[MBZ] crackhead of the day

2007-01-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader
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Jesus, Mary and Joesph
I bet the price is in scientific notation..

Bob R


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Subject: [MBZ] 1955 Gullwing - Apparently Found in Barn?


 http://www.astonmartin-lotus.com/inventory/index.php?page_functionÞtailproduct_idP5

 I'm afraid to even call and ask  any one want to lay odds and take
 bets on the number of zeros?

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Re: [MBZ] 220D doors

2007-01-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I bought a rear door from a 68 115 years ago to
replace  the  crashed one on my 73 220D.  The
replacement door was far off.  It was not even close
to fitting.  Don't  know why.  Still have the damaged
door on the car ten years later.  I'll end up just
repairing it when I get a chance.
Dimitri
   
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 Not to compete with our faithful list father, but I
 snagged some 
 114/115 doors today.  Anybody need one?  Cover
 shipping and call it 
 good.  Have the trunk lid too.
 
 I am intending to source some parts from these
 filthy things, but if 
 you need the sheet metal parts, I am happy to ship
 on your dime. UPS 
 Ground.
 
 
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 Clay
 Seattle Bioburner
 
 1972 220D - Gump
 1995 E300D - Cleo
 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
 The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices?

2007-01-06 Thread OK Don

Diesel - $2.36, Unleaded 87 - $2.00 this eveing in OKC.

On 1/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

$2.49/gal this morning (Gasmart in VA, US15, just south of the Potomac)
-j.


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Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 14, Issue 37

2007-01-06 Thread Royce Engler
Tom said

Detonation occurs in the combustion chamber, opposite the spark plug. As
the
flame front burns across the chamber, heat  pressure builds up until the
remaining gas explodes. With higher compression, you already have more
stored heat in the charge, making detonation more likely. Higher octane gas
burns slower than lower octane gas, reducing the pressure  heat. This
allows you to run higher compression.

When I read this, I had a BFO (Blinding Flash of the OBVIOUS).  Part of my
life was spent working as a petroleum engineer and during that time I had to
learn all about the components of petroleum.  Octane is the component of
petroleum that has 8 carbon atoms.  The comment that higher octane gas burns
slower than lower octane gas caused the BFO...I had always associated higher
octane with higher energy and mistakenly equated that with more light ends.
It never occurred to me that increasing the octane percentage (octane
content) would result in more power.  It's true that it has higher energy
content because of the increased percentage of carbon, but the increase in
heavier components makes it less volatile overall.  A lower octane content
suggests that the lower carbon number components (methane, ethane, butane,
propane, pentane, hexane, and heptane) would make up a higher percentage of
the mix, hence making it more likely to detonate rather than burn smoothly
across the chamber.  In essence you are adding a heavier component to make
it burn slower to reduce the problem of detonation.

I know I'm a little wierd, but as an engineer, discovering that little gem
of logic made my day GRIN

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 293K







Re: [MBZ] crackhead of the day

2007-01-06 Thread kevin kraly

Geez, it's not even worth his starting bid!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula



Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate

2007-01-06 Thread OK Don

So, where and how do you get this email of the build record?



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Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
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Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices?

2007-01-06 Thread Chuck Landenberger
FWIW, on my last evening in Hawaii, the price of RUG is now $2.81.   
Immediately went up from $2.70 after the Tax Relief Law expired..


Diesel is $3.44 ..

Hope that makes everyone feel better...The good news is that  
it is Beautiful in Hawaii..


Take care,

Chuck
Back to Phoenix tomorrow


On Jan 5, 2007, at 4:52 PM, OK Don wrote:


Diesel - $2.36, Unleaded 87 - $2.00 this eveing in OKC.

On 1/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
$2.49/gal this morning (Gasmart in VA, US15, just south of the  
Potomac)

-j.


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Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate

2007-01-06 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Don - its been a while since I did it, but I'd start with the MBUSA/Classic 
folks.  Either web or call Irvine -


Werner
'83SD, '90D

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So, where and how do you get this email of the build record?



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Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager





Re: [MBZ] RSS feeds and Craigslist

2007-01-06 Thread OK Don

I second SharpReader - after trying several others.

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Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager



Re: [MBZ] Abbreviations

2007-01-06 Thread OK Don

Very good - thanks.

I thought that FUBAR ended with 'recognition, so I looked it up in
wikipedia (not authoritative, but is fun), and was not disappointed.
Both are right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUBAR

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Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager



Re: [MBZ] Manual Transmission Conversion Kit For Sale Cheap

2007-01-06 Thread OK Don

Hmmm -- will a 240D flywheel bolt to cast iron 117 engine's crank?

On 1/5/07, Richard Hattaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a 4 speed transmission, clutch, flywheel, flywheel bolts,
pressure plate, pedal hardware, shift linkage, and long drive shaft
sitting under my workbench.  Parts are from a 240D.  It's a great start
in the process of converting from an automatic to a manual.  If anybody
is interested in it, I will part with it for $100 as the garage now
MUST be cleaned out.  Please drop me an email at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and lets discuss.  I am only interested in
local pickup.  I cannot ship it, or at least cannot ship it for any
reasonable shipping fees, as I would have to take it to a boxer and
that cannot be cheap.

Lets find it a home and supplement my fishing hobby account.

Richard
Salisbury NC


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Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager



Re: [MBZ] What does pink tranny fluid mean?

2007-01-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Way back I had the problem and changed out the radiator.  Flushed it 
like I said and it never came back, but of course I wasnt driving it 
either.  When it first happend I thought it was either somehow getting 
rainwater in (via dipstick tube o ring or something) or radiator.  Went 
ahead and changed out the radiator and told myself that if it did happen 
again it must be rainwater.  In any case, however its getting in there 
it would cause the level to get too high and drip.  I would flush it 
again and if it comes back and it has NOT been raining, then it has to 
be the radiator.  If so, let me know, I have one I can send you.


John Robbins wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Its water.  I had that problem when I first got that car so I swapped 
out the radiator.  Took quite a while and several fluid changes/flushed 
but got it all cleaned out. Its got to be either leaking again from the 
radiator or rainwater is somehow getting in.  In any case, if it turns 
out to be the radiator let me know I have another one.
 


It could very well be rainwater...  of the 10 hour drive back from your 
place about 7 hours of it was in rain.  The tranny would puke about a 
quart or two of fluid after it was driven anywhere...   and only when 
the car was off.  If the car was on it would only drip occasionally.  It 
looked like a bad pan gasket, but did you see similar symptoms from the 
water? 



Anything else I need to know??  ;) 



On a side note...  I knew the cruise didn't work, but thought it was 
electrical like 99% of all cruise problems are.  Didn't think to check 
if the cruise actuator was actually there... its not.  Did it not get 
put back on after the head gasket was changed?  Either way... you got 
any actuators?I need a second one for a project as well... 


Thanks!
John

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Re: [MBZ] RSS feeds and Craigslist

2007-01-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

do tell

Rory wrote:


Does anyone use a RSS reader to scan the craigslist postings for Mercedes
cars?
If not I have a cool way of doing it through Google.

Rory
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Re: [MBZ] crackhead of the day

2007-01-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

check out his feedback

kevin kraly wrote:


Geez, it's not even worth his starting bid!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula

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 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] Removing Corroded Bleed Valves

2007-01-06 Thread OK Don

I had a bleeder valve collapse, then break off a long time ago -
probably on my '51 VW bug, but I don't remember for sure. I removed
the cylinder, and a good one, found the appropraite drill bit, and
drilled out the offending valve. A dental pick then removed what was
left of the threads, and a new valve went in just fine (after a very
good cleaning).

I also spend way too much time proving that I can fix it   like 3
years on the SLC!

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Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
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Re: [MBZ] Manual Transmission Conversion Kit For Sale Cheap

2007-01-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

no

OK Don wrote:


Hmmm -- will a 240D flywheel bolt to cast iron 117 engine's crank?

On 1/5/07, Richard Hattaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have a 4 speed transmission, clutch, flywheel, flywheel bolts,
pressure plate, pedal hardware, shift linkage, and long drive shaft
sitting under my workbench.  Parts are from a 240D.  It's a great start
in the process of converting from an automatic to a manual.  If anybody
is interested in it, I will part with it for $100 as the garage now
MUST be cleaned out.  Please drop me an email at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and lets discuss.  I am only interested in
local pickup.  I cannot ship it, or at least cannot ship it for any
reasonable shipping fees, as I would have to take it to a boxer and
that cannot be cheap.

Lets find it a home and supplement my fishing hobby account.

Richard
Salisbury NC





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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] Manual Transmission Conversion Kit For Sale Cheap

2007-01-06 Thread OK Don

Good - just saved me a lot of work.

On 1/5/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

no

OK Don wrote:

 Hmmm -- will a 240D flywheel bolt to cast iron 117 engine's crank?




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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager



Re: [MBZ] Electric Vacuum pump

2007-01-06 Thread OK Don

So - do  you have one? And while you're looking, do you have a fuel
level sender for a 240D and/or a 107?

On 1/4/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yup. Or for anything else for that matter - it just has to suck a lot!

On 1/4/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You mean from a later car that has electric pump for the door locks?




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Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager



[MBZ] Emoticons and such

2007-01-06 Thread RELNGSON
 Below is a list of acronyms used extensively on this list and other
 
Please tell me you are not going to post all this monthly.

RLE




Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1

2007-01-06 Thread John W. Reames III
YMMV on pumping, two winters ago SWMBO decided to pump while trying to 
start and no dice. (She didnt kill the battery, just got annoyed). I 
followed the procedure in the manual and joyfyul happyness.
-j.





Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1

2007-01-06 Thread Zoltan Finks

Yup. I know pumping is bad - my foot just wants to do it. I'ts like, come
on, baby, you can do it!

Yes, starting is an emotional thing with me ;) - nothing worse to me than
the sound of the starter running slower and slower. Need to get over it - I
know.

Brian


On 1/5/07, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


YMMV on pumping, two winters ago SWMBO decided to pump while trying to
start and no dice. (She didnt kill the battery, just got annoyed). I
followed the procedure in the manual and joyfyul happyness.
-j.



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Re: [MBZ] RSS feeds and Craigslist

2007-01-06 Thread Ed Booher

On 1/5/07, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone use a RSS reader to scan the craigslist postings for Mercedes
cars?
If not I have a cool way of doing it through Google.

Rory


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Re: [MBZ] Monovalve insert

2007-01-06 Thread Jim Cathey
Of the three washers sitting on top of the monovalve insert shaft, I 
had lost the 1st one in '96 but all seemed to work OK with just the 
wavy steel washer and the wide, thick washer on top.  When I recently 
replaced the monovalve insert, I found a thin washer to place on 1st 
and on top of this placed the wavy steel washer and a wide thick 
stainless washer.  The top seemed to sit on flush with the monovalve 
housing prior to installing/tightening the four screws.  Results - 
heat only in defrost mode, all other settings heat would disppear 
suggesting...


Remember that the monovalve is a PWM device, and needs to move back
and forth up to about once a second (or a bit slower).  If the 'wrong'
washer business screws up its mechanical response time, either due to
sapping magnetic field or due to locating the guts of the monovalve
incorrectly, you could well get a valve that doesn't work right for
PWM but can let coolant through when completely unpowered (as it is
for DEFROST).

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Adblue/Bluetec question

2007-01-06 Thread Jim Cathey
BTW I was never in front of the guy, just behind, following at a 
polite distance, and as soon as there was a lane change the odor 
lessened. It totally dissapeared when the truck took an exit.


I usually only notice that when following a stock truck.  There are also
folks who pee into drain tubes that poke out the floor of the rig.  That
gets all over the underside.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] crackhead of the day

2007-01-06 Thread Hendrik Riessen

Ahh come on Kaleb it's a Deisel.

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Subject: [MBZ] crackhead of the day



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Re: [MBZ] compression ratio 300SL

2007-01-06 Thread mykd1
even though continued use of regular may not damage your engine, it will damage 
the cats 
 
Harry
69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles
72 350SL   118,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
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James Zavesky wrote:
 I'll bring in E320's from time to time and irregardless if it's a small 6, 8
 or 12 cylinder they all ping when run on back to back tanks of regular. We
 alternate tanks between Shell premium and super with no ill effects on all
 the cars. knocking is non existant. Won't run regualr as I don't want to
 spend $1600 for a pair of MAS air flow sensors.

While I don't doubt that regular fuel can cause damage to that engine, I
doubt the airflow sensors are going to be the victims.  They don't see
any gas, just air.


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Re: [MBZ] compression ratio 300SL

2007-01-06 Thread mykd1
compression ratio isn't the only factor for running premium fuel. besides motor 
cycles aren't required to have emission controls 
 
Harry
69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles
72 350SL   118,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] compression ratio 300SL


TimothyPilgrim wrote:
 Funny, my motorcycle (1999 Honda CBR1100XX) has a ratio of 11:1 and it
 runs on RUG-87. It also Compression ratio can't be the only factor in
 determining octane rating required.
   

Modern electronic ignition and fuel injection have allowed manufacturers
to run higher compression with the same octane ratings without knock. 
Most modern engines have knock sensors and run right on the edge of
pinging all the time, with the ECU dialing back the ignition advance
when it sees the first signs of it.


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Re: [MBZ] Removing Corroded Bleed Valves

2007-01-06 Thread Mitch Haley
When a GOOD six point socket, applied after a few solid smacks with
a hammer, won't do it, you find the largest drill bit that will go
in the hole, ream the dirt out of the inside of the bleeder with it,
then turn it around and shove it into the bleeder shank first.
Now you can't smoosh it flat with your Vise Grips. I capitalized
that because it's a brand name. China Grips work for lots of things,
but not this. If it won't turn with the twist drill, penetrating oil,
and vise grips, you take the caliper off, remove the pistons, clean
out the fluid, and heat to a dull red glow around the bleeder.
Squirt a little water in the bleeder, reapply drill bit and
vise grips, and remove. If that doesn't work, either go to the
drill press or the parts store. If you take the drill press option,
use left hand bits and hope it backs itself out before you've drilled
the threads out of the caliper. After you've drilled the threads
out of the caliper, drill and tap it for a bleeder replacement kit.

The alternative to all the above is to leave the bleeder in place,
take the caliper loose, turn it so the hose fitting is on top,
stick three pads in it and bleed it by loosening the hose fitting. 

Another alternative is to flush/bleed annually, and replace the
bleeders every ten years, with a little Nevr-Seize on the threads.

Mitch.




Re: [MBZ] Adblkue/Bluetec question

2007-01-06 Thread Mitch Haley


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The latest trick is to throw these pee bombs at cars for things
 like 1. Just being on the road, 

It happened to me 10 years ago. I was standing outside the car,
on the shoulder, with the hood wrapped around the windshield and a
dead deer behind me. It missed me, fortunately. I didn't even see
which car it came from. If it had hit me and I had a working car,
I would have simply run whatever car was fleeing from me into the
ditch at 100mph. 

Mitch.




Re: [MBZ] Adblkue/Bluetec question

2007-01-06 Thread ts
Mitch sorry to hear about your mishap.  A car threw it at you.....  that 
is bad enough but when so called professionals driving 100,000 lbs like a 
Porsche 911 are doing it
that is double sad.  I take it you were not hurt from your dear impact, 
probably not true of you car?  As for chasing anyone down with my 4 banger 
non turbo 240d, well it is just not a good road rage car.
Today with the machines on the road it is like matching a ww1 Sopworth Camel 
against the ww2 P-51 Mustang.


Regards Tom
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The latest trick is to throw these pee bombs at cars for things
like 1. Just being on the road,


It happened to me 10 years ago. I was standing outside the car,
on the shoulder, with the hood wrapped around the windshield and a
dead deer behind me. It missed me, fortunately. I didn't even see
which car it came from. If it had hit me and I had a working car,
I would have simply run whatever car was fleeing from me into the
ditch at 100mph.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Removing Corroded Bleed Valves

2007-01-06 Thread LarryT
Thanks Mitch - that trick with the drill bit may be worth a try!   
I certainly have plenty of old ones I can use.


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When a GOOD six point socket, applied after a few solid smacks with
a hammer, won't do it, you find the largest drill bit that will go
in the hole, ream the dirt out of the inside of the bleeder with it,
then turn it around and shove it into the bleeder shank first.
Now you can't smoosh it flat with your Vise Grips. I capitalized
that because it's a brand name. China Grips work for lots of things,
but not this. If it won't turn with the twist drill, penetrating oil,
and vise grips, you take the caliper off, remove the pistons, clean
out the fluid, and heat to a dull red glow around the bleeder.
Squirt a little water in the bleeder, reapply drill bit and
vise grips, and remove. If that doesn't work, either go to the
drill press or the parts store. If you take the drill press option,
use left hand bits and hope it backs itself out before you've drilled
the threads out of the caliper. After you've drilled the threads
out of the caliper, drill and tap it for a bleeder replacement kit.

The alternative to all the above is to leave the bleeder in place,
take the caliper loose, turn it so the hose fitting is on top,
stick three pads in it and bleed it by loosening the hose fitting. 


Another alternative is to flush/bleed annually, and replace the
bleeders every ten years, with a little Nevr-Seize on the threads.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Adblkue/Bluetec question

2007-01-06 Thread LarryT

Chuck wrote about removing bird droppings  ::This should be done as soon
as possible after discovery.  

   I always heard bird droppings and dead insects contained acids that 
damaged the paint.  Don't know if that's true or not but they're much harder 
to remove once they've baked on for a few days.


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j,

The preferred method for removing avian waste deposits from one's
car is to place wet paper towels over the area letting the water
soften said deposit.  After a while (duration unknown), lightly
wipe the area and repeat as necessary.  This should be done as soon
as possible after discovery.  Never scrub!

If the area has discolored, then you probably waited too long before
doing the above.   If you are in a freeze zone, then use hot water
and reduce the while time so the paper towel does not freeze to the
paint surface.
[SNIP] 





Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 14, Issue 37

2007-01-06 Thread LarryT

You wrote about octane and detonation:
making it more likely to detonate rather than burn smoothly
across the chamber.  In essence you are adding a heavier component to make
it burn slower to reduce the problem of detonation

Hi Royce,
   Is that your way of saying the higher octane detonates later and 
therefore closer to the time when the piston reaches TDC - or almost? - 
I'm assuming TDC is the best place to ignite the mixture for max HP and 
other ignition points are preferable if lower emissions, etc are the 
objective?


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Tom said


Detonation occurs in the combustion chamber, opposite the spark plug. As

the

flame front burns across the chamber, heat  pressure builds up until the
remaining gas explodes. With higher compression, you already have more
stored heat in the charge, making detonation more likely. Higher octane 
gas

burns slower than lower octane gas, reducing the pressure  heat. This
allows you to run higher compression.


When I read this, I had a BFO (Blinding Flash of the OBVIOUS).  Part of my
life was spent working as a petroleum engineer and during that time I had 
to

learn all about the components of petroleum.  Octane is the component of
petroleum that has 8 carbon atoms.  The comment that higher octane gas 
burns
slower than lower octane gas caused the BFO...I had always associated 
higher
octane with higher energy and mistakenly equated that with more light 
ends.

It never occurred to me that increasing the octane percentage (octane
content) would result in more power.  It's true that it has higher energy
content because of the increased percentage of carbon, but the increase in
heavier components makes it less volatile overall.  A lower octane 
content

suggests that the lower carbon number components (methane, ethane, butane,
propane, pentane, hexane, and heptane) would make up a higher percentage 
of

the mix, hence making it more likely to detonate rather than burn smoothly
across the chamber.  In essence you are adding a heavier component to make
it burn slower to reduce the problem of detonation.

I know I'm a little wierd, but as an engineer, discovering that little gem
of logic made my day GRIN

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 293K





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Re: [MBZ] Combustion

2007-01-06 Thread Jim Cathey

Is that your way of saying the higher octane detonates later and
therefore closer to the time when the piston reaches TDC - or almost? -


I thought he was saying it was that the higher octane fuel was harder
to burn, and therefore was less likely to start burning in the wrong
places.


I'm assuming TDC is the best place to ignite the mixture for max HP and
other ignition points are preferable if lower emissions, etc are the
objective?


I doubt it's really as simple as all that, in fact I'm sure it
is highly complex, and involves a bunch of potentially-conflicting
factors.  There is a pressure curve of the fuel burn, versus
the position of the piston and crankshaft, versus chamber shape,
versus clean-burn characteristics of the fuel charge, versus
the burn quality and speed in a varying volume, versus the optimum
force curve to extract the maximal amount of work from the burn...

If engineering waited for science we'd all still be walking!

-- Jim




[MBZ] Monovalve insert

2007-01-06 Thread Glenn M. Brown
Re:
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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:48:21 -0800
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 Of the three washers sitting on top of the monovalve insert shaft, I 
 had lost the 1st one in '96 but all seemed to work OK with just the 
 wavy steel washer and the wide, thick washer on top.  When I recently 
 replaced the monovalve insert, I found a thin washer to place on 1st 
 and on top of this placed the wavy steel washer and a wide thick 
 stainless washer.  The top seemed to sit on flush with the monovalve 
 housing prior to installing/tightening the four screws.  Results - 
 heat only in defrost mode, all other settings heat would disppear 
 suggesting...

Remember that the monovalve is a PWM device, and needs to move back
and forth up to about once a second (or a bit slower).  If the 'wrong'
washer business screws up its mechanical response time, either due to
sapping magnetic field or due to locating the guts of the monovalve
incorrectly, you could well get a valve that doesn't work right for
PWM but can let coolant through when completely unpowered (as it is
for DEFROST).

-- Jim?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office 
/

I just got back from taking the 300D for a ride to determine if the current 
washer combination on the monovalve insert would get me back to regulated heat 
(Note: The 1st washer replaces the original which I lost in '96 and is a thin 
one I found at Sears, the 2nd washer is the standard wavy steel washer which 
comes with the monovalve repair kit, and the top washer is the original thick, 
wide steel washer).  Viola, I've got regulated heat again.  The only problem 
here is trying to understand why.  You see, all was working OK with only the 
wavy steel washer and the original thick, wide steel washer on top prior to the 
crack/tear in the neoprene diaphragm of the monovalve.  Since the original 
thick, wide steel washer on top was somewhat corroded, I decided to replace 
this with a stainless washer when I replaced the monovalve insert, but this 
replacement stainless washer wasn't exactly the same size as the original.  
After installing the first thin washer, which I found at Sears, the wavy steel 
washer, and the stainless replacement washer with the new monovalve insert, I 
had no regulated heat on a trip from Pbgh. to Roch. and only had heat on the 
defrost setting.  I've now replaced the replacement stainless top washer with 
the original steel top washer which I POR-15nd*.  This combination appears to 
work and there doesn't seem to be any leaks at the housing even though the top 
doesn't sit flush (~1/16?) on the housing prior to tightening the four screws. 
 Here's the weird part:
 Thickness (mm)   ID (in.)   OD 
(in.)
Original 1st (bottom) washer?  ??
Wavy steel (middle) washer 0.45   3/4 1 1/4
Original 3rd (top) washer*2.45   5/8 1 1/2
Sears thin washer (1st repl.)1.12   5/8 1
Stainless top (repl.) washer 25/8 1 3/8
Prior to the crack/tear in the neoprene diaphragm of the previous monovalve, 
the washers in place total ~ 2.9mm and I had regulated heat prior to the 
neoprene diaphragm cracking/tearing.  After replacing the monovalve insert and 
using a different combination of washers totaling ~ 3.57mm, I had no regulated 
heat and only had heat on the defrost setting.  The current combination of 
washers installed total ~ 4.02mm and regulated heat appears to be functioning 
properly.  Go figure.
G. M. Brown
Rochester, NY


[MBZ] rusty turd

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As a general rule, to get the most power from the fuel ignition, the spark
must begin BEFORE TDC.  Retarding the spark to TDC or later makes the engine
run smooth, but with lots less power.  The idea is to get thefuel/air
mixture to ignite and start to burn, and thus build up pressure just before
the piston reaches TDC, and complete the combustion before it gets to the
end of the power stroke.  You do not want any un-burned fuel left as the
exhaust stroke begins.
Typically, spark ignition begins anywhere from 6 to 26 degrees BTDC.  One of
the reasons that Diesels don't have the initial zip of a gasser is that
the fuel won't ignite until the compressed air temp gets high enough, which
is a lot closer to TDC.
And the CDI engines get the full fuel burn and low emissions because they
use 4-5 pulses of very small spurts of fuel (some in fractions of
microseconds), first to start the burn, then to make some power, keep it
going, and burn all residuals - something mechanical IPs could never
accomplish.

Werner

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[MBZ] Old Benz in ads

2007-01-06 Thread Redghost

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ykyq4w

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yea4e9

might have to pay attention, some of the cars go by fast.

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1995 E300D - Cleo
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The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




[MBZ] Dakar Rally starts today

2007-01-06 Thread RELNGSON
Dakar Rally Begins January 6!

It's bad enough that OLN (formerly the Outdoor Life Network) has changed its 
name to Versus.” To add insult to injury, on the network's Web site it's 
easier to find an event called the Kingsford Barbecue Championships than it is 
to 
find the network's daily coverage of the grueling 2007 Dakar Rally. We'll save 
you the clicking and searching by providing this link to the daily TV 
schedule.
 For 2007, the event starts in Lisbon, Portugal, and winds its way through 
Morocco, Mauritania, Mali and Senegal, dodging deserts, bystanders, cattle and 
land-mines all the way.
Registration for the 2007 edition includes 250 motorcycles, 187 cars, and 80 
heavy trucks, with competitors from 42 different countries, including the U.S. 
This year's American entries include Chris Blais, who finished fourth overall 
in last year's rally. Blais is the only American representative of the 
offical works KTM/Red Bull team.

 • By Craig Fitzgerald

http://www.versus.com/nw/article/view/673/?UserDef=truecatID=76


Re: [MBZ] 220D doors

2007-01-06 Thread Redghost

Explain Grays?  Both wing windows are there


On Jan 4, 2007, at 10:40 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Not to compete with our faithful list father, but I snagged some
114/115 doors today.  Anybody need one?  Cover shipping and call it
good.  Have the trunk lid too.


Any wing-window grays?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 220D doors

2007-01-06 Thread Redghost

I do not have body, just the doors, no thresholds


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I need the plastic door threshold piece on driver and pass side (not 
on the

door but on the threshold)

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
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Not to compete with our faithful list father, but I snagged some
114/115 doors today.  Anybody need one?  Cover shipping and call it
good.  Have the trunk lid too.

I am intending to source some parts from these filthy things, but if
you need the sheet metal parts, I am happy to ship on your dime. UPS
Ground.


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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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Re: [MBZ] What?

2007-01-06 Thread RELNGSON
 even though continued use of regular may not damage your engine, it will 
 damage the cats
 
And just how?

RLE
 
 



Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1

2007-01-06 Thread David Brodbeck
Zoltan Finks wrote:
 Yup. I know pumping is bad - my foot just wants to do it. I'ts like, come
 on, baby, you can do it!

I've been known to talk to the car to try to coax it into starting.
Probably about as effective as pumping, and less wear on the throttle
linkage. ;)


Repeated pumping doesn't help a diesel at all, doesn't help a
fuel-injected car at all, and can actually be counterproductive on a car
with a carb.  (That shot of gas from the carburetor's accelerator pump
may, in moderation, help with cold starting, but repeated pumping is
more likely to just flood the thing.)

*One* pump before starting can be beneficial, though.  On Mercedes
diesels it's rumored to get the rack away from the stop position.  On
carbureted engines it often sets the high idle cam.  And on some early
throttle-body-injected Fords it calibrated the throttle position sensor.



Re: [MBZ] Dakar Rally starts today

2007-01-06 Thread David Brodbeck
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 Dakar Rally Begins January 6!

I've programmed my PVR.  Thanks for the reminder!




Re: [MBZ] 220D doors

2007-01-06 Thread Redghost
Might be body damage to your 73 made the older door not fit well.  The 
doors I have are 1972 model year doors in that nasty cream/white color.


On Jan 5, 2007, at 6:24 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:


I bought a rear door from a 68 115 years ago to
replace  the  crashed one on my 73 220D.  The
replacement door was far off.  It was not even close
to fitting.  Don't  know why.  Still have the damaged
door on the car ten years later.  I'll end up just
repairing it when I get a chance.
Dimitri

--- Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Not to compete with our faithful list father, but I
snagged some
114/115 doors today.  Anybody need one?  Cover
shipping and call it
good.  Have the trunk lid too.

I am intending to source some parts from these
filthy things, but if
you need the sheet metal parts, I am happy to ship
on your dime. UPS
Ground.


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Seattle Bioburner

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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1

2007-01-06 Thread Alex Chamberlain

On 1/6/07, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



*One* pump before starting can be beneficial, though.  ... On
carbureted engines it often sets the high idle cam.



Or the choke, on cars with carbs, no manual choke, and no thermostatically
operated automatic one.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'92 Isuzu Trooper


Re: [MBZ] 220D doors

2007-01-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yeah.  Definitely body damage as both doors and rocker
panel were involved.  The rear door is pretty badly
dented but I'll do my best to fix it.  If I can't then
maybe I try a replacement door again.
Dimitri

--- Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Might be body damage to your 73 made the older door
 not fit well.  The 
 doors I have are 1972 model year doors in that nasty
 cream/white color.
 
 On Jan 5, 2007, at 6:24 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
 
  I bought a rear door from a 68 115 years ago to
  replace  the  crashed one on my 73 220D.  The
  replacement door was far off.  It was not even
 close
  to fitting.  Don't  know why.  Still have the
 damaged
  door on the car ten years later.  I'll end up just
  repairing it when I get a chance.
  Dimitri
 
  --- Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Not to compete with our faithful list father, but
 I
  snagged some
  114/115 doors today.  Anybody need one?  Cover
  shipping and call it
  good.  Have the trunk lid too.
 
  I am intending to source some parts from these
  filthy things, but if
  you need the sheet metal parts, I am happy to
 ship
  on your dime. UPS
  Ground.
 
 
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  Seattle Bioburner
 
  1972 220D - Gump
  1995 E300D - Cleo
  1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
  The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
 
 
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[MBZ] That Gullwing

2007-01-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis

I called about that gullwing for sale @ Aston Martin
Dealership.  $320,000 and it's probably sold.  I would
of thought maybe $150,000 tops in that shape.  I
remember a pristine 300SL convertible for sale in the
late eighties for $90,000.  Guess these cars have
really appreciated.
Dimitri

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[MBZ] Old Benz obviate the need for this product

2007-01-06 Thread Redghost

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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




Re: [MBZ] What?

2007-01-06 Thread Chris Kueny
Unburned fuel in the exhaust?  (Retarded timing not allowing all the fuel to 
burn.)


Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
78 Chevy Custom deluxe
'85 300TD
'02 Subaru Outback



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Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What?


even though continued use of regular may not damage your engine, it 
will

damage the cats


And just how?

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] rusty turd

2007-01-06 Thread ts


Kaleb
I happen to like the Sears Bias Ply tires and snow tires on the rear. 
/Tom Scordato
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[MBZ] Recent trip

2007-01-06 Thread Craig McCluskey
Took the 240D/3.0 on a vacation trip over Christmas. Drove 3660 miles to
go from Los Alamos, NM to Eugene, OR and then down I-5 to Los Angeles (the
other LA) and then back on I-40.

Had an interesting odometer reading at the Dairy Queen in Grants Pass, OR.
Unfortunately, I didn't think far enough ahead to get the trip odometer in
on the act.

Car performed very well. Used a little oil with all-day-long running at 75
mph. The 240D radiator (I have not yet installed the new 300D radiator
from Rusty to return the car to where it was before the October, 2004
collision) developed a horizontal crack on the rear surface of the upper
plastic tank about 1 above the radiator core. This caused some anxiety
when I noticed it after topping off the radiator, but once the coolant
level was down below the crack, there was no leakage. Since it was winter,
the system didn't heat up enough to pressurize it significantly and blow
vapor out the crack.

I also found out that many of the Indian service stations advertised by
billboard signs on I-40 in eastern Arizona are no longer open or don't
have any diesel (instead having a, We're out, sign taped on the pump).
Made it an anxious time getting to the Arizona/New Mexico border where we
found that, eventhough the signs for it on the Interstate haven't been
updated with prices for a couple of years, Speedy's Service is indeed
open. We found this out after we had driven past the offramp to it in
Arizona. New Mexico, however, conveniently provided a couple of
turn-arounds close to the border, so we were about to make a U-turn and
fill up the tank after driving with the orange light on for quite a while.


Craig

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Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 236 kmi
   Past: 1964 190Dc
 1972 220D/8
 1972 220/8
 1987 190E/2.3

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