Re: [MBZ] alternator charging rate?

2006-07-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
A battery charger really is the answer unless you need to drive somewhere anyway. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];

Re: [MBZ] alternator charging rate?

2006-07-19 Thread David Brodbeck
Tom Hargrave wrote: A battery charger really is the answer unless you need to drive somewhere anyway. Or unless you live in an apartment with no outside plug-ins. ;)

Re: [MBZ] need this v12?

2006-07-19 Thread LT Don
You should drive out sometime and visit Iowa. Contrary to what you might think, there is a lot more here than corn and soybeans, such as http://www.iastate.edu/. On 7/18/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: redghost wrote: Where in creation would you drive that in Iowa, Don? Why am I

Re: [MBZ] need this v12?

2006-07-19 Thread David Brodbeck
LT Don wrote: You should drive out sometime and visit Iowa. Contrary to what you might think, there is a lot more here than corn and soybeans, such as http://www.iastate.edu/. I actually did drive through Iowa once, on I-80. I saw lots of corn and lots of truck stops. But I'm sure that's

Re: [MBZ] 201 front suspension help

2006-07-19 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Does the 126 have the McPherson(?) strut set up like the 201? The suspension set up in the 201's is completley different to the earlier compact size MB's and there is no comparison possible. Like comparing a CDI Diesel to an non CDI engine. Also it has to be remebered that the 201 dominated

Re: [MBZ] need this v12?

2006-07-19 Thread LT Don
Yea, I-80 does cut thru the fields. Extremely boring, and I _live_ here! You need to take an exit and look around some. In case any of you out there are (1) independently wealthy and bored, or (2) willing to travel, I highly (let me make that HIGHLY) recommend crossing Iowa on Highway 30. Runs

Re: [MBZ] Delay Downshift Klunk

2006-07-19 Thread Bob Rentfro
Thanks Mr. Jim Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Delay Downshift Klunk In a message dated 7/17/2006 8:05:53 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SoI

Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)

2006-07-19 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Well I am a firm believer that MB really started it's downward slide when they became DC. Cut costs, focus on looks and gadgets rather than substance and reliability and you have a recipe for disaster. I call it trading in German desire for reliability for American type consumerism. -

Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?

2006-07-19 Thread Rich Thomas
Is that a Chinese guy driving it? --R Zeitgeist wrote: Watch this four part series of wonton Mercedes abuse at your own risk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bIV_hHPAFQmode=relatedsearch=

Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)

2006-07-19 Thread mykd1
Now I am going to defend that about Audi saying it was the customers fault. Of couse it turned out to be a bunch of idiots who were money hungry. That unintended acceleration turned out to be a sick joke that almost cost Audi their business. I owned a few of their cars and never ever had a

Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)

2006-07-19 Thread LT Don
I like Audi -- a poor man's Benz. In fact, my VW Quantum diesel-turbo is a misbadged Audi 4000. On 7/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I am going to defend that about Audi saying it was the customers fault. Of couse it turned out to be a bunch of idiots who were money

Re: [MBZ] need this v12?

2006-07-19 Thread Jim Cathey
You should drive out sometime and visit Iowa. Contrary to what you might think, there is a lot more here than corn and soybeans I have a friend from Ioway. I always tease her about the state tree being corn. Sets her off every time! -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 201 front suspension help

2006-07-19 Thread Jim Cathey
Does the 126 have the McPherson(?) strut set up like the 201? No. The 126 looks a lot like the 114/115 underneath, as does everything in between. (107, 116, 123) -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)

2006-07-19 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I am going to defend that about Audi saying it was the customers fault. Although it does seem the only people stupid enough to buy Audis in the 1980s were the ones who were too stupid to know that if the brake pedal dropped to the floor with no more resistance

Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)

2006-07-19 Thread LT Don
Actually, that is a good time to buy one of the vehicles. I sure with Benz would suddenly find the CDI's smacking into garage walls! On 7/18/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I am going to defend that about Audi saying it was the customers fault. Although

Re: [MBZ] need this v12?

2006-07-19 Thread LT Don
I think the state tree out here is the Family Tree. On 7/18/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should drive out sometime and visit Iowa. Contrary to what you might think, there is a lot more here than corn and soybeans I have a friend from Ioway. I always tease her about the

Re: [MBZ] 201 front suspension help

2006-07-19 Thread OK Don
Now, now - the 107 and 114/115 have a double wishbone front suspension (my favorite). None of these single arms and track rods and sockets, etc. On 7/18/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the 126 have the McPherson(?) strut set up like the 201? No. The 126 looks a lot like the

[MBZ] 126 Seat Switch Update

2006-07-19 Thread Scott Ritchey
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Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?

2006-07-19 Thread Zeitgeist
Ya, he spilled some to that creme of sum yung gy soup in his lap; hence the wonton mayhem that ensued. On 7/18/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that a Chinese guy driving it? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k)

Re: [MBZ] need this v12?

2006-07-19 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:16:08 -0500 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather have that tugboat they show on the same page. Wouldn't that make a cute liveaboard boat? Indeed. That's why I said it's a good thing I don't live near the ocean! Craig

Re: [MBZ] 201 front suspension help

2006-07-19 Thread Jim Cathey
Now, now - the 107 and 114/115 have a double wishbone front suspension (my favorite). None of these single arms and track rods and sockets, etc. Shows you what I know. I can recognize a strut that isn't there... How many pins on that thing? What voltage?... -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] need this v12?

2006-07-19 Thread LT Don
Me too. That is one of my fantasies. Have you read this:? Go to http://www.arachnoid.com/sailbook/ and download Confessions. The author (and the guy who does the website) WROTE AppleWriter and is a multi-millionaire. He also spend four years sailing around the world. He now takes his boat to

Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?

2006-07-19 Thread Rich Thomas
One a them funny guys, huh? --R Zeitgeist wrote: Ya, he spilled some to that creme of sum yung gy soup in his lap; hence the wonton mayhem that ensued. On 7/18/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that a Chinese guy driving it? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a

Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?

2006-07-19 Thread OK Don
I doubt that the FSM was amused --- by the video, not the banter. On 7/18/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One a them funny guys, huh? --R -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston

[MBZ] Mice are not your problem

2006-07-19 Thread Rich Thomas
You think you got problems with mice in your car, check this out http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060717/NEWS02/607170317/1009 --R

Re: [MBZ] alternator charging rate?

2006-07-19 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that David wrote: Tom Hargrave wrote: A battery charger really is the answer unless you need to drive somewhere anyway. Or unless you live in an apartment with no outside plug-ins. ;) Then you need a big battery and an inverter and a battery charger. Oh. Maybe you

Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)

2006-07-19 Thread mykd1
I remember following that story all the way to the end when it went to federal court. At the time I owned one of the rare Audi Quattro coupes (which was trashed by some drunken $%#@ in a truck. I remember all the charges being dismissed at the expense of millions in legal fees for Audi when the

Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)

2006-07-19 Thread Steve MacSween
on 7/18/06 9:10 PM, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I am going to defend that about Audi saying it was the customers fault. Although it does seem the only people stupid enough to buy Audis in the 1980s were the ones who were too stupid to know that if the brake pedal dropped to

Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)

2006-07-19 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember all the charges being dismissed at the expense of millions in legal fees for Audi when the accusers admitted to making the stories up. I hadn't heard about the intentional accidents before. The whole media spiel stunk of BS and I tried to ignore it. So in

Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)

2006-07-19 Thread mykd1
Actually this is the first time I actually heard anything about Audi making those comments. I'm betting the media was responsible for those comments. Harry 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Steve

Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?

2006-07-19 Thread Rich Thomas
Well, they used a bit more than wontons on that car, I especially liked the energetic dissociations of various devices in the final reel. It was funny in one scene where the rear wiper was still trying to do it's job with the window missing, the hatch all bent up. If I ever get into a crash

[MBZ] Rod Bender

2006-07-19 Thread Roger Conlon
-- Message: 12 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:25:33 -0700 From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] PDX Rod-bender To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?

2006-07-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
695lbs? That seems pretty cheap Rich Thomas wrote: Well, they used a bit more than wontons on that car, I especially liked the energetic dissociations of various devices in the final reel. It was funny in one scene where the rear wiper was still trying to do it's job with the window

Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?

2006-07-19 Thread Mike Canfield
Is there a way to download the videos to watch later on that site? My PC comes up with an error message. Would love to watch them but can't sit here in front of the PC waiting for them to load. Mike - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] Rod Bender

2006-07-19 Thread Marshall Booth
Roger Conlon wrote: Would a 87 300SDL motor drop into one of these 90-91 350SDL cars with out any modifications? NO! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D

Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?

2006-07-19 Thread Levi Smith
I have yet to complete the process to verify 100%, but it appears so... I'm downloading from this site right now: http://keepvid.com/ But it looks like this would probably work directly... http://videodownloader.net/get/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fyoutube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-bIV_hHPAFQ On 7/19/06, Mike

Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)

2006-07-19 Thread Steve MacSween
on 7/19/06 6:44 AM, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What car goes forward at full throttle while the brake pedal goes to the floor, and magically fixes itself after the crash? The problem was eventually admitted to be that the european cars did not have the huge brake pedal that NA

Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)

2006-07-19 Thread Steve MacSween
No, Audi managed that one all by itself. I can still remember the car magazines turning on Audi (after initially being sympathetic), over the PR response. Mac on 7/19/06 7:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually this is the first time I actually heard anything about Audi

[MBZ] 420/560 ignition control module

2006-07-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Anybody know why the ignition module would be different for a 420 and a 560? I dont see why they would need a different unit. Anybody? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81

Re: [MBZ] 420/560 ignition control module

2006-07-19 Thread Steve MacSween
on 7/19/06 11:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody know why the ignition module would be different for a 420 and a 560? I dont see why they would need a different unit. Anybody? Oh, you slay me. As if. Same reason there are at least two different vacuum routing

Re: [MBZ] 420/560 ignition control module

2006-07-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
haha, yea Steve MacSween wrote: on 7/19/06 11:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody know why the ignition module would be different for a 420 and a 560? I dont see why they would need a different unit. Anybody? Oh, you slay me. As if. Same reason there are at

Re: [MBZ] Rod Bender

2006-07-19 Thread Zeitgeist
Other than the slightly different glowplug system, I'm at a loss to think of too many reasons why a .96 can't be substituted for a .97 If I came upon a good deal for one of those rigs, that's exactly what I'd do. But then again, I'd rather stick with the E-class anyway. On 7/19/06, Marshall

Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)

2006-07-19 Thread Rich Thomas
Didn't that whole deal originate on 60Minutes with Dan Rather in the lead on the story? Found some dentist's wife who got wunnathem new Uropeen cars and had no idea how to drive it so did the pedal mixup thing? Another fake but accurate reporting job? There is an old newspaper photo of my

Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs?? (warning, rant)

2006-07-19 Thread David Brodbeck
Steve MacSween wrote: on 7/19/06 6:44 AM, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What car goes forward at full throttle while the brake pedal goes to the floor, and magically fixes itself after the crash? The problem was eventually admitted to be that the european cars did not

Re: [MBZ] 420/560 ignition control module

2006-07-19 Thread Luther Gulseth
to frustrate you. Is it working? Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Anybody know why the ignition module would be different for a 420 and a 560? I dont see why they would need a different unit. Anybody? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89

Re: [MBZ] the same old refrain...

2006-07-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Most if not all 4wheelers use a centrifigal clutch just like on a snowmobile. If its slipping while getting up to speed its probably a bad belt or the primary clutch is gunked up and not closing good, or maybe more likely the secondary doesn't close all the way so you're really starting in a

Re: [MBZ] 201 front suspension help

2006-07-19 Thread Curt Raymond
Not for the first time I don't think most people get what I'm trying to say here. Remember I have a 201 and I REALLY like it. Specifically I like that it has decent power and 40mpg. I was in Germany in '93 and noticed that many Germans take alot of pride in their cars, and do alot of their

[MBZ] I am in hell

2006-07-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So I decided to get back to messing with the enterprise again (380SE with euro 5.0 motor). Am in the middle of pulling the gas tank and going to pull one out of another car to put in it. Imagine it being 101 outside, unhooking the fuel lines from under the car, and having your arms and back

Re: [MBZ] I am in hell

2006-07-19 Thread J.B. Hebert
I remember the day I picked up my old 300CD. Laying on burning hot gravel trying to disconnect the driveshaft so I could dolly the car home... the thermometer in the truck indicated about 105. Not fun. J.B. At 04:04 PM 7/19/2006, you wrote: So I decided to get back to messing with the

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 8, Issue 67

2006-07-19 Thread Roger Conlon
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Re: [MBZ] Rod Bender

2006-07-19 Thread Marshall Booth
Zeitgeist wrote: Other than the slightly different glowplug system, I'm at a loss to think of too many reasons why a .96 can't be substituted for a .97 If I came upon a good deal for one of those rigs, that's exactly what I'd do. But then again, I'd rather stick with the E-class anyway. The

Re: [MBZ] Mice are not your problem

2006-07-19 Thread Zeitgeist
The end days, they are a comin! Repent sinners or thou shall be foresaken...and stung repeatedly On 7/18/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You think you got problems with mice in your car, check this out

Re: [MBZ] Mice are not your problem

2006-07-19 Thread Rich Thomas
You got that right, bro -- for verification, check out this allahgator http://www.southflorida.com/news/chi-0607190265jul19,0,330718.story?coll=sfe-guide-headlines2 --R Zeitgeist wrote: The end days, they are a comin! Repent sinners or thou shall be foresaken...and stung repeatedly On

Re: [MBZ] Rod Bender

2006-07-19 Thread Zeitgeist
There must be a cutoff date for many of those things to appear, because I have an IP and turbo unit from a '90 or '91 603.97 engine, and none of their functions operate differently than my 603.96 engine. I'd be willing to bet the W140 w/603.97 engined cars all have the newer systems in place.

Re: [MBZ] 201 front suspension help

2006-07-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Teh 201 was the first chassis with the current multi-link rear suspension and strut type front suspension, now quite common (all MB models, Volvo, and Ford 500s plus Chrysler models). Some changes in the latest ones, but essentially the same. The W126 is the older suspension, modified from

Re: [MBZ] Jim C. refuses a hearing aid

2006-07-19 Thread R A Bennell
Not exactly what you would call recent photos. What is all that white stuff in the background? Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jim C.