Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics
There is not that much traffic on it now, maybe 60-70 a day on a busy day. John Robbins wrote: Banned was awesome when I was on it (for about 3 months ~3 years ago)... but holy cow 500+ emails a day was just too much. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: thats true, maybe I should set up sort of a banned lite Gary Hurst wrote: yeah, but those banned list guys use a lot of bad words and are racist, misogynist, homophobic, anti-semitic and all the rest . yeah, just like any other really fancy club in america :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics
banned has more subscribers now than it ever did before. Gary Hurst wrote: kleb has run off most everyone, so you needn't worry about too many emails today -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
[MBZ] new mascot
Bought the wife an english bulldog for her birthday, we are naming it Diesel. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new mascot
it's a drooling dog. i won't mess with any drooling dog. On 2/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bought the wife an english bulldog for her birthday, we are naming it Diesel. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics
just no posts every consider a job in politics? On 2/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: banned has more subscribers now than it ever did before. Gary Hurst wrote: kleb has run off most everyone, so you needn't worry about too many emails today -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Golly, I hope I'm not on crack
V Layton wrote: PS My Club IS cooking along, (too much too fast actually, but nonetheless exhilerating for me) and we have 3 events planned in St. Louis this year, I don't know if anyone cares to be updated on my progress, I don't want to be a pest... I care! :) Wish I'd have known you were selling parts a little earlier; I just bought a cache of 123 parts on craigslist, the only problem being that they're all the way down in Cape Goober... Vince, do you by chance have or know where I might find a set of French-spec jaune selectif fog light reflectors for Bosch 123 headlights? Tom
[MBZ] 300SD for $250
Just got a call from the guy selling the car. Turns out it is a 1985 300SD, 159k miles. He says the interior is pretty good, but needs cleaning and the windows don't work exactly right. It is green with a green interior. My main interest in the car is the transmission, which he says is good. If I can pull that and put it in my 1981 300SD that would be quite helpful as mine is starting to have more issues than I am happy with. Anyone have knowledge about that? VIN is WDBCB20C3FA094583 I'd appreciate knowing what that shows if someone will run it for me.. Thanks - - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 285k miles
Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250
BillR wrote: VIN is WDBCB20C3FA094583 I'd appreciate knowing what that shows if someone will run it for me.. I don't have a carfax account but just buy the car already!!! Who cares what the history on a $250 car is? Well... I wouldn't be to worried about it anyway ;) John
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics
ROTFLMAO!!! Mike - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics yeah, but those banned list guys use a lot of bad words and are racist, misogynist, homophobic, anti-semitic and all the rest . yeah, just like any other really fancy club in america :) On 2/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As has been mentioned before, this list is no place for discussion of politics. OT content is just fine and keeps the list interesting, but has lately been diluted with politics. I do not want to see anymore political discussions at all. That is what the banned list is for. If you want to talk about it, banned is the place to go. If you have a problem understanding this, please contact me offlist with your questions. I have been receiving numerous complaints about the excessive OT political conversations so it ends now. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics
thank you thank you try the veal! On 2/28/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROTFLMAO!!! Mike - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics yeah, but those banned list guys use a lot of bad words and are racist, misogynist, homophobic, anti-semitic and all the rest . yeah, just like any other really fancy club in america :) On 2/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As has been mentioned before, this list is no place for discussion of politics. OT content is just fine and keeps the list interesting, but has lately been diluted with politics. I do not want to see anymore political discussions at all. That is what the banned list is for. If you want to talk about it, banned is the place to go. If you have a problem understanding this, please contact me offlist with your questions. I have been receiving numerous complaints about the excessive OT political conversations so it ends now. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250
You are correct on that count. I'll actually be putting more weight on the knowledge from the list about the possibility of a transmission swap. Main concern for a carfax is if the 159k is some multiple of that. He did mention that the RF blinker assembly is missing. I plan a trip tomorrow. BillR - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250 BillR wrote: VIN is WDBCB20C3FA094583 I'd appreciate knowing what that shows if someone will run it for me.. I don't have a carfax account but just buy the car already!!! Who cares what the history on a $250 car is? Well... I wouldn't be to worried about it anyway ;) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics
things like LOL and ROTFLMAO kinda creep me out - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics ROTFLMAO!!! Mike - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics yeah, but those banned list guys use a lot of bad words and are racist, misogynist, homophobic, anti-semitic and all the rest . yeah, just like any other really fancy club in america :) On 2/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As has been mentioned before, this list is no place for discussion of politics. OT content is just fine and keeps the list interesting, but has lately been diluted with politics. I do not want to see anymore political discussions at all. That is what the banned list is for. If you want to talk about it, banned is the place to go. If you have a problem understanding this, please contact me offlist with your questions. I have been receiving numerous complaints about the excessive OT political conversations so it ends now. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics
Yes, but not with a group of people with such similar interests Mike - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thats true, maybe I should set up sort of a banned lite I was on another (non-MB) list that had what they called the water-cooler list for random discussions which ended up being mostly political. But, not sure why you would feel obligated to provide that -- there are a bazillion political forums on the internet already, anyone who is interested in talking politics could easily find an arena in which to do so. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics
Well put. Mike - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics We do not want to talk politics in general, we do want to share our thoughts and feelings with people we like and trust. Banned allows us to do that without hurt feelings On Feb 28, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thats true, maybe I should set up sort of a banned lite I was on another (non-MB) list that had what they called the water-cooler list for random discussions which ended up being mostly political. But, not sure why you would feel obligated to provide that -- there are a bazillion political forums on the internet already, anyone who is interested in talking politics could easily find an arena in which to do so. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250
IIRC, the torque converter to crankshaft centering pin is larger on the '85 than the earlier 617 engine/tranny combinations. If I'm remembering correctly, the torque converter from the $250 car won't fit your engine. Hopefully, someone with direct experience will chime in here -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250
BillR wrote: You are correct on that count. I'll actually be putting more weight on the knowledge from the list about the possibility of a transmission swap. My thought is that you may want to use the existing TQ with the new tranny. I'm not sure how you'd clean/flush it, but it should be possible with the drain plug. (the alternative would be to swap the crankshaft or rebore the hole in the crank)
Re: [MBZ] Golly, I hope I'm not on crack
Dont forget, your used parts purchases from Okiebenz are what funds this list. tom savage wrote: V Layton wrote: PS My Club IS cooking along, (too much too fast actually, but nonetheless exhilerating for me) and we have 3 events planned in St. Louis this year, I don't know if anyone cares to be updated on my progress, I don't want to be a pest... I care! :) Wish I'd have known you were selling parts a little earlier; I just bought a cache of 123 parts on craigslist, the only problem being that they're all the way down in Cape Goober... Vince, do you by chance have or know where I might find a set of French-spec jaune selectif fog light reflectors for Bosch 123 headlights? Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250
The 85 tranny will not work in a 81 Report Run Date: 02/28/2007 Vehicle Description: WDBCB20C3FA094583 TitleCheck: No Record Reported to AutoCheck Problem Check: No Record Reported to AutoCheck Odometer Check: Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck Vehicle Information: Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck Full History: Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History VIN: WDBCB20C3FA094583 Year: 1985 Make: Mercedes-Benz Model: 300 Series 300SD Style/Body: 4 Door Sedan Engine: 3.0L I-5 Tbo Country of Assembly: Germany Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300SD (WDBCB20C3FA094583) show no significant Title events. When found, events often indicate past automotive damage or warnings associated with the vehicle title. Problems Checked Results Found AbandonedNo Abandoned Record Reported to AutoCheck DamagedNo Damaged Record Reported to AutoCheck Fire DamageNo Fire Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck Grey MarketNo Grey Market Record Reported to AutoCheck Hail DamageNo Hail Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck Insurance LossNo Insurance Loss Record Reported to AutoCheck JunkNo Junk Record Reported to AutoCheck Rebuilt/RebuildableNo Rebuilt/Rebuildable Record Reported to AutoCheck SalvageNo Salvage Record Reported to AutoCheck Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300SD (WDBCB20C3FA094583) shows no historical events that indicate a significant automotive problem. These problems can indicate previous car damage, theft, or other significant problem. Problems Checked Results Found NHTSA Crash Test VehicleNo NHTSA Crash Test Record Reported to AutoCheck Frame DamageNo Frame Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck Major Damage IncidentNo Major Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck Manufacturer Buyback/LemonNo Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Record Reported to AutoCheck Odometer ProblemNo Odometer Problem Record Reported to AutoCheck RecycledNo Recycled Record Reported to AutoCheck Salvage AuctionNo Salvage Auction Record Reported to AutoCheck Water DamageNo Water Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History Your Vehicle Checks Out! For this 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300SD (WDBCB20C3FA094583) no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. We calculate odometer rollbacks by using AutoCheck business rules to determine reported odometer readings are less than a previously reported value. Other odometer events can report events of tampering, or possible odometer breakage. AutoCheck's business rules have been created and refined to help identify potential rollbacks from the reported odometer readings. Not all odometer readings are used to determine rollbacks. Report Date: 02/28/2007 Date Reported Odometer Reading 06/24/1994 160,000 06/22/1995 190,000 06/20/1996 204,000 Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History Information Found! AutoCheck found additional information on this vehicle. These records will provide you with more past history for this 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300SD (WDBCB20C3FA094583). Problems Checked Results Found Accident DataNo Accidents Reported Through State Agencies Or Independent Sources Corrected TitleNo Corrected Title Record Reported to AutoCheck Driver EducationNo Driver Education Record Reported to AutoCheck Duplicate TitleNo Duplicate Title Record Reported to AutoCheck Emission/Safety InspectionEmission/Safety Inspection Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck Fire Damage IncidentNo Fire Damage Incident Record Reported to AutoCheck LeaseNo Lease Record Reported to AutoCheck LienNo Lien Record Reported to AutoCheck Livery UseNo Livery Use Record Reported to AutoCheck Government UseNo Government Use Record Reported to AutoCheck Police UseNo Police Use Record Reported to AutoCheck FleetNo Fleet Record Reported to AutoCheck Fleet and/or RentalNo Fleet and/or Rental Record Reported to AutoCheck RentalNo Rental Record Reported to AutoCheck Fleet and/or LeaseNo Fleet and/or Lease Record Reported to AutoCheck RepossessedNo Repossessed Record Reported to AutoCheck Storm Area Registration/TitleNo Storm Area Registration/Title Indicated Taxi UseNo Taxi Use Record Reported to AutoCheck TheftNo Theft Record Reported to AutoCheck Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History
Re: [MBZ] OT, was Freaky Fuel Gauge
Bob Rentfro wrote: I've been driving/working out in the Acura (working on my upperbody strength...I shall look like Arnold by the time I get the steering rack fixed... When I was 20, I delivered pizza after school in a 1977 Saab 99 EMS (that was the rally replica, complete with quick ratio manual steering) After a few months the steering got to feeling normal. What was not normal was my discovery that I could climb a vertical drain pipe without using my legs, just walked up it with my hands. Took me seconds to get to the roof of the Domino's and retrieve the dough trays that some moron threw up there. Years later, working at the Saab shop, when my boss sent the rack from his 900 GLE in for a rebuild, he procured a manual rack so he could keep driving his car. The only manny rack in a US 900 was in the rare 900 EMS. Imagine the steering from my car in a heavier chassis. My boss was at least 60 years old at the time. He was not amused, but he drove it that way for two weeks. When his rack came back, he had me shove whatever I was working on out of my bay so I could upgrade his car to power steering immediately. Those two weeks are probably the only instance in which a Saab 900 wore EMS steering and a handicap license plate. (Old Vic had polio much worse than I did, in addition to being 35 years older than me) Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Freaky Fuel Gauge
Allan Streib wrote: I blew that fuse about every 6 months in my 300D. All instrumentation and directional signals would go out. I think the brake lights are on it too, which makes it really fairly dangerous to lose. My 300SD had a 25A there when I bought it. First time I triggered the kickdown switch I lost my brake lights and instruments when the 25A blew. Former owner thoughtfully provided me with a package of 25A fuses tucked into the fuse box. Check your kickdown solenoid and wire if you're blowing that fuse.
Re: [MBZ] Golly, I hope I'm not on crack
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Dont forget, your used parts purchases from Okiebenz are what funds this list. You should put a bunch of cheap parts on St Louis craigslist for cheep and I'll buy them from you on impulse like I did this last lot. As it is I call you when I need something, but when I don't actually need it... Seriously, though, would you pass up an NOS bundt cake, reman Bosch starter, antenna motor, and lots of switchgear and relays electrical doodads for $100? Tom
Re: [MBZ] A hilarious ad for a 240D Automatic
andrew strasfogel wrote: As a bonus, approximately half of the US Senate is out on the campaign trail at any given moment. 1/3 running for reelection and 1/6 running for president?
Re: [MBZ] new mascot
You didn't have the guts to post that to Banned, did you? On 2/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bought the wife an english bulldog for her birthday, we are naming it Diesel. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] new mascot
Bought the wife an english bulldog for her birthday, we are naming it Diesel. Now wait just a darned minute! My black cat Diesel had the name first g! He's the Diesel who purs like a kitten. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula and black cat Diesel
Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250
If that car was anywhere near me, I would have it parked in my driveway by now. It would go nicely with the '83. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 266K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250
Thanks Kaleb - too bad about the tranny, but I suspect it has a few too many miles to be a good transplant option anyway. With that being the case I probably won't buy it, unless it should turn out to have some other redeeming value, but other than one of you wanting to come pick it up I don't know what that would be. I'll take a look and a camera. Anyone interested? BillR Jacksonville FL - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250 The 85 tranny will not work in a 81 Report Run Date: 02/28/2007 Vehicle Description: WDBCB20C3FA094583 TitleCheck: No Record Reported to AutoCheck Problem Check: No Record Reported to AutoCheck Odometer Check: Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck Vehicle Information: Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck Full History: Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History VIN: WDBCB20C3FA094583 Year: 1985 Make: Mercedes-Benz Model: 300 Series 300SD Style/Body: 4 Door Sedan Engine: 3.0L I-5 Tbo Country of Assembly: Germany Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300SD (WDBCB20C3FA094583) show no significant Title events. When found, events often indicate past automotive damage or warnings associated with the vehicle title. Problems Checked Results Found AbandonedNo Abandoned Record Reported to AutoCheck DamagedNo Damaged Record Reported to AutoCheck Fire DamageNo Fire Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck Grey MarketNo Grey Market Record Reported to AutoCheck Hail DamageNo Hail Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck Insurance LossNo Insurance Loss Record Reported to AutoCheck JunkNo Junk Record Reported to AutoCheck Rebuilt/RebuildableNo Rebuilt/Rebuildable Record Reported to AutoCheck SalvageNo Salvage Record Reported to AutoCheck Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300SD (WDBCB20C3FA094583) shows no historical events that indicate a significant automotive problem. These problems can indicate previous car damage, theft, or other significant problem. Problems Checked Results Found NHTSA Crash Test VehicleNo NHTSA Crash Test Record Reported to AutoCheck Frame DamageNo Frame Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck Major Damage IncidentNo Major Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck Manufacturer Buyback/LemonNo Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Record Reported to AutoCheck Odometer ProblemNo Odometer Problem Record Reported to AutoCheck RecycledNo Recycled Record Reported to AutoCheck Salvage AuctionNo Salvage Auction Record Reported to AutoCheck Water DamageNo Water Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History Your Vehicle Checks Out! For this 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300SD (WDBCB20C3FA094583) no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. We calculate odometer rollbacks by using AutoCheck business rules to determine reported odometer readings are less than a previously reported value. Other odometer events can report events of tampering, or possible odometer breakage. AutoCheck's business rules have been created and refined to help identify potential rollbacks from the reported odometer readings. Not all odometer readings are used to determine rollbacks. Report Date: 02/28/2007 Date Reported Odometer Reading 06/24/1994 160,000 06/22/1995 190,000 06/20/1996 204,000 Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History Information Found! AutoCheck found additional information on this vehicle. These records will provide you with more past history for this 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300SD (WDBCB20C3FA094583). Problems Checked Results Found Accident DataNo Accidents Reported Through State Agencies Or Independent Sources Corrected TitleNo Corrected Title Record Reported to AutoCheck Driver EducationNo Driver Education Record Reported to AutoCheck Duplicate TitleNo Duplicate Title Record Reported to AutoCheck Emission/Safety InspectionEmission/Safety Inspection Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck Fire Damage IncidentNo Fire Damage Incident Record Reported to AutoCheck LeaseNo Lease Record Reported to AutoCheck LienNo Lien Record Reported to AutoCheck Livery UseNo Livery Use Record Reported to AutoCheck Government UseNo Government Use Record Reported to AutoCheck Police UseNo Police Use Record Reported to AutoCheck FleetNo Fleet Record
Re: [MBZ] A hilarious ad for a 240D Automatic
I might moved to Greene Acres, but at least I left my son working in Old Town Alexandria (beltway bandit engineer -- I mean, government contractor) to carry on the family tradition. Hey, _I_ live in Greenacres! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] A hilarious ad for a 240D Automatic
Arnold? Is that you, Arnold? On 2/28/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might moved to Greene Acres, but at least I left my son working in Old Town Alexandria (beltway bandit engineer -- I mean, government contractor) to carry on the family tradition. Hey, _I_ live in Greenacres! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] Golly, I hope I'm not on crack
Yeah, I looked around first and saw similar books for W113 and Adenauers going for $250+ and I figured this are Bus and Truck versions and couldn't find any others like it. Now in hindsight I expect they'll go back up lower with $79 BIN. Scarcity is only one half the high-price equation. Desirability is the other. There is a 60's Vauxhall at the U-Pull car-for-sale area. I bet it doesn't move any time soon. (It's really nasty. But rare. At least around here.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Freaky Fuel Gauge
Don - The gauge 0n my SD was so full of algae corpses that the float couldn't even go to empty. Makes it real easy to run out of fuel that way. It was also a challenge to clean the blasted thing as I had to take it all apart and yes I did break the wire. Luckily it was where it attaches at the bottom and I was able to solder it back together. Still working fine about 3 years later. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LT Don Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Freaky Fuel Gauge Yes, and very carefully. Don't break those fragile wires or you will be sending $$$ to Kaleb for a replacement.
Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250
Bill - there are a lot of improvements between '81 and '85 on the 126 SD, so that you would get some neat stuff if you kept the '85 and used the '81 for parts. The obvious key is rust - it doesn't take much for a car to become a real money sink. Just a few items that changed - '83 to '84, the tach did away with the troublesome plug in amp on the fender well, and has its own pickup from the flywheel. Also in '84, you got the outside air temp readout, as well as 2 position memory seats. And if the '85 has MBTex instead of leather, you will find the seats to be about as wear proof (and maintenance free) as can be. Probably some injection system, transmission control, and alarm system upgrades, too. Werner '83SD '90D - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Allen Ringgold' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Allen D. Ringgold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] 300SD for $250 Just got a call from the guy selling the car. Turns out it is a 1985 300SD, 159k miles. He says the interior is pretty good, but needs cleaning and the windows don't work exactly right. It is green with a green interior. My main interest in the car is the transmission, which he says is good. If I can pull that and put it in my 1981 300SD that would be quite helpful as mine is starting to have more issues than I am happy with. Anyone have knowledge about that? VIN is WDBCB20C3FA094583 I'd appreciate knowing what that shows if someone will run it for me.. Thanks - - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 285k miles
Re: [MBZ] Golly, I hope I'm not on crack
Vince, your listings are rather decent, I must say (to quote Martin Short's Ed Grimsley character). One cavil, however. The rear doors on the 300TD wagon are larger than the 300D sedans, so it is UNlikely the rear door panel you're selling will fit both types of W123 diesel. If I am correct in this(there's always a first time) your should probably revise your listing. 1983 300td 1985 300cd Come to think of it, it could be my misperception, I've never actually tried to cross them, thanks for bringing it to my attention, I'll investigate. I do know the rear doors and quarter glass are shaped differently... I have to update my disclaimer already too. I've also got a guy in Taiwan who missed Ships to United States 3 times and Shipping to United States Only twice! What fun! I want to allow non-us ebay bidders because so far two of them have US addresses I can send it to. Hope there's a feature for that... Vince _ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035url=%2fst.jsptm=ysearch=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6disc=yvers=743s=4056p=5117
Re: [MBZ] Golly, I hope I'm not on crack
I care! :) Wish I'd have known you were selling parts a little earlier; I just bought a cache of 123 parts on craigslist, the only problem being that they're all the way down in Cape Goober... Vince, do you by chance have or know where I might find a set of French-spec jaune selectif fog light reflectors for Bosch 123 headlights? Tom Thanks Tom. What do you mean, not the apparent long-out-of-production holy grail of euro lenses do you? The closest I've ever come is a car that was originally equipped with them and lost in the Federale-ization. Did the parts come offered with a mis-restored coupe? I think I had a crack at those but wasn't in position to make the move. Going to Kemp next month? _ Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for FREE. http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline
[MBZ] Support Okie Benz (Was: Golly, I hope .......)
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Dont forget, your used parts purchases from Okiebenz are what funds this list. I wouldn't hesitate to aquire something I need from ya! Let me know if you offer something really tasty like euro lenses for front or rear of something. Still wish I could have seen your 250LWB. Cheers Vince _ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035url=%2fst.jsptm=ysearch=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6disc=yvers=743s=4056p=5117
Re: [MBZ] new mascot
what would be the point? LT Don wrote: You didn't have the guts to post that to Banned, did you? On 2/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bought the wife an english bulldog for her birthday, we are naming it Diesel. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new mascot
no kidding!! kevin kraly wrote: Bought the wife an english bulldog for her birthday, we are naming it Diesel. Now wait just a darned minute! My black cat Diesel had the name first g! He's the Diesel who purs like a kitten. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula and black cat Diesel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A hilarious ad for a 240D Automatic
Thanks Kevin, that's great. Where's it from, your own creative literary work? Can a keep a copy amonsgt my W123 archives? Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org _ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035url=%2fst.jsptm=ysearch=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6disc=yvers=743s=4056p=5117
Re: [MBZ] Support Okie Benz (Was: Golly, I hope .......)
V Layton wrote: I wouldn't hesitate to aquire something I need from ya! Let me know if you offer something really tasty like euro lenses for front or rear of something. Still wish I could have seen your 250LWB. Kinda supports Okie-Benz (not directly), but I have bought glass for my euro headlights (w116) through Rusty. $75 per side. Stupid rocks...
Re: [MBZ] A hilarious ad for a 240D Automatic
Nope, nothing I wrote, just found it on another Mercedes Diesel list I'm on. It was a craigslist ad spotted by another lister who, like me, thought it was quite funny. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] new mascot
no kidding!! It's the Truth! The name Shadow came to mind, but at the last minute, Diesel won out. Who knows, my next Guide Dog's name may be Mercedes although I have no control over that! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics
YeahKinda like saying Bob instead of RobertCreepy. Mike - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics things like LOL and ROTFLMAO kinda creep me out - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics ROTFLMAO!!! Mike - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics yeah, but those banned list guys use a lot of bad words and are racist, misogynist, homophobic, anti-semitic and all the rest . yeah, just like any other really fancy club in america :) On 2/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As has been mentioned before, this list is no place for discussion of politics. OT content is just fine and keeps the list interesting, but has lately been diluted with politics. I do not want to see anymore political discussions at all. That is what the banned list is for. If you want to talk about it, banned is the place to go. If you have a problem understanding this, please contact me offlist with your questions. I have been receiving numerous complaints about the excessive OT political conversations so it ends now. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics
OK, I get the 'laughing out loud', but what is ROTFLMAO? BillR - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics YeahKinda like saying Bob instead of RobertCreepy. Mike - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics things like LOL and ROTFLMAO kinda creep me out
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics
Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off Mike - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics OK, I get the 'laughing out loud', but what is ROTFLMAO? BillR - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics YeahKinda like saying Bob instead of RobertCreepy. Mike - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics things like LOL and ROTFLMAO kinda creep me out ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics
Like most such things, it makes perfect sense now Thanks - BillR - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off Mike - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics OK, I get the 'laughing out loud', but what is ROTFLMAO? BillR - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics YeahKinda like saying Bob instead of RobertCreepy. Mike - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Political topics things like LOL and ROTFLMAO kinda creep me out ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Freaky Fuel Gauge
That reminds me of my friend's '80 300SD that would blow that fuse everytime the kickdown switch activated. His car had sat for a long time. Once he started driving it (on a 5000 mile trip to Mexico no less) the problem went away... Wierd. -Curt Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:30:16 -0500 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Freaky Fuel Gauge To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Allan Streib wrote: I blew that fuse about every 6 months in my 300D. All instrumentation and directional signals would go out. I think the brake lights are on it too, which makes it really fairly dangerous to lose. My 300SD had a 25A there when I bought it. First time I triggered the kickdown switch I lost my brake lights and instruments when the 25A blew. Former owner thoughtfully provided me with a package of 25A fuses tucked into the fuse box. Check your kickdown solenoid and wire if you're blowing that fuse. - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 01 14:19:33 2007 Received: from web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.34]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HMm85-0001gk-11 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:19:33 + Received: (qmail 90979 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2007 14:19:27 - X-YMail-OSG: kFbulhsVM1m8iUL44BeM3r1.o4HiOvmxBKZtL1SaJ8P2BV5.09oEU3Zb23srQ4vMpZ7Eczc9bzr5mQRGWSmI_BdrkmSK7yd8Iyup4mlaKNFU3QxxtoNTTfx0_OLfLnNmXeZoBpHRQkPit_A- Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 06:19:27 PST Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 06:19:27 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:19:34 - I'm curious what the mileage is, he said 150something but carfax says it had 204k 10 years ago... -Curt Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:18:37 -0500 From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Thanks Kaleb - too bad about the tranny, but I suspect it has a few too many miles to be a good transplant option anyway. With that being the case I probably won't buy it, unless it should turn out to have some other redeeming value, but other than one of you wanting to come pick it up I don't know what that would be. I'll take a look and a camera. Anyone interested? BillR Jacksonville FL - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 01 14:25:00 2007 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.173]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HMmDL-0001yB-Gi for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:24:59 + Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so364191uge for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 06:24:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.167.2 with SMTP id p2mr26599wae.1172759059184; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 06:24:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.56.14 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 06:24:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:24:19 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion
Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250
Its completely different to the 81-83 version. Pickup is different, wiring is different, guage is different. andrew strasfogel wrote: Speaking of tachometers, does anyone know whether an 85 300CD would have a different tach setup from an earlier (1981 - 1984) W123 turbodiesel? If so, would the combination gauges be different for an 85 vs. one of the earlier years? 1985 300CD 1983 300TD On 2/28/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill - there are a lot of improvements between '81 and '85 on the 126 SD, so that you would get some neat stuff if you kept the '85 and used the '81 for parts. The obvious key is rust - it doesn't take much for a car to become a real money sink. Just a few items that changed - '83 to '84, the tach did away with the troublesome plug in amp on the fender well, and has its own pickup from the flywheel. Also in '84, you got the outside air temp readout, as well as 2 position memory seats. And if the '85 has MBTex instead of leather, you will find the seats to be about as wear proof (and maintenance free) as can be. Probably some injection system, transmission control, and alarm system upgrades, too. Werner '83SD '90D - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Allen Ringgold' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Allen D. Ringgold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] 300SD for $250 Just got a call from the guy selling the car. Turns out it is a 1985 300SD, 159k miles. He says the interior is pretty good, but needs cleaning and the windows don't work exactly right. It is green with a green interior. My main interest in the car is the transmission, which he says is good. If I can pull that and put it in my 1981 300SD that would be quite helpful as mine is starting to have more issues than I am happy with. Anyone have knowledge about that? VIN is WDBCB20C3FA094583 I'd appreciate knowing what that shows if someone will run it for me.. Thanks - - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 285k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new mascot
How do we know our Okiebenz purchases don't subsidize Diesel the Bulldog's antidrooling meds instead of the list? What if Kaleb's canine and parts accounts are commingled? On 3/1/07, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no kidding!! It's the Truth! The name Shadow came to mind, but at the last minute, Diesel won out. Who knows, my next Guide Dog's name may be Mercedes although I have no control over that! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Freaky Fuel Gauge
Weird or wired? On 3/1/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That reminds me of my friend's '80 300SD that would blow that fuse everytime the kickdown switch activated. His car had sat for a long time. Once he started driving it (on a 5000 mile trip to Mexico no less) the problem went away... Wierd. -Curt Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:30:16 -0500 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Freaky Fuel Gauge To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Allan Streib wrote: I blew that fuse about every 6 months in my 300D. All instrumentation and directional signals would go out. I think the brake lights are on it too, which makes it really fairly dangerous to lose. My 300SD had a 25A there when I bought it. First time I triggered the kickdown switch I lost my brake lights and instruments when the 25A blew. Former owner thoughtfully provided me with a package of 25A fuses tucked into the fuse box. Check your kickdown solenoid and wire if you're blowing that fuse. - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250
Thanks for preventing me from making a(nother) huge mistake. On 3/1/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its completely different to the 81-83 version. Pickup is different, wiring is different, guage is different. andrew strasfogel wrote: Speaking of tachometers, does anyone know whether an 85 300CD would have a different tach setup from an earlier (1981 - 1984) W123 turbodiesel? If so, would the combination gauges be different for an 85 vs. one of the earlier years? 1985 300CD 1983 300TD On 2/28/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill - there are a lot of improvements between '81 and '85 on the 126 SD, so that you would get some neat stuff if you kept the '85 and used the '81 for parts. The obvious key is rust - it doesn't take much for a car to become a real money sink. Just a few items that changed - '83 to '84, the tach did away with the troublesome plug in amp on the fender well, and has its own pickup from the flywheel. Also in '84, you got the outside air temp readout, as well as 2 position memory seats. And if the '85 has MBTex instead of leather, you will find the seats to be about as wear proof (and maintenance free) as can be. Probably some injection system, transmission control, and alarm system upgrades, too. Werner '83SD '90D - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Allen Ringgold' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Allen D. Ringgold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] 300SD for $250 Just got a call from the guy selling the car. Turns out it is a 1985 300SD, 159k miles. He says the interior is pretty good, but needs cleaning and the windows don't work exactly right. It is green with a green interior. My main interest in the car is the transmission, which he says is good. If I can pull that and put it in my 1981 300SD that would be quite helpful as mine is starting to have more issues than I am happy with. Anyone have knowledge about that? VIN is WDBCB20C3FA094583 I'd appreciate knowing what that shows if someone will run it for me.. Thanks - - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 285k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Freaky Fuel Gauge
Yes! On 3/1/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Weird or wired? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250
Also 1985 was the first year for ABS James Zavesky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Werner Fehlauer Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250 Bill - there are a lot of improvements between '81 and '85 on the 126 SD, so that you would get some neat stuff if you kept the '85 and used the '81 for parts. The obvious key is rust - it doesn't take much for a car to become a real money sink. Just a few items that changed - '83 to '84, the tach did away with the troublesome plug in amp on the fender well, and has its own pickup from the flywheel. Also in '84, you got the outside air temp readout, as well as 2 position memory seats. And if the '85 has MBTex instead of leather, you will find the seats to be about as wear proof (and maintenance free) as can be. Probably some injection system, transmission control, and alarm system upgrades, too. Werner '83SD '90D - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Allen Ringgold' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Allen D. Ringgold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] 300SD for $250 Just got a call from the guy selling the car. Turns out it is a 1985 300SD, 159k miles. He says the interior is pretty good, but needs cleaning and the windows don't work exactly right. It is green with a green interior. My main interest in the car is the transmission, which he says is good. If I can pull that and put it in my 1981 300SD that would be quite helpful as mine is starting to have more issues than I am happy with. Anyone have knowledge about that? VIN is WDBCB20C3FA094583 I'd appreciate knowing what that shows if someone will run it for me.. Thanks - - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 285k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250
My '85 also has three wires on the top of the valve cover as part of the kickdown switch...seems that older ones have a really wild vacuum system going on there. I think the blue flying saucer was new in '85 too, no? Chris James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also 1985 was the first year for ABS James Zavesky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Werner Fehlauer Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250 Bill - there are a lot of improvements between '81 and '85 on the 126 SD, so that you would get some neat stuff if you kept the '85 and used the '81 for parts. The obvious key is rust - it doesn't take much for a car to become a real money sink. Just a few items that changed - '83 to '84, the tach did away with the troublesome plug in amp on the fender well, and has its own pickup from the flywheel. Also in '84, you got the outside air temp readout, as well as 2 position memory seats. And if the '85 has MBTex instead of leather, you will find the seats to be about as wear proof (and maintenance free) as can be. Probably some injection system, transmission control, and alarm system upgrades, too. Werner '83SD '90D - Original Message - From: BillR To: 'Allen Ringgold' ; Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Allen D. Ringgold Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] 300SD for $250 Just got a call from the guy selling the car. Turns out it is a 1985 300SD, 159k miles. He says the interior is pretty good, but needs cleaning and the windows don't work exactly right. It is green with a green interior. My main interest in the car is the transmission, which he says is good. If I can pull that and put it in my 1981 300SD that would be quite helpful as mine is starting to have more issues than I am happy with. Anyone have knowledge about that? VIN is WDBCB20C3FA094583 I'd appreciate knowing what that shows if someone will run it for me.. Thanks - - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 285k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 01 16:38:24 2007 Received: from bay0-omc2-s7.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.143]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HMoIS-0001d4-IA for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:38:24 + Received: from hotmail.com ([65.55.130.94]) by bay0-omc2-s7.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:38:18 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:38:18 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 65.55.130.123 by by125fd.bay125.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:38:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [70.251.46.245] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Bcc: Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:38:16 + Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2007 16:38:18.0318 (UTC) FILETIME=[043D3EE0:01C75C20] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] A hilarious ad for a 240D Automatic X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:38:25 - Nope, nothing I wrote, just found it on another Mercedes Diesel list I'm on. It was a craigslist ad spotted by another lister who, like me, thought it was quite funny. Wow, I can't believe someone posted that. Thanks again for sharing it. There is a pretty funny
Re: [MBZ] Rust starting -- how to handle it
Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By 'front quarter panel', I assume you're referring to the front fender, Allan. Yes, sorry I don't really know my auto-body terminology. If your car does have those fender liners you'd do well to remove them for a looksee. Will check it out. What about the rust already starting? Can I treat it with anything? I know there are a few products that claim to convert the rust to prevent future corrosion, but don't know if they are snake oil or really work. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Rust starting -- how to handle it
Sadly, when rust can be seen there is almost certainly more that is unseen. The area you describe is a typical place for W123 rust to start - moisture gets into the rockers and starts eating them from the inside out. My 78 has rust in the same place. There are some products which will slow it down. You can open up the rocker by drilling a hole and gain access or remove the plugs that are located in the rockers, There are products which come with a long spray tube that can be fed into the hole and the product sprayed around as much as possible. One product I'm familiar with has a waxy feel which flows before becoming firm. But it is mostly to prevent more rust rather than stopping what you have. The best, most permanent way to fix it is to replace the damaged metal by cutting away the rust and welding a new piece of metal in its place. This can get expensive unless you have bodyworking skills. Also, it is typical to find more rust as the visible stuff is cut away. It's also importtant to stop the water from getting it - sometimes the front or rear windshield gaskets wil leak and the water eventually gets to the floors and starts attacking the inner rocker panels - actually this is probably the most likely source. It can also eat a hole thru the floors (BTDT). To convert what you have will require something like POR15 (PaintOverRust) or some of the many products offered by the Eastwood Co. I have been happy with some spray called (oddly) Rust Converter which is available at FLAPS and Walmart. But access is the biggest problem - you must be able to get the stuff onto the rust for it to work. As a starter I suggest you get the Eastwood catalog and check out the rust combatting products. Their website will also help. Based on personal experience, once the rust starts it becomes a frustrating constant battle to stop it or even slow it down. Good luck. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] Rust starting -- how to handle it Noticed today that for the first time there are signs of rust setting in on my 300D. At the bottom of the front quarter panel, just behind the wheel, there are a few blisters starting in the paint and some rusty color bleeding through. I know it's probably inevitable in a daily driver when salt is used on the roads. What's the best way to deal with this, stop it or at least slow it as much as possible? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250
blue flying saucer for ac control was new in 85, the switch on top of valve cover is for compressor kickoff on full acceleration and controls egr. Christopher McCann wrote: My '85 also has three wires on the top of the valve cover as part of the kickdown switch...seems that older ones have a really wild vacuum system going on there. I think the blue flying saucer was new in '85 too, no? Chris James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also 1985 was the first year for ABS James Zavesky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Werner Fehlauer Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD for $250 Bill - there are a lot of improvements between '81 and '85 on the 126 SD, so that you would get some neat stuff if you kept the '85 and used the '81 for parts. The obvious key is rust - it doesn't take much for a car to become a real money sink. Just a few items that changed - '83 to '84, the tach did away with the troublesome plug in amp on the fender well, and has its own pickup from the flywheel. Also in '84, you got the outside air temp readout, as well as 2 position memory seats. And if the '85 has MBTex instead of leather, you will find the seats to be about as wear proof (and maintenance free) as can be. Probably some injection system, transmission control, and alarm system upgrades, too. Werner '83SD '90D - Original Message - From: BillR To: 'Allen Ringgold' ; Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Allen D. Ringgold Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] 300SD for $250 Just got a call from the guy selling the car. Turns out it is a 1985 300SD, 159k miles. He says the interior is pretty good, but needs cleaning and the windows don't work exactly right. It is green with a green interior. My main interest in the car is the transmission, which he says is good. If I can pull that and put it in my 1981 300SD that would be quite helpful as mine is starting to have more issues than I am happy with. Anyone have knowledge about that? VIN is WDBCB20C3FA094583 I'd appreciate knowing what that shows if someone will run it for me.. Thanks - - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 285k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rust starting -- how to handle it
POR-15 is highly recommended by folks I know. Eastwood handles it. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:22 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust starting -- how to handle it Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By 'front quarter panel', I assume you're referring to the front fender, Allan. Yes, sorry I don't really know my auto-body terminology. If your car does have those fender liners you'd do well to remove them for a looksee. Will check it out. What about the rust already starting? Can I treat it with anything? I know there are a few products that claim to convert the rust to prevent future corrosion, but don't know if they are snake oil or really work. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Re: Rust protection
a post from August on the same topic. Chris Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:56:13 -0500 From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust protection rumor has it that Dan wrote: Great! I'll switch! Where do you find the stuff? Dan I heartily recommend LPS2/3 for fighting the formation of rust. WD-40 only works if you spray it hourly! Marshall If you know a general aviation mechanic, he can likely get it for you. I get mine from MCM Electronics. Great place for lots of electronic goodies. And the have LPS http://www.mcmelectronics.com -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz) (happy customer of austerlitzshepherds.com) -1985 300SD, 220K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K miles, little blue klatter box - Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 01 18:27:29 2007 Received: from odin.envisagenow.com ([12.2.42.104]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HMq01-0008Qn-AV for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:27:29 + Received: from STREIB ([12.2.42.59]) by odin.envisagenow.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:29:26 -0500 Received: by STREIB (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:27:22 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:27:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LarryT's message of Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:29:42 -0500) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.19 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2007 18:29:26.0500 (UTC) FILETIME=[8AC91240:01C75C2F] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust starting -- how to handle it X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:27:29 - LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To convert what you have will require something like POR15 (PaintOverRust) or some of the many products offered by the Eastwood Co. Ah yes, POR15. Now that you mention it I recall the rave reviews it used to get on the old Veterans list. Thanks, I think that will be the first item in my arsenal. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] new mascot
I have one of those. He is wonderful with my great-granddaughter. She is a toddler, and pulls and beats on him without him even raising an eyebrow. I named him George after my hero, George Patton. Thankfully, he is not quite as pugnacious as his namesake. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:47 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] new mascot Bought the wife an english bulldog for her birthday, we are naming it Diesel. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new mascot
Until one day when enough is enough...then it's the dogs fault! On 3/1/07, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one of those. He is wonderful with my great-granddaughter. She is a toddler, and pulls and beats on him without him even raising an eyebrow. I named him George after my hero, George Patton. Thankfully, he is not quite as pugnacious as his namesake. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:47 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] new mascot Bought the wife an english bulldog for her birthday, we are naming it Diesel. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new mascot
My son has one named Hooch. 8 months old, 125 pounds. - Original Message - From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new mascot I have one of those. He is wonderful with my great-granddaughter. She is a toddler, and pulls and beats on him without him even raising an eyebrow. I named him George after my hero, George Patton. Thankfully, he is not quite as pugnacious as his namesake. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:47 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] new mascot Bought the wife an english bulldog for her birthday, we are naming it Diesel. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rust starting -- how to handle it
Night school course at the local highschool on how to use a MIG welder. The only way to deal with rust is to cut it out and replace metal. Anything else is just to make it look good for long enough to sell the problem to someone else. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 10:44 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Rust starting -- how to handle it Noticed today that for the first time there are signs of rust setting in on my 300D. At the bottom of the front quarter panel, just behind the wheel, there are a few blisters starting in the paint and some rusty color bleeding through. I know it's probably inevitable in a daily driver when salt is used on the roads. What's the best way to deal with this, stop it or at least slow it as much as possible? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] $250 1985 300SD
Based on what the guy said about it not going over 65 MPH I bought fuel filters and headed out. When I saw the car I was a bit reluctant to stop, but figured it was worth a look. The odo says 217k miles. Carfax says 204k in '96, so I guess the 217k is possible if it spent a lot of time just sitting for the past decade. When I looked at the filters they looked new, so I didn't change them. Lady said the battery always dies overnight, so she had on the porch in a charger. It started easily and showed very little smoke, though she said it did smoke when started, but quit fairly soon. Just as on my 300SD the oil pressure pegged when the key was turned.. New theory on why it won't reach interstate speeds and runs poorly when started and the rest of the time also: I think it is only running on 4 cylinders at best, even though there was little smoke at start up. WAG is at least one bad glow plug. Ran rough the whole time. The Good: Tires are indeed new and look good. Seats - Green MBtex, and in pretty good shape. I saw no tears, though the driver's seat does seem to be pulling away from the pad a bit. I think the engine is good, though I am not a mechanic, and it didn't have much power. Only ran it for 5 minutes, but it never did settle down. The only odd noise, other than hearing what I think was only 4 cylinders rather than 5, was an occasional squeak from a pulley on the RF somewhere. I was not brave enough to try the AC, especially with the cooling line missing. OEM Becker radio, which she says works great, but would not turn on when I tried it. Some electrical short/problem would not be a surprise, but the radio looked good, if in serious need of cleaning. I sure wouldn't kick it out of my car. Very little rust on the car. A touch around the antenna, a hole [doesn't look like from rust, though] LF fender. Some rust spots and a small hole in the bumper. Light surface rust on one jack port, the others seemed ok. Somewhat funky looking spoiler looked to have been attached by a carpenter [no aspersions on carpenters, but that skill does not always translate properly to body work.] Trunk looked clean and dry after a hard rain. Much of the wood looks ok, though the piece around the shifter is pretty cracked up. Glass looks good. Outside temp sensor and display seemed in working order All body panels look ok. The Bad: ABS light stayed on full time. I didn't think the transmission was much better than mine. It is about where mine was a year ago. I wouldn't be willing to transplant even if my crank could be bored out so the pin would fit. It would not be enough to stop me from buying the vehicle if I could do the work, but at @$80/hour lots of stuff get's expensive pretty quick. I wouldn't be seriously concerned about it for another 50k miles or so [another WAG]. AND, the position points were wrong. D was neutral, N was reverse, etc. Dash seems pretty cracked under the almost faded to blue dash pad. Door switches are missing on both sides. He said the power windows didn't work too well. Sunroof is dropped 1/2 , LR corner. Unidentified @ 2 x 7 plastic flap lying on the floor. Front looks to have been tagged a bit. Hood ornament is missing, hood will not close down all the way, a cooler line is sticking out with a drywall screw in the end, grill seems out of place, more angled out than it should be, and some pieces are missing between the bumper and the grill and light assemblies. RF light assembly is messed up a bit, and the side light/blinker is gone altogether. Radiator seems to be held together on the right top by JB weld. Washer reservoir is missing Over a bumpy driveway there seems to be some odd 'clunks'. The Ugly: A paint job that just screams We paint your entire car in one hour or less for $25. Large slabs of peeling paint on the sunroof, paint overspray peeling off many other parts of the car. Mine is a 10' car, this one looks to be a 75' car, without glasses. No floor mats or carpet in the front. Didn't investigate the back.. Door panel tops that have seen too much sun. So... is it worth $250 ? If you need tires, a probably useful engine and a questionable but reasonably good transmission, solid but dirty seats, a Becker radio [maybe working], some glass, or other parts I would have no idea about, maybe. It is drivable, and they guy drove it home from Green Cove Springs [all of 10 - 15 miles]. While I wouldn't be concerned about driving my 1981 300SD to Indiana, I would only take this one after some serious diagnostic and repair work, and with a really good contingency plan. I didn't stop by the bank. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 285K miles
Re: [MBZ] $250 1985 300SD
Yeah but for $250 it is a really really good deal, a good cheap Benz! I know all the advice in that regard, but if you have a place to put it, a tolerant domestic manager, and some time and interest in hacking on it to get it running half decent, it would a fun bit of hobby and then you could sell it for a bio-dmobile. A good kid's car even, if it gets banged up then who cares... Besides that, I know you really want to. --R BillR wrote: Based on what the guy said about it not going over 65 MPH I bought fuel filters and headed out. When I saw the car I was a bit reluctant to stop, but figured it was worth a look. The odo says 217k miles. Carfax says 204k in '96, so I guess the 217k is possible if it spent a lot of time just sitting for the past decade. When I looked at the filters they looked new, so I didn't change them. Lady said the battery always dies overnight, so she had on the porch in a charger. It started easily and showed very little smoke, though she said it did smoke when started, but quit fairly soon. Just as on my 300SD the oil pressure pegged when the key was turned.. New theory on why it won't reach interstate speeds and runs poorly when started and the rest of the time also: I think it is only running on 4 cylinders at best, even though there was little smoke at start up. WAG is at least one bad glow plug. Ran rough the whole time. The Good: Tires are indeed new and look good. Seats - Green MBtex, and in pretty good shape. I saw no tears, though the driver's seat does seem to be pulling away from the pad a bit. I think the engine is good, though I am not a mechanic, and it didn't have much power. Only ran it for 5 minutes, but it never did settle down. The only odd noise, other than hearing what I think was only 4 cylinders rather than 5, was an occasional squeak from a pulley on the RF somewhere. I was not brave enough to try the AC, especially with the cooling line missing. OEM Becker radio, which she says works great, but would not turn on when I tried it. Some electrical short/problem would not be a surprise, but the radio looked good, if in serious need of cleaning. I sure wouldn't kick it out of my car. Very little rust on the car. A touch around the antenna, a hole [doesn't look like from rust, though] LF fender. Some rust spots and a small hole in the bumper. Light surface rust on one jack port, the others seemed ok. Somewhat funky looking spoiler looked to have been attached by a carpenter [no aspersions on carpenters, but that skill does not always translate properly to body work.] Trunk looked clean and dry after a hard rain. Much of the wood looks ok, though the piece around the shifter is pretty cracked up. Glass looks good. Outside temp sensor and display seemed in working order All body panels look ok. The Bad: ABS light stayed on full time. I didn't think the transmission was much better than mine. It is about where mine was a year ago. I wouldn't be willing to transplant even if my crank could be bored out so the pin would fit. It would not be enough to stop me from buying the vehicle if I could do the work, but at @$80/hour lots of stuff get's expensive pretty quick. I wouldn't be seriously concerned about it for another 50k miles or so [another WAG]. AND, the position points were wrong. D was neutral, N was reverse, etc. Dash seems pretty cracked under the almost faded to blue dash pad. Door switches are missing on both sides. He said the power windows didn't work too well. Sunroof is dropped 1/2 , LR corner. Unidentified @ 2 x 7 plastic flap lying on the floor. Front looks to have been tagged a bit. Hood ornament is missing, hood will not close down all the way, a cooler line is sticking out with a drywall screw in the end, grill seems out of place, more angled out than it should be, and some pieces are missing between the bumper and the grill and light assemblies. RF light assembly is messed up a bit, and the side light/blinker is gone altogether. Radiator seems to be held together on the right top by JB weld. Washer reservoir is missing Over a bumpy driveway there seems to be some odd 'clunks'. The Ugly: A paint job that just screams We paint your entire car in one hour or less for $25. Large slabs of peeling paint on the sunroof, paint overspray peeling off many other parts of the car. Mine is a 10' car, this one looks to be a 75' car, without glasses. No floor mats or carpet in the front. Didn't investigate the back.. Door panel tops that have seen too much sun. So... is it worth $250 ? If you need tires, a probably useful engine and a questionable but reasonably good transmission, solid but dirty seats, a Becker radio [maybe working], some glass, or other parts I would have no idea about, maybe. It is drivable, and they guy drove it home from Green Cove Springs [all of 10 - 15 miles]. While I wouldn't be concerned about driving my 1981 300SD to Indiana, I would only take this one
[MBZ] Dallas auction 97 S320
Kaleb you need to step up to a new car! Did you ever check on the auction details? --R http://www.texascarsforkids.org/details.asp?CarId=19956vType=1
[MBZ] Diesel engines available
I have two engines from my '81 300SD in Columbia, SC. Neither are running, neither have all the extras. One has a bad main bearing/crank, but a good top end and head, CA car. The other probably has a decent bottom end but bad compression, and I know nothing else about that one, but was sold as being a known engine that was good. They lied about that. Both are available for the picking up. Son has an engine lift so could assist with loading [if he is home] or you could use the lift and DYI. Let me know. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 285K miles From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 01 23:00:43 2007 Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.48]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HMuGQ-0001PZ-W5 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:00:43 + Received: from WFlaptop ([141.150.206.67]) by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:00:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:54:57 -0500 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] $250 1985 300SD X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:00:43 - Bill - one reason to have the floor mats out is that they may have been very wet (under water) and started to mildew. Any idea of what the original outside color might have been? the VIN plate in front of the radiator should give the codes. As for the engine, a bad glow plug would not cause it to run on 4 cylinders after just a minute or so after starting. More likely a plugged injector? Might be important to have someone check the timing chain stretch, and a valve adjustment is probably badly needed. At least a compression check will show if there is hope to get it running better. But in any case, the car seems to be worth much more than $250 if you just part it out. Or better yet, use the bits and pieces from your '81 (after you get the outside cosmetics taken care of) and you will have a better '85! Shame it isn't white - I might have to stop by on my way to Southern Treffen in Lakeland in a couple of weeks. Werner '83SD '90D - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 5:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] $250 1985 300SD Based on what the guy said about it not going over 65 MPH I bought fuel filters and headed out. When I saw the car I was a bit reluctant to stop, but figured it was worth a look. The odo says 217k miles. Carfax says 204k in '96, so I guess the 217k is possible if it spent a lot of time just sitting for the past decade. When I looked at the filters they looked new, so I didn't change them. Lady said the battery always dies overnight, so she had on the porch in a charger. It started easily and showed very little smoke, though she said it did smoke when started, but quit fairly soon. Just as on my 300SD the oil pressure pegged when the key was turned.. New theory on why it won't reach interstate speeds and runs poorly when started and the rest of the time also: I think it is only running on 4 cylinders at best, even though there was little smoke at start up. WAG is at least one bad glow plug. Ran rough the whole time. The Good: Tires are indeed new and look good. Seats - Green MBtex, and in pretty good shape. I saw no tears, though the driver's seat does seem to be pulling away from the pad a bit. I think the engine is good, though I am not a mechanic, and it didn't have much power. Only ran it for 5 minutes, but it never did settle down. The only odd noise, other than hearing what I think was only 4 cylinders rather than 5, was an occasional squeak from a pulley on the RF somewhere. I was not brave enough to try the AC, especially with the cooling line missing. OEM Becker radio,
Re: [MBZ] $250 1985 300SD
Can't argue that it could be fun, but: In this area cars that looked like that one would not be appreciated, and one visit from the code enforcement folks was enough; Property manager [SWMBO] would not be tolerant of either the car [maybe Ok if I kept my car cover on it] or of the possibility that I would do something that would get me either over-heated or over-tired. Both of which are no-no's for me according to her and my cardiologist. My 105 # lab 'puppy' would eat it if I found a place to put it in the back;. What bit of car time I have is well used on my baby - my '81 300SD. I have an interest in cars and love my baby, but am not knowledgable enough to do it myself, nor do I have the tools or place to work on it, if I did have the strength. Think I'll pass on this one, but would be happy to park it for a time for one of you if you want. . BillR Jacksonville FL - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] $250 1985 300SD Yeah but for $250 it is a really really good deal, a good cheap Benz! I know all the advice in that regard, but if you have a place to put it, a tolerant domestic manager, and some time and interest in hacking on it to get it running half decent, it would a fun bit of hobby and then you could sell it for a bio-dmobile. A good kid's car even, if it gets banged up then who cares... Besides that, I know you really want to. --R BillR wrote: Based on what the guy said about it not going over 65 MPH I bought fuel filters and headed out. When I saw the car I was a bit reluctant to stop, but figured it was worth a look. The odo says 217k miles. Carfax says 204k in '96, so I guess the 217k is possible if it spent a lot of time just sitting for the past decade. When I looked at the filters they looked new, so I didn't change them. Lady said the battery always dies overnight, so she had on the porch in a charger. It started easily and showed very little smoke, though she said it did smoke when started, but quit fairly soon. Just as on my 300SD the oil pressure pegged when the key was turned.. New theory on why it won't reach interstate speeds and runs poorly when started and the rest of the time also: I think it is only running on 4 cylinders at best, even though there was little smoke at start up. WAG is at least one bad glow plug. Ran rough the whole time. The Good: Tires are indeed new and look good. Seats - Green MBtex, and in pretty good shape. I saw no tears, though the driver's seat does seem to be pulling away from the pad a bit. I think the engine is good, though I am not a mechanic, and it didn't have much power. Only ran it for 5 minutes, but it never did settle down. The only odd noise, other than hearing what I think was only 4 cylinders rather than 5, was an occasional squeak from a pulley on the RF somewhere. I was not brave enough to try the AC, especially with the cooling line missing. OEM Becker radio, which she says works great, but would not turn on when I tried it. Some electrical short/problem would not be a surprise, but the radio looked good, if in serious need of cleaning. I sure wouldn't kick it out of my car. Very little rust on the car. A touch around the antenna, a hole [doesn't look like from rust, though] LF fender. Some rust spots and a small hole in the bumper. Light surface rust on one jack port, the others seemed ok. Somewhat funky looking spoiler looked to have been attached by a carpenter [no aspersions on carpenters, but that skill does not always translate properly to body work.] Trunk looked clean and dry after a hard rain. Much of the wood looks ok, though the piece around the shifter is pretty cracked up. Glass looks good. Outside temp sensor and display seemed in working order All body panels look ok. The Bad: ABS light stayed on full time. I didn't think the transmission was much better than mine. It is about where mine was a year ago. I wouldn't be willing to transplant even if my crank could be bored out so the pin would fit. It would not be enough to stop me from buying the vehicle if I could do the work, but at @$80/hour lots of stuff get's expensive pretty quick. I wouldn't be seriously concerned about it for another 50k miles or so [another WAG]. AND, the position points were wrong. D was neutral, N was reverse, etc. Dash seems pretty cracked under the almost faded to blue dash pad. Door switches are missing on both sides. He said the power windows didn't work too well. Sunroof is dropped 1/2 , LR corner. Unidentified @ 2 x 7 plastic flap lying on the floor. Front looks to have been tagged a bit. Hood ornament is missing, hood will not close down all the way, a cooler line is sticking out with a drywall screw in the end, grill seems out of place, more angled out than it should be, and some pieces are missing between the bumper and
[MBZ] $250 300SD pictures
I did take several pictures of the car inside and out if anyone is interested. I'll send them off list. BillR From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 02 00:13:52 2007 Received: from web56604.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([66.196.97.48]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HMvPD-0006CV-Im for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:13:52 + Received: (qmail 36072 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Mar 2007 00:13:43 - X-YMail-OSG: ObvFMiAVM1nmXlTTHrAj0QfzV4tRXf03IBnGJF_ol76WkJp2TG2SnEFYiLcqHSSGogWVAFz2hkSB5ZWOxekEeGDQkufC8fAVIvHdjsZapmE2WGdTa6_owurUCsZ6h3.rPfmmI8simwrK.MPVYIKeisFG Received: from [130.76.32.167] by web56604.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:13:43 PST Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:13:43 -0800 (PST) From: B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: [MBZ] W115 Tranny control Rod X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:13:52 - W115'ers My daughter's 75 240D slips during the 3-4 shift but she knows how to 'shift with the throttle' to deal with it. How do I adjust the transmission control rod to harden up the shifts? Thanks, Bruce 82 300CD 348kmi 'His' 85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place 74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen' 73 220D 'Fnu Lnu' - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 02 00:17:58 2007 Received: from mail.atlasok.com ([70.184.24.3]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HMvTB-0006SS-Vc for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:17:58 + Received: (qmail 5520 invoked by uid 508); 1 Mar 2007 18:18:03 -0600 Received: from 70.184.21.45 by mail2.atlasok.com (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 508) with qmail-scanner-2.01st (clamdscan: 0.90rc2/2257. spamassassin: 2.x. perlscan: 2.01st. Clear:RC:1(70.184.21.45):. Processed in 0.036449 secs); 02 Mar 2007 00:18:03 - Received: from 70-184-21-45.atlasok.com (HELO [192.168.1.101]) (70.184.21.45) by mail.atlasok.com with SMTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:18:03 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:18:06 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] $250 1985 300SD X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:17:58 - Thats even less than parts car value with a bad engine. Rich Thomas wrote: Yeah but for $250 it is a really really good deal, a good cheap Benz! I know all the advice in that regard, but if you have a place to put it, a tolerant domestic manager, and some time and interest in hacking on it to get it running half decent, it would a fun bit of hobby and then you could sell it for a bio-dmobile. A good kid's car even, if it gets banged up then who cares... Besides that, I know you really want to. --R BillR wrote: Based on what the guy said about it not going over 65 MPH I bought fuel filters and headed out. When I saw the car I was a bit reluctant to stop, but figured it was worth a look. The odo says 217k miles. Carfax says 204k in '96, so I
