Re: [MBZ] Apple

[Gary Hurst]

no, dude, i'm in florida.  it's a pretty delicate negotiation, actually, as
she doesn't want the dog but wants to retain rights to the dog.  she sold
the dog as a puppy to an insane woman who apparently kept it in a tiny crate
and starved it.  she then "liberated" the dog, but he is an intact male so
he and his dad just want to fight all the time.

her thought is to give me the dog, but retain rights to breed him and show
him. i'm ok with that, but she doesn't have clear title to the dog as far as
i can tell, the ownership papers listing her, her daughter and the crazed
woman as the owners.  i'd rather not end up having to explain to my near 10
year old how the police came and took our dog because he  wasn't even
remotely close to being our dog according to the law.

the dog is sweet as can be, but he's still close enough to being a wild
animal to have cause for worry.  i'm not so much worried about him around me
and abby as they are fiercely devoted to their "packmates", but i will have
to get him to understand that when the neighbors pair of irish setters come
over to visit us, that he needs to view them as beloved family friends and
not as potential dangerous interlopers who need to be attacked and driven
off.  i'm not sure how well a semi feral pariah dog can grasp these
concepts.  i mean, even human beings can't really get away from "hey, they
are different than us. let's kill them!" so what can we expect from an
almost wild dog?

i think i'm going to borrow him for a couple of weeks soon to see how it
goes.

as for bribes, it really is amazing how well they work.  white protestant
man seems to have an undue disdain for this sort of thing as most anything
is possible when you shake a fella's hand with a 20 dollar bill in it,
especially among dudes making 8 bucks an hour and having 3 of that taken
from them by the government for no reason anyone can discern beyond them
being big, bad and heavily armed.  (don't you think they'd prefer buying
food for their families with that money rather than funding another big war
and calling it "social security"?


On 12/23/06, Chris Kueny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I don't think I would take a bribe, but a tribute, well, how could I
resist?
Didja get the dog?

Chris K
Cayce, SC

- Original Message -
From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apple


i bought my pc at a gateway store.  i went there out of desperation after
2
comp;uters from costco failed out of the box and the only thing i could do
was call india and talk to a fellow who had no clue what i was saying.

the gateway store was dismal.  dirty. disorganized.   the sales staff was
unhappy and unhelpful.  the tech guys were bewildered and overwhelmed
trying
to keep the junk working.

so i explained my situation to one of the tech guys, about how all i was
looking for was someone to actually fix any problem that should arise out
of
the box.  he then explained how they were weeks if not months behind and
that it wouldn't be likely that gateway would be any help to me either.  i
then explained that he has mistaken me for those other bastards and that i
would gladly pay him a tribute to move to the front of the line. i was
assured his immediate personal attention, so i bought a gateway.

I imagine that apple stores are not quite like this, huh?




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Re: [MBZ] Power Plant generators

[Jim Cathey]

station is the startup.  When a new power plant is ready to join the
electrical grid which can cover several states IIRC the power has to be
brought on line to the grid slowly or the existing power in the grid 
will
"grab" the new generator and cause it to spin  up to speed equal to 
the grid

and damage it - or something like that.  I've probably scrambled the
explanation -- perhaps someone has a better explanation?


Clash of the Titans.  The new generator must be carefully synchronized
with the power grid it's joining or Bad Things will happen.  For a nice
automotive analogy, imagine driving a stickshift car that has no clutch,
nor even synchros.  It _can_ be done, just like porcupine reproduction.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Apple

[Chris Kueny]

I don't think I would take a bribe, but a tribute, well, how could I resist? 
Didja get the dog?


Chris K
Cayce, SC

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apple


i bought my pc at a gateway store.  i went there out of desperation after 2
comp;uters from costco failed out of the box and the only thing i could do
was call india and talk to a fellow who had no clue what i was saying.

the gateway store was dismal.  dirty. disorganized.   the sales staff was
unhappy and unhelpful.  the tech guys were bewildered and overwhelmed trying
to keep the junk working.

so i explained my situation to one of the tech guys, about how all i was
looking for was someone to actually fix any problem that should arise out of
the box.  he then explained how they were weeks if not months behind and
that it wouldn't be likely that gateway would be any help to me either.  i
then explained that he has mistaken me for those other bastards and that i
would gladly pay him a tribute to move to the front of the line. i was
assured his immediate personal attention, so i bought a gateway.

I imagine that apple stores are not quite like this, huh?

Re: [MBZ] Apple

[Gary Hurst]

i bought my pc at a gateway store.  i went there out of desperation after 2
comp;uters from costco failed out of the box and the only thing i could do
was call india and talk to a fellow who had no clue what i was saying.

the gateway store was dismal.  dirty. disorganized.   the sales staff was
unhappy and unhelpful.  the tech guys were bewildered and overwhelmed trying
to keep the junk working.

so i explained my situation to one of the tech guys, about how all i was
looking for was someone to actually fix any problem that should arise out of
the box.  he then explained how they were weeks if not months behind and
that it wouldn't be likely that gateway would be any help to me either.  i
then explained that he has mistaken me for those other bastards and that i
would gladly pay him a tribute to move to the front of the line. i was
assured his immediate personal attention, so i bought a gateway.

I imagine that apple stores are not quite like this, huh?


On 12/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Apple Computer has shown people will gladly part with money at its candy
stores for geeks.

But here's a little-known fact: Apple's chic stores don't just sell more
per
square foot than even Best Buy, they beat some of the best in the luxury
retail world silly, according to a report released Tuesday by Bernstein
Research
analyst Toni Sacconaghi.

Apple's stores have hauled in annual sales per square foot of $4,032,
compared with Best Buy's $930, Neiman Marcus' $611, and luxury store
Tiffany & Co.'s
$2,666, according to Bernstein.

It's a wild contrast to the failure of Apple rivals such as Gateway to
break
into the retail market.

Apple's recipeworks like crack. Apple gives customers instant
gratification
by keeping inventory in stores, unlike its rivals. Apple has opened its
stores
slowly, building up anticipation for its stores. Finally, those stores are
some of the toniest in retail—encouraging customers to drop far more money
than
they might in a dusty computer shop or utilitarian web site.

"This may be as much an indicator that Apple's store placement is better
than Tiffany's," Enderle Group analyst Rob Enderle said.

Apple's success comes despite Gateway's retail disaster. When Apple pushed
into retail in 2001 Gateway had just shut down 10 percent of its Gateway
Country Stores. Gateway closed the last of its stores in 2004.

By contrast, Apple, known for its premium products, has successfully
pushed a
higher-margin business while other computer makers have duked it out over
razor-thin margins. Apple stores, on average under 6,000 square feet, each
bring
in more than $23 million in annual sales, according to the Bernstein
report.
That compares with annual sales per store of $38 million at Best Buy,
which has
stores about seven times larger.

"If you're measuring a store in terms of production per store, that's
pretty
impressive," Mr. Enderle said. "That should be a wakeup for Best Buy."

Apple's stellar store sales are also in sharp contrast to Circuit City
Stores, which reported a loss Tuesday, and Best Buy, which last week
reported profit
weaker than expected.

It might not come as much of a surprise that Best Buy's sales team of blue
shirts is moving significantly lower sales per square foot than Apple's
salespeople. Plus, it certainly can't hurt to have stores such as its
Fifth Avenue
Gallery store in New York City look more like a small museum designed in
the form
of a glass box. That attracts people alone.

Indeed, Mr. Sacconaghi said that Apple's retail stores have played a
significant part in Apple's success over the past five years.

"Our research points to Apple stores having boosted revenue and margins
over
the last five years, although perhaps not to the degree that many
investors
may realize, as our analysis point to share shifts from indirect sales,
rather
than incremental share gains," wrote Sacconaghi.

The analyst said Apple retail stores also had an influence on brand
awareness. That brand awareness is equivalent to $60 million spent on
advertising, he
noted.

Apple has 170 retail locations in four countries. The Mac maker has about
150
U.S. locations.

"Apple has taken a more measured approach to store openings, with roughly
half as many [as Gateway] after five years, and chose to locate its stores
in
high-visibility, high-traffic (and high-rent) locations," Mr. Sacconaghi
noted.

In retrospect, Apple's strategy was very different from that of rival
Gateway. Gateway retail stores were each generating about $8 million in
annual sales,
compared with Apple's $23 million per store. Gateway went gangbusters on
store openings, expanding into 300 stores in five years.

"Gateway forgot the primary retail lesson: location, location, location,"
Mr. Enderle said.

In fiscal 2006, Apple's retail operations kicked in $200 million in
operating
profit, as well as $663 million in manufacturing product linked to Apple
products sold.

"Apple's retail strategy has also been profitable, ev

Re: [MBZ] Power Plant generators

[LarryT]

One of the more interesting aspects of nukes as well as any new power 
station is the startup.  When a new power plant is ready to join the 
electrical grid which can cover several states IIRC the power has to be 
brought on line to the grid slowly or the existing power in the grid will 
"grab" the new generator and cause it to spin  up to speed equal to the grid 
and damage it - or something like that.  I've probably scrambled the 
explanation -- perhaps someone has a better explanation?


I was on the team finishing one of the last nuke units to be completed - in 
1984 or so, I was part of the team that was "Scheduling" the completion of 
the paper work needed to allow startup to begin and continue - we took up 4 
double wides with desks pretty well crammed in - all those people - around 
120 IIRC creating schedules showing how each final piece of paper - which 
usually representated some inspection or other and followed the steps needed 
to move from person to person or team to team getting signatures.  It was a 
massive amount of paperwork (and a massive cost) which was frustrating 
because a delay in one document delayed many others - and in those days we 
didn't have PCs on every desk - we used McDonald-Douglas mainframes to 
update the computerized schedules and see how far behind we were ;-)


Nowadays people worry about the transport of waste nuke material traveling 
to waste receptacles - the containers they're in are so unbelievably 
strong - watched a video showing a tractor trailer with a container on it 
being hit by a train going 60mph - not even a whiff of radioactivity 
escaped.  *I* was impressed.  ;-)


Sorry for the ramblings - some times it just pours out.
;-)
Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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- Original Message - 
From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 3:59 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Power Plant generators



Not only do modern power plants need emergency gen sets, most are designed
so that so that they need grid power to start up.  There have been many
instances where the grid failed, and a single plant tried to carry the 
load
which was too much, then tripped off the line and went stone cold 
dark/dead
until the grid came back up.  Feed pumps, lights, instrumentation, etc. 
all
need power from somewhere *before* a plant can make stream and start its 
own
generators.  So Nukes typically have an on-site back up power system, so 
as

to be able to keep the lights and pumps on when the grid fails.

Werner

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)



They're for safe plant shutdown after a loss of off site power to protect
the health and safety of the public
sound offical?

Bob R.

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)



Our emergency diesel generators out at the old nuke plant are V20.
Wicked


Emergency generators at a power-plant Isn't that an oxymoron? LOL
Rick Knoble

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[MBZ] cincinnati CL benzes

[Sunil Hari]

300E - http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/252073933.html


220D - http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/252918823.html

email if you want me to check it out.
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Re: [MBZ] smooooth

[RELNGSON]

> < parts/power/smoothness.  A V6 comes close, but needs a balance shaft to be as 
> smooth.  Now an 
> in-line 6 is very smooth, but that comes at the cost of longer and heavier.  
> For simplicity and reliability, its hard to beat a 4-banger, but then 
> smoothness goes out the window.>>
> 
MBs V-6s use one chain driven balance shaft which results in a vibration free 
engine. My Porsche's 2.5L four cylinder uses two belt driven balance shafts 
bolted tp the outside of the engine (thank you, Lanchester 1912) and is very 
smooth. On the other hand. Lycoming's four-cylinder IO-360 (6 liters and no 
balance shafts) vibrates like a paint-shaker at certain rpms.

RLE

[MBZ] Apple

[RELNGSON]

Apple Computer has shown people will gladly part with money at its candy 
stores for geeks.

But here’s a little-known fact: Apple’s chic stores don’t just sell more per 
square foot than even Best Buy, they beat some of the best in the luxury 
retail world silly, according to a report released Tuesday by Bernstein 
Research 
analyst Toni Sacconaghi.

Apple’s stores have hauled in annual sales per square foot of $4,032, 
compared with Best Buy’s $930, Neiman Marcus’ $611, and luxury store Tiffany & 
Co.’s 
$2,666, according to Bernstein.

It’s a wild contrast to the failure of Apple rivals such as Gateway to break 
into the retail market.

Apple’s recipe works like crack. Apple gives customers instant gratification 
by keeping inventory in stores, unlike its rivals. Apple has opened its stores 
slowly, building up anticipation for its stores. Finally, those stores are 
some of the toniest in retail—encouraging customers to drop far more money than 
they might in a dusty computer shop or utilitarian web site.

“This may be as much an indicator that Apple’s store placement is better 
than Tiffany’s,” Enderle Group analyst Rob Enderle said.

Apple’s success comes despite Gateway’s retail disaster. When Apple pushed 
into retail in 2001 Gateway had just shut down 10 percent of its Gateway 
Country Stores. Gateway closed the last of its stores in 2004.

By contrast, Apple, known for its premium products, has successfully pushed a 
higher-margin business while other computer makers have duked it out over 
razor-thin margins. Apple stores, on average under 6,000 square feet, each 
bring 
in more than $23 million in annual sales, according to the Bernstein report. 
That compares with annual sales per store of $38 million at Best Buy, which has 
stores about seven times larger.   

“If you’re measuring a store in terms of production per store, that’s pretty 
impressive,” Mr. Enderle said. “That should be a wakeup for Best Buy.”

Apple’s stellar store sales are also in sharp contrast to Circuit City 
Stores, which reported a loss Tuesday, and Best Buy, which last week reported 
profit 
weaker than expected.  

It might not come as much of a surprise that Best Buy’s sales team of blue 
shirts is moving significantly lower sales per square foot than Apple’s 
salespeople. Plus, it certainly can’t hurt to have stores such as its Fifth 
Avenue 
Gallery store in New York City look more like a small museum designed in the 
form 
of a glass box. That attracts people alone.

Indeed, Mr. Sacconaghi said that Apple’s retail stores have played a 
significant part in Apple’s success over the past five years.

“Our research points to Apple stores having boosted revenue and margins over 
the last five years, although perhaps not to the degree that many investors 
may realize, as our analysis point to share shifts from indirect sales, rather 
than incremental share gains,” wrote Sacconaghi.

The analyst said Apple retail stores also had an influence on brand 
awareness. That brand awareness is equivalent to $60 million spent on 
advertising, he 
noted.

Apple has 170 retail locations in four countries. The Mac maker has about 150 
U.S. locations.

“Apple has taken a more measured approach to store openings, with roughly 
half as many [as Gateway] after five years, and chose to locate its stores in 
high-visibility, high-traffic (and high-rent) locations,” Mr. Sacconaghi noted.

In retrospect, Apple’s strategy was very different from that of rival 
Gateway. Gateway retail stores were each generating about $8 million in annual 
sales, 
compared with Apple’s $23 million per store. Gateway went gangbusters on 
store openings, expanding into 300 stores in five years.

“Gateway forgot the primary retail lesson: location, location, location,” 
Mr. Enderle said.

In fiscal 2006, Apple’s retail operations kicked in $200 million in operating 
profit, as well as $663 million in manufacturing product linked to Apple 
products sold.

“Apple’s retail strategy has also been profitable, even as it has been 
undergoing rapid growth,” wrote Mr. Sacconaghi.

Gateway stores were somewhat of an oddity. They carried laptops, desktops, 
and monitors that people could check out in the store. The merchandise, 
however, 
couldn’t be purchased on the spot. The Country Stores carried no inventory 
and customers would have to wait days for computers to be delivered. To the 
impulse buyer it was a buzz kill.

[MBZ] 1993 190E2.3 --- 2 issues

[kok.hong]

Hi all,

I need help on the above car and had been friutless.

a) when car is cold, I had difficulty in starting.  if the temperatures
dropped to 40F or low, I had to try as many as 7 cranks before it
could run.  And during summer, it takes 3 times to crank it.
--- usually after the 3rd crank (in the cold) it would run only for
2 seconds before it died.  So, as I crank more times, it last a
little bit longer.  Condition of battery is 2 year old, car has 112K
miles on it and is garaged.  Once it runs/idles well, I have no
more problem in starting again.  But when cold, it starts all over
again.

b) recently I did replaced the original radio with a in-dash CD.
I had sound on the left side speakers but very low or no sound
on the right side speakers.  I did crossed the wires from the radio
(left out) to right speakers and no sound, but right out to left speakers
I do have sound.  How can I resolve this problem?

Thanks for your help
K.S.
'90 560SEL
'93 190E2.3
'99 E320 4matic

[MBZ] Power Plant generators

[Werner Fehlauer]

Not only do modern power plants need emergency gen sets, most are designed 
so that so that they need grid power to start up.  There have been many 
instances where the grid failed, and a single plant tried to carry the load 
which was too much, then tripped off the line and went stone cold dark/dead 
until the grid came back up.  Feed pumps, lights, instrumentation, etc. all 
need power from somewhere *before* a plant can make stream and start its own 
generators.  So Nukes typically have an on-site back up power system, so as 
to be able to keep the lights and pumps on when the grid fails.


Werner

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)



They're for safe plant shutdown after a loss of off site power to protect
the health and safety of the public
sound offical?

Bob R.

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)



Our emergency diesel generators out at the old nuke plant are V20.
Wicked


Emergency generators at a power-plant Isn't that an oxymoron? LOL
Rick Knoble
. 

Re: [MBZ] Wive's Preferences

[ts]

Dwight Said:
You're the second person to comment on New England thinking about my post-I
have to confess-I am not a native New Englander-I am from Pennsylvania-in
fact I spent 3 years on your area-attending Penn State. But you're right it
is certain logic-we all have our flaws/obsessions and we need to just deal
with them.  In the 36 years we have been married I have had eight
antique/vintage/collector  cars and trucks, including the 79 240D which I
used as daily driver of 500 miles a week the first 3 1/2 years I had it. I
also learned not to ask her to go to old car shows-esp. when I would spend a
week at Hershey and Carlisle shows in the fall. Hope you get the 220D-I am
envious.

Dwight I am a transplanted Pennsylvanian.  Been here 15 years now.  Thanks
for the good wishes, and Penn State has grown immensely since the animal house
days when you went there.  Now if you drink they arrest you, the bar tender, 
and the
brewery who sold the beer.

Regards Tom


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To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wive's Preferences


> Thanks Tom, but,
> 
> You're the second person to comment on New England thinking about my post-I
> have to confess-I am not a native New Englander-I am from Pennsylvania-in
> fact I spent 3 years on your area-attending Penn State. But you're right it
> is certain logic-we all have our flaws/obsessions and we need to just deal
> with them.  In the 36 years we have been married I have had eight
> antique/vintage/collector  cars and trucks, including the 79 240D which I
> used as daily driver of 500 miles a week the first 3 1/2 years I had it. I
> also learned not to ask her to go to old car shows-esp. when I would spend a
> week at Hershey and Carlisle shows in the fall. Hope you get the 220D-I am
> envious.
> 
> 
> 
> Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
> 
> Bissell Cove
> 
> Wickford RI 02852
> 
> 1979 240D
> 
> 1990 300D 2.5t
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "My secret is the lesser of evils-36 years when first married I told my wife
> 
> that some men chase home young women-others bring old cars home. Consider
> 
> herself lucky. Worked."
> 
> 
> 
> Dwight that is good old Yankee reasoning if I ever heard it/Tom
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Re: [MBZ] Door seals

[kevin kraly]

My 06 Dodge pickup is the same way as is my parents' 06 Chevy HHR.  You have 
to either open a window or slam the door with EVERYTHING YOU'VE GOT!!


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula 

[MBZ] B1 gear up

[wilton strickland]

Did I miss a B1 gear up landing?  Where?  When?

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Sun visor clip?

[John Freer]

Found the female pieces on Ebay in the right color for about 6 bucks.

On 12/23/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The local stealership charged me $22.00 each for them Friday -- they
did comment that they had gone up from $15.00 last time he sold some.

>
> I get them from the dealer. I don't think there is any other source.
> About $6 each last time I got them (I think).
>
> Marshall

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Re: [MBZ] Sun visor clip?

[OK Don]

The local stealership charged me $22.00 each for them Friday -- they
did comment that they had gone up from $15.00 last time he sold some.



I get them from the dealer. I don't think there is any other source.
About $6 each last time I got them (I think).

Marshall


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

[Bob Rentfro]

They're for safe plant shutdown after a loss of off site power to protect 
the health and safety of the public

sound offical?

Bob R.

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Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)



Our emergency diesel generators out at the old nuke plant are V20.
Wicked


Emergency generators at a power-plant Isn't that an oxymoron? LOL
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] Sun visor clip?

[Chuck Landenberger]

Richard,

Back when I had my 116 300SD, I got them from a dealer.  I recall  
they had hole in center and were attached by small screw...  Does the  
sunvisor clip in horizontally (push forward) or vertically (push  
up)??   Maybe someone w/EPC can locate the part no...


HTH and All the Best of the Christmas Season to all.

Chuck
Phoenix, but w/family in Hawaii.


On Dec 23, 2006, at 7:06 AM, John W. Reames III wrote:


On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Richard Smith wrote:

I need to buy a couple of sunvisor clips for my 87 300D. Does  
anyone know

where I can get them for a resonable price?


Rusty or pgauto would be my best bets. (www.pgauto.com i think)
-j.



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Re: [MBZ] Sun visor clip?

[Marshall Booth]

Richard Smith wrote:

I need to buy a couple of sunvisor clips for my 87 300D. Does anyone know
where I can get them for a resonable price?



I get them from the dealer. I don't think there is any other source. 
About $6 each last time I got them (I think).


Marshall
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[MBZ] [OT] dental surgery (was: 190D pics)

[John W. Reames III]

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, John M McIntosh wrote:
> Mmm I didn't get mine, however all I recall was the dentist who had  
> hands the size of  dinner plates, one of which he wrapped around the  
> top of my head and pop, pop, pulled the top two in 10 seconds or less.

I was graciously unconscious when i had all 4 third molars out (at once.. 
on dec 23rd some years back).. apparently they had to do a lot of work as 
mine were all horizontally impacted below the gumline. not a one came out 
in one piece, I awoke with a sewn shut jaw (I coupld pass a level teaspoon 
into it)... Some years later I noticed curious zig-zag scars on the 
insides of my cheeks that go from the corners of my mouth all the way 
round to the back

Feh!

I hope to NEVER have any dental surgery again! 

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Convertible

[John W. Reames III]

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Luther wrote:

> I'd rather fit a OM603 into an SL chassis.  I love the coupe and all, but a 
> diesel SL would be light years more fun:D

I think that if I were going to go to all that work I would see about 
fitting a mechanically controlled IP with a proper ALDA onto a 
turbocharged OM606 and shoehorning a holset and big intercooler in there 
(a la www.teamrwd.com -- they are psychotic. 425hp OM606!)

http://www.teamrwd.com/dieselboost/

http://www.teamrwd.com/dieselboost/300_24.php

If you can shoehorn it into a 190E 



-j.

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

[Rick Knoble]

Our emergency diesel generators out at the old nuke plant are V20.
Wicked


Emergency generators at a power-plant Isn't that an oxymoron? LOL
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD

'87 190 DT

Re: [MBZ] Sun visor clip?

[John W. Reames III]

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Richard Smith wrote:

> I need to buy a couple of sunvisor clips for my 87 300D. Does anyone know
> where I can get them for a resonable price?

Rusty or pgauto would be my best bets. (www.pgauto.com i think)
-j.

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

[Bob Rentfro]

Our emergency diesel generators out at the old nuke plant are V20.
Wicked

Bob R


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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 2:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)


I'm betting you're right there, maybe I mistaken the Caddy for the 
Lincoln. Maybe that was something of a rumor that Lincoln was going to 
make a V16, but instead had a V12


Harry
69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles
72 350SL   118,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata


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Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)


Harry,
Sorry-I didn't make my point clear-according to Wikipedia, Cadillac did 
make

the V-16 but Lincoln did not as I earlier stated incorrectly.I recall
seeing Cadillac v-16's but not Lincolns.  Here is the link again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_V16_engine

Dwight

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852
-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

I beg to differ on that one, in 1930 Caddilac had a V16 called the Dual
Windshield Sport Phaeton. It had a 452 cid engine that made 165 hp with a 
3

speed tranny. It was made built from 1930 to 1931 and cost $5,500 to
$10,000. Lincoln had a V12 before the V16 and it was built in 1932 as
Lincolns answer to the V16 Caddy. That one was called the Lincoln KB that
had a 7.34 liter V12 that made 150 hp with a 3 speed.

Harry
69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles
72 350SL   118,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)


Not according to Wikipedia-see my earlier post

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

Lincoln made a V16 in 1931 or 1933 I believe and Caddy made one too

Harry
69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles
72 350SL   118,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata


-Original Message-
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Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)


I forgot about the older stuff.  I was thinking of the Cizetta in
particular:
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2887200950074456788cssOBd
It was interesting.  Looked a lot like a Lambo, but had like 12 headlights
or some such odd thing.  Like 6 of them were pop-up units.

Levi

On 12/22/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Lincoln made a v-16, late 30's I think.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

Depends on the size of the V12.  If you're merely talking cylinders then 
I

know there's a V-16.  I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out
there
as well.  And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet!  (:

Levi

On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is there anything bigger than a V12?
>
> On 12/21/06, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with
a
> > V12
> >
> > Wasn't the original S600 (W140) more like 6,000#?
> >
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 190D pics

[Bob Rentfro]

Mercy.the next line on that story should be either:
"I then took two shots of whiskey, climbed on my trusty steed and rode of 
into the sunset"

or
"I then grabbed my rifle, ran back to the front line, and kicked some Nazi 
arse."


Bob R

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics




On Dec 22, 2006, at 8:10 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:



They gave me all 4 teeth in a little baggie.


Mmm I didn't get mine, however all I recall was the dentist who had
hands the size of  dinner plates, one of which he wrapped around the
top of my head and pop, pop, pulled the top two in 10 seconds or less.


John
1983 300TDt  374k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990's 300TDt  175k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 185k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)



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Re: [MBZ] considering brake repair....

[Marshall Booth]

Loren Faeth wrote:
Nothing tricky if you have bled brakes before.  I'd replace the hoses, 
flush out the fluid and consider using silicone fluid.  I know the purists 
will flame me for the heresy.  I have silicone in 3 or 4 MBs for 5-6 years 
with no problems or complaints.  If you  use DOT4 fluid, be sure you don't 
put DOT3 garbage in it.  Do it yourself and put $1000 in your wallet.  Then 
use it to take SWMBO out.   She will love you for it and you will have the 
change in your pocket.


Silicone fluid is great for racing and other specialty applications 
where the system is routinely maintained VERY frequently. DO NOT USE 
silicone fluid in any car with ABS. The ABS pulsations cause "air" 
bubbles to form! That's the primary reason for the prohibition to using 
silicone fluid in Mercedes, but if you DO use silicone fluid in a 
Mercedes, the system will need to be flushed much more frequently than 
with conventional fluid as the silicone fluid won't bind with water and 
the water that accumulates will need to be removed by flushing the 
system (or the lines will rust from the inside out).


No question that DOT IV or IV+ fluid is superior to DOT III fluid. As to 
mixing DOT III with DOT IV fluids, there will be few problems, but the 
mix will have characteristics closer to III than to IV and you'll need 
to change the fluid more frequently than you would if using pure IV. 
Boiling temp will be lowered to very close to the boiling point of III 
as will with tendency to sequester water. If you use III or a mix of III 
and IV, change the fluid at least every year. IV can go at least 2 years 
between flushes.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Convertible

[Tony Wirtel]

I'd rather fit a OM603 into an SL chassis.  I love the coupe and all, but a 
diesel SL would be light years more fun:D

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:46:09 -0600, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> http://tinyurl.com/y6ego7


whitewalls!

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

[mykd1]

I'm betting you're right there, maybe I mistaken the Caddy for the Lincoln. 
Maybe that was something of a rumor that Lincoln was going to make a V16, but 
instead had a V12 
 
Harry
69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles
72 350SL   118,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)


Harry,
Sorry-I didn't make my point clear-according to Wikipedia, Cadillac did make
the V-16 but Lincoln did not as I earlier stated incorrectly.I recall
seeing Cadillac v-16's but not Lincolns.  Here is the link again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_V16_engine 

Dwight

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 5:00 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

I beg to differ on that one, in 1930 Caddilac had a V16 called the Dual
Windshield Sport Phaeton. It had a 452 cid engine that made 165 hp with a 3
speed tranny. It was made built from 1930 to 1931 and cost $5,500 to
$10,000. Lincoln had a V12 before the V16 and it was built in 1932 as
Lincolns answer to the V16 Caddy. That one was called the Lincoln KB that
had a 7.34 liter V12 that made 150 hp with a 3 speed.  
 
Harry
69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles
72 350SL   118,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)


Not according to Wikipedia-see my earlier post

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

Lincoln made a V16 in 1931 or 1933 I believe and Caddy made one too  
 
Harry
69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles
72 350SL   118,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)


I forgot about the older stuff.  I was thinking of the Cizetta in
particular:
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2887200950074456788cssOBd
It was interesting.  Looked a lot like a Lambo, but had like 12 headlights
or some such odd thing.  Like 6 of them were pop-up units.

Levi

On 12/22/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Lincoln made a v-16, late 30's I think.
>
> Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
> Bissell Cove
> Wickford RI 02852
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Levi Smith
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:29 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)
>
> Depends on the size of the V12.  If you're merely talking cylinders then I
> know there's a V-16.  I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out
> there
> as well.  And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet!  (:
>
> Levi
>
> On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Is there anything bigger than a V12?
> >
> > On 12/21/06, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with
> a
> > > V12
> > >
> > > Wasn't the original S600 (W140) more like 6,000#?
> > >
> > > Mitch.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 190D pics

[John M McIntosh]

On Dec 22, 2006, at 8:10 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:



They gave me all 4 teeth in a little baggie.


Mmm I didn't get mine, however all I recall was the dentist who had  
hands the size of  dinner plates, one of which he wrapped around the  
top of my head and pop, pop, pulled the top two in 10 seconds or less.



John
1983 300TDt  374k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990's 300TDt  175k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 185k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:24:31 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  
> In a message dated 11/29/2006 5:26:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Mercedes@okiebenz.com
> 
> 
> Four Blizzaks on my 83 300D are super on ice or snow.  I used to put 
> 200 lbs  of roofing shingles in my trunk for the winter, but with the
> Blizzaks  and no  extra weight it is much, much better.  I CAN GO WHERE
> NO MB  COULD GO BEFORE!

I was going to get Nokian Hakkapeliitas, but the only tire shop in New
Mexico (in Taos, 66.1 miles away from Los Alamos) didn't have any in
195/70-14, so I got Nokian WRs. Also labelled with a mountain/snow flake
symbol, but touted as 4 season so the treadlife is longer.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Door seals

[David Brodbeck]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> <> latch fully. I attribute this to the quality of sealing around the doors.>>
>>
>> 
> Just like a '50s VW beetle.
>   

Reminds me of my Westfalia camper...it was nearly impossible to raise or
lower the pop-up roof unless you opened a door or window first.

Re: [MBZ] snow tires

[Mnetzky1]

 
In a message dated 11/29/2006 5:26:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Mercedes@okiebenz.com


Four Blizzaks on my 83 300D are super on ice or snow.  I used to put  200 lbs 
of roofing shingles in my trunk for the winter, but with the Blizzaks  and no 
extra weight it is much, much better.  I CAN GO WHERE NO MB  COULD GO BEFORE!
 
Mike N

Re: [MBZ] 190D pics

[LarryT]

It's amazing how our bodies change as we age - Abd how fragile we really 
are -  I never had allergies until a few years ago and now I have them bad 
enough to require medication - the disease that disabled me struck ~10 years 
ago and antibodies in my blood are attcking the mylin covering on my 
nerves - causing the signals normally sent to the brain to be confused - now 
my feet are numb except for the intense pain caused by the nerves 
themselves - To look at my feet you'd see no injury, but when I scream in 
pain the pain is very real.


Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics



It's odd...I used to be able to do all the stuff...all the crazy rides at
Six flags for example, reading or playing cribbage in the back of the van 
on
the way to work. Then all of a sudden, I can't ride rides, I can't read in 
a

moving car, I have to sit in the front seat...and all this happend almost
overnight about 5 or six years ago. Wicked motion sickness baby puss.

Bob R


- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics




Another thing for me to be thankful of, I am decidedly not a hurler...
I'd swallowed a bunch of blood at some point in having my wisdom teeth
out. My stomach objected.
Other than that I rarely yawn in technicolor.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:36:44 -0700
From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

I'm a "hurler" as the recovery nurse called me as I was coming to after
having my shoulder repaired. I was yacking every where.
Stopped several times on the way home to blow. When I had a hernia
repaired,
Dr. put some wicked dramimine type patch on me before they knocked me
out
and I yacked not upon coming to. I had to wear the patch for four days.
Hopefully they can patch me when they hack out my choppers...

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Wive's Preferences

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Thanks Tom, but,

You're the second person to comment on New England thinking about my post-I
have to confess-I am not a native New Englander-I am from Pennsylvania-in
fact I spent 3 years on your area-attending Penn State. But you're right it
is certain logic-we all have our flaws/obsessions and we need to just deal
with them.  In the 36 years we have been married I have had eight
antique/vintage/collector  cars and trucks, including the 79 240D which I
used as daily driver of 500 miles a week the first 3 1/2 years I had it. I
also learned not to ask her to go to old car shows-esp. when I would spend a
week at Hershey and Carlisle shows in the fall. Hope you get the 220D-I am
envious.

 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.

Bissell Cove

Wickford RI 02852

1979 240D

1990 300D 2.5t

 

 

"My secret is the lesser of evils-36 years when first married I told my wife

that some men chase home young women-others bring old cars home. Consider

herself lucky. Worked."

 

Dwight that is good old Yankee reasoning if I ever heard it/Tom

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Convertible

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

I was trying to figure out the zeroes-wonder if it refers to options?  I
don't ordinarily hang around Barrett auctions.  Well maybe Babbsie likes the
open air diesel smell and noise-might remind her of New York. (No flames _I
lived in NYC for three years and loved it.)

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852
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http://tinyurl.com/y6ego7

Wow, a 200hp, zero cylinder 300CD. 
Barrett's must not be experts on 617 engines. 
I wonder if the part about "only two made, Babbsie has
the other one" is true.


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