Re: [MBZ] Blower motor irregularities - 1982 300SD

2006-08-17 Thread MICHAEL ESH

Thank you for the heads up on the okiebenz.com.

I pulled the motor and cleaned it up and oiled the shaft as best I could and 
it seems to be working a little better.

Where is the resister located on this?

Thanks,
Mike

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Subject: Re: Blower motor irregularities - 1982 300SD


You need to send posts to okiebenz.com.  Sounds like your blower motor 
resistor might be going bad.  I should have one available.


MICHAEL ESH wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a blower motor regulator on a 1982 300TD 
that would cause the blower motor to slow down after 5 minutes of running 
correctly?  Or would this be function the Climate Control Unit.  It seems 
to happening when I use the AC or the Heat.

 Thanks in advance,
Mike
P.S. The fuse has blown once and the replacement fuse is very warm when 
the fan is on full speed. 





Re: [MBZ] Recharging AC

2006-08-17 Thread Bill Gallagher

Jim:
   The Schrader valve took 2 and a quarter turns to hit bottom 
recharged the system with only one can and when I told off the hose, 
heard that good old short blast and then silent ... Should solve the 
problem 

   Just wonder how much a dealer will charge .???

p.s. did not know there are two low pressure values  I've learn 
something ..

Bill
1981 300 TD


Jim Cathey wrote:

My Low Pressure Value is leaking after I recharged the system, you can



There is both a low pressure value (not static), and a valve.  Had me
confused for a bit.

  

see the bubbles coming out. A couple days later, no cold AC.



The stupid Schrader valves work loose with time.  Try a common
tire valve stem wrench on it to tighten it back first.  I've had
several loose ones.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Hot ignition switch

2006-08-17 Thread archer
On my '83 300D, the ignition switch gets very hot when the A/C blower is 
running.  If this means the switch contacts are bad, where is the best place 
to buy a replacement?

Thanks,
Gerry 





Re: [MBZ] Hot ignition switch

2006-08-17 Thread Jim Cathey
On my '83 300D, the ignition switch gets very hot when the A/C blower 
is
running.  If this means the switch contacts are bad, where is the best 
place

to buy a replacement?


That's not good.  It probably does, and most likely Rusty would be it.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Sons E-300 CDI

2006-08-17 Thread archer

Gerry Archer wrote:


One of my sons customers offered to sell him his wifes E-300 CDI which is
a
late model (He didn't get the year.)

Any information on it durability, mpg,  special problems, etc. would be
much
appreciated.  If needed, he can get the year.

Thanks,
Gerry


Dave Walton wrote:
Do you perhaps mean to say it's an E320 CDI?
It would be a 2005 or 2006. They are very nice and wickedly fast. As I
recall, they are not available with 4-Matic or the 7-speed
transmission. I've heard rumors that the engine is too big to fit
those in. I drove one a few times at a Mercedes Driving event last
year. They are too new for any meaningful reliability data.
--
Jim Friesen wrote:
US models of the E class CDI have only been on the market for less than
year.  Sticker was about $51,000 plus, and I  have not seen a used one  for
less
than $45,000.   Your son should be ready to fork over a  significant amount
of
cash if he is going to step up to one of these.

I saw one this morning, white, very nice looking.  I believe this is  the
best diesel MB has ever made.  Very powerful and 35 MPG is easy to  attain.
A
KEEPER!
-
Kaleb Striplin wrote:
There are several for sale around here for 39k

My son said to thank you all very much for the information.
Gerry




Re: [MBZ] Recharging AC

2006-08-17 Thread Jim Cathey

The Schrader valve took 2 and a quarter turns to hit bottom


That's loose!


Just wonder how much a dealer will charge .???


$2000 if there's _anything_ wrong with the AC.  About all I've
found any commercial place will do is a full R134a conversion,
with all new parts.

Versus tightening a loose valve.  That's why we're here.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Blower motor irregularities - 1982 300SD

2006-08-17 Thread Jim Cathey

Where is the resister located on this?


Is this a 123 or 126 we're talking about?  The 123 resistor pack is on
one of the fenders, IIRC.  Big holey box with a bunch of hefty wirewound
resistors in it, they look like springs.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Hot ignition switch

2006-08-17 Thread archer
Thanks, Jim, I'll check with Rusty tomorrow.  Couldn't find it on his online 
catalog but did find a picture of it in IMPCOs catalog.  It looks like the 
switch mounts on the back of the ignition module and might be possible to 
replace without removing the module.

Gerry

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On my '83 300D, the ignition switch gets very hot when the A/C blower
is
running.  If this means the switch contacts are bad, where is the best
place
to buy a replacement?


That's not good.  It probably does, and most likely Rusty would be it.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
They just took apart a 126 300SD and rigged a big speaker inside it to 
see if they could blow the car up.  Crap.




Re: [MBZ] DIY Auto AC manual

2006-08-17 Thread Harry Watkins
The one from ackits is about half and half R12 and R134a

Harry

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Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY Auto AC manual


 Have they come out with a new edition that deals with 134A refrigerant
 systems?  THe one I have from several years ago mentions it but doesn't
give
 any pressures, quantities, etc.
 Gerry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have that book as well.  I'll also put a plug in for the Haynes AC
manual
  that I purchased from Autozone.  It has vehicle specific data on charge
  pressures, and refrigerant and oil quantities.  The two of them were
  extremely helpful when I resurrected the AC systems in all three of my
  cars
  this summer.
 
  On 8/16/06, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I just got my copy and being its the only AC manual I've used, I have
to
  say its the best.
 
  http://www.ackits.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Manual
 
 
  Casey





[MBZ] Better MPG, But...

2006-08-17 Thread Harry Watkins
What will it cost?

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9596_22-6106117.html

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans


Re: [MBZ] dancing phone

2006-08-17 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:18:23 -0500 Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20060816/adf49d31/attachment
.bin

 turn the sound WAYYY up on this.  Video shot with my phone yesterday.

mplayer says there's no sound.



Craig



Re: [MBZ] Better MPG, But...

2006-08-17 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:49:52 -0500 Harry Watkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What will it cost?
 
 http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9596_22-6106117.html

And what will at that cerium in the air do to people?


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread OK Don

No - how did it turn out?  How much power did the amp put out? What frequencies?

On 8/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

They just took apart a 126 300SD and rigged a big speaker inside it to
see if they could blow the car up.  Crap.




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Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives.
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Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick

Yeah, I saw that.
Made me cringe.  I think they would have had better luck destroying a 
car had they used one that wasn't built so well.


--Robert

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
They just took apart a 126 300SD and rigged a big speaker inside it to 
see if they could blow the car up.  Crap.


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[MBZ] Jaguar diesel

2006-08-17 Thread Craig McCluskey
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road_tests/index.htm?id=136

Craig



Re: [MBZ] dancing phone

2006-08-17 Thread LT Don

There was with RealPlayer ... the sound of a phone vibrating on a table with
incoherent talk (must have been Luther) in the background.

On 8/16/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:18:23 -0500 Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

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 turn the sound WAYYY up on this.  Video shot with my phone yesterday.

mplayer says there's no sound.



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Bob Rentfro

Did they bust the myth?
I didn't see it 'cause
all my TVs were on So You Think You Can Dance

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 157K
'87 Acura Legend  177K
Still waiting on '72 350SL  78K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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They just took apart a 126 300SD and rigged a big speaker inside it to
see if they could blow the car up.  Crap.

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Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick


They didn't use an amp. They made a crank on the back of the 
transmission  and hooked a rod to drive a 4 foot mythbusters speaker 
directly off the transmission.
It generated roughly 160 db @ 15hz. It blew the sunroof out a bit, but 
aside from the speaker self destructing, that was pretty much the extent 
of the damage.


-Robert

OK Don wrote:

No - how did it turn out?  How much power did the amp put out? What frequencies?

On 8/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

They just took apart a 126 300SD and rigged a big speaker inside it to
see if they could blow the car up.  Crap.





  





Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick

If anyone wants to see it, they are running that episode again right now
Robert

Robert  Tara Ludwick wrote:
They didn't use an amp. They made a crank on the back of the 
transmission  and hooked a rod to drive a 4 foot mythbusters speaker 
directly off the transmission.
It generated roughly 160 db @ 15hz. It blew the sunroof out a bit, but 
aside from the speaker self destructing, that was pretty much the extent 
of the damage.


-Robert

OK Don wrote:
  

No - how did it turn out?  How much power did the amp put out? What frequencies?

On 8/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  


They just took apart a 126 300SD and rigged a big speaker inside it to
see if they could blow the car up.  Crap.


  
  




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Re: [MBZ] Hot ignition switch

2006-08-17 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 8/16/2006 6:15:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thanks,  Jim, I'll check with Rusty tomorrow.  Couldn't find it on his online 
 
catalog but did find a picture of it in IMPCOs catalog.  It looks  like the 
switch mounts on the back of the ignition module and might be  possible to 
replace without removing the  module.
Gerry



Gerry,
 
3 slotted screws hold the switch module to the back of the key lock  
mechanism.  Removing the instrument cluster will allow you to get to the  
screws best. 
 It is possible that one of the screws is loose that holds the  wiring  to 
the switch.  That would cause overheating too.
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 145 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well it blew the sunroof up a little, but thats it.  As far the rest, no 
clue.


OK Don wrote:


No - how did it turn out?  How much power did the amp put out? What frequencies?

On 8/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


They just took apart a 126 300SD and rigged a big speaker inside it to
see if they could blow the car up.  Crap.







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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
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[MBZ] 250C questions

2006-08-17 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr


My brother has located a 1972 250C automatic and is thinking about
buying it.  I have heard legends about the dual downdraft carbs-any real
issues there? What about timing chain issues? Any other items to watch
for?

A question about badging-this one is a 114-023 chassis, but on the
center bottom of the VIN plate it says *250/8*  According to the index
of sedan images on MBZ.org, the 250/8 was a 114-021? Was the 250/8 euro?
Puzzle is that this car has a six cylinder engine. 
TIA
Dwight 

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles
Wickford, RI
Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage Co.





Re: [MBZ] 250C questions

2006-08-17 Thread Jim Cathey

My brother has located a 1972 250C automatic and is thinking about
buying it.  I have heard legends about the dual downdraft carbs-any 
real

issues there?


Yeah.  I'm a carb idiot.  Our '72 250C conversion convertible hasn't
really run in years.  That may be because I just haven't worked on it.
(But I do have two junkyard carbs in the trunk.)  Someday.  It's a
good looking car.

When it _was_ running, it ran fairly well.  About 150 HP in that 2.8l
M130 engine, uses premium fuel only.


What about timing chain issues? Any other items to watch for?


It's a single-row chain, but in an I6 configuration it holds up
pretty well.  All other issues are common 114/115 issues.  Rust,
etc.  Coupe-specific parts are a little hard to come by.


A question about badging-this one is a 114-023 chassis, but on the
center bottom of the VIN plate it says *250/8*  According to the index
of sedan images on MBZ.org, the 250/8 was a 114-021? Was the 250/8 
euro?

Puzzle is that this car has a six cylinder engine.


It's a 250, in the 1968 (and beyond) configuration.  Sounds right to me.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 250C questions

2006-08-17 Thread Jim Cathey

My brother has located a 1972 250C automatic


Oh, and the four-speed automatic does not have a torque
converter, only a fluid coupling.  (Not sure that means
anything, other than it has a low first gear to make
up for it.)

The dual Zenith carbs, when they're working right, work
very well.  They also are fairly trouble-free if they're
not broken.  It can be hard to find somebody who knows
how to put them right, however.  But once right they
ought to stay that way for quite awhile.  (And yours
may be just fine.)

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 250C questions

2006-08-17 Thread Potter, Tom E
I have a few used spare parts (linkages, gaskets, etc.) for Zenith
carburetors if anyone wants them. You pay shipping; you can have them.

Tom Potter
Houston, TX 77043

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 My brother has located a 1972 250C automatic

Oh, and the four-speed automatic does not have a torque
converter, only a fluid coupling.  (Not sure that means
anything, other than it has a low first gear to make
up for it.)

The dual Zenith carbs, when they're working right, work
very well.  They also are fairly trouble-free if they're
not broken.  It can be hard to find somebody who knows
how to put them right, however.  But once right they
ought to stay that way for quite awhile.  (And yours
may be just fine.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Curt Raymond
They pick the goofiest cars for stuff. Dodge Intrepid for trying to flip over 
with a jet engine for instance.
  You wanna flip something over you get a mini van not a low slung saloon...
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:51:26 -0500
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Yeah, I saw that.
Made me cringe.  I think they would have had better luck destroying a 
car had they used one that wasn't built so well.

--Robert

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 They just took apart a 126 300SD and rigged a big speaker inside it 
to 
 see if they could blow the car up.  Crap.




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 saloon...

Ah, but think of the commercial possibilities if you should succeed!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 250C questions

2006-08-17 Thread Donald Snook
Dwight wrote: 

 

My brother has located a 1972 250C automatic and is thinking about
buying it.  I have heard legends about the dual downdraft carbs-any real
issues there? What about timing chain issues? Any other items to watch
for?

A question about badging-this one is a 114-023 chassis, but on the
center bottom of the VIN plate it says *250/8*  According to the index
of sedan images on MBZ.org, the 250/8 was a 114-021? Was the 250/8 euro?
Puzzle is that this car has a six cylinder engine. 

 

Starting during the 1971 production run, the 250 came equipped with the
larger 2.8 six cylinder.  I had one of these cars, but it was not a
coupe. I always wanted a coupe, I think they are good looking cars. 

 

As far as the carbs are concerned, they worked VERY well IF the you have
someone who knows carbs and how to rebuild them and make sure they are
set up properly.  So many mechanics don't work on carbs anymore.   

 

When I had my 250, the only problems I had were fairly minor, except I
had to replace the steering box, but that is probably related to
age/mileage than the car.   The only other concerns were related to age
and lack of maintenance by the previous owner.  I had to replace points
and condensers one freezing winter day because I had no spark.  

 

I loved that old car. It had over 400,000 miles when I sold to it to a
friend. He drove it for quite a while then he sold it to another friend.
The oil pump blew up on him and crashed the engine.  But, by then that
poor little gas engine probably had a half a million miles on it.  

 

I never changed the timing chain-that's right never.  I don't know the
answer to the /8 question except that mine was not a euro car and it was
a 250/8 also.  The /8 did not refer to 8 cylinder. 

 

Also, I got terrible mileage - maybe I drove it too hard - it was fun to
drive.  

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 129K 



Re: [MBZ] 250C questions

2006-08-17 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Thanks Jim,
I'll pass on your wisdom. I think he will buy it. Supposedly has 58k
original miles. 
I found a 74 280C in the paper here-tempted to go look at it myself.
Dwight

Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage Co.





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Re: [MBZ] 250C questions

2006-08-17 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Thanks Tom,
I'll pass this on in case he does buy it.
Dwight

Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage Co.


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I have a few used spare parts (linkages, gaskets, etc.) for Zenith
carburetors if anyone wants them. You pay shipping; you can have them.

Tom Potter
Houston, TX 77043




Re: [MBZ] 250C questions

2006-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

All 114,s and 115,s are referred to as /8's.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:



My brother has located a 1972 250C automatic and is thinking about
buying it.  I have heard legends about the dual downdraft carbs-any real
issues there? What about timing chain issues? Any other items to watch
for?

A question about badging-this one is a 114-023 chassis, but on the
center bottom of the VIN plate it says *250/8*  According to the index
of sedan images on MBZ.org, the 250/8 was a 114-021? Was the 250/8 euro?
Puzzle is that this car has a six cylinder engine. 
TIA
Dwight 


Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles
Wickford, RI
Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage Co.



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Re: [MBZ] 250C questions

2006-08-17 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
OK_ noticed that as a separate listing in the index.  I problem don't
want to ask why. Its not like the 230/4 and 230/6?


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All 114,s and 115,s are referred to as /8's.

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Re: [MBZ] 250C questions

2006-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, the /8 is just a factory designation thing.  It has to do with the 
14/115 being a new generation of cars, more like modern cars.  Somebody 
else can probably explain it better than I can.


Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:


OK_ noticed that as a separate listing in the index.  I problem don't
want to ask why. Its not like the 230/4 and 230/6?


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All 114,s and 115,s are referred to as /8's.

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[MBZ] Probably Too Far Away For Kaleb

2006-08-17 Thread Bob Rentfro
http://flagstaff.craigslist.org/car/192161539.html


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This is how I roll to an Arctic Q, baby.

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[MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Roger Conlon

Probably the same benz they used to run on straight veggie.

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Re: [MBZ] High End Arctic Q Transportation

2006-08-17 Thread Mike Canfield
Throw that on top of a pair of Mog axles and then you'd have the REAL DEAL 
for ArcticQ.


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Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Roger Conlon wrote:
 
 Probably the same benz they used to run on straight veggie.

How did that work out?
Did they just fill the tank and go?
Did the car show any distress?



Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick

I missed that one.
Must have been pretty anti climactic. What did they do, pour it in and 
watch it run?


---Robert

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Probably the same benz they used to run on straight veggie.

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Re: [MBZ] Crack Smokin' Cally Knuck

2006-08-17 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick

$16 grand!!! wow, they've got industrial strength crack in San Diego.

---Robert

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Re: [MBZ] Crack Smokin' Cally Knuck

2006-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, its a little expensive, but it appears to be a 2.5 turbo euro 
model, which would be very rare


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Re: [MBZ] Crack Smokin' Cally Knuck

2006-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yep

Robert  Tara Ludwick wrote:


$16 grand!!! wow, they've got industrial strength crack in San Diego.

---Robert

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[MBZ] pre 85 tranny in a 85 car

2006-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
A pre 85 tranny will fit in a 85 car as long as you swap the converter 
too, correct?

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Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Levi Smith

Well, they had it lik in a 2 liter bottle hanging above the hood as I
recall, but yeah, pretty anticlimactic, it just worked.
The only thing that made me a bit worried was they ended it with: Yeah, you
can just run your diesel on straight vegetable oil without a problem

Umm...  sure, depending on where you live and how long you want it to
work...

Kinda lik some of their other auto tests, like throwing sugar and bleach and
what-not in your tank.  Nope, didn't cause a problem, it doesn't hurt
anything.
Sure...  right now

It's probably my favorite show, but they really don't seem to do much
background on actually learning about these myths, or at least the vehicular
stuff and they don't seem to know all that much about cars and engines...

Levi (:

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I missed that one.
Must have been pretty anti climactic. What did they do, pour it in and
watch it run?

---Robert

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 Probably the same benz they used to run on straight veggie.

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Re: [MBZ] pre 85 tranny in a 85 car

2006-08-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
 A pre 85 tranny will fit in a 85 car as long as you swap the converter
 too, correct?

I think you can use either TQ with the '85 engine, but it might be sluggish
off the line with a '85 rear end and pre-85 TQ. The old TQ won't automatically
center in the '85 crank, and the '85 TQ won't fit in the old crank. 

Mitch.



Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Levi Smith wrote:
 
 Well, they had it lik in a 2 liter bottle hanging above the hood as I
 recall, but yeah, pretty anticlimactic, it just worked.
 The only thing that made me a bit worried was they ended it with: Yeah, you
 can just run your diesel on straight vegetable oil without a problem

Surely no problems in the first half gallon. I can imagine mythbusters
disproving the theory that Russian Roulette is dangerous. 
Click. See, I pointed the gun at my head and pulled the trigger, but nothing
happened.



[MBZ] NO MB but Diesel Q on trucks again

2006-08-17 Thread R A Bennell
Just saw an ad for a 97 GMC K1500 6.5 Turbo Diesel with low mileage and what I 
consider a reasonable price. Going
to have a look I think. What do I need to know about these? Anything real bad 
happen to them?? What sort of fuel
mileage might one expect?

Randy




Re: [MBZ] pre 85 tranny in a 85 car

2006-08-17 Thread Tony Wirtel

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A pre 85 tranny will fit in a 85 car as long as you swap the converter
too, correct?
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I don't think so- thought someone (Marshall?) said the crank was different.

Tony Wirtel


Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Gary Hurst

i've actually run the same experiment on my 81 TD

ran nicely for about 5 miles, albeit it smelled funny.

turns out veggie acts as kind of a solvent and does a nice job of bringing
all the algae and such into the fuel system.

about 15 inline filters later, all was well

i have some doubts about using veggie long term, but largely because i
consider it unproven.  my neighbor is a veggie nut and he has run maybe 9k
miles on it.

cheap/free fuel is very appealing though, too appealing right now to think
that veggie is going to go away.  our friend oren will deliver ready to go
veggie fuel at $1.25 a gallon for those who dont want to mess with it.  or
you can just gather and make your own for cost of your time and effort.


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Well, they had it lik in a 2 liter bottle hanging above the hood as I
recall, but yeah, pretty anticlimactic, it just worked.
The only thing that made me a bit worried was they ended it with: Yeah,
you
can just run your diesel on straight vegetable oil without a problem

Umm...  sure, depending on where you live and how long you want it to
work...

Kinda lik some of their other auto tests, like throwing sugar and bleach
and
what-not in your tank.  Nope, didn't cause a problem, it doesn't hurt
anything.
Sure...  right now

It's probably my favorite show, but they really don't seem to do much
background on actually learning about these myths, or at least the
vehicular
stuff and they don't seem to know all that much about cars and engines...

Levi (:

On 8/17/06, Robert  Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I missed that one.
 Must have been pretty anti climactic. What did they do, pour it in and
 watch it run?

 ---Robert

 Roger Conlon wrote:
  Probably the same benz they used to run on straight veggie.
 
  Roger
 
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Re: [MBZ] pre 85 tranny in a 85 car

2006-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

got ya

Mitch Haley wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


A pre 85 tranny will fit in a 85 car as long as you swap the converter
too, correct?



I think you can use either TQ with the '85 engine, but it might be sluggish
off the line with a '85 rear end and pre-85 TQ. The old TQ won't automatically
center in the '85 crank, and the '85 TQ won't fit in the old crank. 


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] NO MB but Diesel Q on trucks again

2006-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The weak spot on those it the IP and electronic pump mounted driver.  If 
you keep your foot out of you can get high teens with it maybe 20. 
Check www.gm-diesel.com for more info.


R A Bennell wrote:


Just saw an ad for a 97 GMC K1500 6.5 Turbo Diesel with low mileage and what I 
consider a reasonable price. Going
to have a look I think. What do I need to know about these? Anything real bad 
happen to them?? What sort of fuel
mileage might one expect?

Randy


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[MBZ] C230 mileage figures

2006-08-17 Thread Nick Gough
Folks,

I am looking at buying a new C230 Sport (mit 6-speed manual). However, one 
thing that popped up is that the new 2007 models have a 19mpg/City, 
25mpg/Highway ratings. The 2006 models had 30mpg on the highway.

What gives?

As far as I can discern (from seeing other 2007 models on the dealer's lot), 
the rest of the lineup appears to stayed with the same numbers as were seen in 
2006.

Anyone know if Mercedes has done something to the 2007 engine in the C230 (2.5L 
V-6) for 2007?

If the 2007s do, indeed, get 5mpg lower on the highway then I will be looking 
to find a 2006 model soon, before they're all scarfed-up.

Thx.

Nick Gough
Dayton, Ohio

86 300SDL 177k
93 300E 2.8 137k


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Nick, last I knew, the C230 had a 4 cylinder 1.8 turbo engine. Based
on what you have seen, looks like they may have dropped the 4 cylinder
which would explain the fuel mileage rating.

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 I am looking at buying a new C230 Sport (mit 6-speed manual). However, one 
 thing that popped up is that the new 2007 models have a 19mpg/City, 
 25mpg/Highway ratings. The 2006 models had 30mpg on the highway.

 What gives?

 As far as I can discern (from seeing other 2007 models on the dealer's lot), 
 the rest of the lineup appears to stayed with the same numbers as were seen 
 in 2006.

 Anyone know if Mercedes has done something to the 2007 engine in the C230 
 (2.5L V-6) for 2007?

 If the 2007s do, indeed, get 5mpg lower on the highway then I will be looking 
 to find a 2006 model soon, before they're all scarfed-up.

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[MBZ] Very rare find --

2006-08-17 Thread OK Don

A 1987 300D sedan turbo diesel - Never been raced!

http://tinyurl.com/nee3d

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Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread dave walton

FYI - I've run over 40,000 miles on vegoil in my S350. It works fine.
YMMV (pun intended)

Costs are not insignificant. Pumps, motors, filters, storage
containers, hydraulic couplings, tubing, all add up. Not to mention
what you have to do to your car.

-Dave Walton
87SDL, 94S350, 99E300

On 8/17/06, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i've actually run the same experiment on my 81 TD

ran nicely for about 5 miles, albeit it smelled funny.

turns out veggie acts as kind of a solvent and does a nice job of bringing
all the algae and such into the fuel system.

about 15 inline filters later, all was well

i have some doubts about using veggie long term, but largely because i
consider it unproven.  my neighbor is a veggie nut and he has run maybe 9k
miles on it.

cheap/free fuel is very appealing though, too appealing right now to think
that veggie is going to go away.  our friend oren will deliver ready to go
veggie fuel at $1.25 a gallon for those who dont want to mess with it.  or
you can just gather and make your own for cost of your time and effort.


On 8/17/06, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, they had it lik in a 2 liter bottle hanging above the hood as I
 recall, but yeah, pretty anticlimactic, it just worked.
 The only thing that made me a bit worried was they ended it with: Yeah,
 you
 can just run your diesel on straight vegetable oil without a problem

 Umm...  sure, depending on where you live and how long you want it to
 work...

 Kinda lik some of their other auto tests, like throwing sugar and bleach
 and
 what-not in your tank.  Nope, didn't cause a problem, it doesn't hurt
 anything.
 Sure...  right now

 It's probably my favorite show, but they really don't seem to do much
 background on actually learning about these myths, or at least the
 vehicular
 stuff and they don't seem to know all that much about cars and engines...

 Levi (:

 On 8/17/06, Robert  Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I missed that one.
  Must have been pretty anti climactic. What did they do, pour it in and
  watch it run?
 
  ---Robert
 
  Roger Conlon wrote:
   Probably the same benz they used to run on straight veggie.
  
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Re: [MBZ] Fuse replacement, what a pain

2006-08-17 Thread andrew strasfogel

I thought the 240D only had a manual s/r...

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Yes - the sunroof fuse on the 240D is particularly irritating - not made
for
normal sized fingers due to its position. It's quite a jam. Figure I'd
eventually find a method.

Brian


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 Well, if you insist on using the right tool ---
 If don't have, and don't want to go and get it, then dis-connect the
 battery negative cable first.

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  Just did 32 fuse replacements in the SL and found a plastic tool at
  the parts store made for that purpose.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Hot ignition switch

2006-08-17 Thread archer
Thanks, Jim, that sounds easy.  Wasn't looking forward to pulling the whole 
ignition module to get to it.

Gerry

 Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



In a message dated 8/16/2006 6:15:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thanks,  Jim, I'll check with Rusty tomorrow.  Couldn't find it on his 
online


catalog but did find a picture of it in IMPCOs catalog.  It looks  like 
the

switch mounts on the back of the ignition module and might be  possible to
replace without removing the  module.
Gerry



Gerry,

3 slotted screws hold the switch module to the back of the key lock
mechanism.  Removing the instrument cluster will allow you to get to the 
screws best.

It is possible that one of the screws is loose that holds the  wiring  to
the switch.  That would cause overheating too.

Regards,

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles
98 ML 320, 145 K  miles

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Re: [MBZ] Very rare find --

2006-08-17 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote:
 
 A 1987 300D sedan turbo diesel - Never been raced!
 
 http://tinyurl.com/nee3d
 

I thought that 'never been raced' might be in reference to some kind of
hot rod, like Casey's intercooled 603, or some of the CrazyFinn stuff. 
In reference to a stock but well-worn 300d, it does sound pretty silly. 
I also have my doubts about the 36mpg claimed.



[MBZ] Lift Pumps

2006-08-17 Thread ned kleinhenz

Do the fuel lift pumps of 60X engines go bad?  Is this a common problem?
Are they expensive to replace?  Can they leak?

I have an inconsistent fuel leak from my '95 E300D.
It is hard to start and looses power sometimes when accelerating.
I suspect there is a leak somewhere upstream of the FI pump.
It may let air in while running and fuel out when parked (sometimes)

Anyone familiar with the 606.910 can tell you that you cannot see the fuel
system with the engine running.
And to inspect the fuel system, you have to remove the crossover pipe, and
usually the intake manifold - then you can't run the engine.

So the only way I know to repair a fuel leak near the injecton pump is to
remove the intake system and start cleaning and replacing everything that
looks suspicious.

Is it worth replacing the lift pump while in there?

Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2
'85 300D
'80 300TD


Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Gary Hurst

still better than 3 bucks a gallon though, no?

plus the advantage of everyone being able to smell you coming from 2 miles
away


On 8/17/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


FYI - I've run over 40,000 miles on vegoil in my S350. It works fine.
YMMV (pun intended)

Costs are not insignificant. Pumps, motors, filters, storage
containers, hydraulic couplings, tubing, all add up. Not to mention
what you have to do to your car.

-Dave Walton
87SDL, 94S350, 99E300

On 8/17/06, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i've actually run the same experiment on my 81 TD

 ran nicely for about 5 miles, albeit it smelled funny.

 turns out veggie acts as kind of a solvent and does a nice job of
bringing
 all the algae and such into the fuel system.

 about 15 inline filters later, all was well

 i have some doubts about using veggie long term, but largely because i
 consider it unproven.  my neighbor is a veggie nut and he has run maybe
9k
 miles on it.

 cheap/free fuel is very appealing though, too appealing right now to
think
 that veggie is going to go away.  our friend oren will deliver ready to
go
 veggie fuel at $1.25 a gallon for those who dont want to mess with
it.  or
 you can just gather and make your own for cost of your time and effort.


 On 8/17/06, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well, they had it lik in a 2 liter bottle hanging above the hood as I
  recall, but yeah, pretty anticlimactic, it just worked.
  The only thing that made me a bit worried was they ended it with:
Yeah,
  you
  can just run your diesel on straight vegetable oil without a problem
 
  Umm...  sure, depending on where you live and how long you want it to
  work...
 
  Kinda lik some of their other auto tests, like throwing sugar and
bleach
  and
  what-not in your tank.  Nope, didn't cause a problem, it doesn't hurt
  anything.
  Sure...  right now
 
  It's probably my favorite show, but they really don't seem to do much
  background on actually learning about these myths, or at least the
  vehicular
  stuff and they don't seem to know all that much about cars and
engines...
 
  Levi (:
 
  On 8/17/06, Robert  Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I missed that one.
   Must have been pretty anti climactic. What did they do, pour it in
and
   watch it run?
  
   ---Robert
  
   Roger Conlon wrote:
Probably the same benz they used to run on straight veggie.
   
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Re: [MBZ] Lift Pumps

2006-08-17 Thread Mitch Haley
There is a frequent problem with the fuel lines on the 606. Perhaps Rusty
would have or make up a repair kit for it. I'm sure Marshall or somebody who
owns a 606 will chime in with a more specific answer, but I don't think it's
worth messing with the lift pump unless it has failed.



Re: [MBZ] Blower motor irregularities - 1982 300SD

2006-08-17 Thread MICHAEL ESH

Thanks Jim,
This a 123 wagon.  Is there away to test it?
Thanks,
Mike
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Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower motor irregularities - 1982 300SD



Where is the resister located on this?


Is this a 123 or 126 we're talking about?  The 123 resistor pack is on
one of the fenders, IIRC.  Big holey box with a bunch of hefty wirewound
resistors in it, they look like springs.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Bouncing speedo needle

2006-08-17 Thread Euan
Hi there from the Antipodes (again) 

 

My wagon has been off the road for six weeks pending resolution of my
leaking spring struts issue. Back on the road yesterday, I noticed that
after the wagon had been sitting in the sun for a few hours, the speedo
needle was bouncing around significantly at speeds between 20-70 kph.
Typically, it passes through an arc of up to 10-12 kph. This makes it very
hard to judge road speed, an explanation which fell on the deaf ears of the
Constable and his radar yesterday afternoon. 

 

At night, when conditions are considerably cooler, the speedo is relatively
steady at all velocities. 

 

I've attempted to remedy this problem several times in the past by replacing
the speedo cable but this fix is never permanent. It seems likely then that
the fault is in the speedo instrument itself. After all, this - and not the
cable - is exposed to the heat of the sun. 

 

So, a couple of questions:

 

(1)Is it possible or wise to lubricate the speedo cable from the
instrument end?

(2)Has anyone found and fixed the source of this problem in the speedo
instrument itself?

 

Thanks

 

Euan

 

1985 300TD 5-spd manual

201K mi

 

_

 

Euan S Kennedy

Christchurch 8061

NZ



[MBZ] Carfax

2006-08-17 Thread Chase Kaufman
Hello everyone, looks like I may finally be able to get the SEC I've always 
wanted, provided it checks out in carfax. Could anyone help me with this?


WDBCA45D2GA230428

Thanks!

Chase M.K.





Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread mfinch
I've run about two tanks of pure vegetable oil through so far. The engine 
runs quieter (vegetable oil has better lubricity that dino diesel) and it 
starts much more quickly than it used to. My theory about that is the 
solvent qualities of the vegetable oil have cleaned out the injectors. 

--mf 




Gary Hurst writes: 

still better than 3 bucks a gallon though, no? 




On 8/17/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


FYI - I've run over 40,000 miles on vegoil in my S350. It works fine.
YMMV (pun intended) 





Re: [MBZ] Carfax

2006-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Vehicle Snapshot
Vehicle 1986 Mercedes-Benz 560 Series 560SEC
VIN WDBCA45D2GA230428
Body Style 2 Door Coupe
Country of Manufacture Germany


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records for this 1986 MERCEDES-BENZ 560 SERIES 560SEC. Note the 
highlighted rows for potential issues that could affect the value of 
this vehicle.


Date Location Mileage Description
1998-03-12 CA 61910 passed emission inspection
1999-03-12 reseda, CA 65005 passed emission inspection
1999-03-25 woodland hills, CA  title
2001-05-02 CA 78961 passed emission inspection
2005-01-11 CA 98360 passed emission inspection
2005-06-06 CA 97200 odometer reading from dmv
2005-10-31 CA  failed emission inspection
2005-11-01 CA 98366 passed emission inspection
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Department of Motor Vehicles.
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inspection.

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 Highlights from our Editor's Review of the 1986 Mercedes-Benz 560 
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wanted, provided it checks out in carfax. Could anyone help me with this?


WDBCA45D2GA230428

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Chase M.K.



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Re: [MBZ] Bouncing speedo needle

2006-08-17 Thread Jim Cathey

(1)Is it possible or wise to lubricate the speedo cable from the
instrument end?


I have.

(2)Has anyone found and fixed the source of this problem in the 
speedo

instrument itself?


You can lubricate the sleeve bearing in the head.  Often is what's
wrong, it was with our 450 SL.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Blower motor irregularities - 1982 300SD

2006-08-17 Thread Jim Cathey

This a 123 wagon.  Is there away to test it?


An ohmeter, one that reads low ohms usefully.  Measure
across each 'spring', each ought to have continuity.
You can see any deformation faults, also, so if there's
continuity on each one and it passes visual inspection...

-- Jim




[MBZ] Bouncing speedo needle Part 2

2006-08-17 Thread Euan
Might be able to answer my own first question - can speedo cables be
lubricated?

 

Apparently not. The cable acts as a kind of worm gear which works the oil
back out again.

 

Is that how you guys see it too?

 

Euan

 

_

 

Euan S Kennedy

Christchurch 8061

NZ

 

 

 



Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?

2006-08-17 Thread Bob Rentfro
I've put two consecutive tankfuls of bio in since I've several trips 
downtown to take SWMBO to jury duty (that takes me right past the lone bio 
pump in town). I had to get emissions done yesterday and it was comical 
watching those knucks. My yucking it up was split between their yearly 
confusion on how to deal with my car and their stupid looks wondering what 
that odd smell was and where it was coming from.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 157K
'87 Acura Legend  177K
Still waiting on '72 350SL  78K
Litchfield Park, AZ



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Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Are you watching myth busters right now?



still better than 3 bucks a gallon though, no?

plus the advantage of everyone being able to smell you coming from 2 miles
away


On 8/17/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


FYI - I've run over 40,000 miles on vegoil in my S350. It works fine.
YMMV (pun intended)

Costs are not insignificant. Pumps, motors, filters, storage
containers, hydraulic couplings, tubing, all add up. Not to mention
what you have to do to your car.

-Dave Walton
87SDL, 94S350, 99E300

On 8/17/06, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i've actually run the same experiment on my 81 TD

 ran nicely for about 5 miles, albeit it smelled funny.

 turns out veggie acts as kind of a solvent and does a nice job of
bringing
 all the algae and such into the fuel system.

 about 15 inline filters later, all was well

 i have some doubts about using veggie long term, but largely because i
 consider it unproven.  my neighbor is a veggie nut and he has run maybe
9k
 miles on it.

 cheap/free fuel is very appealing though, too appealing right now to
think
 that veggie is going to go away.  our friend oren will deliver ready to
go
 veggie fuel at $1.25 a gallon for those who dont want to mess with
it.  or
 you can just gather and make your own for cost of your time and effort.


 On 8/17/06, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well, they had it lik in a 2 liter bottle hanging above the hood as I
  recall, but yeah, pretty anticlimactic, it just worked.
  The only thing that made me a bit worried was they ended it with:
Yeah,
  you
  can just run your diesel on straight vegetable oil without a problem
 
  Umm...  sure, depending on where you live and how long you want it to
  work...
 
  Kinda lik some of their other auto tests, like throwing sugar and
bleach
  and
  what-not in your tank.  Nope, didn't cause a problem, it doesn't hurt
  anything.
  Sure...  right now
 
  It's probably my favorite show, but they really don't seem to do much
  background on actually learning about these myths, or at least the
  vehicular
  stuff and they don't seem to know all that much about cars and
engines...
 
  Levi (:
 
  On 8/17/06, Robert  Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I missed that one.
   Must have been pretty anti climactic. What did they do, pour it in
and
   watch it run?
  
   ---Robert
  
   Roger Conlon wrote:
Probably the same benz they used to run on straight veggie.
   
Roger
   
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Re: [MBZ] Very rare find --

2006-08-17 Thread Michael Hall

Mitch Haley wrote:

OK Don wrote:
  

A 1987 300D sedan turbo diesel - Never been raced!

http://tinyurl.com/nee3d




I thought that 'never been raced' might be in reference to some kind of
hot rod, like Casey's intercooled 603, or some of the CrazyFinn stuff. 
In reference to a stock but well-worn 300d, it does sound pretty silly. 
I also have my doubts about the 36mpg claimed.


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Yeah, our 87 only got 26-28 before the 5-speed swap - now it gets ~32, 
but we drive it hard.

Mike



[MBZ] OT - GMC Diesel?

2006-08-17 Thread R A Bennell
I went back and looked at the thread relating to Kaleb's questions a month ago 
relating to Diesel trucks. Quite a
bit about Ford and Dodge but very little about GM except a comment by Kaleb 
that he has had good experience with
them and another comment that they have aluminum heads and a fear of the same.

So what else is there?

I have not seen the truck that I saw advertised  but it is a 97 GMC with a 6.5 
Turbo and just over 100K miles. Hope
to get time to run over and have a look at it.

Randy





[MBZ] 190D

2006-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-1987-Mercedes-190D-Diesel-2-5L-35mpg-Excellent_W0QQitemZ200018528814QQihZ010QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



[MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-1987-Mercedes-Benz-190D-2-5-Turbo-Diesel-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ280018900556QQihZ018QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



[MBZ] its pretty bad when the spare tire is rusty

2006-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-220-D-VINTAGE-1973-MERCEDES-BENZ-220-D-4-DOOR-ONE-OWNER-NR_W0QQitemZ110022810938QQihZ001QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Re: [MBZ] its pretty bad when the spare tire is rusty

2006-08-17 Thread Chuck Landenberger

But, Kaleb, it's been in Alabama for 33 years

take care,

Chuck
On Aug 17, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-220-D- 
VINTAGE-1973-MERCEDES-BENZ-220-D-4-DOOR-ONE-OWNER- 
NR_W0QQitemZ110022810938QQihZ001QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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Re: [MBZ] Lift Pumps

2006-08-17 Thread Peter Frederick
Leaking hoses and/or bad o-rings in the fuel heater thermostadt.  Lift 
pumps almost never go bad.


Peter
On Aug 17, 2006, at 1:45 PM, ned kleinhenz wrote:

Do the fuel lift pumps of 60X engines go bad?  Is this a common 
problem?

Are they expensive to replace?  Can they leak?

I have an inconsistent fuel leak from my '95 E300D.
It is hard to start and looses power sometimes when accelerating.
I suspect there is a leak somewhere upstream of the FI pump.
It may let air in while running and fuel out when parked (sometimes)

Anyone familiar with the 606.910 can tell you that you cannot see the 
fuel

system with the engine running.
And to inspect the fuel system, you have to remove the crossover pipe, 
and

usually the intake manifold - then you can't run the engine.

So the only way I know to repair a fuel leak near the injecton pump is 
to
remove the intake system and start cleaning and replacing everything 
that

looks suspicious.

Is it worth replacing the lift pump while in there?

Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2
'85 300D
'80 300TD
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