Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
Sorry about the incorrect time. I modified the T-stat by bending about 1/2 of the radiator flap up and creating a gap for constant flow. I ran it on just water to check for leaks at the t-stat and other hoses, then I dumped a bottle of Prestone flush in and drove it around the neighborhood in 2nd for about 5 minutes...2 different times. 5 minutes is about how long it takes to hit 100-110C. After the first trip, the radiator was still cold but the bottom hose was slightly warmer. After the 2nd trip around, the bottom hose was actually warm to touch, but the center of the radaitor was still coldgrrr. But, I take this to show that the water pump is making an effort, even with resistance, to move coolant through the system. Maybe with time and several more trips with the flush, it'll open the radaitor up. I'm fairly certain the head is cracked or at least the gasket is blown. With the pressure cap off and the engine idling you can see a constant wisp of vapor coming out. With the cap on, it doesn't take long to build enough pressure to cause the cap to release some of it, and that's a continual cycle. Sound right? On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:19:48 -0600, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday and today I've worked on the SDL trying to figure out why it is overheating. Yesterday, I first checked to see if the fan clutch was engaging, it's not.well, the radiator isn't hot enough to cause the clutch to engage. Lower hose is cool to the touch, top is HOT. I am also not getting very much heat in the cab when I select defrost and MAX temp. Hrm, so I drained all of the coolant and started pulling some of the system apart and noticed this red, gritty grime coating the inside of EVERYTHING. Hrm, wonder if the PPO (previous-previous owner before Kaleb) tried some of that block/head/radiator sealer? I have modified the old thermostat to be mostly open all the time. Could the cold bottom/hot top problem be a bad water pump and how would I check that? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
Do you still have the silicone oil? I might take a shipment of that On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:36:58 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the radiator isn't hot enough to cause the clutch to engage. Lower hose is cool to the touch, top is HOT. I am also not getting very much heat in the Your radiator is clogged, perhaps also the heater core. First step would be to flush the system, then try an acid flush. But be prepared to have to replace things like heater core, radiator, and monovalve insert if they indeed did use clog-o-matic on it. So sorry for you. See: http://cathey.dogear.com/SDLcool.html -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
why do it the hard way? Take the radiator out, and let a radiator shop clean it and verify good flow. I suspect that your t-stat mod might be causing more problem than help, if it can't close the bypass port (don't know whether the bent part prevents that or not). On 10/29/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry about the incorrect time. I modified the T-stat by bending about 1/2 of the radiator flap up and creating a gap for constant flow. I ran it on just water to check for leaks at the t-stat and other hoses, then I dumped a bottle of Prestone flush in and drove it around the neighborhood in 2nd for about 5 minutes...2 different times. 5 minutes is about how long it takes to hit 100-110C. After the first trip, the radiator was still cold but the bottom hose was slightly warmer. After the 2nd trip around, the bottom hose was actually warm to touch, but the center of the radaitor was still coldgrrr. But, I take this to show that the water pump is making an effort, even with resistance, to move coolant through the system. Maybe with time and several more trips with the flush, it'll open the radaitor up. I'm fairly certain the head is cracked or at least the gasket is blown. With the pressure cap off and the engine idling you can see a constant wisp of vapor coming out. With the cap on, it doesn't take long to build enough pressure to cause the cap to release some of it, and that's a continual cycle. Sound right? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] Radiator flushing
Seems to be the project of the day ... Anyway, I've set about to use the 5 pounds of citric acid I purchase awhile back and have been de-oiling and descaling the cooling system of our 617.912 W123. Yesterday, I drained the antifreeze, put in an ond thermostat that didn't close entirely and filled with water and two cups of Cascasde dishwasher detergent. By blocking the radiator with cardboard, I was able to bring the temp up to 100 C, let it run awhile -- noticing the flow through the fill -- and drain. Repeated with clean water to get the detergent out. Today, I put in 4.5 cups (at 120 g/cup) of citric acid and water and ran it. I found out that citric acid kills thermostats, because it did NOT open and I did not see coolant flow throught the fill. Hmmm ... So I went to force the thermostat permanently open, ala Jim Cathey and his .38 cartridge brass, but I didn't have any cartridge brass. I then reread the first couple of paragraphs of the de-oiling and descaling procedure in the engine manual. Guess what: It says to REMOVE the thermostat. I looked in vain for the section that lists the shop made tool of a forced-open thermostat I know I've seen somewhere. I couldn't find it. So, in order to turn the car around, I put the thermostat housing back on without the thermostat (but with the gasket). Guess what: There IS coolant flow through the radiator with the thermostat removed. Almost as much as when I had the thermostat in yesterday. And certainly a whole bunch more than with the dead thermostat in place. So, the conventional wisdom seems to have been thrown out the window. I was really suprised to read the engine manual saying to REMOVE the thermostat, but I'll still try to generate a forced-open thermostat. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Radiator flushing
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:02:42 -0700 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, I put in 4.5 cups (at 120 g/cup) of citric acid Oops. Make that 120 g/one-half cup (240 g/cup). Craig
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
Not everyone has $'s like you :) I'm thinking of making an adapter so I can apply regulated air pressure to the radiator and blow the clogged stuff out. Our water here doesn't have very high pressure.something about being rural and on top of a hill. On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:56:32 -0600, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why do it the hard way? Take the radiator out, and let a radiator shop clean it and verify good flow. I suspect that your t-stat mod might be causing more problem than help, if it can't close the bypass port (don't know whether the bent part prevents that or not). On 10/29/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry about the incorrect time. I modified the T-stat by bending about 1/2 of the radiator flap up and creating a gap for constant flow. I ran it on just water to check for leaks at the t-stat and other hoses, then I dumped a bottle of Prestone flush in and drove it around the neighborhood in 2nd for about 5 minutes...2 different times. 5 minutes is about how long it takes to hit 100-110C. After the first trip, the radiator was still cold but the bottom hose was slightly warmer. After the 2nd trip around, the bottom hose was actually warm to touch, but the center of the radaitor was still coldgrrr. But, I take this to show that the water pump is making an effort, even with resistance, to move coolant through the system. Maybe with time and several more trips with the flush, it'll open the radaitor up. I'm fairly certain the head is cracked or at least the gasket is blown. With the pressure cap off and the engine idling you can see a constant wisp of vapor coming out. With the cap on, it doesn't take long to build enough pressure to cause the cap to release some of it, and that's a continual cycle. Sound right? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
Re: [MBZ] Radiator flushing
Well - it's not the first time that conventional wisdom has been shown to be wrong --- Thanks for the information! FWIW - I just looked up the coolant system cleaning instructions for 117, 617, and 603 engines - all in the 20-015 section of the CD. Only the 603 calls for the special tool to replace the t-stat during the procedure. Both the 117 and 617 instructions only require that you remove the t-stat, replace the housing, and get to work. So, the conventional wisdom seems to have been thrown out the window. I was really suprised to read the engine manual saying to REMOVE the thermostat, but I'll still try to generate a forced-open thermostat. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
How are you filling it? Are you pumping the upper rad hose and crimping the small line to the reservoir? If not, you only have about a gallon in a two gallon system and it's gonna run hot! To purge, squeeze the upper radiator hose flat, then crimp the small line to the reservoir, then let the upper hose go. Coolant will be pulled out of the reservoir into the block. Repeat, adding coolant or flush, whatever, until the level goes up and down but the tank stays at least half full. If the center of the rad stays cold, it's radiator time. Cheaper than a blown engine. Get a new T-stat too, they are cheap. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Radiator flushing
Decalcification calls for 100grams per liter - 100 grams is 3.5 oz. (dry). A liter is approx. a quart. So, for 2 gallons of citric acid solution, I'd dissolve 2 pounds of citric acid in 2 gallons. It should be close enough. On 10/29/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:02:42 -0700 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, I put in 4.5 cups (at 120 g/cup) of citric acid Oops. Make that 120 g/one-half cup (240 g/cup). -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
I fill in the top radiator hose until it trickles out the radiator neck. I also have a Prestone flush tee installed where the block2heater core line is by the oil filter. I've run the car with the water hose attached there to flush the system before adding the flush. On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:18:18 -0600, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are you filling it? Are you pumping the upper rad hose and crimping the small line to the reservoir? If not, you only have about a gallon in a two gallon system and it's gonna run hot! To purge, squeeze the upper radiator hose flat, then crimp the small line to the reservoir, then let the upper hose go. Coolant will be pulled out of the reservoir into the block. Repeat, adding coolant or flush, whatever, until the level goes up and down but the tank stays at least half full. If the center of the rad stays cold, it's radiator time. Cheaper than a blown engine. Get a new T-stat too, they are cheap. Peter -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
Re: [MBZ] Radiator flushing
what about liquid citric acid?? On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:32:00 -0600, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Decalcification calls for 100grams per liter - 100 grams is 3.5 oz. (dry). A liter is approx. a quart. So, for 2 gallons of citric acid solution, I'd dissolve 2 pounds of citric acid in 2 gallons. It should be close enough. On 10/29/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:02:42 -0700 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, I put in 4.5 cups (at 120 g/cup) of citric acid Oops. Make that 120 g/one-half cup (240 g/cup). -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
Well, it did cost $55.00 to have the 107 radiator cleaned last time -- but that was small change compared to the rest of the engine rebuilding project, and cheap insurance. I have adopted the fill from the upper radiator hose process, and it has resulted in fewer troublesome bubbles to burp. I like Peter's suggestion to pump the hose with the small hose clamped - I'll do that also next time. On 10/29/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not everyone has $'s like you :) I'm thinking of making an adapter so I can apply regulated air pressure to the radiator and blow the clogged stuff out. Our water here doesn't have very high pressure.something about being rural and on top of a hill. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Radiator flushing
You want a 10% solution (100 grams acid to 1000 grams (1 liter) water)-- read the label, find out what you have, and dilute to a resulting 10%. I've never run across liquid citric acid, except as a component in commercial cleaning solutions. I buy the solid citric acid in 10 lb. buckets from http://www.chemistrystore.com/ . Certainly not the least expensive after you add in the shipping, but the easiest. On 10/29/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about liquid citric acid?? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
Luther, won't work. The crud clogging the rad is aluminum phosphate corrosion, most likely (unless you are really lucky and it's only carbonate and will clean out LONG soaking in citric acid). Aluminum phosphate deposits are pretty much impossible to remove when accessable, let along inside the rad tubes. On top of that, if you DO clean then out, it's almost a certainty that the rad will leak shortly. Get a new one, you will eventually crack the head if you don't and that's MUCH more bother and expense. Peter
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
Do the hose shuffle to be sure. Peter
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
Crack the head? I'm fairly certain that's already done due to the vapor that is constantly flowing from an open pressure cap. On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:48:14 -0600, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther, won't work. The crud clogging the rad is aluminum phosphate corrosion, most likely (unless you are really lucky and it's only carbonate and will clean out LONG soaking in citric acid). Aluminum phosphate deposits are pretty much impossible to remove when accessable, let along inside the rad tubes. On top of that, if you DO clean then out, it's almost a certainty that the rad will leak shortly. Get a new one, you will eventually crack the head if you don't and that's MUCH more bother and expense. Peter -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
Re: [MBZ] Radiator flushing
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:32:00 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Decalcification calls for 100grams per liter - 100 grams is 3.5 oz. (dry). A liter is approx. a quart. So, for 2 gallons of citric acid solution, I'd dissolve 2 pounds of citric acid in 2 gallons. It should be close enough. I happened to have a half-cup measure at hand as well as a gram scale, so I weighed a half-cup of the powder = 120 grams. Nine half-cups gives 1080 g, which is quite close to the 1100 grams my 11 liter cooling system would take. Now everyone else knows a half-cup of citric acid is 120 grams and can scoop out accordingly. Craig
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
Serious underfilling will also give you steam, since the head isn't full yet -- a much better situation. Pressure cold is a better indication of cracks in the head. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Radiator flushing
Great! I was going to do that -- you beat me to it. Nine half-cups gives 1080 g, which is quite close to the 1100 grams my 11 liter cooling system would take. Now everyone else knows a half-cup of citric acid is 120 grams and can scoop out accordingly. Craig -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
it's deffinately NOT steam, to light and wispy for steam. On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:06:37 -0600, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Serious underfilling will also give you steam, since the head isn't full yet -- a much better situation. Pressure cold is a better indication of cracks in the head. Peter -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
Re: [MBZ] 240D glow plug conversion
Jim Cathey said: Thanks for the advice. I have a friend making me some suitable plug to plug cables since I don't have a good crimp tool. The plugs are on the way from Rusty. I still may attempt to use 4 of the 5 spots on my 300D glow plug relay at some point in the future, but there would be that issue of it not seeing what it wants from the missing glow plug which would probably cause the glow plug light on the dash to do funny things.. Eh? You're not planning to use that relay and wire the whole string to only one pin? That won't work, those pins aren't rated for the full current. Individually, that is. And yes, the light won't work right. Changing it to a four-banger also would not be easy, as the current sensing works via balanced windings working against a reed switch. You'd have to rewind the heavy wire coil around there to compensate, and I'm not sure you can do this without ruining it. If you open the relay all should become clear with a bit of studying. (Though come to think of it the 5-cylinder version has a weird 'bolt-on' arrangement for handling #5, so maybe it could be converted after all. More study would be req'd.) Did the glowplug conversion with the new pencil style parallel plugs on Saturday. As expected it made a huge difference for starting the car. The friend who made up the wires for me and I got to talking as he's pretty savvy electrically. I was explaining my curiousity about using the 5 cylinder glowplug relay and timer and he suggested a novel idea. His thought on how to connect it was to just take the 5th wire and connect it to one of the other 4 plugs so that one plug would have 2 wires going to it. This way the comparison circuit would be fooled into seeing the same value on all 5 lines. I asked about the downside to having 2 wires to one plug (I was concerned about it wearing out faster) and he reminded me that the current flow is controlled by the resistor in the circuit, not by the amount of wire or gauge supplying it. Thoughts? ...Kevin 87 300TD 282k mi 79 240D 157k mi
Re: [MBZ] 240D glow plug conversion
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:02:04 -0500 (EST) Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked about the downside to having 2 wires to one plug (I was concerned about it wearing out faster) and he reminded me that the current flow is controlled by the resistor in the circuit, not by the amount of wire or gauge supplying it. Thoughts? Given that the resistance of the plug (about 1 ohm hot) is much more than the resistance of the wiring, his statement is correct. In actuality, the plug with the two wires will be getting slightly higher voltage than the others -- if all the wires are the same length. If the lengths are very much different, it's up for grabs what the effect will be. Don't loose sleep over it. Craig
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
Do you still have the silicone oil? I might take a shipment of that I parceled it all out, and only have the same amount left as I shipped to each customer. In other words, I still have my share, which is enough to fool with many clutches. Given my collection of aging beasts, I think I'd better hang on to what I have left. It's not hard to come by, but you have to buy a gallon of it and shipping just about doubles the price. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Radiator flushing
component in commercial cleaning solutions. I buy the solid citric acid in 10 lb. buckets from http://www.chemistrystore.com/ . Certainly not the least expensive after you add in the shipping, but the easiest. I bought mine at a local (commercial) baking supply store. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 240D glow plug conversion
His thought on how to connect it was to just take the 5th wire and connect it to one of the other 4 plugs so that one plug would have 2 wires going to it. This way the comparison circuit would be fooled into seeing the same value on all 5 lines. Won't work, IMHO. The comparison circuit is looking for, let us say, 15A on #1, and 60A on the others. Hooking two plug wires in parallel is not going to cause it to draw an additional 15A to make the current balance transformer happy! This thing is measuring current, not voltage. The one 5-cyl GP relay I opened is trickier than that, in that #5 has a separate measurement circuit, bolted onto the side of the old 4-cylinder design, so it might be possible that the idea could work there in some form. But I don't know if they're all built that way, and in general it could not work as intended. -- Jim
[MBZ] 300 SEL questions
Listers, My brother is looking at some 88-89 300SEL's. Any flags or common recurring problems? Overall judgment of the model? TIA Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess 1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SEL questions
Personally I would go with the 420SEL or 560SEL, the 300's are just too underpowered and the 420SEL will give more power and same mileage. Other than that there have been several posts about common problems with the W126, as such I will not list here. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:42 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] 300 SEL questions Listers, My brother is looking at some 88-89 300SEL's. Any flags or common recurring problems? Overall judgment of the model? TIA Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess 1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
When you order new radiator, make sure that it has reinforced upper radiator hose neck. The cheap one from Rusty that I got for my gasser W126 was not reinforced. I would have gotten more expensive one if I knew that cheap one was not reinforced. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 10:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL it's deffinately NOT steam, to light and wispy for steam. On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:06:37 -0600, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Serious underfilling will also give you steam, since the head isn't full yet -- a much better situation. Pressure cold is a better indication of cracks in the head. Peter -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Next issue to sort out on rescued 79 240D
So I was driving the 240D the other night and needed to turn on the defroster (it has manual controls) and I detected the sweet smell of coolant. I can't recall, but I seem to remember that the heater core for W123's is in a bad place, a place that's really hard to get to. The coolant level hasn't plummeted since we've been driving the car so I'm guessing the leak is small / minor. So the question is, what to do? Do I try a stop leak product? If so, which one is likely to give the best results? (Knowing that no stop leak product is the best choice.) Or is the RR not as bad as I've been lead to believe? ...Kevin 87 300TD 282k mi 79 240D 157k mi
Re: [MBZ] Radiator flushing
Conventional wisdom is true on this one but its still odd... When the coolant is cold the car will be okay with no thermostat. Once its warmed up it'll over heat just like a stuck thermostat. Wierd but true. -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:02:42 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Radiator flushing To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Seems to be the project of the day ... Anyway, I've set about to use the 5 pounds of citric acid I purchase awhile back and have been de-oiling and descaling the cooling system of our 617.912 W123. Yesterday, I drained the antifreeze, put in an ond thermostat that didn't close entirely and filled with water and two cups of Cascasde dishwasher detergent. By blocking the radiator with cardboard, I was able to bring the temp up to 100 C, let it run awhile -- noticing the flow through the fill -- and drain. Repeated with clean water to get the detergent out. Today, I put in 4.5 cups (at 120 g/cup) of citric acid and water and ran it. I found out that citric acid kills thermostats, because it did NOT open and I did not see coolant flow throught the fill. Hmmm ... So I went to force the thermostat permanently open, ala Jim Cathey and his .38 cartridge brass, but I didn't have any cartridge brass. I then reread the first couple of paragraphs of the de-oiling and descaling procedure in the engine manual. Guess what: It says to REMOVE the thermostat. I looked in vain for the section that lists the shop made tool of a forced-open thermostat I know I've seen somewhere. I couldn't find it. So, in order to turn the car around, I put the thermostat housing back on without the thermostat (but with the gasket). Guess what: There IS coolant flow through the radiator with the thermostat removed. Almost as much as when I had the thermostat in yesterday. And certainly a whole bunch more than with the dead thermostat in place. So, the conventional wisdom seems to have been thrown out the window. I was really suprised to read the engine manual saying to REMOVE the thermostat, but I'll still try to generate a forced-open thermostat. Craig - Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 30 14:13:41 2006 Received: from postal.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.12] helo=windwireless.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GeXtV-0003AX-5n for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:13:41 + Received: from windwireless.net (unverified [206.63.94.197]) by windwireless.net (WindPostal) with ESMTP id 388306 for multiple; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:17:26 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:13:38 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-412260344 X-Info: aspam skipped due to (g_smite_skip) X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 34, in=195, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 206.63.94.197 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Next issue to sort out on rescued 79 240D X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:13:41 - So I was driving the 240D the other night and needed to turn on the defroster (it has manual controls) and I detected the sweet smell of coolant. I can't recall, but I seem to remember that the heater core for W123's is in a bad place, a place that's really hard to get to. The coolant level hasn't plummeted since we've been driving the car so I'm guessing the leak is small / minor. Sometimes you get lucky, and the leak is at the hose connections to the core. On some models gravity works to siphon small leaks inside where they can drip into the works. I don't know if the 123 is built this way, however. Worth looking on the firewall to see if there are any leaks there where the rubber meets the hard lines coming through the firewall. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 300 SEL questions
OK-thanks. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trampas Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:34 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SEL questions Personally I would go with the 420SEL or 560SEL, the 300's are just too underpowered and the 420SEL will give more power and same mileage. Other than that there have been several posts about common problems with the W126, as such I will not list here. Trampas
Re: [MBZ] Partly OT - cold air into exhaust
Let's all vote Larry T for Jaloponist of the Year with that amazingly cost-effective solution. On 10/28/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Larry. I'll consider the liquid nails next. Brian On 10/28/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if this will work in your application, but my rear resonator/muffler/whatever it;s called had some pin holes in the leading surface area - not wanting to spend the $300+ for a new one I tried Liquid Nails Project Adhesive. It comes out of the tube (like a caulk tube) and I spread it and forced it into the holes. Once it dried (about 2 hours IIRC) I started it (my 91 300D) up and let the resonator get good and warm - the Liquid Nails has set up hard as concrete and after 3 months is still working fine. This is the car my wife drives to work - ~110 mi RT. While it's drying I would not recommend starting the engine until its had time to set up completely. When it is no longer dented by a finger nail, it's dry. A tube of Liquid Nails is ~$5 at W'mart or Home Depot, or lowes. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Partly OT - cold air into exhaust Ahhh BTDT. Rather than JB Weld get a soup can (or green beans or whatever you have) and some hose clamps. Cheaper (especially if you can get free hose clamps at the wreckers) and easier... -Curt - Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.16/504 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:44:06 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you still have the silicone oil? I might take a shipment of that It's not hard to come by, but you have to buy a gallon of it and shipping just about doubles the price. So, where does one come by it? And for what, exactly, is one looking? Craig
[MBZ] FW: Ultra Low sulfur Diesel
At the risk of starting another fuel thread, I wanted to know more about the ULSD. I fueled up the 300D 2.5t Friday ($2.59/gal) and noticed that the Shell station now has the new ultra low # 2. Inside the station, they had a Shell pamphlet of Q A about ULSD-much of what has been covered on this list. But there was a caveat about using it in pre 2007 diesel engines mentioning premature fuel leakage, filter failure, etc, etc. (I don't have the exact quotes as my dog ate the brochure. ) So my question is-is this just lawyer talk to cover themselves, or should I start to worry-esp. about the leaks. And, if I should star to monitor this, should I worry more about the 240D than the 300D? Any references or studies would be appreciated. Thanks, Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess 1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess Wickford, RI
Re: [MBZ] Partly OT - cold air into exhaust
Hear! Hear! I cast my vote for Larry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Partly OT - cold air into exhaust Let's all vote Larry T for Jaloponist of the Year with that amazingly cost-effective solution. On 10/28/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Larry. I'll consider the liquid nails next. Brian On 10/28/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if this will work in your application, but my rear resonator/muffler/whatever it;s called had some pin holes in the leading surface area - not wanting to spend the $300+ for a new one I tried Liquid Nails Project Adhesive. It comes out of the tube (like a caulk tube) and I spread it and forced it into the holes. Once it dried (about 2 hours IIRC) I started it (my 91 300D) up and let the resonator get good and warm - the Liquid Nails has set up hard as concrete and after 3 months is still working fine. This is the car my wife drives to work - ~110 mi RT. While it's drying I would not recommend starting the engine until its had time to set up completely. When it is no longer dented by a finger nail, it's dry. A tube of Liquid Nails is ~$5 at W'mart or Home Depot, or lowes. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Partly OT - cold air into exhaust Ahhh BTDT. Rather than JB Weld get a soup can (or green beans or whatever you have) and some hose clamps. Cheaper (especially if you can get free hose clamps at the wreckers) and easier... -Curt - Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.16/504 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: Ultra Low sulfur Diesel
The people that pay for the studies will never let us look at them. They will only release partial, if any, info as it fits their needs. BP switched over to ULSD many months ago without telling anyone. I went to a BP reunion last month and heard that there were in fact some issues. BP ended up paying for repairs on a number of vehicles that were damaged by the initial release of the fuel. No doubt, a number of failures were never linked to BP - fancy that. The additive package has since been modified and complaints died down. -Dave Walton On 10/30/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the risk of starting another fuel thread, I wanted to know more about the ULSD. I fueled up the 300D 2.5t Friday ($2.59/gal) and noticed that the Shell station now has the new ultra low # 2. Inside the station, they had a Shell pamphlet of Q A about ULSD-much of what has been covered on this list. But there was a caveat about using it in pre 2007 diesel engines mentioning premature fuel leakage, filter failure, etc, etc. (I don't have the exact quotes as my dog ate the brochure. ) So my question is-is this just lawyer talk to cover themselves, or should I start to worry-esp. about the leaks. And, if I should star to monitor this, should I worry more about the 240D than the 300D? Any references or studies would be appreciated. Thanks, Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess 1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Partly OT - cold air into exhaust
Shouldn't you first ask for submissions of the most jalopical improvements to Mercedes and then take a vote? I've heard descriptions of some on this group which would make any innovative mechanic proud. Larry Ts Liquid Nails project will no doubt be among the top contenders because of its simplicity and the use of those ancient standbys of carpentry; liquid though they may be. Gerry - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's all vote Larry T for Jaloponist of the Year with that amazingly cost-effective solution. On 10/28/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Larry. I'll consider the liquid nails next. Brian On 10/28/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if this will work in your application, but my rear resonator/muffler/whatever it;s called had some pin holes in the leading surface area - not wanting to spend the $300+ for a new one I tried Liquid Nails Project Adhesive. It comes out of the tube (like a caulk tube) and I spread it and forced it into the holes. Once it dried (about 2 hours IIRC) I started it (my 91 300D) up and let the resonator get good and warm - the Liquid Nails has set up hard as concrete and after 3 months is still working fine. This is the car my wife drives to work - ~110 mi RT. While it's drying I would not recommend starting the engine until its had time to set up completely. When it is no longer dented by a finger nail, it's dry. A tube of Liquid Nails is ~$5 at W'mart or Home Depot, or lowes. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Partly OT - cold air into exhaust Ahhh BTDT. Rather than JB Weld get a soup can (or green beans or whatever you have) and some hose clamps. Cheaper (especially if you can get free hose clamps at the wreckers) and easier... -Curt - Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.16/504 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006
Re: [MBZ] FW: Ultra Low sulfur Diesel
It is my understanding is that it is mostly lawyer talk to cover themselves in the case of problems or even PERCEIVED problems that a switch to ULSD would cause during the US switch. This is based on a similiar experiance with a switch in Europe. At first, the techniques which had been used to remove the sulfer were also removing or modifying lubricty agents in the fuel - this problem was promptly discovered, and has been solved for quite some time. All ULSD will have the same or better lubricity as current #2, without the addition of any type of fuel modifiers on the part of the owners. There is literature out there though that claims that ULSD DOES in fact require lubricity additives; I believe the information they quote is outdated. It was the industries experiance, however, that they reicieved alot of compliants from owners of older cars, would blame ANY type of problem on the fuel, MOST of which were unfounded. These types of statements can only be made retrospectively though, since now there are very little problems reported by European owners of olders cars. However, a large portion of older cars have fuel lines thats are know to go bad otherwise. I can only imagine the number of complaints from 98-99 E300D owners regarding fuel leaks from using ULSD that will popping up on the various MB lists. The thing is, those cars are known for having weak plastic fuel lines - on cars that still have the originals, at 7-8 years, its probably the end of their useful life anyways! So the companies selling ULSD put out literature that protects them from people blaming their fuel for any and all related fuel problems. Printing even a couple million packets is alot cheaper than even paying a hundred claims or getting involved it 10 lawsuits. So just put the fuel in the cars, and when you have a fuel problem, consider how old your car and its fuel lines are before rushing to judgement on ULSD. Please note I havn't thouroughly checked all the facts on the issue, and would welcome constructive criticisism if any of my statements contain questionable facts. Mike On 10/30/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the risk of starting another fuel thread, I wanted to know more about the ULSD. I fueled up the 300D 2.5t Friday ($2.59/gal) and noticed that the Shell station now has the new ultra low # 2. Inside the station, they had a Shell pamphlet of Q A about ULSD-much of what has been covered on this list. But there was a caveat about using it in pre 2007 diesel engines mentioning premature fuel leakage, filter failure, etc, etc. (I don't have the exact quotes as my dog ate the brochure. ) So my question is-is this just lawyer talk to cover themselves, or should I start to worry-esp. about the leaks. And, if I should star to monitor this, should I worry more about the 240D than the 300D? Any references or studies would be appreciated. Thanks, Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess 1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL
I bought 12,500 centistoke oil from thechemistrystore.com Closest they had to the 6-7k oil that is supposedly what you really need. Maybe. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Next issue to sort out on rescued 79 240D
Hi Kevin. Check the mixer valve assy on the firewall (located behind the trans dipstick on firewall) and check hose connections as Jim suggested. Other than that I can't help - but I may have the WSM instructions I may be able to send to you, once I figure out how. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: [MBZ] Next issue to sort out on rescued 79 240D So I was driving the 240D the other night and needed to turn on the defroster (it has manual controls) and I detected the sweet smell of coolant. I can't recall, but I seem to remember that the heater core for W123's is in a bad place, a place that's really hard to get to. The coolant level hasn't plummeted since we've been driving the car so I'm guessing the leak is small / minor. So the question is, what to do? Do I try a stop leak product? If so, which one is likely to give the best results? (Knowing that no stop leak product is the best choice.) Or is the RR not as bad as I've been lead to believe? ...Kevin 87 300TD 282k mi 79 240D 157k mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006
[MBZ] back from RustyQ
Got back about midnight last night. Thanks to Rusty for hosting another greaty party this year. Now if we could just get him and Hurst out to an OkieQ... -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Radiator flushing
Do a search on ebay too if you need citric acid. I guess people use it in bubble baths and such. I would not know I am married... - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 1:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radiator flushing component in commercial cleaning solutions. I buy the solid citric acid in 10 lb. buckets from http://www.chemistrystore.com/ . Certainly not the least expensive after you add in the shipping, but the easiest. I bought mine at a local (commercial) baking supply store. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Americans... Remember to VOTE NEXT TUESDAY
While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance. Welcome to heaven, says St. Peter. Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you. No problem, just let me in, says the man. Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity. Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven, says the senator. I'm sorry, but we have our rules. And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him. Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne. Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go. Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises... The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him. Now it's time to visit heaven. So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns. Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity. The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell. So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above. The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. I don't understand, stammers the senator. Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened? The devil looks at him, smiles and says, Yesterday we were campaigning.. Today you voted. --
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cannister
$139.00 from me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Saxonberg Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 4:11 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cannister So, I was changing my oil yesterday (w115 300D). Today, I topped it off and ran the make sure all the oil doesn't fall out check... and all the oil fell out. Seems I've smashed up the lips on my oil filter canister pretty good, so I'll be needing a new one. Questions being: Does Rusty have them? They're not obviously on the website, but I know that means little. Or will it be time to call a recycler? If so, got any suggestions? How much is one likely to cost? Thanks as always, guys. Stuart S. 1976 300D w115 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Americans... Remember to VOTE NEXT TUESDAY
We can only hope this is true! But I'll vote regardless - ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Frank Pembleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MBZ mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] Americans... Remember to VOTE NEXT TUESDAY While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance. Welcome to heaven, says St. Peter. Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you. No problem, just let me in, says the man. Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity. Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven, says the senator. I'm sorry, but we have our rules. And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him. Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne. Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go. Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises... The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him. Now it's time to visit heaven. So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns. Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity. The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell. So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above. The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. I don't understand, stammers the senator. Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened? The devil looks at him, smiles and says, Yesterday we were campaigning.. Today you voted. -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006
[MBZ] low idle and pulsating idle when engine (not ambient temp) is cold
So I drove the 1985 300SD for 300 miles the other day. No problems. Next morning, I start the car, need to depress the accelerator to get it to start (it was not cold out) and once started, if I left off the pedal, it would stall. After holding it at normal idle for a minute or so, it would idle at low speed, but not stall...unless I put it in gear. Once the engine is up to operating temp, it idles perfectly normally and there are no other problems... EXCEPT (this may or may not be related) about a year ago, the idle started to slightly surge/pulsate until it got up to operating temp...actually up to operating temp FOR A WHILE (like 15 minutes of driving). This also is not effected by ambient temp. It was raining during the 300 miles of driving - doubt that had anything to do with it. It now does this every time I start it when the engine is cold. Ambient temp has nothing to do with it. Any ideas as to what is going on? Thanks, Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 217K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 30 17:58:13 2006 Received: from 24.svnf1.xdsl.nauticom.net ([209.195.153.153] helo=odie.pinebluff.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1GebOn-0002RH-IE for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:58:13 + Received: from odie.pinebluff.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odie.pinebluff.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k9UHw36e011786 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:58:03 -0500 Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by odie.pinebluff.net (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id k9UHw3lR011784; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:58:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: odie.pinebluff.net: apache set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f Received: from 208.22.104.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kslater); by www.pinebluff.dyndns.org with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:58:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:58:02 -0500 (EST) From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a-1 X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/2131/Sun Oct 29 17:00:12 2006 on odie.pinebluff.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Next issue to sort out on rescued 79 240D X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:58:14 - LarryT said: Hi Kevin. Check the mixer valve assy on the firewall (located behind the trans dipstick on firewall) and check hose connections as Jim suggested. Other than that I can't help - but I may have the WSM instructions I may be able to send to you, once I figure out how. I guess I should have mentioned in the original email that you will see a small wet spot on the ground under the car and from taste, it's antifreeze. So there is an external leak and I'd guess it's on the firewall somewhere, but I've yet to try to pin it down. I guess more detective work is in order. ...Kevin
Re: [MBZ] Americans... Remember to VOTE NEXT TUESDAY
Wow, that really makes me want to exercise my right to vote and be lied to. Lovely. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car Quoting Frank Pembleton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance. Welcome to heaven, says St. Peter. Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you. No problem, just let me in, says the man. Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity. Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven, says the senator. I'm sorry, but we have our rules. And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him. Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne. Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go. Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises... The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him. Now it's time to visit heaven. So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns. Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity. The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell. So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above. The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. I don't understand, stammers the senator. Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened? The devil looks at him, smiles and says, Yesterday we were campaigning.. Today you voted.
Re: [MBZ] back from RustyQ
Or we could get Jack-Daniels to move the date of their invitational BBQ so that I could attend.. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 11:01 AM To: Banned List; Mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] back from RustyQ Got back about midnight last night. Thanks to Rusty for hosting another greaty party this year. Now if we could just get him and Hurst out to an OkieQ... -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Americans... Remember to VOTE NEXT TUESDAY
You'll get lied to either way, at least this way you get to pick the ones you want, more or less. --R Luther wrote: Wow, that really makes me want to exercise my right to vote and be lied to. Lovely.
Re: [MBZ] Partly OT - cold air into exhaust
Well, to self-campaign: I have discovered that my JB Weld is holding my pipe to the body of my cylidrical muffler (despite rust). I applied it to the ends of the pipe first, then shoved it in, then liberally applied it around the diameter. Then used two beer cans, crushed to the correct height, to prop up the pipe as it dried for about a day. Nice and quiet today. JB Weld, I think, is 2.xx dollars. Brian On 10/30/06, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shouldn't you first ask for submissions of the most jalopical improvements to Mercedes and then take a vote? I've heard descriptions of some on this group which would make any innovative mechanic proud. Larry Ts Liquid Nails project will no doubt be among the top contenders because of its simplicity and the use of those ancient standbys of carpentry; liquid though they may be. Gerry - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's all vote Larry T for Jaloponist of the Year with that amazingly cost-effective solution. On 10/28/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Larry. I'll consider the liquid nails next. Brian On 10/28/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if this will work in your application, but my rear resonator/muffler/whatever it;s called had some pin holes in the leading surface area - not wanting to spend the $300+ for a new one I tried Liquid Nails Project Adhesive. It comes out of the tube (like a caulk tube) and I spread it and forced it into the holes. Once it dried (about 2 hours IIRC) I started it (my 91 300D) up and let the resonator get good and warm - the Liquid Nails has set up hard as concrete and after 3 months is still working fine. This is the car my wife drives to work - ~110 mi RT. While it's drying I would not recommend starting the engine until its had time to set up completely. When it is no longer dented by a finger nail, it's dry. A tube of Liquid Nails is ~$5 at W'mart or Home Depot, or lowes. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Partly OT - cold air into exhaust Ahhh BTDT. Rather than JB Weld get a soup can (or green beans or whatever you have) and some hose clamps. Cheaper (especially if you can get free hose clamps at the wreckers) and easier... -Curt - Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.16/504 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.17/505 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Partly OT - cold air into exhaust
Oh, then there's the gluing of my dash trim, (some of which was bowed out and hanging off, and some of which was all the way off), using a mixture of dollar store super glue and Gorilla Glue (owing to the super glue's quick bonding time, and the Gorilla's better long term bonding strength). The $5.xx price of the Gorillla is going to hurt me here. Brian I hope the purpetrator of the clothes hanger antenna doesn't chime in.
Re: [MBZ] Next issue to sort out on rescued 79 240D
As I think of it my '83 240D used to once in awhile put the sweet smell of antifreeze into the air now and again, usually after a long period of not using it. Usually went away in a few minutes. Never got any worse in the 3 years I had the car. I HATE stops leaks. Only good for plugging thermostats. -Curt - Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 30 21:10:37 2006 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.187]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GeeOz-0001F8-AO for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:10:37 + Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so26916nfc for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:10:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.55.13 with SMTP id h13mr113374nfk.1162242630943; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.216.9 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:10:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:10:30 -0500 From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: [MBZ] Columbus CL 300TE X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:10:38 - http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/227757628.html Thought a lister wanted this? -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cannister
Must be an item that is seldom damaged and thus needed. I bought the oil pan and it did not cost anywhere near that much. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 11:40 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cannister $139.00 from me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Saxonberg Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 4:11 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cannister So, I was changing my oil yesterday (w115 300D). Today, I topped it off and ran the make sure all the oil doesn't fall out check... and all the oil fell out. Seems I've smashed up the lips on my oil filter canister pretty good, so I'll be needing a new one. Questions being: Does Rusty have them? They're not obviously on the website, but I know that means little. Or will it be time to call a recycler? If so, got any suggestions? How much is one likely to cost? Thanks as always, guys. Stuart S. 1976 300D w115 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cannister
used ones are much cheaper R A Bennell wrote: Must be an item that is seldom damaged and thus needed. I bought the oil pan and it did not cost anywhere near that much. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 11:40 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cannister $139.00 from me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Saxonberg Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 4:11 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cannister So, I was changing my oil yesterday (w115 300D). Today, I topped it off and ran the make sure all the oil doesn't fall out check... and all the oil fell out. Seems I've smashed up the lips on my oil filter canister pretty good, so I'll be needing a new one. Questions being: Does Rusty have them? They're not obviously on the website, but I know that means little. Or will it be time to call a recycler? If so, got any suggestions? How much is one likely to cost? Thanks as always, guys. Stuart S. 1976 300D w115 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] Hibernation
Last Thursday was a pretty nice day here and I am glad that I took advantage of it. I took the afternoon off and my mother and I went for a ride in the old 300D. We did a circle tour of part of southern Manitoba. Went from Winnipeg out southwest through Carman and then west past Stephenfield and then south to Manitou so that we could see the wind generation farm again, then west from Manitou through LaRiviere to Pilot Mound (or at least close to it), then north through Holland all the way to Austin, then east through Portage la Prairie (where we stopped for supper) and then on back east to Winnipeg on highway 1. Left about 1:30 and back home about 7:00 so about 5 1/2 hours with about 5 hours in the car. Only about 235 miles but mostly 2 lane back roads. Very little traffic on most of it. A few school buses around the time the kids were getting out of school. Lots of traffic going both ways on #1 after supper but that is 4 lane so not as much concern about lousy drivers. Winnipeg sits in a broad river valley and is pretty flat so it is the better part of an hour's run before the terrain gets more interesting. Gets quite pretty once you are out an hour or more southwest. Rolling hills and farms. Can see why people will live out there even though it is a bit remote. Mom is from Ontario and has seen little of Manitoba west of Winnipeg. She quite enjoyed the afternoon. (She is 74 and in good health.) Can ran well - never missed a beat. 65 mph most of the time. A bit noisier than our newer vehicles and the seats are a bit hard but really amazing for its age. I planned to pull the plates and switch to storage insurance as of Oct 31 anyway but today it is snowing here and messy out so I wouldn't have driven it today anyway. Snow may well stay now as it is cold enough to do so. Glad that I took the time to do the run on Thursday as it has not been as good since. Will need to fire it up once more to warm it a bit and then change the oil but apart from that it is done until spring. Randy
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cannister
Gee, he says tongue in cheek, I wonder where one could get a used one? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 3:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cannister used ones are much cheaper R A Bennell wrote: Must be an item that is seldom damaged and thus needed. I bought the oil pan and it did not cost anywhere near that much. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 11:40 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cannister $139.00 from me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Saxonberg Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 4:11 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cannister So, I was changing my oil yesterday (w115 300D). Today, I topped it off and ran the make sure all the oil doesn't fall out check... and all the oil fell out. Seems I've smashed up the lips on my oil filter canister pretty good, so I'll be needing a new one. Questions being: Does Rusty have them? They're not obviously on the website, but I know that means little. Or will it be time to call a recycler? If so, got any suggestions? How much is one likely to cost? Thanks as always, guys. Stuart S. 1976 300D w115 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT, router
How do I get into my wireless Linksys router? No, I am not stupid, I know how to do it, but cant seem to. See, what happened, is the internet port on the router went out supposedly so my wireless IP gave me a d-link router(not wireless) and piggy backed it to my old wireless router. So the internet is managed from the dlink, and wireless access in the house via the linksys. I can get into the dlink, ie 192.168.0.1. Cant get into the linksys. The old address to get into it was 192.168.1.1 I believe but that doenst get it. The PC that is wired is hooked directly to the dlink so the only thing hooked to the linksys is the connection from the other router. Today I moved the PC connection to the linksys, still gets internet access that way etc but still will not get into the router. Point is, I need to get back into it to secure the wireless access portion. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Cannister
Oh, I might have them maybe if one would want me to check, perhaps. R A Bennell wrote: Gee, he says tongue in cheek, I wonder where one could get a used one? Randy -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT, router
I know my D-Link wireless provides an option for remote access; to set it up though, you need to connect to it. If I understand your setup correctly, there are 2 ways you could accomplish this with your linksys, assuming its similiar to my D-link. The first would be hook a computer directly into the linksys, and manage it that way. If its ethernet port is broken though, you'll need to access to D-link and use port forwarding to set up a port to the IP of the linksys, then access it that way. IE, set up port 12345 on the D-link to forward to the IP that corresponds to the Linksis, then access the linksis by going to 192.168.0.1:12345 Catch all that? Mike On 10/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get into my wireless Linksys router? No, I am not stupid, I know how to do it, but cant seem to. See, what happened, is the internet port on the router went out supposedly so my wireless IP gave me a d-link router(not wireless) and piggy backed it to my old wireless router. So the internet is managed from the dlink, and wireless access in the house via the linksys. I can get into the dlink, ie 192.168.0.1. Cant get into the linksys. The old address to get into it was 192.168.1.1 I believe but that doenst get it. The PC that is wired is hooked directly to the dlink so the only thing hooked to the linksys is the connection from the other router. Today I moved the PC connection to the linksys, still gets internet access that way etc but still will not get into the router. Point is, I need to get back into it to secure the wireless access portion. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, router
i don't know, but send me those damn pictures from saturday On 10/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get into my wireless Linksys router? No, I am not stupid, I know how to do it, but cant seem to. See, what happened, is the internet port on the router went out supposedly so my wireless IP gave me a d-link router(not wireless) and piggy backed it to my old wireless router. So the internet is managed from the dlink, and wireless access in the house via the linksys. I can get into the dlink, ie 192.168.0.1. Cant get into the linksys. The old address to get into it was 192.168.1.1 I believe but that doenst get it. The PC that is wired is hooked directly to the dlink so the only thing hooked to the linksys is the connection from the other router. Today I moved the PC connection to the linksys, still gets internet access that way etc but still will not get into the router. Point is, I need to get back into it to secure the wireless access portion. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, router
Kaleb, Connect just the wireless, linksys, to the PC and nothing else. Then hit reset button linksys and try 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.1.1, one of them should work. With the netgear in loop it may not route the 192.1.68.1.1 to the linksys correctly. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:29 PM To: Mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] OT, router How do I get into my wireless Linksys router? No, I am not stupid, I know how to do it, but cant seem to. See, what happened, is the internet port on the router went out supposedly so my wireless IP gave me a d-link router(not wireless) and piggy backed it to my old wireless router. So the internet is managed from the dlink, and wireless access in the house via the linksys. I can get into the dlink, ie 192.168.0.1. Cant get into the linksys. The old address to get into it was 192.168.1.1 I believe but that doenst get it. The PC that is wired is hooked directly to the dlink so the only thing hooked to the linksys is the connection from the other router. Today I moved the PC connection to the linksys, still gets internet access that way etc but still will not get into the router. Point is, I need to get back into it to secure the wireless access portion. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, router
Pictures? From Saturday? I wanna see Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, router i don't know, but send me those damn pictures from saturday On 10/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get into my wireless Linksys router? No, I am not stupid, I know how to do it, but cant seem to. See, what happened, is the internet port on the router went out supposedly so my wireless IP gave me a d-link router(not wireless) and piggy backed it to my old wireless router. So the internet is managed from the dlink, and wireless access in the house via the linksys. I can get into the dlink, ie 192.168.0.1. Cant get into the linksys. The old address to get into it was 192.168.1.1 I believe but that doenst get it. The PC that is wired is hooked directly to the dlink so the only thing hooked to the linksys is the connection from the other router. Today I moved the PC connection to the linksys, still gets internet access that way etc but still will not get into the router. Point is, I need to get back into it to secure the wireless access portion. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, router
mine came with a disk . it said install this disk before connecting then i connected now i have wireless over my vast holdings On 10/30/06, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb, Connect just the wireless, linksys, to the PC and nothing else. Then hit reset button linksys and try 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.1.1, one of them should work. With the netgear in loop it may not route the 192.1.68.1.1 to the linksys correctly. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:29 PM To: Mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] OT, router How do I get into my wireless Linksys router? No, I am not stupid, I know how to do it, but cant seem to. See, what happened, is the internet port on the router went out supposedly so my wireless IP gave me a d-link router(not wireless) and piggy backed it to my old wireless router. So the internet is managed from the dlink, and wireless access in the house via the linksys. I can get into the dlink, ie 192.168.0.1. Cant get into the linksys. The old address to get into it was 192.168.1.1 I believe but that doenst get it. The PC that is wired is hooked directly to the dlink so the only thing hooked to the linksys is the connection from the other router. Today I moved the PC connection to the linksys, still gets internet access that way etc but still will not get into the router. Point is, I need to get back into it to secure the wireless access portion. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Flex disk change
Gump has decided to destroy her rear flex disk. I am thinking about what else I need for my Rusty order. Should I do the whole drive shaft with center bearing and both disk? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Flex disk change
Wow! How did you catch it in time before it vibrated things to pieces!? i've heard of anything from broken transmissions and difs and the driveshaft itself being destroyed by a bad blex disk. I've never replaced one on the cars I've owned, so I guess I've been lucky. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
Re: [MBZ] Flex disk change
I recall it being a kind of growl/whrrr/vibe thing. You'll know. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Flex disk change Wow! How did you catch it in time before it vibrated things to pieces!? i've heard of anything from broken transmissions and difs and the driveshaft itself being destroyed by a bad blex disk. I've never replaced one on the cars I've owned, so I guess I've been lucky. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, router
yea sort of. I did hook a computer directly to the linksys and still could not access it though. Michael Hall wrote: I know my D-Link wireless provides an option for remote access; to set it up though, you need to connect to it. If I understand your setup correctly, there are 2 ways you could accomplish this with your linksys, assuming its similiar to my D-link. The first would be hook a computer directly into the linksys, and manage it that way. If its ethernet port is broken though, you'll need to access to D-link and use port forwarding to set up a port to the IP of the linksys, then access it that way. IE, set up port 12345 on the D-link to forward to the IP that corresponds to the Linksis, then access the linksis by going to 192.168.0.1:12345 Catch all that? Mike On 10/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get into my wireless Linksys router? No, I am not stupid, I know how to do it, but cant seem to. See, what happened, is the internet port on the router went out supposedly so my wireless IP gave me a d-link router(not wireless) and piggy backed it to my old wireless router. So the internet is managed from the dlink, and wireless access in the house via the linksys. I can get into the dlink, ie 192.168.0.1. Cant get into the linksys. The old address to get into it was 192.168.1.1 I believe but that doenst get it. The PC that is wired is hooked directly to the dlink so the only thing hooked to the linksys is the connection from the other router. Today I moved the PC connection to the linksys, still gets internet access that way etc but still will not get into the router. Point is, I need to get back into it to secure the wireless access portion. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT, router
Yea, Im going to get those up on okiebenz soon. Gary Hurst wrote: i don't know, but send me those damn pictures from saturday On 10/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get into my wireless Linksys router? No, I am not stupid, I know how to do it, but cant seem to. See, what happened, is the internet port on the router went out supposedly so my wireless IP gave me a d-link router(not wireless) and piggy backed it to my old wireless router. So the internet is managed from the dlink, and wireless access in the house via the linksys. I can get into the dlink, ie 192.168.0.1. Cant get into the linksys. The old address to get into it was 192.168.1.1 I believe but that doenst get it. The PC that is wired is hooked directly to the dlink so the only thing hooked to the linksys is the connection from the other router. Today I moved the PC connection to the linksys, still gets internet access that way etc but still will not get into the router. Point is, I need to get back into it to secure the wireless access portion. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT, router
Then your Ethernet port may in fact be broken, unless other drivers software are necessary to access the router as someone else has suggested. Most user manuals are available online, try to find out if thats the case. If not, you may have to use the port forwarding. Mike On 10/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea sort of. I did hook a computer directly to the linksys and still could not access it though. Michael Hall wrote: I know my D-Link wireless provides an option for remote access; to set it up though, you need to connect to it. If I understand your setup correctly, there are 2 ways you could accomplish this with your linksys, assuming its similiar to my D-link. The first would be hook a computer directly into the linksys, and manage it that way. If its ethernet port is broken though, you'll need to access to D-link and use port forwarding to set up a port to the IP of the linksys, then access it that way. IE, set up port 12345 on the D-link to forward to the IP that corresponds to the Linksis, then access the linksis by going to 192.168.0.1:12345 Catch all that? Mike On 10/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get into my wireless Linksys router? No, I am not stupid, I know how to do it, but cant seem to. See, what happened, is the internet port on the router went out supposedly so my wireless IP gave me a d-link router(not wireless) and piggy backed it to my old wireless router. So the internet is managed from the dlink, and wireless access in the house via the linksys. I can get into the dlink, ie 192.168.0.1. Cant get into the linksys. The old address to get into it was 192.168.1.1 I believe but that doenst get it. The PC that is wired is hooked directly to the dlink so the only thing hooked to the linksys is the connection from the other router. Today I moved the PC connection to the linksys, still gets internet access that way etc but still will not get into the router. Point is, I need to get back into it to secure the wireless access portion. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, router
What I ended up doing just now was taking the dlink out of the picture, hooking up to the linxsys, and hitting the rest button. I could then go in and change my wireless settings etc like I want. Hooked both back upo again and reboot them. No internet and cant get into the dlink. Took the linksys out of the loop, reboot the dlink now I have internet and can get into the dlink router. Hooked linksys back up, reboot both, can get internet hooked to either router. Assuming wireless portion will work. Now cant get into linksys but thats OK since I was able to change what I needed to change. Michael Hall wrote: Then your Ethernet port may in fact be broken, unless other drivers software are necessary to access the router as someone else has suggested. Most user manuals are available online, try to find out if thats the case. If not, you may have to use the port forwarding. Mike On 10/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea sort of. I did hook a computer directly to the linksys and still could not access it though. Michael Hall wrote: I know my D-Link wireless provides an option for remote access; to set it up though, you need to connect to it. If I understand your setup correctly, there are 2 ways you could accomplish this with your linksys, assuming its similiar to my D-link. The first would be hook a computer directly into the linksys, and manage it that way. If its ethernet port is broken though, you'll need to access to D-link and use port forwarding to set up a port to the IP of the linksys, then access it that way. IE, set up port 12345 on the D-link to forward to the IP that corresponds to the Linksis, then access the linksis by going to 192.168.0.1:12345 Catch all that? Mike On 10/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get into my wireless Linksys router? No, I am not stupid, I know how to do it, but cant seem to. See, what happened, is the internet port on the router went out supposedly so my wireless IP gave me a d-link router(not wireless) and piggy backed it to my old wireless router. So the internet is managed from the dlink, and wireless access in the house via the linksys. I can get into the dlink, ie 192.168.0.1. Cant get into the linksys. The old address to get into it was 192.168.1.1 I believe but that doenst get it. The PC that is wired is hooked directly to the dlink so the only thing hooked to the linksys is the connection from the other router. Today I moved the PC connection to the linksys, still gets internet access that way etc but still will not get into the router. Point is, I need to get back into it to secure the wireless access portion. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Flex disk change
I was stupid and lucky. Drove about 85 miles with it like that at highway speeds. Got home and took a peek to see if the muffler was busted since the noise was on acceleration at higher speed. No low speed noise, but get into third and get noise. Not quite all shredded, but on the way. The front disk looks fine, as does the center bearing. On Oct 30, 2006, at 2:53 PM, kevin kraly wrote: Wow! How did you catch it in time before it vibrated things to pieces!? i've heard of anything from broken transmissions and difs and the driveshaft itself being destroyed by a bad blex disk. I've never replaced one on the cars I've owned, so I guess I've been lucky. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Flex disk change
Really sounded like I had blown out the exhaust and was having flaming fuel blowing out the underside of the car. A growly, rumbly thing On Oct 30, 2006, at 2:58 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: I recall it being a kind of growl/whrrr/vibe thing. You'll know. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Flex disk change Wow! How did you catch it in time before it vibrated things to pieces!? i've heard of anything from broken transmissions and difs and the driveshaft itself being destroyed by a bad blex disk. I've never replaced one on the cars I've owned, so I guess I've been lucky. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
