Car is a 1979 240D automatic, 123 chassis. Want to see if any one has used
a topsider to suck out old tranny fluid. Do I still need to rotate engine
and remove drain plug?
This job will include changing out filter unit as well. Any stories or
hints you could share please?
Regards Tom
110 Chassis 200D Questions
Car is a 1968 200D Fin back. Any idea what is involved in fixing the
windshield wiper transmission and fixing the heater vents and control
valves?
Need estimate on labor hours and complexity as well as approx $ parts if A)
I did my self, B) MB did it.
Regards
Hi, Alles.
I was looking at my daughter's Toyota and noticed that the lenses are
not as clear as they were, so, I was wondering if there is a product
to polish/clear plastic head lamp lenses?
Gapin idjit wantz 2 no.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Dieselitis maximus
I used the $2 sucker to get the fluid out of my old Blazer (700R4) as
the fill tube has a straight shot to the bottom of the pan. Cleaned out
all but a little bit. I don't think you can do that with the 123
tranny, I vaguely recall trying and I don't think the suck hose will go
down very
Hi Jim,
You wrote:Sure. The quick way is to pull the plug off the GP relay and
use a
DMM to measure the resistance to ground of each one. The rated value
is 0.6 ohms, though it can vary with temperature. The important part
is that they all be about the same.
Even better is to use a hefty
I used an old washing machine hose over the dip stick tube to remove the
excess fluid, good fit. It worked very good because the tube goes down to
the pan. I don't think you will drain the converter this way though. In
addition you should change the filter. I was a little worried that the
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Right! It doesn't have ACC - and if it did, it would have the dreaded
servo (like mine does). I think the possibilities are a bad valve
(manual - like a 240D), broken cable controlling the valve, can't
think of much else in a manual heater system. Since he has heat all
the time, water is flowing
Oh, I wasn't sure if the later models all used a mono-valve, whether ACC or
not. So, $600 seems a tad high to fix what shouldn't be all that much
work, eh?
Glenn Brown sent me a nifty pic of the heater valve in his '76 W107, but
it's obviously vacuum operated, with no cables at all.
On
no, those are 121hp, you are wrong :)
Michael Hall wrote:
More specifically, it was was 81-85 300SD with the turbo 617 with ~120hp
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL,
87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D,
that is correct. Its a very easy job though, plenty of room with the 603
Loren Faeth wrote:
I finally ordered new mounts for my SDL, and went out to size up the
job. I quickly concluded it ain't as simple as on the 110,111,108,123
cars. I could do the 200D mounts from on top in a few
N, really? BTW, thanks for passing along to Ms B
Frank Pembleton wrote:
Here's the deal.
BEFORE THE CHECK YOU WRITE IS CASHED, YOU MUST HAVE THE MONEY IN YOUR
ACCOUNT.
_
Frank Pembleton other half of 15 year bank manager; former transporter of
checks via the
no
LT Don wrote:
I spent two years doing internal-customer computer support for Barnett Bank
out of a cubicle in Jacksonville FL. Does that count?
On 10/31/06, Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Anybody here in the banking business or know about it? If so, email me
Yeah, but I watched the episode and back calculated, by the resonant
frequency attained at the peak in the power band as it corresponded with the
highest amplitude wave pattern generated by the turbo and factoring an
appropriate depreciative value of the transmission [which I calculated
during
Could be vacuum operated - I've never seen a manual heat system in a 107.
His is a '79 - so it would use the old servo. Yes - the later ones use
the mono valve (after '83?).
On 11/1/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, I wasn't sure if the later models all used a mono-valve, whether ACC
Got my 2 new GPs today so tomorow I'll try to find out what the
problem is.
To refresh memory - I have new GPs and new GP relay - preglow light
goes out
within 1 sec. of turning the key)
That sounds like a problem internal to the GP relay. These things are
likely NOS, not new-new, and the
I was looking at my daughter's Toyota and noticed that the lenses are
not as clear as they were, so, I was wondering if there is a product
to polish/clear plastic head lamp lenses?
Dollar bills, applied in quantity, seem to be about the only thing
that actually works.
-- Jim
Spoke with a co-worker yesterday about his '79 Euro-spec W107. It has
A/C,
but manual climate controls. He says his driver side heat is always
on,
which I thought was a standard default for a failed mono-valve, but I
don't
know if the manuals come with those.
If this '79 is like our
30-0-30 ammeter.
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:33:54 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Got my 2 new GPs today so tomorow I'll try to find out what the
problem is.
To refresh memory - I have new GPs and new GP relay - preglow light
goes out
within 1 sec. of turning the key)
That sounds
At last - someone who knows what he's talking about!
If this '79 is like our US-issue '76, the manual system has a
vacuum-controlled water valve. When either heat lever is lifted
off of MIN, a vacuum bleed valve is opened up resulting in the
water valve actuator being released, letting hot
Just about, but this one has more rust than Gump. Nice car if it
really does run
On Oct 31, 2006, at 6:25 AM, Rick Knoble wrote:
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Looks a
Great for fermenting home brew in as well
On Nov 1, 2006, at 9:54 AM, ernest breakfield wrote:
a sort of jug; generally seen around Biodiesel circles in 5 Gal
varieties.
http://www.metacrawler.com/info.metac/search/web/carboy/1/-/1/-/-/-/
I used the sucker in the e300d with no trouble. Also suck it out of
the manual trans in Gump. Do remove and replace the filter on AT if
you are going to drain the TC. I did not bother when just changing out
the fluid without filter.
On Nov 1, 2006, at 4:35 PM, Anthony Galioto wrote:
I
I was looking at my daughter's Toyota and noticed that the lenses are
not as clear as they were, so, I was wondering if there is a product
to polish/clear plastic head lamp lenses?
Dollar bills, applied in quantity, seem to be about the only thing
that actually works.
-- Jim
Loren thanks a million. A person in CA who is trying to sell me a $7K
200D car said oh it takes the dexterity of a gymnast like Olga Korbit to do
these jobs. You have put an air of DIY realism I can live with.
Regards Tom
Regards
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Thanks Redghost ak Anthony!/Tom
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Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Sucker for Tranny Juice
I used the sucker in the e300d with no trouble. Also suck
There was a product that we used to use to polish up aircraft windows
and the windshield (which are Plexiglas) - I think it was a Maguires
plastic polish or something like that. It might help.
The headlight lenses on my wife's '97 Plymouth van are getting quite
foggy and I was thinking about
I have heard that you can use toothpaste, though I have not yet tried
it. I plan to check it out on my granddaughter's Celica soon. If anyone
comes up with a GOOD solution, please post.
Tom Potter
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Last week I changed the vac. fuel shut-off on my E300D. In order to do this
I had to remove the ADA pot on the IP.
Now my wife complains the car shifts very harsh and makes a big clunk doing
so. I don't think I knocked the trans. modulator vac. line off because when
I tried it I noticed it gets a
A friend did this on his motorcycle windshield. It worked, but didn't last.
On 11/2/06, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have heard that you can use toothpaste, though I have not yet tried
it. I plan to check it out on my granddaughter's Celica soon. If anyone
comes up with a GOOD
I was looking at my daughter's Toyota and noticed that the lenses are
not as clear as they were, so, I was wondering if there is a product
to polish/clear plastic head lamp lenses?
Dollar bills, applied in quantity, seem to be about the only thing
that actually works.
-- Jim
Now my wife complains the car shifts very harsh and makes a big clunk
doing
so. I don't think I knocked the trans. modulator vac. line off because
when
I tried it I noticed it gets a little smoother when easing off the
pedal.
You affected it somehow. The vacuum valve on the IP is intended to
That's a good idea, I did not think the tube goes all the way to the
bottom of the pan though (or there was something in the way). Next time
I take it off I'll have to check. On the GM tranny, the tube stops
before the bottom, but it points there, and the suck tube can slide all
the way to
Thanks Jim.
Finally I read the test procedure correct. On the SML they show doing the
test at the control valve. I mixed the lines coming and going up though, so
it didn't make good sense. Vacuum should be @ 350mb at idle w/ throttle off,
and 0 at full throttle.
I was concerned that the ADA may
You are better to DIY over a dealer, because you already know more about
doing it than anyone at a dealer. It is a good job for a nice
Saturday. If you buy a CA car, make sure they check the antifreeze and
bring it up to spec before it is shipped or before you take off driving
it. Otherwise
Why not disconnecting the return line at the cooler and hooking up the
sucker there? Still won't drain the converter.
On 11/2/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's a good idea, I did not think the tube goes all the way to the
bottom of the pan though (or there was something in the
Check this out. The last two pictures tell me this is good for my grandson,
not for me.
http://www.autolanka.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=862
--
Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D
Last year i had to buy a NEW$$$ right headlight for my SDL after the
nighttime pheasant attack. After theat, the right headlight is noticeably
brighter than the left.
Moral of the story: even glass headlights loose effectiveness over 18-20
years.
The fix: Cathey's original statement.
The old chrysler pushbutton transmission returns. The first thing MB got
from chrysler, the ACC servo, is notorious for being the worst piece of
crap mb ever put in a car.
No thanks
At 09:10 AM 11/2/2006, you wrote:
Check this out. The last two pictures tell me this is good for my grandson,
Foggy plastic headlights can be fixed by spraying clear coat over them. I
have a friend who is a used car dealer and it is amazing just to see what it
will do. IT works great on W126 fog lights.
Trampas
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Am I the only one who thinks this an awesome car?
Mike
I'm still waiting for someone to show me an AMG W123 diesel... (:
Levi
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Am I the
It's rare alright. They never made a 280E AMG, it's just a homemade
version.
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Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:47 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Rare AMG W123
Am I the only one who thinks this an awesome car?
Nice wheels, what are they? I don't see many styling cues Euro lights
and perhaps lower body cladding and a slight chin spoiler? Very understated.
Would look good on my coupe.
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
you wrote:new GPs and new GP relay - preglow light
goes out within 1 sec. of turning the key)
That sounds like a problem internal to the GP relay
Jim,
Cosider this: It starts instantly - after I count to 10 before firing it
up - so it *is* pre-glowing the GPs. Else it would be hard to
I have [or had at some point] a brochure from AMG in pdf format that
disagrees. It shows offerings of body kits for at least the 123 coupe and
sedan, but nothing about engine conversions. I'll try to dig it up when I
get home. No, its not from AllData.
Mike
On 11/2/06, Rusty [EMAIL
Body kits yes. Engines enhancements no.
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Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:10 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rare AMG W123
I have [or had at some point] a brochure from
Right, well no one said this car had engine enhancements, but a Euro spec
M110 with a 5 speed should be a fun drive!
I'm pretty sure AMG stuck the 5 liter version of their DOHC Hammer motor
in a 123 coupe. It was probably a one-off, like most AMG offerings of the
time; I saw a picture of one
You could buy spare parts, spoilers, wheels side skirts, etc from AMG in
the 80's, but AMG was not affiliated with Mercedes at that time and
didn't assemble these cars. You bought the parts and had it done
yourself.
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I agree wholeheartedly with you. But the trend to use non serviceable
gizmo's which barely survive the warranty periode is wide spread nowadays.
I have a '97 Riviera, only make my wife ever considered driving until the
E300D came along:
The security system is defeated because of faults.
The
That makes sense. Good to know.
On 11/2/06, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Foggy plastic headlights can be fixed by spraying clear coat over them. I
have a friend who is a used car dealer and it is amazing just to see what
it
will do. IT works great on W126 fog lights.
Trampas
Well, I could comment on how almost perfect my two 97' Subaru's have been
for about the last 7 years and hundreds of thousands of miles. But then
they don't have any of the features you listed except for the horn(though
they do work perfectly and have never had a problem).
Levi (:
On 11/2/06,
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I disagree - there were cars assembled by AMG, in addition the cars put
together at other places. AMG certainly put together some cars; they raced
them for sure! a W109 300SE 6.8 is the car that put them on the Map, so to
speak.
One of many articles available about it online;
I have a friend who is looking to sell his 1983 (I think it is an 83) 500SEL
AMG W126.
Trampas
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Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rare
Yes-I have used it on eyeglasses. Also jewelers rouge is good on glass.
Dwight Giles
Potter wrote:
I have heard that you can use toothpaste, though I have not yet tried
it. I plan to check it out on my granddaughter's Celica soon. If anyone
comes up with a GOOD solution, please post.
Jim wrote: That sounds like a problem internal to the GP relay. These
things are
likely NOS, not new-new, and the timing capacitor
Hi Jim,
I just checked the wiring and GPs by testing the resistance between the
plug at the relay and the engine. I removed the plug and put the pos lead
in
I guess if I have to get under the 123 chassis to do the converter, and the
tranny filter I might as well pull the bango fill tube. Problem was last
time I did this on my 1977 300D I did not seal the filler tube right and it
leaked real bad and I had to go back and correct. Operator error
Hans wrote:I have a '97 Riviera, only make my wife ever considered driving
until the
E300D came along: The security system [SNIP]
Hans,
Are you saying the Riviera had all those problems or the E300D?
Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
The latest Car Draive has a one page blurb about a new Audi SUV with a V12
Diesel with twin turbo's and intercoolers - giving almost 500hp and 740
torque!
Will MB offer a competitor anytime soon?
The Audi V12 TDI gets ~20mpg, with the speed limited at 155mph! It can be
yours for only
Rusty wrote:
It's rare alright. They never made a 280E AMG, it's just a homemade
version.
I thought AMG would customize any car you wanted back then.
Somebody, somewhere please tell me why the hell you need those kind of
performance numnbers! Is your peepee THAT small that you need to make up for
it somehow?? When will this kind of lunacy end??
It's absolutely shameful that all the new engine technologies have been used
to create unnecessary
AMG did fiddle with the 110, or perhaps just put on a fancy rocker cover
http://www.mercedes-damien.com/historique/amg%20sous%20menu/AMG%20W123/amg%20w123.htm
http://www.amg-classics.de/6601.html
They even did the 102
http://www.geocities.com/johan01.geo/AMG/
Interesting to note that AMG where
The AMG Classic website link you provided has some great looking
conversions - I especially like the W124 W126 2 4 door sedans they
show - no diesels but cool just the same --
Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results
Jim wrote: That sounds like a problem internal to the GP relay. These
things are
likely NOS, not new-new, and the timing capacitor
Hi Jim,
Need your expertise one more time --
I just checked the wiring and GPs by testing the resistance between the
plug at the relay and the engine. I
My 300SDL has AMG (or AMG look-a-like) ground effect parts --
On 11/2/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The AMG Classic website link you provided has some great looking
conversions - I especially like the W124 W126 2 4 door sedans they
show - no diesels but cool just the same --
--
OK
Ditto on what Jeff and others have said about the
differences. I prefer the 123 though. I prefer the
smaller size and the feeling of driving the car versus
riding along. For me the 126 makes a great
vacation/highway cruiser. In most other situations I
find it a little large and unwieldy and
Mike is 100% correct here. I have the literature to document this from
AMG back in the day. Also, AMG did have a North American operation
which closed down in the early 1990s. AMG also would sell body panels
for folks to have installed themselves. WRT the m110, where this
discussion began,
I might as well pull the bango fill tube. Problem was last
time I did this on my 1977 300D I did not seal the filler tube right and it
leaked real bad and I had to go back and correct. Operator error
I hate that stupid filler tube design with the washers that need to be
assembled the CORRECT
Kevin feel you pan. I think I ended up using a slight coat of lock tight to
solve the problem on that fill tube on my 1977. Cannot just torque the *^%
out of it to stop it as I recall/Tom
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I have looked at many MB diesels, and still think the 123 chassis even with
non turbo engines (for simplicity)
was the high water mark of car design. Many will disagree about the turbo an
I know I am in the minority.
I have toyed at buying the 115 and the 110 chassis an even some Ponton
An 83 300D (that is what was asked) will have power windows and the
Auto A/C like in the 300SD. Engines are practically the same, both
being 617 turbo diesels. No power seats on the W123.
On 11/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have looked at many MB diesels, and still think
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