Re: [MBZ] what are your odds?
There will always be some risk in any activity, driving, flying, or just sitting at home. But the danger on our highways could really be reduced substantially IF we required drivers to actually LEARN how to drive, and not issue licenses out of cracker jack boxes. It takes about 2 years in Europe to get a driver's license, and you can lose it for a long time and pay heavy fines if you are caught doing something stupid. Here in the USA, in some states we have 16 and 17 year olds (given BMWs and Caddy SUVs by indulgent parents) on the road legally after passing a very minimal written test, and they may or may not even have to pass a driving test. And that test is usually more about parking than knowing how to safely drive at legal speeds. One has to wonder if the parents realize that they are seriously jeopardizing their children's lives by turning them loose without proper training and in too much of a car? That spinning 3/4 ton truck was probably either driven carelessly or by a driver that was never taught how to keep from losing it. Its wrong to pre-judge without knowing the facts, but IMO, 9 times out of 10, the driver in the skid did something wrong. Werner - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] what are your odds? A bit of a gruesome subject but on my mind these past few days. My next door neighbors' daughter-in-law was killed last Friday morning on her way to work. She was driving a Ford Escort and was hit by an F250 4X4 that lost it and spun accross the median and right into the driver's side of her car. A fraction of a second either way and the truck should have passed in front of her or behind her. I have to wonder if she had been driving a more robust vehicle, if she might have had a better chance. Can't help but think of that little video of the old Mercedes being crash tested. Maybe it was just her time and it wouldn't have mattered what she was driving? A bit of a sad thing for everyone though. She was 34 and she and her husband have a toddler who is not yet 3. Randy
Re: [MBZ] what are your odds?
I have to wonder if she had been driving a more robust vehicle, if she might have had a better chance. That is the reason Marshall Booth is on this list. Perhaps he will elaborate once again. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
[MBZ] 126 pre chambers
Today I cleaned my motor and replaced the head cover gasket, which I blamed to cause all the oil on the outside of the motor. Took it for a drive and noticed at a stop after 15 miles that the #1, #2 #4 prechambers were leaking motor oil didn't make it home. Rattled like the crank bearings went. The power suddenly went away and when I had to get off the throttle it died. Oil pressure was full peg. Oil is pouring out of where #1 prechamber screws in the head, # 2 # 4 are wet. And it almost tries to start. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Amtrak
MARTA, dont ask what it means. Tom Hargrave wrote: I grew up in Germany, where public transportation and especially the trains were great. But even in Germany, my relatives all drove because they lived in rural areas. The focus is different in the States. We have too many open areas where public transportation is a poor solution. Atlanta is a great example of an effective public transportation system at work, so is the SF Bay Area, but I doubt that you will see effective public transportation in Arab, AL or any other less populated area. We actually have a bus based public transportation system here in Huntsville, AL. I even see people riding them every once in a while.. Huntsville has about 130,000 residents. The issue? We are spread across a city that's 25 miles long by 9 miles wide our shopping centers really aren't that centralized. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers
I have sure never heard of this before. Hans Neureiter wrote: Today I cleaned my motor and replaced the head cover gasket, which I blamed to cause all the oil on the outside of the motor. Took it for a drive and noticed at a stop after 15 miles that the #1, #2 #4 prechambers were leaking motor oil didn't make it home. Rattled like the crank bearings went. The power suddenly went away and when I had to get off the throttle it died. Oil pressure was full peg. Oil is pouring out of where #1 prechamber screws in the head, # 2 # 4 are wet. And it almost tries to start. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers
The only thing I've seen leaking around injectors or pre-chambers is diesel fuel. Check the turbo intake for a pool of oil. Peter
Re: [MBZ] what are your odds?
Howdy - Have had several kinds of things like that lately - a second or even a split second either way can mean the difference between seeing the next sunrise or not. It's like long distance sailors crossing the Pacific - the largest piece of water on earth - and small sailboats moving at 5 knots occassionally occupy the same space at the same time as a large cargo ship doing 15 knots - the cargo ship never knew anything happened and one more sailboat goes missing after not arriving at the expected time with never an explanation. . I very strongly believe MBs strength in a crash have enabled a lot of people to walk away who normally wouldn't. I've walked a few junkyards looking at MBs and other makes - I don't recall seeing *any* MB damaged so badly the doors couldn't be opened. In many cases all the window glass was still intact. I'm referring mostly to older MBs - say, pre '95 - haven't been wandering junkyards lately - so I don't know if things have changed with newer cars. Also, the use of air bags has saved a lot of lives. My wife is one of them. It's also the reason we bought a W124 with airbags. Werner's suggestion about better/tougher licensing is something that's long over due. But todays over-indulgent parents will never allow it. They see driving as a right and not a privilige. As soon as a state proposes more stringent drivers ed or more difficult testing the lawyers will decend upon them. Everybody from the ACLU to the AAA and the SPCA will attack any plan to require real driving training. There's an excellent History Channel special about the Autobahn - the question about an equal type of highway in the US came up and the comparision about the lengthy licensing requirements in Europe as well as expensive, costing as much as $2000 Vs less than $20 here. Quite a disparity. That's also the reason many people take driving so lightly. Heck, it takes as many as 3 DUIs before a persons license is suspended. Someone has to die before someone actually goes to jail. Then, a prison term of 5 years for *killing* someone is not unusual. My brother-in-law was killed in '04 when he was hit by a drunk on the way home from *celebrating* his birthday. There was a great State Farm commercial on TV a few years ago about an agent refusing to insure a 16 year old who was given a new Camaro for his birthday - he said more kids are killed/injured in Firebirds and Camaro's than any other and he said the parents might not want to hear it but kids that age are not mature enough to manage 300 or 400+ HP. And they end up dead against a tree one night. Very sorry to hear about your neighbors D-I-L -- their life will never be the same. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] what are your odds? A bit of a gruesome subject but on my mind these past few days. My next door neighbors' daughter-in-law was killed last Friday morning on her way to work. She was driving a Ford Escort and was hit by an F250 4X4 that lost it and spun accross the median and right into the driver's side of her car. A fraction of a second either way and the truck should have passed in front of her or behind her. I have to wonder if she had been driving a more robust vehicle, if she might have had a better chance. Can't help but think of that little video of the old Mercedes being crash tested. Maybe it was just her time and it wouldn't have mattered what she was driving? A bit of a sad thing for everyone though. She was 34 and she and her husband have a toddler who is not yet 3. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Audio mods
Thanks Mike - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods Larry, YOu can pick up cheap(way less than $100) portable CD players with an anti-shock/skip feature that prevents that annoying problem. I've seen them as low as 29 bucks at Wally World. Mike - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods Hi Jim, When you say Walkman, I assume you're talking about a CD player? I tried that also and the skipping was so bad I couldn't enjoy the discs. I hope a iPod or MP3 player will be a lot more stable. Do you have any experience with either of those? This will be my 1st experience with an MP3 or iPod player.Actually I'm not positive about how they work - I assume they have a harddrive where music, data voice is stored? Is that close? Will a MP or iPod be more stable than a CD player? TIA - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods Those little cassette tape with a wire things work really well for that, are dirt cheap, and no mods needed. That's what I have now. The entire system: Sony discman, cassette adapter, car, and home power adapters was $5 at the thrift store, and all works. I love surfing the trailing edge! But the system is awkward with all the cables, the Alpine makes a lot of transport noise, and the audio path is easily overdriven into distortion. Something a bit more integrated would be a nice solution, but probably will never happen. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stick shift W201, what years and engines?
Alex Chamberlain wrote: I guess I'll have to check out that '93 then and see just what it is... a 2.6 stick Sportline in good shape would be a find! I know Sportline on the 124 meant stiffer suspension, better seats, closer-ratio steering, and of course the little badges behind the front wheels... any other goodies on the 201? Limited slip, maybe? I think only the 16v got LSD. IIRC, the Sportline has the same ratio and smaller steering wheel than the 16v, with front suspension similar to the 16v, rear stiffer/lower than normal but I don't think it was SLS like the 16v. Seats identical to 16v, but I think there were more colors available. Badge on the fender of at least some of them. There was a champagne 2.6-5ap, 92 or 93, in the Milwakee area a couple of years ago, one owner IIRC, asking $4-5k. Out of my buying range, but probably worth it considering it's 5x as rare as a 16v and seemed to be in beautiful shape. I think 16v were at least 1/2 5sp, but the sportlines were probably less than 20% stick, and they only made about 400 a year total 2.3+2.6. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Audio mods
Thanks Werner -- I'm discovering a huge world of different MP3's and iPod's - including some without *any* memory sticks* - gotta watch the amd read the descriptions carefully! I've learned that 1 or 2 GBs will be plently of storage for us - mostly Debbie and her books-on-tape which I have found takes very little space. I still find it amazing to recall when PCs began to arrive in our corp tech center - the better ones had 4mb's of HDs followed 6 months later or so by 8mb's and then 16mb which meant we were hot stuff. ;-) and eveyone knows how fast things went from there - doubling every 3-9 months - in speed and capacity. When I think back to 4mbs and the need too unload some programs to make room for others. We couldn't *comprehend* a Gigabytye then (still can't) and now I have 500 or more GBs in my desktop. Things have changed a lot - * - just a few days ago I didn;t know what a memory stick was! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods Larry - most of the large capacity MP3s (over 20 Gig) are mini-hard drives; small ones, typically 2-3 Gig are solid state memory. I've had no problem with the Phillips 30GB MP3 player, rough roads or sitting still. Werner - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods Hi Jim, When you say Walkman, I assume you're talking about a CD player? I tried that also and the skipping was so bad I couldn't enjoy the discs. I hope a iPod or MP3 player will be a lot more stable. Do you have any experience with either of those? This will be my 1st experience with an MP3 or iPod player.Actually I'm not positive about how they work - I assume they have a harddrive where music, data voice is stored? Is that close? Will a MP or iPod be more stable than a CD player? TIA - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Amtrak
you enjoyed marta, no? On 3/13/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MARTA, dont ask what it means. Tom Hargrave wrote: I grew up in Germany, where public transportation and especially the trains were great. But even in Germany, my relatives all drove because they lived in rural areas. The focus is different in the States. We have too many open areas where public transportation is a poor solution. Atlanta is a great example of an effective public transportation system at work, so is the SF Bay Area, but I doubt that you will see effective public transportation in Arab, AL or any other less populated area. We actually have a bus based public transportation system here in Huntsville, AL. I even see people riding them every once in a while.. Huntsville has about 130,000 residents. The issue? We are spread across a city that's 25 miles long by 9 miles wide our shopping centers really aren't that centralized. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Audio mods
When you say Walkman, I assume you're talking about a CD player? I did say Discman, Sony's particular walkabout CD player. tried that also and the skipping was so bad I couldn't enjoy the discs. This particular one has a switch-selectable read-ahead buffer that dramatically improves its shock resistance. Presumably it was switchable because either they didn't entirely trust it, or it cuts battery life. It takes a pretty heinous bump to faze it. I think I did OK for $5! hope a iPod or MP3 player will be a lot more stable. Do you have any experience with either of those? My wife bought a friend's iPod, but I have no experience with it. She bought it to record rehearsal sessions. (It has a clip-on recorder. She got the works for $100 from a friend who was upgrading.) She's only just now getting around to trying it out. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Auto extending_retracting antenna on 300D
I've even tried pulling on the top section as hard as I could while it was extending to see if I could help unstick the center two sections. Once they get that badly wedged, I've never had any luck freeing them up. Time for a new mast, if full extension matters to you. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 87 Timing chain GEARS replacement
I was told that as a matter of maintenance and precaution, we should change the timing chain and rails on our 1983 300TD and 1985 300CD every 100,000 miles. On a V8, maybe. Not on the inline engines. The amount of chain flexure between the two designs is _vastly_ different. Measure the stretch, and replace as necessary. -- Jim
[MBZ] Frankenheapery
Today at lunch I checked the U-Pull's online inventory list, and found a new-to-me 1970 250, it can't have been there very long. 114.010-12-XX. So off I went, hopeful that it might have some nice doors or something. Yes! A nice nearly rust-free sedan that was probably sidelined due to Zenith carburetor or ignition problems. (There were loose parts in the trunk.) Somebody had gotten the interior door hardware and screwed up the console, and had taken the tranny, but there was still plenty left. Maybe half (or more) of the good stuff was already gone. For $45 I was able to nab the two front doors, _with_ mirrors! The rubber door seals were also very good, as were the B-pillar seals. The white color is certainly not a match, but paint will probably be easier to deal with than rust. The seats and carpets are also very nice. Bamboo, or nearly so. But I don't think I need them. I'm thinking about going back for the rear door and trunk seals, if they're as good as the fronts. Does anybody know if the hood from this 114 will fit my 115? Fenders? I seem to recall that the 114's engine compartment may be longer to fit the 6-cylinder motors. The car is largely dent- and rust-free, it seems a shame to let it go to waste. Whether the Frankenheap would ever _wear_ these new parts is another interesting question. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel???????????????
Wait a minute - doesn't the new TDI need urea to meet emission specs? That's what the camel urine is for, and soymeal (or grass) would be good feed stock. On 3/13/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about an exclusively corn and soymeal-fed camel? Won't its urine have properties similar to biodiesel? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers
I already feel better. I had gassers do this when you run low on oil and the crank bearings go. But there will be a oil gage on zero or a red light on This is definately something that looks like pitch black engine oil; and it is coming out of the head where the prechamber collar screws in to it. When I first noticed it, air bubbles were coming through the puddle of oil. I just pressure cleaned the engine, but maybe there is enough crud left to make diesel look like black engine oil when it drips on the ground. Engine oil from a cracked head or head gasket would not do this to #'s 1, 2 and 4 at the same time. So there is light at the end of the tunnel. What would the symptoms of the suddenly developing clattering noises, power loss and 20 miles later dead at the roadside lead to? Loose or cracked prechambers, bad injectors, bad seal rings ? On 3/13/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing I've seen leaking around injectors or pre-chambers is diesel fuel. Check the turbo intake for a pool of oil. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] German speed limits
One of the old granny tales. We drive faster on the Interstates here than the Krauts do on the Autobahn. And every little village along the roadside has Lärm Kontroll Gebiet (noice control area). On 3/13/07, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aw c'mon, Andrew... Just share No imposition! Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Mar 13, 2007, at 9:42 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I dream of a lot of stuff I wouldn't want to impose on the rest of you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers
Worst case it ingested water and it's toast (bent rods), but in that case the response would have been pretty fast and probably wouldn't have started. Lots of blue smoke out the back before it died? Don't know -- time to pull the injectors and do a compression test. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Amtrak
MARTA is functional but I never said it was nice. All public transit systems are a compromise. I will say that MARTA is the best way to go down town on Friday or Saturday night. Tom -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 3/13/07 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amtrak you enjoyed marta, no? On 3/13/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MARTA, dont ask what it means. Tom Hargrave wrote: I grew up in Germany, where public transportation and especially the trains were great. But even in Germany, my relatives all drove because they lived in rural areas. The focus is different in the States. We have too many open areas where public transportation is a poor solution. Atlanta is a great example of an effective public transportation system at work, so is the SF Bay Area, but I doubt that you will see effective public transportation in Arab, AL or any other less populated area. We actually have a bus based public transportation system here in Huntsville, AL. I even see people riding them every once in a while.. Huntsville has about 130,000 residents. The issue? We are spread across a city that's 25 miles long by 9 miles wide our shopping centers really aren't that centralized. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 Timing chain GEARS replacement
The M102 does require chain replacement on a more regular basis. Also there is no 100% way of measuring stretch, experience may tell you a bit but generally if in doubt change it out. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 Timing chain GEARS replacement I was told that as a matter of maintenance and precaution, we should change the timing chain and rails on our 1983 300TD and 1985 300CD every 100,000 miles. On a V8, maybe. Not on the inline engines. The amount of chain flexure between the two designs is _vastly_ different. Measure the stretch, and replace as necessary. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] German speed limits
Oh so you go 300kmh along the interstate? Very impressive. - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] German speed limits One of the old granny tales. We drive faster on the Interstates here than the Krauts do on the Autobahn. And every little village along the roadside has Lärm Kontroll Gebiet (noice control area).
[MBZ] Fwd: Amtrak
bah, somehow ended up sending this to hargrave. so i'm not quite bright enough to use email :P -- Forwarded message -- From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mar 13, 2007 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amtrak To: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] i've never ridden a marta bus, but i've always thought highly of the trains. I once made kleb take one and he was frightened. he has obviously never broken down at night in detroit. On 3/13/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MARTA is functional but I never said it was nice. All public transit systems are a compromise. I will say that MARTA is the best way to go down town on Friday or Saturday night. Tom -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 3/13/07 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amtrak you enjoyed marta, no? On 3/13/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MARTA, dont ask what it means. Tom Hargrave wrote: I grew up in Germany, where public transportation and especially the trains were great. But even in Germany, my relatives all drove because they lived in rural areas. The focus is different in the States. We have too many open areas where public transportation is a poor solution. Atlanta is a great example of an effective public transportation system at work, so is the SF Bay Area, but I doubt that you will see effective public transportation in Arab, AL or any other less populated area. We actually have a bus based public transportation system here in Huntsville, AL. I even see people riding them every once in a while.. Huntsville has about 130,000 residents. The issue? We are spread across a city that's 25 miles long by 9 miles wide our shopping centers really aren't that centralized. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] September delivery
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Re: [MBZ] The Chicken Wagon rides again!
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:53:10 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I removed the B pillar on the passenger side to expose the windlace. What is it that you are calling, windlace? Those little cloth-wrapped foam noodles that are glued to the door frame on both sides of the B pillar. See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/CWwindlace.jpg for a bad one! The sun rots them. Oh, yeah! They're bad on my car, too. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel???????????????
Don - you're correct, the Bluetec M-B CDI Diesels do indeed use Urea injection to meet the Euro Bin5 standards. But the only TDI I'm aware of is the recent (2005 and earlier) VW Diesels, which don't use Urea - and don't meet the new specs, either! Werner - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel??? Wait a minute - doesn't the new TDI need urea to meet emission specs? That's what the camel urine is for, and soymeal (or grass) would be good feed stock. On 3/13/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about an exclusively corn and soymeal-fed camel? Won't its urine have properties similar to biodiesel? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] LED resister value for 12 volt system
Hi; found the small LED resisters in the window switches on Mercedes Benz.; they had 2 color stripe patterns; but they are around 1000 OHMS to 1500 OHMS in series, with LEDS; 1/8 watt Steve
Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers
This sounds almost exactly like how my OM617 went last fall, except mine took a few weeks to go from oh oh, where is that oil coming from, to the point where it was no longer drivable. Mine was blowing oil out everywhere at the end, except through the turbo. Mac on 3/13/07 21:16, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have sure never heard of this before. Hans Neureiter wrote: Today I cleaned my motor and replaced the head cover gasket, which I blamed to cause all the oil on the outside of the motor. Took it for a drive and noticed at a stop after 15 miles that the #1, #2 #4 prechambers were leaking motor oil didn't make it home. Rattled like the crank bearings went. The power suddenly went away and when I had to get off the throttle it died. Oil pressure was full peg. Oil is pouring out of where #1 prechamber screws in the head, # 2 # 4 are wet. And it almost tries to start.
[MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for $178 plus shipping
I just solved my sometimes working orig. radio problem; changed it out; heaven forbid car is not all original; i don' give a rats ---; i added a new Stereo that plays; DVD/DVR-R+/VCD/MP3/WMA/MP4/CD-RW COMPATIBLE; support USB MMC/SD Memory card for direct playback; NTSC (M,N) , PAL, SECAM TV TUNER RECEIVER; Electronic Anti-shock; NTSC/PAL/Secam Compatible; 2 pairs RCA Outputs; AM/FM/MPX Stereo Receiver; 30 station presets; auto memory store/ preset scan; Preset EQ (Pop,Rock, Classic) ; 4x60 W. Max. high power Output; Rds Eon function; Electronic audio control; Subwoffer output; Picture control, Brightness, Color, Contrast, Tint, Reflection Size; Card size Full function Remote Control; Rear Video output Has TV (live in country, so doesn't work in country well) Video screen 3.5 Inch. screen; place for computer USB, place for Digital camera memory; a bunch of stuff i don't know about HA! HA! I bypassed M.B. FADER switch hooked up speakers correctly; now i have nice radio, cd player movie player ETC. VERY NICE UNIT FOR $218; with overnight shipping Steve
Re: [MBZ] 87 Timing chain GEARS replacement
The M102 does require chain replacement on a more regular basis. Is that a twin-cam? I'd expect them to be more hard on chains as well. I'm guessing you can pretty much look at the chain path and figure how long one of MB's chains will last. (Ignoring defective designs like the single-row 3.8 and defective materials like those bad chains in the 90's.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers
In a message dated 3/13/2007 4:58:35 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Today I cleaned my motor and replaced the head cover gasket, which I blamed to cause all the oil on the outside of the motor. Took it for a drive and noticed at a stop after 15 miles that the #1, #2 #4 prechambers were leaking motor oil didn't make it home. Rattled like the crank bearings went. The power suddenly went away and when I had to get off the throttle it died. Oil pressure was full peg. Oil is pouring out of where #1 prechamber screws in the head, # 2 # 4 are wet. And it almost tries to start. Hans, This sounds like an extreme case of blowby, enough pressure inside the engine crankcase ( which IS open to the inside of the injection pump) to shut off the fuel to the engine. It does this by crankcase pressure pushing on the fuel injection shutoff diaphragm, just like when you put vacuum to the opposite side of it! I would try to start it with the oil fill cap removed to relieve the internal crankcase pressure. Be ready to deal with copious amounts of oil being thrown out though the filler opening. What could cause this. A big hole in a piston, a major shift in engine timing, let us know what you find. I would plan on doing a compression test to confirm which cylinder has the holed piston. good luck! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 147 K miles BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers
Hi Hans, Just remember you're asking people to make a diagnosis based on a long distance assessment of the description you provided. You need to be cautious and expect things to be worse or not nearly so bad as you're reading. Start by going thru the diagnosis step by step. A compression test first will tell you volumns about the engines condition. Also, what was the engine like before you washed it? How many miles on it? How long have you owned and cared for it? How often do you change oil? What kind of oil do you use? What weight? Seeing how the engine reacted do you still think the cam cover gasket was the source of the oil leak? Or is it likely one or more of the pre-chambers were leaking to begin with and washing somehow made things worse? I assume the engine had cooled while you worked on it so it was not hot when you washed it? Later --- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 7:57 PM Subject: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers Today I cleaned my motor and replaced the head cover gasket, which I blamed to cause all the oil on the outside of the motor. Took it for a drive and noticed at a stop after 15 miles that the #1, #2 #4 prechambers were leaking motor oil didn't make it home. Rattled like the crank bearings went. The power suddenly went away and when I had to get off the throttle it died. Oil pressure was full peg. Oil is pouring out of where #1 prechamber screws in the head, # 2 # 4 are wet. And it almost tries to start. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for $178 plusshipping
Hi Steve, What year is your 300D? It sounds like you ended up with a great system!! I'm sure you'll get many years of excellent service from it - and hours hours of reading that instruction manual. ;-) All that fun for $200 is a bargain! You didn't have a trunk mounted CD changer did you? I considered replacing my head unit, tuner and amp but would need to run new speaker wires and a new antenna wire. Which I really want to avoid. The stereo is a very nice one although it's 16 years old and things like that become obsolete once the public gets their hands on them. Also, I'm not convinced CDs and DVDs are superior to cassettes and VHS tapes. I have VHS tapes going back to '84 with F1 races I taped that are as good as the day I recorded them. The tapes are much heavier - I guess the tape material was much thicker back then. I wonder if CDs and DVDs will still work when they're 20+ years old? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Stephen D Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:14 AM Subject: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for $178 plusshipping I just solved my sometimes working orig. radio problem; changed it out; heaven forbid car is not all original; i don' give a rats ---; i added a new Stereo that plays; DVD/DVR-R+/VCD/MP3/WMA/MP4/CD-RW COMPATIBLE; support USB MMC/SD Memory card for direct playback; NTSC (M,N) , PAL, SECAM TV TUNER RECEIVER; Electronic Anti-shock; NTSC/PAL/Secam Compatible; 2 pairs RCA Outputs; AM/FM/MPX Stereo Receiver; 30 station presets; auto memory store/ preset scan; Preset EQ (Pop,Rock, Classic) ; 4x60 W. Max. high power Output; Rds Eon function; Electronic audio control; Subwoffer output; Picture control, Brightness, Color, Contrast, Tint, Reflection Size; Card size Full function Remote Control; Rear Video output Has TV (live in country, so doesn't work in country well) Video screen 3.5 Inch. screen; place for computer USB, place for Digital camera memory; a bunch of stuff i don't know about HA! HA! I bypassed M.B. FADER switch hooked up speakers correctly; now i have nice radio, cd player movie player ETC. VERY NICE UNIT FOR $218; with overnight shipping Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for $178 plusshipping
I wonder if CDs and DVDs will still work when they're 20+ years old? Well, considering that the CD was introduced circa 1983 and I bought a Kyocera player and some discs within about a year and that they (player included!) still work... I trust aluminum-plated pressed polycarbonate far more than I trust tape in terms of holding up. I am less sanguine about the _recordable_ CD/DVD media, but I could be wrong. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers
The engine ran without any problems. Easy start, good performance. 175K miles on it. For the last 20k miles it had quite a bit blowby (wet air cleaner and at the filler plug) and leaked a lot at the top. Synthetic oil (Mobil1 10-40) since last 4 changes (at ~8k). Oil changes with vac. sucker. Engine was cold when I cleaned it. Camcover was definately leaking, don't know about the prechambers. After I replaced the gasket it was 3 qt low on oil. I toped it off and drove it to see if the leaks stoped, I heard faint noises after ~ 10 miles and at ~ 20 miles it got quickly worse. The noise was like if a crankshaft bearing is failling. After I towed it home I tried to start it and it tries to run, like hitting on 1 or 2 cylinders (similar to starving for fuel). If there is excessive blowby (hole in the piston), wouldn't there be a lot of oil in the aircleaner? Where is the best way to check compression, i.e. at the glow plug hole? On 3/14/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Hans, Just remember you're asking people to make a diagnosis based on a long distance assessment of the description you provided. You need to be cautious and expect things to be worse or not nearly so bad as you're reading. Start by going thru the diagnosis step by step. A compression test first will tell you volumns about the engines condition. Also, what was the engine like before you washed it? How many miles on it? How long have you owned and cared for it? How often do you change oil? What kind of oil do you use? What weight? Seeing how the engine reacted do you still think the cam cover gasket was the source of the oil leak? Or is it likely one or more of the pre-chambers were leaking to begin with and washing somehow made things worse? I assume the engine had cooled while you worked on it so it was not hot when you washed it? Later --- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 7:57 PM Subject: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers Today I cleaned my motor and replaced the head cover gasket, which I blamed to cause all the oil on the outside of the motor. Took it for a drive and noticed at a stop after 15 miles that the #1, #2 #4 prechambers were leaking motor oil didn't make it home. Rattled like the crank bearings went. The power suddenly went away and when I had to get off the throttle it died. Oil pressure was full peg. Oil is pouring out of where #1 prechamber screws in the head, # 2 # 4 are wet. And it almost tries to start. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] German speed limits
When and where can you go 300 kmh? The only true no speedlimit I have seen was in Italy on some of the toll Autostradas some 10 years ago. On 3/13/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh so you go 300kmh along the interstate? Very impressive. - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] German speed limits One of the old granny tales. We drive faster on the Interstates here than the Krauts do on the Autobahn. And every little village along the roadside has Lärm Kontroll Gebiet (noice control area). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers
Where is the best way to check compression, i.e. at the glow plug hole? On the older 61X engines that's certainly easier. I think it's less obvious on the 60X. However, if you've now got bubbling around the injectors you're going to end up pulling them anyway, so you may wish to do it through the injector holes. My $17 Harbor Freight diesel compression gauge will go either way. I used it on that 240D I sold, and it was very easy to do. (Via GP.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for $178 plusshipping
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:32:13 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I trust aluminum-plated pressed polycarbonate far more than I trust tape in terms of holding up. I am less sanguine about the _recordable_ CD/DVD media, but I could be wrong. I've had a recordable CD go bad before, so you're not wrong. I don't how what percentage of them do go bad and how long it takes, though (and I'm not about to initiate a study ... ) Craig
Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for $178 plusshipping
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:18:23 -0400 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I considered replacing my head unit, tuner and amp but would need to run new speaker wires and a new antenna wire. Which I really want to avoid. Why would you need to do that? I bought a new radio from Crutchfield (http://www.crutchfield.com) and it came with all the necessary adapters to use the factory wiring. The folks at Crutchfield want your installation to be a success -- you can call them pre-purchase and ask questions; you can call them post sale and ask questions, too. Call them at (888) 955-6000, ask them your questions, and let us know what they say. Craig
Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers
I am trying to go through the different scenarios in my mind. If the crankshaft went, it should start if it cranks as easy as it does? I have no whatsoever experience with trouble shooting prechambers/injectors, what failure symptoms are and what to look for. I know from tales that they can make all kinds of ungodly noises. I am going to pull the most obvious culprit and report back. Thanks guys. On 3/14/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is the best way to check compression, i.e. at the glow plug hole? On the older 61X engines that's certainly easier. I think it's less obvious on the 60X. However, if you've now got bubbling around the injectors you're going to end up pulling them anyway, so you may wish to do it through the injector holes. My $17 Harbor Freight diesel compression gauge will go either way. I used it on that 240D I sold, and it was very easy to do. (Via GP.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] what are your odds?
In any kind of bad weather a pickup truck is about the WORST vehicle to have. The pickups of today are especially bad. Big engines, light rear ends and bad gas mileage. But wait you say, how could bad gas mileage make pickup trucks more dangerous? I know this one because I've been there. Bad gas mileage gets worse in four wheel drive so some pickup truck drivers will try to get away without being in four wheel drive in conditions where they really should be using it. A pickup truck in slippery conditions in 2wd is downright dangerous, especially an automatic transmission truck, especially an overpowered automatic transmissioned truck (which is like 90% of pickups being made today). Don't get me wrong I love having a v8 in my Dodge Dakota but having taken on a guardrail while traveling sideways at 60mph up Rt 95 at the tail end of a snowstorm I've learned to be vary wary... We were going up a fairly small hill, anybody who's driven 95 in southern Maine knows its made up of mostly gently rolling hills. The snow had quit an hour or so before and the roads were mostly clear so I'd shifted into 2wd to save some gas. I was young and dumb. I was going a bit faster than was prudent (young and dumb) even though the back end of the truck had kicked out a bit a couple times before. So finally the back end kicked out so bad I couldn't get it back. The big problem was that I was used to driving a manual transmission which doesn't shift by itself. On those hills the auto would shift and the increase torque would send us skittering. I've since learned to manually take it out of overdrive in those conditions. Oh and I drive slower now too and gas mileage be dammed I keep it in 4wd. Anyway my story ends pretty well, we slid down the crown of the road into the guardrail which was fortunately covered in snow. Bounced off, slid 180 degrees and came to a stop without getting hit by traffic. The bumper was dented up and some plastic trim damaged but still intact. I've left it that way as a reminder... Note that at this point I'd been driving for 6 years and had logged probably 90,000 miles, much of it in the snow. The problem was that I was inexperienced with that vehicle and fueled with a bit of remaining young man testosterone invincibility... I'd bought the Dakota myself with my own money... -Curt Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:14:43 -0400 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] what are your odds? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original There will always be some risk in any activity, driving, flying, or just sitting at home. But the danger on our highways could really be reduced substantially IF we required drivers to actually LEARN how to drive, and not issue licenses out of cracker jack boxes. It takes about 2 years in Europe to get a driver's license, and you can lose it for a long time and pay heavy fines if you are caught doing something stupid. Here in the USA, in some states we have 16 and 17 year olds (given BMWs and Caddy SUVs by indulgent parents) on the road legally after passing a very minimal written test, and they may or may not even have to pass a driving test. And that test is usually more about parking than knowing how to safely drive at legal speeds. One has to wonder if the parents realize that they are seriously jeopardizing their children's lives by turning them loose without proper training and in too much of a car? That spinning 3/4 ton truck was probably either driven carelessly or by a driver that was never taught how to keep from losing it. Its wrong to pre-judge without knowing the facts, but IMO, 9 times out of 10, the driver in the skid did something wrong. Werner - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 14 14:18:00 2007 Received: from web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.42]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HRUIh-0002E2-Pl for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:18:00 + Received: (qmail 95867 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Mar 2007 14:17:54 - X-YMail-OSG: LT1wWoYVM1mLraDhu.opEOVHPDZh_HeCWgi3XtvDtOpfxKff7LB8Xa24liTZwxaQU.SWvQzCYJmsSHdpEV0iOApdOEorruDZM3V3hVZJeKDTzVxmwwPuH3O.QP1lS0cKHT1_9ZtjMKycjaA- Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32812.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:17:54 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:17:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel
Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for $178plusshipping
Heck, I still have cassette tapes I bought in the 80's and 8 tracks my mom bought in the 70's, oh, and a few old reeel to reel tapes that still play just fine. I think CD's will last much longer than that. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for $178plusshipping I wonder if CDs and DVDs will still work when they're 20+ years old? Well, considering that the CD was introduced circa 1983 and I bought a Kyocera player and some discs within about a year and that they (player included!) still work... I trust aluminum-plated pressed polycarbonate far more than I trust tape in terms of holding up. I am less sanguine about the _recordable_ CD/DVD media, but I could be wrong. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what are your odds?
Simple solution.Throw some sand bags in the back. No more light rear end. Grew up driving 2wd Chevy trucks. My Dad didn't believe there was any need for a 4WD truck. I'll take a RWD anything with a little weight in the rear and good snow tires over a FrontWD of any sort. That's just my preference though. Mike - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] what are your odds? In any kind of bad weather a pickup truck is about the WORST vehicle to have. The pickups of today are especially bad. Big engines, light rear ends and bad gas mileage. But wait you say, how could bad gas mileage make pickup trucks more dangerous? I know this one because I've been there. Bad gas mileage gets worse in four wheel drive so some pickup truck drivers will try to get away without being in four wheel drive in conditions where they really should be using it. A pickup truck in slippery conditions in 2wd is downright dangerous, especially an automatic transmission truck, especially an overpowered automatic transmissioned truck (which is like 90% of pickups being made today). Don't get me wrong I love having a v8 in my Dodge Dakota but having taken on a guardrail while traveling sideways at 60mph up Rt 95 at the tail end of a snowstorm I've learned to be vary wary... We were going up a fairly small hill, anybody who's driven 95 in southern Maine knows its made up of mostly gently rolling hills. The snow had quit an hour or so before and the roads were mostly clear so I'd shifted into 2wd to save some gas. I was young and dumb. I was going a bit faster than was prudent (young and dumb) even though the back end of the truck had kicked out a bit a couple times before. So finally the back end kicked out so bad I couldn't get it back. The big problem was that I was used to driving a manual transmission which doesn't shift by itself. On those hills the auto would shift and the increase torque would send us skittering. I've since learned to manually take it out of overdrive in those conditions. Oh and I drive slower now too and gas mileage be dammed I keep it in 4wd. Anyway my story ends pretty well, we slid down the crown of the road into the guardrail which was fortunately covered in snow. Bounced off, slid 180 degrees and came to a stop without getting hit by traffic. The bumper was dented up and some plastic trim damaged but still intact. I've left it that way as a reminder... Note that at this point I'd been driving for 6 years and had logged probably 90,000 miles, much of it in the snow. The problem was that I was inexperienced with that vehicle and fueled with a bit of remaining young man testosterone invincibility... I'd bought the Dakota myself with my own money... -Curt Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:14:43 -0400 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] what are your odds? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original There will always be some risk in any activity, driving, flying, or just sitting at home. But the danger on our highways could really be reduced substantially IF we required drivers to actually LEARN how to drive, and not issue licenses out of cracker jack boxes. It takes about 2 years in Europe to get a driver's license, and you can lose it for a long time and pay heavy fines if you are caught doing something stupid. Here in the USA, in some states we have 16 and 17 year olds (given BMWs and Caddy SUVs by indulgent parents) on the road legally after passing a very minimal written test, and they may or may not even have to pass a driving test. And that test is usually more about parking than knowing how to safely drive at legal speeds. One has to wonder if the parents realize that they are seriously jeopardizing their children's lives by turning them loose without proper training and in too much of a car? That spinning 3/4 ton truck was probably either driven carelessly or by a driver that was never taught how to keep from losing it. Its wrong to pre-judge without knowing the facts, but IMO, 9 times out of 10, the driver in the skid did something wrong. Werner - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what are your odds?
Back in the 50s on the coast of NC, we would use old 2WD Fords and Chevys to drag the 4WD Jeeps out of the sand on the beach. I made my spending money that way. I have NEVER had a need for a 4WD yet, and I have been driving for 50 years. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] what are your odds? Simple solution.Throw some sand bags in the back. No more light rear end. Grew up driving 2wd Chevy trucks. My Dad didn't believe there was any need for a 4WD truck. I'll take a RWD anything with a little weight in the rear and good snow tires over a FrontWD of any sort. That's just my preference though. Mike - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] what are your odds? In any kind of bad weather a pickup truck is about the WORST vehicle to have. The pickups of today are especially bad. Big engines, light rear ends and bad gas mileage. But wait you say, how could bad gas mileage make pickup trucks more dangerous? I know this one because I've been there. Bad gas mileage gets worse in four wheel drive so some pickup truck drivers will try to get away without being in four wheel drive in conditions where they really should be using it. A pickup truck in slippery conditions in 2wd is downright dangerous, especially an automatic transmission truck, especially an overpowered automatic transmissioned truck (which is like 90% of pickups being made today). Don't get me wrong I love having a v8 in my Dodge Dakota but having taken on a guardrail while traveling sideways at 60mph up Rt 95 at the tail end of a snowstorm I've learned to be vary wary... We were going up a fairly small hill, anybody who's driven 95 in southern Maine knows its made up of mostly gently rolling hills. The snow had quit an hour or so before and the roads were mostly clear so I'd shifted into 2wd to save some gas. I was young and dumb. I was going a bit faster than was prudent (young and dumb) even though the back end of the truck had kicked out a bit a couple times before. So finally the back end kicked out so bad I couldn't get it back. The big problem was that I was used to driving a manual transmission which doesn't shift by itself. On those hills the auto would shift and the increase torque would send us skittering. I've since learned to manually take it out of overdrive in those conditions. Oh and I drive slower now too and gas mileage be dammed I keep it in 4wd. Anyway my story ends pretty well, we slid down the crown of the road into the guardrail which was fortunately covered in snow. Bounced off, slid 180 degrees and came to a stop without getting hit by traffic. The bumper was dented up and some plastic trim damaged but still intact. I've left it that way as a reminder... Note that at this point I'd been driving for 6 years and had logged probably 90,000 miles, much of it in the snow. The problem was that I was inexperienced with that vehicle and fueled with a bit of remaining young man testosterone invincibility... I'd bought the Dakota myself with my own money... -Curt Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:14:43 -0400 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] what are your odds? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original There will always be some risk in any activity, driving, flying, or just sitting at home. But the danger on our highways could really be reduced substantially IF we required drivers to actually LEARN how to drive, and not issue licenses out of cracker jack boxes. It takes about 2 years in Europe to get a driver's license, and you can lose it for a long time and pay heavy fines if you are caught doing something stupid. Here in the USA, in some states we have 16 and 17 year olds (given BMWs and Caddy SUVs by indulgent parents) on the road legally after passing a very minimal written test, and they may or may not even have to pass a driving test. And that test is usually more about parking than knowing how to safely drive at legal speeds. One has to wonder if the parents realize that they are seriously jeopardizing their children's lives by turning them loose without proper training and in too much of a car? That spinning 3/4 ton truck was probably either driven carelessly or by a driver that was never taught how to keep from losing it. Its wrong to pre-judge without knowing the facts, but IMO, 9 times out of 10, the driver in the skid did something wrong. Werner - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000
Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for $178plusshipping
The problem may not be the lifetime of the media, but the lifetime of the player! How many 8-track players are still out there? BTW, I've got a bunch of really important stuff backed up on 8 inch floppies... Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 3/14/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck, I still have cassette tapes I bought in the 80's and 8 tracks my mom bought in the 70's, oh, and a few old reeel to reel tapes that still play just fine. I think CD's will last much longer than that. Mike
Re: [MBZ] Audio mods
Its amazing, when I bought my first computer in college it had a 40Mb harddrive which I upgraded to 640Mb and I thought I was hot stuff. When I _made_ my first real computer in college, it had two (count them, two!) 160 kByte floppies. I had to build the controller for them too, not from a kit. I _was_ hot stuff! Now I just sit here burnishing the tail lamps in my wife's car. :-) -- Jim
[MBZ] pictures of Iowa snow storm
http://www.iowadot.org/2007_blizzard.html This morning, only ten days later, I was able to ride the motorcycle to work on dry roads. -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
So, nobody knows if a '70 114 hood will go on a '72 115? Hey, there's $23 at stake here! (And a big PITA.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Audio mods
What year is your MB? Even though it only says Mercedes on the radio, it is very likely a Becker. I agree having a plug input added to the stereo for the iPod/MP3 like Werner had done is preferable to using the cassette with a wire option. I wrote Becker-Harman on Monday to inquire about having a MP3/iPod input plug added to my head unit and have not heard back so I may call them today - will let ya'll know what happens - Mr Khan - the Becker Grand Prix was widely used in Mercedes and a typical one can be seen in eBay item number 230103716173 - you can search ebay for that number to see a image of it, If yours is similar, it's a Becker. ;-) Good luck, Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods HiThe Griffin FM adapter for the Ipod was a disappointment purchase; it transmits a weak output and then picks up the odd static sounds too . The 'tape with a wire' gives a much cleaner sound. Would like to have a plug in aux lead for the ipod with a discreetly run cable going to the CD connector plug in the back of the unit which states, 'Mercedes Benz' on the cassette insert lid , no Becker name indication . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods Those little cassette tape with a wire things work really well for that, are dirt cheap, and no mods needed. That's what I have now. The entire system: Sony discman, cassette adapter, car, and home power adapters was $5 at the thrift store, and all works. I love surfing the trailing edge! But the system is awkward with all the cables, the Alpine makes a lot of transport noise, and the audio path is easily overdriven into distortion. Something a bit more integrated would be a nice solution, but probably will never happen. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/717 - Release Date: 3/10/2007 2:25 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what are your odds?
It takes ALOT of weight to tame my Dakota. The best thing I've used so far for winter weight is a snowmobile. 400# and if you get stuck you've got alternate transportation... Not real practical to keep in there though and its no good for gas mileage, the normal disappointing 14mpg goes to around 10. Better to just slip 'er into 4wd when its bad out. I think a manual transmission would be better, or the v6 ahead of the auto. When the v8 gives up if the body is still worth anything I might investigate a 4BT swap, less HP but way more torque. Your dad apparently never went offroad much. My camp is a 4wd manditory place for most of the year. 2wd vehicles are too low generally, although I bet I could take a 240D in there if it had good tires. I walked my '83 240D into some pretty surprising places. From about April when the snow melts until late june our camp road will be pretty sloppy although this year I'm going to cut some new drainage. Hopefully it'll just drain the water and not take all the raod with it too... -Curt Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:50:40 -0400 From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] what are your odds? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Simple solution.Throw some sand bags in the back. No more light rear end. Grew up driving 2wd Chevy trucks. My Dad didn't believe there was any need for a 4WD truck. I'll take a RWD anything with a little weight in the rear and good snow tires over a FrontWD of any sort. That's just my preference though. Mike - Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 14 15:58:42 2007 Received: from web32801.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.31]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HRVsA-0003u7-4w for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:58:42 + Received: (qmail 10728 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Mar 2007 15:58:36 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-YMail-OSG: ndaH6HAVM1mZpU_oN2wDbNK2XlB_ImZYYtpSfTEgfxjo54_o8WcAj0WkM04GTTMiuUhTGnPGgjEdnN_mgnnkEHpfBBkCBkhwkerd.E4LEPgaq2qqG8H35NzNAFyvIyQeGhd5JIAA0CarhLuvIcziO5qCJQ-- Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32801.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:58:36 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:58:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] what are your odds? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:58:42 - I belive you, people hit sand and get stupid fast... Apparently you only go sensible places. I've been lots of places a 2wd would never get to... Although with a differntial locker a 2wd will go lots of places an unlocked 4wd will not. Thats part of my plan when I build a Jeep station wagon. 4bt under the hood, airlockers in the diffs, 31 tires so it doesn't look jacked and goofy. -Curt Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:12:02 -0500 From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] what are your odds? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Back in the 50s on the coast of NC, we would use old 2WD Fords and Chevys to drag the 4WD Jeeps out of the sand on the beach. I made my spending money that way. I have NEVER had a need for a 4WD yet, and I have been driving for 50 years. Tom Potter - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 14 15:59:10 2007 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HRVsc-0003wi-6A for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:59:10 + Received: from aceraspire (c-69-243-211-95.hsd1.va.comcast.net[69.243.211.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id 20070314155904m1200imtc8e; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:59:04 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: LarryT
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
The answer is NO, it will not. Let me rephrase that, the grille will not fit it. The hood will mount. It will require new washer nozzles and connectors as well. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery So, nobody knows if a '70 114 hood will go on a '72 115? Hey, there's $23 at stake here! (And a big PITA.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Audio mods
Hi Curt - you wrote I've got 24TB thats, terrabytes Wow! TB's - that's too much to comprehend. I guess it won't be long that the home user will be able to buy TB storage. I started using computers back when we used punch cards and there was no such thing as a monitor - the data or program was input had to be re-run and a paper output printed to see results. Then we moved to offsite computer useage where we had a computer input clerk who typed the data into a onsite monitor which then ransmitted the data to a mainframe - we used the McDonald-Douglas mainframe which costs the project $15k-$20k per month. The day of PCs really saved a lot of money! Having a PC (remember the suitcase IBM PCs) on our desk was a major break-thru. Of course, back then we usually had only 256k memory to work with - back in the early 80s I bought a TRS80 - does that sound right? I mostly remember having to attach a cassette player to save any programs (very crude) I had written because there was *no* memory. Ahhh, the good old days... Things have changed -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods Hey Larry, In my classroom I've got 24TB thats, terrabytes. The system I train supports up to 192TB. Its amazing, when I bought my first computer in college it had a 40Mb harddrive which I upgraded to 640Mb and I thought I was hot stuff. -Curt Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:59:24 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Thanks Werner -- I'm discovering a huge world of different MP3's and iPod's - including some without *any* memory sticks* - gotta watch the amd read the descriptions carefully! I've learned that 1 or 2 GBs will be plently of storage for us - mostly Debbie and her books-on-tape which I have found takes very little space. I still find it amazing to recall when PCs began to arrive in our corp tech center - the better ones had 4mb's of HDs followed 6 months later or so by 8mb's and then 16mb which meant we were hot stuff. ;-) and eveyone knows how fast things went from there - doubling every 3-9 months - in speed and capacity. When I think back to 4mbs and the need too unload some programs to make room for others. We couldn't *comprehend* a Gigabytye then (still can't) and now I have 500 or more GBs in my desktop. Things have changed a lot - * - just a few days ago I didn;t know what a memory stick was! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for$178plusshipping
Well, I know of two. Mine and the one in my best friends 68 AMX..That one only plays a Steppenwolf tape. Eats anything else put into it. Mike - Original Message - From: Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for$178plusshipping The problem may not be the lifetime of the media, but the lifetime of the player! How many 8-track players are still out there? BTW, I've got a bunch of really important stuff backed up on 8 inch floppies... Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 3/14/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck, I still have cassette tapes I bought in the 80's and 8 tracks my mom bought in the 70's, oh, and a few old reeel to reel tapes that still play just fine. I think CD's will last much longer than that. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B.for$178plusshipping
Yes, but they can be refinished as long as they are not too deep and on the opposite side of the label. If the label side gets scratched through they are shot. Mike - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B.for$178plusshipping Do you have any problems when they get some scratches on them? I know they have the same music recorded several times so the over-sampling works but when using software on CD that gets scratched they sometimes stop working. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for$178plusshipping Heck, I still have cassette tapes I bought in the 80's and 8 tracks my mom bought in the 70's, oh, and a few old reeel to reel tapes that still play just fine. I think CD's will last much longer than that. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for $178plusshipping I wonder if CDs and DVDs will still work when they're 20+ years old? Well, considering that the CD was introduced circa 1983 and I bought a Kyocera player and some discs within about a year and that they (player included!) still work... I trust aluminum-plated pressed polycarbonate far more than I trust tape in terms of holding up. I am less sanguine about the _recordable_ CD/DVD media, but I could be wrong. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Audio mods
Ahhh...The days of Radio Shack and Tandy corp... I started out with a Commodore 64..With a tape deck. Seemed like quite the machine over the Vic20 that my friends hadLOL Was really cool to get the floppy drive and quit typing in the games in basic language. I have never been much at typing...Took me days to make some of the silliest games work...Typos sucked. Mike - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods Hi Curt - you wrote I've got 24TB thats, terrabytes Wow! TB's - that's too much to comprehend. I guess it won't be long that the home user will be able to buy TB storage. I started using computers back when we used punch cards and there was no such thing as a monitor - the data or program was input had to be re-run and a paper output printed to see results. Then we moved to offsite computer useage where we had a computer input clerk who typed the data into a onsite monitor which then ransmitted the data to a mainframe - we used the McDonald-Douglas mainframe which costs the project $15k-$20k per month. The day of PCs really saved a lot of money! Having a PC (remember the suitcase IBM PCs) on our desk was a major break-thru. Of course, back then we usually had only 256k memory to work with - back in the early 80s I bought a TRS80 - does that sound right? I mostly remember having to attach a cassette player to save any programs (very crude) I had written because there was *no* memory. Ahhh, the good old days... Things have changed -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods Hey Larry, In my classroom I've got 24TB thats, terrabytes. The system I train supports up to 192TB. Its amazing, when I bought my first computer in college it had a 40Mb harddrive which I upgraded to 640Mb and I thought I was hot stuff. -Curt Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:59:24 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Thanks Werner -- I'm discovering a huge world of different MP3's and iPod's - including some without *any* memory sticks* - gotta watch the amd read the descriptions carefully! I've learned that 1 or 2 GBs will be plently of storage for us - mostly Debbie and her books-on-tape which I have found takes very little space. I still find it amazing to recall when PCs began to arrive in our corp tech center - the better ones had 4mb's of HDs followed 6 months later or so by 8mb's and then 16mb which meant we were hot stuff. ;-) and eveyone knows how fast things went from there - doubling every 3-9 months - in speed and capacity. When I think back to 4mbs and the need too unload some programs to make room for others. We couldn't *comprehend* a Gigabytye then (still can't) and now I have 500 or more GBs in my desktop. Things have changed a lot - * - just a few days ago I didn;t know what a memory stick was! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers
If the crankshaft went as you put it, I assume you mean the bearings are going bad - or have gone bad. Because it the crank itself were bad - as in broken crank it wouldn't start and probably wouldn't even turn over. Typically, when main bearings get bad the oil pressure get lower and lower as the bearing clearance gets larger. When rod bearings get bad a knock is usually heard although this can be difficult with a diesel engine. Like Jim, I did a compression test on my 240D using a regular tester for gas engines - but the same would not work on my 300D because the GP holes were a size that my tester would not work in. Like you, I have no experience on prechambers - I had a machine shop recondition my cylinder head a few years ago and they took care of that stuff. But the compression test IMO is the 1st thing to do in any case - a dry test and a wet test will hopefully be done - it will tell you if there are any problems with the head/pistons/rings (with some interpretation) and allow you to focus on other things should the test show good pressure. Some FLAPS will rent or loan tools - AutoZone, AdvanceAuto, some NAPA's, etc -- some loan the tool with a deposit large enough to buy the tool - then, if you keep it for more than, say, 2 weeks, it becomes yours. Perhaps you can find a compression tester. Just make sure it can test as high as 350 ft #'s or so - even a older engine will usually have 1 or 2 cylinders still good enough to produce a lot of pressure. If, OTOH, the CT shows you have significant problems you will need to make decisions based on the possible cost of repairs and the value of the car. BTW, where are you located? Perhaps a list member is close enough to provide some assistance. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers I am trying to go through the different scenarios in my mind. If the crankshaft went, it should start if it cranks as easy as it does? I have no whatsoever experience with trouble shooting prechambers/injectors, what failure symptoms are and what to look for. I know from tales that they can make all kinds of ungodly noises. I am going to pull the most obvious culprit and report back. Thanks guys. On 3/14/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is the best way to check compression, i.e. at the glow plug hole? On the older 61X engines that's certainly easier. I think it's less obvious on the 60X. However, if you've now got bubbling around the injectors you're going to end up pulling them anyway, so you may wish to do it through the injector holes. My $17 Harbor Freight diesel compression gauge will go either way. I used it on that 240D I sold, and it was very easy to do. (Via GP.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for$178plusshipping
Gary wrote:I've got a bunch of really important stuff backed up on 8 inch floppies BTDT. Mine is on the smaller 5-1/4 floppies but a problem just the same. I still have a old 5-1/4 floppy drive in my computer drawer but I'd have to install it somehow - I don't think my desktop case has a slot that big. But I could probably do a temporary install somehow. But, Dude! I've never even *seen* a 8 floppie drive! ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for$178plusshipping The problem may not be the lifetime of the media, but the lifetime of the player! How many 8-track players are still out there? BTW, I've got a bunch of really important stuff backed up on 8 inch floppies... Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 3/14/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck, I still have cassette tapes I bought in the 80's and 8 tracks my mom bought in the 70's, oh, and a few old reeel to reel tapes that still play just fine. I think CD's will last much longer than that. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Audio mods
Actually you can get a terrabyte at home, get 2 500GB drives and boom, you're there. We made video editing hardware and software, I usually say we make the things that make TV and movies. 192TB is 666.66 DAYS (16,000 hours) of DV video which is what most news programming is made with. And yet even with all that space customers are screaming for more. One of the big TV networks in NYC that I've been to has 20,000 hours of storage right now (3 80TB systems) and is looking to up the 80TB systems to 192TB EACH... Of course they work in HD so thats actually only 9600 hours for them, still thats 400 days... It boggles the mind. When I did my last video project in college we were each given a 4GB drive to work from. Thats about 20 minutes total video, you learned to be very choosy about your shots as you worked. -Curt Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:24:31 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hi Curt - you wrote I've got 24TB thats, terrabytes Wow! TB's - that's too much to comprehend. I guess it won't be long that the home user will be able to buy TB storage. I started using computers back when we used punch cards and there was no such thing as a monitor - the data or program was input had to be re-run and a paper output printed to see results. Then we moved to offsite computer useage where we had a computer input clerk who typed the data into a onsite monitor which then ransmitted the data to a mainframe - we used the McDonald-Douglas mainframe which costs the project $15k-$20k per month. The day of PCs really saved a lot of money! Having a PC (remember the suitcase IBM PCs) on our desk was a major break-thru. Of course, back then we usually had only 256k memory to work with - back in the early 80s I bought a TRS80 - does that sound right? I mostly remember having to attach a cassette player to save any programs (very crude) I had written because there was *no* memory. Ahhh, the good old days... Things have changed -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 14 17:48:23 2007 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.184]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HRXaH-00061c-JW for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:48:23 + Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a4so311204nfc for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.59.1 with SMTP id m1mr3007365wak.1173894493205; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.113.6 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:48:13 -0500 From: Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for$178plusshipping X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:48:23 - Sounds like a B-grade horror flick... On 3/14/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I know of two. Mine and the one in my best friends 68 AMX..That one only plays a Steppenwolf tape. Eats anything else put into it.
Re: [MBZ] Audio mods
There is an article in the March issue of what was once MacAddict, now Maclife. Tells how to splice in a jack for your iPod On Mar 13, 2007, at 5:59 PM, LarryT wrote: Thanks Werner -- I'm discovering a huge world of different MP3's and iPod's - including some without *any* memory sticks* - gotta watch the amd read the descriptions carefully! I've learned that 1 or 2 GBs will be plently of storage for us - mostly Debbie and her books-on-tape which I have found takes very little space. I still find it amazing to recall when PCs began to arrive in our corp tech center - the better ones had 4mb's of HDs followed 6 months later or so by 8mb's and then 16mb which meant we were hot stuff. ;-) and eveyone knows how fast things went from there - doubling every 3-9 months - in speed and capacity. When I think back to 4mbs and the need too unload some programs to make room for others. We couldn't *comprehend* a Gigabytye then (still can't) and now I have 500 or more GBs in my desktop. Things have changed a lot - * - just a few days ago I didn;t know what a memory stick was! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods Larry - most of the large capacity MP3s (over 20 Gig) are mini-hard drives; small ones, typically 2-3 Gig are solid state memory. I've had no problem with the Phillips 30GB MP3 player, rough roads or sitting still. Werner - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Audio mods Hi Jim, When you say Walkman, I assume you're talking about a CD player? I tried that also and the skipping was so bad I couldn't enjoy the discs. I hope a iPod or MP3 player will be a lot more stable. Do you have any experience with either of those? This will be my 1st experience with an MP3 or iPod player.Actually I'm not positive about how they work - I assume they have a harddrive where music, data voice is stored? Is that close? Will a MP or iPod be more stable than a CD player? TIA - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] Restoration Questions
I rec'd a newsletter from Eastwood and it reminded me of the excellent technical section they have on their website. One I plan to try is their kit for restoring glass headlight lens' - http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=688itemType=CATEGORY Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
Re: [MBZ] September delivery
Looks like yet another plastic car from china On Mar 13, 2007, at 8:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://shows.autospies.com/gallery/pop.asp?galleryId=54imageId=40388 ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
Go for it! I suspect it will fit. I have not seen the front end of a 114 looking any larger than the 115s at the PnP. On Mar 14, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: So, nobody knows if a '70 114 hood will go on a '72 115? Hey, there's $23 at stake here! (And a big PITA.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
Can he use the grill from the 114 on the 114 hood in his 115? I mounted a '69 114 grill on Gump because I liked the metal better than the plastic. On Mar 14, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: The answer is NO, it will not. Let me rephrase that, the grille will not fit it. The hood will mount. It will require new washer nozzles and connectors as well. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery So, nobody knows if a '70 114 hood will go on a '72 115? Hey, there's $23 at stake here! (And a big PITA.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
That, he should be able to do. - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery Can he use the grill from the 114 on the 114 hood in his 115? I mounted a '69 114 grill on Gump because I liked the metal better than the plastic. On Mar 14, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: The answer is NO, it will not. Let me rephrase that, the grille will not fit it. The hood will mount. It will require new washer nozzles and connectors as well. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery So, nobody knows if a '70 114 hood will go on a '72 115? Hey, there's $23 at stake here! (And a big PITA.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] September delivery
I do like how the front hood wraps down over the front fenders. I think a lot of water and crud gets in the old design and promotes rust as the car ages. I think this new design will help with that, and isnt that kind of thinking what Mercedes use to be all about? As for the interior, it looks like junk! Did they sub the construction of the interior out to IKEA? I have against plastic, but you can make plastic look really good. Remember the plastic in VWs a decade ago? Looked great, and stayed that way for years. The trend seems to be toward plastic with a shine, which to my eye is junk. As for carbon fibre in a road car, don't get me started. :-) hee hee Zeb On 14/03/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like yet another plastic car from china On Mar 13, 2007, at 8:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://shows.autospies.com/gallery/pop.asp?galleryId=54imageId=40388 ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Carfax request please
Can Kaleb or somebody with an open Carfax account run this VIN? WBAHE6328RGF29561 Should be a '94 BMW 540i. Thanks! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] Urea not yet
Don - you're correct, the Bluetec M-B CDI Diesels do indeed use Urea injection to meet the Euro Bin5 standards Well, strictly speaking, urea injection won't be here until sometime in 2008. And the tradename Bluetec is not being used anywhere except north America by MB. Elsewhere the old term CDI is still on the cars. RLE ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] Urea not yet
Au contraire - the term Bluetec is indeed being used widely in Germany (and perhaps in the EU?), and they are pushing urea injection in their Actos truck line, too. You are correct that the USA Bluetec with urea injection are 2008 models, and that the current CDI M-Bs in the USA do not use urea. And outside of the USA, D-C has been selling CDI engines in almost every model except Maybach! for several years now. Werner - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Urea not yet Don - you're correct, the Bluetec M-B CDI Diesels do indeed use Urea injection to meet the Euro Bin5 standards Well, strictly speaking, urea injection won't be here until sometime in 2008. And the tradename Bluetec is not being used anywhere except north America by MB. Elsewhere the old term CDI is still on the cars. RLE
Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for $178 plusshipping
Hi Craig, Crutchfield was the 1st place I went last year when I bought this car. Basically the box in the dash is a cassette player with some wires. The tuner and power amp are in the trunk as seperate boxes near the passenger side hinge. The speaker wires go from the dash to the amp to the speakers - same for the antenna leads. If I replace the box in the dash I'll have to run speaker wires from the amp to the dash - and then a lead from the antenna to the new dash unit. I used to jump at running new wires from one end of a car to the other - not anymore. ;-) With maturity comes restraint. I had hoped there was an adapter so I could attach a new stereo to the cables behind the dash but have been unable to locate any adapter that comes close. Evidently this is an optional *system* - lucky me. But it *does* sound great and my only complaint is the lack of a cd changer. Now, if there were some smart person (with the ability to make adapters) could make one to attach a new stereo to the old amp tuner. thanks -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for $178 plusshipping On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:18:23 -0400 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I considered replacing my head unit, tuner and amp but would need to run new speaker wires and a new antenna wire. Which I really want to avoid. Why would you need to do that? I bought a new radio from Crutchfield (http://www.crutchfield.com) and it came with all the necessary adapters to use the factory wiring. The folks at Crutchfield want your installation to be a success -- you can call them pre-purchase and ask questions; you can call them post sale and ask questions, too. Call them at (888) 955-6000, ask them your questions, and let us know what they say. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers
I have two W126s with OM617s that my wife is after me to get rid of. I am located in Raleigh NC. Just in case you need an engine. One of the cars is a 1985 300SD with around 300k miles, runs and drives but needs front end rebuilt (tie rods etc). Also the body is a bit rough as it does have 300k miles. The other one is a 1984 500SEL which I put a OM617 in, the engine runs great, but the body is rusted. The engine came from a 1982 300D that was in worse shape. I have been meaning to get some pictures of the two beasts, will let you guys know when I get some up. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers Worst case it ingested water and it's toast (bent rods), but in that case the response would have been pretty fast and probably wouldn't have started. Lots of blue smoke out the back before it died? Don't know -- time to pull the injectors and do a compression test. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEM PROBLEMS SOLVED IN 300D M.B. for $178 plusshipping
On 3/14/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Craig, Crutchfield was the 1st place I went last year when I bought this car. Basically the box in the dash is a cassette player with some wires. The tuner and power amp are in the trunk as seperate boxes near the passenger side hinge. The speaker wires go from the dash to the amp to the speakers - same for the antenna leads. If I replace the box in the dash I'll have to run speaker wires from the amp to the dash - and then a lead from the antenna to the new dash unit. I used to jump at running new wires from one end of a car to the other - not anymore. ;-) With maturity comes restraint. Why not just reuse the existing wiring? As long as it's a big enough gauge to carry the load, it should work just fine, right? I plan to do this in my car to install a powered subwoofer in the trunk. The previous owner had one of those old-style in-car cell phones with a box in the trunk and the handset in the center console, and the installers ran a nice fat shielded multiconductor cable to connect the two, under the carpets and the back seat. Cut both ends, solder on a couple of RCA plugs, tap into antenna power in the trunk for the sub's power supply, and there I am. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
[MBZ] Opinion pls! on What are the Odds post
Werner, Wanted your opinion on my reply about What are the odds? thread on the MBZ list? Since I used your name in the text! Let me know and I'll post it.. Thanks, Chuck ~~~ Werner is right on target. I urge every parent of a young driver to write or email AutoWeek and request a copy of the article Failing Our Children that reports the state of Driver Education in the US. It appeared in the September 4, 2006 issue. A statistic from that issue that is very scary - Since the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, more than 2600 troops have died in combat and war-related incidents. The count is well-known and updated regularly in news reports. Did you know during the same 41 month period, more than 22,000 teenagers, ages 15-19, have died in traffic accidents on U.S. roads? My comment: Why is there no outcry to correct this slaughter. Driving schools, in or out of public schools, turn out uneducated and untrained drivers who basically know how to drive around the block and park a car, but nothing about stopping distance, skid control, following distance, etc.. Each parent needs to be tough about this and not just give in to their child's quest for freedom. The Mercedes-Benz Club of America (Werner is on the committee) is working to build a Driver Education Program in conjunction with BMWCCA's current program with assistance of several insurance companies. The resources required are enormous, considering the need for adequate driving instruction space and certified instructors, not to mention the need for changes to related state laws. Tens of thousands more teens appear on the roads every year. Please get the AutoWeek issue, for your children's sake and your desire to keep them safe. Thanks for listing! Be safe, Chuck Phoenix AZ
Re: [MBZ] what are your odds?
Well, I obviously already sent it to the MBZ list Mea culpa! So, opinions solicited from all about how to improve driver education! Be careful, Chuck Phoenix AZ
Re: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on What are the Odds post
Chuck - the fact that practically no one felt that a response was needed says one of two things - either the problem is too big for any group to do anything about, or that they don't really care and accept it as a necessary fact of life. I hope it is the first case, as the annual death toll on our roads can be markedly reduced with some elementary training. The 3000 lives lost on 9/11 are less than 10% of what we lose every year in the USA in highway accidents, yet only that one tragedy gets any attention. The big job is to get enough groups to work as a team to set up a program that will work! And that takes volunteers, industry backing, time, space and places to do the training, and governmental support. What we would like to see is a cooperative effort that builds on what BMW-CCA and other car clubs have begun, school systems, and the insurance industry. It would be a win-win situation for all, and if it saves a few teenagers lives every year, well worth the time and money spent. Werner - Original Message - From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] Opinion pls! on What are the Odds post Werner, Wanted your opinion on my reply about What are the odds? thread on the MBZ list? Since I used your name in the text! Let me know and I'll post it.. Thanks, Chuck ~~~ Werner is right on target. I urge every parent of a young driver to write or email AutoWeek and request a copy of the article Failing Our Children that reports the state of Driver Education in the US. It appeared in the September 4, 2006 issue. A statistic from that issue that is very scary - Since the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, more than 2600 troops have died in combat and war-related incidents. The count is well-known and updated regularly in news reports. Did you know during the same 41 month period, more than 22,000 teenagers, ages 15-19, have died in traffic accidents on U.S. roads? My comment: Why is there no outcry to correct this slaughter. Driving schools, in or out of public schools, turn out uneducated and untrained drivers who basically know how to drive around the block and park a car, but nothing about stopping distance, skid control, following distance, etc.. Each parent needs to be tough about this and not just give in to their child's quest for freedom. The Mercedes-Benz Club of America (Werner is on the committee) is working to build a Driver Education Program in conjunction with BMWCCA's current program with assistance of several insurance companies. The resources required are enormous, considering the need for adequate driving instruction space and certified instructors, not to mention the need for changes to related state laws. Tens of thousands more teens appear on the roads every year. Please get the AutoWeek issue, for your children's sake and your desire to keep them safe. Thanks for listing! Be safe, Chuck Phoenix AZ
Re: [MBZ] CDI vs Bluetec
Au contraire - the term Bluetec is indeed being used widely in Germany (and perhaps in the EU?), and they are pushing urea injection in their Actos truck line, too. I did not mention the trucks because I didn't feel it relevant to the discussion and I am aware of the truck usage. You are correct that the USA Bluetec with urea injection are 2008 models, and that the current CDI M-Bs in the USA do not use urea. And outside of the USA, D-C has been selling CDI engines in almost every model except Maybach! for several years now. The soon-to-be-introduced here C-Class is called a 2008 model but the diesel versions sold everywhere but North America (even the V-6) are labeled CDI. I'm guessing that when the W211 Bluetec gets urea injection next year it's likely that the C can be equipped with the same engine. It looks like the direct injection gas engines (some with turbos) will be introduced at the same time. CDI is of course a generic term now, used by all of the Euro car builders these days. BTW, the W211 E-Class Bluetec is a 2007. The all-new 2009 W212 shows up in the fall of 2008. My copy of Auto Motor und Sport showed up today and in the article covering the Geneva auto show they refer to the MB diesel models as Bluetecs even though the cars are not labeled as such. I had the recent opportunity to drive my friend AC's '07 E320 Bluetec and was amazed at the smooth silent operation. So unlike my old '78 300D's rock-crush er five-cylinder. The trans was in the 2nd gear start mode, unknown to me or him, and the acceleration up a steep hill from a stop was an eye-opener. If this engine was offered in the '08 C-Class, even at the premium price, I might consider it. Right now all we know is that two V-6s will be offered, 3.0 and 3.5. RLE ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
[MBZ] OM 617 badly sick (was 126 pre chambers)
Today I went to do some more investigating: Excessive blow-by is not evident. The turbo is slightly oily, but the shaft is moving a little in radial direction. The motor started right up. A huge, scary clunk at first that turned into a steady, loud hammering. Oil pressure first pegged and went to 2.5 bar at a steady 800 RPM idle. When operating temp reached 85 C (after ~ 5 min.) pressure dropped to slightly above 1 with a few short excursions to below 1 bar. Loosening the injector lines resulted in a noticeable reduction of knock intensity but was equal for each cylinder. Using a stethoscope, the highest intensity of the knock is apparent near the front crank seal and at the Vac.pump housing. Lots of blue smoke at first that never really cleared. Motor ran for at least 20 minutes until turned off. Questions: Can injectors/prechambers be ruled out as major cause? Does oil pressure behavior indicate crank bearing failure? Does most noise coming from front crank seal indicate balancer failure? Do I have a conglomeration of failing parts (Turbo seal = blue smoke, etc.) My conclusion so far: 90% bottom end problem. But what? On 3/14/07, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two W126s with OM617s that my wife is after me to get rid of. I am located in Raleigh NC. Just in case you need an engine. One of the cars is a 1985 300SD with around 300k miles, runs and drives but needs front end rebuilt (tie rods etc). Also the body is a bit rough as it does have 300k miles. The other one is a 1984 500SEL which I put a OM617 in, the engine runs great, but the body is rusted. The engine came from a 1982 300D that was in worse shape. I have been meaning to get some pictures of the two beasts, will let you guys know when I get some up. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers Worst case it ingested water and it's toast (bent rods), but in that case the response would have been pretty fast and probably wouldn't have started. Lots of blue smoke out the back before it died? Don't know -- time to pull the injectors and do a compression test. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
[MBZ] Antenna semi-success
For anyone who may have read my previous post regarding the stuck two center sections of the antenna on my '84 300D, I had some success by squirting Kano Kroil in the antenna shaft and allowing it to sit over night upside down and, with some gentle persuasion, I was able to free the two stuck center sections. With the plastic ribbon extracted, I worked things a bit with some Kroil, cleaned and reassembled everything but the antenna now does not extend or retract. I can hear a slight click sound when I actiavte the antenna switch, so power is getting there apparently and, since the plug residing on top of the power antenna module is keyed, I didn't do something stupid an insert it incorrectly. Any clues? TIA. G. M. Brown Rochester, NY
Re: [MBZ] '08 C-Class
Looks like yet another plastic car from china Thank you. I have won the bet I made with myself, thanks to your oh-so-predictable respone. RLE ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
[MBZ] Lots - O - Bio In Tucson, Almost None Still in PHX
Took a trip down to Tucson from Saturday to this morning. I drove the 300D, wifey followed in the Acura (she was following in the Acura just workin' on her fitness..). Remembered there are four places that sell bio. I burned two tankfulls (B-99) through in four day. Still amazed how much quieter she runs and how much less she smokes when using bio. Then, I remembered there is only ONE SINGLE PUMP of bio in all of Phoenix/Mesa/Tempe. Phoenix is dumb. Tucson isn't. And, furthermore, it's too hot already. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 168K '87 Acura Legend 183K Goodyear, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 14 23:00:55 2007 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.246]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HRcSl-0007vT-4u for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:00:55 + Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b6so412972ana for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.143.1 with SMTP id q1mr2692128and.1173913247352; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.167.15 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:00:47 -0500 From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM 617 badly sick (was 126 pre chambers) X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:00:55 - One other observation: the frequency of the knock is as close as I can tell 1/2 the rpm i.e. the result of the powersroke of one of the cylinders. On 3/14/07, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I went to do some more investigating: Excessive blow-by is not evident. The turbo is slightly oily, but the shaft is moving a little in radial direction. The motor started right up. A huge, scary clunk at first that turned into a steady, loud hammering. Oil pressure first pegged and went to 2.5 bar at a steady 800 RPM idle. When operating temp reached 85 C (after ~ 5 min.) pressure dropped to slightly above 1 with a few short excursions to below 1 bar. Loosening the injector lines resulted in a noticeable reduction of knock intensity but was equal for each cylinder. Using a stethoscope, the highest intensity of the knock is apparent near the front crank seal and at the Vac.pump housing. Lots of blue smoke at first that never really cleared. Motor ran for at least 20 minutes until turned off. Questions: Can injectors/prechambers be ruled out as major cause? Does oil pressure behavior indicate crank bearing failure? Does most noise coming from front crank seal indicate balancer failure? Do I have a conglomeration of failing parts (Turbo seal = blue smoke, etc.) My conclusion so far: 90% bottom end problem. But what? On 3/14/07, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two W126s with OM617s that my wife is after me to get rid of. I am located in Raleigh NC. Just in case you need an engine. One of the cars is a 1985 300SD with around 300k miles, runs and drives but needs front end rebuilt (tie rods etc). Also the body is a bit rough as it does have 300k miles. The other one is a 1984 500SEL which I put a OM617 in, the engine runs great, but the body is rusted. The engine came from a 1982 300D that was in worse shape. I have been meaning to get some pictures of the two beasts, will let you guys know when I get some up. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers Worst case it ingested water and it's toast (bent rods), but in that case the response would have been pretty fast and probably wouldn't have started. Lots of blue smoke out the back before it died? Don't know -- time to pull the injectors and do a compression test. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email
