Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D
I wonder if the power to weight ration of a W115 220D automatic is better or worse than a W123 240D automatic? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunil Hari Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D yeah - you could actually turn the key and start the car. that's pretty souped up compared to the 115s. Buy the 220 - but be warned, it'll be really slow with that auto box. On 12/16/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His 240D is a souped up Benz? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D Buy it, you will never go back to a souped up benz! On Dec 13, 2006, at 10:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Courting possibly purchasing a 220D as a third car or the family. Southern car. One owner. 190K miles on vehicle rebuilt engine at 150K. Car appears to be well maintained. All instrruments and fans work. Automatic tranny. Presendtly being looked at by a reputable mechanic visa via an inspection/mechanical and rust inspection. Wanted to gt the lists opinion on these car. Besides the ussual stuff you hear from you tubo people about slow acceleration. Are parts hard to get? If I can work on a 123 chassis how easy are these 115 chassis. Oil filters look a little tougher to change? Regards Tom Sordato 1979 240D -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D
With Mobil 1 and Purge my 79 240D now does 0-60 in 19 minutes. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D Yeah Dwight my 240 does 0-60 in 20 minutes!!/Tom - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D His 240D is a souped up Benz? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D Buy it, you will never go back to a souped up benz! On Dec 13, 2006, at 10:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Courting possibly purchasing a 220D as a third car or the family. Southern car. One owner. 190K miles on vehicle rebuilt engine at 150K. Car appears to be well maintained. All instrruments and fans work. Automatic tranny. Presendtly being looked at by a reputable mechanic visa via an inspection/mechanical and rust inspection. Wanted to gt the lists opinion on these car. Besides the ussual stuff you hear from you tubo people about slow acceleration. Are parts hard to get? If I can work on a 123 chassis how easy are these 115 chassis. Oil filters look a little tougher to change? Regards Tom Sordato 1979 240D -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D
Tom, Is your 79 240D a stick? Will you keep it after you get the 115 220D? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D Newest benz I ever owned is my 79 240D my daily driver and only car I own. I had a 77 300D but put it to pasture in Feb 2005 RIP. Regards Tom - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D Buy it, you will never go back to a souped up benz! On Dec 13, 2006, at 10:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Courting possibly purchasing a 220D as a third car or the family. Southern car. One owner. 190K miles on vehicle rebuilt engine at 150K. Car appears to be well maintained. All instrruments and fans work. Automatic tranny. Presendtly being looked at by a reputable mechanic visa via an inspection/mechanical and rust inspection. Wanted to gt the lists opinion on these car. Besides the ussual stuff you hear from you tubo people about slow acceleration. Are parts hard to get? If I can work on a 123 chassis how easy are these 115 chassis. Oil filters look a little tougher to change? Regards Tom Sordato 1979 240D -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes
Message: 17 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:35:21 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Zeitgeist wrote: I'm presently without power, and may be for some time, due to recent wind storm activity. My generator blew up my surge protector, so I'm running my DSL modem off of the battery from my van, and using our laptop w/wireless. I strongly suspect our generator is malfunctioning and pumping an unregulated voltage supply, which unfortunately blows stuff up. Is there an external voltage rectifying unit I can purchase which will avoid this situation so it doesn't keep happening every time I fire up the generator? The power just came on up here on Marrowstone. This is what I was looking at http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=LE1200#
Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D
Is your 79 240D a stick? Will you keep it after you get the 115 220D? Dwight Dwight my 79 is an auto and yes I will keep it only 106K miles. I do alot of driving and need a back up vehicle/Tom My 1979 240D is an auto - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D Tom, Is your 79 240D a stick? Will you keep it after you get the 115 220D? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D Newest benz I ever owned is my 79 240D my daily driver and only car I own. I had a 77 300D but put it to pasture in Feb 2005 RIP. Regards Tom - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D Buy it, you will never go back to a souped up benz! On Dec 13, 2006, at 10:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Courting possibly purchasing a 220D as a third car or the family. Southern car. One owner. 190K miles on vehicle rebuilt engine at 150K. Car appears to be well maintained. All instrruments and fans work. Automatic tranny. Presendtly being looked at by a reputable mechanic visa via an inspection/mechanical and rust inspection. Wanted to gt the lists opinion on these car. Besides the ussual stuff you hear from you tubo people about slow acceleration. Are parts hard to get? If I can work on a 123 chassis how easy are these 115 chassis. Oil filters look a little tougher to change? Regards Tom Sordato 1979 240D -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Marrowstone Island
The power just came on up here on Marrowstone. I have some friends who have a waterfront cabin on the east side. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Golden Age? Finding 80s Autos (now heading into a rant)
And that is scary. I want performance cars only in the hands of those trained or capable of handling them. Brian David wrote: Here they all use surplus cop cars.
Re: [MBZ] Golden Age? Finding 80s Autos (now heading into a rant)
Zoltan Finks wrote: And that is scary. I want performance cars only in the hands of those trained or capable of handling them. So you want them kept out of the hands of cops?
Re: [MBZ] Golden Age? Finding 80s Autos (now heading into a rant)
Zoltan Finks wrote: And that is scary. I want performance cars only in the hands of those trained or capable of handling them. A Crown Vic Police Interceptor is not really a performance car. It's got basically the same engine as a V-8 Mustang and considerably more weight. 0-60 times are in the 8 second range. True, the speed limiter is raised to around 130 mph, but there are much faster cars out there. The differences between the civilian Crown Vic and the PI mostly improve handling and allow it to sustain top speed without overheating and idle for long periods without draining the battery.
Re: [MBZ] Golden Age? Finding 80s Autos (now heading into a rant)
A visual cue to the police package is the dual exhaust. So there are some small hardware differences. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Golden Age? Finding 80s Autos (now heading into a rant) Zoltan Finks wrote: And that is scary. I want performance cars only in the hands of those trained or capable of handling them. A Crown Vic Police Interceptor is not really a performance car. It's got basically the same engine as a V-8 Mustang and considerably more weight. 0-60 times are in the 8 second range. True, the speed limiter is raised to around 130 mph, but there are much faster cars out there. The differences between the civilian Crown Vic and the PI mostly improve handling and allow it to sustain top speed without overheating and idle for long periods without draining the battery. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 12/15/2006 5:10 PM
Re: [MBZ] Golden Age? Finding 80s Autos (now heading into a rant)
Chris Kueny wrote: A visual cue to the police package is the dual exhaust. So there are some small hardware differences. Yeah, that's good for a small horsepower gain. It's also found on Crown Victorias with the trailer towing package. It's one of the few examples of a modern car with a true dual exhaust, not a Y-pipe. The police package also usually has a lower rear end ratio, but it depends on how it was ordered. The basic engine and transmission are the same as the civilian version, but the ECU programming is slightly different, they have a higher-output alternator, and some additional cooling is added. (Oil cooler, power steering fluid cooler.)
Re: [MBZ] I hate to start another oil thread . . .
Hi Glenn, Please don't take this as any kind of a personal thing, its just your financial advantage isn't... So you've given actual prices which makes it better than what I gave before. Let me again use myself as an example. I drive 108 miles 5 days a week. With conventional oil thats got me changing the oil every other month... So Mobil 1 usually comes in 5 quart jugs, not gallons but your price looks right for a gallon, we'll need 5 quarts though so $25 and $11.25 for Delvac 1300S. At 9,000 miles the Mobil 1 still cost $25 but the Delvac now cost $33.75. Throw in the extra two filters you needed to buy for the changes with Delvac and the Mobil 1 cost -$22.75. Lets assume I'm really good at my oil changes and manage in an hour flat, I bill for around $25/hr, at 9,000 miles the Mobil 1 has saved me now a total of $72.75. Now in this example lets assume we've used a whole 3 pack of oil analysis kits to prove we can go 9,000 miles, Mobil 1 is now only ahead $17.75 Thats real money back in your pocket, but in truth I'm not so worried about the money, its the satisfaction in not spending that extra hour every other month. Sure I like working on the car, but not extra work I don't need to do. -Curt Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:15:31 GMT From: Glenn M. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] I hate to start another oil thread . . . To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain I was only trying to point out what I feel is a financial advantage of using Delvac 1300S vs. Mobil M1 synthetic oil in one's MB diesel. Depending on an independent study being done to verify an appropriate oil change interval for each of these oils and the fact that MB diesel automobiles have had a lengthy reputation for longevity and long before the advent of synthetic motor oils. The cold start benefit would also need to be independently quantified (15W vs. 0W, rather questionable in my view), as well as timing chain stretch. The prices for these oils at the local Advance Auto Parts: Mobil M1 $19.88/gal. Delvac 1300S $ 8.98/gal.I was only trying to provide a very good alternative for those who may be frugally minded, as the last I knew there isn't any guarantee which comes wih the purchase of M1.G. M. Brown Rochester, NY __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 17 02:39:04 2006 Received: from web32802.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.32]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gvlvb-7p-Ue for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:39:04 + Received: (qmail 95601 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Dec 2006 02:36:32 - X-YMail-OSG: aRmeThYVM1mp4oqDJDX7lfWvzHAKfgJcyNImsu0qonEO8oLuaDHWh7l0m2mcxlRi7.Uk1I8dpz4sFobSnWrEUEkt0a9l0.DHrm6Eh09hR8FdMYw6OKDSHSOn6ZEr2tqHc95NhOZizwZ.pbM- Received: from [63.209.233.131] by web32802.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 18:36:32 PST Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 18:36:32 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] I hate to start another oil thread . . . X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:39:04 - One last thing, get yourself a quart of Mobil 1 15w50 (I won't even sandbag with 0w40), chill it down to -20F, compare it to some conventional 15w40 at the same temp. The conventional oil is now grease, the Mobil 1 is still oil. Theres your independant verification, cold starts with Mobil 1 ARE easier because the oil flows easier. Been there, done that, got a merit badge in making a stubborn 240D start in the cold. -Curt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 17 03:19:32 2006 Received: from web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.41]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GvmYm-00014U-27 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 03:19:32 + Received: (qmail 64561 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Dec
Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:51:44 -0800 Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: I'm presently without power, and may be for some time, due to recent wind storm activity. My generator blew up my surge protector, so I'm running my DSL modem off of the battery from my van, and using our laptop w/wireless. I strongly suspect our generator is malfunctioning and pumping an unregulated voltage supply, which unfortunately blows stuff up. Is there an external voltage rectifying unit I can purchase which will avoid this situation so it doesn't keep happening every time I fire up the generator? The power just came on up here on Marrowstone. This is what I was looking at http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=LE1200# Lots of interesting specs, but they're missing the important ones. Like, what input voltage range gives what output voltage range? The idea is a good one, though. Craig
Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes
Craig McCluskey wrote: http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=LE1200# Lots of interesting specs, but they're missing the important ones. Like, what input voltage range gives what output voltage range? It sort of does here: http://sturgeon.apcc.com/techref.nsf/partnum/990-1286A/$FILE/990-1286A_EN_REV01.pdf
Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:31:26 -0800 David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=LE1200# Lots of interesting specs, but they're missing the important ones. Like, what input voltage range gives what output voltage range? It sort of does here: http://sturgeon.apcc.com/techref.nsf/partnum/990-1286A/$FILE/990-1286A_EN_REV01.pdf Well, so it does: === Input Voltage Range 80 - 130V (Selector Switch set to 110V) 85 - 140V (Selector Switch set to 120V) 90 - 150V (Selector Switch set to 127V) Maximum Input Voltage 250V Output Regulation +6 to -12% === These sound pretty good. Something indeed worth looking at. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Cool camper but...
on 12/16/06 10:17 PM, Curt Raymond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/249038554.html How is it I know that the story on that one starts with Well it doesn't run but... LOL well at least it comes with its own traffic cones, to lessen the chances of impacts while parked at the roadside Mac
Re: [MBZ] Golden Age? Finding 80s Autos (now heading into a rant)
on 12/16/06 4:56 PM, David Brodbeck at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve MacSween wrote: Now I see your comment on US cars and raise you by the experience of our local taxi fleets. For a long time the (verrry cheap) owners purchased whichever US car was cheapest to get at the time (mainly Luminas and Malibus and Transport/Montana minivans). Here they all use surplus cop cars. Wait until gas prices spike again and tell me if that changes. They use mostly Vics in Ottawa, but around here it's semi-rural and the drivers won't stand for the fuel costs in the Fords. mac
Re: [MBZ] Golden Age? Finding 80s Autos
on 12/16/06 2:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for Quebec salt, well I hear our Canadian brothers and sisters use fine wine and cheese in their salt mix. Huh. They've contracted out a lot of winter roads stuff here, so actually getting salt on your car some days is a bit of a novelty. My favourite was the winter of 2003, when we had an unpredicted flash ice storm on a Saturday AM that caught the contractor by surprise. I wrote off my Volvo 740 Turbo that morning, ended up on the lawn of the police station actually. Anyway, they only hire the best clowns to drive the salt/plow trucks. The first guy who takes a run up the two-lane highway running out of town loses it and ends up in a field. The next clown thinks he can pull his cuz out and ends up pointing at the sky in the ditch, effectively closing the highway for about three hours while they fish them out. The irony being, that traffic was moving ok until the salt trucks arrived. Mac
Re: [MBZ] Golden Age? Finding 80s Autos (now heading into a rant)
Oh yes, I know. My cronies and I, growing up, used to laugh at the performance of the cop cars and a few of us were fortunate enough to be able to honestly brag about outrunning them. (outrunning was the easy part, outcornering a bit more difficult, and of course, outrunning the Motorola or the whirlybird, near impossible). I know cop cars aren't performance cars. I was just making a comment on taxi drivers and how any extra shred of horsepower entrusted them is a scary thing. When my wife and I took a cab from the Seattle airport recently, I noticed that the driver was falling asleep behind the wheel as a cozy sunbeam shone in the window around dusk as he took us down the freeway. With the severe communication barrier, one wonders how they pass the driving test to get even their basic personal drivers licence. David wrote: A Crown Vic Police Interceptor is not really a performance car. It's got basically the same engine as a V-8 Mustang and considerably more weight.
Re: [MBZ] Golden Age? Finding 80s Autos (now heading into a rant)
That's true. Another visual cue is the rear sway bar. Or maybe all full-sized American cars come with rear sway bars now. It used to be a real rarity. The size and profile of the tires is another indicator. And aluminum wheels are not often found on a cop car, nor are wheel-covers (as opposed to hub caps). I notice now that the wheels on cop cars are a unique design that has an offset that has the wheel center farther toward the outboard. And they don't have any hubcaps, just a center cap if I recall correctly. Often when trying to determine whether the Crown Vic in the distance is a cop, I look for any clue possible, such as the visual profile of the driver, and whether there are any objects resting on the rear deck or dashboard (as in regular people junk). The cues are many. Also, it seems you'll never see a Mercury cop car. Chris wrote: A visual cue to the police package is the dual exhaust. So there are some small hardware differences.
Re: [MBZ] CC handle
Roger wrote:it's the best design and easiest to use of all of them Ditto! After trying Chrysler, GM and Ford, the MB is by far the easiest to use - and the one on my 15 yr old MB works perfectly like it were brand new - it engages instantly holds the speed exactly with no drifting. as far as needing to reach around the steering wheel to operate the arm - for me I can reach it with my fingertips just like the turnsignals. The buttons on the steering wheel pad gave me the most trouble finding them in the dark - and the most odd part to other CC systems are needing to turn them *on* - geez - if I'm driving, the CC should be turned on only needing to be set to start working. I have no idea why so many system have a ON/OFF switch. It took a few minutes to memorize the 4 commands to use with the CC stalk - but pushing it up momentarily is really the only important command. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CC handle controls were still on the directional stalkjust like they were in, like, 1968 on my dad's Delta 88. Are not MB's cruise controls also still the same since they were introduced? Sure they are, and it's the best design and easiest to use of all of them. No on switch to find or buttons to press. Just a touch with the left index finger or thumb. The GM and Ford designs are awful. Of course, the Consumer Reports testers always have trouble, confusing the turn signal switch with the CC handle. RLE/Seattle. two power outages, two days apart. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.21/589 - Release Date: 12/15/2006
Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes
kevin kraly wrote: My wife has one of these UPS systems with bad batteries, so it's a good thing we're still hangin' onto it. It looks like the unit will have to be split to get to the batteries. Look for #1 or #2 phillips head screws in the bottom of the case. Some of the APCs even have battery doors. If it's twelve volt, you can just put a spare group 49 from your mbz next to it and wire it up. That'll really extend your runtime. Mitch.
[MBZ] New wagon
So I picked up Zedic's '87 300TD yesterday in Toronto and drove it back to Detroit. Trip went well. I think I'm going to like this vehicle. The 3.0L is quite different than the 2.5L in my '90 124. No noticeable turbo like the 2.5. Jeff left me with a number of unfinished suspension jobs but provided most of the new parts. Should ride like new when I'm done. Good job for the x-mas break. Time to off load the two parts wagons! Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 17 16:46:11 2006 Received: from alnrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.225.94]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gvz9O-0002uF-Tu for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:46:11 + Received: from hannah (c-68-61-93-29.hsd1.mi.comcast.net[68.61.93.29]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc14) with SMTP id 20061217164329b1400miaf3e; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:43:29 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:43:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: [MBZ] 124 blower motor. X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:46:11 - The cirping crickets in the '90 124 have gotton almost unbearable at low blower motor speed. Not noticeable at high speed. So it's either high speed or off these days. How does one access this unit. I've heard it is through the cowl screen on the engine side of the firewall. Is this correct and how easy is it? Can the bearing be fixed or lubed or is a new assy required. Any help would be appreciated. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 17 16:56:03 2006 Received: from twisp.olympus.net ([65.117.224.70]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GvzIx-0003Ad-B0 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:56:03 + Received: from LoricaMail on twisp.olympus.net ([172.21.2.56] helo=twisp.olympus.net) by twisp.olympus.net with esmtp (Exim 4.60) id 1GvzGS-0006uL-JU for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 08:53:28 -0800 Received: from tuk-dsl-228-190.olympus.net ([65.117.228.190]:1063 helo=ASUS-A7V400.olympus.net) by twisp.olympus.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.60) id 1GvzGF-0006qT-0k for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 08:53:15 -0800 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 08:52:48 -0800 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com From: Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Virtual-Service: OlympusNet X-Exim-Id: 1GvzGF-0006qT-0k X-Olympus-MailID-CF: 1GvzGF-0006qT-0kDec17085315rPj X-Olympus-Virus: Scanned X-Olympus-OlympusNetMail: Initial processing complete X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marrowstone Island X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:56:04 - We've been here for 30 years, we might know them. Our place in on the south end in the middle of the Isl. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:30:45 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Marrowstone Island To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes
My apologies for no signature, I must have been overwhelmed with joy to be shutting the generator down:-) Google turned up several of those units and that was one of the least expensive. I wanted one without the UPS, just something too make sure the power is cleaned up before getting to my transfer switch. Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor Message: 12 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:54:38 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:51:44 -0800 Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: I'm presently without power, and may be for some time, due to recent wind storm activity. My generator blew up my surge protector, so I'm running my DSL modem off of the battery from my van, and using our laptop w/wireless. I strongly suspect our generator is malfunctioning and pumping an unregulated voltage supply, which unfortunately blows stuff up. Is there an external voltage rectifying unit I can purchase which will avoid this situation so it doesn't keep happening every time I fire up the generator? The power just came on up here on Marrowstone. This is what I was looking at http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=LE1200# Lots of interesting specs, but they're missing the important ones. Like, what input voltage range gives what output voltage range? The idea is a good one, though. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Cool camper but...
I like the shag carpet on the dash and floor and console and ceiling and seats and --R Curt Raymond wrote: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/249038554.html How is it I know that the story on that one starts with Well it doesn't run but... -Curt
Re: [MBZ] I hate to start another oil thread . . .
Curt/Marshall, I never intended this to be a peein' contest with creative math as, without pre-oil analyses confirmation, one cannot do a proper comparison and besides I'm on empty so my peein' is over on this subject . . . I guess I'll have to reconsider how helpful I may be in the future. G. M. Brown Rochester, NY
Re: [MBZ] 124 blower motor.
I had mine replaced last summer - I just wasn't up to doing it myself - anyway, the windshield wiper assy must be removed and the windshield trim underneath it next. The fan assy is below the W wiper. I'm told it can be difficult removing the fans from the motor. The new motor can be bought with or without fans so the old ones can be re-used if desired. A new motor with fans is a little over $210 while without fans the motor is around $135. from Rusty. Here's some instructions for replacing the fan -- http://www.mercedesshop.com/Wikka/W124BlowerMotor Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:43 AM Subject: [MBZ] 124 blower motor. The cirping crickets in the '90 124 have gotton almost unbearable at low blower motor speed. Not noticeable at high speed. So it's either high speed or off these days. How does one access this unit. I've heard it is through the cowl screen on the engine side of the firewall. Is this correct and how easy is it? Can the bearing be fixed or lubed or is a new assy required. Any help would be appreciated. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.22/590 - Release Date: 12/16/2006
Re: [MBZ] O.T. GM in Dark Ages
It was really nice there...a little windy yesterday. Hung out near the high school/Palm Canyon Drive. Watched my daughter in a Christmas show. Had the strongest margarita in my life at a place called Mariposa on Palm Canyon drive. Mercy. Bob R - Original Message - From: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. GM in Dark Ages You bringing your parka and raingear? It's cold and windy here. (relative to the Northwest, of course!) On 12/16/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How in the world can GM still have cruise controls on the directional stalk? I rented a Grand Prix to drive to Palm Springs today (I actually thought I was getting a Ford Fusion...and I originally was going to drive the 300D but a leaky new radiator changed my mind) and I was amazed to find the cruise controls were still on the directional stalkjust like they were in, like, 1968 on my dad's Delta 88. No wonder they are quickly becoming T.U. Bob Rentfro ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. GM in Dark Ages
Nothing, I suppose...I just thought that everyone was going to the controls on the steering wheel. I lead a very sheltered life. Bob R - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. GM in Dark Ages I guess I dont see whats wrong with having the cruise controls on the turn signal Bob Rentfro wrote: How in the world can GM still have cruise controls on the directional stalk? I rented a Grand Prix to drive to Palm Springs today (I actually thought I was getting a Ford Fusion...and I originally was going to drive the 300D but a leaky new radiator changed my mind) and I was amazed to find the cruise controls were still on the directional stalkjust like they were in, like, 1968 on my dad's Delta 88. No wonder they are quickly becoming T.U. Bob Rentfro ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New wagon
Congratulations on your new purchase! I hope that it works out well. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 265K miles, Ursula
[MBZ] Wow
http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/car/250290450.html So what sort of gas mileage should somebody expect from something like a '72 280SE? Fun to drive? The pics look good, he wants alot but it *could* be worth it. Newton is a pretty spendy place... Well parts of it are anyway. -Curt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 17 22:44:26 2006 Received: from web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.42]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gw4k4-0003uR-35 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:44:24 + Received: (qmail 545 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Dec 2006 22:41:47 - X-YMail-OSG: C943SqcVM1kdpm4BxEFZfZjDEQJUwiS41ZRKpUssfZLtXAQbJbLMa8kTSYzjGgxLllStXucFQlpswfVacn0jtsQL7qfcyrwsJe3bmRQ9detlk4EsI01JOhnIpPDDRRL3ekh4yrsdBMDTJI8- Received: from [63.209.227.225] by web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:41:47 PST Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:41:47 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: [MBZ] BWWAAA HAHAHAHA X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:44:26 - http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/250255584.html Minor cosmetic rust __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 17 23:17:58 2006 Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net ([69.17.117.8]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gw5GY-0004uX-4y for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 23:17:58 + Received: (qmail 3105 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2006 23:15:20 - Received: from dsl081-164-043.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO ringbill.gull.us) ([64.81.164.43]) (envelope-sender [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for mercedes@okiebenz.com; 17 Dec 2006 23:15:20 - Received: from osprey ([192.168.1.4]) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtp (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1Gw5Dx-000BC2-2Z for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:15:19 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:15:16 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060911) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 23:17:58 - Mitch Haley wrote: kevin kraly wrote: My wife has one of these UPS systems with bad batteries, so it's a good thing we're still hangin' onto it. It looks like the unit will have to be split to get to the batteries. Look for #1 or #2 phillips head screws in the bottom of the case. Some of the APCs even have battery doors. On the smaller APCs the battery door is usually on the bottom. On the bigger units it's sometimes behind the front bezel, especially on rack-mount ones. Getting the old battery out can be a chore because they tend to swell up when they fail. Small ones generally have a single 12-volt gel cell battery or two 6-volt ones in series. Bigger ones sometimes run higher voltages. A 3 kVA rack-mount one we had
Re: [MBZ] New wagon
How was your experience at US Customs. Hope they treated you well. On 12/17/06, Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I picked up Zedic's '87 300TD yesterday in Toronto and drove it back to Detroit. Trip went well. I think I'm going to like this vehicle. The 3.0Lis quite different than the 2.5L in my '90 124. No noticeable turbo like the 2.5. Jeff left me with a number of unfinished suspension jobs but provided most of the new parts. Should ride like new when I'm done. Good job for the x-mas break. Time to off load the two parts wagons! Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Golden Age? Finding 80s Autos (now heading into a rant)
Zoltan Finks wrote: That's true. Another visual cue is the rear sway bar. Or maybe all full-sized American cars come with rear sway bars now. It used to be a real rarity. All Crown Vics after a certain year have a Watt's link to locate the rear axle.(Older ones have a Panhard rod.) Dunno if the sway bar is always there, though. The cop cars have a stiffer spring rate and handle pretty well for a big car, although you're always aware of the amount of mass you're pushing around. I notice now that the wheels on cop cars are a unique design that has an offset that has the wheel center farther toward the outboard. And they don't have any hubcaps, just a center cap if I recall correctly. Yeah, the big, black 16 wheels appeared some time after 2000, I think. After the style change to the big Grand Marquis grille the cop cars usually got a blacked-out grille instead of chrome, as well. Of course, the tricky bit is that all of this stuff is optional; it all depends on what boxes were checked on the order form. The only way to be absolutely sure whether a car was ordered as a police package model is to look at the VIN. Often when trying to determine whether the Crown Vic in the distance is a cop, I look for any clue possible, such as the visual profile of the driver, and whether there are any objects resting on the rear deck or dashboard (as in regular people junk). The cues are many. A partition between the front and rear seats is a dead giveaway. So is an exempt or state-government license plate. Also, it seems you'll never see a Mercury cop car. Unless it's unmarked! Then all bets are off. Heck, I've seen people pulled over by cops in pickup trucks.
Re: [MBZ] New wagon
That should have been an interrogative, as in How was your experience at US Customs? bad me! On 12/17/06, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How was your experience at US Customs. Hope they treated you well. On 12/17/06, Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I picked up Zedic's '87 300TD yesterday in Toronto and drove it back to Detroit. Trip went well. I think I'm going to like this vehicle. The 3.0L is quite different than the 2.5L in my '90 124. No noticeable turbo like the 2.5. Jeff left me with a number of unfinished suspension jobs but provided most of the new parts. Should ride like new when I'm done. Good job for the x-mas break. Time to off load the two parts wagons! Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD
Re: [MBZ] CC handle
LarryT wrote: I have no idea why so many system have a ON/OFF switch. I can think of two possibilities: - As a safety to prevent accidental engagement, and resulting lawsuits. - As a backup to allow disengaging the system if the brake pedal switch fails.
Re: [MBZ] Golden Age? Finding 80s Autos (now heading into a rant)
Don't count on picking out cops by car in Alabama. Around here, you are just as likely to be pulled over by a SUV. The police in Tuscaloosa are running around in Mercedes M class some of the State Troopers are running around in Ford Exploders. Then they have a range of other undercover cars. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 5:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Golden Age? Finding 80s Autos (now heading into a rant) Zoltan Finks wrote: That's true. Another visual cue is the rear sway bar. Or maybe all full-sized American cars come with rear sway bars now. It used to be a real rarity. All Crown Vics after a certain year have a Watt's link to locate the rear axle.(Older ones have a Panhard rod.) Dunno if the sway bar is always there, though. The cop cars have a stiffer spring rate and handle pretty well for a big car, although you're always aware of the amount of mass you're pushing around. I notice now that the wheels on cop cars are a unique design that has an offset that has the wheel center farther toward the outboard. And they don't have any hubcaps, just a center cap if I recall correctly. Yeah, the big, black 16 wheels appeared some time after 2000, I think. After the style change to the big Grand Marquis grille the cop cars usually got a blacked-out grille instead of chrome, as well. Of course, the tricky bit is that all of this stuff is optional; it all depends on what boxes were checked on the order form. The only way to be absolutely sure whether a car was ordered as a police package model is to look at the VIN. Often when trying to determine whether the Crown Vic in the distance is a cop, I look for any clue possible, such as the visual profile of the driver, and whether there are any objects resting on the rear deck or dashboard (as in regular people junk). The cues are many. A partition between the front and rear seats is a dead giveaway. So is an exempt or state-government license plate. Also, it seems you'll never see a Mercury cop car. Unless it's unmarked! Then all bets are off. Heck, I've seen people pulled over by cops in pickup trucks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
