[MBZ] proof even a turd can look good

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

[MBZ] 1983 240D Front Torsion Bar - repair or replace?

[MICHAEL ESH]

New member of the family  - 1983 240D   $350.00 for car and $650 for brake 
parts, battery, towing tires.  

The drivers side front torsion bar where it hooks to the control arm is rusted 
away.

1. Is this a difficult fix on the 240D?  It looks like I just have remove brake 
master cylinder and the battery and box.  
2. Where can I get this part?  New or Used?  I will also need all the parts to 
re-attach it.  Kaleb do have one?


Thanks in advance

1981 300SD
1982 300TD
1973 220D
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I have plenty, come on down and pull one and its yours for free. No, I
will not pull it for you.

MICHAEL ESH wrote:

> New member of the family  - 1983 240D   $350.00 for car and $650 for brake 
> parts, battery, towing tires.
>
> The drivers side front torsion bar where it hooks to the control arm is 
> rusted away.
>
> 1. Is this a difficult fix on the 240D?  It looks like I just have remove 
> brake master cylinder and the battery and box.
> 2. Where can I get this part?  New or Used?  I will also need all the parts 
> to re-attach it.  Kaleb do have one?
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> 1981 300SD
> 1982 300TD
> 1973 220D
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  91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
  87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
  84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] right up MacSwines alley

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Our Most Honored Grand Ayatollah, Stu, said it was ok to put this out to the
list.

Here's the honest deal.  I usta' be 'in the business'.and now I'd rather
build cabinetsdo trim.or even be robbed, raped, beaten, 
strangled, and
mutilated (I think that's an old Monte Python line...or was it Saturday 
Night

Live.) than work on cars  I just grew tired of it.

I've got this realy solid '82 W126 300SD.  Texas bodyzero
rust.fadedbut original-appearing (still wearin' brushed-on 
pinstripe)

paintgrungy, semi-tacky (actually more grungy than tacky) interior (and
bone-dry inside)nice wood..no 'aftermarket stereo' console 
mayhem and
a REALLY, really, most sincerely dead (broken timing chain) OM617but 
(and
I know the guy I took it on trade from) well maintained.  Decent 
(matched and

all of half-there) rubber, 5 alloyseven the hood star is still there.
Really nice sheetmetal, bumpers, and outside trim.  Couple minor stone pecks
in the windshield that you have to look for.  Trunk is bone-dry, needs
vacuumedbut carpet/liners are mintoriginal Michelin spare, holddown
hardware, jack, and tool roll are also present.

In terms of exterior cosmetics, an easy refinish would make this old 
girl look

REALLY tall.  This would be a perfect donor for a bent/rusty W126.or if
you happen to have a good-runnin' turbo OM617 and the desire to work on it.
(I've got the formerbut not the latter.)  It's got approx. 225K on 
itI
know the front suspension's been rebuilt, a new turbo added, fresh pump, 
and a

bunch-o-brake work.  According to the previos owner.the A/C even worked.
Butit's been sitting in my parking lot for a couple years, so all 
bets are

off.  Whatcha' see is whatcha' get.

It's 100% complete except for a battery,the manuals and the first aid 
kit, and

too much car to send off to the crusher a $80/ton (and I've done that with a
bunch of 'em already).

I need to re-iterate.  PLEASE buy this car assuming the engine is 100% 
scrap.

The timing chain snapped at a highway speed.  It looks UGLY under the cam
cover.  You might tear it down and get 'lucky'.but I'm not going to lead
you down that path.  I repeat:  Assume the motor is absolute junk and the
transmisson is fine and neither of us will be surprised.

Did I mention that the motor is shot?

I won't ship itI won't part it..but I'll help you push/pull it 
on yer'

trailer.  You will get a clean, legit and open Pennsylvania title.

$800 in the form of Dead Presidentsor $850 via PayPal..or *maybe* an
offerbut it really oughtta' be cheap for the asking price(three 
years
agoI paid 2K for the 'front clip' this car's wearing).unless you 
just

happen to have a nice used Delta Unisawor maybe a Powermatic PM2000 that
you don't need.then we can play "let's make a deal"..I could 
send you

home with a car AND $$.

No trades involving anything I have to feed, water, clean up after, or pay
taxes on.

Here's some pictures...

http://www.msdra.com/old/82300sdlf.jpg

http://www.msdra.com/old/82300sdlr.jpg

http://www.msdra.com/old/82300sdrtfrt.jpg

http://www.msdra.com/old/82300sdfrtint.jpg

http://www.msdra.com/old/82300sdrrint.jpg

Thanks!

Jim Steere
Crystal, MI
(989) 330-4648
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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] OOPS 603 PS pump

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Why would you need to pull the pulley to get the belt back on?  You must 
not be doing something right.  Everytime I have done this job the belt 
just falls off everything.  After you pull the top bolt for the spring 
are you getting a prybar or something to pry the left side of the 
tensioner up to give you slack?


Loren Faeth wrote:

I went out tonight to replace the belt on my SDL, and the new belt was too 
tight to get over the pulleys, by my memory, this is normal.  What I 
normally do is take the pulley off the PS pump, slip the belt in place and 
then put the bolts back in the pulley, and that pretty well tensions the 
belt before I cinch  up the tensioner.


Tonight,  The pulley was stuck on the hub, which is also normal.  I tapped 
on the back side of the pulley, and after a while, ended up with the pulley 
and pump shaft slid out!  OOPS!  Is there a circlip or other fastener that 
is supposed to hold the PS pump shaft in the pump?  I thought maybe it was 
a loose force fit.  I unbolted the pump and held it up where I could whack 
the end of the shaft.  It seemed to seat, so I put it back together.  In 
the process of putting on the pulley, I noticed the shaft had slid out a mm 
or so again.  It seems the only thing holding the shaft in is the position 
of the belt.


This does not seem too stable or reliable.  Anyone out there rebuilt a 
standard PS pump before?  I know the tandem pump has a pin in the shaft to 
hold it in.  What is the likely cause of my shaft coming out?


If any of you need to tap on the PS pulley to get it off the shaft, I'd now 
recommend tapping backwards, not forwards.  This will tap the shaft into 
the pump. not out.


Anyone got a spare pump?  86 SDL

Loren
86 SDL 400K
87SDL




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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

[MBZ] I buy a 240D turbo today

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

So I head over to another town to pick up a 450SEL I had bought a while 
back that was parked at this small car lot.  I get there and notice a 
sad looking 115 240D in the corner.  I ask the dude the story, says a 
guy parked it there 5-6 years ago for him to sell and has since died. 
Nobody knew where the title was or the key.  He says he thinks there is 
something wrong with either the motor or tranny.  I head on over and 
notice its a 4 speed.  Cool.  I then pop the hood and get to looking at 
the motor.  Im looking at the air intake from the filter to the manifold 
and it looks wierd.  Funny.  Now I spot the turbo under all that.  WOW, 
never seen one of them turbo aftermarket deals before.  I figure thats 
what killed the motor if its really dead.  I make the guy a lowball 
offer, he takes it.  I head home with the first car, then go back for 
the 2nd car.  Been hauling cars all day.  Filled up 2 times in that 
other town with diesel at 2.19.  Cheapest I have seen anywhere around 
here.  Anyway, not sure if the 240D is parts or put it back on the road. 
 It has one of those pimp recovering jobs on the seats, so I really 
need to find all new red seats for 115, if anybody spots any.

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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

[MBZ] OOPS 603 PS pump

[Loren Faeth]

I went out tonight to replace the belt on my SDL, and the new belt was too 
tight to get over the pulleys, by my memory, this is normal.  What I 
normally do is take the pulley off the PS pump, slip the belt in place and 
then put the bolts back in the pulley, and that pretty well tensions the 
belt before I cinch  up the tensioner.


Tonight,  The pulley was stuck on the hub, which is also normal.  I tapped 
on the back side of the pulley, and after a while, ended up with the pulley 
and pump shaft slid out!  OOPS!  Is there a circlip or other fastener that 
is supposed to hold the PS pump shaft in the pump?  I thought maybe it was 
a loose force fit.  I unbolted the pump and held it up where I could whack 
the end of the shaft.  It seemed to seat, so I put it back together.  In 
the process of putting on the pulley, I noticed the shaft had slid out a mm 
or so again.  It seems the only thing holding the shaft in is the position 
of the belt.


This does not seem too stable or reliable.  Anyone out there rebuilt a 
standard PS pump before?  I know the tandem pump has a pin in the shaft to 
hold it in.  What is the likely cause of my shaft coming out?


If any of you need to tap on the PS pulley to get it off the shaft, I'd now 
recommend tapping backwards, not forwards.  This will tap the shaft into 
the pump. not out.


Anyone got a spare pump?  86 SDL

Loren
86 SDL 400K
87SDL




Loren Faeth 

Re: [MBZ] injector line clips

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

you should be able to get all the info you need right here.

Curt Raymond wrote:


After I replaced the bad injector line last night I noticed there are very few 
plastic clips anywhere on the lines.
Rusty's site says I should have 5 lines total, I also have a plastic bumper that doesn't seem to show up on Rusty's list. Anybody BTDT on a 601? 
Theres a thread on the Bimby board about it but I can't recall my login and password over there and it takes awhile for it to reset them.


-Curt


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 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump

[Rich Thomas]

Put a vac meter on it, see what it says. I think a good pull is like 
13-17" if I recall from when I did mine. If it is down to a few inches, 
then that is too low.


--R

Curt Raymond wrote:

Hey folks,

How do I know if the vacuum pump on my '85 190D is going out? Its slow to 
develop vacuum at low speed, when I back out of my driveway in the morning I've 
got no power brakes. By the end of my street like 50 yards away everything is 
fine.
I replaced a short bit of line from the pump up to IIRC a tee not long ago 
which made the car shut off better but this is a new behavior.

It looks like the vacuum pump is easy to replace, maybe have to pull the belt 
but no other major parts. Anybody BTDT?

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] injector line clips

[Loren Faeth]

Rusty should be able to get you  set up, give him a call or send an email 
tonight.  On the 603, I have done it.  I think your 601 probably has only 
the  2 line clips.  the trick is to make sure the rubber pad is behind the 
line, then stick both legs of the clip in.  then take a fairly big flat 
screwdriver and push one side in, then the other.  once in a while, you can 
get them to snap in without the screwdriver, but it makes it a lot 
easier.  The 603 has both 2 line and 3 line clips.  Actually the last order 
I think I ordered 1 2 line clip and got 10.  I have a whole mess of spares 
now, but with 3 603s, I figure I will use them up in time.


At 03:40 PM 10/4/2006, you wrote:
After I replaced the bad injector line last night I noticed there are very 
few plastic clips anywhere on the lines.
Rusty's site says I should have 5 lines total, I also have a plastic 
bumper that doesn't seem to show up on Rusty's list. Anybody BTDT on a 601?
Theres a thread on the Bimby board about it but I can't recall my login 
and password over there and it takes awhile for it to reset them.


-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] drugs?

[Mitch Haley]

Jeff Zedic wrote:
> 
> Dude!
> 
> That's a 300D Adenauer!
> 
> It's an awesome car and that is pretty cheap because it's a
> shitbox...Good luck getting parts!

I love the description: This $25,000 car would run, but I'm too cheap to stick
a battery in it.

Re: [MBZ] Camera proofing your car's license plate

[Mitch Haley]

Levi Smith wrote:
> 
> Agreed then that really the only issue is the length of the yellow light.
> As long as I have enough time to see the light turn yellow and come to a
> stop without moderately heavy braking there should be no issue.

I was on a road north of Columbus, OH, and there were warning lights
about 1/8 mile from the intersections. If the lights are flashing, the
traffic light is going to be red or yellow when you get there, so you
may as well lift throttle now and coast to the intersection. I imagine
it not only increases safety but saves fuel too. 

Mitch.

[MBZ] Vacuum pump

[Curt Raymond]

Hey folks,

How do I know if the vacuum pump on my '85 190D is going out? Its slow to 
develop vacuum at low speed, when I back out of my driveway in the morning I've 
got no power brakes. By the end of my street like 50 yards away everything is 
fine.
I replaced a short bit of line from the pump up to IIRC a tee not long ago 
which made the car shut off better but this is a new behavior.

It looks like the vacuum pump is easy to replace, maybe have to pull the belt 
but no other major parts. Anybody BTDT?

-Curt


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After I replaced the bad injector line last night I noticed there are very few 
plastic clips anywhere on the lines.
Rusty's site says I should have 5 lines total, I also have a plastic bumper 
that doesn't seem to show up on Rusty's list. Anybody BTDT on a 601? 
Theres a thread on the Bimby board about it but I can't recall my login and 
password over there and it takes awhile for it to reset them.

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I think you need to read the Car & Driver article about this of about two=20
issues back. The cameras are owned and installed by (after an ordinance is=20
created and a permit is issued) a private firm which collects the fees and s=
hares=20
them with the municipality. The PD is not involved and that's why no points=20=
are=20
assigned to the driver's license. That's how it's going to work in Kent, WA=20
south of Seattle, BTW.

How this plays out in traffic court when the accused pleads not guilty is=20
unknown to me. Maybe they bring in the camera.=20

J'accuse.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] drugs?

[Jeff Zedic]

Dude!

That's a 300D Adenauer!

It's an awesome car and that is pretty cheap because it's a 
shitbox...Good luck getting parts!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto

[MBZ] drugs?

[Curt Raymond]

http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/car/215974670.html
I'm not sure, I've never seen one of these before.

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It has a nice oriental rug under the driver's perch.  Perhaps that is an 
antique handmade Persian worth maybe $24,500 obo?

--R

Curt Raymond wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Delvac 1 supplier in the DC area?

[Karl Wittnebel]

Anyone know where to buy Delvac-1 in the Washington DC area? MB dealer here 
stopped carrying it a while ago...

Thanks,
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Here is the current list of RSVP's for the Q this year. If you haven't
signed up, do it now. Call us at 1-800-741-5252.

Hotel people are staying at:
http://marriott.com/property/propertypage/ATLTN

Location of Q: http://dunwoodynorth.org/dndc/index.htm

Attendees:

Ken Weimer

Kaleb Striplin

Regina Striplin

Chris Kueny

Colin Kueny

Bill Ricker

Tarek Elshanway

Rusty Cullens

Teri Cullens

Jane Mills

Jack Mills

Gary Hurst

Tom Benedikt

Sue Benedikt

Drew Tibcken

Linda Tibcken

Daryl Swain

Matthew Patterson

Ben Converse

Robbi Converse

Ron Frazier

Laura Frazier

Jay Tutt

Kay Tutt

Pete Manchee

Tess Manchee

Jim Ellington

Bo Cullens

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Dan Steadman

Sandy Steadman

Ken Ashbaugh

John Mcaa

Fred Weprich

Darlene Weprich

David White

Theresa White

Mitch Marmel

Tom Savage

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Joel Suttles

Gene Baldwin

Dana Beardon

Leland Hicks

Reg Grimes

Alan Grimes

Matthew Hills

Eva Hills

David Woods

Bill Converse

Keith Converse

Re: [MBZ] Camera proofing your car's license plate

[Levi Smith]

Agreed then that really the only issue is the length of the yellow light.
As long as I have enough time to see the light turn yellow and come to a
stop without moderately heavy braking there should be no issue.

To put it simply, there should be no point at which I say to myself "crap,
do I hit the brakes pretty hard, or will the light stay yellow long enough
to get through?".  Which as has been stated is further compounded when
weather is adverse.  It's also not as much of an issue at 30mph, but the
ones on the highway at 55mph intersections need a bit more time.

Of course the problem is that *I* will actually come to a stop at a yellow
light almost every time if I don't have to slam on the brakes.  Whereas most
other people would only increase their habit of "oh, there's plenty of time
to stop, but I think I can make it"  (except that they never even think of
stopping).

Levi (:

On 10/4/06, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


neither case is an issue (at least here), since the cams are only
triggered by
vehicles entering the intersection *after* the light turns red.


cheers!
e


Levi Smith wrote:

> If you're in the middle of the intersection (which I would assume would
mean
> you were under the traffic light and beyond where you could see the
color)
> then it could have been yellow when you were looking at it and turned
red
> after it went out of your vision...
>
> Another thought occurs to me: Are they stupid enough to put them at
> intersections where you have to wait for oncoming traffic?  At a busy
> intersection you have to pull into the middle to make a left turn under
a
> green light, but wait until it turns red for the oncoming traffic to
stop so
> that you can make the left...
>
> Levi



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Re: [MBZ] Camera proofing your car's license plate

[ernest breakfield]

neither case is an issue (at least here), since the cams are only triggered by
vehicles entering the intersection *after* the light turns red.


cheers!
e


Levi Smith wrote:

> If you're in the middle of the intersection (which I would assume would mean
> you were under the traffic light and beyond where you could see the color)
> then it could have been yellow when you were looking at it and turned red
> after it went out of your vision...
>
> Another thought occurs to me: Are they stupid enough to put them at
> intersections where you have to wait for oncoming traffic?  At a busy
> intersection you have to pull into the middle to make a left turn under a
> green light, but wait until it turns red for the oncoming traffic to stop so
> that you can make the left...
>
> Levi

Re: [MBZ] OT: Traffic Cams

[ernest breakfield]

i doubt they do, but would agree that they should,...


cheers!
e


LarryT wrote:

> Do the countdown indicators take weather into account?  Since rain adds
> greaty to the stopping distances --
>
> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)

[MBZ] 603 Anyone?

[Frederick W Moir]

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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust

[Rusty]

Yes.

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The parts are genuine and the price is good so I will go with you Rusty
after I determine if I'm buying both pieces or not.  The center muffler
rotted at the weld points going in and out of the muffler and at the
flange weld where it connects to the front pipe.  The rear muffler
rusted at all the weld points for the brackets but the muffler itself
only has surface rust.  I want to prop the muffler up to the front pipe
flange and attach it with a $1.99 adapter to hear what the car sounds
like without the center muffler.  This will determine whether I purchase
the rear muffler with or without the center muffler.  Might not get to
it until the weekend.  Prices good until next week?
   
  Thanks

"Potter, Tom E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  The muffler shop replaced the rear muffler on my 380SE for $65. I'm
sure
it was not GENUINE Mercedes, but it seemed to hold up OK.

Tom Potter

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My friend told me Adist had the Center and Rear mufflers for around 600.
When I looked it up the exact price would be $655. I checked with
Timevalve in CT mentioned in Peter Frederick's post.. they said 635.00
for the two mufflers. Can you get them for less? I didn't see anything
on the website.

Rusty wrote: Mark, that is a great price. Who
gave you that quote?

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My exhaust is rotting on my 1991 350SD. Priced the center and rear
muffler and comes to around $600. Does anyone know if the center
muffler can be eliminated. Is it for noise or emissions? 

Thanks 

Mark Maturo
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[MBZ] Injector line repair

[Curt Raymond]

So if you've got to have an injector line go bad on an OM601 the first one is 
probably the best. 15 minutes last night with a 14mm crowsfoot wrench on 2 
extensions (I couldn't find my 12" extension) did it. I did have to file a bit 
off the wrench as it wouldn't fit at first but then the actual wrenching was 
pretty easy.
Better yet the first line I grabbed from the box was the correct one...

Like a chowderhead I didn't order the clips when I ordered the lines, I'll have 
to get those before I replace the other 3 and make a good job of that.

-Curt


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> filtering qualitys, ha! ha!; so will save my money on this setup

Good.

> probably wanted it for same reason as my European headlights, or just 
> for
> looks?

Euro headlights are generally considered (here in the US) to both look
better _and_ work better.  The only exception I can think of is if you
keep the US headlight buckets of the 107/116/123 and replace the lamps
with E-code Hella/Cibie units, relay them, and stick in killer bulbs.
They don't look as good, but I think they can then be considered to
work _better_ than the Euros, but only because you can have two sets
of high beam bulbs on at once.  Excellent for finding deer on rural
roads at night.  Our 450 SL has 400W of high beams, and really lights
up the road.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 380 Engine

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

You have to pull everything off of the front of the engine and pull the 
front timing cover, then you can get to all the sprockets etc.  Im not 
sure on the 126, but on the 107 you either have to pull the engine or 
drop the subframe.  Im pretty sure on the 126 you just have to pull the 
engine.


LarryT wrote:


Hi Peter,
Sounds like a difficult engine to work on -- BTW, when changing from single 
row to double row TC, how is the lower sprocket changed?  I assume the crank 
must be removed?


The 380SEC is $1100 so the price is right - but the sunroof is missing so 
the interior may be trashed making the whole project suspect - especially if 
the engine needs to be reworked and interior restored.   Oh well, I may call 
the guy  and get a feel for how bad the car is -


Thanks again -

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That one is problematic -- the single row chain is VERY weak in
comparison to a dual row one, and should really be changed to a dual
row chain if the single one is still there.  Many were swapped early
on, though.

The other "gotcha" is that the block was just drilled and tapped for
the head bolts, and they very often simply remove the threads when the
heads are removed.  Special inserts must be used to repair it (they are
put in at the factory on all later engines), and a special jig is
required as they don't go in at a right angle to the block face.  About
$1500 last time I know anyone checked.

Otherwise it's identical to a 420 for all intents and purposes.  It IS
a hyper-ectotic (or whatever) silicone/aluminum block, meaning the
cylinder bores must be etched if you have to bore it out to remove the
aluminum from the precipitated silicon.  Only a problem if severely
overheated or run out of oil, otherwise the bores are pristine, no
matter what condition the heads are in.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

thats cool

David Brodbeck wrote:


Zoltan Finks wrote:


Wow. That's wierd. I've never thought of it that thoroughly, but are you
saying that slow traffic can cause stopped traffic behind it? This would
make sense if you figure that as you go back several dozen cars or more,
there might be speed lost over that number of cars, and eventually the speed
will be zero? Am I understanding this?
 



I think the state transition from slow traffic to stop-and-go often has
more to do with lane changes and merges, but traffic flows are really
chaotic...they transition pretty rapidly and suddenly from one state to
another.

If you want to play with your own little traffic system, there's a neat
little simulator here:
http://vwisb7.vkw.tu-dresden.de/~treiber/MicroApplet/


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Re: [MBZ] Camera proofing your car's license plate

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

unless you have a yellow light that only stays on for 1 second before 
turning red.


David Brodbeck wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

You seem to miss the big picture.  These cameras are operated by private 
companies who benifit from you getting a ticking from their camera that 
THEY control.  So those things often will give you a ticket or say you 
ran a light when you really didnt.



Maybe.  In some (most?) jurisdictions the video or picture has to be
reviewed by a police officer before a ticket is issued.  Since the
picture is generally framed to show both the car and the traffic light
this is pretty straightforward.  If the car is in the middle of the
intersection and the light is red, there's not much room to say you're
falsely accused.

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Re: [MBZ] 380 Engine

[OK Don]

I believe that it's the same as my iron block 117 engine - you pull
the front timing cover to get to the crank gear. Of course, to pull
the cover, I had to pull the pan and oil pump first.

On 10/4/06, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Peter,
Sounds like a difficult engine to work on -- BTW, when changing from single
row to double row TC, how is the lower sprocket changed?  I assume the crank
must be removed?




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Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] 380 Engine

[LarryT]

Hi Peter,
Sounds like a difficult engine to work on -- BTW, when changing from single 
row to double row TC, how is the lower sprocket changed?  I assume the crank 
must be removed?


The 380SEC is $1100 so the price is right - but the sunroof is missing so 
the interior may be trashed making the whole project suspect - especially if 
the engine needs to be reworked and interior restored.   Oh well, I may call 
the guy  and get a feel for how bad the car is -


Thanks again -

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 380 Engine



That one is problematic -- the single row chain is VERY weak in
comparison to a dual row one, and should really be changed to a dual
row chain if the single one is still there.  Many were swapped early
on, though.

The other "gotcha" is that the block was just drilled and tapped for
the head bolts, and they very often simply remove the threads when the
heads are removed.  Special inserts must be used to repair it (they are
put in at the factory on all later engines), and a special jig is
required as they don't go in at a right angle to the block face.  About
$1500 last time I know anyone checked.

Otherwise it's identical to a 420 for all intents and purposes.  It IS
a hyper-ectotic (or whatever) silicone/aluminum block, meaning the
cylinder bores must be etched if you have to bore it out to remove the
aluminum from the precipitated silicon.  Only a problem if severely
overheated or run out of oil, otherwise the bores are pristine, no
matter what condition the heads are in.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] GP Relay

[LarryT]

Hi Dwight -
It's from the 300D 2.5T

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Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GP Relay



Larry-
Is this on the 240D or  the 300D 2.5 t.?
Dwight

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess
1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess
Wickford, RI



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Subject: [MBZ] GP Relay


Howdy,
   After it refused to work for the little woman twice I decided to
replace
the Glow Plug Relay.  The times if failed to work for her, it was
midnght
and she was trying to leave the hospital to come home.  She tried
cranking
it until I told her to stop - didn;t want to fry the starter.  I was
hoping
it would start on compression without the preglow but no luck.   I
convinced
her to keep trying to turn the key back & forth and finally it started.
She
said the preglow light did not come on - and sure enough eventually, the

light came on, and the engine fired right up.  So, even though she got
it
started and came home (she works 1 hour from home) she's on the verge of

losing confidence in it - so I did a troubleshoot and concluded the
relay
must be bad - wiring is good, GPs are new - so it must be the relay/.




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Re: [MBZ] High perf. intake for 300D

[Levi Smith]

You can get that turbo sound by disconnecting your exhaust after the down
pipe.  Mine broke on the flexible section and it's pretty cool at some slow
speeds where it sounds just like a semi truck with the turbo spooling up and
slowing down.  (:

Levi

On 10/4/06, Stephen D Murrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks guys for your input; when i bought car, it had a good turbo sound;
noticed that someone had used wrong tool to replace air filter & had
PUNCHED holes in it, making the good turbo sound, but ruining air
filtering qualitys, ha! ha!; so will save my money on this setup
probably wanted it for same reason as my European headlights, or just for
looks?
Steve

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Traffic Cams

[Levi Smith]

Ok, I could buy that, but if increasing the yellow light time by a second or
so decreases the accidents, then theoretically they should all be doing that
instead of "we'll leave it at it's short time because we make more money".

Levi

On 10/3/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Levi Smith wrote:
> Car and Driver has had several articles on the cameras over the last
couple
> years.  Almost every time, when they dig into the research, most(not
all) of
> the locations show an INCREASE in the amount of accidents, NOT a
reduction.

Yup.  The counter-argument is that while accidents increase, they switch
from T-bone accidents to less deadly rear-end collisions.  I think the
jury is still out on this one because I have yet to see a report from a
group that didn't have an interest in the outcome.


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Re: [MBZ] Camera proofing your car's license plate

[Levi Smith]

If you're in the middle of the intersection (which I would assume would mean
you were under the traffic light and beyond where you could see the color)
then it could have been yellow when you were looking at it and turned red
after it went out of your vision...

Another thought occurs to me: Are they stupid enough to put them at
intersections where you have to wait for oncoming traffic?  At a busy
intersection you have to pull into the middle to make a left turn under a
green light, but wait until it turns red for the oncoming traffic to stop so
that you can make the left...

Levi

On 10/3/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> You seem to miss the big picture.  These cameras are operated by private
> companies who benifit from you getting a ticking from their camera that
> THEY control.  So those things often will give you a ticket or say you
> ran a light when you really didnt.

Maybe.  In some (most?) jurisdictions the video or picture has to be
reviewed by a police officer before a ticket is issued.  Since the
picture is generally framed to show both the car and the traffic light
this is pretty straightforward.  If the car is in the middle of the
intersection and the light is red, there's not much room to say you're
falsely accused.

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Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes

[David Brodbeck]

Fmiser wrote:
> And in the report I read (about 3-4 years ago) MI had a very large
> percentage of trucks _over_the_federal_limit_, not the state limit. I
> would be curious to see a bit more data than "45% are overweight".
>
> If it _was_ like the report I read, it's sort of like condemning the
> Germans for driving faster than US speed limits on their highways.
>   

Hmm, could be.  I don't think I could find the report again.  It's been
quite a while.

I'm not sure how they'd find out, anyway, for that matter.  I don't
think I ever saw an open weigh station in Michigan.

Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes

[David Brodbeck]

Fmiser wrote:
> Washingto, Idaho, Wyoming, and North Dakoda all have a GVW limit of
> more than 105,000 lb (48,000 kg) and their roads aren't dreadful.

A lot of Washington's are pretty bad, actually, especially in King
County.  They aren't full of chuckholes, like in Michigan, but  there
are many highways here with bad expansion joints, making them really
choppy.  It's almost like the slabs get beaten down in the center and
curl up at the edges.  I once had the misfortune of having to drive a
24' U-Haul on some of those roads, and at 60 mph the expansion joints
would hit a resonant frequency of the suspension and pitch the trunk
violently fore-and-aft.

One thing the roads here have in common with the ones in Michigan is
"tramlining," where the surface gets pushed down where the truck tires
run and humped up in the center.  My Cabriolet, which has a much
narrower track than a truck, squirms around on roads like that because
one pair of wheels is always on the hump in the center.  In rainy
weather the truck ruts sometimes collect puddles and make things a bit
treacherous.

Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that David wrote:

> Fmiser wrote:
> > I can see that the officials don't want the the big trucks to "get
> > in their way"...
> 
> Michigan had the highest
> truck weight limits in the country, but one sampling found that 45%
> of trucks were still over the legal limit.

Michigan doesn't have a weight limit per truck. It is a limit per
axle. That's why a "michican trailer" has dozens of axles! 

And in the report I read (about 3-4 years ago) MI had a very large
percentage of trucks _over_the_federal_limit_, not the state limit. I
would be curious to see a bit more data than "45% are overweight".

If it _was_ like the report I read, it's sort of like condemning the
Germans for driving faster than US speed limits on their highways.

> Tragedy of the commons,
> I guess; the cost of repairing the roads is shared, so there's no
> reason for individual trucks not to abuse them.

Michigan does have bad roads. So does (did - it's been a few years
now...) Arkansas, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Chicago. I believe that
weather and construction methods have as much to do with the rought
roads as the weight of the trucks.

Washingto, Idaho, Wyoming, and North Dakoda all have a GVW limit of
more than 105,000 lb (48,000 kg) and their roads aren't dreadful. Much
of Canada has a GVW limit of more than 60,000 kg (135,000 lb). So if
the Michigan trucks are overweight my MI standards, then the finger
could be pointed to the heavy trucks. Otherwise it appears we have to
look elsewhere for the blame...

--  Philip, "Ya can't call it a rough ride 'till 
ya've tried it in a metal-sprung cabover!"

Re: [MBZ] P/S fluid replacement

[Desert Rat]

The way it was explained to me was that the MB's with a serpentine
belt take the special stuff, otherwise AT fluid in all others.

On 10/3/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yes-
My understanding from Rusty and the good Doktor is that ATF is for the
123's-the Febi/Bilstein is for 124's. Not cheap either.
Dwight

Dwight Giles, Jr
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1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess
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[MBZ] High perf. intake for 300D

[Stephen D Murrell]

Thanks guys for your input; when i bought car, it had a good turbo sound;
noticed that someone had used wrong tool to replace air filter & had
PUNCHED holes in it, making the good turbo sound, but ruining air
filtering qualitys, ha! ha!; so will save my money on this setup
probably wanted it for same reason as my European headlights, or just for
looks?
Steve

Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes

[David Brodbeck]

Zoltan Finks wrote:
> Wow. That's wierd. I've never thought of it that thoroughly, but are you
> saying that slow traffic can cause stopped traffic behind it? This would
> make sense if you figure that as you go back several dozen cars or more,
> there might be speed lost over that number of cars, and eventually the speed
> will be zero? Am I understanding this?
>   

I think the state transition from slow traffic to stop-and-go often has
more to do with lane changes and merges, but traffic flows are really
chaotic...they transition pretty rapidly and suddenly from one state to
another.

If you want to play with your own little traffic system, there's a neat
little simulator here:
http://vwisb7.vkw.tu-dresden.de/~treiber/MicroApplet/

[MBZ] OT: Re: Camera proofing your car's license plate

[ernest breakfield]

Michael,

the only people that have "issues" with privacy as it relates to traffic 
cams are people that don't understand that they aren't in private when they're 
out in the public,... how is that a difficult concept?   ;-P

i can't speak for any state other than CA (and you could check in your own 
state if you really cared), but i know for a fact that here it's illegal to put 
*anything* over your license plate. that has been literally interpreted to mean 
that even license plate frame are prohibited, but includes those covers
that are supposedly to keep your tags clean, as well as those that (are 
supposed to) diffuse the flash from traffic cams.

if you really wanted to go stealth, you could do like the moto-hoodlums 
here; take some Scotchlight material in the color of the lettering on your tags 
and trim it to closely match the letters on your plates; that would reflect the 
flash like the background of the tags does (tag background is white here),
rendering an image of a washed out tag with no lettering visible.
shouldn't be any problem at all for someone who's shown the disregard for 
safety and the intent of the law like you have,...


cheers!
e


Michael wrote:

> Yes, there is that of course.   Maybe or maybe not.
>
> You know, all I wanted to do was give a quick example of a traffic camera 
> problem (the original idea- traffic cameras) and a simple solution.
>
> The way that my wife's ticket totally skipped any resemblance of "due 
> process" floored me.  Once aggravated, I investigated to find that there are 
> privacy issues around traffic cameras as well.
>
> Nobody has yet to mention any state code annotated, anywhere, any state  for 
> making a crime out of using special anti-traffic camera "plates."   Which may 
> or may not compound the "criminal activity."  Maybe or maybe not.  Ohh- 
> that's illegal- probably?  What a joke!  Show me, then I'll worry about it 
> later.
>
> -El bandito del Savannah traffic cameras (Michael)
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Oct 3, 2006 1:07 PM
> >To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Camera proofing your car's license plate
> >
> >Michael wrote:
> >> It is extremely normal and legal in Savannah traffic to conduct U turns up 
> >> and down the entire length of the Abercorn highway.
> >
> >I don't think anyone is arguing that making a U-turn is illegal.  It
> >seems likely that making a U-turn against a red light is, however.

Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes

[Zoltan Finks]

Wow. That's wierd. I've never thought of it that thoroughly, but are you
saying that slow traffic can cause stopped traffic behind it? This would
make sense if you figure that as you go back several dozen cars or more,
there might be speed lost over that number of cars, and eventually the speed
will be zero? Am I understanding this?

By the way, I was trying to be funny earlier with the Oprah comment. But
they did say it on today's show (as I flipped past of course).

Brian

David wrote:

I think that's mostly it.  It really backs up traffic when you have
trucks taking up all available lanes to slowly pass each other on an
uphill grade.  In heavy traffic this can actually catalyze the formation
of a little standing wave of stop-and-go traffic.  This happens a lot on
uphill stretches of I-5.

[MBZ] FOR SALE: CrossBars for W124 Wagons

[Walt Lasher]

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holding
> cargo on the top).  She sold the wagon a year ago.
> These are NEW and still in the sealed Mercedes packaging.
> In checking with the Local MB Dealer was told they sold for $300 EACH
(ouch)
> and they are no longer in production.
> The stock # is 124 840 0218
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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust

[mark maturo]

The parts are genuine and the price is good so I will go with you Rusty after I 
determine if I'm buying both pieces or not.  The center muffler rotted at the 
weld points going in and out of the muffler and at the flange weld where it 
connects to the front pipe.  The rear muffler rusted at all the weld points for 
the brackets but the muffler itself only has surface rust.  I want to prop the 
muffler up to the front pipe flange and attach it with a $1.99 adapter to hear 
what the car sounds like without the center muffler.  This will determine 
whether I purchase the rear muffler with or without the center muffler.  Might 
not get to it until the weekend.  Prices good until next week?
   
  Thanks

"Potter, Tom E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  The muffler shop replaced the rear muffler on my 380SE for $65. I'm sure
it was not GENUINE Mercedes, but it seemed to hold up OK.

Tom Potter

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My friend told me Adist had the Center and Rear mufflers for around 600.
When I looked it up the exact price would be $655. I checked with
Timevalve in CT mentioned in Peter Frederick's post.. they said 635.00
for the two mufflers. Can you get them for less? I didn't see anything
on the website.

Rusty wrote: Mark, that is a great price. Who
gave you that quote?

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Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust

My exhaust is rotting on my 1991 350SD. Priced the center and rear
muffler and comes to around $600. Does anyone know if the center
muffler can be eliminated. Is it for noise or emissions? 

Thanks 

Mark Maturo
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Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes

[David Brodbeck]

Fmiser wrote:
> I can see that the officials don't want the the big trucks to "get in
> their way"...

I think that's mostly it.  It really backs up traffic when you have
trucks taking up all available lanes to slowly pass each other on an
uphill grade.  In heavy traffic this can actually catalyze the formation
of a little standing wave of stop-and-go traffic.  This happens a lot on
uphill stretches of I-5.

In Michigan the truckers also hated to drive in the right lane because
it was really rough.  Of course, it was rough because it had been
pounded to bits by overweight trucks.  Michigan had the highest truck
weight limits in the country, but one sampling found that 45% of trucks
were still over the legal limit.  Tragedy of the commons, I guess; the
cost of repairing the roads is shared, so there's no reason for
individual trucks not to abuse them.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Traffic Cams

[David Brodbeck]

Levi Smith wrote:
> Car and Driver has had several articles on the cameras over the last couple
> years.  Almost every time, when they dig into the research, most(not all) of
> the locations show an INCREASE in the amount of accidents, NOT a reduction.

Yup.  The counter-argument is that while accidents increase, they switch
from T-bone accidents to less deadly rear-end collisions.  I think the
jury is still out on this one because I have yet to see a report from a
group that didn't have an interest in the outcome.

Re: [MBZ] Camera proofing your car's license plate

[David Brodbeck]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> You seem to miss the big picture.  These cameras are operated by private 
> companies who benifit from you getting a ticking from their camera that 
> THEY control.  So those things often will give you a ticket or say you 
> ran a light when you really didnt.

Maybe.  In some (most?) jurisdictions the video or picture has to be
reviewed by a police officer before a ticket is issued.  Since the
picture is generally framed to show both the car and the traffic light
this is pretty straightforward.  If the car is in the middle of the
intersection and the light is red, there's not much room to say you're
falsely accused.

Re: [MBZ] 380 Engine

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yes, it will have the single chain unless already converted.

LarryT wrote:


Howdy -
Does the 82 380 engine have the cam sprocket problem (single row Vs double 
row)  discussed here ocassionally?  There's one in the local paper - a 
380SEC for $1100 - complete but missing the sunroof (hopefully is protected 
from rain) that seems like  good deal -  if it;s not to bad.  I need to know 
what to expect of the engine - although I wouldn;t mind rebuilding it.\\\


I love the body style but don't really need more projects -

TIA -

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Re: [MBZ] Camera proofing your car's license plate

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

You seem to miss the big picture.  These cameras are operated by private 
companies who benifit from you getting a ticking from their camera that 
THEY control.  So those things often will give you a ticket or say you 
ran a light when you really didnt.


Curt Raymond wrote:


Conjecture? How is "My wife pulled a U turn right in front of one while the light 
was red." conjecture? Didn't you just say she ran a red light? Isn't that illegal?
If its illegal and you get caught you should be punished. If you get a ticket 
for doing something illegal and you decide to ignore it they should take you 
license away. Thats what they'll do here. A guy I used to work with had a stack 
of unpaid parking tickets and they took away his license. One day he got pulled 
over for something stupid like a taillight out and they took him to jail...

Now if you want to fight the camera as impinging your "privacy" whats that 
mean? You want the right to run red lights with impunity? Your right to break the law has 
been violated?

Somehow that doesn't make much sense to me and I'm fairly liberal...

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] 380 Engine

[Jim Cathey]

Does the 82 380 engine have the cam sprocket problem (single row Vs 
double

row)  discussed here occasionally?


Yes.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Camera proofing your car's license plate

[Jim Cathey]

But even were u turns legal I would still think a u turn against a 
light is going against a light anyway...


Here in WA, you may make a left onto a one-way against the red.
That ought to generalize to a U-turn as well.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] GP Relay

[Jim Cathey]

Is there any use for the old GP relay?  Guess I'll save it as a spare 
;-)


They are subject to the same solder failures as all the other
vintage MB electronics, and can often be brought back to life
by resoldering.  And unlike cruise controls and ACC systems,
they're not that complicated inside.  An excellent DIY beginning
project.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] P/S fluid replacement

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Yes-
My understanding from Rusty and the good Doktor is that ATF is for the
123's-the Febi/Bilstein is for 124's. Not cheap either.
Dwight

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess
1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess
Wickford, RI




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] P/S fluid replacement


Before the good Doctor left us he said the OEM stuff Rusty (and MB)
sells is 
preferable for the newer MBs.
He said <>

Re: [MBZ] GP Relay

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Larry-
Is this on the 240D or  the 300D 2.5 t.?
Dwight

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess
1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess
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Subject: [MBZ] GP Relay


Howdy,
After it refused to work for the little woman twice I decided to
replace 
the Glow Plug Relay.  The times if failed to work for her, it was
midnght 
and she was trying to leave the hospital to come home.  She tried
cranking 
it until I told her to stop - didn;t want to fry the starter.  I was
hoping 
it would start on compression without the preglow but no luck.   I
convinced 
her to keep trying to turn the key back & forth and finally it started.
She 
said the preglow light did not come on - and sure enough eventually, the

light came on, and the engine fired right up.  So, even though she got
it 
started and came home (she works 1 hour from home) she's on the verge of

losing confidence in it - so I did a troubleshoot and concluded the
relay 
must be bad - wiring is good, GPs are new - so it must be the relay/.

  

Re: [MBZ] P/S fluid replacement

[Hendrik Riessen]

So is that why MB sells a special PS fluid?
You'll probably find that the price of proper MB PS(bought aftermarket) 
fluid is similar to M1 ATF.


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Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] P/S fluid replacement



M-1 ATF makes for a very good PS fluid...




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Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] P/S fluid replacement



The Maintanence manual tells how to check the level but does not say when
to
replace the fluid.  I usually look at the color and condition - the MB 
OEM

fluid (buy it from Rusty)  is pretty clear and the color of fresh,
light-weight oil - kind of a light golden color.  If the car is more than
10
years old and there's no indication it'd been changed, I'd go ahead &
change
the fluid & filter.  It's pretty inexpensive maintanence - and if it
extends
the life of the steering system it's always a good idea.

Good luck!!.

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- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:35 PM
Subject: [MBZ] P/S fluid replacement



How often is a fluid and filter change recommended for a power steering
system.
mak


- ?



Fluid, filter and hoses if they are starting to leak.

- Original Message - 
From: "RICHARD FIne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:16 AM
Subject: [MBZ] ordered steering gear box,thinking to replace
left/center/right tie rod assemblies...anything else?



My gear box started to leak, so I ordered a replacement.. I got the
thinking that my steering was a little peculiar just before the gear
box
started leaking... so I am thinking of replacing the left/center/right
tie
rod assemblies.. anything else I should think about replacing with
this?

Thanks...

Richard Fine

1987 300D turbo
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Re: [MBZ] 380 Engine

[OK Don]

Sounds like a good candidate for a 603 engine!

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Submerged Maritime Heritage Resource USS Macon

[Peter Frederick]

Naturally it had Maybachs, it was a Zeppelin aquired as war reparations.

Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT: Submerged Maritime Heritage Resource USS Macon

[Peter Frederick]

The engine is probably bigger than the car!

Peter


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