Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Acura's
Rubber hoses, muh man. Keep a steady supply of rubber hoses within reach at all times. Those girl scouts and geezer Fuller Brush guys are surprisingly persistent, and they bite, too. Nasty vermin. On 4/10/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: careful - if you cut them, they won't take blood products, die, and their estate will try to nail you.
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW 300 series
I know zippo about the later models, but the E30 was a great chassis. Easy to work on and fairly robust. Just about the easiest valve adjustments you could imagine, for a mechanical setup. Super cars, IMNSHO. Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Acura's
OK - the mini-van isn't quite as bad as an SUV, so maybe I'm off the hook? Anyway, after 75% of the kids left home, I tried to tell my wife that she didn't need it anymore - that I needed a pickup instead. She didn't buy that argument - so I used her mini-van to haul an M117 engine home from MN, trade a 115 hood for a 123 hood with Kaleb, and other hauling jobs. On 4/10/07, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly why is it handy to have an SUV? On 4/10/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is handy to have an SUV. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW 300 series
I don't consider BMW's to be on the dark side - Snook's Acura is though I've owned two BMW bikes - a '62 R69S and a '84 R100. Great bikes, expensive parts. Don't know anything about the cars - guess I shouldn't be taking up the bandwidth. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] OT: 12v lighting
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:19:44 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much power am I really wasting at the resistor or LM317? I want to come in under 5w, how much do I plan for at the resistor? Given that you aim to run the LED's at a specified current, you can get awfully close just by using Ohm's law, in this case P-I^2R. For the LM317, also you lose 1.5I in it as well. Actually, he wants P=IE, where I is the current drawn by the LED and E is the voltage across the LED (for power dissipated in the LED) or the voltage across the LM317 (for the power dissipated in the LM317). The internal bias current of the LM317 will be insignificant compared with the current of the LED. That said, the LM317 is performing like an electronic resistor. If you have 1 amp flowing though the LED and 3 volts across it, the power dissipated in the LED will be 3 watts. If you're running it from 12 volts, the voltage across the LM317 or resistor will be 9 volts. The 1 amp current will cause it to dissipate 9 watts. The total power draw from the battery will be 12 watts, implying the efficiency to light the LED is 3/12 = 25% (rather low). There are a lot of switchmode regulators used to light up strings of LEDs. I've seen several advertisements at http://www.electronicproducts.com/, but don't recall any specifically at the moment. Coincidentally, their featured product today is, 85-lumen LED-based MR16 lamp replaces incandescents http://www.electronicproducts.com/ShowPage.asp?SECTION=PRIMID=FileName=hlap01.jun2007.html It has a 4 watt emitter and takes 12 volts AC/DC at 0.7 amps (8.4 watts, which implies an efficiency of 48%). Craig
[MBZ] 240D Knocking
Hello Everyone, My trusty 83 240D is making crackling knocking noises when I first start it up in the morning or when it has had a chance to cool off for a while. The sound is like the spark-knock sound that a gasoline engine can make. When the engine warms up the sound goes away. Anyone know what is causing this? Is it damaging my engine? Thanks, John Ingram 83 240D 243K Baltimore
Re: [MBZ] Desert Crack, VW PU
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:37:08 -0700 Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lookie! I just saved $500 by checking CL! http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/309335428.html I just saved $3000 by hitting the delete key. :-) Craig
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Acura's
You know a friend of mine upgraded his wife to a 2003 C320 wagon, because (a) it was nicer than *any* new car they looked at, and they looked at everything over a two week period. (b) she wanted something a bit more sporty than the mini-van she had the last 5 years. (c) he later found it was quite a rocket, very pleased. On Apr 10, 2007, at 7:31 PM, OK Don wrote: OK - the mini-van isn't quite as bad as an SUV, so maybe I'm off the hook? Anyway, after 75% of the kids left home, I tried to tell my wife that she didn't need it anymore - that I needed a pickup instead. She didn't buy that argument - so I used her mini-van to haul an M117 engine home from MN, trade a 115 hood for a 123 hood with Kaleb, and other hauling jobs. John 1983 300TDt 368k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 180k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] Desert Crack, VW PU
No, I didn't change the topic. Sue/ban me. Hey you nuke experts in the desert: is it as safe as tv is now saying that it is? Where are you going to put the stuff after it can't be used anymore? Can you guarantee no melt-downs? Should I tear up my old Greenpeace card? No being smart-ass, I really am curious as to how much technology has come since I was saving whales in the '70s and '80s. On 4/10/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:37:08 -0700 Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lookie! I just saved $500 by checking CL! http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/309335428.html I just saved $3000 by hitting the delete key. :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don The Crazy Coastie
Re: [MBZ] 240D Knocking
John: You need a Diesel Purge treatment. I experience the same stuff every fall, after a winter of driving around cold. Call Rusty. Don '77 240D On 4/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, My trusty 83 240D is making crackling knocking noises when I first start it up in the morning or when it has had a chance to cool off for a while. The sound is like the spark-knock sound that a gasoline engine can make. When the engine warms up the sound goes away. Anyone know what is causing this? Is it damaging my engine? Thanks, John Ingram 83 240D 243K Baltimore ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don The Crazy Coastie
Re: [MBZ] Problems Bleeding Clutch : Thanks
A couple of You that replied mentioned bleeding the clutch 'as it says in the manual' - none of the CD-based manuals that I have for the W201 and W124 chassis have any pages dealing with a manual clutch - bleeding, etc. Hmm, it's right there as 25.1 230/1 in my manual. My paper 114/115 manual! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Acura's
On that point, it'll BARELY bump start the tractor. To pull start a Farmall Super M farm tractor we really should have a full size pickup... Use a higher gear on the tractor. I believe we always pull-started our Farmall 200 in third. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 240D Knocking
John, I have the same car and have been hearing the very same noises you describe upon cold startup. Normally I am alarmed by anything unusual with my automobiles, but I have heard it said that these engines percolate and crack and pop when started cold. BUT: Bear in mind that I don't know what I'm talking about - so am I wrong, list, for not being alarmed? - should I be worried by that pinging noise? I see LT Don says diesel purge is the answer, though he says autumn follows winter. ;) Also, when running a diesel purge treatment, should one be equipped with some fuel filters for when the gunk gets moved up the lines? And if gunk plugs up the filters, will the engine quit cold and not start, or will there be a warning period of poor running? How does the slogan go? I have questions, you have answers? Brian 83 240D On 4/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, My trusty 83 240D is making crackling knocking noises when I first start it up in the morning or when it has had a chance to cool off for a while. The sound is like the spark-knock sound that a gasoline engine can make. When the engine warms up the sound goes away. Anyone know what is causing this? Is it damaging my engine? Thanks, John Ingram 83 240D 243K Baltimore ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Knocking
To add: that first Diesel Purge treatment is a real experience. Before your very ears, the car goes from sounding like an out-of-balance washer in spin cycle to sounding like a Singer sewing machine. Two cans, not one, though. Ah, so sweet. D. On 4/10/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, I have the same car and have been hearing the very same noises you describe upon cold startup. Normally I am alarmed by anything unusual with my automobiles, but I have heard it said that these engines percolate and crack and pop when started cold. BUT: Bear in mind that I don't know what I'm talking about - so am I wrong, list, for not being alarmed? - should I be worried by that pinging noise? I see LT Don says diesel purge is the answer, though he says autumn follows winter. ;) Also, when running a diesel purge treatment, should one be equipped with some fuel filters for when the gunk gets moved up the lines? And if gunk plugs up the filters, will the engine quit cold and not start, or will there be a warning period of poor running? How does the slogan go? I have questions, you have answers? Brian 83 240D On 4/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, My trusty 83 240D is making crackling knocking noises when I first start it up in the morning or when it has had a chance to cool off for a while. The sound is like the spark-knock sound that a gasoline engine can make. When the engine warms up the sound goes away. Anyone know what is causing this? Is it damaging my engine? Thanks, John Ingram 83 240D 243K Baltimore ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don The Crazy Coastie
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Acura's
I think the original question was about the Acura. My '89 Integra was a DAMN'd fine car. I'd buy an Integra sight-unseen if only on my own experience with the company and the cars' reputations. My ex family (ex and two kids) drive only Honda, and have had no disappointments. Runs the gambit from the ex's Accord to the youngest kid's Honda Civic Hybrid. On 4/10/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On that point, it'll BARELY bump start the tractor. To pull start a Farmall Super M farm tractor we really should have a full size pickup... Use a higher gear on the tractor. I believe we always pull-started our Farmall 200 in third. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don The Crazy Coastie
Re: [MBZ] 240D Knocking
That stuff is nectar of the diesel gods You will not believe the difference, John. Bob R - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Knocking To add: that first Diesel Purge treatment is a real experience. Before your very ears, the car goes from sounding like an out-of-balance washer in spin cycle to sounding like a Singer sewing machine. Two cans, not one, though. Ah, so sweet. D. On 4/10/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, I have the same car and have been hearing the very same noises you describe upon cold startup. Normally I am alarmed by anything unusual with my automobiles, but I have heard it said that these engines percolate and crack and pop when started cold. BUT: Bear in mind that I don't know what I'm talking about - so am I wrong, list, for not being alarmed? - should I be worried by that pinging noise? I see LT Don says diesel purge is the answer, though he says autumn follows winter. ;) Also, when running a diesel purge treatment, should one be equipped with some fuel filters for when the gunk gets moved up the lines? And if gunk plugs up the filters, will the engine quit cold and not start, or will there be a warning period of poor running? How does the slogan go? I have questions, you have answers? Brian 83 240D On 4/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, My trusty 83 240D is making crackling knocking noises when I first start it up in the morning or when it has had a chance to cool off for a while. The sound is like the spark-knock sound that a gasoline engine can make. When the engine warms up the sound goes away. Anyone know what is causing this? Is it damaging my engine? Thanks, John Ingram 83 240D 243K Baltimore ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don The Crazy Coastie ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Desert Crack, VW PU
It's wicked safe. There many redundant safety systems, post TMI (Three Mile Island). We are constantly trained within an inch of our lives. I stand a better chance of winning the lottery while being flanked by two Victoria Secret models who are being struck by lightining while shaking hands with Jesus Christ than the chance of a melt down. Spent fuel is being stored on site. If it weren't safe, Id be outta there. Bob R - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Desert Crack, VW PU No, I didn't change the topic. Sue/ban me. Hey you nuke experts in the desert: is it as safe as tv is now saying that it is? Where are you going to put the stuff after it can't be used anymore? Can you guarantee no melt-downs? Should I tear up my old Greenpeace card? No being smart-ass, I really am curious as to how much technology has come since I was saving whales in the '70s and '80s. On 4/10/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:37:08 -0700 Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lookie! I just saved $500 by checking CL! http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/309335428.html I just saved $3000 by hitting the delete key. :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don The Crazy Coastie ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Desert Crack, VW PU
Bob Rentfro wrote: It's wicked safe. There many redundant safety systems, post TMI (Three Mile Island). I thought that TMI proved that the safeguards of the time worked? And Chernobyl proved that US style safeguards were necessary?
Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke
At the time of TMI, the safety systems of the time did work. As you can imagine, safety systems have been improved upon over time. At Chernobyl, the safety systems they had would have been adequate if it wan't for idiot operators violating their own operating procedures. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Desert Crack, VW PU Bob Rentfro wrote: It's wicked safe. There many redundant safety systems, post TMI (Three Mile Island). I thought that TMI proved that the safeguards of the time worked? And Chernobyl proved that US style safeguards were necessary? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke
Bob's correct. I have the article out of Physics Review journal somewhere but as I recall some idiot researcher caused the failure. This guy was tasked to figure out how long the turbines would produce power in case of a failure where the reactor went offline. He was most likely meant to find the answer by theoretical means and calculation but this bozo decided to use a practical test instead. First he cut back the steam flow to the turbines so they would slow down. To do that he had to override a safety system. The system fought back and tried to deliver rated power and turbine speed. After that the system tried a few more times to shut itself down but this guy ordered the operators to silence and override one safety system after another until he had set into motion an uncontrollable overtemp situation. The operators complained about his actions and begged him to stop, but you didn't question authority in the USSR in those days. By this time anyway it was way too late to recover from his meddling and since it was an older graphite core type reactor, that can't take as much abuse as a more modern reactor, it went into a melt down or China Syndrome type scenario. The resulting smoke cloud laced with and raining radioactive debris caused the mass spread of radioactive material as far as the smoke would spread. It just shows that you can design most any safety device with amazing complexity, but stupidity shows no bounds. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Rentfro Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke At the time of TMI, the safety systems of the time did work. As you can imagine, safety systems have been improved upon over time. At Chernobyl, the safety systems they had would have been adequate if it wan't for idiot operators violating their own operating procedures. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Desert Crack, VW PU Bob Rentfro wrote: It's wicked safe. There many redundant safety systems, post TMI (Three Mile Island). I thought that TMI proved that the safeguards of the time worked? And Chernobyl proved that US style safeguards were necessary?
Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke
I'm more familiar with TNO than that Russian thing ;-) but at TMI ithere was a whole host of things that contributed to the problem. People were the biggest problem. It happend in the early AM - around 4 IIRC and the operators were confused by the numerous alarms that started to ring, buzz, beep and squawk.Sp mcu started happening the operators were overwhelmed by the flashing lights and the emergency procedure manual which was totally inadequate, In the end they thought they had solved the problem when all they did was stop the noises while the pumps that could deliver much needed cooling water remained shutdown.. Also, the firewater system was inadequate - piping too small and supports iadequate tosupport the piping. We ended up doing 1000s of TMI Mods which was in part adding huge supports/foundations to the fire protection piping. Picture a 2 pipe resting on a piece of concrete the size of a office desk. We built many of such foundations/supports. Part of theproblem of installing these supports was the need to tie into the existing concrete - we needed to drill into the concrete with its large diameter rebar which tended to eat diamond tipped drill bits like they were made of peanut butter. Anyway - plenty of mistakes - mostly caused by people. The design was pretty good - it just wasn't prepared for the ingenuity of fools who found ways to bypass safety features. If it hadn't (TMI) happened, we might be enjoying safe, economical electricty and not having a moritorium on building new nukes. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke At the time of TMI, the safety systems of the time did work. As you can imagine, safety systems have been improved upon over time. At Chernobyl, the safety systems they had would have been adequate if it wan't for idiot operators violating their own operating procedures. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Desert Crack, VW PU Bob Rentfro wrote: It's wicked safe. There many redundant safety systems, post TMI (Three Mile Island). I thought that TMI proved that the safeguards of the time worked? And Chernobyl proved that US style safeguards were necessary? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/754 - Release Date: 4/9/2007 10:59 PM
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW 300 series
I owned a rare BMW R25 (sic), which was silver and made for export to Switzerland, or so I was sold. Purchased it for $250 in the late summer '66 and sold it for $290 in June of '67. I remember taking it to the shop for a new igniaiton switch. The bill came to $6.00. On 4/10/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't consider BMW's to be on the dark side - Snook's Acura is though I've owned two BMW bikes - a '62 R69S and a '84 R100. Great bikes, expensive parts. Don't know anything about the cars - guess I shouldn't be taking up the bandwidth. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Knocking
I just changed the fuel filters in both cars. Should I wait a few K miles until it's time to replace them, or go ahead with the Diesel Purge now and replace the filters later? 1985 300CD 1983 300TD On 4/10/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That stuff is nectar of the diesel gods You will not believe the difference, John. Bob R - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Knocking To add: that first Diesel Purge treatment is a real experience. Before your very ears, the car goes from sounding like an out-of-balance washer in spin cycle to sounding like a Singer sewing machine. Two cans, not one, though. Ah, so sweet. D. On 4/10/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, I have the same car and have been hearing the very same noises you describe upon cold startup. Normally I am alarmed by anything unusual with my automobiles, but I have heard it said that these engines percolate and crack and pop when started cold. BUT: Bear in mind that I don't know what I'm talking about - so am I wrong, list, for not being alarmed? - should I be worried by that pinging noise? I see LT Don says diesel purge is the answer, though he says autumn follows winter. ;) Also, when running a diesel purge treatment, should one be equipped with some fuel filters for when the gunk gets moved up the lines? And if gunk plugs up the filters, will the engine quit cold and not start, or will there be a warning period of poor running? How does the slogan go? I have questions, you have answers? Brian 83 240D On 4/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, My trusty 83 240D is making crackling knocking noises when I first start it up in the morning or when it has had a chance to cool off for a while. The sound is like the spark-knock sound that a gasoline engine can make. When the engine warms up the sound goes away. Anyone know what is causing this? Is it damaging my engine? Thanks, John Ingram 83 240D 243K Baltimore ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don The Crazy Coastie ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke
Whoa, Larry. Nuclear power was on its way out even before TMI. On 4/11/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm more familiar with TNO than that Russian thing ;-) but at TMI ithere was a whole host of things that contributed to the problem. People were the biggest problem. It happend in the early AM - around 4 IIRC and the operators were confused by the numerous alarms that started to ring, buzz, beep and squawk.Sp mcu started happening the operators were overwhelmed by the flashing lights and the emergency procedure manual which was totally inadequate, In the end they thought they had solved the problem when all they did was stop the noises while the pumps that could deliver much needed cooling water remained shutdown.. Also, the firewater system was inadequate - piping too small and supports iadequate tosupport the piping. We ended up doing 1000s of TMI Mods which was in part adding huge supports/foundations to the fire protection piping. Picture a 2 pipe resting on a piece of concrete the size of a office desk. We built many of such foundations/supports. Part of theproblem of installing these supports was the need to tie into the existing concrete - we needed to drill into the concrete with its large diameter rebar which tended to eat diamond tipped drill bits like they were made of peanut butter. Anyway - plenty of mistakes - mostly caused by people. The design was pretty good - it just wasn't prepared for the ingenuity of fools who found ways to bypass safety features. If it hadn't (TMI) happened, we might be enjoying safe, economical electricty and not having a moritorium on building new nukes. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke At the time of TMI, the safety systems of the time did work. As you can imagine, safety systems have been improved upon over time. At Chernobyl, the safety systems they had would have been adequate if it wan't for idiot operators violating their own operating procedures. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Desert Crack, VW PU Bob Rentfro wrote: It's wicked safe. There many redundant safety systems, post TMI (Three Mile Island). I thought that TMI proved that the safeguards of the time worked? And Chernobyl proved that US style safeguards were necessary? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/754 - Release Date: 4/9/2007 10:59 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Desert Crack, VW PU
There is still no workable solution in sight for waste disposal and decommissioning. By workable I mean politically practicable. On 4/11/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Rentfro wrote: It's wicked safe. There many redundant safety systems, post TMI (Three Mile Island). I thought that TMI proved that the safeguards of the time worked? And Chernobyl proved that US style safeguards were necessary? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Knocking
Go ahead and use the Purge. I've never had to change filters after a treatment. On 4/11/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just changed the fuel filters in both cars. Should I wait a few K miles until it's time to replace them, or go ahead with the Diesel Purge now and replace the filters later? 1985 300CD 1983 300TD On 4/10/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That stuff is nectar of the diesel gods You will not believe the difference, John. Bob R - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Knocking To add: that first Diesel Purge treatment is a real experience. Before your very ears, the car goes from sounding like an out-of-balance washer in spin cycle to sounding like a Singer sewing machine. Two cans, not one, though. Ah, so sweet. D. On 4/10/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, I have the same car and have been hearing the very same noises you describe upon cold startup. Normally I am alarmed by anything unusual with my automobiles, but I have heard it said that these engines percolate and crack and pop when started cold. BUT: Bear in mind that I don't know what I'm talking about - so am I wrong, list, for not being alarmed? - should I be worried by that pinging noise? I see LT Don says diesel purge is the answer, though he says autumn follows winter. ;) Also, when running a diesel purge treatment, should one be equipped with some fuel filters for when the gunk gets moved up the lines? And if gunk plugs up the filters, will the engine quit cold and not start, or will there be a warning period of poor running? How does the slogan go? I have questions, you have answers? Brian 83 240D On 4/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, My trusty 83 240D is making crackling knocking noises when I first start it up in the morning or when it has had a chance to cool off for a while. The sound is like the spark-knock sound that a gasoline engine can make. When the engine warms up the sound goes away. Anyone know what is causing this? Is it damaging my engine? Thanks, John Ingram 83 240D 243K Baltimore ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don The Crazy Coastie ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don The Crazy Coastie
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Acura's
With a mid size pickup? Maybe if it was on pavement but I'm always stuck doing this on grass... The trick is to get moving pretty good (maybe 5mph) before EASING the clutch out on the tractor. With a full size pickup its easy... I should try it this year with a load of firewood in the Dakota... Oh and reminding the wife to EASE the truck into the load and not just take off. She's snapped more tow straps that way... -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:26:23 -0700 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Acura's To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On that point, it'll BARELY bump start the tractor. To pull start a Farmall Super M farm tractor we really should have a full size pickup... Use a higher gear on the tractor. I believe we always pull-started our Farmall 200 in third. -- Jim - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 11 13:21:20 2007 Received: from bee.hiwaay.net ([216.180.54.11]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HbclD-0004Dr-SA for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:21:20 + Received: from tomrmkj2yanjy9 ([216.180.87.249]) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3BDLCHZ1477378 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:21:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:22:50 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acd8Ozi6ve1e4bcOTxSvFFg4P21oxgAAMHbw In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Knocking X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:21:20 - I've used purge not had to change the filters and I've used purge had to change the filters. It all depends on what's inside your tank. Regardless, it's always wise to keep a set of filters the tools needed to change them in the trunk. This has saved me twice on the road, once when I picked up some water and once when I picked up some bad fuel. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LT Don Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Knocking Go ahead and use the Purge. I've never had to change filters after a treatment. On 4/11/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just changed the fuel filters in both cars. Should I wait a few K miles until it's time to replace them, or go ahead with the Diesel Purge now and replace the filters later? 1985 300CD 1983 300TD On 4/10/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That stuff is nectar of the diesel gods You will not believe the difference, John. Bob R - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Knocking To add: that first Diesel Purge treatment is a real experience. Before your very ears, the car goes from sounding like an out-of-balance washer in spin cycle to sounding like a Singer sewing machine. Two cans, not one, though. Ah, so sweet. D. On 4/10/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, I have the same car and have been hearing the very same noises you describe upon cold startup. Normally I am alarmed by anything unusual with my automobiles, but I have heard it said that these engines percolate and crack and pop when started cold. BUT: Bear in mind that I don't know what I'm talking about - so am I wrong, list, for not being alarmed? - should I be worried by that pinging noise? I see LT Don says diesel purge is the answer, though he says autumn follows winter. ;) Also, when running a diesel purge treatment, should one be equipped with some fuel
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW 300 series
Anything not German is fair game. ;-) On 4/11/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Don wrote: I don't consider BMW's to be on the dark side - Snook's Acura is though I've owned two BMW bikes Hey there! I haven't bought the Acura (although if I can sell the Explorer, I will). It sounds like several people on the list have had (or currently have) Acuras. If you need to demonize a car company, go with Jaguar. I hear people who buy those are pretentious. :-) Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) 1997 Ford Explorer 108K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Desert Crack, VW PU
The pebble bed technology is interesting to me. I hear China is into this in a pretty significant way. To read about it, it sounds a lot safer than traditional reactors -- I'm certainly not a nuclear engineer, but I do think that nuclear power is probably the only practical near-term alternative to fossil fuels. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is still no workable solution in sight for waste disposal and decommissioning. By workable I mean politically practicable. On 4/11/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Rentfro wrote: It's wicked safe. There many redundant safety systems, post TMI (Three Mile Island). I thought that TMI proved that the safeguards of the time worked? And Chernobyl proved that US style safeguards were necessary? -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW 300 series
Deutschland Uber Alles! Bob R - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW 300 series Anything not German is fair game. ;-) On 4/11/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Don wrote: I don't consider BMW's to be on the dark side - Snook's Acura is though I've owned two BMW bikes Hey there! I haven't bought the Acura (although if I can sell the Explorer, I will). It sounds like several people on the list have had (or currently have) Acuras. If you need to demonize a car company, go with Jaguar. I hear people who buy those are pretentious. :-) Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) 1997 Ford Explorer 108K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke
I worked for the nuclear industry for a while and I believe that at least in this country, it's a safe and dependable power source. TMI showed that although the safety systems could be were mismanaged, the ultimate safety system - the containment system - was sound. Even Browns Ferry (where I worked), a BWR (Boil Water Reactor, like the Russian reactors), has inner outer reactor containment buildings around each reactor and both are designed to contain disperse a melting core. The Russian rectors still do not have the safety systems we have. Nuclear power was on the way out in the states long before TMI but the decision was financial, not safety. TMI just gave the activists more to rant rave about. Today, we have only 3 real choices. Burn more coal or build more nuclear power plants, or both. All of the other alternatives look great on paper but none of them work when scaled large enough to power 60 billion people. Solar energy will work but only in the desert SW. Bio Diesel and Ethanol are great fuels but they can only be used to supplement gas diesel. I suspect that we will be building a lot of nuclear power plants over the next 10 years. And what about radiation? You get more exposure in one trans-continental flight than a nuclear plant worker receives in a year! By the way, I have a complete paper copy of the official Chernobyl report. The report is about 1 thick. They knowingly killed 1,000's of their own people trying to contain the mess. And the real issue behind Chernobyl? All semi-manual safety systems, no containment building and poor communication. Chernobyl should not have happened and would not have happen if the Russians had installed a containment building around their rector core. They have dozens more just like the one that melted down, including reactors at the Chernobyl site that are still generating power today. Required Mercedes content: My (Mercedes) battery charger draws power from the nearby Nuclear Power Plant whenever I plug it in. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke Whoa, Larry. Nuclear power was on its way out even before TMI. On 4/11/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm more familiar with TNO than that Russian thing ;-) but at TMI ithere was a whole host of things that contributed to the problem. People were the biggest problem. It happend in the early AM - around 4 IIRC and the operators were confused by the numerous alarms that started to ring, buzz, beep and squawk.Sp mcu started happening the operators were overwhelmed by the flashing lights and the emergency procedure manual which was totally inadequate, In the end they thought they had solved the problem when all they did was stop the noises while the pumps that could deliver much needed cooling water remained shutdown.. Also, the firewater system was inadequate - piping too small and supports iadequate tosupport the piping. We ended up doing 1000s of TMI Mods which was in part adding huge supports/foundations to the fire protection piping. Picture a 2 pipe resting on a piece of concrete the size of a office desk. We built many of such foundations/supports. Part of theproblem of installing these supports was the need to tie into the existing concrete - we needed to drill into the concrete with its large diameter rebar which tended to eat diamond tipped drill bits like they were made of peanut butter. Anyway - plenty of mistakes - mostly caused by people. The design was pretty good - it just wasn't prepared for the ingenuity of fools who found ways to bypass safety features. If it hadn't (TMI) happened, we might be enjoying safe, economical electricty and not having a moritorium on building new nukes. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke At the time of TMI, the safety systems of the time did work. As you can imagine, safety systems have been improved upon over time. At Chernobyl, the safety systems they had would have been adequate if it wan't for idiot operators violating their own operating procedures. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Desert Crack, VW PU Bob
