcing two terminals on a box on the driver side
 firewall. This must be the same as what you're describing, only it sounds
 like on the Mercedes, I'd have to do it at the starter itself.

 I'd also have to make sure I get the correct two terminals, as it sounds
 like you've described a third. If I get the wrong two terminals, the starter
 motor will spin, but the gear will not engage the flywheel, if I'm
 understanding correctly.

 And if I get the correct two terminals, using the screwdriver, the starter
 motor will spin and the gear will engage, and I'd better have remembered to
 have 'er in neutral. I can get under the hood and check all this out, but
 I'm just trying to visualize as I sit here on email instead of doing my
 work.

 Brian
 83 240D


  On 3/27/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The solenoid is a switch.  The top stud has a cable connected to the
  battery.  The bottom terminal has a strap that goes to the wiring inside
 
  the starter.  That is why, when your solenoid fails, you can jump the
  starter, with a big screwdriver, or equivalent, and cause the starter to
  run. (but not engage) (Useful in diagnosis)  The small terminal in the
  middle is one side of the switching (control) circuit.  The other side
  of
  the switching circuit is the ground through the starter itself, to the
  engine, to the body and the negative terminal.
 
  If you suspect a problem with the starter control circuit, you can jump
  from the top terminal to the small terminal and if the starter and
  solenoid
  work  correctly, the starter should engage.  (another reason why your ol
  dissel can get you home when others are F.O.R.D.)
 
  If the nut on the bottom is loose, the current to the starter is
  probably
  arcing, and may not make contact, or may not conduct enough juice to
  start,
  and will likely cause overheating at the terminal.
 
  At 12:06 PM 3/27/2006, you wrote:
  Thanks Loren. I'll certainly try to tighten it up. By the way, what's
  that
  second terminal, (stud) for anyway? Mine doesn't have any wire going to
  it.
  
  Brian
  83 240D
  
  
  On 3/26/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   
BINGO!  that'd do it!   If the stud on the solenoid is tight, and
  only the
nut is loose, tighten it and see what happens.  It might be a cheap
fix.  If the stud is loose in the solenoid, you need at least a new
solenoid, and the Bosch ones are not cheap.  I've been known to buy
  a used
starter just to get a used Bosch solenoid.  The brand X solenoids I
  have
tried never last long.
   
   
At 11:41 PM 3/26/2006, you wrote:
When I went to change out my starter yesterday, I noticed that the
solenoid
(or at least the assembly onto which the wires connect, and where
  there
is
that second terminal, or nut) is loose. It rattles around between
  your
fingers. Obviously this is a problem. Question is: Could tightening
  it
back
up (if that's even possible) solve the intermittent starting
  problem,
thus
allowing me to return the starter I bought? This weekend as I drove
  the
240
to a wedding, etc. it always started - did not do what it did
  before
which
was absolutely nothing. But I heard a minor but noticeable clack
  just
before the starter jumped to life. Incidentally, I did not change
  the
starter out - mainly because the largest Allen key I have is 10mm.

Brian
83 240D
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[MBZ] The Single Most Useful Tool

2006-03-30 Thread B Dike
in my toolbox is the Petzl Zipka Plus LED headlamp. It has a  retractable 
microcord headband so it can be put on or taken off the  head instantly while 
working and used either as headlamp or hand  light.  No clumsy floppy 
headstraps. Very small, carries in the  pocket.  Extremely bright, smart power 
management logic.  Was  birthday gift from wife (how do they know these 
things??)
  
  Order it from REI:   
http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000catalogId=4008000productId=47667894parent_category_rn=4500596
  
  
  

Bruce
82 300CD 334kmi 'His'
85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen'
73 220D 'It'

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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:40:37 -0600 Zoltan Finks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 AAAaackk! That's a fear of mine. My late Dobie was reliable (could leave
 a fresh biscuit on the dash and leave him in the car for hours (at night
 - temperate weather) and it would be untouched when I'd come back. But I
 have a maniac of a 1 year old now. Whole new ball game. Sorry to hear
 about your console!

Thanks. We're going to assemble a Skykennel on the back seat and put her
in it when we need to leave her. She's a 7 month-old female German
Shepherd, so it will be several months of that, I guess.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] 240D console

2006-03-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:46:32 -0600 Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  The consoles in the U-Pull are almost always ruined before
  I ever see them.  People tend to pry out what they want
  with crowbars there.
 
  -- Jim
 Don't get Clay started on P-N-P's and parts removal with
 crowbars/hammers... Or the minorities that use them
 Rick Knoble

OK.



Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches

2006-03-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:37:23 -0800 Dennis Perkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My understanding is it's better to have them on the loose side if your 
 having problems getting it just right vs. tight.  Is this right?

Yes.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:20 PM, Sunil Hari wrote:

What's wrong with the car?  Can it really be a grey-market car if  
the gauges

are all in English units?


	Sure, grey market cars need to be federalized and speedo is one of  
many items that get changed. There are exemptions for age and such, I  
don't know much more than that about it.

My 190D Euro is a grey market car.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


300SD's are all US cars.


I thought some went to Japan as well.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Solenoid Loose

2006-03-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
Let me rephrase that. I know Bosch starters can be had (like from Rusty,
right?), the thing that threw me is that I got a Bosch solenoid from
AutoJoke.

Brian
83 240D


On 3/30/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On the topic of reman. starters: I know that getting one from a McParts
 is frowned upon, but I must admit I got one from AutoJoke with a lifetime
 warranty. The thing that I noticed tonight is that the solenoid has the name
 Bosch stamped on it, and the main starter body has made in Germany, or some
 such on it. So it appears to be a rebuilt original equipment unit.

 I thought that the much sought after Bosch solenoids could only be found
 at the pick  pull.

 Brian
 83 240D

  On 3/28/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Thanks! Good info! I know that on my '68 Dodge, I can start the engine
  from the firewall by arcing two terminals on a box on the driver side
  firewall. This must be the same as what you're describing, only it sounds
  like on the Mercedes, I'd have to do it at the starter itself.
 
  I'd also have to make sure I get the correct two terminals, as it sounds
  like you've described a third. If I get the wrong two terminals, the starter
  motor will spin, but the gear will not engage the flywheel, if I'm
  understanding correctly.
 
  And if I get the correct two terminals, using the screwdriver, the
  starter motor will spin and the gear will engage, and I'd better have
  remembered to have 'er in neutral. I can get under the hood and check all
  this out, but I'm just trying to visualize as I sit here on email instead of
  doing my work.
 
  Brian
  83 240D
 
 
   On 3/27/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   The solenoid is a switch.  The top stud has a cable connected to the
   battery.  The bottom terminal has a strap that goes to the wiring
   inside
   the starter.  That is why, when your solenoid fails, you can jump the
   starter, with a big screwdriver, or equivalent, and cause the starter
   to
   run. (but not engage) (Useful in diagnosis)  The small terminal in the
  
   middle is one side of the switching (control) circuit.  The other side
   of
   the switching circuit is the ground through the starter itself, to the
   engine, to the body and the negative terminal.
  
   If you suspect a problem with the starter control circuit, you can
   jump
   from the top terminal to the small terminal and if the starter and
   solenoid
   work  correctly, the starter should engage.  (another reason why your
   ol
   dissel can get you home when others are F.O.R.D.)
  
   If the nut on the bottom is loose, the current to the starter is
   probably
   arcing, and may not make contact, or may not conduct enough juice to
   start,
   and will likely cause overheating at the terminal.
  
   At 12:06 PM 3/27/2006, you wrote:
   Thanks Loren. I'll certainly try to tighten it up. By the way, what's
   that
   second terminal, (stud) for anyway? Mine doesn't have any wire going
   to it.
   
   Brian
   83 240D
   
   
   On 3/26/06, Loren Faeth  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 BINGO!  that'd do it!   If the stud on the solenoid is tight, and
   only the
 nut is loose, tighten it and see what happens.  It might be a
   cheap
 fix.  If the stud is loose in the solenoid, you need at least a
   new
 solenoid, and the Bosch ones are not cheap.  I've been known to
   buy a used
 starter just to get a used Bosch solenoid.  The brand X solenoids
   I have
 tried never last long.


 At 11:41 PM 3/26/2006, you wrote:
 When I went to change out my starter yesterday, I noticed that
   the
 solenoid
 (or at least the assembly onto which the wires connect, and where
   there
 is
 that second terminal, or nut) is loose. It rattles around between
   your
 fingers. Obviously this is a problem. Question is: Could
   tightening it
 back
 up (if that's even possible) solve the intermittent starting
   problem,
 thus
 allowing me to return the starter I bought? This weekend as I
   drove the
 240
 to a wedding, etc. it always started - did not do what it did
   before
 which
 was absolutely nothing. But I heard a minor but noticeable
   clack just
 before the starter jumped to life. Incidentally, I did not change
   the
 starter out - mainly because the largest Allen key I have is
   10mm.
 
 Brian
 83 240D
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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread John Ervine

John Berryman wrote:


I thought some went to Japan as well.


You thunk right.  The 350SD and both longbody variants, however, were North 
American market only.


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1980 300SD 277+kmi
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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread John M McIntosh
I guess that is why the dealer asked me today was your 90's wagon a  
euro or Japanese model?
but don't they drive on the left side of the road? Then again we do  
see various benz around here imported from Asia,

and those do have the steering wheel on the left.


On 29-Mar-06, at 10:34 PM, John Berryman wrote:



On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


300SD's are all US cars.


I thought some went to Japan as well.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


John
1983 300TDt  362k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990 300TDt  164k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)





Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Japan and Hong Kong drive on the wrong side (sorry, Hendrik), pretty much
the rest of Asia on the right.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

On 3/29/06, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I guess that is why the dealer asked me today was your 90's wagon a
 euro or Japanese model?
 but don't they drive on the left side of the road? Then again we do
 see various benz around here imported from Asia,
 and those do have the steering wheel on the left.


 On 29-Mar-06, at 10:34 PM, John Berryman wrote:

 
  On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
  300SD's are all US cars.
 
I thought some went to Japan as well.
 
  Johnny B.
  I Mac Therefore I am

 John
 1983 300TDt  362k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
 1990 300TDt  164k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
 1993 500SEL 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)



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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread John M McIntosh
I dug around a bit and discovered that usually most foreign cars  
imported into Japan were left hand drive, versus
the proper right hand drive because of the prestige, which now makes  
sense why the dealer asked if the car was from Japan.


On 29-Mar-06, at 11:32 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

Japan and Hong Kong drive on the wrong side (sorry, Hendrik),  
pretty much the rest of Asia on the right.


Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper


John
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Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread Levi Smith
Is the idea that being bent they'll clear the injector lines and 
therefore allow more movement?


Levi

B Dike wrote:

The bent wrenches are totally unnecessary.  Valve adjustments are  easy to do 
with standard open end wrenches, just use a good light so  you can see exactly 
where to place them.  The only thing you might  consider is file or grind one 
down to make it a tad thinner to grab the  lower nut.
  
  Bruce






Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:01 AM, John Ervine wrote:

You thunk right.  The 350SD and both longbody variants, however,  
were North

American market only.


	They drive on the correct side of the road over there just like our  
Limey friends don't they?


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:19 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:


The thing about the Pepsi syndrome vs switches in horizontal
locations is that the goo has no place to go once it gets in
there.  That's why I usually just take 'em out and clean them
out thoroughly.

-- Jim


	Skins like those used to protect keyboards would be a handy item in  
such a situation. Duct taping saran wrap over them would serve the  
same purpose, especially if wood-grained tape can be had.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:36 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

That's a good name for it.  Although other sticky colloids and  
suspensions

can be almost as bad, e.g. sour cream.  DO NOT ASK how I know!  ;)

Alex Chamberlain


How does one know when sour cream has gone bad?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

2006-03-30 Thread Trampas
I am currently working on making a 300SDL out of a 500SEL and an OM617, thus
I was thinking about intercooling and anything else that would make the car
actually move. My goal is to have a commuter car which gets 25MPG and can
get onto I-40 during rush hour. 

Trampas

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On Behalf Of Dave M.
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 12:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

By themselves, none. But they do allow  you to jack up the fuel
delivery (relatively) safely, without destroying the motor. Seems most
stock Bosch pumps can't deliver more than, say, 20-25% power gain over
stock, without modifying the pump via larger elements. So on an OM603,
that should take us from 148hp (stock) to something around 170-180hp
with stock pump, exhaust, and turbo. If you're willing to change the
intake, exhast, and send the pump to Myna Diesel, the sky is the
limt... the Finns have dyno charts showing 450hp from a stock
long-block 603.

:)

-dm

 --
 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:36:55 -0500
 From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update


 What kind of horse power boost does intercooling and/or water injection
add?


 Trampas

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Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:14 AM, Levi Smith wrote:


Is the idea that being bent they'll clear the injector lines and
therefore allow more movement?

Levi


	Yes, clearance is the reason they are shaped like that. I use the  
Hazet set, made specifically for the purpose. They cost somewhere in  
the $50+ range when I bought them many, many moons ago. They paid for  
themselves with their first use and made me $$ with subsequent valve  
adjustments.
	Properly made wrenches can keep you from rounding the adjusters and  
locks. I feel they are worth the price, even with today's inflation  
figured in. YMMV


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:42 AM, Trampas wrote:

I am currently working on making a 300SDL out of a 500SEL and an  
OM617, thus
I was thinking about intercooling and anything else that would make  
the car
actually move. My goal is to have a commuter car which gets 25MPG  
and can

get onto I-40 during rush hour.

Trampas


	Any Hyundai can serve that purpose for a fraction of the price. You  
must have ulterior motives.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

2006-03-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Trampas wrote:
 
 I am currently working on making a 300SDL out of a 500SEL and an OM617, thus
 I was thinking about intercooling and anything else that would make the car
 actually move. My goal is to have a commuter car which gets 25MPG and can
 get onto I-40 during rush hour.

There's a fellow on mercedesshop, I believe the name is Brent, who made an
air/water IC for his 617. This allowed the IC to be conveniently situated
near the turbo and intake manifold. Very good for brief bursts of power, 
an IC full of cool water takes a few seconds to warm up.



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Kevin wrote:
 
 On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:
  I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?
 
 I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
 immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s.

And I was under the impression that the 2.5 turbo can kill it
in 200-300kmi. This one has 296k on the clock. Probably just
worn out. Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife
claims the 2.0?



Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread Potter, Tom E
A few days ago, some chap on the list offered his for $40.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hue wong
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?


So I just looked on ebay and a pair of bent 14mm box ,
valve adjustment, wrenches were going for $$$65.00...
Zoiks! I say!!! Seems high...


I don't have the ability to heat and bend my own, so
does anyone know of a better deal out there?


Thanks in advance!




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[MBZ] archives

2006-03-30 Thread dieselbenz24
I wonder if there is a way to search *these* emails as before with a search 
archive form ?  If not that would be a very handy enhancement.
 
Dan Elliott
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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread l02turner
I am always amazed at people who take photos of their stuff that's for sale 
but fail to clean it up - trash on the floor and in the console, etc --  
stuff that would only take a few minutes to do but would make a big 
difference in presentation.  A clean vehicle says (to me at least) that they 
made an effort to take care of the car - and keeping it clean is very low/no 
cost.


Oh well, perhaps I'm too picky?
;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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- Original Message - 
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:24 PM
Subject: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot



Im not sure if I have the heart to tell him

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-300sd-DIESEL-mercedes-benz-Grey-Market-Vehicle_W0QQitemZ4626938368QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
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 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OH LT Don

2006-03-30 Thread LT Don
Benz 240D, Buick Regal, Pontiac Sunbird, VW Quantum diesel.

On 3/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If he replaced the head gasket and it still gets hot, the problem had to
 be elsewhere.  The heads/gaskets are just not a problem on those cars.
 What freaking cars do you have anyways?





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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:


 Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife
claims the 2.0?


	We have a 2.5 NA. I did look it over thinking all the goodies would  
be there to convert ours or another, possibly throwing a 5spd into  
the mix. This particular car is really clapped out and ~ 600 miles  
away. I'm going to finish present projects, then look for something  
fun like that.
	In this way I would not stress-out my excellent Wife. She  
will,however want me to get into a fun project that she can also  
enjoy. She has recently suggested we overhaul my old Harley FLH  
together and do a little touring in the future. I am a lucky man to  
have her in my life. In my wildest dreams I never thought it could be  
this good.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] archives

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 30, 2006, at 8:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I wonder if there is a way to search *these* emails as before with  
a search archive form ?  If not that would be a very handy  
enhancement.


Dan Elliott


	Spotlight in Mac OS X Tiger does this. it would be handier if I  
saved all messages though.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread Sunil Hari
Haha Jim, you called the company DBAG.  Say it aloud, as d-bag'.

I'm three years old.

On 3/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am always amazed at people who take photos of their stuff that's for
 sale
 but fail to clean it up - trash on the floor and in the console, etc --
 stuff that would only take a few minutes to do but would make a big
 difference in presentation.  A clean vehicle says (to me at least) that
 they
 made an effort to take care of the car - and keeping it clean is very
 low/no
 cost.

 Oh well, perhaps I'm too picky?
 ;-)

 Sincerely,
 Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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 - Original Message -
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:24 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot


  Im not sure if I have the heart to tell him
 
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-300sd-DIESEL-mercedes-benz-Grey-Market-Vehicle_W0QQitemZ4626938368QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OH LT Don

2006-03-30 Thread Luther Gulseth
The car isn't worth the $500 reserve.RUN AWAY!

~The car starts up good and runs fine, but the engine gets hot and steam
~comes out of the overflow.  I put a head gasket in it (not fun) but it
~didn't fix the problem and now I'm sick of it and ready to take a loss.
~
~What do you guys think the issue is? And this is pre-W123, isn't it?
~
~I am just now getting the Loren car finally sorted out and fun-to-drive.
~That makes four cars (plus a motorcycle) for three drivers. Debbie has told
~me, and I quote: You will NOT turn into a Kaleb!
~
~But $500 dollar reserve and not too far away. Aw Geeze, 
~



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'82 300CD (159,222 kmi) 
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Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Thats the funniest thing i have heard in a while.

B Dike wrote:


The bent wrenches are totally unnecessary.  Valve adjustments are  easy to do 
with standard open end wrenches, just use a good light so  you can see exactly 
where to place them.  The only thing you might  consider is file or grind one 
down to make it a tad thinner to grab the  lower nut.
  
  Bruce




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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

such as?

John Ervine wrote:


Jim Cathey wrote:



It could well have been a European-delivery US model.  Didn't
DBAG offer that around then?



Yup.  Mat Cama has a European-delivery '77 (?) 300D in his possession.  All 
records since new, including transport documents.  Lots of neat stuff about that 
car that you don't see on later w123s.




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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

no, I dont think so, I could be wrong but Im pretty sure Im right.

John Berryman wrote:


On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



300SD's are all US cars.



I thought some went to Japan as well.

Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] New tumbler is different

2006-03-30 Thread Luther Gulseth
Brian, you need to lube the column lock.  I had the exact same issue with my CD 
when I replaced the tumbler.  Squirted a little Marvel Mystery oil into the 
column lock, and it works as new now.  

Luther

~Update on my tumbler saga: After having the dealership try to ship the
~correct tumbler replacement to a wrong address, I re-gave them the correct
~address, and I finally saw it tonight. It looked right this time, I popped
~it in in 10 seconds, and it is a fit!
~
~Here's the beauty: It came with a key! The incorrect one they sent me at
~first did not come with a key, and as some of you may recall, I was quite
~puzzled over that.
~
~Here's the problem: The problem was NOT the tumbler. I was quickly able to
~get the column to lock me out after installing the new tumbler. Fortunately
~my patented kicking, turning, and twisting technique got it unsiezed
~before too long.
~
~Oh well, at least I have two new dealer-cut keys now.
~
~But I still have to jump through a hoop to ensure no lock-outs. This
~consists of: When I arrive at my destination, I find the mid-point in the
~slop of the wheel and hold it there. Then I - in a split second - turn that
~key back to the zero position and back to position one, thereby satisfying
~the requirement that it be completely turned off before allowing starter
~engagement again. I then leave it in position one - ready for the next start
~- and lock the doors. (or if in a bad neighborhood, go ahead and remove
~tumbler).
~
~Brian
~83 240D
~



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'82 300CD (159,222 kmi) 
'82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work



Re: [MBZ] archives

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
sure is, if you go to the list page and go to the archives, you can 
download the entire archive archive for a month and then search away 
with your text reader program.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I wonder if there is a way to search *these* emails as before with a search 
archive form ?  If not that would be a very handy enhancement.
 
Dan Elliott

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Re: [MBZ] OH LT Don

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

ok, I though I missed something, nevermind.

LT Don wrote:


Benz 240D, Buick Regal, Pontiac Sunbird, VW Quantum diesel.

On 3/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If he replaced the head gasket and it still gets hot, the problem had to
be elsewhere.  The heads/gaskets are just not a problem on those cars.
What freaking cars do you have anyways?







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Re: [MBZ] OH LT Don

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

its worth, 100-200 if its close.

Luther Gulseth wrote:


The car isn't worth the $500 reserve.RUN AWAY!

~The car starts up good and runs fine, but the engine gets hot and steam
~comes out of the overflow.  I put a head gasket in it (not fun) but it
~didn't fix the problem and now I'm sick of it and ready to take a loss.
~
~What do you guys think the issue is? And this is pre-W123, isn't it?
~
~I am just now getting the Loren car finally sorted out and fun-to-drive.
~That makes four cars (plus a motorcycle) for three drivers. Debbie has told
~me, and I quote: You will NOT turn into a Kaleb!
~
~But $500 dollar reserve and not too far away. Aw Geeze, 
~





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[MBZ] OT - BTU/gal #2

2006-03-30 Thread wilton strickland
How many BTU per gal. #2?

Wilton



Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread Luther Gulseth
It'll grow red or green lumps on top.  It'll also smell something bad, unlike 
normal sour cream.

~
~On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:36 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
~
~ That's a good name for it.  Although other sticky colloids and  
~ suspensions
~ can be almost as bad, e.g. sour cream.  DO NOT ASK how I know!  ;)
~
~ Alex Chamberlain
~
~   How does one know when sour cream has gone bad?
~
~Johnny B.
~I Mac Therefore I am
~



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Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches

2006-03-30 Thread Marshall Booth

Dennis Perkins wrote:
My understanding is it's better to have them on the loose side if your 
having problems getting it just right vs. tight.  Is this right?




There is a little additional noise, little consequence in performance 
and none to starting when the valves are a little loose. When even a 
little tight, cold engine starting is compromised or even prevented. 
It's important that valves be checked and adjusted before freezing 
weather if reliable cold starting is to be expected.


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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

here is his response when I pointed out his car is not a euro car:


 lol.let me get the invoice on the purchase for you which will show
 you that is was built and shipped over here from Germany. The car has
 only had one other owner other then my parents and I doubt that, that
 old couple went through the trouble of finding and upgrading the stupid
 headlights. thx anyways though :)
 -Taylor

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


no, I dont think so, I could be wrong but Im pretty sure Im right.

John Berryman wrote:



On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:




300SD's are all US cars.



I thought some went to Japan as well.

Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - BTU/gal #2

2006-03-30 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Wilton,

Here's a link that has all this info...  http:// 
housing.cce.cornell.edu/f-sht-pdf%20libraries/EE-F-SHTS/comparing% 
20heat%20fuels.pdf


If I read correctly ... It's 140,000/gallon.

HTH,

Chuck
On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:16 AM, wilton strickland wrote:


How many BTU per gal. #2?

Wilton

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[MBZ] S55 LWB on eBay

2006-03-30 Thread Dave M.
In case you need *lots* of rear leg room, and like to get places in a hurry...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4625188298

:-)


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Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 07:29:39 -0500 John Berryman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:36 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 
  That's a good name for it.  Although other sticky colloids and  
  suspensions
  can be almost as bad, e.g. sour cream.  DO NOT ASK how I know!  ;)
 
  Alex Chamberlain
 
   How does one know when sour cream has gone bad?


You open the refrigerator door and see everything else standing there with
their hands up and the sour cream holding a pistol, robbing them at
gunpoint.



Craig



Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread Rick Knoble

How does one know when sour cream has gone bad?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


It has mold growing on it.
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD

'87 190 DT



[MBZ] best way to get pepto out of tranny

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Fixing to swap out the radiator on my 190D and then need to get the 
pepto out of the tranny.  My thinking is I will drain the pan and 
converter, fill back up with fresh fluid, , run it for a little bit. 
Drain pan and repeat until fluid is good.  Then pull pan and change the 
filter.  Anybody got any other ideas?

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[MBZ] eBay photographer of the week....

2006-03-30 Thread Rick Knoble
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-MERCEDES-300SD-TURBO-DIESEL-NO-MIN-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4625852227QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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LOL! Good point. There's a make offer button, I should try Kleb's
standard $500...

:-)

+dm

 On 3/30/06, Joe Knight wrote:

 Po' man's Maybach...?   ;)

 j

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  hurry...
 
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4625188298
 
  :-)
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread Curt Raymond
Larry,
   
  I mostly agree with you. I've spent the better part of a month slowly 
defunking my '85 190D. Considering the overall neglect I've seen throughout the 
car the grunge doesn't really surprise me. I need to schedule a trip to get 
detailed (courtesy a gift cert from my in-laws). A real steam cleaner would be 
just the ticket for removing the grunge thats pushed into the carpets, I got 
the upper layer of slime off.
   
  As a side note the coffee sachet I mentioned the other day has done its job 
admirably. I'd used some glue inside the car and the smell was hanging around 
bad, since putting in the coffee last week (about 2oz of coffee in a little 
packet I made from a papertowel folded over) its pretty much gone.
   
  That said when I was a teenager I'd spend countless hours cleaning and 
meticulously detailing the inside of my '84 Ford Tempo. The interior of that 
car was sweet. There wasn't any surface rust either but a bunch of places with 
paint that was only vaugely the right color. The floor was rotted to bits 
though. Every year I'd peel back the carpets and fiberglass up the holes. Then 
jack the car up and use sheetmetal screws to attach stovepipe (cheap and 
available) so it'd pass Maine state inspection.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:39:24 -0500
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I am always amazed at people who take photos of their stuff that's for 
sale 
but fail to clean it up - trash on the floor and in the console, etc --  
stuff that would only take a few minutes to do but would make a big 
difference in presentation.  A clean vehicle says (to me at least) that 
they 
made an effort to take care of the car - and keeping it clean is very 
low/no 
cost.

Oh well, perhaps I'm too picky?
;-)

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Zoltan Finks wrote:
 On the topic of reman. starters: I know that getting one from a McParts is
 frowned upon, but I must admit I got one from AutoJoke with a lifetime
 warranty. The thing that I noticed tonight is that the solenoid has the name
 Bosch stamped on it, and the main starter body has made in Germany, or some
 such on it. So it appears to be a rebuilt original equipment unit.
 
 I thought that the much sought after Bosch solenoids could only be found at
 the pick  pull.

Most budget rebuilds (no matter what the warranty) have been cleaned, 
painted and BROKEN parts have been replaced - no more than that. If the 
bearings have not failed, they are almost NEVER replaced. If the old 
solenoid operated, it will often NOT be replaced. If you are selling the 
car, it's an inexpensive way to get it going. If you'd like a modicum of 
reliability, DO NOT BUY A BUDGET alternator or starter.

A genuine Bosch 

Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Marshall Booth

Kevin wrote:

On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:

I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?


I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. 


The B-2 piston shattering was unique to the 722.3 transmissions, but the 
 722.4 B-2 pistons or bands CAN fail and the resulting symptom is 
exactly the same. They don't fail nearly as often because the parts were 
redesigned (just as the revised, replacement 722.3 parts were).


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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Marshall Booth

Mitch Haley wrote:

Kevin wrote:

On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:

I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?

I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s.


And I was under the impression that the 2.5 turbo can kill it
in 200-300kmi. This one has 296k on the clock. Probably just
worn out. Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife
claims the 2.0?


The 722 series transmissions wear every time they shift and hardly wear 
at all while in gear running. So to minimize transmission wear, minimize 
shifting. During the 10 years I was driving from Pittsburgh to 
Washington DC and back weekly, I counted the number of shifts that my 
300TD made on the trip and the number of shifts that my 190Ds (with 
automatics) made. The 190D shifted not quite twice as often. Around town 
the number of shifts was much closer to the same.


That corresponds with the average life of the a 722.4 transmission in a 
201 vs a 722.3 transmission in a 123/124/126. In city driving, both 
transmissions give similar life (150-200kmi), but in highway service, 
the average 722.3 transmission will last quite a bit longer (all other 
things being equal). I believe that the BIGGEST factor is engine power. 
The more powerful engines allow the transmission to last longer by 
allowing the engine to propel the car satisfactorily with many fewer shifts!


Marshall


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[MBZ] 603 Fan removal

2006-03-30 Thread Mark . Maturo

Does anyone know a good way to hold the water pump pulley, on a 603 engine,
to keep it from turning while removing the hex head fan bolt?  Mercedes
sells a tool but it is 140.00.


Mark Maturo




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Re: [MBZ] archives

2006-03-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 3/30/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Mar 30, 2006, at 8:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I wonder if there is a way to search *these* emails as before with
  a search archive form ?  If not that would be a very handy
  enhancement.
 
  Dan Elliott

 Spotlight in Mac OS X Tiger does this. it would be handier if I
 saved all messages though.


So does Gmail.  This list is the only thing I use it for... works great!

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper


Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread Marshall Booth

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

300SD's are all US cars.


Correct! I had forgotten that!

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] this guy is an idiot

2006-03-30 Thread Marshall Booth

John Berryman wrote:

On Mar 29, 2006, at 11:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


300SD's are all US cars.


I thought some went to Japan as well.


ALL 116  126 300SDs were for north American consumption.

300SDLs went to Japan in 1988 and 350SD/SDLs (I believe) that went to 
Japan as well.


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Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Red or green lumps!  How Christmasy!  (Johnny is making a joke... but,
really, there IS a difference, just like when yogurt goes bad [although
ironically the fact that it's already spoiled in a sense DOES make it last
longer].)

Alex Chamberlain, who has made yogurt from scratch for the fun of it
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

On 3/30/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It'll grow red or green lumps on top.  It'll also smell something bad,
 unlike normal sour cream.

 ~
 ~On Mar 30, 2006, at 2:36 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 ~
 ~ That's a good name for it.  Although other sticky colloids and
 ~ suspensions
 ~ can be almost as bad, e.g. sour cream.  DO NOT ASK how I know!  ;)
 ~
 ~ Alex Chamberlain
 ~
 ~   How does one know when sour cream has gone bad?
 ~
 ~Johnny B.


[MBZ] Used 126 wheels 86 420 SEL

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman


	One of my buddies wants 4 15-hole alloys for a 1986 420SEL. He wants  
to mount his Summer tires on them so if anyone has a set in  
presentable condition.. How much $$ shipped to 12814?


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] 300TD Rear Hatch Available - Pick Up Only

2006-03-30 Thread tom savage

Rick Knoble wrote:

You are ABSOLUTELY correct. I WORK for UPS and I see this stuff EVERY DAY. 
If you ship auto body parts this way they are more likely to get there 
intact than if you wrap them like china. If you want to be ABSOLUTELY SURE 
that your stuff gets there intact with UPS, insure it for $5000. That will 
put it into the High Value category, and it WILL get treated with kid 
gloves.


Me too, Earth City, MO.  You're near Chicago, right?  CACH?

Standard-sized, boxed packages are thrown onto converyor belts which 
ferry them through the hub, where all sorts of bad things can happen in 
the event of a jam.  Upon reaching the loading dock, they may be loaded 
on the top or the bottom of the trailer, where they may or not be 
crushed, depending on luck and packaging quality.  Irreg items (big, 
unboxed, or over 70 lbs) are carried through the hub on a cart where 
they won't be smashed or thrown about.  They're the last thing loaded in 
the trailer and are never stacked, so you really are safer shipping 
unboxed.  This is all academic, though, as a rear hatch is big enough 
that it qualifies as an irreg whether boxed or not.


Tom,
Uses lots of bubble wrap and packing peanuts



Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Used 126 wheels 86 420 SEL

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
those are EXPENSIVE when you can find them.  I happen to have at least 3 
sets but am saving them for some special occasion.  They usually sell 
for close to $400 a set.


John Berryman wrote:
	One of my buddies wants 4 15-hole alloys for a 1986 420SEL. He wants  
to mount his Summer tires on them so if anyone has a set in  
presentable condition.. How much $$ shipped to 12814?


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] New tumbler is different

2006-03-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
Hey Luther, I was wondering about that. I know I read on the list where
someone lubed it. I think someone said they poured a few drops of ATF down
there. I may follow your recommendation of the Marvel oil though.

Question is:

You say squirt the oil into the column lock. Forgive my ignorance, but
where exactly are you referring to the oil being squirted?

The column lock is an item located inside the steering column, no? Which
would mean I must disassemble the column partially to do this lubing? OR are
you saying that the oil should be squirted into the area that the tumbler
plugs into?

Thanks!
Brian
83 240D



On 3/30/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Brian, you need to lube the column lock.  I had the exact same issue with
 my CD when I replaced the tumbler.  Squirted a little Marvel Mystery oil
 into the column lock, and it works as new now.

 Luther

 ~Update on my tumbler saga: After having the dealership try to ship the
 ~correct tumbler replacement to a wrong address, I re-gave them the
 correct
 ~address, and I finally saw it tonight. It looked right this time, I
 popped
 ~it in in 10 seconds, and it is a fit!
 ~
 ~Here's the beauty: It came with a key! The incorrect one they sent me at
 ~first did not come with a key, and as some of you may recall, I was quite
 ~puzzled over that.
 ~
 ~Here's the problem: The problem was NOT the tumbler. I was quickly able
 to
 ~get the column to lock me out after installing the new tumbler.
 Fortunately
 ~my patented kicking, turning, and twisting technique got it unsiezed
 ~before too long.
 ~
 ~Oh well, at least I have two new dealer-cut keys now.
 ~
 ~But I still have to jump through a hoop to ensure no lock-outs. This
 ~consists of: When I arrive at my destination, I find the mid-point in the
 ~slop of the wheel and hold it there. Then I - in a split second - turn
 that
 ~key back to the zero position and back to position one, thereby
 satisfying
 ~the requirement that it be completely turned off before allowing starter
 ~engagement again. I then leave it in position one - ready for the next
 start
 ~- and lock the doors. (or if in a bad neighborhood, go ahead and remove
 ~tumbler).
 ~
 ~Brian
 ~83 240D
 ~



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[MBZ] 0-60 Target?

2006-03-30 Thread l02turner

Howdy -
What should my target time for 0-60mph be - '91 300D 2.5 Turbo?  I'm going 
to benchmark it - tried it today but noticed the AC was on and the road 
wasn't really level either - so I'll try again.  My fingers on the stopwatch 
may not have been quite perfect either.


TIA!

Sincerely,
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Re: [MBZ] Turn Signals Out

2006-03-30 Thread Brian Chase
Yes! That seems a very reasonable solution! What gets me is that in my Saab, 
the ignition is down there. Yeah it's nice to be different, but the junk 
that can fall into there... The kicker is that my dealer-installed sunroof 
drips slightly and guess where it drips down into?


Brian
83 240D
84 Saab 900


Skins like those used to protect keyboards would be a handy item in
such a situation. Duct taping saran wrap over them would serve the
same purpose, especially if wood-grained tape can be had.

Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - BTU/gal #2

2006-03-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 09:16:18 -0500 wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 How many BTU per gal. #2?
 
 Wilton

From,

http://www.exxon.com/USA-English/GFM/Products_Services/Fuels/Diesel_Fuels_FAQ.asp

The BTU content of No. 2-D diesel fuel is typically about 130,000 BTU/Gal.



Craig



Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread Rusty Cullens
$75.00 for a 3 piece set of Genuine MB wrenches.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 8:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

we used to sell those just about every day.  last i remember they were
$85
for the set of 3, but not sure what they cost now

On 3/29/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#diesel

 About $100 for 2 of the bent wrench and one of the other.

 Randy B

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 Subject: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?



 So I just looked on ebay and a pair of bent 14mm box ,
 valve adjustment, wrenches were going for $$$65.00...
 Zoiks! I say!!! Seems high...


 I don't have the ability to heat and bend my own, so
 does anyone know of a better deal out there?


 Thanks in advance!




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Re: [MBZ] OH LT Don

2006-03-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
It looks great, Don.  Call it MMM - My mocha Mercedes.

On 3/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 its worth, 100-200 if its close.

 Luther Gulseth wrote:

  The car isn't worth the $500 reserve.RUN AWAY!
 
  ~The car starts up good and runs fine, but the engine gets hot and
 steam
  ~comes out of the overflow.  I put a head gasket in it (not fun) but it
  ~didn't fix the problem and now I'm sick of it and ready to take a
 loss.
  ~
  ~What do you guys think the issue is? And this is pre-W123, isn't it?
  ~
  ~I am just now getting the Loren car finally sorted out and
 fun-to-drive.
  ~That makes four cars (plus a motorcycle) for three drivers. Debbie has
 told
  ~me, and I quote: You will NOT turn into a Kaleb!
  ~
  ~But $500 dollar reserve and not too far away. Aw Geeze, 
  ~
 
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
I paid $49 about 10 years ago so that seems reasonable.

On 3/30/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 $75.00 for a 3 piece set of Genuine MB wrenches.

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 we used to sell those just about every day.  last i remember they were
 $85
 for the set of 3, but not sure what they cost now

 On 3/29/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#diesel
 
  About $100 for 2 of the bent wrench and one of the other.
 
  Randy B
 
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  Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:25 PM
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  Subject: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?
 
 
 
  So I just looked on ebay and a pair of bent 14mm box ,
  valve adjustment, wrenches were going for $$$65.00...
  Zoiks! I say!!! Seems high...
 
 
  I don't have the ability to heat and bend my own, so
  does anyone know of a better deal out there?
 
 
  Thanks in advance!
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Used 126 wheels 86 420 SEL

2006-03-30 Thread Donald Snook
Johnny B. wrote:

 

One of my buddies wants 4 15-hole alloys for a 1986 420SEL. He wants  

to mount his Summer tires on them so if anyone has a set in  

presentable condition.. How much $$ shipped to 12814?

 

 

That is what my car has on it now, and I would like to upgrade to the 8
hole wheels that you can buy on Tire rack.  If I were to get the new
wheels they cost $400.  Got an offer for my wheels.  They look clean and
presentable. I just like the 8 hole wheels better. 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 125K 



[MBZ] was I accidently taken off the list?

2006-03-30 Thread Mark . Maturo

Mark Maturo

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  Mark Maturo   
 
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  03/30/2006 12:01 cc:  
 
  PM   Subject:  603 Fan removal
 

 

 



Does anyone know a good way to hold the water pump pulley, on a 603 engine,
to keep it from turning while removing the hex head fan bolt?  Mercedes
sells a tool but it is 140.00.


Mark Maturo




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[MBZ] Cheap Old Parts 'Burb

2006-03-30 Thread Rick Knoble
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/car/146622323.html

Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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Larry,

Here's a spreadsheet with performance data (from sales brochures and
TDM's) for most all 124's, plus some assorted 123, 126, 140, and 201
data:

http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/other/acceleration_specs.xls

Spec for your car is 12.8 seconds.


:-)

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1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline)


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 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:42:32 -0500
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 Subject: [MBZ] 0-60 Target?


 Howdy -
 What should my target time for 0-60mph be - '91 300D 2.5 Turbo?  I'm going
 to benchmark it - tried it today but noticed the AC was on and the road
 wasn't really level either - so I'll try again.  My fingers on the stopwatch
 may not have been quite perfect either.

 TIA!

 Sincerely,
 Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)



[MBZ] And Now For Something Completely Different...

2006-03-30 Thread Rick Knoble
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1954-Mercedes-Benz-180-Streetrod-w-Nissan-200SX-Turbo_W0QQitemZ4624822122QQcategoryZ6315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Whatever.
Rick Knoble 
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Mark,

Here's a photo of the real tools:

http://www.w124performance.com/images/tools/OM60x_serp_belt_tools.jpg

Cost of the tool via Rusty should be under $100. I recommend buying
the tool if you intend to own OM60x engines for any length of time.
Otherwise, some people say you can slip a small Allen wrench into a
hole in the pulley, and brace it against a rib on the water pump. I've
not done this myself but others claim it works OK... just don't break
the water pump. With the stubby hex socket and spinner tool shown in
the photo above, the fan can be pulled out without removing the
radiator.

:-)

-Dave M.

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 Does anyone know a good way to hold the water pump pulley, on a 603 engine,
 to keep it from turning while removing the hex head fan bolt?  Mercedes
 sells a tool but it is 140.00.


 Mark Maturo



Re: [MBZ] Water injection on OM603 - update

2006-03-30 Thread Trampas
I try not to drive or ride in portable coffins. 

Trampas

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On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:42 AM, Trampas wrote:

 I am currently working on making a 300SDL out of a 500SEL and an  
 OM617, thus
 I was thinking about intercooling and anything else that would make  
 the car
 actually move. My goal is to have a commuter car which gets 25MPG  
 and can
 get onto I-40 during rush hour.

 Trampas

Any Hyundai can serve that purpose for a fraction of the price. You

must have ulterior motives.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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