[MBZ] OT maybe tomorrow
Thanks Jim, OK Don, Steve and Kaleb. I'll wait and try Bellsouth tomorrow, I thought I had seen 24/7 for tech support but couldn't find that claim when I went back. I'll try their chat service first. Its lonely out here. Harry
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: Flex joint in 300TD exhaust systerm]
You should also verify that the center mount is good and the rubber hanger is in good shape. On the W124, this is a three-hole affair that supports the pipe just behind the center muffler. If it is bad (stretched rubber), it won't hold the pipe up against the center body bumper and the whole pipe will vibrate too much. Verify the condition of the transmission rear mount (not the pipe hanger, the on the tranny sits on) and both engine mounts as well -- collapsed or broken mounts will allow excessive engine vibration that will get transmitted to the exhaust. I dont' remember if you are discussing a W123 or W124 chassis, but the W124 engine mounts are gel filled with a suspending spring inside -- when they rupture (as they eventually will), the engine will bounce terribly on that spring, much much worse than collapsed mounts on the W123 chassis. On the W123, usually excessive vibration is a result of dead engine shocks or a separated mount allowing the engine to fly free on one side. That flex pipe is more for shaping the pipe that for flexibility, it's about as flexible as flex water pipes. Easily bent, but not like hose! Peter
Re: [MBZ] Flex joint in 300TD exhaust system
We're all RHD vehicles over here. So I guess a turbo would be a rarity. Pity. I forgot to mention that I was contemplating a flex-joint in the horizontal section of the system, just aft of the rigid suspension mount on the transmission. That's where most seem to be fitted retrospectively. My wagon does not have a factory-fitted flex-joint in the header pipe (which is the original), unless you're referring to the arrangement at the header pipe-manifold join. Cheers Euan Euan - They were around all right, it is standard equipment on my '81 SD. But does your car have a turbo supercharger? If not, that may be the difference. I just looked at Randy's site for the exhaust system on an '85 turbo TD and they show a flex joint in the header pipe just like my SD. Maybe the NZ cars weren't turbos. Is that the case? Barry
Re: [MBZ] Test 3
Harry Watkins wrote: If this doesn't get back I'll unsubscribe. Maybe you should get a gmail.com or yahoo.com email addy for a while until bellsouth gets it worked out. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leaking around Injectors
Wish it was the hose, but it is motor oil around the injectors. hoping it's not what I fear ... Bill 1981 300 TD Peter Frederick wrote: Most likely the overlfow hoses are going bad and leaking. This will, of course, only get worse. Use only the factory hose to replace them, nothing else (except maybe viton) seems to hold up at all. They usually require replacement every three or four years. Sometimes they get rock hard, so if you do the job yourself, make sure you get all the old rubber off the injector nipples, otherwise it tends to slice the new hose open as you install it, making it leak as badly as the old ones. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil leaking around Injectors
Probably a leaking valve cover then. Does it bubble when the engine is running? If so, it's compression leaking out from defective seals, usually at the injector to prechamber. Diesel fuel looks like motor oil (and will even smell like it) when strongly heated, all the lighter stuff boils off the engine. A compression leak will accumulate motor oil that is actually unburned diesel fuel. Peter
Re: [MBZ] SL500 for sale -- value?
My 13 year old just claims to be differently abled or differently perceiving when confronted with issues of this sort On Sep 16, 2006, at 9:37 PM, LT Don wrote: Children, children -- you are wrong is so confrontational. I suggest words like I have different information or my data suggests that you might be in error. D. On 9/16/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BT, YOU are wrong. Frank Pembleton wrote: Bzzt you're wrong. _ -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] holy smokes
Yet another POS bastardization which will only increase the value of those remaining examples of the model not improved On Sep 17, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190-E-5-0-V8 -190-E-2-3-5-0-V8-FORD- ENGINE_W0QQitemZ250028842951QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] SL500 for sale -- value?
You want to try rearranging that sentence into something that would pass 7th grade English? On 9/17/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Derails only existence on these lists is to stir up trouble and forward information off the list to another list. -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.
Re: [MBZ] Test 3
Yea, I am down to 92 GMail invites. On 9/17/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harry Watkins wrote: If this doesn't get back I'll unsubscribe. Maybe you should get a gmail.com or yahoo.com email addy for a while until bellsouth gets it worked out. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.
Re: [MBZ] Test 3
So, send him one - off list - along with a list of the virtues of Gmail for these applications. On 9/17/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea, I am down to 92 GMail invites. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Hold your posts
Harry, Get a Gmail account, you can use it just for list mail if you like. Gmail can be set for POP access, so you can download it via whatever mail client you prefer. Plus, if you really need to see list mail from Bell South (ie you use their online mail) Gmail can also be set for mail forwarding so the origination hope changes to a forward from google.com. Just a thought, Ed On 9/17/06, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be too unreasonable of me to ask you folks to hold your posts until I can get back on the list? Just write the stuff down for later posting and if I don't get back in a few months, just press on without me. I have no way to know if this goes through. Bye bye, farewell, its been nice, sigh. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] SL500 for sale -- value?
It seems pretty clear to me. Maybe you have too much soy in your ears. LT Don wrote: You want to try rearranging that sentence into something that would pass 7th grade English? On 9/17/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Derails only existence on these lists is to stir up trouble and forward information off the list to another list. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Club 123D car show pics
That Milan Brown 300D is a twin of my 300D although it's newer. Mine was cleaner, though. And only one picture of it and HOW many of the rolling total white 240D? RLE
Re: [MBZ] Oil leaking around Injectors
Sounds like there is a bad seal(s) causing the black stuff to ooze out around the injector. The valve cover gasket is good .. have not noticed it when the engine is running will check tomorrow for bubbles. Sounds like an easy job: remove injector and seal, install new seals and injector is this a general outline for this type of repair TIA Bill 1981 300 TD p.s. will turning the injector a bit, may be fix the problem Peter Frederick wrote: Probably a leaking valve cover then. Does it bubble when the engine is running? If so, it's compression leaking out from defective seals, usually at the injector to prechamber. Diesel fuel looks like motor oil (and will even smell like it) when strongly heated, all the lighter stuff boils off the engine. A compression leak will accumulate motor oil that is actually unburned diesel fuel. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil leaking around Injectors
The injectors are torqued to spec in place... make sure the seal/crush washer (both terms are used around here) is installed properly. It's sort of dark down there unless you have a really good light source for repairs, so it's possible to have the seal flip over on you when you put it into place. Don't ask how I know that. Mac on 9/17/06 10:58 PM, Bill Gallagher at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like there is a bad seal(s) causing the black stuff to ooze out around the injector. The valve cover gasket is good .. have not noticed it when the engine is running will check tomorrow for bubbles. Sounds like an easy job: remove injector and seal, install new seals and injector is this a general outline for this type of repair TIA Bill 1981 300 TD p.s. will turning the injector a bit, may be fix the problem Peter Frederick wrote: Probably a leaking valve cover then. Does it bubble when the engine is running? If so, it's compression leaking out from defective seals, usually at the injector to prechamber. Diesel fuel looks like motor oil (and will even smell like it) when strongly heated, all the lighter stuff boils off the engine. A compression leak will accumulate motor oil that is actually unburned diesel fuel. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Club 123D car show pics
That Milan Brown 300D is a twin of my 300D although it's newer. Mine was cleaner, though. So that's how the Germans spell root beer! (Looks like our 450 SL is that color.) I always thought the 123 coupe would make a fine looking convertible, but their choice of where to cut through the roof was wrong. Looks too much like I cut through the roof here to my eye. Makes my 250C conversion convertible look much better. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Club 123D car show pics
Um, what's the story with the sedan that looks like it was rescued from a chop shop? Does he do courier or fast food delivery, or WHAT? Man, I thought my second 240d looked rough. Not anymore. Mac on 9/17/06 2:24 PM, tom savage at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last weekend Vince Layton and Club 123D sponsored the first annual All-123 car show. Nine cars in attendance, covering the spectrum from a NOS 240D to a not-so-new 240D, a 300CD convertible, and a bunch of daily drivers in between. I took a few pics of some of the more distinguished attendees: http://thomas.savage.org/123/ A good time was had by all, and many thanks to Vince for putting on such a great show. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Club 123D car show pics
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So which one is vince? I don't think I got a pic of him. Really nice guy, though. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That Milan Brown 300D is a twin of my 300D although it's newer. Mine was cleaner, though. Must have been one clean 300D, not that I doubt you, knowing your ways as I do. The one pictured is about the cleanest 21-year-old daily driver I've ever seen. Did you look at the footwell pic? Steve MacSween wrote: Um, what's the story with the sedan that looks like it was rescued from a chop shop? Does he do courier or fast food delivery, or WHAT? Man, I thought my second 240d looked rough. Not anymore. 240D as performance art. Basically a very knowledgeable longtime Mercedes fan owner interested only in function and cost. I gather he's used the car for just about everything you can imagine. It was bursting with wonderful surprises, like the Mitsubishi radiator and the oil cooler sitting atop the wheel well with a bicycle innertube tied around it. And the tractor hand throttle cum cruise control and the unopened tins of wax in the trunk. Runs like a top, though; he's running all synthetic fluids in it. Tom
Re: [MBZ] Club 123D car show pics
Presumably the 'Nitrous Oxide Systems' sticker on the back of the convert is more body art a la the phony tail pipes. Don't see any signs of plumbing for same in what I take to be the engine compartment pic. What's with the breather in that pic, anyway? They do that differently in '81 than '80, or is that another hack job? -joe
[MBZ] How much Antifreeze do I need
Hi, all- It's time for me to put a block heater in da Benz (1980 300CD.) How much fluid do I need to fill the radiator back up once I drain it? Lee
Re: [MBZ] How much Antifreeze do I need
One jug (gallon?) of coolant plus one gallon of water seems to fill up my 240D. On 9/18/06, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all- It's time for me to put a block heater in da Benz (1980 300CD.) How much fluid do I need to fill the radiator back up once I drain it? Lee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.
Re: [MBZ] How much Antifreeze do I need
One jug (gallon?) of coolant plus one gallon of water seems to fill up my 240D. More will be required if the block is drained (as it will be). -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Hold your posts
Please, everyone, just get Gmail fer cryin out loud! All the technical problems associated with access and archiving are resolved, AND, there's no need for those silly and annoying Digest accounts. On 9/17/06, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get a Gmail account... Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (218k) '84 300D (216k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] How much Antifreeze do I need
Somewhat unrelated, but where could a smell of diesel fuel be emanating from on a 1985 300CD. I checked the obvious places (injector lines, fuel filler) buit they were not at fault. It seems to come from the driver's side of the car as it passes me by. There are no visible fuel leaks either when the vehicle is at rest... On 9/18/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One jug (gallon?) of coolant plus one gallon of water seems to fill up my 240D. More will be required if the block is drained (as it will be). -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Club 123D car show pics
Reminder to 123 fans - if anyone wants a great 1985 300D parts car with a shot interior but good drive train and four recently flat tires, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 202 744-8748. The car has a lot of new parts (e.g., radiator) and was a decent daily driver not that long ago. It could move again if the tires were replaced... Can be towed anytime. Located in Laurel, MD (between D.C. and Baltimore). Asking price is now down to $800. I have no financial stake in this transaction... Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300CD hers (diamond blue/blue) On 9/18/06, Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Presumably the 'Nitrous Oxide Systems' sticker on the back of the convert is more body art a la the phony tail pipes. Don't see any signs of plumbing for same in what I take to be the engine compartment pic. What's with the breather in that pic, anyway? They do that differently in '81 than '80, or is that another hack job? -joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Let this be a lesson
David wrote:ribbed pulleys face the ribbed side of the belt, and smooth pulleys face the smooth side. Thanks David - I learn something new on this list everyday!! Thanks! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let this be a lesson LarryT wrote: Sorry to hear you had so much trouble. About the serp. belt arrangement - if you have a owners manual there will be a diagram in there. There's also a sticker near the radiator showing how it fits - with numbers on each pulley showing the sequence of installation.- Another good trick for serpentine belts (on any car) is to remember that ribbed pulleys face the ribbed side of the belt, and smooth pulleys face the smooth side. Probably obvious, but I thought I'd throw it out there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Smell -- *Was* How much Antifreeze do I need
Hi Andrew - Check the fuel lines under the car coming from the fuel tank - there's 2 and IIRC they're on the passenger side of the rear axle - one supply and one return line - they are the typical cloth covered fuel line which tends to break down and leak after years of use. You will have fuel pouring out when you try to change the hoses - I suggest you take a look and try to buy all the possible parts so they can be changed at the same time. The strainer that screws into the bottom of the fuel tank can be cleaned or replaced at this time also. BTW, there's a special hose with a unique fitting on the end - MB is the only place to get it. It makes life easier to hand all the parts readily at hand. If these's aren't leaking, it may be the in the engine compartment - if the leaking line is near a hot area such as a manifold -- the lines can leak but the nearby heat makes the leaking fuel evaporate so a leak cannot be found. HTH's Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How much Antifreeze do I need Somewhat unrelated, but where could a smell of diesel fuel be emanating from on a 1985 300CD. I checked the obvious places (injector lines, fuel filler) buit they were not at fault. It seems to come from the driver's side of the car as it passes me by. There are no visible fuel leaks either when the vehicle is at rest...
[MBZ] Can't Open Trunk
I can't get the trunk lid to unlock on my '85 300D, it is new to me and have never had it open. Have all the keys and using the master key, but the button won't go all the way in to release the latch. I've pulled the cable under the rear seat while having my wife work on the trunk lock, but no go. Anyone have an idea? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN
[MBZ] OT Final test, I hope
Does my gmail work?
Re: [MBZ] OT Final test, I hope
Roger roger, Roger On 9/18/06, Jimmie Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does my gmail work? -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (218k) '84 300D (216k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] clean 300D
,Must have been one clean 300D, not that I doubt you, knowing your ways as I do. The one pictured is about the cleanest 21-year-old daily driver I've ever seen. Did you look at the footwell pic? The car shows constant daily care and was not cleaned up just for the event. We compulsive car owners know how many hours per week it takes, believe me. But, all of my cars since I was a teenager have been cared for this way. Even the temporary transportation cars, to a degree. Such as my '60 Falcon. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Bad example 123
.240D as performance art. Basically a very knowledgeable longtime Mercedes fan owner interested only in function and cost. Are you sure the owner didn't bring the car just to thumb his nose at the rest? Decades ago at a Monterey Historics when MB has the featured marque, a local contingent of the Gull Wing Group appeared in the Laguna Seca paddock, prior to a parade lap. Overdressed women and men wearing blazers and ascots. And tagging along behind was what must have been the world's worst 300SL Roadster. Left front fender smashed, paint oxidized to flat grey, interior a pit and an owner dressed like a bum. All deliberate, seemed to me. The rest of the 300SL owners nearly fainted when this guy joined the parade lap. It was wonderful. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Can't Open Trunk
What cable under the rear seat? On 18 Sep 2006 17:50:24 -, Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't get the trunk lid to unlock on my '85 300D, it is new to me and have never had it open. Have all the keys and using the master key, but the button won't go all the way in to release the latch. I've pulled the cable under the rear seat while having my wife work on the trunk lock, but no go. Anyone have an idea? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bad example 123
One of the MBCA sections (Peachtree) has an annual Concours dordinaire, which encourages the un-spiffiest to flaunt their gauche Benzes and rewards those that represent the peak of the genre. Next one is Sept. 30 in Athens, GA On 9/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .240D as performance art. Basically a very knowledgeable longtime Mercedes fan owner interested only in function and cost. Are you sure the owner didn't bring the car just to thumb his nose at the rest? Decades ago at a Monterey Historics when MB has the featured marque, a local contingent of the Gull Wing Group appeared in the Laguna Seca paddock, prior to a parade lap. Overdressed women and men wearing blazers and ascots. And tagging along behind was what must have been the world's worst 300SL Roadster. Left front fender smashed, paint oxidized to flat grey, interior a pit and an owner dressed like a bum. All deliberate, seemed to me. The rest of the 300SL owners nearly fainted when this guy joined the parade lap. It was wonderful. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bad example 123
andrew strasfogel wrote: One of the MBCA sections (Peachtree) has an annual Concours dordinaire, which encourages the un-spiffiest to flaunt their gauche Benzes and rewards those that represent the peak of the genre. Next one is Sept. 30 in Athens, GA I once showed up at a Volvo show with the very rusty 240DL I owned, at the time. It was a real heap, rust holes everywhere, silicone around the rear windows, pop-riveted patches on the tailgate and rear quarters, bumper held on with parachute cord. I wrote on the display form that I was competing in the category of best use of silicone sealer and related adhesives.
Re: [MBZ] Hold your posts
rumor has it that Zeitgeist wrote: Please, everyone, just get Gmail fer cryin out loud! All the technical problems associated with access and archiving are resolved, AND, there's no need for those silly and annoying Digest accounts. caution, rant mode on Only if you are one of those people who read email while online. Which to me is as silly as reading my mail sitting in the postoffice! Gmail has some nice, but is not the holy grail and it does _not_ solve All the technical problems associated with access and archiving! Note that I use Gmail, so I'm not opposed to it. I just get irritated with folks that think there is only one way to read email. _I_ think that you all should use fetchmail, run it throught spamassasin and procmail. Then hand it to an IMAP server setup for local access. Toss in mairix for indexed searching and who need Google! end rant mode --Philip, opinionated
[MBZ] OT trying to get gmail
Thanks to all who responded about my not being able to receive posts from the list. Thanks Chuck, for the bag of posts. I did not mean I was going to unsubscribe forever, only until I can get back in. I am trying to take up on the many suggestions to use gmail but so far, they have not sent me a code. I wonder if these folks are kin to Bellsouth folks, h. Harry From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 19 13:39:42 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GPfp8-0006xr-8W for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:39:42 + Received: from dogear.com (jimc.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.197] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k8JDdxnV024930 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 19 Sep 2006 06:39:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 06:39:35 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Tue, 19 Sep 2006 06:39:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can't Open Trunk X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:39:42 - I am assuming this is a 123 model. On my 126, sometimes I could only unlock the trunk by unlocking the passenger door with a key. I have no idea why this worked, but it did. Semi-leaky pod in the passenger door, so that moving _it_ by hand (instead of one of the others) eased the load on the pump. Or, some kind of leak in any of the others that spawned such an effect secondarily. -- Jim
