Re: [MBZ] NOW Today's Puzzler

[Curt Raymond]

So I'll be interested in finding what it was that this cured.

Wondering if you've either got a leak in a fuel line or a bad fuel filter.

That car should definately start at 17 degrees, the windchill does NOT lower 
the temp.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:34:02 -0500
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Reames wins!!  I pumped the primer pump for about 20 seconds, which I
suppose moved the fuel past whatever obstruction existed.  I would 
never
think of removing the air cleaner or starting a fire - very creative
suggestions, and both merit Honorable Mentions for Kaleb and Bill.

John - I don't think anyone here in D.C. brews Ristrettoes 
(Ristrettos?),
but you are welcome to the best that Puccini's has to offer.  Puccini's 
is a
small independent coffee shop located a couple blocks from the White 
House.
The barista is an Ethiopian named Isaac.  Let me know when you want to 
claim
your prize.

ALS

 
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incompotent.
The sooner Daimler-Benz gets rid of Chrysler the better, I mean that 300C 
would have to be the ugliest thing on this planet(it's like a shoebox on 
wheels) and I can't see how Chrysler has added anything to DB, except for 
cheapening the brand.

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> An emotional day for Chrysler's workers in Warren
> http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070214/BUSINESS01/70214011
>
> Daimler open to partial sale of Chrysler
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17149205/
>
> Detroit___s Slump Could Break Up Chrysler Group
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/15/business/15auto.html?ei=5094&en=b87e6eeff177df5b&hp=&ex=1171515600&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print
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Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

[Tom Hargrave]

I'm behind too but I should have known the answer.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

OK, I'm way behind on this. Umpteen people had already guessed the correct
answer.
However, I've impressed myself by actually guessing the correct answer.

Randy

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Pump the fuel primer??

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A little gas in the intake

Thanks,
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-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:27 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

OK, I have a puzzler.  Let's see how good you all are.  FIist correct reply
wins a FREE Puccini coffee (must be collected in Washington, D.C.)

1985 300CD.  For the past week we plugged in the block heater and the car
started instantly and perfectly in gtemps. as low as 10 degrees F.
Yesterday, the alley was iced up so we had to park on the street overnight,
with no way to plug in the block heater.  Temp. was 17 degrees this AM with
a wind chill of maybe 5.  We glowed and kept glowing 10 seconds after the
light went out.  Engine turned but would not fire.  Tried twice more, using
the gas pedal, but to no avail!  I had her pop the hood and try a fourth
time while I watched - still turned but no dice.  Battery was strong,
fortunately.  I stared at the engine, thought deeply and then fiddled with
something in the engine area.  I then myself tried to start it again using
the same preglow procedure.  This time the engine fired instantly and ran
flawlessly.

Question:  What exactly did I do under the hood?

Hint:  I have never done this before or heard of this tactic being used as a
technique for getting a balky diesel to start in cold weather.  This doesn't
prove or mean anything but then again, it might.

Good luck, and apologies in advance if this puzzler is wya too elementary
and an insult to the collective Okiebenz intelligence.

ALS

On 2/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/2007 7:58:23 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Looks  like this dude has a Xferable warranty.
> You reckon it's one offered by the  dealer they charge a bizillion $s for
> when you buy the vehicle?
>
> Would  this be outside the years for sludge  issues?
>
> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/277567380.html
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Jeez, that's right in your neighborhood.  I went to the PHx library  today
> and checked the service bulletins in AllData again.  It says models  from
> 98 to
> 2001.  The TSB was issued 12/5/2003.  There may be later  ones, but I
> didn't
> see any.  The TSB did not discuss warranty pass  throughs, though it did
> caution dealers to check the FSS history for excessive  mileage between
> oil changes.
> Apparently the PCM maintains an internal  history of when the FSS was
> reset,
> and at what mileage on the oil.
>
> Jim  Friesen
> Phoenix AZ
> 79 300SD, 264 K miles
> 98 ML 320, 147 K  miles
>
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Re: [MBZ] DaimlerChrysler or Daimler, Chrysler?

[R A Bennell]

Maybe they can sell to Toyota. They seem to be taking over the industry. Can't 
quite understand why. We have 2
Toyotas right now (in addition to 3 Fords, the Benz and a Chevy) and I don't 
think the Toyotas are any better than
the rest. Didn't we just have this thread recently?

Randy

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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:30 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] DaimlerChrysler or Daimler, Chrysler?


An emotional day for Chrysler's workers in Warren
http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070214/BUSINESS01/70214011

Daimler open to partial sale of Chrysler
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17149205/

Detroit___s Slump Could Break Up Chrysler Group
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/15/business/15auto.html?ei=5094&en=b87e6eeff177df5b&hp=&ex=1171515600&partner=homepa
ge&pagewanted=print


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

[R A Bennell]

OK, I'm way behind on this. Umpteen people had already guessed the correct 
answer.
However, I've impressed myself by actually guessing the correct answer.

Randy

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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler


Pump the fuel primer??

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:42 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler


A little gas in the intake

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:27 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

OK, I have a puzzler.  Let's see how good you all are.  FIist correct reply
wins a FREE Puccini coffee (must be collected in Washington, D.C.)

1985 300CD.  For the past week we plugged in the block heater and the car
started instantly and perfectly in gtemps. as low as 10 degrees F.
Yesterday, the alley was iced up so we had to park on the street overnight,
with no way to plug in the block heater.  Temp. was 17 degrees this AM with
a wind chill of maybe 5.  We glowed and kept glowing 10 seconds after the
light went out.  Engine turned but would not fire.  Tried twice more, using
the gas pedal, but to no avail!  I had her pop the hood and try a fourth
time while I watched - still turned but no dice.  Battery was strong,
fortunately.  I stared at the engine, thought deeply and then fiddled with
something in the engine area.  I then myself tried to start it again using
the same preglow procedure.  This time the engine fired instantly and ran
flawlessly.

Question:  What exactly did I do under the hood?

Hint:  I have never done this before or heard of this tactic being used as a
technique for getting a balky diesel to start in cold weather.  This doesn't
prove or mean anything but then again, it might.

Good luck, and apologies in advance if this puzzler is wya too elementary
and an insult to the collective Okiebenz intelligence.

ALS

On 2/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/2007 7:58:23 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Looks  like this dude has a Xferable warranty.
> You reckon it's one offered by the  dealer they charge a bizillion $s for
> when you buy the vehicle?
>
> Would  this be outside the years for sludge  issues?
>
> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/277567380.html
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Jeez, that's right in your neighborhood.  I went to the PHx library  today
> and checked the service bulletins in AllData again.  It says models  from
> 98 to
> 2001.  The TSB was issued 12/5/2003.  There may be later  ones, but I
> didn't
> see any.  The TSB did not discuss warranty pass  throughs, though it did
> caution dealers to check the FSS history for excessive  mileage between
> oil changes.
> Apparently the PCM maintains an internal  history of when the FSS was
> reset,
> and at what mileage on the oil.
>
> Jim  Friesen
> Phoenix AZ
> 79 300SD, 264 K miles
> 98 ML 320, 147 K  miles
>
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Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

[R A Bennell]

Pump the fuel primer??

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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler


A little gas in the intake

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:27 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

OK, I have a puzzler.  Let's see how good you all are.  FIist correct reply
wins a FREE Puccini coffee (must be collected in Washington, D.C.)

1985 300CD.  For the past week we plugged in the block heater and the car
started instantly and perfectly in gtemps. as low as 10 degrees F.
Yesterday, the alley was iced up so we had to park on the street overnight,
with no way to plug in the block heater.  Temp. was 17 degrees this AM with
a wind chill of maybe 5.  We glowed and kept glowing 10 seconds after the
light went out.  Engine turned but would not fire.  Tried twice more, using
the gas pedal, but to no avail!  I had her pop the hood and try a fourth
time while I watched - still turned but no dice.  Battery was strong,
fortunately.  I stared at the engine, thought deeply and then fiddled with
something in the engine area.  I then myself tried to start it again using
the same preglow procedure.  This time the engine fired instantly and ran
flawlessly.

Question:  What exactly did I do under the hood?

Hint:  I have never done this before or heard of this tactic being used as a
technique for getting a balky diesel to start in cold weather.  This doesn't
prove or mean anything but then again, it might.

Good luck, and apologies in advance if this puzzler is wya too elementary
and an insult to the collective Okiebenz intelligence.

ALS

On 2/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/2007 7:58:23 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Looks  like this dude has a Xferable warranty.
> You reckon it's one offered by the  dealer they charge a bizillion $s for
> when you buy the vehicle?
>
> Would  this be outside the years for sludge  issues?
>
> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/277567380.html
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Jeez, that's right in your neighborhood.  I went to the PHx library  today
> and checked the service bulletins in AllData again.  It says models  from
> 98 to
> 2001.  The TSB was issued 12/5/2003.  There may be later  ones, but I
> didn't
> see any.  The TSB did not discuss warranty pass  throughs, though it did
> caution dealers to check the FSS history for excessive  mileage between
> oil changes.
> Apparently the PCM maintains an internal  history of when the FSS was
> reset,
> and at what mileage on the oil.
>
> Jim  Friesen
> Phoenix AZ
> 79 300SD, 264 K miles
> 98 ML 320, 147 K  miles
>
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Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

[Tom Hargrave]

A little gas in the intake

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:27 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

OK, I have a puzzler.  Let's see how good you all are.  FIist correct reply
wins a FREE Puccini coffee (must be collected in Washington, D.C.)

1985 300CD.  For the past week we plugged in the block heater and the car
started instantly and perfectly in gtemps. as low as 10 degrees F.
Yesterday, the alley was iced up so we had to park on the street overnight,
with no way to plug in the block heater.  Temp. was 17 degrees this AM with
a wind chill of maybe 5.  We glowed and kept glowing 10 seconds after the
light went out.  Engine turned but would not fire.  Tried twice more, using
the gas pedal, but to no avail!  I had her pop the hood and try a fourth
time while I watched - still turned but no dice.  Battery was strong,
fortunately.  I stared at the engine, thought deeply and then fiddled with
something in the engine area.  I then myself tried to start it again using
the same preglow procedure.  This time the engine fired instantly and ran
flawlessly.

Question:  What exactly did I do under the hood?

Hint:  I have never done this before or heard of this tactic being used as a
technique for getting a balky diesel to start in cold weather.  This doesn't
prove or mean anything but then again, it might.

Good luck, and apologies in advance if this puzzler is wya too elementary
and an insult to the collective Okiebenz intelligence.

ALS

On 2/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/2007 7:58:23 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Looks  like this dude has a Xferable warranty.
> You reckon it's one offered by the  dealer they charge a bizillion $s for
> when you buy the vehicle?
>
> Would  this be outside the years for sludge  issues?
>
> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/277567380.html
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Jeez, that's right in your neighborhood.  I went to the PHx library  today
> and checked the service bulletins in AllData again.  It says models  from
> 98 to
> 2001.  The TSB was issued 12/5/2003.  There may be later  ones, but I
> didn't
> see any.  The TSB did not discuss warranty pass  throughs, though it did
> caution dealers to check the FSS history for excessive  mileage between
> oil changes.
> Apparently the PCM maintains an internal  history of when the FSS was
> reset,
> and at what mileage on the oil.
>
> Jim  Friesen
> Phoenix AZ
> 79 300SD, 264 K miles
> 98 ML 320, 147 K  miles
>
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Re: [MBZ] New Arrival!

[R A Bennell]

Congrats! Enjoy! My "little guy" is now 6'4" and it doesn't seem all that long 
since he looked like yours.

Randy

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Subject: [MBZ] New Arrival!


I can't help but gloat. I'm a daddy!

Here he is! Gabriel Logan Campbell, born Feb. 10 at 11:31 am. 7 lbs 8
oz, 21 inches of perfection.

http://www.pbase.com/timothypilgrim/spuds_debut

Tim and Isabelle

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[MBZ] FW: Ultra_Low Sulfur Diesel and Low Sulfur Diesel Prices

[Tom Hargrave]

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percent of the volume of highway diesel fuel they supply be Ultra-Low Sulfur
Diesel (ULSD).  All 2007 and later model year diesel-fueled on-highway
vehicles
will be equipped with emission control systems that require ULSD, which
cannot
exceed a maximum sulfur content of 15 parts per million (ppm).  

By December 2010, all on-highway diesel will have to be ULSD.  California
has
accelerated the schedule, with retail stations required to sell only ULSD by
September 2006.  Between 2006 and 2010, both ULSD and low sulfur diesel
(LSD) may
be offered for sale outside of California, with some diesel fuel outlets
carrying
both fuels and others choosing to sell only one or the other.

Until recently, EIA has collected the price of on-highway fuel without
distinguishing the sulfur level. Recently, the weekly on-highway diesel
price
survey began collecting diesel prices for Low Sulfur (LSD), diesel between
15 ppm
and 500 ppm sulfur, and ULSD separately.  These data were then analyzed to
determine the accuracy of the prices by sulfur content.  On February 20,
2007 EIA
will begin releasing the additional sulfur price information that is
determined
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Re: [MBZ] Injector questions

[Marshall Booth]

B Dike wrote:

All,

A couple question on injectors:

1) Will new nozzles reduce or eliminate leaking injectors?


Almost always.


2) Can new nozzles be properly installed without recalibrating the injectors 
with a pressure tester?


NO!

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

[Marshall Booth]

andrew strasfogel wrote:

OK, I have a puzzler.  Let's see how good you all are.  FIist correct reply
wins a FREE Puccini coffee (must be collected in Washington, D.C.)

1985 300CD.  For the past week we plugged in the block heater and the car
started instantly and perfectly in gtemps. as low as 10 degrees F.
Yesterday, the alley was iced up so we had to park on the street overnight,
with no way to plug in the block heater.  Temp. was 17 degrees this AM with
a wind chill of maybe 5.  We glowed and kept glowing 10 seconds after the
light went out.  Engine turned but would not fire.  Tried twice more, using
the gas pedal, but to no avail!  I had her pop the hood and try a fourth
time while I watched - still turned but no dice.  Battery was strong,
fortunately.  I stared at the engine, thought deeply and then fiddled with
something in the engine area.  I then myself tried to start it again using
the same preglow procedure.  This time the engine fired instantly and ran
flawlessly.


There is ALMOST nothing in the engine compartment that influences cold 
starting.


Was the hand pump tight and/or did you pump it? Was the glow plug fuse 
tightly secured?


What you describe can happen if there is a little water in the fuel or 
the cloud point of the fuel isn't quite high enough. By the 4th-5th try, 
the ice or wax that was blocking unrestricted fuel flow may have been 
displaced. What you describe can also happen if one or two valves are 
just a tad tight (so that compression is down just a bit). ANYTHING that 
warms the engine even a little can turn a non-start into a start if you 
are close.


You said that you depressed the accelerator pedal at least once before 
trying to start (to be sure the rack was off the stop position) and held 
the pedal at least halfway down while trying to start!


I continue to be dumbfounded that almost nobody follows Mercedes' 
recommendation that once you start cranking, KEEP cranking until the 
engine starts - DO NOT STOP CRANKING - DO NOT TRY A SECOND TIME (as you 
would with a gasoline car) - just keep cranking until the engine starts 
or the battery goes dead. That offers absolutely the best chance of 
starting the engine in really cold weather. Any other strategy offers 
less chance of the engine starting.


You MUST of course do all the proper preparation before you start 
cranking. That includes insuring that the fuel is properly winterized 
and free of water, the battery is properly charged, the preglow system 
is working properly and the valves are adjusted so that none of them are 
tight. Then the pedal must be depressed to the floor at least once (2 or 
3 times won't hurt) and the pedal held at least half way down while 
cranking. I try to insure that the total preglow period before starting 
to crank is close to 30 seconds (that allows the plugs to reach their 
maximum 1180 deg. C. temp) and then I start cranking until the engine 
starts. If the actual temps are below the minimum start point (without a 
block heater) which is between 10 and 15 below zero F for my OM60x 
engines (with Mobil 1 in them), then I either need to use the block 
heater or at least blow heated air (say from a hair dryer) into the air 
intake for 3-5 minutes before I try to start the car.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] enlightened

[Redghost]

I doubt the veracity of this report

On Feb 15, 2007, at 6:37 AM, Burton wrote:



Robert Jovicic was born in France to Serbian parents, and moved with 
them to Australia two years afterwards.
Travel is undertaken in armoured vehicles designed to take the soft 
and white safely through the dangerous outlying suburbs of population 
centres.
The world public opinion knows that they are making mockery of 
themselves. ' It now transpires the earlier report was the reverse of 
the actual state of affairs - in fact twelve of the miners had died.
Whether we are at home, at work, shopping, or socialising, Coca Cola 
is available almost anywhere, within, say, five minutes. Now many in 
the West are speaking enviously of an edict that removes much of the 
worst of the West's cultural output from Iranian airwaves. In one 
incident in Australia's capital Canberra, the image of Downer's 
pixellated face was slapped several times about the cheeks. And one of 
them, after the Samara bombing, he put the gun in the head of one of 
the doctors, his surgeon, he said to him, "if my patient will die he 
will die after him".
Fresh reports that emerged last night of three additional incidents of 
contamination at the reactor, all occurring in the past week, are 
likewise of no concern for the public.
Fledgling media outlets in Iraq now replace reports of violence and 
mayhem with optimistic pieces featuring craggy faced American generals 
and worried-looking Iraqi politicians. But now difficult economic 
conditions have forced a rethink of the region's future with a focus 
on new efficiencies and the elimination of waste. Meanwhile old 
problems remain unresolved and costly. Fresh reports that emerged last 
night of three additional incidents of contamination at the reactor, 
all occurring in the past week, are likewise of no concern for the 
public.
Burning effigies of the American President have featured in television 
news bulletins in recent days in footage from Pakistan of protests 
against the coming visit. With the future of the country hanging in 
the balance, Israeli surgeons are reportedly attempting to establish a 
no-man's land inside Sharon' cranium in order to stop the flow of 
blood. Oddly, the streets are not yet filled with placard 
demonstrators waving hopeful for general broadening of Australia's 
contribution to the nuclear energy industry globally. Since the 
collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the old world order of the 
Twentieth Century, this process has quickened considerably. However, 
violent attacks on Western interests and those of the new Iraqi regime 
continue.
Representatives of the Western music industry are the most passionate 
opponents of the banning of exploitative smut on Iranian airwaves. But 
the attempts of the anti-nuclear lobby to spin a nightmarish tale from 
the incident have proved fruitless, with the nuclear accident in 
actuality nothing more than a red herring.
For many SBS viewers, this is far from the truth. Meanwhile the 
leaders of nations such as Syria and Iran are openly scathing of the 
policies of the United States, and of the character of her leaders. 
Several of al-Zarqawi's aides were killed in the sortie, including 
Sheik Abdul Rahman, the al Qa'eda leader's spiritual advisor.
Those least able to stand the heat now things are warming up 
considerably have unfortunately realised the extension of Western 
trinkets and luxuries to the world's population is just not feasible.
The programme was screened on Australia's SBS network, but for unknown 
reasons is seen no more in the Antipodes, to the detriment of 
satire-starved inhabitants of that US tributary.
All airlines and great pricesIran Nuclear ProgramGet Breaking News, 
Top Stories, and Headlines on Your Desktop Free! A thirteenth minor, 
the only survivor was taken to hospital with severe injuries. SBS 
content, particularly its news and current affairs programmes, is 
currently vastly superior to anything else on Australian television, 
including that of the ABC.
He threatened Coca-Cola may simply ignore India in future unless it is 
better treated by regulators and local judicial upstarts.

The insurgent threat is being addressed.
 --

Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] New Arrival!

[Redghost]

A mercedes driver for sure.  Happy to see Mom and baby are good.  Looks 
like you found the prime baby lodging spot -- on Papa's chest while the 
world dozes.


Congrats

On Feb 14, 2007, at 7:51 AM, TimothyPilgrim wrote:


I can't help but gloat. I'm a daddy!

Here he is! Gabriel Logan Campbell, born Feb. 10 at 11:31 am. 7 lbs 8
oz, 21 inches of perfection.

http://www.pbase.com/timothypilgrim/spuds_debut

Tim and Isabelle

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Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

[Trampas]

My 300SD when parked up hill would drain the fuel from the fuel filter. Then
it would start the next morning run for about 2 seconds and die. Never to
start again, would kill battery before starting. 

Found out that the fuel filter was allowing air to get in, but would not
leak fuel. Only found it after replacing fuel filter and noticing the filter
was loose, and after the problem was gone. At that point it was obvious,
that I should have pumped the primer. 

Trampas

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:34 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

<>

Reames wins!!  I pumped the primer pump for about 20 seconds, which I
suppose moved the fuel past whatever obstruction existed.  I would never
think of removing the air cleaner or starting a fire - very creative
suggestions, and both merit Honorable Mentions for Kaleb and Bill.

John - I don't think anyone here in D.C. brews Ristrettoes (Ristrettos?),
but you are welcome to the best that Puccini's has to offer.  Puccini's is a
small independent coffee shop located a couple blocks from the White House.
The barista is an Ethiopian named Isaac.  Let me know when you want to claim
your prize.

ALS
On 2/15/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Started a fire?  [OK, my mechanical skills are limited].
> BillR
> Jacksonville  FL
> 1981 300SD  284k miles
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler
>
>
> > OK, I have a puzzler.  Let's see how good you all are.  FIist correct
> > reply
> > wins a FREE Puccini coffee (must be collected in Washington, D.C.)
> >
> > 1985 300CD.  For the past week we plugged in the block heater and the
> car
> > started instantly and perfectly in gtemps. as low as 10 degrees F.
> > Yesterday, the alley was iced up so we had to park on the street
> > overnight,
> > with no way to plug in the block heater.  Temp. was 17 degrees this AM
> > with
> > a wind chill of maybe 5.  We glowed and kept glowing 10 seconds after
> the
> > light went out.  Engine turned but would not fire.  Tried twice more,
> > using
> > the gas pedal, but to no avail!  I had her pop the hood and try a fourth
> > time while I watched - still turned but no dice.  Battery was strong,
> > fortunately.  I stared at the engine, thought deeply and then fiddled
> with
> > something in the engine area.  I then myself tried to start it again
> using
> > the same preglow procedure.  This time the engine fired instantly and
> ran
> > flawlessly.
> >
> > Question:  What exactly did I do under the hood?
> >
> > Hint:  I have never done this before or heard of this tactic being used
> as
> > a
> > technique for getting a balky diesel to start in cold weather.  This
> > doesn't
> > prove or mean anything but then again, it might.
> >
> > Good luck, and apologies in advance if this puzzler is wya too
> elementary
> > and an insult to the collective Okiebenz intelligence.
> >
> > ALS
> >
> > On 2/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 2/14/2007 7:58:23 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >>
> >> Looks  like this dude has a Xferable warranty.
> >> You reckon it's one offered by the  dealer they charge a bizillion $s
> for
> >> when you buy the vehicle?
> >>
> >> Would  this be outside the years for sludge  issues?
> >>
> >> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/277567380.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bob,
> >>
> >> Jeez, that's right in your neighborhood.  I went to the PHx library
> >> today
> >> and checked the service bulletins in AllData again.  It says
> models  from
> >> 98 to
> >> 2001.  The TSB was issued 12/5/2003.  There may be later  ones, but I
> >> didn't
> >> see any.  The TSB did not discuss warranty pass  throughs, though it
> did
> >> caution dealers to check the FSS history for excessive  mileage between
> >> oil changes.
> >> Apparently the PCM maintains an internal  history of when the FSS was
> >> reset,
> >> and at what mileage on the oil.
> >>
> >> Jim  Friesen
> >> Phoenix AZ
> >> 79 300SD, 264 K miles
> >> 98 ML 320, 147 K  miles
> >>
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[MBZ] Injector questions

[B Dike]

All,

A couple question on injectors:

1) Will new nozzles reduce or eliminate leaking injectors?
2) Can new nozzles be properly installed without recalibrating the injectors 
with a pressure tester?

Thanks,



Bruce
82 300CD 348kmi 'His'
85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place
74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen'
73 220D 'Fnu Lnu'
 
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1. Depends on the leak souce. Internal dripping, yes. External leak, no.

2. No, but most just install them anyway.

Tom Hargrave

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Subject: [MBZ] Injector questions

All,

A couple question on injectors:

1) Will new nozzles reduce or eliminate leaking injectors?
2) Can new nozzles be properly installed without recalibrating the
injectors with a pressure tester?

Thanks,



Bruce
82 300CD 348kmi 'His'
85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place
74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen'
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Re: [MBZ] Hurry! Less than 2 hoursa to bid on cheap 123 gasser

[andrew strasfogel]

Creepercavy has more problems than a car that "leeks" fuel.

On 2/15/07, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


No affiliation. Ebay item # 330086656121



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1979-mercedes-benz-280-e-RARE-european-mo
del_W0QQitemZ330086656121QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Seller says has fuel problems, but it is going for less than $400.  Car
is in Wichita, KS



Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 134K

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[MBZ] Hurry! Less than 2 hoursa to bid on cheap 123 gasser

[Donald Snook]

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Seller says has fuel problems, but it is going for less than $400.  Car
is in Wichita, KS

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 134K

Re: [MBZ] enlightened

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:34:44 -0600 Rich Thomas
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Somebody got spam.  Wonder what that attachment has in it?

It's a picture of text that says,

   Foreign Orange Market Ready to Explode!

   China Fruits Corporation
   Symbol: CBFR
   Price: $0.72

   California is already reporting over $1 Billion in
   losses in the Orange market due to unexpected
   freezing. Reports indicate a increase of 21% in
   imported juice. CBFR is primed for huge returns
   this year, as a China based producer of Oranges
   and Orange products. This may be your best
   investment this year. Act fast and grab CBFR First
   thing Thursday morning.


And if you believe that ...

Besides, what happens to CBFR when the California orange producers
recover, presumably next year?


Craig

Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

[andrew strasfogel]

<>

Reames wins!!  I pumped the primer pump for about 20 seconds, which I
suppose moved the fuel past whatever obstruction existed.  I would never
think of removing the air cleaner or starting a fire - very creative
suggestions, and both merit Honorable Mentions for Kaleb and Bill.

John - I don't think anyone here in D.C. brews Ristrettoes (Ristrettos?),
but you are welcome to the best that Puccini's has to offer.  Puccini's is a
small independent coffee shop located a couple blocks from the White House.
The barista is an Ethiopian named Isaac.  Let me know when you want to claim
your prize.

ALS
On 2/15/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Started a fire?  [OK, my mechanical skills are limited].
BillR
Jacksonville  FL
1981 300SD  284k miles

- Original Message -
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler


> OK, I have a puzzler.  Let's see how good you all are.  FIist correct
> reply
> wins a FREE Puccini coffee (must be collected in Washington, D.C.)
>
> 1985 300CD.  For the past week we plugged in the block heater and the
car
> started instantly and perfectly in gtemps. as low as 10 degrees F.
> Yesterday, the alley was iced up so we had to park on the street
> overnight,
> with no way to plug in the block heater.  Temp. was 17 degrees this AM
> with
> a wind chill of maybe 5.  We glowed and kept glowing 10 seconds after
the
> light went out.  Engine turned but would not fire.  Tried twice more,
> using
> the gas pedal, but to no avail!  I had her pop the hood and try a fourth
> time while I watched - still turned but no dice.  Battery was strong,
> fortunately.  I stared at the engine, thought deeply and then fiddled
with
> something in the engine area.  I then myself tried to start it again
using
> the same preglow procedure.  This time the engine fired instantly and
ran
> flawlessly.
>
> Question:  What exactly did I do under the hood?
>
> Hint:  I have never done this before or heard of this tactic being used
as
> a
> technique for getting a balky diesel to start in cold weather.  This
> doesn't
> prove or mean anything but then again, it might.
>
> Good luck, and apologies in advance if this puzzler is wya too
elementary
> and an insult to the collective Okiebenz intelligence.
>
> ALS
>
> On 2/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 2/14/2007 7:58:23 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>
>> Looks  like this dude has a Xferable warranty.
>> You reckon it's one offered by the  dealer they charge a bizillion $s
for
>> when you buy the vehicle?
>>
>> Would  this be outside the years for sludge  issues?
>>
>> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/277567380.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Jeez, that's right in your neighborhood.  I went to the PHx library
>> today
>> and checked the service bulletins in AllData again.  It says
models  from
>> 98 to
>> 2001.  The TSB was issued 12/5/2003.  There may be later  ones, but I
>> didn't
>> see any.  The TSB did not discuss warranty pass  throughs, though it
did
>> caution dealers to check the FSS history for excessive  mileage between
>> oil changes.
>> Apparently the PCM maintains an internal  history of when the FSS was
>> reset,
>> and at what mileage on the oil.
>>
>> Jim  Friesen
>> Phoenix AZ
>> 79 300SD, 264 K miles
>> 98 ML 320, 147 K  miles
>>
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Re: [MBZ] MB myths

[Rusty Cullens]

Yes, perhaps next year he'll do that!


- Original Message -
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB myths


> You would think Rusty would rebate his tuition savings to his customers,
but
> nooo. he has beterr things to do with his $$ thousands.
>
> Of course, I speak in jest, because Rusty is already his customers' best
> friend.
> (shameless pander).
>
>
> On 2/15/07, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I already did.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB myths
> >
> >
> > > Trampas typeth:
> > >
> > > "I thought it was funny as I paid $2200 for my car. Of course I have
> > helped
> > > put Rusty's kids through college... "
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Sealant for Cylinder Liners

[JFreezn]

 
In a message dated 2/15/2007 2:37:34 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

After  having skimmed the block of my 300D  engine there are a few  spots
where there is a gap visible between cyl block and liner - should I  fill
this gap with something ? Or leave it.



Peter,
 
I have resleeved three different MB diesels and never had a  gap.   I would 
be concerned that the sleeves were correct and/or that  the work was done 
properly.  
 
Not withstanding the above, I would fill any gaps to provide both support  
and heat tranfer.  JB Weld will fill gaps and stay permanently.  Just  make 
sure 
it does not protrude above the machined surface of the block.  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles 
98 ML 320, 147 K  miles

Re: [MBZ] MB myths

[andrew strasfogel]

You would think Rusty would rebate his tuition savings to his customers, but
nooo. he has beterr things to do with his $$ thousands.

Of course, I speak in jest, because Rusty is already his customers' best
friend.
(shameless pander).


On 2/15/07, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I already did.


- Original Message -
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB myths


> Trampas typeth:
>
> "I thought it was funny as I paid $2200 for my car. Of course I have
helped
> put Rusty's kids through college... "
>
> Rusty lives in Jawja where you don't have to pay to put kids through
school
> if they have earned good grades...
> He must be socking it away to buy an island somewhere.
>
> Bob R
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

[BillR]

Started a fire?  [OK, my mechanical skills are limited].
BillR
Jacksonville  FL
1981 300SD  284k miles

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From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler


OK, I have a puzzler.  Let's see how good you all are.  FIist correct 
reply

wins a FREE Puccini coffee (must be collected in Washington, D.C.)

1985 300CD.  For the past week we plugged in the block heater and the car
started instantly and perfectly in gtemps. as low as 10 degrees F.
Yesterday, the alley was iced up so we had to park on the street 
overnight,
with no way to plug in the block heater.  Temp. was 17 degrees this AM 
with

a wind chill of maybe 5.  We glowed and kept glowing 10 seconds after the
light went out.  Engine turned but would not fire.  Tried twice more, 
using

the gas pedal, but to no avail!  I had her pop the hood and try a fourth
time while I watched - still turned but no dice.  Battery was strong,
fortunately.  I stared at the engine, thought deeply and then fiddled with
something in the engine area.  I then myself tried to start it again using
the same preglow procedure.  This time the engine fired instantly and ran
flawlessly.

Question:  What exactly did I do under the hood?

Hint:  I have never done this before or heard of this tactic being used as 
a
technique for getting a balky diesel to start in cold weather.  This 
doesn't

prove or mean anything but then again, it might.

Good luck, and apologies in advance if this puzzler is wya too elementary
and an insult to the collective Okiebenz intelligence.

ALS

On 2/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



In a message dated 2/14/2007 7:58:23 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Looks  like this dude has a Xferable warranty.
You reckon it's one offered by the  dealer they charge a bizillion $s for
when you buy the vehicle?

Would  this be outside the years for sludge  issues?

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/277567380.html



Bob,

Jeez, that's right in your neighborhood.  I went to the PHx library 
today

and checked the service bulletins in AllData again.  It says models  from
98 to
2001.  The TSB was issued 12/5/2003.  There may be later  ones, but I
didn't
see any.  The TSB did not discuss warranty pass  throughs, though it did
caution dealers to check the FSS history for excessive  mileage between
oil changes.
Apparently the PCM maintains an internal  history of when the FSS was
reset,
and at what mileage on the oil.

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles
98 ML 320, 147 K  miles

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Re: [MBZ] enlightened

[Rich Thomas]

Somebody got spam.  Wonder what that attachment has in it?

--R

  

Re: [MBZ] Sludge Issues/my 0.02

[jwreames]

*D'oh!*
-j.
--
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1985 300D (223K "Gerta")
1991 Cherokee (149K "the fishbowl")
1999 E300Dt (142K "Hans")
1999 E300Dt (108K "Frantz")

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> "What year is the Acura? the 300D?" 
> 
> Bob Rentfro 
> '77 300D 167K 
> '87 Acura Legend 182K 
> Litchfield Park, AZ 
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removed the lid for the air cleaner?

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> OK, I have a puzzler.  Let's see how good you all are.  FIist correct reply
> wins a FREE Puccini coffee (must be collected in Washington, D.C.)
> 
> 1985 300CD.  For the past week we plugged in the block heater and the car
> started instantly and perfectly in gtemps. as low as 10 degrees F.
> Yesterday, the alley was iced up so we had to park on the street overnight,
> with no way to plug in the block heater.  Temp. was 17 degrees this AM with
> a wind chill of maybe 5.  We glowed and kept glowing 10 seconds after the
> light went out.  Engine turned but would not fire.  Tried twice more, using
> the gas pedal, but to no avail!  I had her pop the hood and try a fourth
> time while I watched - still turned but no dice.  Battery was strong,
> fortunately.  I stared at the engine, thought deeply and then fiddled with
> something in the engine area.  I then myself tried to start it again using
> the same preglow procedure.  This time the engine fired instantly and ran
> flawlessly.
> 
> Question:  What exactly did I do under the hood?
> 
> Hint:  I have never done this before or heard of this tactic being used as a
> technique for getting a balky diesel to start in cold weather.  This doesn't
> prove or mean anything but then again, it might.
> 
> Good luck, and apologies in advance if this puzzler is wya too elementary
> and an insult to the collective Okiebenz intelligence.
> 
> ALS
> 
> On 2/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> In a message dated 2/14/2007 7:58:23 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>
>> Looks  like this dude has a Xferable warranty.
>> You reckon it's one offered by the  dealer they charge a bizillion $s for
>> when you buy the vehicle?
>>
>> Would  this be outside the years for sludge  issues?
>>
>> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/277567380.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Jeez, that's right in your neighborhood.  I went to the PHx library  today
>> and checked the service bulletins in AllData again.  It says models  from
>> 98 to
>> 2001.  The TSB was issued 12/5/2003.  There may be later  ones, but I
>> didn't
>> see any.  The TSB did not discuss warranty pass  throughs, though it did
>> caution dealers to check the FSS history for excessive  mileage between
>> oil changes.
>> Apparently the PCM maintains an internal  history of when the FSS was
>> reset,
>> and at what mileage on the oil.
>>
>> Jim  Friesen
>> Phoenix AZ
>> 79 300SD, 264 K miles
>> 98 ML 320, 147 K  miles
>>
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Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

[jwreames]

I'm going to guess you utilized the primer pump.

Ristretto -- double, 1/2 teaspoon sugar.

That ice we got was pretty nasty. (Baltimore city at night, Reston, VA during 
the day)

-j.
--
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1985 300d (223K "Gerta")
1991 Cherokee (149K "the fishbowl")
1999 E300Dt (141K "Hans")
1999 E300Dt (106K "Frantz")

-- Original message -- 
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> OK, I have a puzzler. Let's see how good you all are. FIist correct reply 
> wins a FREE Puccini coffee (must be collected in Washington, D.C.) 
> 
> 1985 300CD. For the past week we plugged in the block heater and the car 
> started instantly and perfectly in gtemps. as low as 10 degrees F. 
> Yesterday, the alley was iced up so we had to park on the street overnight, 
> with no way to plug in the block heater. Temp. was 17 degrees this AM with 
> a wind chill of maybe 5. We glowed and kept glowing 10 seconds after the 
> light went out. Engine turned but would not fire. Tried twice more, using 
> the gas pedal, but to no avail! I had her pop the hood and try a fourth 
> time while I watched - still turned but no dice. Battery was strong, 
> fortunately. I stared at the engine, thought deeply and then fiddled with 
> something in the engine area. I then myself tried to start it again using 
> the same preglow procedure. This time the engine fired instantly and ran 
> flawlessly. 
> 
> Question: What exactly did I do under the hood? 
> 
> Hint: I have never done this before or heard of this tactic being used as a 
> technique for getting a balky diesel to start in cold weather. This doesn't 
> prove or mean anything but then again, it might. 
> 
> Good luck, and apologies in advance if this puzzler is wya too elementary 
> and an insult to the collective Okiebenz intelligence. 
> 
> ALS 
> 
> On 2/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated 2/14/2007 7:58:23 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
> > 
> > Looks like this dude has a Xferable warranty. 
> > You reckon it's one offered by the dealer they charge a bizillion $s for 
> > when you buy the vehicle? 
> > 
> > Would this be outside the years for sludge issues? 
> > 
> > http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/277567380.html 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bob, 
> > 
> > Jeez, that's right in your neighborhood. I went to the PHx library today 
> > and checked the service bulletins in AllData again. It says models from 
> > 98 to 
> > 2001. The TSB was issued 12/5/2003. There may be later ones, but I 
> > didn't 
> > see any. The TSB did not discuss warranty pass throughs, though it did 
> > caution dealers to check the FSS history for excessive mileage between 
> > oil changes. 
> > Apparently the PCM maintains an internal history of when the FSS was 
> > reset, 
> > and at what mileage on the oil. 
> > 
> > Jim Friesen 
> > Phoenix AZ 
> > 79 300SD, 264 K miles 
> > 98 ML 320, 147 K miles 
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

[Rich Thomas]

You switched over to the diesel pedal?

I'll have a large libretto, thank you.

--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:

OK, I have a puzzler.  Let's see how good you all are.  FIist correct reply
wins a FREE Puccini coffee (must be collected in Washington, D.C.)

Tried twice more, using
the gas pedal, but to no avail!
  

Re: [MBZ] MB myths

[Rusty Cullens]

I already did.


- Original Message -
From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB myths


> Trampas typeth:
>
> "I thought it was funny as I paid $2200 for my car. Of course I have
helped
> put Rusty's kids through college... "
>
> Rusty lives in Jawja where you don't have to pay to put kids through
school
> if they have earned good grades...
> He must be socking it away to buy an island somewhere.
>
> Bob R
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Sludge Issues/my 0.02

[Bob Rentfro]

"What year is the Acura? the 300D?"

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 167K
'87 Acura Legend  182K
Litchfield Park, AZ



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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sludge Issues/my 0.02



On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Bob Rentfro wrote:

The 300D @ 167K miles "uses" about 2.5 qts between 3K mile Delvac 
changes.

The Acura @ 182K miles uses NONE between 3K Penzoil 20/50 changes.

What year is the Acura? the 300D?

Some of the 617's had an issue with the rocker cover (needing epoxy some
place) which lead to excessive blow-by, and the separator in the air
cleaner just couldn't keep up. The 84 I had with close to 200K when
totaled was maybe a qt between 3k changes, and a fair amount of that was
leaking.  The 603 engines dont seem to use any (my brother put in excess
of 70K on an 87 SDL in about 2.5-3 years and did not need to add any
between changes). The 606's seem pretty close to oil-tight. One of the
99's that I have "uses" about 1qt/4k, BUT its leaking from the oil cooler
lines. The other one, well I can't really measure the consumption on it.

When you compare engines, it only seems fair to compare engines of similar
ages/design eras...

just my thoughts
-j.




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Re: [MBZ] WAS Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff NOW Today's Puzzler

[andrew strasfogel]

OK, I have a puzzler.  Let's see how good you all are.  FIist correct reply
wins a FREE Puccini coffee (must be collected in Washington, D.C.)

1985 300CD.  For the past week we plugged in the block heater and the car
started instantly and perfectly in gtemps. as low as 10 degrees F.
Yesterday, the alley was iced up so we had to park on the street overnight,
with no way to plug in the block heater.  Temp. was 17 degrees this AM with
a wind chill of maybe 5.  We glowed and kept glowing 10 seconds after the
light went out.  Engine turned but would not fire.  Tried twice more, using
the gas pedal, but to no avail!  I had her pop the hood and try a fourth
time while I watched - still turned but no dice.  Battery was strong,
fortunately.  I stared at the engine, thought deeply and then fiddled with
something in the engine area.  I then myself tried to start it again using
the same preglow procedure.  This time the engine fired instantly and ran
flawlessly.

Question:  What exactly did I do under the hood?

Hint:  I have never done this before or heard of this tactic being used as a
technique for getting a balky diesel to start in cold weather.  This doesn't
prove or mean anything but then again, it might.

Good luck, and apologies in advance if this puzzler is wya too elementary
and an insult to the collective Okiebenz intelligence.

ALS

On 2/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



In a message dated 2/14/2007 7:58:23 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Looks  like this dude has a Xferable warranty.
You reckon it's one offered by the  dealer they charge a bizillion $s for
when you buy the vehicle?

Would  this be outside the years for sludge  issues?

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/277567380.html



Bob,

Jeez, that's right in your neighborhood.  I went to the PHx library  today
and checked the service bulletins in AllData again.  It says models  from
98 to
2001.  The TSB was issued 12/5/2003.  There may be later  ones, but I
didn't
see any.  The TSB did not discuss warranty pass  throughs, though it did
caution dealers to check the FSS history for excessive  mileage between
oil changes.
Apparently the PCM maintains an internal  history of when the FSS was
reset,
and at what mileage on the oil.

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles
98 ML 320, 147 K  miles

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Re: [MBZ] Valentine Day CL list

[andrew strasfogel]

My rusty german should have informed me that feuer = fire.  D'OH!

This reminds me of the Smothers Brothers song about the guy that fell into a
vat of chocolate and yelled "FIRE".  His thinking was that no one would
rescue him if he had yelled "CHOCOLATE!".

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On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:04:05 -0500 "andrew strasfogel"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is this an ambulance?  How cool can that be!

Actually, it's a fire truck, so it's pretty hot. :-)


Craig

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[MBZ] Sealant for Cylinder Liners

[Peter Merle]

After having skimmed the block of my 300D  engine there are a few spots
where there is a gap visible between cyl block and liner - should I fill
this gap with something ? Or leave it.

Peter

Re: [MBZ] Sludge Issues/Warranty Stuff

[JFreezn]

 
In a message dated 2/14/2007 7:58:23 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Looks  like this dude has a Xferable warranty.
You reckon it's one offered by the  dealer they charge a bizillion $s for 
when you buy the vehicle?

Would  this be outside the years for sludge  issues?

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/277567380.html



Bob,
 
Jeez, that's right in your neighborhood.  I went to the PHx library  today 
and checked the service bulletins in AllData again.  It says models  from 98 to 
2001.  The TSB was issued 12/5/2003.  There may be later  ones, but I didn't 
see any.  The TSB did not discuss warranty pass  throughs, though it did 
caution dealers to check the FSS history for excessive  mileage between oil 
changes. 
 Apparently the PCM maintains an internal  history of when the FSS was reset, 
and at what mileage on the oil.  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles 
98 ML 320, 147 K  miles

Re: [MBZ] New Arrival!

[Mitch Haley]

Mitch Haley wrote:
> 
> Somewhere a MIT prof has a web page about college pricing.

Should have searched before I sent that message. Here it is:
http://philip.greenspun.com/school/tuition-free-mit.html

Re: [MBZ] MB myths

[Mitch Haley]

tom savage wrote:
> 
> Equally important is how the car is used.  As an extreme example, UPS
> package cars are maintained like nothing else, but a Cummins 6BT is
> lucky to go 300k miles before it wears out; they're often toast at 250k.
>   The Chebby 292s are only good for 120k (yeah, they've still got cars
> from the late '70s out running around).
> 
> Constant heavy loads, abusive drivers, and a couple hundred starts a day
>   add up pretty quickly.  Stupid low gearing on some of them doesn't
> help, either; a 5.81:1 rear end and a four speed with granny first gear
> has the engine pretty wound up all the time. 

My driver showed me his car a few years ago. 1995 model, 12v 6BT, Bosch P7100,
Spicer 5sp/OD, I think it had about 295k on it and was running just fine. When
you listen to them run through the gears you get the impression that it's
full throttle every time unless somebody is in front of them. 

Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] New Arrival!

[Mitch Haley]

LT Don wrote:
> But thanks to academic scholarships, grants and student loans, you don't
> have to write out a check for the whole thing every May. 

Somewhere a MIT prof has a web page about college pricing. He calls it
the perfect racket for extracting monopoly rents. You set the price way
high, and then out of the goodness of your heart guarantee that anybody
can afford to attend. Then you collect more data from the families than
if they were applying for a mortgage, use the data to determine the very
most that they can afford to pay, and charge them that. 
Mitch.

[MBZ] DaimlerChrysler or Daimler, Chrysler?

[Craig McCluskey]

An emotional day for Chrysler's workers in Warren
http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070214/BUSINESS01/70214011

Daimler open to partial sale of Chrysler
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17149205/

Detroit___s Slump Could Break Up Chrysler Group
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/15/business/15auto.html?ei=5094&en=b87e6eeff177df5b&hp=&ex=1171515600&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print


Craig

Re: [MBZ] New Arrival!

[OK Don]

Congratulations to you and especially to Mom!!! Enjoy - some of my
best memories are lying down with the little one sleeping on my chest.

On 2/14/07, TimothyPilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I can't help but gloat. I'm a daddy!

Here he is! Gabriel Logan Campbell, born Feb. 10 at 11:31 am. 7 lbs 8
oz, 21 inches of perfection.

http://www.pbase.com/timothypilgrim/spuds_debut


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Norman, OK
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there."
Will Rogers
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Re: [MBZ] Sludge Issues/my 0.02

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

hahahahahaha

Marshall Booth wrote:

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
He doesnt have to be shy, hell, Im shy too.  I will even provide his 
accommodations.


I'm not shy, I'm just a recluse.

Marshall


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 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] New Arrival!

[M. Mitchell Marmel]

At 10:51 AM -0500 2/14/07, TimothyPilgrim wrote:

I can't help but gloat. I'm a daddy!


Yay!


Here he is! Gabriel Logan Campbell, born Feb. 10 at 11:31 am. 7 lbs 8
oz, 21 inches of perfection.


Congrats!

Er...

Separated at birth?

http://www.pbase.com/timothypilgrim/image/74293673

http://membres.lycos.fr/rubmann/GOERING.GIF

-MMM-
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
He doesnt have to be shy, hell, Im shy too.  I will even provide his 
accommodations.


I'm not shy, I'm just a recluse.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] MB myths

[tom savage]

Trampas wrote:

I have always said it is more than just the car, it is if the owner can
afford the maintenance. I have seen a 1970 Oldsmobile go well over 350k
miles. I have seen Ford Escorts with 200k miles. Generally it all comes down
to keeping the car repaired and maintained. Most people that buy cheap cars
are well cheap and can not afford to keep them maintained. 


If you fix every little thing when it goes bad, the car will last forever.
If you wait too long to fix the little things they add up to point where it
is not worth fixing. 


Equally important is how the car is used.  As an extreme example, UPS 
package cars are maintained like nothing else, but a Cummins 6BT is 
lucky to go 300k miles before it wears out; they're often toast at 250k. 
 The Chebby 292s are only good for 120k (yeah, they've still got cars 
from the late '70s out running around).


Constant heavy loads, abusive drivers, and a couple hundred starts a day 
 add up pretty quickly.  Stupid low gearing on some of them doesn't 
help, either; a 5.81:1 rear end and a four speed with granny first gear 
has the engine pretty wound up all the time.  We'll see how the new 
Sprinters and MBE900-engined Freightliners hold up, but I'm not 
expecting much more than the domestic stuff can do.


Meanwhile, my old 300D soldiers on to 350k of easy highway commuting. 
It still starts in really cold weather no matter how much I neglect the 
winter maintenance stuff we're all supposed to do. (But I did replace a 
bad glow plug on Sunday.)


Tom

Re: [MBZ] New Arrival!

[John W. Reames III]

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, Chuck Landenberger wrote:

> Congrats to Mother and Son...  Tim, your contribution was over a long  
> time ago.  Now the real work and great pleasure begins!  Never stop  
> talking WITH your son!
Its nice if you can start REAL early... When I come home, Ethan instantly 
turns to look at me with a big smile) much to Laura's chagrin if she is 
feeding him  Anyhow I hope he is a wonderfully easy little boy!
-j.

Re: [MBZ] Valentine Day CL list

[Craig McCluskey]

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:04:05 -0500 "andrew strasfogel"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is this an ambulance?  How cool can that be!

Actually, it's a fire truck, so it's pretty hot. :-)


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Sludge Issues/my 0.02

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

He doesnt have to be shy, hell, Im shy too.  I will even provide his 
accommodations.


Gary Hurst wrote:

yeah, well, good luck.  marshall is shy, right, herr doktor?

obviously well worth it if you can pull it off

On 2/14/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Speaking of Booth, we need to get him out here for the next OkieQ.
Maybe it could coordinate with his yearly trip to Muskogee which is
about 25 miles from my house.

Gary Hurst wrote:

there was very little strategic planning, but, yes, i did it.  it
really came down to issuing the statement of "if you don't sign this
booth guy up, you won't have anything other than freaks like us, so
don't count me in until you get him"

and that is how mashall booth is the originator of the "legitimate"
side of mbz.org and perhaps the main reason why he is always a hero in
my mind.

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  (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
  87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] New Arrival!

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

congrats

TimothyPilgrim wrote:

I can't help but gloat. I'm a daddy!

Here he is! Gabriel Logan Campbell, born Feb. 10 at 11:31 am. 7 lbs 8
oz, 21 inches of perfection.

http://www.pbase.com/timothypilgrim/spuds_debut

Tim and Isabelle

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 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] New Arrival!

[John W. Reames III]

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, TimothyPilgrim wrote:

> I can't help but gloat. I'm a daddy!
> 
> Here he is! Gabriel Logan Campbell, born Feb. 10 at 11:31 am. 7 lbs 8
> oz, 21 inches of perfection.
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/timothypilgrim/spuds_debut
> 
> Tim and Isabelle

Congrats!
-j.

Re: [MBZ] Sludge Issues/my 0.02

[John W. Reames III]

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Bob Rentfro wrote:

> The 300D @ 167K miles "uses" about 2.5 qts between 3K mile Delvac changes.
> The Acura @ 182K miles uses NONE between 3K Penzoil 20/50 changes. 
What year is the Acura? the 300D?

Some of the 617's had an issue with the rocker cover (needing epoxy some 
place) which lead to excessive blow-by, and the separator in the air 
cleaner just couldn't keep up. The 84 I had with close to 200K when 
totaled was maybe a qt between 3k changes, and a fair amount of that was 
leaking.  The 603 engines dont seem to use any (my brother put in excess 
of 70K on an 87 SDL in about 2.5-3 years and did not need to add any 
between changes). The 606's seem pretty close to oil-tight. One of the 
99's that I have "uses" about 1qt/4k, BUT its leaking from the oil cooler 
lines. The other one, well I can't really measure the consumption on it.

When you compare engines, it only seems fair to compare engines of similar 
ages/design eras...

just my thoughts
-j.