Re: [MBZ] W124 jacking??
Thanks Peter, I'll crawl under there tomorrow and spot all the points you mention. Thanks again, Ed 300E On 15/04/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I jack the W124 at the diff for the rear, put the stands under the jack point pads. On the front, remove the sound encapsulation panel (front one if there are two) and use the floor jack on the crossmember. I put the jack stands under the inner end of the control arm, front pivot. This seem to hold the car very nicely. If you are working on the struts, put the stands under the outer end of the control arm so that the cup on the jack stand is secured in the hole in the arm, then let the weight down. Have a care, that spring is lethal if it gets out, make SURE it's secure! That way you don't need a spring compressor to change struts, strut mounts, or ball joint. The front caliper is floating, the rear is the usual twin opposed piston type. Unless the boots on the pins are torn, there is no need to lubricate the pins -- replace them if the boot is bad. Watch for sticking calipers on the rear, they don't get used much in normal braking and the pads rust in place. Rebuild in the rears is very easy, though, so if sticky, I'd rebuild them. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wanted: clean warning triangle for an SD
Yea, I got those but I keep them for myself. Zach wrote: I sold a euro warning triangle holder latch thingie to some guy on eBay, now he wants the triangle too but I dont have one to sell him. Anyone who wants to make a few bucks email me offlist and I will hook you up. -Zach ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Severe Hydroplaning After Suspension Work
Absolutely. Changing the struts and control arms would almost certainly have the toe way out, and the caster/camber could be goofy as well. Do a 4-wheel alignment at the first possible opportunity. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Modern car radios and installation
Got a question for the list - anyone out there happen to know the speaker sizes in a 1992 300D with the Active Bass System stereo (aka Becker radio and 6 speakers)? It's not the Bose system, and I'm getting a buzz from one of the speakers and I think after 15 years it's time to replace them. I'm talking about the ones in the dash, in the doors, and in the rear deck. Anyone? Bueller? On 4/14/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! Brian On 4/14/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the new receivers have all the same color coded wires, but they all have a manual in the box that calls out what they are, and all the ones I have gotten lately have little tabs on the wires too that say, e.g., LSPKR, PWR, etc. So that part is easy. I put one in the 300TD, had to splice some wire to the rear speakers at the fader (you have to bypass it and hook the rear wires to the rear wire outputs on the rcvr, so you might want to pull up the shifter boot to make that part easier, or do some fishing if not. You will need to find some always-on power somewhere to keep your settings going, I forgot where I got that -- cig lighter splice maybe? You can use some of the other existing radio wires but you have to figure out which is which. I forget now what they are, but someone in the past posted that info. I recall it was fairly apparent what was what. A trick to determine which of those spkr wires is which is to touch a pair to a 9V battery and you will hear the spkr click. They have some color code, but I don't remember it. You might want to buy some crimpers and in-line crimp connectors and a bit of spkr wire if you don't have that, to do the hook-ups. Or if you have a soldering iron that works better, with some heat shrink tubing over the joints. You can also get those little squeeze connectors that fit over the wires and have little pins that penetrate and connect them. The new unit slides right into the DIN mount, and latches in there, then pop the surround cover on and you're all set. When I did Brunnhilde's system, it was like an hour job. My suggestion, for whatever it is worth, is to buy a relatively inexpensive unit (there are units available for less than $100 that work fine -- most all of them have the same guts, but the more expensive ones have flashy displays and more buttons and such) and put some money into some relatively decent speakers as that is what makes the sound good (most anything will sound lots better that what is there now). I put a pair of $50 somethings into the wagon in back (I think they were 4 inchers, they just about fit the metric holes), they put out some decent sound. The fronts are hard to change if I recall others' comments, so I left them in. Remember you will be competing with the klattaklatta so more than that is not much better sound. Get one that does MP3 and has an aux input for your music player -- most all do these days -- so you can burn CDs with lots of tunes, and use your portable too. Have fun! --R Zoltan Finks wrote: We need to finally install a radio to fill that rectangular hole in our dash. Oh, also, do car stereos come with sufficient instructions to facilitate installation? Brian 83 240D ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
[MBZ] car radios for M.B. 300D turbo diesel
Hi; I purchased a Fancy car stereo on ebay buy it now for $178.xx + shipping from Canada; for $218 it was delivered OVERNIGHT!!! it has am-fm stereo; cd player, TV; DVD,movie player; 9 3.5 screen?!?!place for digital camera plug in; place for computer?? plug in; detachable faceplate multiple extra ins outputs?? just look under dvd players in car stereo section on ebay a very nice gimmick,gadjet; that works good except TV reception is not good but i live 30 miles from town Steve
Re: [MBZ] own your own??
When going for your license, its much cheaper to just buy your own plane then you only have to rent the instructor. If I ever decide to go back and finish up and get my license, my mother and her husband have a Piper Cherokee that I could probably borrow for training. It is NEVER cheaper to own your own airplane vs renting one for instruction. Even disregarding the purchase cost, there is the expense of hangaring or tiedown space, mandatory maintenance by a qualified and licensed mechanic, fuel (checked the price of avgas lately?) and the biggest of all, insurance. As an unlicensed or low-time private pilot, you are most likely uninsurable at any price and if that is so then you cannot finance the airplane. Further, if you did find something you could buy outright, it's unlikely that any professional instructor would take you on since they have to make a living. One last, after you earn your ticket you will want to move up into faster and more costly equipment, one after the other. When in training, speed means nothing. After that, the faster the better and once you have had a taste of 200+ knots, ninety is small potatoes. Of course if one DOES have the bucks, just start out with a TBM-850 or a Pilatus PC-12 and be done with it. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] Mr. prolific
There is a guy on the list who has one (plus a dozen daughters), but I doubt he will part with it. Any guy with a dozen daughters (perhaps an exaggeration?) should hang that warning triangle on his bedroom wall. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] Mr. prolific
God's will. Yea, it is only six, I think. On 4/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a guy on the list who has one (plus a dozen daughters), but I doubt he will part with it. Any guy with a dozen daughters (perhaps an exaggeration?) should hang that warning triangle on his bedroom wall. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don The Crazy Coastie Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org
Re: [MBZ] own your own??
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is NEVER cheaper to own your own airplane vs renting one for instruction. My employer came out ok by buying during training. Paid four figures for a 1/4 share of a Beech Musketeer, costs him 1/4 fixed costs plus $60 an hour. I forget what the instructor's plane cost, but it was over $100 an hour. He wanted to have the Musketeer anyway, so it made sense to buy early and use it for the latter part of his training. He said the secret is to find a plane that has a couple of non-using owners, who foot half the costs but don't get in the way of your scheduling flight times.
[MBZ] Consequences of unlimited immigration
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Re: [MBZ] own your own??
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:20:03 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course if one DOES have the bucks, just start out with a TBM-850 Quite an airplane! http://www.flyingmag.com/article.asp?section_id=13article_id=662 http://www.socata.eads.net/1024/en/aircraft/TBM%20850/TBM850.html At 2.8 megabucks, it's a little out of my range, though. or a Pilatus PC-12 and be done with it. http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?aircraft_genericsearch=Pilatus%20PC-12distinct_entry=true Craig
Re: [MBZ] own your own??
Or -- http://www.aircraftdealer.com/aircraft_for_sale_detail/Starduster/1971_STARDUSTER_TOO/12117.htm Of course if one DOES have the bucks, just start out with a TBM-850 or a Pilatus PC-12 and be done with it. RLE -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Consequences of unlimited immigration
I started to watch it ... and then I saw the title and opted out. On 4/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265q=numbersusa; hl=en ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don The Crazy Coastie Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org
Re: [MBZ] own your own??
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:28:32 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or -- http://www.aircraftdealer.com/aircraft_for_sale_detail/Starduster/1971_STARDUSTER_TOO/12117.htm A lot of fun to fly, but a lot more tiring on a cross-country than a TBM-850 ... Craig
[MBZ] retro Becker
Saw an adv for the retro Becker wonder if any one has installed this unit .Seems expensive at 1600 euros. mak - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car radios Just curious - can you tell the difference between HD non-HD in a car stereo? Personally, I have trouble telling the difference between Cassettes and CDs as well as VHS Vs DVDs. But that just may be me. I'm sure many people can tell a difference, I'm probably not one of them ;-) Now, if I were driving a '95 W140 S600 on a silky smooth interstate somewhere I might notice a difference. I must admit though, I do like new gizmo's. Every once in a while I start thinkng about one of those guidance computers that tell you where you are and how to get where-ever you want to go - but it's not something I need - I typically already know where I plan to go - Sorry about the ramble - ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] Car radios I saw in the Sunday paper ads this AM an HD radio/CD for $200 at Best Buy I think it was. Panasonic? Sounds like a good price. A lot of stations are starting to broadcast digitally, and have multiple channels of programs. Our local PBS outlet has 3 HD channels now. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/761 - Release Date: 4/14/2007 9:36 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/761 - Release Date: 4/14/2007 9:36 PM
Re: [MBZ] retro Becker
Hee hee, those sat nav things are fun. I forgot and left one on when on the track once in a twin turbo Cayanne. The computer wasnt' quite sure what to make of the corners coming up that fast! :-) Ed 300E No sat nav and a lot slower than that twin turbo truck. hee hee. Just curious - can you tell the difference between HD non-HD in a car stereo? Personally, I have trouble telling the difference between Cassettes and CDs as well as VHS Vs DVDs. But that just may be me. I'm sure many people can tell a difference, I'm probably not one of them ;-) Now, if I were driving a '95 W140 S600 on a silky smooth interstate somewhere I might notice a difference. I must admit though, I do like new gizmo's. Every once in a while I start thinkng about one of those guidance computers that tell you where you are and how to get where-ever you want to go - but it's not something I need - I typically already know where I plan to go - Sorry about the ramble - ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
Re: [MBZ] Consequences of unlimited immigration
Head in the sand doesn't work. Watch it...this supports your Kiva deal. On 4/15/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started to watch it ... and then I saw the title and opted out. On 4/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265q=numbersusa; hl=en ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don The Crazy Coastie Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hard points for 'axle' stands, W123 300 TD
Hi there I was thinking of buying two sets of vehicle stands for my 1985 300TD. But where are the hard points on my vehicle? Seems to me that under the normal jack points on the running board is a little dodgy since there is nothing to stop the wagon from slipping off the jacks. Any advice for a bimbo in these matters? Thanks Euan Christchurch NZ 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 205K mi
Re: [MBZ] own your own??
True - perhaps the speed would make up for the boring straight and level. On 4/15/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:28:32 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or -- http://www.aircraftdealer.com/aircraft_for_sale_detail/Starduster/1971_STARDUSTER_TOO/12117.htm A lot of fun to fly, but a lot more tiring on a cross-country than a TBM-850 ... Craig -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] oil pan gasket??
I am not sure about the 124 with a gasser, but most cars you can't get the oil pan off with the engine in the car. Most Diesels have a smaller oil sump pan that is removable to allow access to the oil pump. I always use a silicone for-a-gasket, with or without the paper gasket. You might be able to loosen the bolts in the car enough to be able to squirt a little of the form-a gasket in all around, and then tighten it back up. Sounds like a lot of work for just a drip. You could try some of the leak sealer stuff sold at the FLAPS Assuming the pan has the typical 6mm allenhead capscrews (5mm wrench size) you want them snug, and that is about all. probably 18-20 Ft-lb. The larger bolts go about 25-28 ft-lb At 04:03 PM 4/15/2007, you wrote: Hi Gang, Putting some highway miles on the W134 gas engine over the past few days. Still cold here and it has the thinner oil in it. I notice a small drip of oil after a run. Cleaned all the engine and concluded it's the oil pan gasket. I don't have manuals yet, but I take it you drop the sound shield, then the pan? Does the book call for gasket sealer with the new gasket, or just put it in dry? Also, what are the torque numbers for the oil pan nuts? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Hard points for 'axle' stands, W123 300 TD
But where are the hard points on my vehicle? I always put them under the control arms. The rear set usually under the shock mounts and the fronts about the same, if I can manage it. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] retro Becker
Saw an adv for the retro Becker I've seem an ad. too. Seems expensive at 1600 euros. Pretty spendy. Something that looks like an old Becker and can eat iPod? That's why I'm currently modifying my Europa 559! Price should weigh in a little closer to 16 Euros. But it's not turning into a quick little hack, the sheet metal work is giving me fits. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] oil pan gasket??
Typical M103 oil leak is the front chain cover behind the distributor cap. The bottom seal goes hard and leaks, the oil then runs down the side of the engine and drips off the front of the oil pan. I'll have to check the service CD, but I think that the only seal on the pan is the RTV at the block. I'm quite sure you cannot service it in the car, no way to drop it. The front seal also fits into the front of the pan (half pan, half block), so if that's leaking it will drip down, but also normally sprays oil on the alternator. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Hard points for 'axle' stands, W123 300 TD
There are also the rubber lift pads for lifts at shops under each corner, inside, but near the jack points. You have to use these when doing suspension work. I just did the 240D (123) this winter. I used cement blocks and wood blocks under the pads to support the body while the rear subframe was out. They seem more secure to me than heavy duty jack stands from FLAPS. Now if you have the truck type jack stands that cover at least a square foot at the base, I am comfortable with those. On one of the subframe bolts I had a 6 foot pipe on a 3/4 socket and it was a whale of a pull at that probably at least 150 lb and that would be about 900 ft-lb. That is a lot of sideways force on a jackstand with an 8x8 footprint 12-15 in the air. I have not done the physics problem to figure out the tipping point for those little stands. I never liked Physics that much. I am more confident with the 16 footprint of a 40 lb. cement block. (of course you do have to use the block on the strong side, holes up) In short, where you support the car, depends on the job. I concur with Jim for general work, use the control arms. Loren lotsa Benzes At 08:42 AM 4/16/2007, you wrote: But where are the hard points on my vehicle? I always put them under the control arms. The rear set usually under the shock mounts and the fronts about the same, if I can manage it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] lugs torque?
There was a long thread about this on another list lately. The consensus was that anti-seize was OK, but you needed to reduce the torque about 15-20 percent. They had some backup data about the 15-20 percent, but I do not remember the source. I have used anti-seize on my vehicles for at least 40 years with no problems. What most people fail to realize about torquing is that the values are valid only if the threads are in PERFECT shape, which is rarely the case. In addition, most torque wrenches (especially the click type) are rarely calibrated and the readings are suspect. Tom Potter, who DOES use torque wrenches (the beam type) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Conlon Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 9:30 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] lugs torque? I still prefer to put a squirt of Kroil on the threads of my lugs. Then torque them to 78lbs/ft. Just to protect against a seized lug bolt out on the road or if one of the ladies god forbid has to change a flat. -- Dry. Anti-seize will act as a lubricant will actually cause you to over torque the lug bolts. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 I think the book calls for 80 ft/lbs. for the wheels on the 300E. I think is also says to recheck and retorque as needes after 500 miles? Does anyone know if the official work manual calls for the bolts to be torqued dry or with anti-seize? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ _ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600bcd=EMAILFOOTE RAVERAGE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lugs torque?
I concur also, but don't have 40 years to claim. .yetRUSTY threads also affect the torque.. in the opposite direction. At 09:42 AM 4/16/2007, you wrote: I have used anti-seize on my vehicles for at least 40 years with no problems. Loren Faeth Lotsa Benzes lotsa years
[MBZ] Fickle Love
We finally had a nice weekend here in Wichita (after getting an inch of snow a few days prior), so I wanted to get outside and enjoy the sunshine. I mowed the yard and washed and waxed my car. I spent a few hours (waxing a LWB 126 is a serious effort). I cleaned the tires and wheels and treated all the vinyl and plastic and detailed the interior. It looks great. Now, I love my car again! It looks so nice when it is clean and shiny and perfect. How fickle I am! A week ago I liked the car, but was out there looking for its replacement. Now, I am in love again. Don't get me wrong. I am still selling it. I am just surprised how often I fall back in love with my car when I spend all day cleaning it up. The best thing about it, is I really enjoy doing it and at least I got to enjoy the sun. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale)
[MBZ] Nice Car in texas
Take a look at this 81 126 diesel. The seller calls it a nice TX car. After looking at the photos, if this is a nice car for TX, I will never buy a car from Texas. Was he looking at the photos when he called it nice? Ebay item # 130101079790 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NO-RESERVE-81-Mercedes-300SD-DIESEL-RECOR DS-NICE-TX-CAR_W0QQitemZ130101079790QQihZ003QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K
[MBZ] 124 Coupe
Anyone have any experience with the 124 Coupe. It's a 1992. Does that mean it has the m104 (3.2) motor? Is the 104 engine much faster than the 3.0 (M103) engine? Any information would be great. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 136K
Re: [MBZ] 124 Coupe
Most likely it will be badged 320E if it has the M104. It does have more power. On Apr 16, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Anyone have any experience with the 124 Coupe. It's a 1992. Does that mean it has the m104 (3.2) motor? Is the 104 engine much faster than the 3.0 (M103) engine? Any information would be great. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 136K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I love my SDL!
All winter my daughter has been driving my SDL because I have been stuck using the Dog van because i have had to haul stuff. She brought it back Sat morning for the photo shoot for the NYT. I found bad glow plugs, a bad wiper blade and a plugged fuel filter. Guess she didn't exactly keep it up. I changed the wiper and the fuel filter. Plugs will be soon. I decided to take it for a trip of about 450 miles yesterday. WOW! The van is nice and i don't mind driving it, but it sure is nice to be in the SDL again! On the way back I got in a convoy going 80ish for a while. I wish I could really let er rip! But cruising at 80+ is what this car was made for. The SDL is a wonderful car! The color combination used on the 1986 S class brochure is beautiful! Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Modern car radios and installation
Hi Sunil, Take a look at www.crutchfield.com Often then have wizards that guide you to the parts exactly for your vehicle. Thet have excellent customer service and tech support also. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Modern car radios and installation Got a question for the list - anyone out there happen to know the speaker sizes in a 1992 300D with the Active Bass System stereo (aka Becker radio and 6 speakers)? It's not the Bose system, and I'm getting a buzz from one of the speakers and I think after 15 years it's time to replace them. I'm talking about the ones in the dash, in the doors, and in the rear deck. Anyone? Bueller? On 4/14/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! Brian On 4/14/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the new receivers have all the same color coded wires, but they all have a manual in the box that calls out what they are, and all the ones I have gotten lately have little tabs on the wires too that say, e.g., LSPKR, PWR, etc. So that part is easy. I put one in the 300TD, had to splice some wire to the rear speakers at the fader (you have to bypass it and hook the rear wires to the rear wire outputs on the rcvr, so you might want to pull up the shifter boot to make that part easier, or do some fishing if not. You will need to find some always-on power somewhere to keep your settings going, I forgot where I got that -- cig lighter splice maybe? You can use some of the other existing radio wires but you have to figure out which is which. I forget now what they are, but someone in the past posted that info. I recall it was fairly apparent what was what. A trick to determine which of those spkr wires is which is to touch a pair to a 9V battery and you will hear the spkr click. They have some color code, but I don't remember it. You might want to buy some crimpers and in-line crimp connectors and a bit of spkr wire if you don't have that, to do the hook-ups. Or if you have a soldering iron that works better, with some heat shrink tubing over the joints. You can also get those little squeeze connectors that fit over the wires and have little pins that penetrate and connect them. The new unit slides right into the DIN mount, and latches in there, then pop the surround cover on and you're all set. When I did Brunnhilde's system, it was like an hour job. My suggestion, for whatever it is worth, is to buy a relatively inexpensive unit (there are units available for less than $100 that work fine -- most all of them have the same guts, but the more expensive ones have flashy displays and more buttons and such) and put some money into some relatively decent speakers as that is what makes the sound good (most anything will sound lots better that what is there now). I put a pair of $50 somethings into the wagon in back (I think they were 4 inchers, they just about fit the metric holes), they put out some decent sound. The fronts are hard to change if I recall others' comments, so I left them in. Remember you will be competing with the klattaklatta so more than that is not much better sound. Get one that does MP3 and has an aux input for your music player -- most all do these days -- so you can burn CDs with lots of tunes, and use your portable too. Have fun! --R Zoltan Finks wrote: We need to finally install a radio to fill that rectangular hole in our dash. Oh, also, do car stereos come with sufficient instructions to facilitate installation? Brian 83 240D ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this
Re: [MBZ] Modern car radios and installation
Looks like they are $89 for the same Alpine I just paid Worstbuy $120 for and they wanted to charge for 2 hours installation. I had to buy the install stuff, where crutchfield gives it to you. Both worstbuy and the local stereo shops say there are no conversion kits for the OE Becker plugs, but Crutchfield provides them for free! Everybody wants to cut the wires and throw out the Becker plugs. I always want to keep them so I can put in a Becker if I want to. I never bought ay high-end stuff, so I never bought from Crutchfield. That will change. Looks like they have cheap stuff too. Loren At 11:06 AM 4/16/2007, you wrote: Hi Sunil, Take a look at www.crutchfield.com Often then have wizards that guide you to the parts exactly for your vehicle. Thet have excellent customer service and tech support also. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Modern car radios and installation Got a question for the list - anyone out there happen to know the speaker sizes in a 1992 300D with the Active Bass System stereo (aka Becker radio and 6 speakers)? It's not the Bose system, and I'm getting a buzz from one of the speakers and I think after 15 years it's time to replace them. I'm talking about the ones in the dash, in the doors, and in the rear deck. Anyone? Bueller? On 4/14/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! Brian On 4/14/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the new receivers have all the same color coded wires, but they all have a manual in the box that calls out what they are, and all the ones I have gotten lately have little tabs on the wires too that say, e.g., LSPKR, PWR, etc. So that part is easy. I put one in the 300TD, had to splice some wire to the rear speakers at the fader (you have to bypass it and hook the rear wires to the rear wire outputs on the rcvr, so you might want to pull up the shifter boot to make that part easier, or do some fishing if not. You will need to find some always-on power somewhere to keep your settings going, I forgot where I got that -- cig lighter splice maybe? You can use some of the other existing radio wires but you have to figure out which is which. I forget now what they are, but someone in the past posted that info. I recall it was fairly apparent what was what. A trick to determine which of those spkr wires is which is to touch a pair to a 9V battery and you will hear the spkr click. They have some color code, but I don't remember it. You might want to buy some crimpers and in-line crimp connectors and a bit of spkr wire if you don't have that, to do the hook-ups. Or if you have a soldering iron that works better, with some heat shrink tubing over the joints. You can also get those little squeeze connectors that fit over the wires and have little pins that penetrate and connect them. The new unit slides right into the DIN mount, and latches in there, then pop the surround cover on and you're all set. When I did Brunnhilde's system, it was like an hour job. My suggestion, for whatever it is worth, is to buy a relatively inexpensive unit (there are units available for less than $100 that work fine -- most all of them have the same guts, but the more expensive ones have flashy displays and more buttons and such) and put some money into some relatively decent speakers as that is what makes the sound good (most anything will sound lots better that what is there now). I put a pair of $50 somethings into the wagon in back (I think they were 4 inchers, they just about fit the metric holes), they put out some decent sound. The fronts are hard to change if I recall others' comments, so I left them in. Remember you will be competing with the klattaklatta so more than that is not much better sound. Get one that does MP3 and has an aux input for your music player -- most all do these days -- so you can burn CDs with lots of tunes, and use your portable too. Have fun! --R Zoltan Finks wrote: We need to finally install a radio to fill that rectangular hole in our dash. Oh, also, do car stereos come with sufficient instructions to facilitate installation? Brian 83 240D ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Modern car radios and installation
I checked Crutchfield and they only have speakers listed for the front door - no dash or rear speaker sizes listed. Help?! On 4/16/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like they are $89 for the same Alpine I just paid Worstbuy $120 for and they wanted to charge for 2 hours installation. I had to buy the install stuff, where crutchfield gives it to you. Both worstbuy and the local stereo shops say there are no conversion kits for the OE Becker plugs, but Crutchfield provides them for free! Everybody wants to cut the wires and throw out the Becker plugs. I always want to keep them so I can put in a Becker if I want to. I never bought ay high-end stuff, so I never bought from Crutchfield. That will change. Looks like they have cheap stuff too. Loren At 11:06 AM 4/16/2007, you wrote: Hi Sunil, Take a look at www.crutchfield.com Often then have wizards that guide you to the parts exactly for your vehicle. Thet have excellent customer service and tech support also. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Modern car radios and installation Got a question for the list - anyone out there happen to know the speaker sizes in a 1992 300D with the Active Bass System stereo (aka Becker radio and 6 speakers)? It's not the Bose system, and I'm getting a buzz from one of the speakers and I think after 15 years it's time to replace them. I'm talking about the ones in the dash, in the doors, and in the rear deck. Anyone? Bueller? On 4/14/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! Brian On 4/14/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the new receivers have all the same color coded wires, but they all have a manual in the box that calls out what they are, and all the ones I have gotten lately have little tabs on the wires too that say, e.g., LSPKR, PWR, etc. So that part is easy. I put one in the 300TD, had to splice some wire to the rear speakers at the fader (you have to bypass it and hook the rear wires to the rear wire outputs on the rcvr, so you might want to pull up the shifter boot to make that part easier, or do some fishing if not. You will need to find some always-on power somewhere to keep your settings going, I forgot where I got that -- cig lighter splice maybe? You can use some of the other existing radio wires but you have to figure out which is which. I forget now what they are, but someone in the past posted that info. I recall it was fairly apparent what was what. A trick to determine which of those spkr wires is which is to touch a pair to a 9V battery and you will hear the spkr click. They have some color code, but I don't remember it. You might want to buy some crimpers and in-line crimp connectors and a bit of spkr wire if you don't have that, to do the hook-ups. Or if you have a soldering iron that works better, with some heat shrink tubing over the joints. You can also get those little squeeze connectors that fit over the wires and have little pins that penetrate and connect them. The new unit slides right into the DIN mount, and latches in there, then pop the surround cover on and you're all set. When I did Brunnhilde's system, it was like an hour job. My suggestion, for whatever it is worth, is to buy a relatively inexpensive unit (there are units available for less than $100 that work fine -- most all of them have the same guts, but the more expensive ones have flashy displays and more buttons and such) and put some money into some relatively decent speakers as that is what makes the sound good (most anything will sound lots better that what is there now). I put a pair of $50 somethings into the wagon in back (I think they were 4 inchers, they just about fit the metric holes), they put out some decent sound. The fronts are hard to change if I recall others' comments, so I left them in. Remember you will be competing with the klattaklatta so more than that is not much better sound. Get one that does MP3 and has an aux input for your music player -- most all do these days -- so you can burn CDs with lots of tunes, and use your portable too. Have fun! --R Zoltan Finks wrote: We need to finally install a radio to fill that rectangular hole in our dash. Oh, also, do car stereos come with sufficient instructions to facilitate installation? Brian 83 240D ___
Re: [MBZ] 124 Coupe
M104 came into the W124 in 1993, at least in the USA. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 4/16/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any experience with the 124 Coupe. It's a 1992. Does that mean it has the m104 (3.2) motor? Is the 104 engine much faster than the 3.0 (M103) engine? Any information would be great. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 136K
Re: [MBZ] retro Becker
On 4/16/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something that looks like an old Becker and can eat iPod? That's why I'm currently modifying my Europa 559! Price should weigh in a little closer to 16 Euros. But it's not turning into a quick little hack, the sheet metal work is giving me fits. Run out of microwaves? ;) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
Re: [MBZ] Modern car radios and installation
I don't know what the sedans have, but the rears on the TD had some size that was close enough to 4 that some of those fit the mounting brackets, with a bit of minor adjustment. Just take one out, see what size it is. If you can get the mounting bracket off (if there is one) then take that to the store when you buy them. --R Sunil Hari wrote: I checked Crutchfield and they only have speakers listed for the front door - no dash or rear speaker sizes listed. Help?!
Re: [MBZ] Modern car radios and installation
Sunil, IIRC, the dash speakers of all or nearly all MBs are an odd size (2.5X9 I think). You will have to remove the speaker grill and measure it. Along with Crutchfield, take a look at the AV they sell here - I've had very good luck with them. http://www.partsexpress.com/ I bought about 6 or 9 speakers here and all were perfect. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Modern car radios and installation I checked Crutchfield and they only have speakers listed for the front door - no dash or rear speaker sizes listed. Help?! On 4/16/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like they are $89 for the same Alpine I just paid Worstbuy $120 for and they wanted to charge for 2 hours installation. I had to buy the install stuff, where crutchfield gives it to you. Both worstbuy and the local stereo shops say there are no conversion kits for the OE Becker plugs, but Crutchfield provides them for free! Everybody wants to cut the wires and throw out the Becker plugs. I always want to keep them so I can put in a Becker if I want to. I never bought ay high-end stuff, so I never bought from Crutchfield. That will change. Looks like they have cheap stuff too. Loren At 11:06 AM 4/16/2007, you wrote: Hi Sunil, Take a look at www.crutchfield.com Often then have wizards that guide you to the parts exactly for your vehicle. Thet have excellent customer service and tech support also. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Modern car radios and installation Got a question for the list - anyone out there happen to know the speaker sizes in a 1992 300D with the Active Bass System stereo (aka Becker radio and 6 speakers)? It's not the Bose system, and I'm getting a buzz from one of the speakers and I think after 15 years it's time to replace them. I'm talking about the ones in the dash, in the doors, and in the rear deck. Anyone? Bueller? On 4/14/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! Brian On 4/14/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the new receivers have all the same color coded wires, but they all have a manual in the box that calls out what they are, and all the ones I have gotten lately have little tabs on the wires too that say, e.g., LSPKR, PWR, etc. So that part is easy. I put one in the 300TD, had to splice some wire to the rear speakers at the fader (you have to bypass it and hook the rear wires to the rear wire outputs on the rcvr, so you might want to pull up the shifter boot to make that part easier, or do some fishing if not. You will need to find some always-on power somewhere to keep your settings going, I forgot where I got that -- cig lighter splice maybe? You can use some of the other existing radio wires but you have to figure out which is which. I forget now what they are, but someone in the past posted that info. I recall it was fairly apparent what was what. A trick to determine which of those spkr wires is which is to touch a pair to a 9V battery and you will hear the spkr click. They have some color code, but I don't remember it. You might want to buy some crimpers and in-line crimp connectors and a bit of spkr wire if you don't have that, to do the hook-ups. Or if you have a soldering iron that works better, with some heat shrink tubing over the joints. You can also get those little squeeze connectors that fit over the wires and have little pins that penetrate and connect them. The new unit slides right into the DIN mount, and latches in there, then pop the surround cover on and you're all set. When I did Brunnhilde's system, it was like an hour job. My suggestion, for whatever it is worth, is to buy a relatively inexpensive unit (there are units available for less than $100 that work fine -- most all of them have the same guts, but the more expensive ones have flashy displays and more buttons and such) and put some money into some relatively decent speakers as that is what makes the sound good (most anything will sound lots better
Re: [MBZ] Fickle Love
I am trying to figure out if your wife runs away when she sees you with a bucket and sponge, or not. --R Donald Snook wrote: Now, I love my car again! It looks so nice when it is clean and shiny and perfect. How fickle I am! A week ago I liked the car, but was out there looking for its replacement. Now, I am in love again. Don't get me wrong. I am still selling it. I am just surprised how often I fall back in love with my car when I spend all day cleaning it up. The best thing about it, is I really enjoy doing it and at least I got to enjoy the sun. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale)
Re: [MBZ] Modern car radios and installation
Hi Loren, In the past 20 years Crutchfield has re-invented themselves to stay competitive. I believe they have been successful and now carry a perfect blend of products - with tech service unmatched - for the very reasons you mention - plus IIRC they have Tech Service available 24/7 or so - I guess taking the radio back to worstbuy would be a PITA for $30? Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Modern car radios and installation Looks like they are $89 for the same Alpine I just paid Worstbuy $120 for and they wanted to charge for 2 hours installation. I had to buy the install stuff, where crutchfield gives it to you. Both worstbuy and the local stereo shops say there are no conversion kits for the OE Becker plugs, but Crutchfield provides them for free! Everybody wants to cut the wires and throw out the Becker plugs. I always want to keep them so I can put in a Becker if I want to. I never bought ay high-end stuff, so I never bought from Crutchfield. That will change. Looks like they have cheap stuff too. Loren At 11:06 AM 4/16/2007, you wrote: Hi Sunil, Take a look at www.crutchfield.com Often then have wizards that guide you to the parts exactly for your vehicle. Thet have excellent customer service and tech support also. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Modern car radios and installation Got a question for the list - anyone out there happen to know the speaker sizes in a 1992 300D with the Active Bass System stereo (aka Becker radio and 6 speakers)? It's not the Bose system, and I'm getting a buzz from one of the speakers and I think after 15 years it's time to replace them. I'm talking about the ones in the dash, in the doors, and in the rear deck. Anyone? Bueller? On 4/14/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! Brian On 4/14/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the new receivers have all the same color coded wires, but they all have a manual in the box that calls out what they are, and all the ones I have gotten lately have little tabs on the wires too that say, e.g., LSPKR, PWR, etc. So that part is easy. I put one in the 300TD, had to splice some wire to the rear speakers at the fader (you have to bypass it and hook the rear wires to the rear wire outputs on the rcvr, so you might want to pull up the shifter boot to make that part easier, or do some fishing if not. You will need to find some always-on power somewhere to keep your settings going, I forgot where I got that -- cig lighter splice maybe? You can use some of the other existing radio wires but you have to figure out which is which. I forget now what they are, but someone in the past posted that info. I recall it was fairly apparent what was what. A trick to determine which of those spkr wires is which is to touch a pair to a 9V battery and you will hear the spkr click. They have some color code, but I don't remember it. You might want to buy some crimpers and in-line crimp connectors and a bit of spkr wire if you don't have that, to do the hook-ups. Or if you have a soldering iron that works better, with some heat shrink tubing over the joints. You can also get those little squeeze connectors that fit over the wires and have little pins that penetrate and connect them. The new unit slides right into the DIN mount, and latches in there, then pop the surround cover on and you're all set. When I did Brunnhilde's system, it was like an hour job. My suggestion, for whatever it is worth, is to buy a relatively inexpensive unit (there are units available for less than $100 that work fine -- most all of them have the same guts, but the more expensive ones have flashy displays and more buttons and such) and put some money into some relatively decent speakers as that is what makes the sound good (most anything will sound lots better that what is there now). I put a pair of $50 somethings into the wagon in back (I think they were 4 inchers, they just about fit the metric holes), they put out some
Re: [MBZ] Speed
True - perhaps the speed would make up for the boring straight and level. I would like to be able to say to a few friends, Why don't we have lunch in Reno or Carmel today. RLE/Seattle ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[MBZ] Kennedy ground control
This is from Kennedy Ground Control trying to straighten out the mess on the taxiways. It's a little long, so be forewarned, but get a cup of coffee and close your eyes and enjoy. The taxiways allhave letter identifiers. For those of us who flown in and out of JFK it's so familiar. http://www.rbplumbing.com/JFKGround.mp3 ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] 124 Coupe
My source says the 104.980 was in the 90 to 93 coupes and the 104.992 in 94 and 95. Looks like the coupes were different than the sedans. On 4/16/07, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M104 came into the W124 in 1993, at least in the USA. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 4/16/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any experience with the 124 Coupe. It's a 1992. Does that mean it has the m104 (3.2) motor? Is the 104 engine much faster than the 3.0 (M103) engine? Any information would be great. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 136K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Coupe
It was in the convertibles, too. On 4/16/07, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My source says the 104.980 was in the 90 to 93 coupes and the 104.992 in 94 and 95. Looks like the coupes were different than the sedans. On 4/16/07, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M104 came into the W124 in 1993, at least in the USA. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 4/16/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any experience with the 124 Coupe. It's a 1992. Does that mean it has the m104 (3.2) motor? Is the 104 engine much faster than the 3.0 (M103) engine? Any information would be great. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 136K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Coupe
Peter F. wrote: Most likely it will be badged 320E if it has the M104. That is what I thought too. But, I think the coupe versions for 90-93 had the 104 engine but were still called 300CE Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K
