Re: [MBZ] rusty turd

2007-01-07 Thread David Brodbeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb I happen to like the Sears Bias Ply tires and snow tires on the rear. And the spare. Hey, it's only flat on one side!

Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....

2007-01-07 Thread Royce Engler
Larry said... You wrote about octane and detonation: making it more likely to detonate rather than burn smoothly across the chamber. In essence you are adding a heavier component to make it burn slower to reduce the problem of detonation Hi Royce, Is that your way of saying the higher

[MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread Allan Streib
Bought some new fuel return line from Rusty (the small diameter, fabric-wrapped line that runs between the injectors) since several sections of mine are damp with fuel. It looks like this is just a push-on fit, but I tugged at one and it did not pull off. The fabric seemed to be acting like a

Re: [MBZ] 220D doors

2007-01-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Explain Grays? Both wing windows are there Umm, they would be gray? In color. are 1972 model year doors in that nasty cream/white color. And that would be the answer. My doors are rusting badly, but paint is outside of the realm of possibility. I just parked it inside, for about the

[MBZ] OT: Saab 96?

2007-01-07 Thread Curt Raymond
I know we talked about something like this some time ago but... A guy I know has an old v4 Saab (four stroke), he thinks its a 95 but he also says its a sedan which makes me think its a 96. He's insistant its a v4 so I don't think its a 99. Anyway he wants $600 for it, its supposed to be in

Re: [MBZ] OT: Saab 96?

2007-01-07 Thread Sunil Hari
in a word, quirky. On 1/7/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't get any input here, let me know, and I can post some questions to the Saab list if you'd like. Brian On 1/6/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know we talked about something like this some time ago

[MBZ] To start or to let slumber

2007-01-07 Thread Zoltan Finks
I know this was touched upon in fairly recent times, but bear with me. Basic issue: It involves my 240D which I am not going to drive until sometime this late Spring when all the salt/sand is off the roads Would it be better for the vehicle's health if I started it periodically? If so, how

Re: [MBZ] To start or to let slumber

2007-01-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Would it be better for the vehicle's health if I let it sit undisturbed until I intend to actually drive it? And why would it be better? That is a relatively short time, if inside especially, for anything but the battery and the fuel tank. And you have those covered. I'm sure that'll be best

Re: [MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread Jim Cathey
seemed to be acting like a chinese finger handcuff -- tightening as I pulled. Do I need to cut off the old line, or is there some secret technique to removing it? Or just pull harder? Brute force. Just be sure not to nick or mar the hose fittings when you do finally take pliers or a knife to

Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....

2007-01-07 Thread Jim Cathey
space. Detonation occurs when the fuel air mixture explodes...i.e. burns in multiple places at the same time. This can happen when the fuel mixture contains components that ignite much like a diesel..i.e. it reaches a combustion temperature and pressure and cooks off. When that happens,

Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Proper combustion in a spark ignition engine is for the spark to ignite the air/fuel mixture at the correct time for peak pressure to occur a few degrees after TDC, and for the fuel mixture to burn at the correct rate for the flame front to consume the vast majority of the fuel before being

Re: [MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Take a pair of good needle nosed pliers a grip the line off-center so that it will tear off the nipple as you crush the part between the jaws. A bit harder to describe than do, but what you want is to grab enough of the hose beside the nipple to cause it to fail without gouging into the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Saab 96?

2007-01-07 Thread OK Don
What was the number of the Sonett? Mine had the V4 --- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread OK Don
Slice through the fabric, but not all the way through the rubber line - twist a lot, pull, etc. - -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] To start or to let slumber

2007-01-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Zoltan Finks wrote: Would it be better for the vehicle's health if I started it periodically? If so, how often? - or - Would it be better for the vehicle's health if I let it sit undisturbed until I intend to actually drive it? And why would it be better? I vote for undisturbed. Starting

Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?

2007-01-07 Thread Zeitgeist
I ended up with a wrecked '89 Audi 90 Quattro (w/diff lock) that I picked up for $250. I stripped it down, and it needs a new front clip, but all the damaged parts are bolt-on items, and can be easily found for cheap. Didn't hit the frame rails and just smacked the cam sprocket and auxilliary

Re: [MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread kevin kraly
I did have a time with a couple of them on my 300D and 300CD. The 'cD had the worst ones which were TOTALLY dried out and broke into pieces at the slightest tug, of course, right at the barb! I picked at them gently with a knife which did the trick. There's no Diesel smell under the hood of

Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?

2007-01-07 Thread kevin kraly
I ended up with a wrecked '89 Audi 90 Quattro (w/diff lock) that I picked up for $250. Is this the one equipped with the 20 valve 5 banger? I can always tell when one drives by, even the older 5000's. Diesel content: an Audi 5000 diesel sounds like a thrashing machine compared to a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Saab 96?

2007-01-07 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: What was the number of the Sonett? Mine had the V4 --- I believe the wagon was the 95 and the sedan was the 96, with the Sonnett III being 97. The early Sonnett may have been 97 also. I thought the S-III (1970's) was a very cool looking car, but the S-I (1960's) was just

Re: [MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread ts
Allan a pair of 45 degree angle needle nose pliers is what I use. Kind of use a grip, left and right spin, and pull move. When they pop off try not to have the spaz reaction pliers kick back and hit the little beveled ends o the injector nozzle. Also check that your 17 mm nuts (?) of your

Re: [MBZ] Monovalve insert

2007-01-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
The valve uses an electromagnet to drive the plunger up down. I wonder of the thick steel washer is needed to complete the magnetic circuit? If so then stainless steel will not work. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....

2007-01-07 Thread Royce Engler
Peter, THANK YOU for that illuminating explanation. I knew some of the basics, but your explanation filled in a LOT of holeskind of a gestalt...to use the German term ;-) Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 293K -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

[MBZ] OT Saab 96

2007-01-07 Thread Frederick W Moir
Hi, Curt. IF the car is truly rost frei and the transmission shifts properly, the only other thing that might be needed is an exhaust. This is from memory and CRS is creeping up on me. I've had 2 stroke and V4 96 sedans and a V4 95 wagon and a V4 97. You met Luke once and he has a lot of

Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....

2007-01-07 Thread LarryT
Thanks Royce, You wrote:Detonation occurs when the fuel air mixture explodes...i.e. burns in multiple places at the same time. This can happen when the fuel mixture contains components that ignite much like a diesel..i.e. it reaches a combustion temperature and pressure and cooks off.

Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....

2007-01-07 Thread LarryT
Thanks Peter - for that excellent explanation/ On a similar topic - when a cylinder head uses twin plugs - like some competition Porsches - when does the 2nd SP fire? At the same time as the 1st? Slightly afterward? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil

Re: [MBZ] cheap 2.5 turbo

2007-01-07 Thread LarryT
You wrote:cheap 2.5 turbo With over 8 days remaining, I doubt it'll be cheap for long. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info

Re: [MBZ] OT: Saab 96?

2007-01-07 Thread Frederick W Moir
Hi, OK Don, et al. It was one of the first of the V4' Twos, red engine and nicely curved bodywork, not that angular POS Three that required keyhole surgery just to check to the oil. I had to do a clutch on a three, late model black engine, what a pain in the fundament! I was (much) younger

Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....

2007-01-07 Thread Jim Cathey
What amazes me is how diesel is refined precisely so a pre-determined ignition can be obtained allowing diesel to be used on everything from a Peterbuilt to a Isuzu Diesel. But I guess all diesels must operate at/near the same pressures. Ha! Precise refining? How about thinly-strained

Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?

2007-01-07 Thread Jim Cathey
one drives by, even the older 5000's. Diesel content: an Audi 5000 diesel sounds like a thrashing machine compared to a properly tuned Mercedes diesel Freudian slip? Probably you meant threshing machine, but I kind of like the mental picture I got from what you said! -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Ah, but there is no fuel in the cylinder until the injection pump fires it in! This is the secret of diesels, and the basis of R. Diesels patents. Lister cylcle engines use compression ignition by atomizing diesel fuel into the air and igniting it by compression of the mixture AND a spark,

[MBZ] [Fwd: [Banned] Kaleb's long lost Uncle's Estate]

2007-01-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
check this out Original Message Subject: [Banned] Kaleb's long lost Uncle's Estate Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 19:48:35 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _Click here: MillerAuction_

Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Frederick
That I do not know -- I would GUESS that the most ignitable portion of the fuel/air mix is in different locations in the cylinder under different operating condition, and low power output/miss is a result with a single plug. There might also be a quench area that prevents proper flame

Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Yeah, those Audi/VW/Volvo diesel are noisy, especially at idle. The worst offender is actually the vaccum pump, as the operating rod is in two parts. They clack. It also has much more combustion noise, as the prechambers are much smaller and more open. It does turn out quite a bit of

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: [Banned] Kaleb's long lost Uncle's Estate]

2007-01-07 Thread Steve MacSween
OMG and my neighbours think I'M bad That is fascinating but very, very sad. Mac on 1/7/07 11:58 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check this out Original Message Subject: [Banned] Kaleb's long lost Uncle's Estate Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 19:48:35 EST

Re: [MBZ] cheap 2.5 turbo

2007-01-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
probably not. The most disturbing part of the car though is this model is prewired for CD changer in the trunk. Why on earth would somebody rip out the factory head unit and install that crappy aftermarket radio? LarryT wrote: You wrote:cheap 2.5 turbo With over 8 days remaining, I doubt

Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....

2007-01-07 Thread Chris Kueny
If I were Kaleb, I would preface this with 'Bzzzt, wrong.' But I am not so I won't. The Lister engines available from India today use no spark. You open a valve to relieve compression, turn the heavy flywheel until you get some stored inertial energy, close the valve and open the fuel

Re: [MBZ] cheap 2.5 turbo

2007-01-07 Thread LarryT
you wrote:Why on earth would somebody rip out the factory head unit and install that crappy aftermarket radio Couldn't agree more! Actually, I'm fighting a similar problem w/my 91. I want a changer and bought one that needed repair. It's been with SW Stereo since last July waiting for

Re: [MBZ] cheap 2.5 turbo

2007-01-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well you dont need a becker silverstone changer, the alpine 611 and several others will work just fine with the becker system. You have to get a coupld of adapter from PIE but thats no big deal. LarryT wrote: you wrote:Why on earth would somebody rip out the factory head unit and install

[MBZ] Brake Calipers

2007-01-07 Thread LarryT
Well, after examining my rear calipers and finding both had damaged bleed screws I decided to look at the front calipers. Sure enough, the flats in the hex were damaged by what appears to have been pliers (!!). So, I tried to unscrew them - got a wrench on them and tapped it with a very small

Re: [MBZ] cheap 2.5 turbo

2007-01-07 Thread LarryT
OK - Thanks! I'll contact PIE tomorrow and see how much a adapter will cost. Thanks again. BTW, is the Alpine 611 a current changer? Or has it been out for a while ? Hope, at last! ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test

Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?

2007-01-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Frederick wrote: It does turn out quite a bit of power, though, and is higher compression (105 hp on 2.4L) Is that the six cylinder? 105hp won't keep up with the BMW 2.4L, or a MBZ 602 five cyl. I have seen a Volvo in one of the Finns' videos which seems to be about as fast as the 603

Re: [MBZ] Brake Calipers

2007-01-07 Thread E M
Did you heat the fronts up frist? I know that feeling all to well, when you think it breaks free, only to have the head of the nut or whatever fall off in your hand. :-) Don't you just love fixing cars in the winter. hee hee Zeb On 07/01/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, after

Re: [MBZ] Brake Calipers

2007-01-07 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: I tried to unscrew them - got a wrench on them and tapped it with a very small hammer - slowly. Sure enough, just when I thought they had broken loose then broke where they enter the caliper. #!!#$%## Says I. You did hammer on them (like pounding in nails) to knock them

Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Yup. With the manual 5-speed its a racer, with the auto it's a bit slow off the line, then pulls pretty hard. Smokey, though -- no one will every wonder if you have your foot in it or not. 1983 design. It's not been running for the last couple years -- wont' start, I think I need the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Saab 96?

2007-01-07 Thread OK Don
I had a '74 Sonett III -- had to replace the heads shortly after I bought it - yes, keyhole surgery is a good description! Other than the two cracked heads, the only problem I had with the car was the water temp activated automatic choke. It was a blast to drive - though it would have been even

Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....

2007-01-07 Thread OK Don
The Jacobs R755 that was in Dad's Cessna 195 had two plugs per cylinder. Each set of plugs were fired by a seperate magnito - and they were timed about two degrees apart, IIRC. The left mag at 6 degrees BTDC, and the right mag at 8 degrees BTDC, for example. I don't remember the exact specs.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Saab 96?

2007-01-07 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: I had a '74 Sonett III -- It was a blast to drive - though it would have been even more fun with one of those turbo charged in-line fours! That would be a huge undertaking, and probably involve a substantial hood bulge. The 2.8L Ford Capri V-6 bolted right up, just had to

[MBZ] Here's a nice 114

2007-01-07 Thread Donald Snook
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Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....

2007-01-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Peter Frederick wrote: Diesels WILL run with a fuel/air mix, but there is no control over the ignition timing that way. I know at least one person who had a VW diesel get return holes in the head plugged up, and when the oil filled the valve cover and spilled over into the intake on the

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: [Banned] Kaleb's long lost Uncle's Estate]

2007-01-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, right -- you KNOW that is what we all aspire to. But also maybe a heated shed to work on them. --R Steve MacSween wrote: OMG and my neighbours think I'M bad That is fascinating but very, very sad. Mac

Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?

2007-01-07 Thread kevin kraly
Ah, THRESHING machine would describe it perfectly! I haven't heard one of them 5000D's in quite a while, maybe they've all hit the boneyard by now. MB content: Of course, there are plenty of MB diesels around, and I hope that this is the case for many years to come. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR

Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....

2007-01-07 Thread Peter Frederick
On high compression diesels (above 19:1), propane can ignite BEFORE the fuel is injected if the mixture is rich enough to be burnable. I would not recommend propane fumigation on anything with a compression ratio above 16:1 nor under high load with a turbocharger running, the risk of

Re: [MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread Curt Raymond
I delayed in doing them on my 190D when they were merely seeping and then got to do them when one fell off... That one got held back on with a zip tie so I could make it home. All the others were ready to fall off. -Curt Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 00:49:01 -0800 From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1

2007-01-07 Thread John W. Reames III
On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Zoltan Finks wrote: Yup. I know pumping is bad - my foot just wants to do it. I'ts like, come on, baby, you can do it! Yes, starting is an emotional thing with me ;) - nothing worse to me than the sound of the starter running slower and slower. Need to get over it - I

Re: [MBZ] Brake Calipers

2007-01-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: Is this a just kidding, or do you mean it literally? Just curious for future reference. It's one of the things you do to try to break a bleeder loose before applying enough twisting force to break it in half.

Re: [MBZ] Brake Calipers

2007-01-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Zoltan Finks wrote: Is this a just kidding, or do you mean it literally? Just curious for future reference. It really does seem to help to tap on the end of a rusty bolt for a while with a hammer. It breaks the rust bonds, or wakes up the sleeping thread demons, or something.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?

2007-01-07 Thread Frederick W Moir
Threshing, thrashing? Gee! I thought that the back seat of an Audi was the perfect place to find a Lesser spotted double breasted mattress thrasher! Fred Moir Lynn MA Please don't throw things. At 03:27 PM 1/7/2007, you wrote: Actually farmers regularly call threshing thrashing which is

Re: [MBZ] Brake Calipers

2007-01-07 Thread LarryT
Yep. Did that first. But honestly, the bleeders were so buggered up I was afraid they'd crumble. Now that I've had a while to think things over, I think I'll remove the calipers and try to drill the bleeder out. If I drill it with a bit about 75% of the OD of the bleeder it'll probably

Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1

2007-01-07 Thread LarryT
John wrote:when you pump it you throw the pump into WoT and it starts dumping lots of fuel As you say - that's the reason for not touching the accelerator pedal - not only do you get all that fuel in the chamber - it's very *cold* fuel to boot!Which means the GPs have a bunch more fuel

Re: [MBZ] Brake Calipers

2007-01-07 Thread E M
ha ha ha, yeah, it's amazing what we can all come up with, an hour after dinner, on a Sunday evening, with broken parts all around us in the driveway, and we need the car for tomorrow morning for work. :-) More interesting, or sould I say entertaining, would be not to read about the fixes, but

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: [Banned] Kaleb's long lost Uncle's Estate]

2007-01-07 Thread LarryT
2 comments - a few years ago (5 IIRC) a huge collection of Dusenburgs were found in NC and a large colection of Porsche 356s were stached away on a piece of land in Fla. I believe the Porsches were sold by the owners son or something - and he sold many thru Porsche club functions - thankfully

Re: [MBZ] Brake Calipers

2007-01-07 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:21:48 -0500 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife can drive her pickup or the 240D to work if need be. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) Is this the '91 300D you're having so much trouble with? Craig

Re: [MBZ] Octane and detonation....

2007-01-07 Thread John M McIntosh
On Jan 7, 2007, at 9:53 AM, Chris Kueny wrote: The Lister engines available from India today use no spark. ... See www.utterpower.comfor all the details. Chris K Cayce, SC After clocking 60 hours of gas generator use in dec here in the pacific NW I look at the various generator

Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1

2007-01-07 Thread David Brodbeck
LarryT wrote: I believe it happens like this - you turn the key, a spritz of fuel is injected to the proper cylinders, concurrently, the GPs start heating the prechamber or cylinder depending on model... Actually, at least in a mechanical-injection engine, no fuel is going to get spritzed

Re: [MBZ] cheap 2.5 turbo

2007-01-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Check on the internet to see if you can order them somewhere. When I bought mine I got the part number off a website and had a local radio shop order them for me. For the 91-93 cars using the alpine CD changer, you have to get 2 PIE adaptors, and get a special interface box at the dealer. I

Re: [MBZ] rusty turd

2007-01-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
Ooohh look at that cancerous rust. And it seems so nice above he high water mark... What IS nice is the color matching of the dash to the upholstery. On 1/6/07, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb I happen to like the Sears Bias Ply tires and snow tires on

[MBZ] CD changer info for Larry

2007-01-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Here is a link to a place that sells the proper adaptors you need. Just for FYI, you should be able to order them elsewhere. It also lists which of the alpine changer are compatable, although most any of the 6 disk ones will work. http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piembzealp.html -- Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] CD changer info for Larry

2007-01-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh yea, it also tells you the MB part number of the interface box you need to order from Rusty. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Here is a link to a place that sells the proper adaptors you need. Just for FYI, you should be able to order them elsewhere. It also lists which of the alpine changer

Re: [MBZ] Here's a nice 114

2007-01-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
Sweet car but it was the basic, bottom of the line model. It will only hold it's value if it isn't driven. On 1/7/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ebay Item # 260073393513 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/45k-ORIGINAL-MILES-PRICE-TO-SELL-THE-BEST

Re: [MBZ] replacing fuel return lines

2007-01-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
Slice through the fabric covering the nipple VERY carefully with one of those retractable razor knives and peel it apart and off. On 1/7/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I delayed in doing them on my 190D when they were merely seeping and then got to do them when one fell off... That

Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1

2007-01-07 Thread Zoltan Finks
So it would follow that on a mechanical-injection engine, there is no preheating of fuel, and so any fuel that enters as a result of pumping is as cold as the fuel that enters without pumping. I'm assuming that an 83 240D is a mechanical-injection engine. And no, I'm still not an advocate of