Re: [MBZ] Watch Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Billr
FWIW - I have a Rolex valued at @ $4000, BUT I paid $65 for it 40 years ago. It sits in a drawer because I got so sick of it after wearing it for 20+ years and the thing just wouldn't die. Could be that is one of the things that started my love for fine craftsmanship and good parts. Got my first

Re: [MBZ] bounces

2007-01-14 Thread Billr
Improper use of the term. Sorry. I just noticed they are re being held for review. Am I ok with stuff now? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subj

[MBZ] OT: free will, etc. (was: Mercedes Quality)

2007-01-14 Thread Steve MacSween
on 1/14/07 5:13 PM, OK Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I read an > article recently that was questioning how much "free will" we actually > have, and how much is an illusion. It looks like more is programmed in > than we like to think. If you want a stinging critique on how 'free' our consumer/

Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower Motor failure - not the fuse

2007-01-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
We let it sit a day and it is working again in all positions. I am thinking worn brushes. Any other ideas? On 1/14/07, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: > The blower motor on her 1985 300 CD has ceased to operate in one fell > swoop. I replaced the fuse, but

Re: [MBZ] management (was: Mercedes Quality vs Toyota)

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Frederick
True, to a point, but when the manager cannot understand the process, they are worse than useless. I've not seen the facilitation part much, just the micromanagement and tantrum part. If they cannot do the work, how is all the shades of hell are they going to be able to tell if it's being don

Re: [MBZ] 124 alarm problems

2007-01-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Only problem is the lights will still be flashing on and off. Darrell W. Sigmon wrote: The easiest way is to disconnect the alarm horn... Ralph W wrote: The alarm in my '87 300TD seems to have a mind of it's own every day or two the alarm will go off for no apparent reason. Does anyone know

[MBZ] Management

2007-01-14 Thread Frederick W Moir
I forget who said it, but it still applies:- "First class people hire first class people, second class people hire third class people". This is not a class, gender or ethnic anything of an exclusionary nature, just about capability. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel? Anyone?

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Unless I'm mistaken, this stuff is actually in the MBA curriculum. Not that anyone actually pays attention to it, once in the corperate environment, cash balance today seems to rule, whatever the cost tomorrow. Dimwit management is hardly an unknown, but seems to be more and more the norm th

Re: [MBZ] Waxing and.....

2007-01-14 Thread RELNGSON
> < application of Zymol car polish is with really hard rubbing. It's more a > "crust" than a haze.  It also removes the so-called dead paint in the > process.>> > The only reason to use "polish" in the first place is to remove the oxidized paint. So, of course the cloth will get dirty fast and

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Frederick
I don't know if that is true, but I worked for a promoter in Evansville, and made a couple short notice trips to get the correct bottle of wine for the performers --- they did have good taste, by the way! I heard stories about the jelly beans and taking all the red M&Ms out of a bowl full.

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota

2007-01-14 Thread Jim Cathey
...required the use of picograms to train staff...mandatory drug testing Must have been some powerful stuff, if picograms were all that were required! -- Jim

[MBZ] management (was: Mercedes Quality vs Toyota)

2007-01-14 Thread Allan Streib
There's some sense in this, in a way. A manager does not *do* the work, they are supposed to facilitate its getting done. They need to know haw to navigate company politics, manage human resource issues, assign tasks to the appropriate people, deal with interpersonal conflicts in their staff, dev

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Sadly Larry, it's worse. The company I work as contract for is now back to "lean manufacturing" (aka cut costs any way you can, reguardless of the results) from Six Sigma. Neither system will do anything but fix operations that actually MAKE something (plastic, ball bearings, fittings, parts,

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread OK Don
I've been reading some of the Waverly novels (out of embarrassment from owning the whole set, and having read only a few) - Scott's stories about 17th and 18th century England, and the commentary about the circumstances, are sadly reflective of today -- it's surprising how many situations and quot

Re: [MBZ] Booting your PC, which is what you should do......

2007-01-14 Thread RELNGSON
> < AutoAdminLogon > in the registry.  You could probably google it.  If I remember correctly > it's in localmachine\microsoft\windowsnt\currentversion\winlogon  you need > to have that autoadminlogon key set to 1, and the defaultusername, > defaultdomain and defaultpassword all set.>> > If this i

Re: [MBZ] Watch Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Chris Kueny
From: "Rich Thomas" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Watch Quality Why would you/whoever spend $2k on a watch? I can appreciate the engineering and craftsmanship of a fine timepiece, which I guess is part of the appeal. It seems like maybe you don't appreciate it as much as others. I hope you didn't act

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Chris Kueny
That is the exact thing I was thinking about. It was a bit fuzzy, but there it is. Thanks. Chris K Cayce, SC Chris Kueny wrote: Somebody who knows more than me should point out the difference in Japanese QC vs German QC. The Germans accept a certain amount of bad cars, and try like heck

Re: [MBZ] Watch Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Zeitgeist
We eschew silly diamonds and the whole notion of diamonds as an object of desire; what a crock. My wife has a simple silver band, and I don't wear anything. Also, my $80 stainless Citizen watch works just fine for indicating the passage of time. I collect and maintain vintage German mechanical

Re: [MBZ] Watch Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Sunil Hari
Or get a manmade gem from Gemesis or Apollo Diamond - it's a real diamond, minimal to zero flaws, colorless, at 1/2 the debeers thieving price. On 1/14/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: > > Not to rant, but I really abhor DeBeers. Get your girl to really abhor DeBe

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota

2007-01-14 Thread Jeff Zedic
I enjoy these threads about Japan vs Germny vs US. Yes, there were more problems with the US built Toyotas. (Some may remember I worked for Toyota for 13 years) A Japanese built car had a JT2 or JT1 VIN whilst the US made were 1T1. Canadian made were 2T1 and ranked almost as high as the JT2 cars.

Re: [MBZ] Watch Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Sunil Hari wrote: > > Not to rant, but I really abhor DeBeers. Get your girl to really abhor DeBeers, and then convince her that cubic zirconia engagement rings are the ultimate revenge against DeBeers. Something around 3 carats, with the same setting you'd buy if it were a diamond. Buy yoursel

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota

2007-01-14 Thread John M McIntosh
It's a QC issue, if the shipping folks of company "A" can't met the shipping QC specs which might be there because the robots like to have consistence when they remove things from pallets then why should they think the product made by company 'A' will met the standards either. Reminds me

Re: [MBZ] 124 alarm problems

2007-01-14 Thread Darrell W. Sigmon
The easiest way is to disconnect the alarm horn... Ralph W wrote: The alarm in my '87 300TD seems to have a mind of it's own every day or two the alarm will go off for no apparent reason. Does anyone know what causes this? As an alternative how can I disable the alarm? I really don't need an a

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Darrell W. Sigmon
It was during this time that MB contracted with Porsche to build the 500E. Darrell W. Sigmon 500E 400E LarryT wrote: In the early 90s Porsche was in deep do-do - sold less than 1000 Porsches in the US vs 10s of 1000s normally. Not a happy time. Until then, Porsches were heavily hand built - t

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread John M McIntosh
Yes, that and testing. A friend of mine a few years back bought a new toyota van (new model, first year of production) and proceeded to put 50,000 miles on it in the first year. They got a phone call a year out saying Toyota wanted their transmission, if they agreeded they'd get a new one

Re: [MBZ] w124 wiper cover removal for greasing?

2007-01-14 Thread John M McIntosh
Ok, I dug around more and found a UK site that had pictures of the assembly which is the same as mine The fellow noted even with the screw undone the housing won't come apart. In looking at the shop manual it looks like that the one I have would require removing the assembly and undoing the g

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota

2007-01-14 Thread LarryT
Peter wrote:<< many CEOs and upper management these days have degrees in English>> Frightening. Before I left the corporate world I saw the requirement for MBAs becoming more and more ingrained into almost all positions being advertised for. From cost (reasonable) to engineering (not reasonab

Re: [MBZ] Watch Quality

2007-01-14 Thread David Brodbeck
Sunil Hari wrote: > It's not a watch, it's a piece of jewelry that happens to tell time. No one > poo-poohs a $2k diamond ring, and it doesn't -do- anything. Yup, and what makes it valuable is the craftsmanship and the exclusivity. It doesn't take much to turn out an accurate quartz watch, but a

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread LarryT
Hi Peter, Yep, I should have included management when I mentioned the labor unons - I don't see how the stockholders keep from storming that gates when they see the bonuses being handed out. It;s one thing for bonus' to be distributed when profit is up but madness when times are tough. I re

Re: [MBZ] Watch Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Sunil Hari
It's not a watch, it's a piece of jewelry that happens to tell time. No one poo-poohs a $2k diamond ring, and it doesn't -do- anything. And the stone inside isn't really worth the money; it's an artificial supply constriction by a cartel. Not to rant, but I really abhor DeBeers. On 1/14/07, R

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Nope. A degree in science or engineering disqualifies one to be management -- "too close to the work". You must have "independent thinking skills" and be able to blow the current psuedo-scientific smoke, whatever brand it is these days. If you know how things actually work, you won't be able

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Not really a ramble, Larry. They ARE better, but still suffer from crappy design (lousy shapes, for instance) --- my buddy's parents decided to drive (at night) to go to dinner over Thanksgiving because they simply could not face the ordeal of getting in and out of the rear seat of a new Ponti

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota

2007-01-14 Thread LarryT
you wrote:> Hmmm, I wonder if that is because of the low # of engineering/scientist our colleges are turning out? Along with a high # of Liberal Arts degrees forcing a glut on the market - so a company that is looking for a Bachelors degree holder must accept wha

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota

2007-01-14 Thread LarryT
Yep, my 1999 Camry had a J in the VIN # indicating it was assembled in Japan. It was a part of the advertising when I sold it to buy the 91 300D ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE P

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread LarryT
In the early 90s Porsche was in deep do-do - sold less than 1000 Porsches in the US vs 10s of 1000s normally. Not a happy time. Until then, Porsches were heavily hand built - that had to change - they could *not* continue to produce a product designed in the late 50s while continuing to charge

Re: [MBZ] Watch Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Why would you/whoever spend $2k on a watch? Not being a smartass, I just want to know what the thought process is. I have found that there are plenty of places to get the time if you need it, and I very rarely need to know what the time is when there is no source around. I can appreciate the

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread mykd1
The way I see Mercedes in their quality standards is they pay more attention the to the quality of their higher end cars than they do the so called "less expensive" cars. Its like the more money you have to spend on their cars has a greater influence to how tolerant you are with quality. Har

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota

2007-01-14 Thread mykd1
The GTI was built in Germany, but some of the parts came from Austria and the US. I do believe the diesel engine cars.. Jetta, Golf and Rabbitt were also German built Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message--

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota

2007-01-14 Thread mykd1
I noticed in the most recent years Toyota has taken a long hard look at the quality of their US built cars. I know someone who was a dedicated carrier for the Toyota plant in Indiana and he mentioned that they often send more shipments of parts and supplies back then they accept. He mentioned th

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Frederick
The difference between US and Japanese manufacturing is that the Japanese USE statistical process control, the vast majority of US manufactures do lots of statistics and call it SPC -- there is a difference! Don't know about the Germans, but I believe they tend more toward producing good part

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread David Brodbeck
Chris Kueny wrote: > Somebody who knows more than me should point out the difference in Japanese > QC vs German QC. The Germans accept a certain amount of bad cars, and try > like heck to catch them and fix them before shipping them, while the > Japanese see any bad car as a problem in the proc

Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower Motor failure - not the fuse

2007-01-14 Thread Marshall Booth
andrew strasfogel wrote: The blower motor on her 1985 300 CD has ceased to operate in one fell swoop. I replaced the fuse, but this had no effect. Before I purchase a replacement motor, I should ask whether there is a relay that might be at fault rather than the motor itself. Anybody? The

Re: [MBZ] OT Winows XP annoying click requirement

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Frederick
The frog icon is likely an option (similar silly stuff on OS X) -- you can set the computer to boot directly into a user somewhere on the control panel, I don't know where (I'm a Mac user, but I've worked on XP computers). You need the admin password to do so, I think, but it can be done. Pe

Re: [MBZ] OT Winows XP annoying click requirement

2007-01-14 Thread Zoltan Finks
Hey 'preciate the tips! Actually I think we only have one user defined, or whatever the terminology. I remember installing XP and I just named one user. And it's the only one that comes up - the name I chose and the silly cartoon frog. I'll look at the google earth site too. Brian

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Frederick
The US plants have American managers. If they are like the ones I have currently at my current job (major US company as a contractor), they can turn any set of parts into junk. The notion that "if you know how to do it you are prohibited from managing it" seems to be universal in the US -- th

Re: [MBZ] bounces

2007-01-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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Re: [MBZ] bounces

2007-01-14 Thread Allan Streib
"Billr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kaleb - I just had to reinstall MS Office Professional and suddenly am > getting bounces all over the place. I thought I had everything the same, > but I guess not. Any clue as to what I need to change? Your messages contain the following Reply-To header:

Re: [MBZ] OT Winows XP annoying click requirement

2007-01-14 Thread The Wakin's
go to start - settings - control panel and select the option to change how users logon. Dave W - Original Message - From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:17 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT Winows XP annoying click requirement

Re: [MBZ] OT Winows XP annoying click requirement

2007-01-14 Thread Allan Streib
"Billr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I use XP on two computers [both came with it as the OS though, no > upgrades] and I have never seen a frog icon. Must be from something > else. I hit the power button [on the rare occasion that I turn one > off] and either wait a minute or come back later to

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota

2007-01-14 Thread Allan Streib
Similar differences in quality were/are noted in Mexican vs. German assembled Volkswagens, and also to the US assembled ones (Rabbits I think) when they had a plant in Westmoreland PA. For example I have been told "if you are going to buy a Golf, get the GTI they are still made in Germany" (I don'

Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower Motor failure - not the fuse

2007-01-14 Thread Jim Cathey
The blower motor on her 1985 300 CD has ceased to operate in one fell swoop. I replaced the fuse, but this had no effect. Before I purchase a replacement motor, I should ask whether there is a relay that might be at fault rather than the motor itself. Anybody? There is a relay, the blower c

Re: [MBZ] was: rubbing compound on hood, now Correct Way to Wax

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Frederick
I doubt that Zymol is plain carnauba wax, though Peter

Re: [MBZ] My new M100

2007-01-14 Thread Rory
Too bad it was only the wine, I was planning a trip to your casa to check it out! Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD

Re: [MBZ] w124 wiper cover removal for greasing?

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Lubricate the rod with synthetic grease, Mobil 1 or equivalent. Helps a bunch. CLEAN with a spray something first, but the lube MUST stay put no matter what the temp, and anything liquid will run off in the summer, leading to a stuck shaft eventually. I need to do this with both cars -- I lu

Re: [MBZ] OT Winows XP annoying click requirement

2007-01-14 Thread Joe Knight
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282866/en-us Check out google earth. -joe

[MBZ] 124 Wiper

2007-01-14 Thread Frederick W Moir
Caveat. Before removing wiper from car, disconnect the battery. If you nudge the self parking bit it may shear away important part of your anatomy. This would ruin your day! Fred Moir Lynn MA

Re: [MBZ] w124 wiper cover removal for greasing?

2007-01-14 Thread Marshall Booth
John M McIntosh wrote: The cold weather up here in the NW has shown the 90's W124 needs to have the wiper mech greased. In looking into this, plus reading notes on the internet it says to use a pick or allen wrench on the lower flange of the wiper rod housing at the 5 and 7 o'clock position

[MBZ] 123 Blower Motor failure - not the fuse

2007-01-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
The blower motor on her 1985 300 CD has ceased to operate in one fell swoop. I replaced the fuse, but this had no effect. Before I purchase a replacement motor, I should ask whether there is a relay that might be at fault rather than the motor itself. Anybody? 1985 300 CD 210 K miles

Re: [MBZ] was: rubbing compound on hood, now Correct Way to Wax

2007-01-14 Thread andrew strasfogel
I find that the only wy to remove the white haze left on my car following application of Zymol car polish is with really hard rubbing. It's more a "crust" than a haze. It also removes the so-called dead paint in the process. On 1/13/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thin white haze

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Tom Hargrave
Now you guys are getting into my area of expertise. Quality has to be designed into and not inspected into a product. Inspection's place is as a measuring tool and in the case of an identified quality issue, a filter to bring a sub-standard lot back up to acceptable standards. Quality systems are

Re: [MBZ] w124 wiper cover removal for greasing?

2007-01-14 Thread LarryT
John, You may want to read the procedure for removing the whole wiper assy - it may be easier to do that and lubricate everything before replacing it. BTW, the WW assy is removed to access the HVAC blower motor. Thanks for the warning about lubing the WW. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91

Re: [MBZ] OT Winows XP annoying click requirement

2007-01-14 Thread L. Mark Finch
I've been running Google Earth on my Macs. It works well, and it's free. Runs on all three major platforms. http://earth.google.com/ --mf On Jan 14, 2007, at 3:17 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Has anyone installed "Virtual Earth 3D" and run it successfully? It's that map/locating program, but

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread LarryT
Yep. The old stand by explanation for QC problems was "They all do that." Now, run along. Certainly the old days of paying sticker for a VW because there was a line of people waiting in line for the next one - the Japanese changed all that. I'm trying to remember who this was -- saw a progra

Re: [MBZ] OT Winows XP annoying click requirement

2007-01-14 Thread LarryT
Go to the MSN website and look for an application called TweakUI - if it;s not there try searching http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/ - it these are unsuccessful Google TweakUI. Theres lots of Tweaks in there with all manners of short cuts. Look for log on and you can enter a user name and p

[MBZ] bounces

2007-01-14 Thread Billr
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Re: [MBZ] OT Winows XP annoying click requirement

2007-01-14 Thread Billr
I use XP on two computers [both came with it as the OS though, no upgrades] and I have never seen a frog icon. Must be from something else. I hit the power button [on the rare occasion that I turn one off] and either wait a minute or come back later to a ready computer. BillR -Original Mes

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Cadillac

2007-01-14 Thread Billr
"<> After my father-in-Law became successful enough with his fishing equipment [Pompanette - which also had a great reputation until he sold the business and retired] he bought only Cadillac. That ended when the quality dropped. He said he used to be able to tell a big difference in quality, but

Re: [MBZ] OT Winows XP annoying click requirement

2007-01-14 Thread Levi Smith
I'm not sure if there's an easier way, but you could set up AutoAdminLogon in the registry. You could probably google it. If I remember correctly it's in localmachine\microsoft\windowsnt\currentversion\winlogon you need to have that autoadminlogon key set to 1, and the defaultusername, defaultd

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality vs Toyota

2007-01-14 Thread Billr
My story was based on a company Corolla, probably a 1992 that I was assigned when I hired on in 1994 [I let the wife have my '75 240D]. When I first took the car to the Toyota dealer and gave the service manager a list of items that were causing me concern [can't remember the list anymore] his fir

Re: [MBZ] OT Winows XP annoying click requirement

2007-01-14 Thread Jeff Zedic
Brian, I had installed Virtual Earth but found it disappointing. It was ok and I didn't keep it long, it was a big download too. 3D version must be differeent because I never had any city fly throughs. Onmy XP, I only have to click the user icon when I wake my computer from standby. When I first

[MBZ] OT Winows XP annoying click requirement

2007-01-14 Thread Zoltan Finks
Does anyone know if there is a way to disable the requirement that Windows XP has that the user click on their user icon in order to get the computer to either turn on or to wake up? We "upgraded" from 98 to XP some months ago, and the most annoying feature is that when I turn on the computer, I

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Gary Hurst
my father came to america in 1950, when we still built cars that were the standard for the world. when i was a kid in the 70s, my dad would look at all the new cars in great sadness, stunned at the build and finish quality. he declared the big 3 to be diseased and dying. i don't think my dad sa

[MBZ] My new M100

2007-01-14 Thread Jim Cathey
Just bought one tonight. Reasonably priced, reasonable quality. Sadly, it was a bottle of Columbia Valley (WA) wine, not a car. OTOH, my wife let me live, too. I meant to bring the bottle home for my garage, but I forgot. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Jim Cathey
Where will you step? Why, over to my collection of pre-'90 Mercedes, of course! -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Chris - I don't think your understanding of Japanese and German QC is correct. Both (and probably all) manufacturers have peaks and valleys in their QC measurements. The trick is to narrow this gap, and the successful companies work very hard to do quality testing at the lowest level (i.e. at

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Zoltan Finks
Where will you step? Brian Jim wrote: It took a lot of years for GM to ruin Cadillac's reputation, which was once as lustrous as Mercedes. It won't be long now before Cadillac's star again shines like Mercedes' in the firmament, unfortunately for the wrong reason! They'll be _two_ brown turds

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Zoltan Finks
Very good point. I go with the odds when buying something. I need that assurance that I'm getting into something good with my money. In fact, that's why I became convinced to pursue an older Mercedes - all the praise on this very list. As a side note, I read a wee bit too much into the praise, an

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Bob Rentfro
That's exactly how it happens. Very eloquent, Hursty. Bob R - Original Message - From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality "junk" may not be the right word (except, well, in th

[MBZ] w124 wiper cover removal for greasing?

2007-01-14 Thread John M McIntosh
The cold weather up here in the NW has shown the 90's W124 needs to have the wiper mech greased. In looking into this, plus reading notes on the internet it says to use a pick or allen wrench on the lower flange of the wiper rod housing at the 5 and 7 o'clock position stick in hole to unlatch

Re: [MBZ] was: rubbing compound on hood, now Correct Way to Wax

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Thin white haze, wipes off with light pressure. You are only removing the excess, the wax stuck to the paint won't turn white. Peter

Re: [MBZ] was: rubbing compound on hood, now Correct Way to Wax

2007-01-14 Thread Zoltan Finks
So when your wax is applied, does it dry to a whiteish/opaque apearance? Or is there not enough wax present for it to do that? What does the correct amount look/act like? Brian On 1/13/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Surprised me when I found out about it too. I used to fill a

Re: [MBZ] was: rubbing compound on hood, now Correct Way to Wax

2007-01-14 Thread Peter Frederick
Surprised me when I found out about it too. I used to fill a couple bath towels with wax doing a single car, now just use a small terry polisher (on the rare occasions I wax mine). I finally figured out a very thin layer of wax will buff up very nicely and quickly with very light pressure. A

[MBZ] 124 alarm problems

2007-01-14 Thread Ralph W
The alarm in my '87 300TD seems to have a mind of it's own every day or two the alarm will go off for no apparent reason. Does anyone know what causes this? As an alternative how can I disable the alarm? I really don't need an alarm on a 20 year old car where I live. I checked the fuse box and c

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Tom Hargrave wrote: > Can these defective Mercedes be isolated cases that once they start on > the net, never seem to die? MAYBE but the rusty bubble issues you ehar about on W210s.. I see a few on one of mine. No perforation on the outside either, factory paint. If ANYONE b

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
> > If MB is selling more cars than ever before, how > can > > they be junk? They must be doing something right. > > You mean like Microsoft and McDonalds? Good point Want to start your own business? Learn

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Hendrik Riessen
A good parallel to look at is Grundig, which once upon a time was the Mercedes of electronic goods. I bought a Grundig TV a couple of years ago which was priced a bit less than a Sony. Anyway it has turned out to be a piece of junk with crappy sound and issues with the picture. Well it finally

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Jim Cathey
If MB is selling more cars than ever before, how can they be junk? They must be doing something right. You mean like Microsoft and McDonalds? They _are_ junk, but grasshopper is wise to fear their near-invincible marketdroids. _We_ are responsible for their success, don't forget. It took a l

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Jim Cathey
while most companies remain fundamentally unaware of the internet... ...they will soon be unable to survive relying on their traditional method of control through disinformation. they just mostly don't know it yet. There is irony there. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Jim Cathey
Somebody who knows more than me should point out the difference in Japanese QC vs German QC. The Germans accept a certain amount of bad cars, and try like heck to catch them and fix them before shipping them, while the Japanese see any bad car as a problem in the process, and find a way to fix

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
While I agree that the MB taxis in europe don't have all the bells and whistles of the cars available to the public, they are still very well appointed cars. It maybe true that they lack some of the electronic equipment that our cars may have that might make them more reliable, but build quality d

Re: [MBZ] Piston cooling

2007-01-14 Thread RELNGSON
In re: oil cooled pistons: > < too, but I have no knowledge of them.>> > The 1976 Porsche 911 Turbo's pistons were cooled by oil jets to the underside except that there was a side to side passage in the piston that the oil went through, coming out the other side. Of course, this engine produced

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Chris Kueny
Somebody who knows more than me should point out the difference in Japanese QC vs German QC. The Germans accept a certain amount of bad cars, and try like heck to catch them and fix them before shipping them, while the Japanese see any bad car as a problem in the process, and find a way to fix

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

2007-01-14 Thread Gary Hurst
the internet has killed any capacity for coverup. in the old days, the manufacturer could always say that your problem is some sort of strange anomaly. perhaps you drive funny? while most companies remain fundamentally unaware of the internet, we now know when they are flat out lying to us, ins